Whose Rank Is It Anyway? - The Pilot Episode

[@djbubblegum9975]

17:36 "those pngs that you worship, those jpegs, what is it really worth?" coming for the ranked community AND the gacha community with that question lol

[@muckdriver]

The gacha pngs are more real than tekkens ranks.

[@monkeplaysgames7049]

@@muckdriver nah they both just numbers and pixels at the end of the day

[@muckdriver]

Yo someone said they'd quit drinking if the kuma azucena match was above purple rank. Can we track that man down. God bless kaiser's scuff.

[@chronellion2609]

I simply CANNOT understand how a format so simple can be so devious and so bewildering to watch. It really feels like you could show the same clip ten times back to back and reveal different ranks every time. Modern Tekken is truly wonderful :)

[@doogies]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@gamejtv]

This is more cruel than Will It Kill. Congratulations, I didn't think it was possible

[@nabillun]

a lot wider variance in guesses than 50/50😂

[@IAmEnormous]

Zero, I got zero points, for the whole thing. I'm Tekken King, 1900 MMR on wavu. It don't matter, none of this matters.

[@HoopleBogart]

is that a ATHF Carl reference at the end or i'm just stoned. either way nice moves.

[@NormsRespecter]

I don't think you should entirely diminish those because they are good accomplishments. I'm still really new to fighting games and I think plenty of people sell themselves short. However, yes, the goal is to get better and have fun (even if you're playing professionally), not to get the Tekken God or whatever badge.

[@muckdriver]

Using wavus system I went from fighting a 1000mmr lars to a 1900-2000 bryan, within the same 24hrs all in this order 1200 Hwor, 1800 Xiao, 2000 King. This was all in green and orange ranks. I know prowess isn't the best indicator but they might as well use that to determine rank at this point. It is so impossible to learn this game as someone who prefers to take it slow and steady.

[@pocketstoosumo]

whats this wavu thing you guys are talking about

[@ryaneucacion8764]

​​@@pocketstoosumo search wavu wank. It's a more accurate ranking than tekken prowess that uses classic elo rank with ranked replay history for each of your chars

[@sylascole5254]

Tekken 8 tried to lower the skill floor and just blew up the building entirely

[@MrWoodsman]

Loved this. Hope the trend of FGC gambling shows continues, it's a banger concept. That Beginner rank Leroy really fucked me up lol

[@Frailty8]

Tekken is one of the only games that I can lose a round to some dude who barely knows how to play. And then double perfect him the next two rounds with knowledge checks

[@I_recommend_suicide]

The amount of ranked points you can generate by labbing one nonsense cornball setup, forcing it every round with your heat, and declining the rematch on anyone who figures it out is pretty wild. I don't know how anyone takes it seriously

[@GuiltyBystander8]

This is low ranks in T7 and older games but very common now in T8 across all ranks except Tekken God.

[@Frailty8]

@@GuiltyBystander8 it was actually less common in 7 because there were less comeback mechanics to worry about. The only thing you had to look out for was rage really.

[@GuiltyBystander8]

@@Frailty8 yea I agree mate

[@Boro87]

​@@Frailty8t7 rewarded defense, noobs only know offense, in t8 it doesnt matter, its a joke

[@emocelot]

To be fair. You can't even get demoted under yellow ranks, so anything bellow it doesn't really mean much.

[@doogies]

okay

[@Robstafarian]

That explains a lot.

[@PaladinMika]

Come on lets call them gold ranks so I feel a little better about being Vanquiser

[@Mistouze]

Lmao 10 minutes in and you got me thinking that Daisuke might have been cooking with the tower in Strive 🤔

[@cam0x195]

Before his time

[@naiustheyetti]

tower is so goated.

[@mothballmouth]

Man Majin out here hosting a fgc gameshow to rival sajam, idk which I'm more hyped to see.

[@crustman5982]

Dudes still eating the alley kick vortex in purples lol

[@xavierrobertson6266]

Throwing in an Eddy mirror match was evil 😂

[@YourTamedLion]

Bro, Tekken 8 ranks are by far the least valuable and least meaningful they have ever been in Tekken. That is part of the problem with this game. Plugging was on a historical high during the first months and people are one-and-doning like crazy. Also they devalued too many ranks by giving away warriors for free. So now even in blue you have shit gameplay like that Lee and Ling. There are not enough ranks until the Gold ranks. Also the prowess matchmaking System gave people who only play 1 character a matchmaking boost. The game and it's ranking system are fucked and too many new players are pluggers and one-and-doners. Until bamco fixes the System and then does a hard reset, ranks mean nothing. In tekken 7 it was bad already but still was better in terms of system, Rank distribution and plugging behaviour +less one-and-doning.

[@therrfuin7897]

this is great but definitely makes a point about the complete lack of player expression in 8. Theyve made so few moves for every character incredibly strong and the other 80+ moves completely useless so why would any player even bother learning an entire moveset when its obvious 6 moves will do the trick all the way to G.O.D

[@pokemondude45]

I love how every clip is a curveball. Guessing ranks really just feels like throwing darts in the dark. And glad there weren't clips from Sajam's tourney. Lots of matches there were real curveballs when you looked at ranks.

[@TheKazuma410P]

8 points, I completely forgot about sleeper agents in Beginner, forgot whiffs and learned even high levels will throw out something unsafe to get momentum back. That one hopkick though...

[@tjm_tk]

i feel like tekken 8 having no demotions in the early ranks makes this harder lol.

[@FortuneSan]

This format is sick, do more

[@civisj]

The steve at the end with the raw rage art really caught me off guard and I guessed way too low, really fun series I hope you continue this

[@TwofacePL]

That Kuma was Tekken god? I would expect him to be Fujin in T7

[@axsprime]

I got one point but I'm the type of person who's stuck at low rank in nearly every fighting game that I play so my two frames of reference are "I can take them" and "I' don't stand a chance". I don't hate it, I could spend more time actually looking at replays, watching/reading guides and watching high level matches... but dammit I want to play video games!

[@doogies]

It will be more enjoyable if you invest in improving, but if you are having fun now that's cool too!

[@bugglemagnum6213]

another point besides the smurf leroy, is that any high level player can make several mistakes in a round, and sometimes low level plays can pull out crazy clutches by mashing, 1 round doesnt tell you enough information, but i called the eddy and drag mirrors being green because they had no custom, thats another way to tell

[@Jamazed]

Man, I can only tell apart two Tekken skill levels which is pros doing crazy movement and super safe, optimal stuff versus everything else. The everything else Tekken all looks the same to me!

[@yummyos]

Obama plays the role of Drew Carey wonderfully

[@cam0x195]

Drew Obama

[@Bone8380]

@@cam0x195 Drewbama Carried

[@sloth6962]

"I don't make the rules" bro pls lmao These are kicking my ass. The Leeroy vs Feng one absolutely smoked me

[@mrboss3952]

surely u make another episode of this, actually soo good. maybe limit it to warrior and above since losses are worth nothing until that point. either way funny video g 😂

[@doogies]

Thanks for watching man

[@Kammithekiller]

idk who the strawman is, nor do I understand their perspective...but this was still fun (it did feel pretty salty sometimes lmfao) someone below posted it better than I could- watching a portion of a round w no context or resource display tells you VERY little. with meter info this would make more sense as a callout to the hypothetical antagonist(shoutouts to Meg Griffin for that one), but its a more fun video without it

[@TheJackOfFools]

This just reinforced my assertion that fighting games need actual SBMM, like with an ELO/MMR. They need to take notes from Blizzard's 1v1 ranking and matchmaking.

[@fortidogi8620]

even that barely means much imo

[@treehann]

I think it’s funny how game designers have so much hubris they think they can come up with better ranked systems than ELO. It seems they are underestimating the task. Btw Tekken Lord is just Tekken God in countries where they can’t say “God”. So it’s not a valid rank to show

[@doogies]

HUBRIS

[@wc999]

we need more episodes of this pronto

[@maketeamplay649]

Shit's mostly hard because there's like 1500 fucking ranks like god damn bro why are there 2 of the same purple ranks with a blue in-between

[@bloosnafu132]

If this doesn't become a monthly show like will it kill, we riot!!

[@ryder4313]

The hwo vs kaz one is very hard to tell cuz every hwo player be doing the strings

[@FrankenSteinsGate]

Love this series already, definitely excited for more. Gotta see if I can do better than 19 points next time

[@doogies]

see you on stream or on the next ep!

[@skull19hm]

this is harder than playing actual tekken

[@notsonic]

The weirdest part is I knew that was Kaizur

[@sant6182]

This format is great, chat playing gives it a lot of charm. You should try this with SF6, maybe I could get some more points XD

[@doogies]

Sf6 is prob the only other game you can do this with. Definitely something I want to try

[@KTP200]

i guessed correctly on the first match and tapped out immediately. i one and done'd this game, i'm goated

[@KingVizual]

I got 11 points. This is so messed up, please do more.

[@paxcaster]

after being SO wrong so many times, i feel my brain expanding

[@talbotsolenberger4434]

This is a very fun video, good shit. That said, I've seen people do this exact same thing with games that have a ton of skill expression, and everyone is wrong literally every time. I don't think this is a valid "gotcha" to have a guess be way off because by nature, we're only seeing a snapshot of a player's skill. We are all inherently inconsistent. Sometimes you play above your rank, sometimes you play below it. On average, any player that plateaus at a rank is deserving of it, for better or worse. Just because they pop off one round doesn't mean their rank is totally unrelated to their skill. And maybe I totally misunderstood your point. I'm definitely not infallible. But like I said before, I did really enjoy the game. Thanks for the vid, obama. btw, I got 6 points

[@goiflin5056]

Yeah taken out of context it can be hard. There's some tells though. Some of them are glaringly obvious. I think I missed three of those guesses because I just tend to lump everyone in the same rank if they clearly aren't really comfortable with their character yet, so it's hard to tell. I'm sure the same goes for people higher than me, when they consider other skillsets. It was like this in 7. You can have a round that makes you look TGO but you're just another Fujin most of the time.

[@reinsmano]

Idk, I feel like watching a set or full match you’d easily be able to tell

[@WastePlace]

14 points by the end, but holy shit I didn’t know what was happening half the time lmao those ranks are all over the place

[@specialbrick84]

7 points. I'd have never claimed to be good at this before trying, but man, way more all over the place than I'd have guessed

[@brinkbeats]

video was insane... can't believe it. got it so wrong, for each matchup

[@BigDaddyWes]

Bring back death matches. Limiting sets to BO3 in every mode except custom lobbies stinks. I have to send a friend request to someone, wait for them to accept it, and fhen invite them to a lobby for us to play more matches. There's no reason to limit set length. There's an argument for prevention of win trading/ELO manipulation in ranked, but playing the same person with the same character for extended periods of time is the best way to learn the game. The new training mode is great, but it is not the same as a death match.

[@NotSnapdragon]

I don't know enough about Tekken to guess but this was still entertaining to watch!

[@doogies]

learn the game even a little and it will make watching /playing this kinda game way more fun for you

[@darkheart9668]

11:04 i can safely say I guessed righ on this match. The way the Kazuya fell for the heat smash made me think so

[@masterofdoom5000]

10 points, came real close most of the time but overshot it. Some fellas in them low ranks really do got their movement, combos and blocking down....impressive honestly.

[@theopulentone1650]

As a Fujin rank I can tell anyone that it's not unusual for blue ranks to mash powercrush on round start, it's actually to be expected .lol

[@KobunLaunch]

Feels fucked up saying this... but i have newfound respect for MMR... we need that... bad...

[@KobunLaunch]

also using kuma feels like cheating LMAO, good gameplay of that character has always looked ass in every tekken

[@onlyonehere555]

I got fucked up on these, ended with 6 points total. Good stuff, love to see more of these.

[@Donte0930]

Hella fun. Loved every minute of it

[@liviekumori]

So satisfying seeing a Leroy beat a Feng and a Kuma packing an Azucena.

[@DeepCDiva]

I got 19 points but the psychological damage from some of my mistakes was NOT worth it. ...yet i still crave for more.

[@grant5758]

I know I was cooked when I thought a blue rank game was destroyer.

[@TheProswagonist]

One thing I've picked up on is red-blue ranks all look the same to me 😂

[@a_shrxydud]

i fought a neon blue dragunov as a cavalry rank and they had to have either been a veteran who just got tekken 8 or a smurf. I got 8 points, 5 of which were from the dragunov mirror. most surprising was king vs kuma where my orange rank king friend is similar

[@doogies]

Smurfing is def an issue with this system

[@josepartida1711]

dude i don't even know about ranks anymore ranked is crazy

[@YVNGNAMEK]

I got 11 and ion even play tekken fr u can really tell by what they choose to punish and how they punish it

[@FrancisEctomorphe]

I got 17 points and i feel like i did really fucking good, some of those matches make no fucking sens (shout out that beginner leroy that guy was craked)

[@Yeshua_is-Cool]

Or on crack

[@CurlyBoiyohFGG]

Yo love this type of content! Reminds me of Harstem, a StarCraft 2 content creator that guesses ranks with pro players, its called Ranked Roulette

[@Mordecai_Pielord]

19/55 LETS GO, I CAN SEE 🤓 but for real, that Hwyorang v Kazuya threw me for a loop cause I swear on my life I thought they were Tekken God 💀 this is amazing though, please continue this series 🙏

[@AirLancer]

0:34 I wish people could understand this. It's basically the worst way to play the game, especially if you want to keep a full head of hair.

[@DemonBlanka]

If I keep betting Vanquisher I'm bound to get it right once.

[@soltrashman654]

This is why ranked tekken is so good to watch random replays. I retired from ranked after shinryu lol

[@MikeNmurdoc]

Michael Murray gone report this vid LMFAO. Too powerful

[@kenshisanki]

You could definitely do Who's floor is it anyway, for Strive

[@someminorities]

9 points out of a possible 55. we’re so in there

[@MarkRopern8strength]

Please do more of these videos! I got mixed at the Leroy vs Feng round.

[@Gamingwithgleez]

This is funny as hell haha.

[@zexyswami1994]

Good Show Sir Obama Good show❤🎉, this was a fun topic to analyze and discuss, i got none right 😂

[@oldfashionedbc]

the concept was fun, hope you do more!

[@El_Bukis]

You could have told me the Asuka player was Recruit, and I would've believed because he's the only Asuka besides SLine I've seen play like that much of a nut while doing weird ass custom combos.

[@omegakyle_fgc]

I said out loud to myself "that's Kaizur" when Kuma and Azu popped up. Still went with Raijin lmao I didn't believe...

[@ividboy7616]

I cant believe Majin would just lie to people like this

[@grammygramgram5288]

Man, I got 4. At this point I need to see a doctor.

[@complexstupidity9758]

I need to be thinking diamond 2 players are 1700 mr players on some episode at some point

[@rook9309]

You can confuse low level play with low level rank, but you will rarely confuse high level play with low rank. There’s some exception, to that obviously.

[@Cogbyrn]

Here's what I learned from this video: I'm better at Tekken 8 than I think, and I'm worse at Tekken 8 than I realize. Huge.

[@Voxnola]

9 points... I'm a Xiaoyu main, I knew that the second match was Raijin almost immediately 😭

[@Brass_Heathen]

18 pts outta a possible 60.... point proven sir. I got shmixed early but then made a couple hard reads somewhere in the center.

[@andyboots_acta7838]

6…. I love this game so much. Please keep it going lol

[@doogies]

More on the way!

[@andyboots_acta7838]

@@doogies you’re the 🐐!!

[@JustSoji]

The very first one I managed to get 5 points. Every other game was maddening. I guessed Yellow ranks for Fujin players and guessed purple on combatants

[@vaibhavsrivastava9417]

I got 16 points, I got that download

[@Vlauer94]

23 points, I'll be awaiting my FGC diploma in the mail

[@pedroscoponi4905]

I gave up guessing after going 5 rounds with a big ol 0 LOL this is so funny, I love it

[@JohnnyExtreme]

Too fun! Got 17 points after getting goose eggs on the first 4 clips. 💪

[@doogies]

Nice job!

[@El-Burrito]

I made 3 points and then I checked out. These ranks are bullshit!

[@El-Burrito]

I lied, I kept playing and made another 3 points, thanks NerdJosh!

[@firstdegreesports5120]

"Yourself and myself included" 😂

[@russdellapenna]

I got three points for being off a rank on one match. Bananas, but then it makes me question how am I supposed to know that the effort im putting in is bearing fruit and I truly am improving? I thought setting a goal for Tekken Emporer would prove it to myself but I could not be less convinced now. I guess I'm lucky I've been able to find some communities and run lobbies with them to just get better over stressing about the damn JPeg that means nothing anymore.

[@SUREILLBYTE]

I got slow roasted, no seasoning type cooked. Good god.

[@bruceMooseman]

1:00 the only issue i have with this comment is that very much depends on your own experience.. even if your generally a knowledgeable gamer, there will always be games, styles or skills you value more and pick up on better.. your own biases have a big affect on judging a game and a players level .. i dont like 2d fighters so when i watch matches, although i know a little bit, i will always miss small things that show skill etc ... Some games to me just look like the players are just mashing! But thats most likely down to my lack of certain knowledge and interest than the game not being skillful etc (and im talking watching pros playing) its like the difference between call of duty and gears of war.. how on earth can u say which is more skillfull or better,? Yes u will have your own opinion because of what u prefer but that doesn't make it true! 😂 I would say its gears because i like movement and mastering certain controls etc, but someone else would say cod as the gun play (snap shooting etc) and aiming is faster in some ways... Whos to actually say?

[@Call555JackChop]

I knew that Eddy mirror perfectly

[@doogies]

one of us

[@jsblanc6169]

I just saw the second clip and closed video. I'm so maaaad 😭😂😭

[@Franklojpg]

That's it, I'm quitting ranked 😂

[@taffeloo]

12, I'm not gonna lie it's really really hard to tell

[@dewpliss]

fun show, i got 9 points. got the first yoshimitsu one right because they played exactly like me lmao. would love to watch more of these they're funny as hell.

[@mgbrad5018]

I got 14 points total. I thought I would've been way better at this...

[@geosmi24]

I got 12 points, but with the amount of second guessing I did I swear I could have easily gotten 0 lmao