Why 2018 was S1MPLE's Best Year EVER

[@vooCSGO]

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[@vooCSGO]

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[@pileofmemes]

Gettin that bag

[@Elias-jo1cc]

really cuh

[@kwagar9810]

At least try to make a smooth transition. Bro really showed his movie maker skills 💀

[@ericmassey3781]

U know this guy's a monster when the prime astralis is just avoiding him to win the game, daym. And the fact that he was no.1 in 2018 despite of not winning a lot more events which he won in 2021

[@BURRDAWG_]

It's funny when you see him in a 1vx and they get all aggressive until they realize who it is

[@Luqaza]

Nope i dont know that

[@KJ_XCV]

Impossible to just "GO KILL" in 2021 csgo. The games are really becoming chess matches instead of just who can frag better. If s1mple did things in 2021 like he did in 2018, I argue that he would actually be a liability to the tactical integrity of his team. The man was, and still is, just insane. The impressive aspect is seeing his evolution to maintain his high impact. When s1mple has a "BAD" game, it's not really a bad game. It's average. But most of the time he's either 1 or 2 on the team in terms of impact. 2021 NaVi is so good due to the fact that if s1mple has on of his more "NORMAL" games, his teammates pick up the slack. They always had the raw skill and it's finally being implemented properly with good tactical play.

[@trollface9903]

Maybe you could make a video contrasting Liquid 2019 with Astralis 2018 and Navi 2021, and what they were lacking compared to these two teams. Since Liquid had 4 stars and a fragging igl, which is even more than Navi. In terms of fragging, they were only really lacking an AWP.

[@Handconnonierr]

I think fact that they were from NA(bootcamp there) when they cant get decant sparring partners as much as they needed. ps. ofc i didnt follow them and maybe they were more then 60% in EU, but imo you need at least 50% time play with the best/equal to keep your ground and progress. +maybe NA cs is more relax and dont train as much as EU , and correct if Im wrong but only time when NA won was Cloud9 on America against Faze :D (doesnt speak about mibr because its South America and 2015 cs was close to beta imo, when you watch how they played back then :)

[@DakotaTheRota]

@@Handconnonierr 2019 Team Liquid won almost everything, including most best of x's with the second most consecutive best of x's wins only placing second to 2013 NiP. Also majors only mean so much, especially since they won a Intel grand slam in like 65 days which will never happen again because Intel changed how it worked because of them. And to the OP, it was because the player break, something happened probably behind the scenes they don't want to talk about and they lost their moral. Then they lost against Astralis in Berlin and that probably destroyed any moral they had left.

[@Handconnonierr]

@@DakotaTheRota yes probably I should consume that Liquid won something when they were long time top2 with they constant agression till somewhere Berlin where ENCE debute and if im not mistaken 13:16 inferno (13:13 it was where they lost momentom and lost entirly). I remember it good becuse I even put liquid to chempoions in pickem because read twitter that astralis had 2 players got sick (glave and xypnex).

[@jacobm2625]

Keep in mind, Liquid didn’t necessarily need to have an awp, as the AUG/SG meta was in full swing

[@bubbles13244]

@@DakotaTheRota majors are a lot actually. Major winners are always remembered. Not iem winners.

[@aspielm759]

I see what you’re getting at, but I feel like s1mple is just taking a chill pill. 2018 probably was a lot more stressful than the recent years.

[@vooCSGO]

yeah that's kind of the conclusion I came to -- he's probably capable of playing similarly but doesn't need to and arguably shouldn't try. that being said if i have to compare 1 for 1 I'd have to give it to 2018 because while I think he's still capable of doing most or all of what he did, in 2018 he actually did do it.

[@aspielm759]

@@vooCSGO "he's probably capable of playing similarly but doesn't need to and arguably shouldn't try." Yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself. Couldn't agree more! If I were to speculate and read into it even more I'd say he has just come to terms with himself and realized he doesn't need to prove anything. He has proven enough in fact. "while I think he's still capable of doing most or all of what he did, in 2018 he actually did do it." That is a good point! It doesn't necessairly mean he got worse, but his statistics did and his "highlights" got less. And since you can't rate what didn't happen, I can see why you chose that video title. Besides... good marketing.

[@KytexEdits]

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[@bruno6179]

true +1

[@47gaming7]

Not really.

[@yakub888]

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[@wutwhy9898]

I heard from a few KZbinr sometime they don't even get paid

[@his_purpose3]

The discrepancy in skill among the whole 2018 NaVi line-up eventually got so bad that they lost to a #29 ranked Heroic in early 2019, failing to qualify for the EPL Season 9 finals. I remember how shocked everyone was when a #2 ranked NaVi lost to a team that far below them, but considering it was really only S1mple doing any amount of serious damage in that whole series, it's not hard to see why they lost in what may have been the biggest upset of that year.

[@his_purpose3]

BTW I love how it took a loss that bad to kick edward from the main roster. Dude was legit useless in some match-ups lol.

[@UnrealLuxis]

@@his_purpose3 im surprised that they didnt bench edward so much earlier, he was pretty much the one holding navi back, he was far past his prime already

[@his_purpose3]

@@UnrealLuxis That and Zeus' shot-calling had fallen off a cliff by late 2018. The epl season 9 series I mentioned was a culmination of all the issues that were already somewhat apparent the year before, but weren't serious enough to hold the team back consistently.

[@cupko112]

so basically s1mple was better in 2018 bc he had almost same stats as 2021 but then he was forced to do riskier plays bc his team couldn't and now he can play less aggresive bc his team is better

[@markanderson2925]

Ceh9 from old school NaVi actually analyzed the 2018 vs 2021 s1mple's stats and concluded that in 2018 he had more multiple kill rounds, but also no kill rounds. So in 2018 he had to literally kill half of enemy team alone to win the round.

[@Dude-xu8gn]

cause in 2018 navi was built with 4 meat shields for simple and simple;)

[@atharvarajadhyaksha4813]

2018 team was so bad that it wasn't even called NaVi. It was called "s1mple and his friends"

[@Critical3rror]

wow, i guess im just like s1mple then because unless i kill 3-5 players on the enemy team my team loses the round

[@vooCSGO]

i was already like halfway into the research for this video when I saw the thread, but shoutout to this reddit thread. gave me a bit of info i worked with as well: www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/s5m2v7/why_s1mple_in_2018_is_still_better_than_s1mple_in/

[@jakebishop7822]

I find this topic really interesting in general, 2 things I want to put forward slightly in favor of 2021 s1mple. In general I tend to think 2021 s1mple could not carry 2018 NAVI as hard as 2018 s1mple did, and 2018 s1mple would not lead to quite as dominant of a world number 1 as 2021 s1mple is. But ok, here we go 2021 s1mple, 2 points. 1. 2021 s1mple is way way better against really tactical teams. This was kinda his weakness in 2017, where his lower playoff stats that resulted in his #8 placement on HLTV basically came because they kept playing Astralis and North in playoffs. 2018 s1mple was good against tactical teams, better than anyone not called s1mple, but was not ultra consistent, like he was against loose teams like Moussports. 2021 s1mple on the other hand, absolutely shits on tactical teams to a degree no player ever has. He is better at playing around utility, his understanding of the macro game and rotations is better, he is way more un counterable. 2. 2021 s1mple seems mentally stronger. 2018 s1mple was again still better than anyone not named s1mple in Grand Finals and high pressure matches, but was quiet more often than he was in quarter final or group stage games. 2021 s1mple is seeminly completely immune to pressure, and if anything actually thrives under it and plays even better. So for example I think if you throw 2021 s1mple into the Faceit Major final, he probably is super impactful, and doesn't have a quiet game. (I actually think the other "quiet" grand final from 2018 s1mple was not actually him playing worse, but just being on eco constantly. This was Epicenter against Faze) Anyway, I think this is an interesting topic, largely because there are strong cases either way. And I basically stand by my assessment that neither could do better than what the other did.

[@chervilious]

2021 simple on 2018 na'vi would play like 2018 simple. He's not someone who sit still at lose, he would adapt. Astralis dominated s1mple then after a while, S1mple bounce back and dominated Astralis

[@Handconnonierr]

I agree with the majority what did you wrote @Jake Bishop, and overall interesting. As voo said: 2018 navi had 2 superstars where s1mple had 1+0.5 of himself +0.5 of electronic. 2021 navi was (and imo 2022 seems continue 2021: lose against mibr, but anyway getting to iem even losing 2 times) ''you shoot how good you can, we gonna win you by %" because they have 3 stars with gameplay where nobody of them need to over perform so you can't expect who gonna kill you and make anti strats because you can avoid s1mple but you cant avoid 3players (+b player/clutcher perfecto and decant captain who more play like scout/agressive with mp9 and donate to 3 players of his team).

[@shadowduds]

voo roasting thescoreesports is the best thing ive seen in a while

[@kyoumeister8996]

ikr they can stretch a 5 minute worth content into a 20 minute video...let alone how unprofessional some of the videos are

[@AllGoodKenji]

going off of this logic, it also makes it harder with the new roster to perform as good as he did with a lower rated team. better team backing you up means less impact. i think its too hard to compare the two timelines being that he won a major weighing over the different team.

[@yessir6427]

no

[@p0ker_m]

There's an important fact we also have to consider and that is the excessive amount of online play in 2021. It is not fair to compare it to s1mple in 2018 when everything (or most of his maps) were on REAL lans with a crowd. In 2021 we only got 2 of these.

[@arislanbekkosnazarov9644]

You do realize that their dominance comes from the LAN tournaments, not the online ones

[@p0ker_m]

@@arislanbekkosnazarov9644 NaVi won only 2 real LANs in 2021 (Major and Fall Finals), cologne and world finals 2021 were in a studio. They also won pro league, CIS RMR, DreamHack Masters Online and Blast Global finals 2020 ONLINE. For comparison, all of s1mple's 2018 achievements were on LANs with a crowd.

[@arislanbekkosnazarov9644]

@@p0ker_m ok boss, you are the arbiter of legitness in pro CS scene, let’s bow to your majesty

[@p0ker_m]

@@arislanbekkosnazarov9644 So you don't think playing mostly online vs playing only on LAN with crowd matters? What I said is not an opinion of mine, this IS what happened. NaVi did play only that many LAN events in 2021 compared to 2021, do you seriously think this shouldn't be taken into account?

[@reasonrevived]

you can only love s1mple getting an actual team around him and winning the major. 2018 with zeus was hilarious lmao

[@aimlevel]

Zeus was the highest impact player on NaVi in 2018. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[@Lybrel]

0/8

[@arislanbekkosnazarov9644]

In an alternative universe, yes

[@sephsticles1016]

Never thought I'd see the day when voocsgo would be sponsored by raid shadow legends. Of course he does it in a video analyzing the player sponsored by raid shadow legends

[@archiechiu7524]

the score esports is an absolute joke of a channel. We need a series where voo costantly rosts the hell out of them.

[@LimitedCheetah]

They all have the same weird voice and hand gestures. New employees must have to take a douchebag class or something.

[@kurziieee]

@@LimitedCheetah im not the only one who thinks this? thanks lol

[@yessir6427]

+1 they suck

[@MrJaakkoLe]

The comparison isn't was he better then or now. Difference is that 2018 he was trying / had to try win matches on his own because the team didn't have the same firepower / strategy as they do now. Now often you see him not repeek an opponent because risk reward isn't there and he just lets someone else make a play from elsewhere before taking more contact.

[@TopicTide2]

Imagine being such a unit that an entire team runs the other way when they see you

[@kyoumeister8996]

Sometimes, s1mple really plays like he is 'walling' execpt he is not. This man just has tremendously high level game sense.

[@YungZprite]

4 years flys fast

[@jarno_art]

Bruh, s1mple only getting better over time.. he's unstoppable my fav player and personality of all time

[@sirgeorgioalastrata4104]

Xantares better

[@ewanm8995]

You're seeing

[@srrs007]

@FBI but that doesn't stop s1mple

[@jubaaitali2459]

🐐🙌❤️

[@hjalte1830]

@FBI so Simple should take MiBR on his own, you can’t blame it all on Jim :)

[@KIMG69]

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[@laith9506]

does anyone else do what s1mple does at 9:24 where he peeks an angle that his teammate cleared? I do this sometimes because of muscle memory lmao

[@federicob9103]

hahah MM things. Never trust your teammate.

[@sephsticles1016]

just making sure. never know when someone might repeek

[@yessir6427]

@@sephsticles1016 ??? watch the timestamp

[@alcazar9266]

dont forget zeus and edward taking guns and not dropping, leaving s1mple on a deagle.

[@blightcs4831]

9:11 bro score esports just cant get anything right lmao

[@BURRDAWG_]

S1mple was a better individual player in 2018. In 2020-current. S1mple is a more well rounded and disciplined player.

[@hiimroo3120]

I think he has had to tactically change as a player. The meta is so much harsher and evolved now and yet he still manages to read utility and the game and play around it. I think that the s1mple we get in 2021 is a much higher skill ceiling. Now there are other players that have raw aim similar to 2018 s1mple but they have nowhere near the impact because they can't free space for themselves to do it. You see players in 2018 frag clips and you can clearly say what a dumb play when you should do this. Astralis were tactical gods because they work out some nade combos for banana. It was just a different time where it was easy to just frag out

[@unculturedswine5583]

Yeah, frankly, even if it isn't the whole reason, the most likely reason is probably just that teams nowadays are just much better, i think gla1ve said in an interview that during the astralis era, two things that separated them from other teams was obviously better tactics and as importantly still, while they might not have had the number one player in the world, the fact that they were the only team filled with only great players, and that that has now changed. The fact that s1mple is still so op now might as well just mean that he has improved but its hidden by the scene itself maturing and i guess that means s1mple himself might still keep getting better lol Tho of course i might totally be wrong but it does make sense and is something pros bring up, about basically the powercreep in the pro scene

[@Bankmumric]

its also harder to get good stats for him now because he has good teammates who kills the enemies before s1mple can

[@LeandroMartinezLFM]

Can you share the page for pro stats at 9:12?

[@pongo4505]

the truth is , he is gonna forever be remembered as the goat of the game :)

[@Gavrilooo]

That was the best ad u have ever seen hahahahhaha. Probably the only time I watched the radio shadow legends ad to the end lmao

[@Toaster___Bath]

Navi livin rent free in voos head lately

[@kennym762]

5:56 dev1ce tbags simple after denying ace clutch. Harsh

[@zurph9135]

5:12 - I love what you just said.

[@DMOND-qg2cg]

If you just compare the eye test 2018 s1mple was for sure better. The things he was doing were unbelievable

[@DragonHalo3D]

I don’t even play cs, Im a filthy valorant casual, but I love your analytical content and personality! Twitter takes on point too

[@ZaddY102]

Nah bruh.. title sud be s1mple becoming too OP

[@Kevin-wu8wi]

Damn 2018 s1mple carried 3 people

[@kushiwa5506]

at least now he is really happy and actually won the major

[@ryanharris7891]

S1mple 2018 is the definition of Kreygasm

[@rednaxofficial]

That dupreeh guy in this video looks pretty good at the game.

[@codfish.3635]

the video u talked about on stream, the vid is very interesting and I also think cs:go skills wise 2018 s1mple was better but 2021 s1mple is just legendary with an amazing team.

[@juuhan]

s1mple was maybe a little bit better individually in 2018 but had more success in 2021 with arguebly overall better team behind him when he didn't solo carry most of the time

[@sokolaad1238]

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[@Tob1t]

The way astralis avoided simple, is like when napoleons enemies avoided him XD

[@counter-gamer2232]

how did you do that in 9:54 help i am searching for it a long ago

[@colonelinfernal5004]

He had a chorded mouse, a zowie. That's probably what it was. 🙃

[@SteveFuks]

s1mple literally gets better every year

[@Castifii]

what was the view model settings at. 0:07

[@LuvU2x]

The video score esports mad about his crosshair placement being bad was idiotic, to say the least 😂

[@arthdaware05]

Reminder that device is better than simple

[@angelshotgun7037]

Want to see your next vid on whos the goat of cs in all iteration of it.

[@CountFisco]

when is monopoly moustache voo gna return

[@thericepotato5847]

i still wouldn't say he "fell off." going from top 5 worldwide to top 20 worldwide is basically the equivalent of tripping ever so slightly lol

[@killspreem]

So 2018 S1mple is 2021 NiKo.

[@assetaden6662]

Seeing sensei from akuma in that crosshair tierlist I lmao'd. How can they include their team in statistics?

[@treacherouz3656]

I respect the hustle

[@RaimaNd]

2:44 Me: *laughs 2.2+ hltv rating*

[@MegaAmas123]

S1mple is the GOAT, most consistant player we have ever seen, every match he plays he does something insane, Niko at one point was a little better than him, but overall, there is no close 2nd to him

[@simbbatta8675]

bro what are your viewmodel commands ?

[@nikolajnovicic402]

Can someone please tell me what map does voo use to make guide videos?

[@mats0001]

video begin at 1.07

[@samuelandretinggaard4296]

How do you supmit vods?

[@vintagejock3951]

Excellent analysis as always.

[@arislanbekkosnazarov9644]

A really good video unlike certain clickbaiting pseudo-esport channel

[@onelostalien]

2021 s1mple is better then 2018 s1mple. More mature player

[@SolarZ68]

Hes has a better team thats for sure

[@weeznax]

Faze 2022 strat was "kill s1mple"

[@edmundpope6415]

GET THAT RAID BREAD!!!!!

[@houdinics2]

WAIT PRIME XYP HAD A 1.21 RATING? Jesus I knew he was insane but not that insane during his prime Edit: I'm dumb he had 1.14 but for a support that's still insane

[@notnothaze]

so the main difference is that simple no longer is forced to be the star player, he just does it anyways.

[@fica1137]

He is forced to be the star player. Navi would have lost 7/9 events in 2021 if he didn't go god mode in elimination match

[@adamkatona7784]

he got better over time so as his team changed a lot so he does not have to carry such a burden every game

[@bujakerino]

hahaha did dev1ce really tbag s1mple at 5:55 ? :D

[@jamesgates1074]

Yeah, I can understand your video games skills dropping off when your home country gets invaded. Some things IRL are actually more important than video games.

[@hadihabib5629]

What makes simple truly amazing is that he can adapt to the changes needed for his team and still be the best in the world.

[@YakuzaGoon]

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[@vooCSGO]

luv u

[@daltonskids1141]

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[@Hu7io]

Its not that he was better, it was 2018 that playstyle wouldnt work right now, mainly because teams are a lot better right now and throwing rounds by enemy is a thing a lot less right now, so it is not possible anymore to just "go kill"

[@trollface9903]

I mean he was doing it last year still. Also, this is prime astralis that simples versing here, who weren't that much worse in absolute terms compared to teams now

[@HaasTheFirst]

Good vid. But isn't everything you said in the end saying, that s1mple was better last year? If it's basically easier for him and more sustainable?

[@ossilong]

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[@zaccarlson8892]

Voo you ruined my excuse for having bad crosshair placement :(

[@amin7581]

It was 2v5 for s1mple

[@cuylshepherdton7437]

Never forget that S1mple was banned by ESL for cheating in 2013.

[@jebachlav1968]

He was not lol Now He Is also team player And still droping unreal scores also He finally won major

[@kshitiz6376]

5:12 Kill Xyp9x before he gets into a clutch. Sounds about right!

[@8Splize8]

what is DPR

[@vooCSGO]

deaths per round (average)

[@dimesntreys]

where the tik toks voo

[@bigsauce1116]

I'm sick of this whole "s1MpLe pLaYeD bAd" nonsense. Just Faze the credit they deserve, they are a supergroup of a team.

[@rive3051]

my man this was 3 months ago

[@bigsauce1116]

@@rive3051 and people still be sayin the same shit

[@Fist3ee]

@@bigsauce1116 nah he just got countered by FaZe they were focusing so hard on getting s1mple killed like everytime s1mple went B they went B because they knew s1mple was always alone on the bomb site because NaVi never expected team to go after s1mple normally almost all enemies when they see s1mple B they go A or on the other way around..FaZe just played insane nobody played bad

[@Pr0nogo]

GOOD video

[@jaden2790]

another video showing how unknowledgeable Voo is.

[@thelast1090]

That was worst Raid SL advert I ever heard :D almost same bad as my csgo skills lol

[@donut4199]

Algorithm comment 👍

[@svihl666]

10:31 / 10:31

[@ledcing4489]

he always best

[@volify_]

donald

[@Lebberg]

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[@crtc5432]

why voo bully me? sending ❤️ for eveyone in 🇺🇦

[@GruseligerZigeuner]

„…I‘m here to make the argument that he was actually better in 2018. I’m thinking of a video game…“ and continues without any stop into an ad-placement for a bullshit game without any mercy. Coldest placement ever seen. Wtf I‘m getting so fucking tired of these placements everywhere about bullshit games, just a few seconds after the video starts. And in this case right here you did it really filthy. Thumbs down!

[@GruseligerZigeuner]

I mean this is actually SPAM!