Who Was Nimrod?

[@yigallevin4651]

Very well done! I enjoyed it.

[@InquisitiveBible]

I appreciate the comment, Dr. Levin. I am in debt to your scholarship.

[@norbertjanoscsorba38]

As a Hungarian, Nimrod is told to be the father of all Hungarian speaking people in the world. Our stories that were told generation after generation describe him as a loving father who fathered Hunor and Magor, who were also great hunters. These stories have been told way before we had chance to read the Bible since we became Christians only around 1000 AC. Nimrod as every good person on earth was probably misinterpreted because of the devil. It is crucial that the Bible does not say anything bad about him. God is so almighty, so powerful that if the readers of the Bible should know that Nimrod is evil, then it would have been in the Bible. The only sources describing him as evil is outside the Bible, while in the meantime they dont take into consideration that for example our stories depict him differently. Moreover, his bloodline was Europe's one of the most merciful bloodline of kings in history, starting with Attila and later the house of Arpad in Hungarian history.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks Norbert, that's very interesting. I had no idea that tradition existed among the Hungarian people. I agree that if we were supposed to understand Nimrod as an evil person, the Bible would have said so.

[@norbertjanoscsorba38]

@@InquisitiveBible Very welcome, I am truly convinced that the Lord was leading me on this path to find the truth about Nimrod. The same problem happened to Attila, who was the king of the Huns. Roman tradition described him as a barbarian, even though Attila had mercy on Rome because of God, when he was already under the walls of Rome.

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@WeTheLittlePeople]

Yes, that would make sense as its a biblical story. In a sense yes, it will go from Sumerian (isolate language) / Akkadian (which is where Hebrew, Canaanite, Hititte languages came from). So that would be very near the Black Sea area.

[@shawnjones7809]

2 Questions. 1. Where the origin timelines for each city come from? 2. Why would you separate Nimrod and the cities he founded from Numbia as if the people from Africa stopped at the Red sea and went no farther? Its clearly very plausible and likely for someone from Numbia to walk to the Middle East and farther. Why could Kish and Cush not be the same name just change after the languages were confused?

[@WeTheLittlePeople]

error at (06:20). According to me and GPT : The Sumerian King List provides a clear sequence of cities that held kingship after it "descended from heaven." According to the most widely accepted versions of the list, Eridu was the first city to receive kingship, marking it as the oldest of the Sumerian cities where kingship first began. This is noted in several sources, including the oldest copies of the Sumerian King List, where Eridu is consistently mentioned as the initial seat of kingship. However, after Eridu, the kingship was said to have moved to Kish following the deluge (the great flood).

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment. I thought the context made it clear that I was talking about after the flood, but you are correct about Eridu.

[@Tdiehcsluap]

I love watching these types of KZbin videos.very educational and feeds your brain with real history

[@mondotwistedmojo]

Thank you, these are very informative and well-produced.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks!

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@madProgenitorDeity]

great visuals!

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks!

[@js1423]

Another nice video! Will there be a follow-up to why Nimrod would later be seen as a villain? Does he have a potential connection to Gilgamesh, since both were city-founding hunter-hero-king?

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment. Gilgamesh has been occasionally suggested as inspiration for Nimrod, and there might be some faint echoes, since he was the king of Uruk. Beyond that, it's hard to say without knowing the details of the now-lost Nimrod tale. As for follow-up on Nimrod the villain, I'm not sure. It might work as part of an essay on the development of the Nephilim legends, but I have so many other stories and topics to cover first.

[@js1423]

@@InquisitiveBible Ok. He's been a villain for quite some time already, considering he was damned in Hell within Dante's inferno and there's Alexander Hislop's claims about Nimrod being the father of Tammuz etc.

[@Iamwrongbut]

Soooo gooooood

[@silaskuira9124]

Ive heard of a motif in the city of Nimrud that shows Nimrod versus Sargon pitted against each other and dissing each other as contemporary warlords

[@siegfriedlechler7412]

A very good video... There's more about Nimrod: From the 2nd post-flood king, Nimrud, The first king of the Sumerians and Aryans was Adar = Ukush. Nimrod is described alongside Sargon as a descendant of the 1st king of Sumer, adar = Ukush. This means he may also have been the grandson of Ukush and therefore an Assyrian. His Names are also: Nimrud, Nefrod, Nammurudu, Marad, Tammuz, Muku, Sokar, Bakus, Gan; Priest King of Lagash, A-zag = son of Zag, son of Bel, called Ninus, Dyonisos, Sabazios. So Nimrod was not Bel, but his son. His most important name, however, was Tascio; a derivative of the sun god Tax = Zagg. As the son of the son god, = Zax= Zeus, Nimrod is also given the name Manu. The god Manu is similar to the Manitu of the Indians, the Mannus of the Germanic peoples and the Iman of the Muslims. Afterwards, Nimrod was the son of Zax the deified Manu. Therefore, the land of the son god Zax and his son Nimrod was also the land of Man. Of these, Taman is still found today on the Crimean peninsula. Our word man comes from Nimrod. The Slavs call the Germans Nemetsch, i.e. Nimrod. He ruled from Sumer. His symbol was two coiled snakes, similar to a caduceus with two dragons. The empire of Nimrod originated from Babel and Akkad. The Akkadian creation story says that there was a father and a son who ruled Babel at that time. He established a throne....Another in.... 'Most exalted indeed is the Son....His sovereignty surpasses....May he shepherd the human race." From this you can see that Babel was a unified empire that was led by two rulers. The father was Adar = ukush = Zax and his son was Nimrod. Afterwards Nimrod reigned with his father in Babylon. That was the time when they built the Tower of Babel. He then ruled over Assyria and was Ninus, the first ruler of Assyria. From him, the Nimrodian Akkadian Assyrians in Persia had the name Tazian = Tatschki = Tazik, a derivation of Tascio. He also took over Syria and Asia Minor = Tidnu = Titanu, and was ultimately worshiped alongside his father Adar = Ukush as the sun god, and among the Hurry knights as the god Teshup and among the Phoenicians as the sun god Muku. From Nimrod the river Tigris received its old name: Tetscherem, Tedschera, Ditschet. Derived from this, the Persians called the Nimrodian Assyrians = Tazian = Thazi or Tatschi. 🤠 ​

[@siegfriedlechler7412]

See the time Chronologie of Babylon, Nimrod up to Naram Sin of Assyria here: geschichte-bronzezeit.blogspot.com/2024/07/blog-post.html

[@Dr_Armstrong]

Great vid!

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@Dr_Armstrong]

@@annalee8968 Great Bible knowledge, Anna!

[@stevebeary4988]

Thank you.

[@Logan_Bishop_YT]

2:06 Okay, the list that you have up here depends on at least two assumptions: First, that the cities in the Bible are to be identified with those actual cities, and second, that those dates are accurate. I can already see two problems. First, the city of Babylon was not founded in 1900 BC. It was founded closer to 2300 BC. However, the Amorite dynasty of Babylon was founded in 1894 BC according to the consensus ANE Chronology, so that might be some confusion on your part. I'm not exactly sure if Dur-Sharrukin is to be identified with the city of Resen in the Bible. Can you give me a little bit of evidence to support your identifcation?

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment. It's true that identifying Resen is one of the biggest challenges with this passage. There are a few arguments as to why Dur-Sharrukin, the capital built by Sargon II, is the most likely candidate: 1. The LXX says Dasen, which raises the possibility of a scribal error in the Hebrew. (Daleth and Resh look similar.) If Dasen was the original reading, it could be an abbreviation or variant of Dur-Sharrukin. 2. Resen means “bridle”, and the inscriptions of Sargon II in Dur-Sharrukin speak of putting bridles on the rulers of the ruler of the word; thus, it might be a symbolic name for Dur-Sharrukin. 3. Resen could be the village of Res-ini, which was located next to Dur-Sharrukin. Horowitz (2008) argues that the author was avoiding the name Dur-Sharrukin itself, since “Sharrukin” is actually the name of Sargon, and Nimrod obviously wouldn’t name his city after a later Assyrian king. This seems like the most likely explanation to me. In addition, the text seems to be listing the cities in rough geographical order, so we would expect Resen to be in the vicinity of Nineveh and Calah. So it’s not certain, but the location is correct and there are several plausible linguistic arguments in favor. You are correct that Babylon may have existed a few centuries earlier, but it’s the Assyrian cities that are the problem.

[@shawnjones7809]

Your error is hat you assume that Mesopotamia and its stories came before the oral traditions of the Israelite. I happen to think that the borrowing was the other way around.

[@ayshaahmed8930]

I think Nimrod was sargon of akkad

[@NinjaMatt2201]

I thought the passage read that Nimrod was a decendant of Kush, not son?

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment. The literal reading of Genesis 10:8 is “And Cush begat Nimrod”. I see no particular reason to treat this differently than any of the other biblical genealogies in which fathers “beget” their sons. That said, the important point is that the genealogy of Genesis 10 is, in fact, using individuals to represent historical nations known to the author (you could think of them as “descendant groups” rather than “sons”), but Nimrod is clearly an individual and not a nation, so verses 8 to 12 don't fit the pattern or context of the rest of the genealogy.

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@NinjaMatt2201]

@@annalee8968 I've been learning a lot about translation errors when it comes to English translations of the Bible lately. I'm starting to think I need to learn the original Biblical languages in order to read it properly. Though I'm sure that's not easy. Is there an English Bible with liner notes about translation issues?

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@InquisitiveBible]

I appreciate your participation here, but please don't spam the same comment four times. I've removed the other three and left this one. If I may address your remarks: "In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children." No, that's generally not how nations and geographical regions get their name. "For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. " That's not correct. We don't even know what the ancient people of Nubia (Cush) called themselves. Cush was the *Egyptian* name for Nubia that came into use during the 2nd millennium BC. In earlier texts, they called Nubia Ta-Seti, "the land of the bow". The Bible's genealogies are a schematic list that describes relationships between different lands in the author's own day. They do not describe how countries are actually founded and named.

[@tiffanysampson5946]

BECAUSE Nimrod is a title; nickname...The rebellous one...He could have been a grandson or great grandson of Cush...Ur-Zababa (Theophoric name) named his city after HIMSELF...Is he CUSH? Kish?

[@InquisitiveBible]

There is still the problem that the genealogy is schematic (symbolic). The lands of Cush, Egypt, Canaan, etc. were not actually founded by people with those names. If Nimrod was the nickname of a historical person, it makes sense to try to figure out who in the archaeological record he might have been.

[@joschelei262]

@9:00- 9:16 Rather the truth was copied from their account, then muddled to discredit it. Other accounts of history, including that of India has gone through a continual wave of Iconoclasm. I wonder...Who has always been first to the archaeological dig sites, possessing much access to archival records of empires past. Who cataloged their findings in books, then sought to hide that information from the latter enlightened people, descendants of their past colonial conquests.? That's right folks....Esau. Idumea. Edom....The Bible is legit.

[@NicholasChorba]

"Nimrod" is a mistranslation. It's supposed to be a verb for Cush to lead a rebellion, and Cush existed. The whole world were gathered at Babel for the tower incident, that's why Cush was there. After God scattered everyone, he ended up in Africa. Asher went out of Babel to establish the Assyrian cities, not anyone else.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment, Nicholas. A few problems I see with that proposal. (1) [Edited] When it says Cush begat Nimrod, how do you interpret that as "leading a rebellion"? That expression refers to parentage in genealogies. (2) Micah 5.6 calls Assyria the "land of Nimrod", implying that there was a widespread Hebrew tradition of an Assyrian king or dynasty known by the name Nimrod.

[@NicholasChorba]

​@@InquisitiveBibleI'm making a statement, that "Cush did exist". That has nothing to do with the text at hand. It has to do with you pointing out the lack of evidence that Nimrod existed.

[@InquisitiveBible]

I see. To be clear, I think the Nimrod legend is about a real king (probably Sargon or Naram-Sin). But where the name Nimrod comes from is unclear, since it doesn't appear in any ancient king lists or inscriptions. The possibility that the author of Genesis intends a play on the Hebrew word for "rebel" is interesting, but it's far from certain. On the topic of Cush, I think the genealogy of Genesis 10 has to be understood as a *schematic* genealogy. It's a kind of "mind map" used by the Bible to explain the relationships between different nations. It's hard to argue, for example, that "Mizraim" (Egypt) in Gen. 10.6 is meant to represent a historical person, since it's a Hebrew word that means "the two lands". (Dynastic Egypt was the union of two kingdoms: Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt.) No historical person was ever named Mizraim. Furthermore, the Egyptians called their country "Kemet", a name derived from the black soil along the Nile.

[@NicholasChorba]

Regarding what I said, I'm just parroting something from video I watched within the past 24 hours. The guy did a breakdown of the Hebrew that showed the word "Nimrod" being used as a verb encouraging rebellion. So in context, Cush is the mighty hunter and is telling everyone to rebel against God. But, I strongly suspect Micah 5:6 is the reason why the Genesis passages are not translated that way. Thank you for bringing it up. However, I do wonder if there is another way to translate the Micah passage to use the word "Nimrod" as "the land of rebellion".

[@InquisitiveBible]

Yeah, as I understand it, m-r-d is a Hebrew verb meaning to rebel. Within the grammar of Genesis 10 and Micah 5:6, Nimrod is clearly a name, but Genesis is full of deliberate puns and this might be one of them. The late professor Nahum Sarna in his commentary on Genesis suggested that Nimrod might be a deliberate distortion of Naram-Sin to evoke m-r-d. My biggest objection is that Genesis 10 seems to describe Nimrod positively when it calls him "a mighty hunter before Yahweh."

[@tiffanysampson5946]

mighty hunter AGAINST YHWH not before...His nickname implies he was a negative figure. Yes he was viewed by later generations as a hero but to the people then he was a tyrant...like those today that opress the people & control all of their lives...they lived in constant fear.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for the comment. I've addressed this in another comment reply already, but the vast majority of Hebrew scholars (basically all of them) think "before" is the correct translation. According to Speiser (Anchor Yale commentary), the phrase “before Yahweh” means “with Yahweh’s approval.” The same expression “before [someone]” carries that meaning in Gen. 17:18, 27:7, and 43:33. He translates the sentence as “Nimrod was a mighty hunter by the will of Yahweh.” Psalm 96:13 “Let all creation rejoice before Yahweh” is another example of the same Hebrew words having a positive meaning. Most commentaries don’t elaborate on the meaning of “before Yahweh.” Ronald Hendel in a paper titled “God and the Gods in the Tetrateuch” says that the expression “seems to present YHWH as the patron god of Babylonia and Assyria.” Interpreting “before” to have the meaning of “against” apparently goes back to Augustine, who was quite influential on other early Christian writers. However, Ephrem the Syrian and John Chrysostom interpreted it positively, so both interpretations can be found in Christian tradition. However, I cannot find a single modern scholar who thinks "against" is the correct reading.

[@johnrichardson7310]

What if nimrod was man who the forefather of a race people who would rule and found the city's and empires overtime. A example would like romuls and remius whom found rome. As dido of the city of Carthage is another example.

[@mikeyohanna1197]

Nimrod... A black man of Cush.. King of the world 🌎

[@annalee8968]

In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@AzadQaraman]

Nimrod was an emperor, his empire had located in a location which is Kurdistan now, the name of Nimrod means (undead or undying) in Kurdish it is ( nemrdu نەمردو) even in Latin it is (inmortui), he had unbelievable power and unbelievable science, and he was very bad king,God had sent prophet Abraham to him, no media and no historical organization tell about him because if they do, they introduce Kurdistan, and no government wants do that especially Turkey and Iran, because they rape and steal kurd's history and land to themselves. Mesopotamia is Kurdistan Nothing changes that there's no Arabs and Turks 3000 years ago, and Sumerians ara kurds.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thank you for the comment. The Kurds are a brave and resilient people!

[@annalee8968]

Thank you. Nimrod was might hunter before the Alford but he rebelled Against God. In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@WeTheLittlePeople]

Unfortunately the entire premise of this video is so bad and so wrong its juvenile. Yes, Nimrod was real, and yes it translates directly into Sumerian from Hebrew. And yes, it points to the real temple builder of the real tower of babel.

[@InquisitiveBible]

Thanks for stopping by. By "real tower of babel", are you asserting that the world's entire population lived in Babylon speaking a single language until around 2240 BC?

[@annalee8968]

Thank you. In ancient time when a leader conquers the region, they Named after themselves or their children. Prior to the towel of babel everyone Spoke one language, after the towel of Babel, people spread to different regions with different languages. When They spread, people named the regions after their names. For example, when Cushites spread to African countries they named Cush in Africa. Not exclusively, But Many of Ham’s Settled in Africa or Canaan. In terms years, so called have been wrong About dates.

[@brianwimsatt-b9h]

NIMROD WAS AND IS HORUS THE ONLY KING OF BABYLON.