Why a Victron EV Charging Station for our second EV?!

Today, we have a look at the Victron EV Charging Station. This station will be installed in the Big Shed where our new EV, a GWM Ora, parks and charges.
Before this EV charging station gets installed, we will have a close look what's inside, inspect all components and trying to understand how it works.
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[@bberg30]

I have one. It works perfectly over the last year. It's perfect integrated in the victron universe.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Nice, thanks for the feedback!

[@MrPeregrines]

Danke für Deine Videos :) I installed Victron EVCS (the one without display) about a year ago. I love it ever since!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Nice!

[@ericverlaet4447]

I use a Victron NS charging station for 1 year now It's the No Screen version, cheaper... It's working fine, I will install a second one for our second EV next year... A lot of parameters to adjust the situations.... Nice reviews to come. Many thanks to you. Eric from Belgium.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thanks for sharing

[@Thunderst0rn]

I have the NS version now for a few months, really happy with it. Scheduled charging and charge throtteling, works with and without victron system, really handy.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Nice, I'm looking forward to commission mine soon.

[@zonta71]

Already 92,500. 100k is just round the corner. Thanx For the vids as usual.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Man, that is so scary!

[@tylerjw702]

Heeeey you finally did it! Congrats on the 2nd EV! Seals don't regulate their own charge either, it's up to the EVSE to tell the car via the CP signal how much current to take, my openEVSE does this as well=

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Hello Tyler. Yeah, we finally did it. The offer was too good from the Ipswich dealership. Yes, OpenEVSE does the same.

[@danfitzpatrick4112]

Delaware Ohio, now you're in my neck of the world! Cool!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

That's where Off-Grid Power Systems sits! 😉

[@Texas_Radical]

I used to live in polaris area and worked at the Monro in delaware. Relocated to Texas about 15 years ago.

[@d3claes]

Another interesting new chapter. Thanks for your efforts!

[@FutureSystem738]

Thanks Andy 👍

[@FunnyFantasticFail]

Danke für das Video. Sowas habe ich schon länger gesucht.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thanik you. There is more...

[@NukeFPV]

I'll bet you're like me.... Following the sparky around all day asking questions... hahaha They must think we hobbyists are annoying, but then realize we've learned a massive amount, sometimes even more than them on specific topics ;)

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, I assisted😉

[@koestich]

Hi guys, thank you for the video Andy! There is already a new Charging Station (revision/ v2) out, so hopefully another friendly guy may sent it to you for a direct comparsion. Tbh I did mot like the EVCS from Victron, in Germany you need additional RCD Type which costs ~400€, other wallboxes have build those in amd are certified and tested. I installed a warp charger 2 (v3 oit some month ago) and put a script in my Cerbo GX large image NodeRed, which controls my charging. If you are interested, I may provide it to you, should work with several others, too (but may need some adaption). BR from Germany

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

That is the one without display, right? A smaller unit. I think it is just a different station. I wanted the display because we can set the charging power and mode directly on the unit without using the app.

[@zoom_h2625]

@@koestich Take a Doepke FI-Schalter Typ A EV - DFS4 040-4/0,03 it is about 230€ and will protect you.

[@showme360]

I expect the sparky will say 'this is the worst charger I've seen' because it looks rubbish as a design to install and service. No dought the electronics is good, but we will see. Great that you get this donation to your channel Andy, lets hope more come to the for! Ken in Wales

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Nop, not at all. He thought it's easy to connect😁

[@loucinci3922]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thanks for watching

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Good to see you are a 2 ev household now.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Following your steps😉

[@greglipschitz]

I've had one for nearly a year, no real issues. The guys at Victron have been excellent with any firmware bugs. Have it all integrated in to home assistant.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Ah, great, that's good to hear.

[@rdflo6739]

Oh, this is interesting! I have an old 6 kw charger for my old Nissan Leaf. But like you say, it takes what it can, no way to throttle the power. So this is exactly what I'm looking for, from a functional perspective. However the box looks... Meeeh... However, i am thinking that i might be able to shoehorn the components into my existing charger as an upgrade..;) looking forward to the next episode!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, I tried with several charging cables and stations and the Ora just takes whatever it can from any station. So this Victron station was on my radar for a long time. I wanted it for my Model 3 but since I can adjust everything through the app, it makes more sense for the Ora.

[@wilcostienezen9403]

The coil is for the 6mA DC fault current. This is a must. I build my Charger with a Charx 3100 + 1000 for our both cars.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, that's it.

[@davidwalker9560]

First off you don't need a second person to connect it to power. You can do one of two ways, wire power to a terminal box and prewire the charger to connect to terminal box, or wire to socket for 3 phase and prewire the charger with the male end plug for the socket, and then you can move it if necessary.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, ok with an additional plug... But usually, that's not how it is connected.

[@kjetilsmme1604]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Also sometimes a regulatory issue to connect it via a socket. The euro 3-phase 16A/32A red sockets are only rated for full power for 8h continous use. And in some countries it is now illegal to connect an EV charger through a socket or even install a socket for that purpose.

[@davidwalker9560]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia True, but you make it portable and not tied to one spot.

[@rklauco]

Go-e charger, Victron system and HomeAssisstant for the win! :)

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, this all should work together. We will see.

[@tyweb9264]

They do have good features, but you need home assistant to make it work properly(needs to upgrade to firm ware 1.29 for additional features). I posted this issue on Victron forum, haven't had a reasonable answer yet so HA (Home Assistant) to the rescue. Auto - uses excess solar and a user configurable amount of battery before it stops. Then it waits till the next day for the sun. No good if you then need to finish the charge later, that takes manual intervention. So HA switch's mine to manual at 9pm and then charges the car to a predetermined kw, based on the Chargers current "Charged amount" vs the kw t I set on the screen in HA. Then in the morning I have a sunrise trigger that switches it back to auto. It needs to use the inbuilt schedules and have a 4th mode, that is auto by solar and then top off according to schedule to a kw of X. Which is what my HA does for me. Not Good... My "Zappi" My energy, does all this automatically, yes it does cost $400 more, but this Victron EV charger needs a Type B RCD which costs $400, Zappi its built in. That said it works great, in auto once my batteries get to 70% SOC (71% on display) the auto just keeps notching up the amps to match the solar production, so today I was charging the Tesla with 22amps free from the sun to 413km. Tesla can better manage the basic charging functions, but this manages the Auto based on available solar better. Previous vehicle was the PHEV Mitsi (EV Unplugged) and this was a dumb charge car, so the Victron made it better.

[@TheRonskiman]

Surely this can be done in Node Red on the Cerbo as well. I have HA but use Node Red on the Cerbo for all the extra control I need (no EV or charger though).

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

The automatic feature will make almost no sense for us in an off-grid system.

[@TheRonskiman]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia it could make sense, it could check and monitor loads prior to turning on the charger, last thing you want to be doing is be drawing more power than the inverters can supply. Mind you, you could still have an issue if the car was charging and a heavy power draw came on from house, such as an induction hob or electric oven, could monitoring and turning down the charger save the day????

[@edwardvanhazendonk]

I'm looking forward to followup videos for this charging station. I'm looking to either convert my OpenEVSE to 3 phase or buy this one. There are projects to let the OpenEVSE talk as a supported EVSE to Victron, but maybe a better solution is to get a real Victron one. They are around €375 at this moment which is still more than a conversion to 3 phase of the contactor will cost me, but the OpenEVSE is around 6 years old and has done a great job. Only thing I do not like so much is that my Thetered cable will have to go. But maybe looking at this inside I can attach it to the station myself. It's already a 32A 3 phase cable. Especially with dynamic prices and an ESS onsite it will be valueable to have an all Victron setup to make it work smooth. Thanks for sharing the first bits and congrats to Silke with a nice shiny red Ora!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thanks, Edward. Yeah, dynamic pricing will be of great use to charge your vehicles from the grid when it is cheap. That is something we have for a while and everyone can use it through an app when signing up with a specific energy supplier.

[@InakiRecio]

Waiting to see the features of this charger. My electric car is on the way, and I need to decide which wallbox to install. I've noticed there's a new version of the charging station. I'm not sure what the difference is, but I'm sure your test will be great. I'll be keeping an eye on it.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thank you, more to come...

[@DanBurgaud]

4:08 I bet that board is "ESP32" Ardruino!

[@jimcalver-oj4xf]

Interesting that there is only one knockout for wire / cable entry. Does it not talk to the rest of the Victron system by anything other than wifi? How might the communication cables get in / out of this charger? Watch out that wasps don't get into the connector drain tube.

[@Self.reliant]

Looks fun

[@DPTech_workroom]

You could make a real time subscribers indicator on the wall... (ESP, or Arduino project with LED panel, or something else)

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

I really haven't got time for that and I quite like changing the numbers manually.

[@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading]

Heya, oh nice something differant but still it has to do with solar and DIY beeing self sufficent as much as you/our family can be I love it. yes would love to see about this elektric O R A car looks nice

[@zaprodk]

6:26 Interesting to see that they went with a Nextion display instead of rolling their own. The ESP32 has enough oomph to run a proper display itself, and Nextion's are not cheap!

[@dennisvanjeveren362]

Would love to see this in action. Also wonder if it can work with a backend system? That way you can make a public station. This feature is handy if you need charge your car at home but someone else pays for it (e.g. your company)

[@STM-c6s]

You are a person who promotes companies such as EVE and others, promoting and convincing the buyer.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

I'm trying different products and see which work well and which won't. That's what I'm sharing on this channel.

[@STM-c6s]

Until now, you have not made a video on the difference between Creed A and Creed B batteries. Is it a real video?

[@MrElciupacabra]

does it work to charge when offGrid?does it use all the avilable solar power?

[@upnorthandpersonal]

You can configure that. You can have a fixed limit, or use the excess solar.

[@MrElciupacabra]

how does it see you have execess solar being offGrid?

[@upnorthandpersonal]

@@MrElciupacabra It integrates with the rest of the Victron system, so it can see how much is being consumed by the inverters and how much is generated by the charge controllers. It can increase/decrease the load so that no power is drawn from the battery.

[@LetmanRon]

I'm watching from Nigeria, do you have pdf books for solar installations training? If yes how much is it?

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

No, sorry, I don't have any books or pdfs. This is specific to every country as they have their own regulations.

[@sunshineossi]

Well, you already know my video about the Victron EV Charging Station and the problems I have with it...😅 I hope yours has at least the Firmware Version 1.23 or newer installed on it. My charging station only had the very old version 1.21 on it. But the Bluetooth function for the Charging Station to use the VictronConnect App can only be activated with the firmware version 1.23 or newer😏 And unfortunately you also need a Victron Professional account to be able to download a new Firmware, because you don’t get it on the normal Victron Website 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yes, seen your video...

[@PegasusDroneMedia]

Hi Andy, can you review the new Charging Station NS at some point please?

[@zoom_h2625]

I would like to think that the extra current transformer is the 6mA DC detection.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yes, you are probably right.

[@awesomusmaximus3766]

Cool

[@UmbrellaProject6790]

A solar flower stands on the meadow you can't water it it produces electricity then a bee comes with a coffee machine and sucks the solar flower dry

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Thank you very much for your support!

[@UmbrellaProject6790]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia American Solar Power😉 I have developed a prototype for solar systems against hurricanes The system moves into the ground by itself. To move it out, you have to unlock the system by hand and then the hydraulics move back up again Electricity is what you don't have after a hurricane Test successful...

[@nietvantoepassing2369]

Please also look into the unofficially supported phase switching (hardware mod needed) to support low (= low sun) and high (3 phase high current) power charging and the problems where part number SPR00103 is needed. I wanted to share links to these topics, but it seems this is not allowed by KZbin :(

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

We don't have three phase in this location and won't use the auto settings much. It will be manual set to a fixed charging speed for most of the time and we start charging when power is available and not needed for other stuff.

[@MrHellsteeth]

I would have expected a neater construction from Victron. Looks a bit like a DIY hobby project.

[@aselaweerasinghe8303]

This ev charger is still around $ 1800 in Australia. However, victron released a new ev charger recently around 900$, which doesn't have a built-in display

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Nope, you can get it here for just over $700 now: www.energyeco.com.au/products/victron-ev-charging-station?variant=44051153813744

[@markcollins5790]

I also have this charger and am waiting for an installer to do there master craft

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Took mine only 30min or so. I assisted (to film😉).

[@FlorinUrzica]

👍👍👍

[@junkerzn7312]

One thing to note when you are testing this thing, don't expect the charger / vehicle to instantly react to changes in power, e.g. if it is trying to soak up excess solar (tracking excess solar). It isn't going to track very well and there could be up to a 10 minute delay depending on what is going on. Typically smart chargers with power sharing or solar matching features have to operate very conservatively because vehicles do not instantly respond to requests. And depending on the standard, the protocol might not even communicate a specific amount of current. For example, J1772 / CCS plugs when operating in AC mode utilize a PWM signal to communicate the power request to the vehicle. If too much current is being pulled, chargers typically pull the current request (PWM signal) all the way back to the minimum (which is 6A I think), and then slowly ratchet-up the request to try to rebalance whatever metric they are using. Pulling back to minimum power is quite fast, but increasing it back to the desired value can take quite a while. -Matt

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

I will only use it in manual mode. Tracking is kind of pointless in an off-grid system. But I will certainly test it😉

[@ThanosSustainable]

@@OffGridGarageAustraliano it’s not, you can use the EV as extra storage for the solar system.

[@ando3807]

@@ThanosSustainable Yes. But i don't think that is the issue here. In an off-grid System there is no power there is no power coming in or going out at any time. Unlike with grid-tied systems that always have small errors in regulating the power to 0 at the grid connection (if you dont want to feed in at a retain point in daytime). So in an off-grid system there is also no point in having an extra grid-meter to measure the excess solar power because there is nowhere for it to go and the system will just end up no generating any surplus. Usually solar tracking with EV charing stations use the surplus of a grid meter as basis to adjust EV charing power. To achieve a similar behaviour in an off-grid system you would have to calculate the car's charging power in a different way - most likely with an EMS before the solar battery is fully charged (if you want it to be automated anyway). Way easier in short term is to use the charging station in manual mode, but then you have to personally manage all of your EVs yourself.

[@ericverlaet4447]

No you can adjust paramètres, it work very nice . You must read all's the instructions on the website off Victron. It depend also off the car Ex the Zoe will not charge below 100 A

[@ando3807]

@@ericverlaet4447 Which parameter? How would the Victron system know how much solar excess there is in an off-grid situation and if the battery is full? What do you mean by 100A with the Zoe? If you speak of AC charging current, I don't think the Zoe is capable of such currents. If you mean solar system battery discharge current, how would the Zoe know how much the current in the victron dc-system is and why would the car decide not to charge below that value? I don't doubt the victron EVCS is working well with excess solar in an on-grid situation, but your statements confuse me. Please tell me if you know how it works in an off-grid situation, I'm genuinely interested.

[@AlsinoFerreira]

😎

[@Juergen_Miessmer]

Really nice your new Car. I'm looking forward to a video about it. They seem to be available in Germany, but have a very high price. What have you paid for it in Australia ?

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

It was A$36k down here. We also got A$1k discount from the dealer plus 5yrs free servicing (@A$99/a). The gov gives us A$6k incentives on top, so comes down to a really great price. Vehicle has 10yrs warranty with no km limit. The Chinese must be really confident in what they are building.

[@ChFrank]

Hallo Andi, Why you didn't by the Dolphin BYD? Was it to expensive? I am looking forward to a video on your new car.

[@AllElectricLiving]

Hi Andy , does the Ora have V2L ?? I have a victron quattro 2 and use the generator connection to take power from a V2L car to my home

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

No V2L with the Ora. I have 200kWh of batteries in the garage, so don't need the 'small' car battery.

[@MichaelSchmelzer-d6h]

In germany first price was about 650-750€, now is cost round about 450€

[@olafschermann1592]

GWM Ora Review, please !

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Let's see. That would be something for the car channel.

[@edwardvanhazendonk]

​@@OffGridGarageAustraliaif Silke allows 😂 but great to see a nice red car on your premise.

[@philippbieringer6499]

Second!!! Greetings from Germany

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Close second🥉

[@typxxilps]

we got a second Pulsar Plus Wallbox from Wallbox the manufacturer - 250€ for 11 kW charger with ocpp supporting EVCC Surplus charging. And EVCC is free cause as EVCC says the Pulsar plus Wallbox has a good Karma. Otherwise it would be 100$ lifetime or 2$ / month. We have Victron free solar system.

[@ilanozana9652]

The ev charger need to connect through a swich about one meter or so from the ev.so no problem connecting it first.

[@chuksobi593]

Vitron and their simplicity, other companies would seal this whole internal components, making it look like it's some high-tech stuff. Who knows, esp32 could handle this

[@vladimirsteenen]

Very good charger, but there is no way to be able to work at 60 Hz A and I like that video that hase continues like this.

[@TheDefpom]

$900 still seems pretty expensive considering what is actually inside the box, I think maybe $50 of parts.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Like with your smart phone. But you pay $1000 for it.

[@ThanosSustainable]

The contactor alone is over $50

[@TheDefpom]

@@ThanosSustainable will be less than that for bulk purchases for manufacturing.

[@edwardvanhazendonk]

In the Netherlands it's around €375 with display. Sure you can make it for that money, but others are pricier and have less features and Victron is doing a good job keeping standards open and support is good. I paid €500 6 years ago for an OpenEVSE and that had it's flaws, sure you could tinker around with the Open Source but not all was ok to change. So looking forward to more content on this Victron EVSE

[@torstenb5248]

Looks more like a mediocre diy project than a commercial product.

[@upnorthandpersonal]

Same. Not what I would expect from Victron, and definitely not with that price tag.

[@jamess1787]

Makes me want to DiY an EV charger.... But no EV to charge, yet. 🤔

[@upnorthandpersonal]

@@jamess1787 I had a reply typed out, but YT deleted it. Maybe you got it in your notification or email anyway... Short story: better and cheaper elsewhere.

[@notathome13]

Victron - you can also purchase better but you will never pay more and get buggy software to boot.

[@m_cabral]

@@jamess1787OpenEVSE for North America and Japan and another project for Europe exists. The latter (I’m forgetting the name) is implemented as a DIN rail component so it’s very easy to DIY.

[@alexsimmons1803]

OCPP? OCPP chargers can be controlled with Home Assistant and you can automate charging rates as it suits you system's generation capacity.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

To complex. It will be a plug'n play charger with manual settings.

[@boringsoftware2093]

NüsterKlemme 4 the win X-D

[@moestrei]

Lüsterklemme

[@boringsoftware2093]

@@moestrei Lüsterne Nüsterklemme

[@brucekrisko4364]

How do you connect it to the car? Did it come with a double plug cable?

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Yeah, it has the Type2 socket under the front lid where I placed the sticker. You can see it at the beginning of the video.

[@yanziqiang]

You may wanna look into at least 32s 96V pack for meaningful charging speed such as 4kW. I’m not fond of DC current more than 50A. Off grid market not ready yet for reliable, safe n easy EV charging setup.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

We're not into fast charging. We just don't have the need to charge fast. It can trickle charge on 6A for hours, no problem. If needed, we can adjust the charging to 16A.

[@henvan8737]

The electronics inside the box looks a bit of a mish mess. Appears to be hand built, can it be used outside of the Victron universe.

[@ernestkooistra1559]

✌️

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Hello!

[@zaprodk]

I like Victron equipment, but really, that's is a visually very LOUD design. I don't think anyone non-tech savvy would like that design :D

[@QuicktanStudio]

Hi, I've been looking at the EG 6000XP which seems to streamline everything very simply. Is there a reason why it would not be used in Australia? My husband and I have followed you for 3 years, and always intended to power our off grid home with all your knowlege helping us, but very very sadly, he has past 1:02 away, and I'm now doing it all solo. So it has to be simple. I've had every intension of using victron, because as we have switched to thst for our camper trailer, the EG4 6000XP seems to only need the distribution boards.... is it too good to be true? Not needing this separate car charger to do the car. ???

[@MichaelSchmelzer-d6h]

I am charging with the EV charger 1x BMW i3s 42kWh/Akku 1pahse up to 6.4KW and 1x Nissan LEAF Akku 62KWh 1 phase up to 6.4KW works well

[@megan-xudiantong]

great

[@solarbaer]

Bin gespannt wie es in sunny hot australia funktioniert. Hier in sunny hot germany gibt es ,zumindest bei meiner, das Problem dass das Display einfriert sobald die Temperaturen über 30 Grad steigen. Ich habs reklamiert aber bis jetzt keine Rückmeldung..... Das Problem ist laut victron community nicht unbekannt.....

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Maybe an outlier. Then, they should replace the station altogether. We will see how hot it will run in our summer.

[@honumoorea873]

450€ in france if you search a little.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Can't tell if this is a good price or ...?

[@atonduke7612]

Is it just me or does it seem like the proximity pilot is not connected? The proximity pilot is used to determine what current the cable is capable of handling. Without it you could plug in a 16 amp cable to a 32 amp EVSE and a 32 amp car, and have 32 amps being drawn through the 16 amp cable. And we all know how that could end, right?

[@moestrei]

The PP has a resistor to earth in the cars side plug. This resistor controls the max Amp the cars ac charger can take using that particular cable. At the charge adapter side no PP connection is required. The actual current supplied is controlled by the CP and the 1kHz PWM signal is generated by the wall adapter.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Interesting...

[@zoom_h2625]

@@moestreiBut without knowing the max. Current of the cable the wall box can’t stop charging if the car wants more current than possible. While testing a wall box it is always a check that the CP signal is limiting the max. Current to the limit of the cable. In case of a failed the wall box should protect you for worker thinks. See EN 61851-1:2011. You are right if you have a fix cable on the wall box. Than the wall box knows the max current of the fix cable and only the care has to know the max. Curren.

[@moestrei]

@@zoom_h2625 The wall box CP limits the current the ac charger of the car is allowed to take to what the switchboard can provide. The cables PP limits the current the ac charger is allowed to take to what the cable can handle. Say the Switchboard can supply 32A but the cable can handle 16A only then the CP PWM'S duty cycle will command 32A but the resistor in the PP will tell the cars ac charger to take 16A only. Take a Type 2 to Type 2 cable. Measure the resistance PP to Earth on the car side connecor. You will get a reading of a few 100 Ohms. Measure the other end: It is open circuit.

[@zoom_h2625]

@@moestrei Nope see EN IEC 61851-1:2019 Picture C.3. PE is used as Potential for CP + PP. The EV charger has to monitor that current will not exceeds the max. Current of the used cable. Previously, the EV charger had to refuse charging if the charging cable could not carry the maximum current of the EV charger

[@edc1569]

Looks like a mk1 prototype, nothing necessarily wrong with that, just can’t imagine its good value.

[@switzerland3696]

Looks like a first gen that is just out of prototype.

[@phillipmoore4492]

I have a victron ev charger it's the Oval one

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

The one without display. I've seen that as well.

[@andreasroge7218]

Moin 👍👍👌

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Moin Andi

[@marc_2398]

My first question: can it ‘uncharge’ your car? In other words: can you use your car as a battery for your off grid home?

[@upnorthandpersonal]

No, you need V2L support in the car for one, and a bi-directional charger which this is not. You typically use a dedicated cable supplied by the car manufacturer to access V2L.

[@Stefanfj]

this box does not contain an inverter and doesn't connect to any vehicle's DC side, so there is no way for this box to do V2H

[@MichaelSchmelzer-d6h]

I work with it now 1/2 a year, only disadvantage what I could find it works with wifi only, and has no ethernet RJ45 port

[@jeremydumoit4487]

They use the ESP32 in a lot of LORA devices these days.

[@cyberplebs6577]

🐸🐸🐸

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

🥈

[@legominimovieproductions]

As a german electrician who has installed a couple of wallboxes, about 15 different models so far, the victron EVCS really looks horrible to install as you usually have solid 6mm2 cables which will cause some problems in those hard screw terminals, being moved afterwards

[@Juergen_Miessmer]

It seems like only german electricians use solid wires....😉

[@williamos1985]

so it looks horrible, but actually never installed one personally...

[@legominimovieproductions]

@@williamos1985 That is exactly what I said. I have installed enough devices that are built similar to the victron evcs to know that it will be a pita

[@legominimovieproductions]

@@Juergen_Miessmer What do other countries use? Fine strades wire? And then the spanish solder dip as a "connector"?😂😂

[@electro2606]

@@legominimovieproductionsi use the indian fuse system be sure to wear youre flipflops when connecting a wire on a live system

[@outbackev-hunter6035]

i would suggest to wire the Charger up to a 3 phase 32amp aussie plug to when you come and visit us in Alice Springs you can take it off the wall and use as a portable EVSE dor AEVA TOCA 22kw network ( then wire up the shed with 3 phase socket with only Phase A connected for 32amp single to suit the off grid Garage...!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Hello, my friend from far away! We really don't need three phase for charging. We have so much time and can trickle charge both vehicles on low AC single phase. In fact, we have now converted the whole house to single phase.

[@TheDefpom]

wow, a Victron device that isn't fully potted to prevent you opening it!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

You can open all Victron devices if you desire.

[@TheDefpom]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Maybe, but usually it is destroyed in the process.

[@scalty2008]

Victron MPPT for sure only if you destroy it

[@mikenr]

Ahhhhh!!!! I paid 1200 euros for one of these, about 18 months ago - now version 2 is available for 455 euros in europe! 😭

[@RayJohnson1980]

Why not look at the sigenergy and there dc ev charger To get around, the on board. 11 kilowatt limit ac limit

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Because I have a Victron ecosystem already. Makes no sense to go elsewhere.

[@opless]

First!!!

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

🥇

[@peterle987]

Wow, such an empty box with simple components and such a high grade price. Thats "early adopter milking" of EV-enthusiasts. Unbelievable...

[@clarencewiles963]

92.5 keep it moving 😂😊

[@skystephan]

For a Victron system it's shocking in my opinion. I bought the NS version a while ago just for testing purposes. The fact that there is no automatic switchover from 1 to 3 phases is a no-go for me. What I find worse is that the preparations are already there on the board and in the software but have not been implemented. I replaced the chint contactor with 2 25a contactors and changed the software. It works in my small system with limitations but all in all I think it's a shame that Victron brought such crap onto the market. A network port would also have been desirable.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

What switchover from 1 to 3 phases?

[@zoom_h2625]

If your care is single phase too. Than there are 2 ways. Just connect 1 phase, or if the wall box is checking the voltage, Just bridge you phase 1 to phase 2 & 3. I use many Wallboxes for demo with a single phase plug with out a problem.

[@scalty2008]

No network cable or bus system for connecting to Victron is bad. I know WiFi is simple, but cable stuff more reliable

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Would not work for me in this remote installation location anyway. Wifi is fine. My whole Cerbo and Pi runs on Wifi for years without issues.

[@Soul-Spirit-SS]

Still not bi-directional so you can charge your car from a fast charger and then power your home.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

I don't want to.

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

Like# 1,1nn - oui

[@junkerzn7312]

Pretty huge profit margin considering that the thing only has about $150 worth of parts inside it.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Isn't that the case with almost all devices?

[@junkerzn7312]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Not to that degree. Victron is leaning on their brand to over-price the device. There really isn't much to an EVSE. It is literally just a contactor, current sense, temperature sense (for the nozzle that plugs into the car), PWM/comms output, and a simple protocol, and its done. The most expensive part is the contactor. The network stack is built into the microprocessor.

[@YasirHabib93]

Hiiiiii late joiner plz suggestions want to make my own battery please suggest your video in which u explain all process i like your explanation watching your videos in Pakistan 48v 100ah battery i have solax 6kw hybrid inverter also difference in using 16 15 17 cells

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Hello, far too many to point to. I have hundreds of videos showing the processes involved in all details. Welcome to the channel.

[@Yaitsme-60x]

I just need to ask you one thing, for 900$ does it cook you breakfast ?

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

... and irons your shirts!

[@Yaitsme-60x]

@@OffGridGarageAustralia hahahaha good to laugh thx.

[@firefly2472]

As a dutch sparky, that thing looks absolutly terrible to install.

[@williamos1985]

so it looks horrible, but actually never installed one personally...

[@firefly2472]

@@williamos1985 Yeah! Think so to.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

It took like 5 min to install it. I gave the sparky a hand so wasn't a big deal after all. Just a bit different to what you would expect.

[@cascallana2626]

What a snake nest of cables inside this car charger

[@ElectronTinkerer]

Hmm. This plastic housing looks so sketchy. That's no comparison to the other heavy duty Victron stuff. And it's quite expensive in comparison to other known brands.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

It's not expensive down here. You pay way over A$1k for other stations which don't have any of these features.

[@sc0or]

Do you see something for $900 inside, sir? Its retail price is $300 for my eyes. They milk EV enthusiasts because "EV is expensive because you pay for a green planet bla-bla-bla"

[@kchiem]

Why? Because it was free.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

🤦‍♂️

[@martdaymo]

That's just a reminder of how overrated victron products are! The quality over the last 5 years is going downhill faster than a avalanche..

[@HeinrichErnst1]

Das Innenleben sieht schon recht lieblos zusammengeschraubt und billig aus. Die Lüsterklemme für die Leistung ist..na ja... Da will man ja die nächsten jahre ein paar MWh durchjagen. Neee... Auch die Rückwandverschraubung ist nicht schön. Würde ich nach dem video nicht kaufen. Und schon gar nicht für das Geld! Den Drahthaufen liefert der Chinese dann sogar hübscher und billiger... Danke für die Einblicke.

[@MMMM2MMMM2MMMM]

I agree, it is a very ugly mailbox.