According to Jackie's Secret Service agent: "They had a good relationship. I know that the press has sometimes written it otherwise, but that's not really true. The relationship was friendly, more warm than it was cold," Hill says, referring to the oft-repeated narrative that the two women didn't get along. In reality, Hill says they were two young mothers navigating life in the harsh spotlight, who found common ground talking about their kids, and their passion for all things equestrian. "They had small children and they had horses. Two things that they could discuss forever," Hill recalls. As far as the lunch went, Jackie told Hill it was "delightful."
@Vejur90007 ай бұрын
Well said. Jackie was ethereal and cultured, not just beautiful. I’d love to think that they knew they had things in common.
@RobertodelaVega-t3w5 ай бұрын
Yes, The Media was horrible back then as it is today, creating hostilities where there is none in order to sell papers.
@MTknitter224 ай бұрын
We shall never really know the intimate details. We always read several versions of these situations between powerful people. I am sure they enjoyed each other very much as it was not as though they were going to see one another often. I very very much doubt Mrs. Kennedy was quite so personal on this visit.
@iamgermane2 ай бұрын
See the video of the real Jackie Kennedy giving a tour of the White House to cameras. Shy Jackie?? Not so.
@StephenSims-e3y7 ай бұрын
Let’s take a minute to remember that this series is inspired by true events but in truth, these mini side conversations and subplots that occur behind palace walls are constructed fictional narrative. It’s a show. As Jackie reveals her true nature and shyness, she endears herself to Elizabeth, and the two women find a common ground. Elizabeth therefore lets her guard down which is a perfect set up for later in the episode. It makes Jackie’s harsh words even more hurtful. This is called drama. It’s a tv show. Yes they are trying to capture the essence of these people, we need to recognize them, but all these behind the scenes conversations are scripted in a way that weaves together an exciting show to watch. The writing in the crown is wonderful, and the two actresses are brilliant. We recognize the historically famous women and simultaneously go along for the ride of the dramatic narrative. Bravo to the Crown.
@samanthac.3497 ай бұрын
I have to agree. Prince Harry has openly admitted that he’s seen The Crown-I believe it was on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert-but has confirmed that much of this show is fiction.
@DenaInWyo5 ай бұрын
For sure. The side conversations and interactions beyond the basic historical structure likely never happened, but I had the same thought. If Jackie's comments later were actually made, how incredibly unkind. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. Guess is some of it is based on what someone in the household said and it's about 50% true.
@edwardnashen59604 ай бұрын
The actress playing Jackie Kennedy, clearly studied her voice. It's perfectly Jackie.
@thanavitthirachainan2709 ай бұрын
That 'Ah' when she heard the dog just gave me life lol
@jdeveraux10277 ай бұрын
the actress does Jackie's accent wonderfully.
@miamonroe22317 ай бұрын
Better than Natalie did it in my opinion
@yevgeniyaleshchenko8495 ай бұрын
@@miamonroe2231 Yes, as much as I admire Natalie, she tried too hard in/with Jackie and it was strenuous and looking at her I didn't see Jackie, I saw Natalie acting, it was too performative imo
@miamonroe22315 ай бұрын
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 interesting I never looked at like that I may watch it again… after “Mommie Dearest” of course I mean it is Mother’s Day after all
@julianosvonskingrad70094 ай бұрын
I dont really hear any sort of accent. Probably because I am German. She just sounds calm. What's the sign of the accent?
@Pellare4174 ай бұрын
I’m from Boston.. she butchered it… sounds more like she has a cleft palet or stroke victim
@pam06268 ай бұрын
The Queen as portrayed in The Crown never opened herself up this much to anyone outside of her immediate family. She really bonded with Jackie here; they are simpatico in personality and in having younger sisters who want their roles. So it must have hurt her later in the episode when she found out that Jackie called her incurious, unintelligent and unremarkable.
@jessaguilar47479 ай бұрын
Ok, Jackie was an avid student of history. She was smart with a searing personality. She would have known the history.
@Vejur90009 ай бұрын
Agreed. I did like this imaginary meeting of like souls tho.
@falconeshield8 ай бұрын
Jackie was a bit arrogant before....ya know
@variousJnames8 ай бұрын
She most certainly did know it. But she aas gracious enough and well mannered enough to let her host talk and explain the history in their tour. No one likes a know-it-all
@stevenfranks31319 ай бұрын
Love how the Queen casually points out the portrait of King George III to the wife of the American president. Touche, Your Majesty. Touche!!! 😄
@Himmiefan9 ай бұрын
We still won...
@stevenfranks31319 ай бұрын
Yes, after 176 years of British colonial rule, you "won."
@stonedcoldstunna9 ай бұрын
@@stevenfranks3131lizzies in the box now
@ronburgundysmustache67179 ай бұрын
@@stevenfranks3131 cope harder
@stevenfranks31319 ай бұрын
@ronburgundysmustache6717 I would point out that you posted your comment in English....
@PettyShabazz9 ай бұрын
Clare Foy is amazing
@ducksnhell5 ай бұрын
Truly is!
@01Mary026 ай бұрын
I really loved this scene. While it demonstrates the cultural differences between the UK and the USA over the last 250 years, it also demonstrated how two naturally shy women, in the public eye, formed a bit of a bond across oceans. It was nice.
@jonathaneugene25829 ай бұрын
Keep it coming with the crown videos. One of my favorite episodes.
@Wakanda8883 ай бұрын
Who every designed this costumes did a fantastic job because these outfits look just like the ones seen in the pictures of the irl figures in the show. I love when shoes do stuff like this.
@andrewbrendan15799 ай бұрын
Jodi Balfour gives a fine performance as Jacqueline Kennedy, but I think she more resemble's the First Lady's sister, Princess Lee Radziwill.
@nycp19699 ай бұрын
I agree. Lee had a smaller, more delicate frame like this actress. Jackie was very bony and angular. But I like the performance. She captures Jackie's speech pattern and mannerisms well.
@8gagee8 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing!
@mysticalmargaret61058 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@ged3576 ай бұрын
She is way too thin to resemble Jackie !
@InternetDarkLord7 ай бұрын
2:45 Two states named after the queen, Virginia and Maryland.
@garyhutton26544 ай бұрын
Yeah and another person whom never worked in his life Cecil Rhodes ie Rhode island
@JohnKing-do2yc4 ай бұрын
@@garyhutton2654 Cecil Rhodes was born in 1853 and died in 1902. Bit difficult for the then colony of Rhode Island, founded in 1636, to have any correlation.
@RoseRedd-k4b9 ай бұрын
I can't believe that Jackie Kennedy said all that shit about Elizabeth II behind her back at that dinner party, that was low. I also laughed with Elizabeth II tried to fit into that dress to be like slender slim Jackie.
@AmeliaEarharrt8 ай бұрын
U do know it’s a tv show, Right? There is no evidence that Jackie said any of that.
@iamblackthorne8 ай бұрын
She didn't.
@falconeshield8 ай бұрын
@@iamblackthorneSome rumors have truths in them.
@mysticalmargaret61058 ай бұрын
@@falconeshieldYes, but not that one.
@bbybella99377 ай бұрын
So what if she did? Is everyone supposed to like Elizabeth?
@genathome64039 ай бұрын
Clair Foy reminds me of a young Kate Winslet
@stregadisalem7329 ай бұрын
The actress playing Jackie looks more like Lee Radziwill, Jackie’s sister, than Jackie.
@costernocht9 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! She's a dead ringer for her.
@josephpowell69269 ай бұрын
Clare will always be the Queen for me.
@LukeKetchum7003Ай бұрын
Mrs. Kennedy is so beautiful in a way that can't be described in words. 🤩😘
@kristineperdomo218 ай бұрын
wow that actress sounds just like Jackie
@ej30169 ай бұрын
don’t believe this actually happened - great drama but how would two strangers have such an intimate conversation
@sookibeulah93319 ай бұрын
The Queen was skilled in getting people to relax in conversation, it was part of her job. Jackie probably appreciated being able to speak with another woman who really understood the intrusion of the public glare.
@spotite9 ай бұрын
I can believe Jackie Kennedy found comfort in talking to the queen, a woman of a similar stature to herself, which must have been very rare. I think the scene is also meant to highlight certain American traits in comparison to British.
@steblair9 ай бұрын
This conversation did happen. Maybe not word for word but they did go off on their own, and Jackie did mention the topics of their conversation together.
@adgg82506 ай бұрын
You’re right I think this is where the writers were creative in a sense , if two women of this much power and influence were to have a moment like this what would they speak about, and I think this scene gave writers the opportunity to do that.
@MyGrace2You5 ай бұрын
Sometimes, it is much easier to speak to veritable strangers about deeply personal issues because they will listen but have no bias because there is no relationship that would lead to conflicted loyalties.
@bbsteele6717 ай бұрын
The way they became friends so quickly before He was taken from us was so out of the ordinary, but beautiful at the sametime. The Crown is one of my favorite shows & I'm American. I guess the Lil' gay boy I was when I was little always dreamt of finding my King so I'd be the Queen...
@sirblanka9 ай бұрын
I jsut realized the guy who was feeding the dog "Stuart" is Mosely from Dowtown Abbey LOL
@brianheid53949 ай бұрын
No, it isn’t.
@sirblanka9 ай бұрын
@@brianheid5394 yes it is
@brianheid53949 ай бұрын
@@sirblanka check his IMDb page: it isn’t.
@hruaiachawngthu5078 ай бұрын
@@sirblankano it's really not
@sirblanka8 ай бұрын
@@hruaiachawngthu507 yes it is. there must be something wrong with your eyes.
@tarawrr209 ай бұрын
Please post the scene where Elizabeth pretty much gives Jackie and dressing down so to speak.
@Himmiefan9 ай бұрын
That scene was totally unnecessary and never happened.
@lysie95249 ай бұрын
@@HimmiefanMuch of this show never happened. It is historical fiction after all.
@lynscholomite86765 ай бұрын
Jodi Balfour nailed Jackie's accent and her combination of wordly sophistication and vulnerability. I agree, her portrayal far exceeded Natalie Portman's. Besides getting the accent right abd the "look," Jodi is tall and statuesque. Jackie was slightly over 5 feet 8 inches. Natalie was too short, petite, elfin-like which was way, way off. I also agree, her performance was too intense and forced, failing to capture Jackie even in the face of tragedy.
@ZoneZero-sm9jv3 ай бұрын
When she mentioned her sister, I realized the six degrees of separation thing could very well be true. I worked for years at a spa that was in a hotel that was run by the son of the owner, who was once engaged to Jackie's sister. Me - John Cope - Newton Cope - Lee Radziwiłł - Jackie O - the Mfn Queen of England: 6
@allanr91639 ай бұрын
*To whom you turn for protection in love
@Trinitycore07207 ай бұрын
In an alternate timeline where the Soviets got to the moon first, Jackie changed her name to Ellen Waverley became an astronaut fell in love with a poet named Pamala Horton and became the first female president of the United States. For All Mankind references anyone?
@yevgeniyaleshchenko8495 ай бұрын
Being a public person does not automatically mean being a ''strong'' one. Neither does shyness or reserved character (and don't give me this pop psychology crap about ''intro/extraverts'', it's simplistic and largely inaccurate) means weakness or timid nature.
@rhettjanes10564 ай бұрын
I love this because I used to be a very shy person myself but you know how it goes LOL to me three is a crowd but I was forced to become more outgoing more outspoken which did help me I will say that but I kind of would like to go back to how I used to be.
@Carousel58836 ай бұрын
Both of them look nothing like the real people .but they have the voice
@ZekeBurns-om3yt9 ай бұрын
My god, the writing in this scene was clunky. WE GET IT, YOU'RE SHY. Do we have to chat about it all day?
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if The Crown wanted Jackie to come across as arrogant and rude or maybe in real life she was! I'm also tired of hearing that she was "shy". When I think of shyness I associate it with childhood. I think Jackie just had no interest or concern for people and that's why she hid away in the White House just decorating it to her own taste and maintaining her pricey wardrobe. I used to be a big fan of Jackie Kennedy now whenever I read about her I just see her as selfish, stubborn and spoiled. There is no "shyness" here just detachment and Jackie's own lack of compassion. It's as if she refused to get INVOLVED for others...
@destinywhite20639 ай бұрын
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcJackie spoke to the Queen as a real person. Elizabeth wasn’t used to that. I don’t believe Jackie was rude. Jackie did what Jackie HAD to do being First Lady. Some First Ladies are social, others are not. Hillary was very social and Laura Bush wasn’t. So don’t blame Jackie, some things you don’t realize till you’re in those situations.
@Victory_to_Ukr9 ай бұрын
2 itérations of the same topic actually have a point. First Elisabeth is unimpressed, like who are you to compare yourself to the Pitt. And second time, when Jackie insists on her shyness topic, they get into details and Quinn sees the person behind the beautiful gown.
@nycp19699 ай бұрын
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I agree that we use the word shy with regard to children more than adults, but adults can definitely be introverted, and I think Jackie was. I think she interacted with people in her own way. She was a book editor. She was interested in other people's stories and helped them tell them. As for her White House project, this was actually the first time a First Lady had an official project or cause. The concept was new, so there was no comparison to be made to projects that would have brought her into contact with regular Americans, like Michelle Obama with Move On. And as for her wardrobe, all First Ladies have expensive clothes. They promote American designers and they're wealthy women in general.
@hofhofandaway9 ай бұрын
Sometimes subtext is powerful in furthering a story. Reading between the lines is important. Try it sometime 👍
@tokidokisimmer17509 ай бұрын
What’s up with the president’s wife accent?
@uwbadger799 ай бұрын
She had a very high sounding accent. I think the actress actually toned it down a bit. Look for a video of her speaking and you'll see.
@fairyblu69299 ай бұрын
I think they hired a British actress and had her imitate an American accent. But the accent must've slipped at points.
@tokidokisimmer17509 ай бұрын
She sounds a bit Australian to me.
@andrewbrendan15799 ай бұрын
@@uwbadger79 Elsewhere on You Tube there's an interview with Jacqueline Kennedy while she was still First Lady and also there's her tour of the White House. Mrs. Kennedy had that American, East coast, upper-class acccent. I don't know if it exists as much as it used to.
@nycp19699 ай бұрын
Jacqueline had a distinctive whispery speaking style and her accent itself was an upper class accent that you don't really hear today. Now upper class Americans sound like everyone else.
@greeneyedsoutherngirl64683 ай бұрын
Apparently, Jack “turned to” a LOT of people 🤔😂
@kristinskennar92066 ай бұрын
You know that’s not Matthew Goode, right? It’s Matt Smith.
@DerryPope8 ай бұрын
Oh dear, Jackie was written as the host of a pity party here.
@rescune40212 ай бұрын
This reminds me we were robbed of when the queen met Marilyn Monroe
@jtidema4 ай бұрын
Bad title... it's not "Whom you turn to for..." it's "Who you turn to for..." or "To Whom do you turn for..." Sorry, but gramatical errors just drive me nuts and distract me from the content of the video. However, it was a great scene. Love Claire Foy in everything. I've never seen the actor who played Jackie Kennedy but she's very good.
@Lucy-f2o8 ай бұрын
HMTQ (late) was masterful. The perfect diplomat. Racist?? I think not.
@ariochiv7 ай бұрын
An alternate universe in which Elizabeth II is much prettier than Jackie Kennedy.
@Mojo-vu4hr25 күн бұрын
such a scene with Indira Gandhi also must be shown in this series!
@dianamartinsofc9 ай бұрын
¡Hola, buenas tardes!
@pdruiz20059 ай бұрын
So this is BEFORE the Queen had to dispatch her sister as a traveling vaudeville act to get LBJ to disburse billions to rescue the British economy. Princess Margaret with her vulgar limericks was the belle of the ball at LBJ's White House, and those crucial billions in aid came to the rescue. That's definitely the undercurrent that you see between the two ladies here--the Queen had to impress the only two people worth impressing in the world, the U.S. President and his wife. And she finds the role a bit awkward since it's almost always the other way around in her life. LOL...
@Himmiefan9 ай бұрын
Brought her down a peg or two.
@nycp19699 ай бұрын
Assuming it's historically accurate, yes, Margaret was the perfect emmissary to charm "Colonel Cormpoke and his porkchop" as Jackie allegedly referred to LBJ and Lady Bird. That was a very fun episode.
@MARTINA-gc3tq8 ай бұрын
WHO YOU TURN TOO…..NON WHOM
@joiisler89869 ай бұрын
I will have to say, this conversation never happened. This is by far the worst depiction of JACKIE KENNEDY I have ever seen (or heard). Accent is way off.
@buddhidev78775 ай бұрын
So is the pedigree important?
@xs100869 ай бұрын
HMTQ might have a minor drinking problem judging from the dog names
@anireseegam61285 ай бұрын
What an insult to jackie
@ninaantonoff64116 ай бұрын
Jackie was horrible, she never thought in a million years her hateful comments would ever get back to the Queen. And then made up the excuse that her and jacks private physician gave them special cocktail of vitamins . 🤦♀️
@LisaImhoff-v8q9 ай бұрын
I love this series, all the actors...all...except the dress the queen chose to wear. Unflattering and ugly especially next to jaqueline
@lilachodan49419 ай бұрын
Agree
@iamblackthorne8 ай бұрын
There is a photograph with Jackie in which the Queen is wearing this dress. At the time, it wouldn't have been considered necessarily ugly, but certainly rather conservative.
@JimMac235 ай бұрын
Jackie Kennedy was not beautiful. That bony face and those wide set eyes. But Queen Elizabeth was very beautiful. As was Princess Margaret. But they didn't get their looks from their mother. She was, to put it a bit charitably, rather plain.
@riverx68025 ай бұрын
Jackie was not this cute 😒.
@智美伊東-d5h8 ай бұрын
あの2人は、自分たちのしきたりをくずさなかった。 伊東智美MI6とCIA
@katehobbs20086 ай бұрын
That actress is horribly thin.
@slsmith52678 ай бұрын
Jackie was absolute trash 🗑 compared to the beautiful queen who dedicated her whole life to service.
@ChuffedLemon3 ай бұрын
They were both socialites, and no one honestly cares.
@kennethmotolenich98206 ай бұрын
Sorry Brits our lady is far superior
@shera43762 ай бұрын
No way....your wrong. Queen Elizabeth had her beat everytime ❤