Who were the Picts - and Where did they Come From?

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Who were the Picts, and where on earth did they come from? Find out in the third instalment of the Ancient Culture Analaysis: The Picts.
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Sources used:
Picts - Anna Ritchie
A New History of the Picts - Stuart McHardy
Pictish Warrior - Paul Wagner
The Historical Atlas of the Celtic World - John Haywood
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Lost Frontier - Kevin MacLeod
Dhaka - Kevin MacLeod
Past the Edge - Kevin MacLeod
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@missasinenomine
@missasinenomine 3 жыл бұрын
The Picts were good warriors. They were all hand-pict.
@JasonX00
@JasonX00 3 жыл бұрын
That was really good😅
@roderickbarclay8581
@roderickbarclay8581 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@MEOWLIFE-jh8yd
@MEOWLIFE-jh8yd 3 жыл бұрын
Dude....
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 3 жыл бұрын
Picts are good Warriors... Ross' are the Direct Descendant of the Old Pict Lairds, bra! Pict is for Painted People, Picts never called themselves Picts, that's what Romans did, and now Historians. So if we painted ourselves for battle, because of Germs, and infection was the real killer, it really was, but than we started running around in Kilts (Folded up many times working as Dick Armor, and a Sleeping Bag, or very crappy tent!), and Ross' the old Pict Lairds had sweet armor, and no longer painted ourselves for Battle, we are no longer the same people because the Culture of Painting ourselves went away or eventually the English didn't let us speak our languages or do our Clan Systems so 1000 years later, and than Two Highland Clearances, because I am a Highlander and inside me flows the Blood of Kings, and we know who we are, oh sure maybe a Brown or a Mackenzie as a name means nothing, but the Greatest Clan in Scotland, the Great Clan Ross was Pedigrees mee boi! Like many others, we known who we are, and who you are, A Low Lander! A Pathetic Low Lander! Technically Easter Ross (yes like Game of Thrones, that's were the auther went for inspiration, to Ross-shire, the former Earldom of Ross!) is Low Lands, biggest open area in all the Highlands, but Ross' are from Wester Ross, we just took over Easter Ross, and kicked all the Viking Lairds out from the Highlands and Around, and Came Up off them! You don't mess with the Picts Pal... I mean, that's a Rossist Term! I shouldn't say that! You shouldn't mess with the Race of the Priest, Ra-oss!
@elizabethshaw734
@elizabethshaw734 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was Scottish and I was raised at the knee of Scottish history. He knew Scottish history like the back of his hand as his mother had traced the family back to ancient Kings. He would still ask me where did the picts come from? He wasn't even sure but he knew I studied Scottish history as well and would ask me because he thought maybe I found out. He would ask me every couple of years and I couldn't answer him. He's gone now and I wish I could answer him!
@mermaidmimsy
@mermaidmimsy 9 ай бұрын
I heard the picts shared alot with the Cornovii tribe but not sure…
@JohnHopkins-uo3ph
@JohnHopkins-uo3ph 3 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@rorysullivan5694
@rorysullivan5694 4 жыл бұрын
You've nailed Celtic identity here Hilbert. I too believe that Celts were and are a cultural phenomena.
@Slapnuts9627
@Slapnuts9627 2 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Sullivan, lol. Anyways, I'd have to disagree, Insular Celtic peoples are genetically distinguished from the rest of Europe to be considered their own genetic ethnic groups. To be Celtic, is not only cultural and linguistic, but also can be genetic. A lot of people associate this theory with Celtic supremacists, I personally think that's ridiculous. Why is it every other ethnic group has genetic distinction but somehow Celts don't? Celt itself is really an umbrella term to refer to multiple ethnic groups.
@douglas_fir
@douglas_fir Жыл бұрын
@@Slapnuts9627 I'd say it's both. Insular celts are definitely distinguished genetically because of their insulae nature and living on islands. However the reality too is that most of Europe is/was Celtic. Meaning, 1) Racially European, 2)Spoke or speaks a Celtic language. 3)Practices/practiced a Celtic Culture & religion i.e. worshipping Gods that are associated with the Celtic expression, other materials and art styles etc.
@treeaboo
@treeaboo 7 ай бұрын
@@Slapnuts9627 The Celts were a cultural phenomena. That doesn't prevent many of the peoples who were and still are Celtic in culture (or cultural ancestry) from being genetically distinct from others. The entire point about the Celts being a cultural phenomena is that they comprised so many genetically distinct peoples, from the Insular Celts, to the Gauls, to the Celt-Iberians, and others. Celt as a term has acquired two separate meanings, one is that of the Celts, the historical peoples who were engaged in the Celtic culture across Europe, comprising of many genetically distinct populations, whose people haven't gone extinct but have since abandoned Celtic culture. The other meaning is that of the current Celtic Peoples, those of the Celtic Nations, the Insular Celts. Who are a set of genetically related Celtic peoples whose languages have survived into the modern day, being the only group of Celts whose languages have managed to survive. The term's dual definitions is the source of the confusion, there's nothing stopping the peoples of the Celtic Nations from using the term Celtic. The only issue arises when Celtic supremacists try to muddy the definitions for political reasons.
@Slapnuts9627
@Slapnuts9627 7 ай бұрын
@@treeaboo Its never about Celtic supremacy, it's about Celtic survival.
@LeCharles07
@LeCharles07 5 жыл бұрын
"King of the who?" "King of the Britons" "Who are the Britons?" "Well we all are, we are all Britons." "I didn't know we had a King. I though we were an autonomous collective."
@robjones3983
@robjones3983 4 жыл бұрын
Because you only know history from 1066. At least twenty kings were referred to as "King of the Britons", while others were given related titles or descriptions. The table below also contains the paramount native Welsh rulers in the Norman and Plantagenet periods - by this time only Wales (or parts thereof) remained under Brittonic rule in Britain and the term "Britons" (Brythoniaid, Brutaniaid) was used in Britain to mean the Welsh people (Cymry in modern Welsh). This, and the diminishing power of the Welsh rulers relative to the Kings of England, is reflected in the gradual evolution of the titles by which these rulers were known from "King of the Britons" in the 11th century to "Prince of Wales" in the 13th.[2]
@Anonim_Anonimovic
@Anonim_Anonimovic 4 жыл бұрын
"Well, I didn't vote for you..."
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. “Autonomous collective” is pretty much how William of Poitiers understood the political structure of Brittany. People there just do what they like, he’d say: men and women sleep with whom they please, everyone goes around armed to repel Normans, and they even work their own land with no one to tell them otherwise.
@winningbigly9012
@winningbigly9012 4 жыл бұрын
jones whooooosh
@wfcoaker1398
@wfcoaker1398 4 жыл бұрын
And here we see the violence inherent in the system
@williamdryden3286
@williamdryden3286 6 жыл бұрын
The Picts left us with some remarkable art....their carved stone still enhance parts of Angus and The Mearns.
@rhrh4989
@rhrh4989 3 жыл бұрын
Troll King oda
@lesterjohnston8888
@lesterjohnston8888 Жыл бұрын
Plenty stones in montrose Angus
@ballsack6547
@ballsack6547 Жыл бұрын
Dundee Fc
@unsrescyldas9745
@unsrescyldas9745 Жыл бұрын
gay stones.
@petermurdock7570
@petermurdock7570 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful history lesson making the unique Scottish ancestry come alive. Grateful for your efforts.
@frankklein4872
@frankklein4872 2 жыл бұрын
They did not get on well. What on earth do you base your lies? The Irish fought the Scottish and the Scottish fought the Welsh and the Welsh fought the English. The anglonormans fought the Irish and the British fought the irish. Go to SW Wales and see the English settlers, or the SE of Scotland and see the English settlers, or to Glasgow and see the Irish settlers, or to Ulster. The remnants of those tribes still hate each other and consider the other invaders.
@thearab59
@thearab59 3 жыл бұрын
On the subject of Pictish language, I once read an account of a Roman general who had gone on a expedition (punitive?) into the far north of Scotland. He used translators, generally hiring people locally, then pushing north. The translators were generally able to translate the local (Brythonic) dialect reasonably well. However he said that up in the far north the translators were useless, saying the local language was unrelated to their (British) dialects. What I take from this is that a pre-Celtic language was surviving in the far north of Pictland in Roman times (but probably not too long afterwards, and wiped out by the Norsemen at the very latest).
@ontyam
@ontyam 2 жыл бұрын
What are Norsemen?
@gasler8556
@gasler8556 2 жыл бұрын
To make it short, the Vikings that invaded England/Northern isles
@michaelalbertson7457
@michaelalbertson7457 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know that this means anything to this thread, but I read that 90% of the original Irish were wiped out, but not known how. I have a grandparent come from Ireland to England with a very recognizable Irish name, but DNA says 3% Irish. The main DNA on that side is mainly northern Europe for me.
@michaelalbertson7457
@michaelalbertson7457 2 жыл бұрын
@@ontyam Vikings were from Norway, Denmark and Sweden.
@ontyam
@ontyam 2 жыл бұрын
Are they the same as northmen?
@byronsmailes9494
@byronsmailes9494 5 жыл бұрын
I've binged watched most of your videos and learnt more than I ever did in conventional history lessons. I appreciate it 👌
@bobwoods7233
@bobwoods7233 6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the term Pict was taken from the roman name for these warring tribes "Picti" so called because they were covered in tattoos
@scottmurdock01z
@scottmurdock01z 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think they were tattooed mainly on the face and head. The warrior with the blue face and funky hair in "braveheart" was supposed to be a "Pict", as was Franco Columbo in the 1st "Conan" movie..
@scottmurdock01z
@scottmurdock01z 5 жыл бұрын
My "the history of Scotland" book says they tattooed their faces and did their hair up with mud to Make themselves look fierce to their enemy.
@nunyab1836
@nunyab1836 5 жыл бұрын
wasn't Guinevere supposed to be a pict ???
@rocknrolllives
@rocknrolllives 5 жыл бұрын
@@nunyab1836 From King Arthur? I think she was french
@hawkmoon4888
@hawkmoon4888 5 жыл бұрын
Nunya B Guinevere was a fictional character
@patriciafriedson8860
@patriciafriedson8860 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Hilbert, i enjoyed this video enormously! i've actually watched this third video about the Picts first, but look forward to watching the other two. This is fascinating, and cheerful, and just great. I hope you make lots of videos about all kinds of things! Thanks!
@bulldogwings54
@bulldogwings54 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! As about one quarter of my blood comes from the Picts, I have always been interested in their history. As you mentioned, historians cannot agree on this topic. You did a good job of delineating all the possibilities.
@benmacdui9328
@benmacdui9328 Жыл бұрын
Please explain your claim that one quarter of your blood is Pictish.
@jeffreyballinger133
@jeffreyballinger133 5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently studying my ancestry, and this is where it has led me. Gotta say this is pretty cool! To go back with my family's history to it's original beginning, it opens up a whole new can of research and discovery.
@willmosse3684
@willmosse3684 2 жыл бұрын
Mate. There is no original beginning. You can keep going back and back and back…
@freeraiderfranc8785
@freeraiderfranc8785 2 жыл бұрын
All fruits of Earth... same people same problem one planet.
@michaelalbertson7457
@michaelalbertson7457 Жыл бұрын
The Bible says God was in the beginning. Makes sense. Nothing else does. He has to be the Creator. In the beginning, He was... Our mind can't comprehend it, so we make up things. But when we do, we're wrong. God allows that, for He will judge us on how we lived and acknowledged Him. Most here want to be acknowledged, actually all do, just not so much publicly. Do you know that we got that desire from God? Only God is good, acknowledge Him, for we are not ALL good. Be honest.
@rotekanale8124
@rotekanale8124 Ай бұрын
Studying your ancestry is an art. It led me to the Caucasus mountains.
@williamdryden3286
@williamdryden3286 6 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Nechtansmere, 685 A.D. One of the most significant encounters in Scotland's history. The Picts defeated the Northumbrians and halted their advance North.
@Wsrtw53
@Wsrtw53 7 жыл бұрын
I think this is a great channel but I think nowadays before people jump on the new wave bandwagon pertaining to celtic studies they need to analyse DNA. It appears to be overwhelmingly probable that the subhaplogroup R1B P312 and it's subclades can be classified as the Celtic branch of the indo European haplogroup R1B, just like R1B S21 is accepted to be the Germanic branch. Every ancient celtic skeleton that has been tested belongs to this specific genetic marker, and it perfectly reflects modern distribution across the continent, with highly varied concentrations where it has been replaced by Germanic lineages. P312 was the genetic signature of the Gauls, Gaels, Picts, Britons, Belgae, Galatians etc, which informs us that in the early bronze age when linguistic groups separated and the proto celtic culture developed in the alpine area, it was in isolation long enough from other peoples to undergo a polymorphism, making those of proto celtic descent recognisable within genome testing, and proving the existence of a Celtic "race", in the same sense that there is a Germanic, and Italic and Slavic "race"
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
P312 appears to originate in Southern France, maybe in Aquitaine but France's genetic studies are extremely scarce and is very high and quite diverse among Basques and also among some other historically non-Celtic populations like Iberians or Ligurians. It's certainly a pre-Celtic marker.
@seumasnatuaighe
@seumasnatuaighe 6 жыл бұрын
The haplotype R1b populations are discernible from the end of the ice age, the present Holocene period. There are documented examples of carbon dated skeletal DNA from the first repopulation of Britain not only having the same haplotype but being directly related to living people in Britain today. The simplistic population replacement theory of history is not, (in my view,) the definitive answer to the true story of our past. New research on nuclear and mitochondrial DNA markers is becoming available for our analysis every year and we cannot yet write the conclusion to our story.
@alanfbrookes9771
@alanfbrookes9771 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The Ancient Britons were only 10% Celtic, and the Anglo-Saxons were never in a majority, nor did they drive the Britons up into the mountains. It's all a myth, and DNA analysis is starting to prove that.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
@Alan F. Brookes: what about this (Martiniano 2016): www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10326
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
@Seumas na Tuaighe: have I missed any recent archaeogenetic research that (finally!) proves that R1b is found in Western Europe "from the end of the ice age"? Because that's one of the most controversial issues of European population genetics and last time I checked there was nothing of the kind (for lack of enough research basically).
@GP452
@GP452 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you. I'm of Irish/Scots ancestry and enjoy learning the history of the People.
@pravoslavn
@pravoslavn 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this presentaiton. Thoughtfully organized, professionally articulated. And the graphics (maps &c) helped immeasurably. Excellent job. Now I have to watch all your other presentations, as well !
@JSEPTX
@JSEPTX 6 жыл бұрын
Those 3 parts on the Picts were very good. I have been fascinated with the people of ancient Britain, especially the Celtic Tribes that were around the time of the Romans.
@FirstLast-fr4hb
@FirstLast-fr4hb 7 жыл бұрын
I think you have by far the most positive comment feedback or any youtuber I've seen so far. :)
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely agree, subscribblers don't come better than the ones subscribbled to History with Hilbert, could not be happier with everyone here!
@jimmyvixen8257
@jimmyvixen8257 7 жыл бұрын
Lol so true.
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 5 жыл бұрын
First Last. Crap off. Ha Ha pwoaned you blud.
@tinawartemann6556
@tinawartemann6556 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastically in - depth! Thank you, I now know more about my Welsh-ness than in all my life until now. Regards, T.
@ewg6200
@ewg6200 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I am graced with an "explanation" of the picts, I finish up more confused than before the "explanation"!
@margaretbruhn4376
@margaretbruhn4376 2 жыл бұрын
That is common when studying pre-literate societies, or societies with writing systems we haven't managed to translate yet.
@mauerbrecher2547
@mauerbrecher2547 7 жыл бұрын
In your language chart, Breton is shown as descending directly from ancient Gallic/Gaulish. I've always thought it was mainly Brythonic, i.e. closely related to Welsh and Cornish. In fact, I think written Cornish looks like a transitory form between Welsh and Breton - it's got the w's and y's of Welsh, and the k's, e's and z's of Breton.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right here Mauer because the Bretons were really Celtic Britons fleeing the Anglo-Saxons. I will change this in future videos :)
@mauerbrecher2547
@mauerbrecher2547 7 жыл бұрын
It can confuse people a lot, because Breton is spoken in a formerly Gaulish-speaking area. Even Goscinny and Uderzo chose to place the main action in Astérix there, because of the region's association with all things Celtic.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, I think I made the language map in France once upon a time for my video on the Gauls though I'll correct it for future videos. That's true, today Brittany is the most Celtic region of France, especially with the Breton language still being spoken there :)
@bmc7434
@bmc7434 6 жыл бұрын
Welsh isn't directly related to Bryrhonic as a lot of it language comes from Old Irish especially since the Bryrhonic language was seriously damaged by the Romans adoption of Latin. Also Wales had huge Irish settlements and a lot of Welsh Nobility went to schools in Ireland. So Welsh really is a P Q language as a lot of the vocabulary and language structure is Old Irish;
@TheTomPeeters
@TheTomPeeters 6 жыл бұрын
I have to correct you on that one, B Mc. The number of Irish loanwords in Welsh is extremely small. Cadach (rag) and cnwc (hill) are some of the very few examples - and some place names like Llyn and Dinllaen. The Irish immigrants in Wales had been assimilated into the Welsh language by 600AD.
@mastersadvocate
@mastersadvocate 6 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered what ancient peoples had lived in Britain before the Celts! Your video was very interesting! I'm going to watch more of your videos! ~Janet in Canada (I am half Scottish, on my Dad's side)
@mayj257
@mayj257 4 жыл бұрын
The documentary called ,'THe Celts'.. can shed more light
@glenbe4026
@glenbe4026 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it is generally considered these days, that the "Celtic people of Britain" were the original inhabitants from the time of the Ice Age. Much like when the Normans (French Vikings) invaded, Danes (Danish Vikings) invaded, Anglo-Saxons (Northern Germans) invaded, Scots (Irish) invaded, Belgae (Belgian Celtic/Germanic people) invaded, all that changed was the "nobility" and the languages. Most of the underlying general population stayed the same.
@JohnSmith-ys4nl
@JohnSmith-ys4nl 3 жыл бұрын
As a yank I don't know what the word is to describe England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales as a whole entity. It seems you folks can't even agree on that term, so it leaves us outsiders hopelessly confused. So I will say "British Isles" to describe all 4 nations as one entity. (I've heard the Irish hate this term and insist on being totally separate. Guess I can't please everyone). Anyway, a genetic study was published about 2 years ago now which looked at this question. It was a massive study that looked at over 100 ancient skeletons from all over the "British Isles". What they found was that in the bronze age (2500 BC) a major population replacement happened. 90% of the "British Isles" gene pool was replaced in a 400 year period. So, no, people in the "British Isles" today are not the same as those in the Ice Age or the Neolithic. The population has been very steady since about 2500 BC, however. Yes these bronze age invaders wiped out the builders of Stonehenge, which is going to keep the archaeologists busy trying to understanding that dynamic. For instance, how did the newcomers view Stonehenge? Did they adopt it or try to destroy it? How about the Druids? Were they part of the old culture that was retained and adopted or did they only arise much later? So many fascinating questions. Now this is not to say none of the Neolithic folk survived. About 10% did and their DNA is still there today. Actually, I think the average person from the Isles has something like 20-30% Neolithic ancestry, so those guys made a recovery it seems. And, no, the Anglo-Saxon "invasions" weren't invasions at all really. It was an elite dominance type of scenario where a few impose their will on the many. DNA studies suggest they made little impact. Then again, its hard to tell since the Scandinavians are so closely related in the first place. The people who invaded Britain in the bronze age also invaded all of Northern Europe and replaced those populations too. So the Anglo people were already closely related.
@michaelalbertson7457
@michaelalbertson7457 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ys4nl I have read similar about 90% of the Irish disappearing in ancient times, and as my grandmother has a distinctly Irish name, who came to England, Liverpool in the 1800s, it seems like I should have more than 3% Irish. We have 18% Scandinavian, but the other half of my family came from Sweden. We have a relatively high northern Europe ancestry, most is the Saami, though.
@Sionnach1601
@Sionnach1601 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ys4nl I find it highly dubious that "90% of the gene pool was changed in 400 years", in a time when mobility was so incredibly slow. Secondly, and even more dubious, is the fact that these skeletons which were all available for a very long time in modernity for scientific research, ONLY happened to be DNA tested NOW! - and surprisingly all just happened to show the same utterly revolutionary conclusion! Staggering! The armies of previous researchers over the decades had just never thought to conduct DNA tests on them, or had been utterly incompetent when doing so! Staggering! It definitely wouldn't have anything to do with the notorious glo bal ist revisionism that is presently going on, to seriously distort the origins of things, the origins of peoples, and subvert their connection to and sense of ancient ownership to their native lands! This wouldn't in any way aid, in mass uncontrolled imm ig ration into Europe of course. So no John Smith: a lot of us here in this part of the World would outrightly reject these silly 'new findings' conducted by 'scientists' for the highest bidders. Thank you very much for that.
@Opochtli
@Opochtli 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hilbert
@RatelHBadger
@RatelHBadger 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a topic that needs more videos.
@williamllwyn1258
@williamllwyn1258 7 жыл бұрын
The map says Welsh, Britons. Welsh is a Saxon word which the Saxons called the native Britons.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
That's true but I'm speaking English which is a Germanic language made from the dialects of the Saxons and Angles (bit of Jutish and Frisian probably too) so I will call them Welsh too ;-)
@Scratchy7929
@Scratchy7929 6 жыл бұрын
History With Hilbert Old English was almost indistinguishable from Old Frisian to start with I have read.Modern English & Frisian are very different however, although there are some elements that have been retained.There is very little Central or Higher German influence on English.The English language only has influences from Ingvaeonic & Norse (Scandinavian) which are connected anyway, but again have deviated alot over the last 1000 years.English has very little DNA from Saxon, Angles (very little historical background), Jutes (small trace in Kent etc.), I1 haplo-groups are predominent there .The most prominent haplo-groups in England are still pre-Celtic as they in Wales, Lowland Scotland.All these countries have more modern offshoots of this pre-Celtic DNA (The ininitial source is the same, however).England, especially in East Midlands has lower levels of Frisian / Netherland haplo-groups r1b-s21.Southern England has Belgic R1b-U152 (especially Kent 10%).The Welsh language (initially spoken in both Lowland Scotland & the majority of England) is said to have been spread to Britain by these Belgic people.Wales has predominently R1b-l21, however.Therefore a different R1b group spread / transformed their language as it did to Lowland Scotland.Scots is actually related to Old English / Old Frisian.There is very little Norman DNA left in England, although the Norman French language had significant effect on the English language, along with Latin through Roman Catholic Church influence. There are studies being carried out that Old English absorbed Britonic Syntax as English Syntax (or the way words are formed into sentances) is very different to Modern German, Dutch, Frisian or Flemish or related dialects and is more of a similar nature to Modern Welsh. Too call English a Germanic / Ingaevonic language is far too simplistic, especially in the modern sense of the languages which have very much diverged of the centuries.
@Scratchy7929
@Scratchy7929 6 жыл бұрын
Robertus Antoninus The Welsh Rb1-L21 is pre-Celtic even as it is in England.The predominent haplogroup in UK is descended from a proto-Italic-Celtic-Germanic population.The people who carried these haplogroups wouldn't have known what these divisions were.Perhaps they defined themselves into different ethnic divisions in other ways that has now been lost to time.These are all modern assumptions of a time long gone.
@jubanumidia8460
@jubanumidia8460 6 жыл бұрын
Welsh are gauls , in French welsh = Galois
@garymcatear822
@garymcatear822 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Palfrey Exactly mate, example...loads of countries speak English now, that does not mean all those natives of all those countries are English.
@serenanorris6129
@serenanorris6129 6 жыл бұрын
New subscriber thank you for this channel I love prechristian history. A day without learning is a day waisted
@witty2898
@witty2898 5 жыл бұрын
Learn how to spell wasted
@MrTristanryan
@MrTristanryan 4 жыл бұрын
For MaximillianMus - You just backed up the point being made! Thank you Captain Pompous Arse of the Grammar Police
@wilson4968
@wilson4968 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very much enjoying your videos. Thanks for asking.
@alicewilloughby4318
@alicewilloughby4318 4 жыл бұрын
"You don't win by winning a war. You win by writing that you won the war." So often true! 10:20 - Beautiful carved stone!
@panzerlieb
@panzerlieb 4 жыл бұрын
Well you have to win the war first before you can write about winning it. Or, at least, the war has to be a draw. See Ramses II’s account of his war with the Hittites. If you go by his version he won a great victory, where the truth is he barely managed to avoid disaster. In the end, Ramses war was a draw. But that didn’t stop him tell his own rather colored version of it. I’m sure the Romans weren’t any different.
@chucklynch6523
@chucklynch6523 4 жыл бұрын
Not only by writing that you won the war, but by breeding with the their women and mixing with them, much like the great Normans did in France!!!
@HarryGuit
@HarryGuit 3 жыл бұрын
Not that often! Thought about twice: Never!
@Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63
@Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63 3 жыл бұрын
I think we can see this in the current need to reshape history and culture.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
War is always a racket. The occult leaders always play both sides. That is why war is also known as Theater. The Soul Diers are Pion eers that must be eliminated, to relieve the debt on the Crown. Its all an Act. World war one and World war 2 were Both Phony Phoenician wars. They set everyone up on both sides, for their own wealth and rule. They even knew back then that this date in time would come, for a virus. The Age of Aquarius and the new Lord Authority for the new religion and the new World order.
@McConnachy
@McConnachy 4 жыл бұрын
The Pre Celtic of Scotland were Siberian’s, they came across an archipelago from Scandinavia as the ice caps retreated. The Sami of Finland are a close relation of the Scots. These settlers took with them, the now named, Highland cattle, whose closest relation is the Yak. The Picts are probably an integration of Siberian and Celtic people’s. Like most people in the north of Scotland, my DNA is Siberian, I’m related not just to the Sami, but the Inuits and Canadian Indians. I think that’s exotic!
@longliveavalon
@longliveavalon 4 жыл бұрын
Is this for reals mate? WTF
@robertmiles4022
@robertmiles4022 4 жыл бұрын
This is interezting.
@McConnachy
@McConnachy 4 жыл бұрын
longliveavalon12 Afraid so.
@McConnachy
@McConnachy 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Miles it’s interesting alright Robert. Blows all this race stuff away 👍
@andrewduhamelmackinnon7359
@andrewduhamelmackinnon7359 4 жыл бұрын
Not to forget Russ or Russia is derived from the Nordics, hence Scotlands links to both sharing much later St. Andrew.
@infocus
@infocus 4 жыл бұрын
"The Vulnerable Bede" is priceless art, man. Today marks the first time I've encountered the term, or even the notion of, "Celtic supremacists".
@fearmor3855
@fearmor3855 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way he uses Welsh text over Ireland while he's explaining the celtic invasions
@dennismayfield8846
@dennismayfield8846 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent 'Stuff'' "Hilbert"!! My Father and Grand-Father, were (Professional and Amateur, respectively) Historians/Linguists/Archeologists/Genetisists, and tried to teach me as much as possible on such matters as these, in our all too short time together. (My Father, was actually 'fortunate' enough, to be befriended, by Rahn and Forresthal, before their deaths and WWII's end.) Many Thanks, 'M'Lad' for your informing us, and still keeping things interesting! (BTW: Agree very much with you and your sources, about the 'Basques', as I have several cousins who are so, and they have spoken often, of it as you and your sources do!) Again, Many Thanks!
@LegoMonkeycat
@LegoMonkeycat 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting theories on the Picts. I had forgotten about Basque and the theory that it's not Indo-European is very intriguing. I loved that henge joke. "It's got a nice ring to it.."
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! A French teacher of mine was a Basque hence why I know a little about it :D Yes!! I'm glad someone got it, I'll be sure to add some more historical humour in the next one too :D
@LegoMonkeycat
@LegoMonkeycat 7 жыл бұрын
History With Hilbert I'll be sure to look out for more humour in the next one.
@LegoMonkeycat
@LegoMonkeycat 7 жыл бұрын
I just built my own mini-model of Stonehenge that I got for Christmas, so that joke is even better.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
LegoMonkeycat That was a good present then! I swear I didn't know xD
@LegoMonkeycat
@LegoMonkeycat 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this video kinda got me motivated to take it out of the box and construct it.
@thrillkillkult-bq5tp
@thrillkillkult-bq5tp 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you I needed this history. My family is from the picts
@dougyoung2294
@dougyoung2294 5 жыл бұрын
Well presented. Cheers
@tordenbob
@tordenbob 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable! Great knowledge, and great work putting together this video!
@thma8423
@thma8423 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, thank you. I read in an article that most of the things Picts left on stones could not not been understood / deciphered (except drawings of ordinary scenes, of course). Curious that their symbolic was so specific.
@paulinlasvegas
@paulinlasvegas 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I enjoy your sharing of knowledge very much. The idea that the picts may have been a branch of the Basque is very possible.
@de-bo2515
@de-bo2515 3 жыл бұрын
Pict DNA www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/picts.html
@rmb2664
@rmb2664 5 жыл бұрын
Good job for shedding some light on this mystery.
@borndigitalgaminglx2258
@borndigitalgaminglx2258 Жыл бұрын
I am a direct descendant of the Picts which is pretty dope! So it's cool to have watched these!
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 6 жыл бұрын
Scythia - sɪðiə, not an "i" as in sigh, but an "i" as in hit :) aside from that, an interesting video.
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 5 жыл бұрын
3:19 Breton has two dialects: the one spoken in Kernev, Tregor and Leon is close to Cornish. The one in Vannes is a form of Welsh and Welsh names like Ridoredh occur there.
@unsrescyldas9745
@unsrescyldas9745 Жыл бұрын
thas wild.
@sacredweeds
@sacredweeds 4 жыл бұрын
After watching a bunch of professors you really cleared things up ... Thank you!🌷
@paulbennett7021
@paulbennett7021 4 жыл бұрын
Reasonably accurate presentation; loads of tosh in the comments, particularly linking linguistic & genetic groups; the aboriginal languages of Britain were neither Pictish nor Basquish; they're now lost, but their influence is evident in English & Celtic (e.g. the progressive or continuous present tense, unknown in other Germanic languages).
@davidmanton3642
@davidmanton3642 5 жыл бұрын
As a Scot, this is an important issue for me. There is now a scholarly consensus that the Picts, as you mentioned, spoke a P Celtic language. I really don't care if the Celts are an ethnic group or simply a Cultural and Linguistic one. It is the latter that matters to me. However, there is some recent evidence to suggest that the Celts did arrive in the British Isles from mainland Europe.
@alanfbrookes9771
@alanfbrookes9771 5 жыл бұрын
Of course they did. Where else was there to come from? :) The Ancient Britons came over from Southern Europe about 12,000 BC as the ice receded. They had to come from Southern Europe because Northern Europe was still covered in ice. The Celts arrived in Britain about 400 BC and were never anything but a small minority. But over the next 400 years the Britons took on Celtic ways and the mixture of the language of the Celtic settlers and the existing Britons became Brythonic, the main Celtic language spoken all over the British Isles at one time.
@axiomaddict
@axiomaddict 4 ай бұрын
Can you say more?
@CanMeHaveAPizza
@CanMeHaveAPizza 5 жыл бұрын
Lovin' the Cymraeg in on the diagrams
@SuperMagnetizer
@SuperMagnetizer 4 жыл бұрын
Da iawn!
@patrickgleason2066
@patrickgleason2066 3 жыл бұрын
Great storytelling. As always; when I hear how people lived in the past, I’m glad I live now, not then.
@jeffcokenour3459
@jeffcokenour3459 3 жыл бұрын
Very in depth video. As a former professional linguist, I think you did an excellent job. Language is fluid and very difficult. One needs only to look to Ukraine today to see how language can change very quickly. Bravo.
@hord81
@hord81 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!Greetings from Norway
@cptjohnbhewler1529
@cptjohnbhewler1529 2 жыл бұрын
My forefathers were Scandinavian from Norway that landed In Scotland and Ireland around the 1000's although Viking Is an immature name to call them In the context most people use it and think of It. My family Hewison comes from the ancient Scottish Dalriadan Clans of Argyllshire and the ancient Kingdom of Dál Riata. Descended from the MacDonalds of Sleat. the largest and most powerful of Highland clans, Lords of the Isle. Our Motto: By sea and by land. Norwegian longships were the most advanced naval designs In the world at that time. And they taught the Anglo-Saxons and Britons new military tactics before successfully Integrating themselves into their new cultures. Vikings eventually came to Rule France, Normandy and the British Isles by way of marriage and power. Hilsen Brødre
@hord81
@hord81 2 жыл бұрын
@@cptjohnbhewler1529 Vær hilset bror.
@drakesavage1979
@drakesavage1979 6 жыл бұрын
Way too complicated for me. I'll just tell my friends that the Picts were warriors, who dyed themselves blue, and killed anyone on the battlefield who were not blue.
@joshwallace4684
@joshwallace4684 6 жыл бұрын
I believe the women fought naked along with them or was that Ireland? Maybe both.
@graylad
@graylad 6 жыл бұрын
Some went on to be successful mascots for Gaviscon.
@kennedy.binni.belindabinni4690
@kennedy.binni.belindabinni4690 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Wallace some women did fight along with the men the other women looked after the old and young away from the battle ,back home in their community's
@kennedy.binni.belindabinni4690
@kennedy.binni.belindabinni4690 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Wallace have you been to Scotland it's not that warm, yes they painted the self's blue and red all over before battle but did have clothes, it's showing the birth and death ,they came in naked to this world they will leave this world the same ...naked. ready to die.
@DISTurbedwaffle918
@DISTurbedwaffle918 6 жыл бұрын
And were promptly stomped by Rome for sport, their land basically being used as a human hunting field whenever a general got bored of not killing things.
@TommyEngdahl
@TommyEngdahl Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy. Bits n pieces of knowledge from different sources to make a whole through ďivine heureka-epiphanies
@scottanderson8167
@scottanderson8167 5 жыл бұрын
This is very intelligible. Thank you for explaining things so clearly. I’m writing fiction set in 11th century N. Europe so this helps a lot.
@louiechidwick6034
@louiechidwick6034 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Ogham alphabet was used as text by the Irish Celts, the Welsh Celts and the Picts. To me that suggests an ancestral connection to all three cultures. Great video by the way. Louie.
@molecatcher3383
@molecatcher3383 3 жыл бұрын
Ogham is thought to have first appeared around 400AD by which time the peoples you mention were already distinct from each other. The Picts were later converted to Christianity by Irish missionaries would have passed on knowledge of Ogham to them.
@elimalinsky7069
@elimalinsky7069 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard about the Picts or Welsh using Ogham. The Ogham script was used solely by the Irish as far as I know, and it was limited to very short dedications. The few inscriptions found in Scotland are attributed to early settlements of Gaels from Ireland, if I'm not mistaken. The script appears very shortly before the Christianization of Ireland and the adoptions of the Latin script, so it never had any chance to truly shine.
@brucecollins4729
@brucecollins4729 2 жыл бұрын
@@elimalinsky7069 ogham writings have been found in scotland. most likely pictish. there was no settlments of gaels from ireland. the gaels were already here
@elimalinsky7069
@elimalinsky7069 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucecollins4729 But the Gaels came from Ireland. The Scots are people from Ireland originally.
@brucecollins4729
@brucecollins4729 2 жыл бұрын
@@elimalinsky7069 no, that,s only ever been based on mythical writings. type in.....irish and scottish gaels on irish origenes...this is the most believable i,ve came across so far. irish historians now concede the 1st people to enter ireland came from scotland
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it time somebody got round to digging up some bone-fide pictish bones and doing a DNA-analysis on them? This would at least prove or disprove the Basque connection.
@molecatcher3383
@molecatcher3383 3 жыл бұрын
Many academics believe that the Picts, like most of peoples of Britain and Ireland, were mainly descended from the Beaker People who arrived around 4400 years ago. Also if one considers ancient Iberia to be representative of the Basques then their connection to the Picts was investigated in 2018, see link: www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/february/the-beaker-people-a-new-population-for-ancient-britain.html The study of over 400 ancient skeletons from western and central Europe, involving the UK Natural History Museum, shows that, during the Bronze Age 4500 years ago, the Beaker culture spread into central Europe from Iberia without a significant movement of people. Skeletons from Beaker burials in Iberia are not genetically close to central European Beaker skeletons. Large megalithic structures such Stonehenge were built in Britain by Neolithic (or New Stone Age) people, who were replaced by the Bronze Age Beaker population Britain saw significant population changes, however. Beaker culture was taken up by a group of people living in Central Europe whose ancestors had previously migrated from the Eurasian Steppe (thought by most to be the Indo-European homeland). This group continued to migrate west and finally arrived in Britain around 4,400 years ago The DNA data suggests that over a span of several hundred years, the migrations of people from continental Europe led to an almost complete replacement of Britain's earlier (Neolithic) inhabitants. The Beakers were Indo-European but not Celtic culturally. Thousands of years later the descendants of the Beakers living in the north of Scotland became culturally Celtic either by immigration from Central Europe (the Celtic homeland) or by cultural adoption or perhaps a combination of both.
@Musick79
@Musick79 3 жыл бұрын
No such thing as respecting the dead anymore. Anyone notice that?
@de-bo2515
@de-bo2515 3 жыл бұрын
I found these , I think in one of these links they are on about doing DNA, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39002843 www.realmofhistory.com/2017/07/21/facial-reconstruction-pictish-man-scotland/
@de-bo2515
@de-bo2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@molecatcher3383 have you seen the facial reconstruction of the Stonehenge man, he was no beaker people. www.newscientist.com/article/dn24811-stonehenge-man-not-just-a-pretty-face/
@molecatcher3383
@molecatcher3383 3 жыл бұрын
@@de-bo2515 Thanks for that link which I read. You are right that he was not a Beaker but he was of Neolithic farmer, and probably Mesolithic hunter gatherer descent. He lived before the Beakers had arrived in Britain. One thing which does not seem right is that they said he had a hint of ginger in his hair indicating Celtic origins. It is not possible that he could have been of Celtic descent because at that time there were no Celts in Britain or even in Western Europe. This story was from 2014 but the link that I gave in my earlier comment was from 2018 which confirmed that there had been a 90% population replacement in Britain with the arrival of the Beakers. Given that the DNA of Britain barely changed between the Beakers and the departure of the Romans this confirms also that the Stonehenge man could not be of Celtic descent.
@H4mmerofD4wn
@H4mmerofD4wn 4 жыл бұрын
Overall I like the video, because I *can* follow what you're discussing. Thank you for creating and posting about a topic that not everyone will jump at the chance to watch. I return to your videos, because this isn't information I have to recall regularly but find immense interest in and would like to teach my child. Therefore, I thought you would welcome how you could improve the stylistic aspects of the video to compliment the monumental task of all you say. 1. I believe the animations in this video need to be updated; nothing is highlighted as you move along in your discussion, which, at least for myself, distracts me from listening to the valuable information you're dispensing and the speed at which you sometimes hop to the next image. In other words, I am looking for the locations on the maps that aren't there nor are highlighted as they are mentioned and therefore am missing what you say thereby requiring me to rewind back to what I missed. 2. Some of the colors of the words are barely visible (e.g., light pink for, at least, the "Britons" post Angles invasion mentioned in the first three minutes of the video). 3. You mention Cumbria at the 2:20 mark, but Cumbria is not on the map. 4. While the following are merely examples of Brythonic Scottish kingdoms as well as that you state Gododdin is destroyed by the Northumbrians, Gododdin and Strathclyde are mentioned but not on the map. 5. What do "P" and "Q" stand for on the Celtic Languages Tree? While you *do* provide examples of "P-Celtic" and "Q-Celtic" languages when returning to the map at the 3:47 mark, you still don't elaborate on what the letters stand for.
@happylostsouls3327
@happylostsouls3327 Жыл бұрын
Great content!!!
@user-wu7ug4ly3v
@user-wu7ug4ly3v 5 жыл бұрын
Loved how welsh was your default “Celtic”; you made the mainland AND Ireland speak Cymraeg. 😀 Diolch yn fawr iawn!
@johnkoenig326
@johnkoenig326 3 жыл бұрын
The Picts were mighty cartoonists who created a host of animated adventures, as commanded by their all-powerful Leader, the Pict-Czar.
@andrewchiasson1492
@andrewchiasson1492 3 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious idk why it doesn’t have more likes
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
Hardly all powerful. They are gone now. Bu Bye. Put that blue chalk on your pool cue as a reminder. lol
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like they ended up being converted into Russians from Aryans, by the Royals. If they had a Czar. lol All Middle Eastern anyway.
@johnkoenig326
@johnkoenig326 2 жыл бұрын
@@je-freenorman7787 Please don't ever reproduce.
@DerHammerSpricht
@DerHammerSpricht 2 жыл бұрын
The Pict-Czar. Love it.
@kae4466
@kae4466 6 жыл бұрын
this has answered some of my questions on the uk and its proto history. will book mark for future reference . thanks .
@michaelzaragoza7927
@michaelzaragoza7927 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done, seeths of facts and knowledge , although this is not my interests in primary, I've always been open minded to everything in the world. It is so refreshing to be able to listen to your channel and be given so much knowledge in such a compact time. I can go on with my day and know that I started it learning a small peice of the world more and during the day I can refllect back on a new. understating If we all could learn something more everyday tangent to our own profession or work description , we could understand how minute our own burdens really are by seeing our own place in our world , where we came from and how we can shape where we're going. What we base bias and prejudice open we all have a common origin. I enjoyed your episodes very much, I'm now a subscriber and will be as long as you continue. Thank you.
@FirstLast-fr4hb
@FirstLast-fr4hb 7 жыл бұрын
I can only Picture who they were.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there :D ...
@FirstLast-fr4hb
@FirstLast-fr4hb 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty good xD
@legionxiii8055
@legionxiii8055 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! For that pun, I have a bone to pict with you!
@resourcedragon
@resourcedragon 6 жыл бұрын
There's surprisingly little genetic evidence for the Roman presence in Britain. For that matter, neither the Anglo-Saxons nor the Vikings left as much genetic evidence as you would expect. (See Neil Oliver's series, "The Faces of Britain" for more information about this.)
@andy602
@andy602 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a descendant of Pict royalty. Wiki 'Forbes clan.'
@Dalmenco
@Dalmenco 6 жыл бұрын
Language does not necessarily identify ethnic identity...many ethnic groups adopt foreign languages giving up their own.
@Lordpeyre
@Lordpeyre 5 жыл бұрын
The Gauls for instance!
@fisebilillah4406
@fisebilillah4406 4 жыл бұрын
French, for example.
@palepilgrim1174
@palepilgrim1174 4 жыл бұрын
Language does define ethnic identity. The Picts were literally lost to history and considered an extinct people before modern advances showed they were just Gaelicized. The importance of language simply cannot be stated enough when it comes to distinguishing yourself as an ethnic group. The Picts became Gaelic speakers and in doing so were absorbed into an ethnolinguistic group and lost all claim to distinction.
@mayj257
@mayj257 4 жыл бұрын
They are not only using the language to prove this but language also leaves a trail
@godworden2768
@godworden2768 4 жыл бұрын
Munja I thought that was obvious to anyone that studies history.
@jbailor13
@jbailor13 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on Hilbert. A National Geographic magazine article on the Welsh some years back discussed a certain Y chromosome that is lightly scattered across Europe, but found in large concentrations amongst the Welsh and the Basques. This lends credibility to the idea that Basques are the aboriginal pre-IndoEuropean peoples of Europe, and that the pre-Roman peoples of Britain included proto-Celtic populations who'd for one reason or another adopted a Celtic language.
@kevsmithard5586
@kevsmithard5586 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video. Thanks.
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 5 жыл бұрын
Worth it just for the Vulnerable Bede and Hogging England
@catmom1322
@catmom1322 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt the Venerable Bede was vulnerable.
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 2 жыл бұрын
@@catmom1322 I don't know... I bet a little wine, some Barry White and Kenny G... I could have him purring like a Walrus.
@ericzum
@ericzum 6 жыл бұрын
With your images, I would recommend displaying the dates of which you're speaking.
@karenramnath9993
@karenramnath9993 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Thank you 👍🏻
@Douchkamuzuri
@Douchkamuzuri 5 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy and am really interested in this history. Thank you.
@therabman_5606
@therabman_5606 4 жыл бұрын
the Scots and the Irish have always been intertwined it seems
@cptjohnbhewler1529
@cptjohnbhewler1529 2 жыл бұрын
My forefathers were Scandinavian/Viking from Norway that landed In Scotland and Ireland around the 1000's although Viking Is an immature name to call them In the context most people use it and think of It. My family Hewison comes from the ancient Scottish Dalriadan Clans of Argyllshire and the ancient Kingdom of Dál Riata. Descended from the MacDonalds of Sleat. the largest and most powerful of Highland clans, Lords of the Isle. Our Motto: By sea and by land. Norwegian longships were the most advanced naval designs In the world at that time. And they taught the Anglo-Saxons and Britons new military tactics before successfully Integrating themselves into their new cultures. Vikings eventually came to Rule France, Normandy and the British Isles by way of marriage and power.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
Aryans. The history has been erased.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
Scots and Irish are both Middle Eastern.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
Ever hear of the Scottish Rite? Ever wonder why the Washington Monument is an Egyptian Obelisk? lol Same thing. The Royals are scam artist Nazis and they lie about everything.
@je-freenorman7787
@je-freenorman7787 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, without the Whole Nine Yards, Aryans ruled the world for the Age of Aries, for at least those 2000 years. Then the rulers reset the calender to zero and began conversions into Semitism. Romans killed anyone who did not comply and they were together with Islam and the Jews. There is only 1 Religion. Then there are cults of that 1 religion and we call them Religions. But they are cults of the same religion. Men killing other men. For beliefs.
@jsmcguireIII
@jsmcguireIII 5 жыл бұрын
1) I would not dismiss the Bede version completely given the numerous other groups that did cross to britain from Scandinavia over time. 2) there is however, strong genetic evidence for an Iberian connection to the post-ice age Irish who became the pre-Norman gaelic. 3) Like linguistics, I think an analysis of place-names would provide more to the discussion. 4) The proximity of Ulster to SW Scotland is a hard thing to ignore. Iona and the Irish monastic movement that went all the way to Northumbria after the Romans left shows that. I suppose a researcher might try to analyze mitochondrial dna in known Pict descendants for a clue about the Irish women in Bede's story. Thanks for posting your information.
@palepilgrim1174
@palepilgrim1174 4 жыл бұрын
Some other things to support Bede's claims: 1) Early Pictish stones are identical to Gottland stones. I'm talking identical symbols, identical layouts, identical borders, identical art styles... it is staggering that this is not being studied by academics 2) Picture stones themselves only occur in Germanic areas with the sole exception of the Picts 3)The Romans frequently professed a Germanic identity or at least origin to the Caledonians/Picts, including Tacitus (who was kind of the authority on Germanic peoples at the time) 4)Their language is repeatedly stated to be distinct from both the Britons (Welsh) and the Gaels (Irish) 5) Bede spoke Old English, this language was very similar to the languages of Scandinavia as the English had originated in the same general region as Norse did, so he would likely know a Scandinavian peoples if he encountered them 6) Pictish stones show them hunting with falcons, which at the time in Europe was only practiced by the Goths an other Germanic tribes who adopted it from the Huns, there's also no evidence that any other peoples of the British Isles practiced falconry at this time 7) Pictish areas are extremely close geographically to Scandinavia and it's highly unlikely they had not been trading and interacting for a long time 8) Ptolemy seems to record a tribe of Lugii around Caithness in the 150s 9) We know the Picts did have some kind of interaction with the Germanic peoples as they coordinated with Saxons and Franks to invade Rome in the Barbarian Conspiracy where they ravaged Britannia for a year along with the Irish 10) The Picts are eventually believed to have been slowly Gaelicized over centuries, the only other recorded group we have this happening to were... the Norse who settled western Scotland and Ireland around the same time the Picts were being Gaelicized 11) Pictish stones literally depict Loki While I wouldn't go so far as to claim they were a Germanic people, I think it's kind of undeniable that there was Germanic influence on the Picts, it's a question of how much and whether they were perhaps an early Germanic people (so perhaps proto-Norse or even proto-Germanic) who settled the British Isles and just became slowly Celticized over the centuries due to various factors.
@nunyab1836
@nunyab1836 5 жыл бұрын
thank you ,that was very helpful.
@AmericanShia786
@AmericanShia786 5 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and this is an excellent video! I'm a subscriber. I am a fan of history, especially European and Middle-Eastern and American history.
@seanross4202
@seanross4202 7 жыл бұрын
thank you very for your pick series. I do very much like to so call dark age time , and want to learn more. for some passable future topics. I would like to hear about the Germans of that time as well as the Welsh Cornish and Irish
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
No problem at all, thank you for watching and commenting on the series! I plan to make videos covering all of these civilizations in the future - so stay tuned for more :D !!
@zoetropo1
@zoetropo1 5 жыл бұрын
The Britons of the south also painted themselves blue with woad body paint. In fact, woad production continued in Cambridgeshire until the late 20th century when they replaced it with a synthetic dye. Still blue, though.
@chumbucket1313
@chumbucket1313 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that it's as clear as mud now!
@susanschaffner4422
@susanschaffner4422 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I enjoyed this a lot.
@jojoheartspaypay
@jojoheartspaypay 4 жыл бұрын
These were the guys that took over after King Conan of Aquilonia sailed out to sea for the last time.
@TreforTreforgan
@TreforTreforgan 6 жыл бұрын
It's worth considering that etymologically both Pict and Briton are the same thing. The word 'Briton' being a Romanised corruption of 'Prydain'; 'pryd' in Welsh meaning colour or tint. So the name Britain is accepted in modern history as meaning 'painted', thus named for the inhabitants culture of body painting. 'Pict' means the same but in Latin. I might posit that 'British' is the older bastardised version of the word Pict, that became a common usage. Perhaps by the time they had established Hadrian's Wall the practice of body painting was discontinued, or even outlawed, in Roman controlled areas. The unconquered Picts were still practicing the old tradition, which is why the Romans called them Pictii. It's the same 'pict' we see in the word 'picture'.
@potatoes2910
@potatoes2910 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Faherty The romans never outlawed cultural practices that didn't threaten their rule. We know, however, that they did abolish things like human sacrifices. A lot of celtic peoples were named after the practice of body painting. Romans spoke of this practice as a battle religious ritual. This practice must have been discontinued in Britannia, due to the fact that there was no fighting during the Pax Romana period. The people were acculturated by the romans, the elite spoke latin and the people spoke vulgar latin, mainly in the south east, while brythonic prevailed in the center, the west, and the north. Furthermore, the roman rule didn't end at Hadrian's wall. One of the main purposes of the wall was to collect trading taxes. The brythonic languages all use a name derived from vulgar latin to designate great britain and themselves, while, for example, welsh uses a descendant of the celtic ethnonym "pritani" that gave Britannia in latin to designate the Picts.
@TreforTreforgan
@TreforTreforgan 6 жыл бұрын
Potatoes ! Interesting. One wonders if the body painting was primarily a war paint, as Neil Marshall suggests in his film Centurion. Not an altogether serious suggestion, but it could explain perhaps that the practice may have waned during Pax Romana, while it continued in the unconquered regions. It's just interesting to have these parallel nomenclatures based on different ethnonyms.
@thebatman4083
@thebatman4083 5 жыл бұрын
I would agree with your definition of Celtic nature. I was taught that the British and Irish peoples were Celtic by culture but not by race. Subscribed.
@colmmcantsionnaigh1931
@colmmcantsionnaigh1931 2 жыл бұрын
Taught by who,
@herrhrodulf1208
@herrhrodulf1208 4 жыл бұрын
What is the title of the painting of the stones at the end of the video?
@chadvogel3594
@chadvogel3594 6 жыл бұрын
the place names in Scotland point to it being a Brythonic p-celtic language.
@palepilgrim1174
@palepilgrim1174 4 жыл бұрын
There's actually very few such placenames in Pictish areas, they are overwhelmingly Goidelic which is unusual as other areas the Gaels conquered seemed to retain Brittonic or Norse placenames, such as Strathclyde and the Hebrides. There's not really enough placenames in Pictish areas to support the idea that they ever spoke Brittonic, in fact there are as many, if not more, English derived placenames in Pictish areas.
@gramursowanfaborden5820
@gramursowanfaborden5820 3 жыл бұрын
it's worth considering that the Picts, being quite different to any modern culture or indeed any known ancient culture, might not have thought of places and place names in the same way we do.
@alethearia
@alethearia 3 жыл бұрын
There have been some theories that the Picts were related to the Basque and are indigenous to Northern Europe. There are so many cultures that were destroyed by the Romans. What would the world look like if dominance didn't equal destruction.
@treeaboo
@treeaboo 7 ай бұрын
There is genetic evidence on the Y-Chromosome to imply that the natives of the British Isles in general are related to the Basques, it's most prominent in the Welsh and Irish but also highly prominent in the Scots, Manx, Cornish, and English. It seems quite possible that the Celts being a cultural phenomena, had taken root culturally within all of pre-Roman Britain and Ireland except for the lands of the Picts, who had retained the older language and culture. The Picts being genetically of the same group as the Britons and Gaels, but having not adopted the Celtic cultural phenomenon.
@terencemagee
@terencemagee 4 жыл бұрын
Right on the Basques being first inhabitants of British Isles and Ireland, have read it some many times over 30 years or so, but still not mentioned a lot. It makes sense Basque was the first language of British Isles and Ireland.
@kristinacaprio4236
@kristinacaprio4236 5 жыл бұрын
Great video...I have some British DNA but always thought I was mostly Irish. Your commentary is excellent (& your flubs are really endearing & cute hehe ;) )
@jeffebdy
@jeffebdy 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting decades to hear my own feeble theories voiced!
@anthonyjat1964
@anthonyjat1964 3 жыл бұрын
As a question, does that mean modern British have Italian ancestry in them through the Romans?
@Dzeroed
@Dzeroed 5 жыл бұрын
In all your maps you missed out the Shetland Isles! Don't worry, even UK TV weather broadcasts always used to miss us out as well, lol. We have some of the best preserved pictish archaeological sites on the entire planet- Look up Mousa Broch, Clikimin Broch, Jarlsof, the Scatness Dig and Prehistoric Shetland on Google the BBC's Time Team came up and did an episode here as well. If any of you are interested, have a look and maybe even take a trip up to see it for yourself.
@Dzeroed
@Dzeroed 5 жыл бұрын
@Kelli Andrews I wrote that when the weather was still nice. It's shit here now, damn rain and wind, forget I mentioned the place, I'd rather be somewhere warm! Jk 😂
@JMR7Six
@JMR7Six 3 жыл бұрын
"You don't win by winning a war. You win by writing that you won the war." I've heard something similar, but that statement really clicked with me...
@chunkypythagoras1732
@chunkypythagoras1732 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez, this comments section. So many genetics experts in the world isn't there...
@CoolioXXX52
@CoolioXXX52 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of people who have studied genetics look at videos like this. Why skeptical?
@palepilgrim1174
@palepilgrim1174 4 жыл бұрын
And what the Picts show is that genetics are irrelevant if you lose your language, at the end of the day. As you will be lost to history and grouped with the people whose language to switched to. Nobody claims to be a Pict today, do they, regardless of what their genetics say.
@scarletfluerr
@scarletfluerr 4 жыл бұрын
That's because people think that the genetic tests from 23andMe and Ancestry are real genetic tests and not just for the fun of it. Even the companies acknowledge that these tests are nowhere near as good as true genetic testing.
@molecatcher3383
@molecatcher3383 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmdi Science, including genetics, has no use for political ideologies. It is facts, not feelings, that matter.
@jambammz9908
@jambammz9908 3 жыл бұрын
@@palepilgrim1174 no it's the opposite. What the Picts show is that genetics doesn't matter. ..some do still see themselves as Pict.
@stevenclark6288
@stevenclark6288 7 жыл бұрын
Like to see you tie this to DNA studies of late that show a strong tie between the people of the Britain and Ireland and the Iberian peninsula. Your mention of Basque interests me and their linguistic tie to the Picts.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
Although the term "Celt" and the whole identity that goes with it, has come under intense scrutiny in the academic world, there was undoubtedly a commonality between several of these people, the Iberians you mention being the northern Galicians from Spain, are possibly thought to have introduced some language and cultural influences on the Irish. The point about Basque would be before these Celtic links had been established, so even older. As I said in the video, Basque looks quite weird to us with "z"'s and "x"'s in words, so some linguists think they can prove Pictish might be related to this pre-Celtic Basque-type language. Interesting stuff :)
@Scratchy7929
@Scratchy7929 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Clark Although Basque has completely different haplo-groups of R1b than Ireland / Britain.The Basque language is non-indo-european.Rb1 is definately a Indo-European haplogroup.Basque is a language predominently inherited from a completely different people.A Basque type language may have been spoken all over Western Atlantic coastal regions 5000 years ago, possibly associated with 'J' haplo-group Semitic languages (largest remaining haplogroups in Northern Spain)or 'G' haplo-group Caucasian languages (less haplogroup present today).'I' haplogroup (Norse, North East German Coast, predominently) would have been more present the further north you went.R1b haplogroups almost completely superseded these early haplogroups as they advanced from the East.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 6 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt there was never any by-sea connection between Celtic Iberia and Celtic Britain/Ireland, other than the Phoenicians passing by in search of tin. Seriously: Celts were not sailors and the processes of Celtization in Iberia and Britain&Ireland are almost totally disconnected: they only tie up at the Celtic homeland in West Germany. There was however intense maritime trade between both regions in the pre-Celtic period, the so-called Atlantic Bronze Age and also before, but it was the Celtic conquest of Portugal and Galicia which actually interrupted it.
@daduondaduon5832
@daduondaduon5832 6 жыл бұрын
If you go to Asturias in the north of Spain, you may be surprised by the fair/red hair and pale skin of many people. Astur, king of the region, and generally recognised as an old Celtic area.
@alanfbrookes9771
@alanfbrookes9771 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz The Ancient Britons started arriving in Britain about 12,000 BC, as the ice receded. This was thousands of years before the Indo-European language group existed. Celtic did not exist in those days. The Celts didn't arrive in Britain until about 400 BC. The Ancient Britons MUST have come over from Southern Europe, because, at the time, Northern Europe was covered in ice. It's generally reckoned that they came from Iberia, and that is borne out by DNA.
@kerry2634
@kerry2634 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job!
@Douchkamuzuri
@Douchkamuzuri 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed very much.
@panspermiahunter7597
@panspermiahunter7597 4 жыл бұрын
I was always of the understanding the Picts were quite short in height people and the lived as you said north east Scotland, I would assume I have some Pictish blood through Scottish heritage and not because I am only 5'7" :)
@de-bo2515
@de-bo2515 3 жыл бұрын
They found a skeleton of a pict man and he was 5ft 6" ,I found these 2 links of 2 pict men with facial reconstruction. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39002843 www.realmofhistory.com/2017/07/21/facial-reconstruction-pictish-man-scotland/
@kathleenanderson1353
@kathleenanderson1353 Жыл бұрын
I also heard Picts were short and dark then I heard they were tall light haired like Germatic I'm confused???
@johnmaclagan2263
@johnmaclagan2263 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting i'll pass this onto Dr Anthony Cox in Dundee, he is an expert all things pictish
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I'd really like to hear his opinion on it!
@atilioarchilochus2488
@atilioarchilochus2488 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i drank my coffe before this video not during..im ready for a nap but just woke up.
@james6401
@james6401 4 жыл бұрын
The Gaels in Ireland are also said to have come from Scythia via Greece and Spain. I was watching something here recently about the legends of the Tuatha de Danaan and their history book, the Lebor Gabala
@caolanfeely4317
@caolanfeely4317 4 жыл бұрын
James Hally R that’s myth not history
@james6401
@james6401 4 жыл бұрын
@@caolanfeely4317 I imagine the Tuatha de Danaan part is myth but the Scythia part.... wasn't Irish DNA traced to Egypt or Turkey not so long ago?
@caolanfeely4317
@caolanfeely4317 4 жыл бұрын
James Hally the Scythian were from the steppe not turkey or Egypt not taking into account the massive cultural differences and the Lebor gabala you are referring to the invasion of the Milesian invasion it said that the Milesian were from Spain and they could see Ireland from a tower it isn’t a reliable historical document it is most likely that the Irish and Picts are all just Celtic or the unlikeliest option the Scythian changed their language religion and culture then moved to Ireland of all places
@PureVikingPowers
@PureVikingPowers 2 жыл бұрын
The Picts never wore tattos they wore body painting. You can find evidence for tattooed Vikings, Egyptians and most people that used tattoos but non when it comes to The Picts and bodies have been found well preserved in bogs and such that didn’t have them so they most likely didn’t have tattoos but painted their bodies
@seenoevil420
@seenoevil420 5 жыл бұрын
Geordie and proud ... north of the wall.
@benndanny12
@benndanny12 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilbert, I was just wondering if there would be any credence at all in my idea that the West Country accent, which sounds fairly Irish in its rolling "R" inflections, is a remnant from Q Celtic speaking peasants and farmers who would have remained in the area to work the land for their new P Celtic speaking Lords? Could this hold water or am I speaking rubbish? Thanks.
@samsquanch4201
@samsquanch4201 5 жыл бұрын
I first heard the term ‘Pict’ in the original Conan novels when i was a kid haha! R.E. Howard did base the Conan universe on a pre-European continent so its based somewhat on the truth
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