Who Were the Puritans & Cavaliers?

This video, the second in a series on Jacobitism, explores the historic division between Puritan and Cavalier sensibilities-- a division which was played out in the dramatic events of the English Civil War (1642-1649). Through the lens of Shakespeare's comedy "Twelfth Night," we explore the emergence of two conflicting world-views which led to a brutal war and still manifest themselves in English culture even today.
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[@davidbaker8483]

You deserve far more subscribers. I think the division between Puritan and Cavalier runs through most of us now. It's interesting to me how the ordinary people of Sussex were fairly reluctant to come out on any side .

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

I hold Oliver Cromwell personally responsible for the tininess of my channel. :) Interesting about Sussex… in many ways it was a battle of elites, so maybe many ordinary people kept their heads down.

[@farawayeye8423]

Very interesting. Thank you

[@Coryiodine]

its funny how history repeats itself. It very much reminds me of todays culture of left vs right, right now. Also thanks for these videos i've been binge watching them lately as you give good details into things I can't find anywhere else.

[@heyman5525]

Very well done and very important quotes. I found this out of curiosity concerning Cavaliers, but I've heard other historians touch on the Puritan issue in reference to the Twelfth Night, but not to this extent. As a devout Christian, I've always chafed with the Puritans and the quote about being virtuous in lieu of prohibition confirms my impatience with their idealism.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

They were a very particular subset of Christians- but highly nfluential!

[@willnill7946]

I like your channel, keep making videos, I’m thinking of making some of my own

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

Get involved. The intellectual community on KZbin is really exciting.

[@willnill7946]

Justine Brown's Bookshelf I want to do book analysis. How books project the male or feminine psyche, depending on sex of author.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

@@willnill7946 That sounds promising. I'm glad you use the traditional word "sex" instead of "gender". I think Paglia does that in Sexual Personae. Her bibliography could be useful.

[@willnill7946]

Justine Brown's Bookshelf thank you, i read some comments from you on the distributist channel i think i found interesting

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

@@JustineBrownsBookshelf wasn't the term gender made up by a pedorasist in the 1950s and popularized in the 1980s?

[@chrisyoung2179]

You need to set up a conversation with Yarvin. I bet he’d do it

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

Ooh that would be fun. You’re right-I have seen him happily accept a chat with a small channel before.

[@snoozeyoulose9416]

Good video.

[@willnill7946]

What’s your next video going to be on?

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

I'm going to go into Charles I in more depth. Eventually I'll get to the Jacobite Rebellion :)

[@willnill7946]

Justine Brown's Bookshelf i have more sympathy with the Catholic Church as of late, well the old Catholic Church that is. I think it achieved a bit of harmony between personalities of people rather than being an extreme ideology that Protestants were. I think the reformation was a rebellion against the homosexuality of the Catholic clergy. On the one hand they took peoples money and put it into culture, art, and beauty in general. The Protestant rational male rebelled against this beauty and built these plain striped down churches. They deconstructed the Catholic Church the same way they would spirituality during the enlightenment. I see Chaz I as the classic reactionary. But what could he have done? He was fighting against an ideology that had already infected the dna of the nation.

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

@@willnill7946 no homosexuality was punished harshly back then. The gay clergy is more recent thing with Vatican 2 council which is really a bunch of Freemasons in disguise. The corruption back then during the "reformation" was making money off of indulgences. Yes there were clergy that were breaking there vows to God and therefore need not be priestly.

[@1799to1815]

Am I paranoid or is this all happening again.

[@cloudybeforerain7134]

The Puritans remind me of the contemporary German Green Party.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

Haha yes… I think those types they’re the spiritual inheritors

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

are :)

[@cloudybeforerain7134]

Oh, undoubtedly. I first realised it when the current Chancellor (herself a spiritual Green), discussed the definition of Christmas as, not a time to celebrate the birth of Christ and display goodwill to all men, but a time of fasting and deprivation (she may have meant piety, but I can imagine the Soviet trained Communist may not be familiar with that word). It was echoed just a week later when my then language teacher (also a party member) said she wasn’t going to bother with Christmas that year. Roll on a couple of years and the Greens are putting up a candidate for Chancellor in the coming election: she’s “young”, “dynamic” and incapable of forming a coherent sentence. Their entire manifesto revolves around banning all of the things that make life worthwhile. We call them Die Verbotspartei.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

@@cloudybeforerain7134 It makes me queasy when people abandon our traditions. I remember getting in an argument with a “green” friend because she disapproved of my Christmas tree.

[@cloudybeforerain7134]

@@JustineBrownsBookshelf What was her objection to the tree?

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

Mencius moldbug is a paradox who has insight but only a occasionally also doesn't know history well. He thinks revolution in America was determined by English traitors when reality was France and empires who disliked england.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

Well, I think both contributed. Oliver Cromwell was still celebrated by the Puritan revolutionaries in the American colonies. And I think he’s right to suggest that the English Revolution may have later spread to France-albeit slowly.