45-70 Govt - 100 Yard Ammo Test!!!

[@jays9611]

you know theres just something special about a round when people still use and talk about it when its 150 years old,

[@Emptypockets51]

True that.

[@7mm-08]

Oh yeah

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

45-70 is the only "Government" you can rely on.

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

@Adam Chapman It's a great caliber. Wide variety of loads and power levels available even if you don't reload.

[@ClinttheGreat]

Shooting the 45-70 is like opening the whole can of whoop-ass.

[@MrTacklebury]

I've got a .45-70 Guide Gun, a .45-70 Double rifle and a .45-70 single shot. love em all!

[@chilkat_river]

I've been looking for a .45-70 Double rifle. What do you have? I'm hoping Henry will make one.

[@MrTacklebury]

@@chilkat_river I used an over-under tri-star shotgun with two 45-70 barrel inserts and a set of truglo vent tryin sights.

[@bluebeastsrt]

You can beat me with a scope. But I just can’t bring myself to put a scope on my Henry side loader. The things a work of art.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

Irons at 100 yards isn't too bad. I've got a cheap muzzle loader with a large fiber optic sight that blocks 8 inches of the target at 100 yards. It has a 24 inch barrel too. I was still able to shoot a 3 inch group with it.

[@NC-xk1eg]

Anxious to see if your 1895 likes my choice: Hornady 325 grainers. I've put 3 through 1 ragged hole at 100 yards more than once. (Scoped of course)

[@keiththompson5588]

I sure do like a 45-70. The one I have was my dad's it sure does bring back a lot of good memories every time I shoot it

[@justinweaver8787]

Hold on to it ur if it gets gone u'll always always miss n regret it.

[@nova68cutie]

@@justinweaver8787. Amen to that.

[@blainepaulus2230]

I took a Marlin 1895 guide gun white tail hunting. I used the Hornady 325grn FTX round. I sighted in at 100yrds. I took a 150yrd shot on a big buck thinking there would be minimal drop. I was wrong. The shot dropped quite a bit and was not clean. I had to track the dear for about a mile. Barrel length, ammunition choice, and proper load testing at all ranges are critical. With a short barreled .45-70, 50yrds makes a surprising difference.

[@NoSmileification]

Did you not practice with the round first? That's incredibly irresponsible and just plain stupid. Plug the round into any ballistic calculator and even with a 18 or 19" barrel it would only be roughly a 4" drop at 150 yard with a 100y zero. You should have made that shot with a little compensation. A 125y zero would have been point blank +/- 2.5" out to 150y, and a 150y zero would put you at 3.2" out to 175y. All better zeros than 100y.

[@jwzerbe]

My Marlin GBL is perfectly happy with the 325gr FTX. Roughly 1 to 1.5" groups at 100yds. My dad's early ported 1895G would clover leaf with them. I just found out the hard way not to leave a spotting scope on the bench when touching off a ported, short barreled 45-70.

[@billsutherland7486]

Fort Scott, huh?! Yeah, this ammo’s not cheap. When you figure a “long shot” of 200 yards, a .625” group at 100 yards is necessary. I love that a 300 grain slug is hardly effected by a cross wind, and it will drop a bear or wolf in their tracks. Thanks for this video, cause I’m switching to Fort Scott 300 grains from now on. Thanks again, Bill from Minnesota.

[@nickrussell8029]

Fort Scott’s TUI makes a massive wound cavity. They have videos posted when’re they show the gel block opening top and bottom from the shock wave.

[@theowenssailingdiary5239]

Are you saying its hardly affected by wind because its heavy, or its hardly affected by wind because its going quicker than heavier fir caliber bullets?

[@brucemoriarty9964]

Great show. Love the 45-70. Tried and true all American. I only have 3 different calibers for rifles .... 30-30 , 30-06 and 45-70. Thanks for ya hard work making these honest and accurate shows. And have a great day.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Scott

[@bobbymccarty2634]

I have the same

[@jeffreybean5363]

It's always good to see the leverguns out.. especially the 4570..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@mikerichards1264]

Fantastic video! Good ammo comparison. Fort Scott Munitions is awesome! Whitetail, elk, and moose here we come. Good work!

[@matttyreeoutdoors]

In my experience, I've never seen good grouping results with the Fusions out of any gun in any caliber. My Marlin 336 35 Rem love the 200gr LeverEvolution FTX rounds

[@lucyloose6727]

Love it... 41 grains of 4198. And a 405 grain soft tip... mine will shoot 1 inch or less time after time..

[@reaperhunter7297]

The 250 grain Hornady and the fort Scott ones did the best. And that was some amazing shooting!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@Dave_Nichols]

a gun and caliber thats been on my want list for a long time

[@Mark-uq9km]

Do not hesitate. Get one ASAP. The new Ruger Marlins should be available any minute now. I have a Henry H010 I would like to sell. It does not have the side loading gate. It's a great carbine, handy as all get out but I just don't care for it. I do covet my Marlin 1895, however.

[@garywood2137]

A lot of people say putting a scope on a lever rifle takes away from the historical look. Personally I think if those who used them back in the 1800's had the technology and ability to mount a scope on their lever guns we would be looking at a different history.

[@pappy374]

They 100% had access to telescopic sights back in the late 1800s.

[@shockwave6213]

@@pappy374 Sure, but they were fragile, huge and expensive as hell. That's why the tang mounted peep sights were so popular. The tang sight offers 90% or more of the accuracy benefit of a telescopic sight, but were much cheaper and durable.

[@pappy374]

@@shockwave6213 Oh, sure. I'm just saying that people shouldn't say that lever guns shouldn't have a scope because it "wasn't historically accurate", because that is not correct. I say put whatever you want on whatever you want and have fun.

[@jackaustin3576]

Once I reached nearly 80 years old I had a scope put on my 1998 Miroku Winchester 1886 in 45-70....I got my first 45-70 about 1965....

[@chopperdeath]

They need to make the brass "Quigly" scope.

[@andrewchaney3399]

Thanks for spending the time and money to do this! I JUST got a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 last year. Sighted in at 50 yards and took a small buck last year with it. Passed on some better deer at 80 yards. Need to get mine cited in at 100!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Andrew

[@TheUrbanSentinelChannel]

I've had a Marlin 1895 for several years.... gives me giggles every time I shoot it. I've never regretted buying it. I am thinking of a red dot vs scope because it's also my mid range defensive gun.

[@adamcornell6738]

Works great! I have a Sig Romeo5 on my 444P

[@raleighthomas3079]

Great idea. Lightweight and fast on target.

[@JohnnyBallou]

Yes! Have a Armsom (both-eyes--open, glow-dot) on mine for defense! Great video & comments!

[@crazydiggity]

Rarely do you ever have to shoot more than once at a deer so that first shot you had with each type of ammo is your impact point as you will be shooting a cold gun. Until I had private property where i could take my time at the range i never realized just how much point of impact could change after just one shot. I have a 450 bushmaster that is dead on and i mean dead on at 100 yards on a cold shot but subsequent shots shifted 4 inches high and 3 inches left. Once i could wait 15 minutes between shots i could see that first shot was the correct shot and the rest were a warm barrel grouping. Just something to think about.

[@vonhurtig2]

I've had this huge problem the last couple of months. Not until some weeks ago i figured out why my 26 inch CB wasn't accurate. I kept sending 5+ bullets through a smoking hot barrel. Mounting a peepsight on the receiver made it even worse. The deviation difference from heat is absolute massive... At 100 yards, it could be as much as half a yard, sometimes more. For my 1895 SBL, it shoots everything gladly, round after round. But the CB is sensitive, needs time to cool off. To make things worse, it only eats expensive ammo. It hates handloads no matter what powder or bullet weight. You have to sight in a rifle at the temperature it should be shot. More likely a cold barrel, maybe even a follow up shot. Let it cool, clean it out. Shoot as you would have when you are gonna hunt.

[@merlinnorris817]

I personally have had great luck with those evolution bullets in 30-30 That 250 grain load might do better on deer Enjoyed the video as always

[@joeymangum1723]

Hey brother it's more so of a cold bore shot than a fouling shot. The temperature of the barrel effects the impact of the shot by how tight the barrel grabs the projectile and with hot and cold it it expands and contracts. So the longer you weight between shots the impact will be different. So when you stop between different ammo types and talk then fire one it will hit in a different spot than the next 2or3 that are going down a hot barrel. Same thing of you set And shoot 50 rounds your barrel will get really hot and your groups will open up. Love the videos keep up the great work man love it!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Isn't a cold bore shot I don't think in just 10 seconds 🤔

[@skiphinson8620]

Love that .45/70! Mine is a New England Firearms Handi-Rifle. I handload mine with the 300 grain jhp for hunting rounds and when I reached 2000 FPS with my handloads, the groups just magically fell into a cloverleaf pattern and to me, it’s still a mild pleasant load to shoot. All you gotta do is shoot that big bore a few times and see how effective it is on game and you’ll be hooked!

[@wmcwane01]

I baught my father in law the Henry 45-70. I gave him a primary arms red dot. Works like a champ with his old eyes

[@emoryking5278]

I bought the first moden 45-70 in 1973 by Marlin. It did not come legal in Ohio till years later when the state authorized the straight wall cartriges I have bagged 4 Deer and here is my handload, A 3oo Gr. half Jacketed hollow point, 54 Grs. of IMR 4895 AND a cci LARGE RIFLE MAGNUM PRIMER, GOT IT DONE WITH ONE SHOT EVERY-TIME

[@_JimS]

It's not that people don't like the scope itself, it's that some don't like a scope on a lever action. This peeve is carried on by people that were blessed with good eyesight their entire life. The lever action purists that feel a scope on a lever action is like mustard on cereal. Fouling shots are for a recently cleaned barrel and yes, they are important, especially when testing expensive ammo for accuracy. Going forward I'd use the not-so-good-shooting ammo here for your "fouling' shots after cleaning your bore before a hunt. I'm more impressed with the newer Marlin's ability, made a believer out of me that this lever rifle can shoot. Good stuff WTW....thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Jim

[@obedcasillas3404]

Love my Marlin 45 70 GBL. Shoots multiple different brands just fine.

[@markhansen3111]

I own 2 1895 rifles. I like both of them. The 1895 is a very good big game rifle. I would not hesitate to use it on any big game in North America. It can be loaded to be mild or wild. Very versatile cartridge. A reloaded can really take advantage of the options.

[@harleyvulcancobra4.619]

That is astonishing how different brands of ammunition can be that far apart on the target! Some at the top ,some at the bottom and some in the middle! All I can say is ,I’ll be dogged!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup

[@seventhson27]

That is why, when hand loading, you "work up" the load and try different brand and weight of powder. All the "factory" loads have differing powder, load wight, and bullet. Rifle barrels have a "vibration harmonics." and EVERY barrel is different. It is important to find a load that most closely matches the barrel.

[@danhandke5012]

I took 2 deer in Minnesota this year with my Henry 45 -70 . One running at 80 yards and he only went 30 yards. Second one was at 90 yards and she dropped in her tracks. My bing bang loves the Hornady lever evolutions. Go figure. 😆

[@sammartinez8084]

Great show thanks my friend

[@stevep7608]

Love my 45-70. Just remember that the length of the FTX brass is shorter than standard 45-70.

[@joelmorgan1871]

I noticed the winchester super x I got for my marlin in 2020 was a lot thinner than some of my older winchester brass.

[@otm646]

Do you know what the exact dimensional differences are?

[@stevep7608]

I don’t recall off the top of my head

[@phillipheslin8329]

The brass needs to be .060" shorter when used with Hornady FTX bullets. If you reload you have to keep that brass separate from your regular 45-70 brass.

[@What_Fred_Said]

I heard the Lee factory crimp die won’t work with them also. I have an H&R single shot so I don’t think I’ll need it anyway. If I do I will buy a different brand die.

[@rjwintl]

with my Marlin 1895 Classic , the Leverevolution "plastic"-tipped bullets would ALWAYS jam when cycling the next round (found out that they are a tad longer than other 45-70 bullets) ... my go-to ammo are the flat nose Remington Core-Lokt 405 gr. bullets , 'cause even though they're heavier , they cycle far better for follow-up shots !!!

[@kevinrollman3101]

I have not had the same problem with the Hornady 325 FTX rounds. My Remington made 2017 1895 CB 45-70 cycles the same ammo without a problem. Is your 1895 made by JM or Remington? Just wondering. There may be some sort of chamber dimension difference.

[@christianolsen9781]

If you are loading the FTX yourself on std length brass that is your issue. Factory FTX is loaded on slightly shorter brass.

[@garrettforchrist2700]

Super cool same hole groups! That fourth bullet ended up being worth it!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲

[@dyouden]

The hornady monoflex is the clear winner there

[@LD-qj2te]

That’s what I use

[@phillipedds8998]

I have a Marlin 1895 CB and use the Fort Scott Munitions 45-70 300gr TUI. I have taken whitetail deer and black bear with that round, very impressed with the knock down power and wound channels.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

WOW, that’s some awesome groups. I have that same rifle. I’ve never gotten groups that small, I’ve gotten some 1” groups with my handloads at 100 yards. Which is awesome for FULL POWER 350gr. loads. They kick 🦵 like a Kentucky Mule too.

[@larrysayre824]

Hornaday did not need a fouling shot, but bullets looked like they were tumbling by the holes in paper. All copper bullet nice group after first shot, but will they expand or pass through. I am sure I would not like to get shot with either one.

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

Not sure about the rifle rounds, but the handgun ammo is designed to "tumble on impact". So you supposedly get penetration with a larger wound channel.

[@joelmcmahan7386]

Thanks again WTW, my 45/70 is the same as yours. I’ve not shot it much the last year, just something special about this one. A great caliber tru the ages, good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 👍🇺🇸

[@WHOTEEWHO]

💪💪💥💥💥

[@rvndmnmt1]

Prefer the iron, can't argue the precision of scopes. If I need a quick shot with a follow up shot iron or low powered optics are the way to go. Leaning on iron sights. One long shot a high powered properly sighted optic. My limits on iron sights is about 300 yards at the extreme. Around 100 to 150 yards is about optimum.

[@richardcox6935]

I have a Marlin 450 and it is awesome. The 450 round will take higher pressures and makes for a little better ballistics. I pulled the bullets off the 325 Flex and replaced with 300 JSP and hard cast led. They really do the job.

[@xavierhouseholder131]

A 45-70 is a good gun for hunting

[@johntaylor8582]

You ever shot $50 of ammo, and left the range thinking. That was least satisfying $50 ever gave me?

[@janisjake5350]

Put a Picatinny rail with ghost rings with a scout scope and quick release rings u get the best of both worlds and put a bigger loophole on be happy when u have gloves on.

[@Mark-uq9km]

I can tolerate the Hornady Leverevolution in 325 grain. It is a proven game getter including big moose. It starts at over 3000 ft.lbs of energy and has a higher BC than other rounds. I would choose the Leverevolution over Federal all the time. I have never been impressed with anything Federal except their primers are reliable. The Hornady brass is a problem for reloaders because the case is about. 002" shorter than Winchester rounds making it hard to crimp unless you use Hornady dies. Federal muzzle energy is 2200 ft.lbs which is pathetic. Their new Hammer Down ammo made specifically for lever guns is also low in energy. I really enjoyed the video. I love the .45-70 although it is way too much gun for deer hunting. In states that allow only straight walled cases I think the .350 Legend is about the best round for deer. My grandsons smoked both of their big bucks with the .350 Legend. It may look puny but it has a crushing punch.

[@cmiller1190]

I'd really like to see the new Ruger/Marlin 1894s in the 38/55 or .375 Win. with updated , modern loads from Hornady, Nosler, & Winchester, etc.

[@hulltacemergencymeddr.hull4370]

Excellent recording and I Agree! When I hunt, I always do an autopsy on any game, one of the reason, most people to not like to hunt with me. A GSW (Gun Shot Wound) is a GSW, and they always tell a story! Hopefully here in Oregon they won’t BAN my rifle as an Assault Lever Action! I have a similar rifle version that I bought in Alaska for Grizzly protection. Mine is SS, though draped in cloth, neoprene and tape camouflage. It also has factory porting. In Oregon I’ve used it to hunt black tail deer x 2 years. I got a really nice large 3x3 this year and my only complaint / concern, is that the round completely punches through the animal with little or no deformation. It’s fine with Excellent shot placement, but, as in humans, I prefer when the round deforms, has no core-jacket separation and dumps a large percent of its energy before Exiting the body. Where I’m hunting, I’m next to 300 acres of heavily forested, thick Oregon woods, owned by a strong ANTI-HUNTER, < 50 yards away. If the animal runs down the hill, across our shared private driveway and onto their property “Don’t even ask!” That happened last year. I used my R-P 405 gr Core-Lokt Flat-Nose round, sighted at 100 yds with 1.5” group. Shooting down a very steep hill with the animal angled up hill, my 1-RP round, punched through the scapula with a Perfect hole, took out the Thoracic Aorta, Thoracic Vertebrae, Spinal Cord and proceeded in a downward trajectory to Exit through a Rib. The Entrance Wound in the scapula was = Thoracic Vertebrae Exit Wound = Rib Exit Wound . The animal jumped and landed on its back, with legs in the air ➡️ DOA to X. Next year I’m going to switch to your top performer for Accuracy, since I think that’s the Most Important Factor (Shot Placement). I may experiment a little with bullet expansion though. This 405 gr R-P Flat-Nose would be a great round for Grizzly, or Buffalo, but not a large black tail deer. Dr. Hull,MD

[@jamesfarmer63]

I like your marlin 1895 45-70, i have the Henry golden 45-70 but it cost me a pretty penney

[@erolkavlakverizon6112]

I got to fire a 45/70 out of a trapper, several years ago..in a lever rifle. I love it..

[@simahe1252]

I read about a world class hunter, can't remember his name. He was asked about being a good shot and he said, if you could hit 4 inch target at 100 yds with 4 rounds you were pretty good. This from a guy who hunted everything. I think I read about him in the Lee reloading manual.

[@denisdegamon8224]

My Henry case hardened 4570 with a 22" barrel seems to like my hand loads using IMR4064 or 3031 at 1750 fps with 300 grain jacketed HP. My groups did move but got great groups with my plinker load of 16 grains of Unique and a hard cast lead FN lead bullets. It was a very lightly used gun, and had a huge 3x12 power scope. Made that rifle very heavy and unwieldly. I took that damage thing off and put on some Skinner peep sights and a new front partridge sight.

[@russellleavitt4449]

Those Fort Scott rounds did very well. The really impressive point of this post was your shot groups at 100 yards with a lever action 45-70 Govt rounds were no bigger that just under 3 inches and down to 5/8ths of an inch. Just wow!!!

[@niteline42]

Henry 45-70 side gate H010G here... Scoped with the Leopold 1.5-4 VX Freedom but setting much lower on the gun with Weaver mounts instead. It likes the 325 FTX although learned real quick it was time to start reloading myself again due to the current cost/lack of ammo available in this area. I don't have a fireplace to display it over and bought it to use. ;)

[@yewwtooob]

Wow. Try to find a 24" stainless barreled one back when marlin still made the barrels. They will clover leaf all day.

[@bdapyro8399]

I love the content. Keeps my attention no matter how long or short the video is

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching bigtime

[@planker]

good ol 45-70, its still here and your testing it in 2021. Gas Checked cast or hard cast works well in the Marlin. soft not so much, my 45-70 has a micro groved barrel. I found hot loads break scopes. The bullet doesn't go far so a good pistol scope works. Great Video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching planker

[@galenbridges4328]

You do know the closer you have the scope to the barrel the easier it is to sight in your gun And your face won't be so far off the gun ,Great show keep them coming love the big bore

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Old Fudd lore

[@Rickkari7]

Fort Scott! Want to try in my 7.62x39. Should try some in your Rugar American.

[@claychristmas5328]

I have the Federal, Winchester, and the 325gr Hornady and I get terrible grouping out of my Henry at 100 yds. I'm going to keep hunting for ammo.

[@otm646]

Had very similar results in my GBL with the Hornady. 325s and 250s had very similar POI.

[@mrmatt7210]

My Ruger #1 was a 1" shooter with the Winchester 300gr Super X. In regards to the Federal Fusion, i own a .308win and a 6.5 Creedmoor which are sighted in with this bullet as they both shoot groups into 1/2".

[@americanpatriot477]

My Marlin Stainless Steel Guide Gun will shoot the Hornady 325 Gr in less than 1inch at 100 yards. It has a Burris 2x7 Scout Scope on it.

[@richardcolligon4277]

Look's great Adam! Federal and Henry teamed up to make a new round about 2 year's ago called the hammer down. The lady from Gunscom recently took a Water Buffalo in afr

[@fruitfarmfords8243]

That new scope mount made by skyjacker lift kits?

[@4WorldPeace2]

Did you notice that the best groups were shot with non-lead ammo? Ammo is kind of sometimes rather iffy, have you considered adding a bullet chronograph to see how consistent the powder loads are on a foot per second average? I wonder how the Fort Scott 300g Solid Copper and the Hornaday 250g FTX both perform at 200 yards? Fifty-bucks a box for 45-70 solid copper 300g is pretty pricey but if your rifle really likes eating that the best, then feed it what it likes. Ammo prices have just gone off-the-rails, have you ever considered reloading?

[@nomansland4811]

I have one scoped and one with aperture sights. Love them both. Have taken a number of pigs with the open sight gun. Longest shot 125 yards. Have not taken game with the scoped one. My advice would be try to mount your scope lower on the gun if able. That is the perfect scope for that gun, for a conventional mount. Something about that micro grove rifling is finicky. If I recall hard cast bullets give best accuracy. There’s a good reason why Ruger ditched that type of rifling.

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Pretty impressive groups on those last two, whotee. I thik you've found a couple of new, accurate hunting boolots...😁

[@abnormalinvestigations]

Great video!

[@dallasmore6703]

Great video. I've been wondering how different manufacturers, bullet types and weights would do in my 1895. I've got some 420 grain and 540 grain hardcast lead bullets I need to pattern. Bought em for bear defense, but to date the planned trip hasn't happened. After watching your video I'm definitely gonna order some of those all copper rounds for deer and pig.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Dallas

[@nickrussell8029]

Look into the videos of fort Scott’s TUI ammo. They leave a massive wound cavity. One video shows a 45-70 that opens the top and bottom of a gel block. It’s amazing the energy transfer

[@waynebowman2315]

I have a model 1895g and it shoots 405 gainers the best, the Hornady stuff don't work so well

[@JeffinTD]

45-70 is one of those cartridges where it really pays to reload, both in terms of being able to afford to shoot it, and in accuracy potential. After a lot of testing I found a couple loads that shoot well in both a Contender pistol, and rifles.

[@billwilliams1842]

Hey WTW, I have a Marlin 45/70 and use the Hornady 325 grain Lever evolution for whitetail. Out of the deer I got I had 1 that ran for a distance but the rest of my deer dropped within a few yards. Anyways that is my thoughts. By the way I zero in at a 100 yards plus 1 inch for (in case) longer shots.

[@ammohead73]

That 5/8" group is awesome! You must have had company cause it looks like your on the toilet at the first and last of the vid,its cool Ive done weird stuff on the toilet too LOL!!!

[@TheMormonPower]

I have a very customised Marlin 45-70, tweeked for acuracy by one of the best gunsmiths in the world. Ive tested every known brand of ammo out there...Long story short Winchester Supreme 300 gr..Nosler Partition is number 1...3/4" 5 shot 100 yards time after time. Dont waste your money, I did it for you. 😮

[@matthewtalich9989]

Wow the accuracy of the fort Scott munitions 45-70 is hard to ignore. My only concern is I've never seen a performance review of the 45-70 TUI product and the addition of a meplat or flat point on this projectile to make it tubular magazine friendly seems to be helping stabilize it. This concerns me since most TUI ammunition is pointed which helps the ogive destabilize the projectile upon impact hence the name Tumble Upon Impact. Another concern of mine is ammunition designed to tumble or yaw often doesn't penetrate very straight you might fire a good shot but not hit the vitals your aiming at. So I think you may get a repeat of the FTX failure you've already experienced while hunting. On the other hand the Winchester was sufficiently accurate and is field proven all across the continent as a good deer round. Also the Winchester 45-70 load is one of the few rounds in 45-70 that's cheap enough to actually shoot. Personally I mostly look to 45-70 for its simplicity. Get some bullet casting molds and cook up some hard-cast hollow points then load them yourself. Though I must admit videos on handholding get very few views since most people are interested in the latest and greatest factory loads.

[@drummer0864]

I don't think the all copper round will expand very well so I would go with the Hornady 250 grn. would be best for the kill.

[@timbersniper2084]

Check there TUI out it does more damage than hollow points. I've shot hogs with it big difference.

[@kernalcorn84]

Thw 250gr hornady round is copper

[@oscarballard7911]

My Henry shoots the Lever action 250 Hornady’s the best. Never tried the Fort Scott.

[@kingpoobah1647]

Thanks for the review. My Marlin seems to like the fusion. I have the 26” octagon barrel.

[@kevinrollman3101]

I like the checkering design on your grip and forearm, “Beautiful” I agree the scope can’t be beat for accuracy long shots. My eyes too are not the greatest now. It’s like a blurry double looking through the semi Buckhorns although with up to 75 yard shots I can still hit bullseyes with the irons but anything out farther, I am considering putting a scope on mine.

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

I shot a few whitetails with fusion .308. They are lethal from near and far. I've shot Lever Evolution in .444. They are also drop dead lethal.

[@larrywilson6555]

I recently purchased a Marlin 1895G ported barrel. I haven’t shot it yet. It would be nice to try different rounds before buying a $50 box

[@doncraig3665]

thanks! have only shot my 45-70's with my handloads in cast 300 gr and 405 gr. i don't load mine very hot or you wind up making it no fun to shoot, especially with my henry single shot light weight carbine!

[@JP-nj5es]

Love to see some clay blocks and gallon jugs with the ft scott

[@paulkenville445]

Just bought a box of buffalo bore 45-70govt 430 gr hard cast 20 rounds for 85$ in communistfornia

[@jasonpetrie8552]

I've got the SBL trim and I am totally impressed with the hornady 250 grain, thats a sweet group. I load so I know what goes into the hornady by means of components, I'll be trying them out! I haven't seen fort scott up here in Alberta Canada otherwise I would try it too.

[@justinirwin7881]

Every video is about to be a really fun video

[@jackdougherty139]

I was surprised to see the Hornady flextips shooting low. I run them in my 336 Marlin and have great results on whitetails. These should go further and have more more foot-pounds at distance . Yes/no?

[@langleyj8199]

Very cool. Love my Henry X 45-70. Love the Marlin as well.

[@johnfindlay5743]

Wish you would have tested those 405 grain Remington bullets. Unreal in my guide gun.

[@IWatchedWhat]

WTW is your Marlin a microgroove barrel or is it one of the new ones with regular rifling? Mine is an older microgroove barrel and it shoots 330gr cast hollow points best.

[@joebloniarz4268]

So I won a trip to Africa to hunt a warthog,Impala and a blesbuck. I wanted to take my 4570. Would you recommend the fortscot ammo? I have one box right now and wonder if I should sight my gun in with it

[@Daniel7.62]

Have we done a bullet drop with the 45-70 yet. If not then maybe soon with the fortscott ammo would be nice

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That video will be out this week. Already filmed it

[@mitchellmiller7717]

I got the same results with the Hornady ammunition but I was switching to non lead last year. I picked up a box from Buffalo Boar and it shot better then the .250 grain Hornady.

[@10ft5x3]

At 100RDS hitting that paper plate would be good enough for my old eyes.

[@jeremyfrix522]

Make sure you use that limb saver buddy it won’t hurt near as much lol 😝

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I actually forgot it....

[@peterg1448]

and don't do what my brother did when he first tried mine he left the stock about 2" off his shoulder lucky it was only factory 300gr ammo he reckoned it bloody hurt

[@obedcasillas3404]

I'm going to find some Fort Scott ammo and try it. That's an impressive group.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good stuff

[@jestr102763]

Can you throw some of them Lehigh defense deep penetrator rounds out there for accuracy. See how they match up to the rest of em.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

You didn’t answer my question in the last video, but answered it in this one. I was wondering why you didn’t like the performance of the Hornady FTX lever revolution and now I know why. I really appreciate that and I would love to get a similar 45-70. For hunting Ohio, and for hunting bear 🐻 and wild boar 🐗 wherever

[@vyacheslavgomzikov6759]

Добрый день у Вас есть аналог вашего патрона патрону 366 ТКМ . Хотелось бы посмотреть убойную силу аналога вашего патрона и патрона 366 ТКМ. Спасибо

[@jamesrandolph2563]

Can you do a water jug or ballistic gel test for these same rounds?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@1Whitetail]

Those two loads did very good but what was the difference in pricing between them ? Both was very good for hunting 👏.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

All very expensive

[@howardschleinkofer4946]

can you try some reloads ,, almost everybody is turning to them and you know why...