Why All Products Look The Same: Industrial Design Trends

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Design Theory

Design Theory

2 жыл бұрын

Industrial Design trends are heavily influenced by online social media platforms. This video talks about the implications behind the phenomenon of algorithmic populism. Product design and culture will never be the same again. But that's not necessarily a bad thing!
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@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Enroll in my online industrial design course, Form Fundamentals. bit.ly/335vsqO ...I'll teach you about visual storytelling, design language, and form. It will ultimately make you a designer that is better prepared for the professional world.
@carlosdlguerra
@carlosdlguerra 2 жыл бұрын
Funily enough, youtube sugested me to watch a guy telling me that algorithms are showing everyone the same design style
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
I have also realized the irony of this ;)
@faizanbaber
@faizanbaber 2 жыл бұрын
exactly what i thought
@BlastinRope
@BlastinRope 2 жыл бұрын
The 'algo' wields vast amount of power of the direction culture takes, it is fully analogous to our collective subconcious.
@billjamal4764
@billjamal4764 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommends me videos talking about how everyone should stop using KZbin and that Google is evil😂
@SuperAmit010
@SuperAmit010 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the irony
@pauloraposo8674
@pauloraposo8674 2 жыл бұрын
When i watched futuristic movies i used to find quite unrealistic how everything in the future was depicted as being aesthetically homogenous, but now it seems like it's where we're heading to.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 2 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@pauloraposo8674
@pauloraposo8674 2 жыл бұрын
@Narja Minority Report for example, where everything in the future has the same clean, clear aesthetic.
@mattwhornby
@mattwhornby 2 жыл бұрын
And those movies probably influenced a lot of the designers of today!
@callumnash3236
@callumnash3236 2 жыл бұрын
Design tends to be homogenous as a result of the profit motive. It's risky to try novel aesthetic designs and generally more profitable to be conservative, and take ques from the competition, offering only slight differentiation. Especially as companies move from small scale passion projects to large scale enterprises, the function of the company changes to being about returning profits to shareholders more so than creating innovation. I've worked in studios where I've developed better designs that were cheaper and more sustainable, and these were rejected by the client simply because they wanted to copy what they'd done the previous year.
@Vysair
@Vysair 2 жыл бұрын
@Narja we are in dystopia already though only at baby step
@HamiltonProvonsha
@HamiltonProvonsha 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really hoping there can be a resurgence of intricate beauty in design. Think of old world furniture and pottery, with little flowers and vines painted on nearly everything. Think of the hand carved wood and stone. No one was thinking, “what’s the most cost effective way to do this?” but rather “how can I make this beautiful?” There was some faint echo of that in the arts and crafts movement, but where have we gone since then? So many of these new trends are sickeningly bland and devoid of that human factor.
@cryonim
@cryonim 2 жыл бұрын
more synthetic and less of that human detail eh ? It's a shame how easy it is to make things using modern tools and sculpt things easily and yet instead of going for more intricate models we turned 180 and thought "how can i save cost on this" to make simpler models. I guess ease is a curse in this situation.
@thomas.thomas
@thomas.thomas 2 жыл бұрын
If one just speaks of form, it is also easier to clean simple ones
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch 2 жыл бұрын
Give me your phone, I will happily draw on it.
@greentriumph1643
@greentriumph1643 2 жыл бұрын
If I could change a word I think that what we want is intrinsic beauty. Art is good. Some art in design, for beauty and cultural relevancy is important. When did our profession become the enemy of art and artistry to worship itself on the alter of minimalism?
@1Kaisermerlin
@1Kaisermerlin 2 жыл бұрын
Just one thing. Revival Furniture. Its not that intricate cant be mass produced and an aestethic that was never the issue.
@toboloso
@toboloso 2 жыл бұрын
There's also an aspect of globalization. The ability for designers from all over the world to easily view the most popular global design diminishes local variation.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. Algorithmic populism is really only one piece of the puzzle. In truth, it's many things.
@bobsykes
@bobsykes 2 жыл бұрын
Exactlly the same problem in the music industry. Spotify, Apple Music, etc., all promote tunes that the average listener picks, meaning a narrower and narrower selection of music is offered to a new listener looking for somethingh on a platform. We used to have Radio DJ's in big music cities, and college radio DJs, that made their life's work exploring and finding new things that they thought had a chance, and exposing them to people. Losing that is a real setback.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
I love this comment. Thank you
@thomas.thomas
@thomas.thomas 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Merzbow and the harsh noise genre if you'd like something new
@volundrfrey896
@volundrfrey896 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree, most people used to listen to the major radio stations. And those stations typically played the same lowest common denominator crap, most radio dj's was and are hired because they can keep people listening and not for selecting the music. You can still find people talking about and exploring music online today.
@ryanmish4961
@ryanmish4961 2 жыл бұрын
As a devil’s advocate, today places like TikTok are serving that purpose more and more
@ThePorkChannel
@ThePorkChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Spotify is recommending me loads of small bands with less than 1000 listeners a month
@_sqrrl3299
@_sqrrl3299 2 жыл бұрын
* while showing a rendering of a mechanical keyboard: * "Community of obsessively passionate users" Boy could you ever not be more right...
@quasarcreator
@quasarcreator 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who just got into the custom keyboard scene, I thought the same thing and had a good laugh about it
@andyzhang9928
@andyzhang9928 2 жыл бұрын
tbh RAMA's product advertisement videos are just nutty to watch
@Laotzu.Goldbug
@Laotzu.Goldbug 2 жыл бұрын
Alex I'll take _Neoliberal Consumerist Democracy As An Aesthetic_ for $500
@SpudSpudoni
@SpudSpudoni 2 жыл бұрын
I've definitely had my eye on this phenomenon for a few years now. It seems like we've now hit the point of a serious feedback loop. I've always had some problem with "designing for instagram" vs "designing for purpose", and I wonder how a few classes of designers in the coming years viewing and adding to this, will change how we approach the creative process. I think the most damning thing to our industry and searching for ideas or inspiration has been our commodification of 'likes'. Even the top designers and brands on instagram and similar, are all looking for new engaging content, and even the biggest at times (ex. Yanko) will post pretty garbage ideas and processes but will still get thousands of likes and interactions. How is a young designer supposed to see through that and understand that just because something has thousands of likes, doesn't mean it's good? Does a design with 25-100 likes mean its bad? I guess that's something the next generations of designers will have to decipher and understand for themselves, but I think there's a conversation to be had, especially in school, about how industrial design may evolve in the next 5-10 years.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Occasionally, I'll ask my students to show me a design that they find especially great and tell me why they like it. A lot of the time, the design is total garbage from a usability perspective. There's no real way to know this from an image unless you have experience as a designer. I think that the ability to discern good design from design that looks good on social media (notice the distinction) simply comes with time. I think that these social media platforms should be viewed as tools. They are unthinking and uncaring. The platforms simply respond to what gets engagement. They can be abused, or they can be leveraged. Speaking for myself, I leverage the hell out of social media as much as I possibly can. I deliberately pick thumbnails and choose video titles that I believe will get clicks. I'm not creative with it. I just copy what I see works with other channels. But I always make sure that the CONTENT of the video is meaningful and presents at least a somewhat thought-provoking point of view. My point in saying this is that I leverage the algorithm to the best of my abilities, but I don't let it dictate my creativity where it matters most. It's not going away any time soon, so you need to embrace it rather than ignore it. I think that's a healthy approach to social media platforms as it relates to design. Just my humble opinion.
@SpudSpudoni
@SpudSpudoni 2 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory I think having discourse or open conversations with students about the design world through social media is a great learning exercise. I agree with the thought that social media is a tool you can use to your advantage if you want to. There's plenty of ways to network and connect with other like minded creatives, and promote your own work. I definitely do it with hashtags myself. I guess it again just comes down to intention for me. There's nothing wrong inherently with finding success from badly designed, well rendered images, and there's nothing wrong with promoting it from a larger account. I just wonder how much of the zeitgeist will change over time. For HR, or people hiring designers at a company with no real design background, looking at design through the lens of these kind of social media posts, how will the hiring process change? Will we start getting portfolios with more flash, and less substance? Not being negative at all about it, but it is an interesting topic to think about, especially in a classroom setting.
@mylou1231
@mylou1231 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpudSpudoni This is a very interesting conversation. I'm going back to school next hear in industrial design, and this is exactly what I want to know before I even start learning to at least have a critical mind when it comes to inspiration.
@finnianfaitz
@finnianfaitz 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most crucial things my course leader said when I started my Product & Industrial Design BA last year was that our course is only ranked 6th in the world because in order to be ranked higher they’d have to meet the demands of the industry and they’re focused instead on the future, both in a personal and industrial context. I knew i’d chosen the right course at that moment.
@AmstradExin
@AmstradExin 2 жыл бұрын
Feedback loop. That's what I also noticed.
@TheBIBco
@TheBIBco 2 жыл бұрын
That bit about how finding design trends on Pinterest actually homogenizes our design styles because we all end up looking at the same images is a really interesting insight!! Thanks for sharing
@jakx2ob
@jakx2ob 2 жыл бұрын
Consistently coming up with actually novel designs that are good takes skilled people and a lot of time. Even then it still takes more marketing effort than when adapting already popular design patterns. As a user it's also an advantage when multiple brands produce similar looking things. This way when I already got a couple of things from brand A, the thing from brand B won't look out of place. For a company creating a completely new design only makes sense if they think they will be able to sell an entire product line at a premium price. Strong brand recognition.
@drebone1986
@drebone1986 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that after fighting against a dated looking future design we somehow all settled on a 1960s futuristic look, every piece of tech now is either extremely round or very square, nothing else and also two colors smashed together, can't remember the last triangle or octagon since the iPhone premiered, everybody bit them and Samsung later and never looked back
@braunarsch
@braunarsch 2 жыл бұрын
As an industrial designer, i've been wondering if there was anyone who would do discussions like this.... glad i found this video. subbed!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!!
@wilb.-wilbertvanveldhuizen5664
@wilb.-wilbertvanveldhuizen5664 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've definitely seen this in my field as well. I've been a 3D animation and Motiongraphic designer for about 7 years now. And a lot of designers in my field have started to design things that do well on social media more and more. It, for instance, limits people to certain styles and projects that aren't too time-consuming. They start making more things like ''colorful moving blob animation-loops'' instead of projects like shortfilms that actually tell a cool/inspired story. Which in my opinion is a bit of a shame...
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell a story with colorful blobs. But I know what you mean. It’s very much focused on striking visuals. I think that the more this trend gets cemented, the easier it will be for others to stand out by going against it. Let the others follow the trend, and let the select few trailblazers carve a new path
@dannybrandon2822
@dannybrandon2822 2 жыл бұрын
Working in the 3D field myself I say it is a shame, but on the other hand: You, just like me, know how the industry works. Especially in this field if you want to gain attention, you kinda have to do what is trendy right now. And even though the job description says "motion graphic artist" or "3D Artist", we are still more often like designers in some way and always in dependency on what the customer wants.
@TwixtheFox
@TwixtheFox 2 жыл бұрын
I think a good idea that would solve this type of issue would be allowing a "diverse filter" to the search filters, showing you tons of different types of images.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Love that idea. I think AI and more complex algorithms could save us from this as well.
@willbroadway
@willbroadway Жыл бұрын
Also open stuff up in incognito mode
@TwixtheFox
@TwixtheFox Жыл бұрын
@@willbroadway True! But most things pushed to the front pages of any type of social platforms are very screened and seemingly hand picked / stuff that has a lot of algorithm traction. It's content that the algorithm sees is getting a lot of traction and thus it pushes it to the front, and continues to do so because that's what brings people in. Therefore it's not as diverse. But it does help a bit! Then there's also some platforms that straight up ask you stuff you're interested in when you sign up, which I think is kind of neat if they keep the algorithms more loose.
@BeIlG
@BeIlG 2 жыл бұрын
For the rendering of mock ups, I completely agree. As an illustrator, I work with lots of private sector clients. They believe most of the time that the finalized rendering and draft are the same thing. They do not realize the amount of effort and cost that would create and isn't necessary as long as there is a final product I have made is up to a polished level they like.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of it comes down to laying out expectations ahead of time. Usually with a proposal, I'll show them what each phase will look like in terms of fidelity.
@Rafagafanhotobra
@Rafagafanhotobra 2 жыл бұрын
Funny is that, as much groundbreaking the looks of the Cybertruck are, algorythms must also have helped them to forge the idea, as the trend of 80's retro-futurism has been hyped for the last 10 years. So it is wildly different, but also follows a mainstream trend.
@onkarlanke7225
@onkarlanke7225 2 жыл бұрын
Thats so true about high quality renders. We dont make these in practical & clients expecting these nowadays for everything. We have to explain thats not necessary to communicate ideas.
@kaitlint3987
@kaitlint3987 2 жыл бұрын
You're definitely on to something. I always figured it was us becoming culturally stuck due to our idea of what futuristic/modern design was,most of that language comes from the 60's and 70's bruener and such. Mix that with how much cheaper these simpler form factors are to mass produce
@Project-Air
@Project-Air 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying binging these videos since I discovered your channel earlier today! Subbed!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It means a lot coming from a fellow KZbinr. Just checked out your channel. Cool stuff!
@Project-Air
@Project-Air 2 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory Cheers!
@OrionAerospace
@OrionAerospace 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy fancy seeing you here! We just got recommended this too 😂 really cool videos!
@Project-Air
@Project-Air 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrionAerospace Omg!
@kantorobo7718
@kantorobo7718 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrionAerospace was q
@NicoFromTheWaves
@NicoFromTheWaves 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been a brand strategist and designer for around 15 years, and noticed the same trend towards ‘blandification’. There seems to finally be some pushback, as seen in examples such as Burberrys logo, as well as heritage maximalist brands in the luxury space. Given that many mid market consumer trends echo luxury directions, perhaps we’ll see a greater shift… love your channel by the way!
@xDaShaanx
@xDaShaanx 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is because of Over-simplification. I read a comment somewhere that in 10 years all we are going to see is circle and square as logos.
@dezukaful
@dezukaful 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. Made me realize how there's also a parallel with trends in concept art. Where a certain skill level is achieved a lot of stuff looks really similar.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Another thing is that if we're all using similar tools, it only makes sense that the output/final product will be similar. That's why it's so important to diversify your skillset.
@abhikdas8464
@abhikdas8464 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays very few industrial designers are raw and direct, most of them are pretentious and over dependent on software renders to make their product look dreamy instead of frugal and functional for so called "portfolio" enhancement. Gone are the good old days.
@aboseds9384
@aboseds9384 2 жыл бұрын
That's what my studio's design manager said a few days back 😢
@707kuma3
@707kuma3 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the new products are boring now
@ReastArtZ
@ReastArtZ 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to you having a very differentiated viewpoint! I hate these video in which people do nothing but whine about things they personally don't like instead of critically looking at the reasons why things are like that. (Minimalistic Logos, ...). Really enjoy your videos!
@khj5582
@khj5582 2 жыл бұрын
More and more of design is done in China for "no-name" brands, which are desperate to appear cool and hip. And if there is one thing the Chinese are good at...
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
My next video is about this
@ralphlaurencelopezdeleon3539
@ralphlaurencelopezdeleon3539 2 жыл бұрын
its communism. yep
@MaseraSteve2
@MaseraSteve2 2 жыл бұрын
Heh, finally somebody mentioned it. Instead of ripping existing products they may ripped a concept from online designer instead...
@princegoatcheese9379
@princegoatcheese9379 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this trend is more inline with what you mentioned near the beginning of the video: standardization of parts. The appeal is no matter what car or armchair or food processor you own, there will be a part you need to fix it should it break down. This is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it's great knowing that if anything broke on a product, it'll be very easy to analyze and repair. On the other hand, this leads to more homogenized designs. Vehicle manufacturers are probably the biggest culprit of the homogenization design trend, as nearly all new vehicles I see being rolled out for consumers look similar. Right now, it's hard for me to differentiate between car models in a parking lot. I don't mean "everything in the past was better", I mean designers are taking advantage of standardization to the point where designs become harder to distinguish.
@NicholasBaker
@NicholasBaker 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos to date!!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks Nick!
@SeidenFisk
@SeidenFisk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, I'm just a CAD hobbyist but I always gain some new knowledge or understanding of industrial design from you
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
That's the goal ;) Thank you so much for watching, I appreciate it.
@sethhalloran1438
@sethhalloran1438 2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm's = feedback loops that lead to a consensus on a topic for the majority of a population. The biases we introduce in these algorithms is a really interesting subject as well. Great video.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I could easily do an entire series on this.
@peterhub1
@peterhub1 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Our preferences are influenced by so many things. Both by what we are forced to experience and what we choose to experience.
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 2 жыл бұрын
So, what you’re saying is… Designers don’t use privacy-focused browsers like Brave and Firefox?
@FrancisLukesh
@FrancisLukesh 2 жыл бұрын
Most modern browsers, including Chrome and Edge, have robust privacy controls, including blocking fingerprinting and other tracking strategies; and just to note that Brave is also a Chromium-based browser. The thing is that you have to take active steps to use these privacy features, and doing so affects your browsing experience. In other words, some personalization and tracking is a good thing. In my opinion, it's more an issue about being intentional about how you use the tools you use than the tools themselves. In other words, just using Firefox or Brave doesn't make your experience inherently better or more private by default, and depending on context, you may want to enable some tracking, and disable it in others.
@The_CGA
@The_CGA 2 жыл бұрын
The point is to say, if someone has trackers following them around everywhere they go, they will get spoon-fed a prejudiced stream of content as opposed to 'the real internet.' Within the context of industrial design and trends, this is key to one's sense of individual creativity. The worm-eating-its-own-tail problem of cohort tracking within the context of creativity in design is the subject of this video. Turning some stuff off or on, one will inevitably end up leaving a breadcrumb trail back to the data accumulators that are FB and AdSense, which then feed cohort data back up the chain. for those of us that seek to create content or objects for other people, Trackers belong off. obviously login tokens and stuff are a normal part of existing
@TradieTrev
@TradieTrev 2 жыл бұрын
I love classic electric switches and outlets; The design hasn't changed much in the last 100 years. All I care about for my customers is having a good quality part that can last the test of time; Care little for how the device looks but more about function. Whenever given a choice to consumers on appearance most typically can't justify the extra costs of having something designer than standard.
@parameshranjith3295
@parameshranjith3295 2 жыл бұрын
Totally explains to me why it was always about Renderings, high fidelity sketches in Instagram
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. It's what gets clicks.
@MrUratox
@MrUratox 2 жыл бұрын
great video as always. When I started to work, I was surprised that none of my colleagues took the time to create good renderings for the client. i thought they would waste a chance to sell the concept. Now that I am involved in numerous projects, often only screenshots directly from the CAD are used for communication. Guess i will need to rerender everything for my Portfolio xD
@nlsantiesteban
@nlsantiesteban 2 жыл бұрын
I think that these questions are pursued in depth by various fields including critical theory, visual theory, film studies, lit studies, etc. This reminds me of questions posed by Walter Gropius and the Bauhaus school.
@ShaneSpenceDesign
@ShaneSpenceDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and very well articulated points! I often find I'm easily influenced by algorithms on Pinterest and IG, so have been trying to source inspiration from nature and various industries. I think trying these form and cmf trends for practice exercises is harmless, as long as you remember to keep them separate from your design work.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. It's good to know what's going on, but you shouldn't necessarily integrate it into your professional work. Sometimes it makes senses to, sometimes it doesn't. It's all context-dependent.
@vitoria.no.c
@vitoria.no.c 2 жыл бұрын
I love this discussion. We do need to talk about the impact algorithms have on our loves
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
It goes way beyond design, believe me!
@BenCaesar
@BenCaesar 2 жыл бұрын
Great point on being aware of the algorithms selection process!
@SamRainer
@SamRainer 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great take! I think this is absolutely true for a lot of things. There are so many photographers these days who only get their inspiration algorithmically fed to them and all end up creating nearly identical content. The sad irony of course is that they succeed at the behest of the very same algorithm and continue the cycle.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
So true! I've noticed it across many fields, both creative and otherwise.
@ThePrashantrao
@ThePrashantrao 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best video ever!!!!!! So apt, the whole idea of super qualitative / realistic rendering also leads to the whole idea of being left out, FOMO? Making you feel that you aren’t really good until you are rounding off the surfaces. Well the truth is otherwise!! Concept art is infact the best inspiration. Thank you so much for an amazing video, vents out every product designer’s feeling very clearly.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for checking out the video and for the kind words!
@designbykaroline
@designbykaroline 2 жыл бұрын
Great video John! Definitely agree with you - designers are a bubble just like any other and like all bubbles they slowly become homogenous due to the lack of new input. Universities joining social media and actively trying to grow their accounts are a big part of this as well in my opinion. When we sell knowledge via easily digestible "pretty pictures", we miss the point of education (and design for that matter). But essentially, our entire society is built around a constant stream of pretty pictures, glorifying average lives and average designs - I am going to stop myself here :'D
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, as you probably already noticed, I featured your work. So congrats on that. One thing I wanted to make clear is that these algorithms aren't bad, necessarily. It's easy to vilify them. You just need to accept them for what they are and use them as a tool. The more people rely on trends, the easier it will be for you to smash through the norms and do something crazy and different.
@timcameron9023
@timcameron9023 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel, been noticing what you describe for a while (I've been calling it 'peak design') Thanks for clearing it up. Subbed.
@ryanhume216
@ryanhume216 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video! Hope this sparks more interesting conversations in our industry and encourages more designers to engage critically with what they see online
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights, Ryan!
@LameCorvette
@LameCorvette 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is so awesome!! The level of production quality is through the roof. I can't believe you only have 17k subs. You deserve many. more, hopefully you'll explode soon.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
I only had 300 subs a year ago :) Hopefully it continues to grow. Thank you so much for watching!
@toluwaseolushola8888
@toluwaseolushola8888 2 жыл бұрын
You just explained my thoughts on design conceptual framework in details. Thanks, definitely sharing this.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for sharing :)
@KingsBic
@KingsBic 2 жыл бұрын
This has been going on with Pop (Popular) Music influenced and played on radios by corporations etc. Until someone breaks the Mold and everyone copies off that
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I'm a musician and I have noticed it. There was a whole video called "the death of melody" on KZbin. You should check it out if you haven't already. It was the inspiration for my other video called the "Death of Detail"
@louis-charlesdufresne522
@louis-charlesdufresne522 2 жыл бұрын
Great video that sums it all. Truly enjoyable and will definitely follow these in the future!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for liking it enough to continue watching!
@jakobresch1847
@jakobresch1847 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video - thanks for opening my eyes to this!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I had a lot of fun making this one.
@javiergarciafelipe9392
@javiergarciafelipe9392 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much. I was aware of the social media and algorithm dinamic, despite I was using it for knowing what is out there an diferenciating muy ideas from that. I suppose that unconsciously you are being influenced by them anyway. Looking for inspiration outside internet seems obvious, but I rarely do it, I should do it more often. Great video by the way, your chanel is becoming an undismissable reference.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Your positive comments are what keep me going :)
@mleungphd
@mleungphd 2 жыл бұрын
As always, great work! Very insightful and I will share this with my students. :D
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Please do! That's an honor coming from you, Max! I always loved the way you taught. I still think about what you told us about how giant design consultancies are homogenizing culture, and they barely even hide that fact. It could be a topic for another video?
@phoebehill953
@phoebehill953 2 жыл бұрын
I love the phrase “algorithmic populism”.
@orti1283
@orti1283 2 жыл бұрын
you're bringing very high quality, somewhat concise material (I hate the new trend of going near or past 20 mins for something that could be exposed in half or a third of the time). Also unique, I hope your popularity skyrockets soon
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I try to keep my content super densely packed and bite-sized, like a neutron star. I don't usually succeed, but sometimes I get close.
@warcriminal911
@warcriminal911 2 жыл бұрын
that was the best sub pitch I’ve ever heard I’m not even into design but I subbed
@urmom5835
@urmom5835 2 жыл бұрын
this is why its important for your number one design goal to be uniqueness. all other factors are secondary
@amolongweno598
@amolongweno598 2 жыл бұрын
Kindle has recently added a suggestion menu called "different from my recent pruchases" which seems great but is probably also different in the same way
@devilichus
@devilichus 6 ай бұрын
Rounded corner is awesome. Rounded corner is my hardline. Rounded corner is a wonder, Rounded corner is timeless, Rounded corner is honest, Rounded corner is rounded and that's what makes it awesome. And accept that rounded corners can make most of the stuff look cool and complete the composition.
@davidsinclairmccabe8840
@davidsinclairmccabe8840 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Really interesting and hepful as a product design student!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@teguh.hofstee
@teguh.hofstee 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I actually kind of like about this trend is that it helps things blend into the background so that the things I actually care about can pop by showcasing their design. I don't need or want my humidifier to complete for visual attention alongside a toaster, but at the same time it's also unfortunate that a vast majority is tailoring to this average so sometimes your only options are average or nothing.
@mskim22
@mskim22 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, this is so nice content dealing with the ongoing self discussion in my head as an industrial designer looking at what is happening in this field for recent years.. One day, I thought like I become a slave of 'likes' and 'making more realistic and dramatic visuals' rather than thinking of better design solutions. I have also some of the portfolio following the trend on my web page. And when I took an interview with them, one of the interviewers was very offended about the works and just underrated them without the story. I got the impression that she was very sick of the flooding of social media looking concept dumps. It was an interesting experience though. Anyway..thank you for the content, it was very thoughtful! :)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some designers can get pretty cranky about this stuff. I try to be as measured and restrained as I can with this stuff :) Thank you for watching!
@jefflhama
@jefflhama 2 жыл бұрын
I think we lose when we don't talk about the mobilization of imaginary of a big brand. Since iPhone, apple used all their tatics and money to be a type of messiah and homogenized all general public design. To the point that some people think that the only way is the apple way, and it affected from products to ui and ux.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I notice many clients asking to "make it like apple"
@nnapolitx
@nnapolitx 2 жыл бұрын
That was really cool and insightful Johnny boy! Got me thinking about surfboard design too. For example how maybe social media might drive shapers to draw certain outlines. Idk if that actually happens or not but imagine how it might affect the development of surfboards!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. How did that truss on that railing turn out? Also, I think that the reason most surfboards are basically all the exact same with only slightly different dimensions is because surfers are kinda conservative when it comes to change. Surfers don't usually like to experiment with their equipment. They want to rely on whaat they know will work.
@nnapolitx
@nnapolitx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory i made the first one too big. My students have finals this week snd the waves have been really good, but I got an idea for the next one, I’ll send you photos
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnapolitx siiiiick
@vincentdeneale3466
@vincentdeneale3466 2 жыл бұрын
You have a nice flow with the info and you can make it easy to follow.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@cryonim
@cryonim 2 жыл бұрын
I like how everything in this video is laid out in a clean and systematic way, nice design!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@j.b4342
@j.b4342 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks mate for all this super helpfull content. 🏆👏
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Huskie
@Huskie 2 жыл бұрын
idk I kinda like it (makes it easier to have a coherent style without having to stick to one brand)
@zzz5602
@zzz5602 2 жыл бұрын
You could say they're getting "oversimplified"
@ace5
@ace5 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! Can't believe KZbin didn't suggest you earlier :))
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Cestial
@Cestial 2 жыл бұрын
As someone passionate about custom keyboards, that little bit at the end was a great example! Thanks, KZbin for recommending this to me :D
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're definitely a fun little niche. Thanks for watching that far into the video!
@JosifovGjorgi
@JosifovGjorgi 2 жыл бұрын
How to solve your issues ? Start using Qubes OS or new VM for every new search, that way the search algorithm don't have data on you
@mylou1231
@mylou1231 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much This video is very accurate and pertinent.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@thecianinator
@thecianinator 2 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant insight, and this exact thing has already been documented in pop music.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
This was a big source of inspiration for me.
@masonthompson3284
@masonthompson3284 2 жыл бұрын
wowowow! This so well balances being opinionated about the underlying causes while remaining neutral of the effects & how even the homogenous stuff still is good form & function. Everything you note within industrial is just as apt in graphic/web/motion design so I'm glad it's not just me noticing lolol While I'm not an industrial designer I'm super interested in the course!
@WarlordXial
@WarlordXial 2 жыл бұрын
This is the video that earns the subscription. Really useful and rare information and it’s saddening / interesting.
@94JAVS
@94JAVS 2 жыл бұрын
Since I started watching this video I had in mind what you mentioned halfway in the video. I think it has to do with the fact that so there are so many industrial design graduates nowadays. I would say you have a point in how these algorithms shape our understanding of what a good design is tho. But in the end, I would say that the designer community is somehow defining what the products should look like. On the other hand, I was taught design thinking and how to make things useful and not just beautiful and I feel many people are forgetting the usability aspect in their designs. Sure your toothbrush can be made out of metal and have beautiful groves on the handle but that thing is slippery as hell for sure and not to talk about the weight, because you don't want to give it a metal look but a cheap plastic feel when holding it, defeats the purpose. What I'm trying to say is that we achieved a pretty appealing aesthetic language but for sure there are many other things to keep in mind when designing. Objects are not renders. Things are not meant to be looked at forever. That last part is very well put man. This video was a joy to watch and to listen to. I will be checking that course.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really agree with your points here. Thank you so much for the thoughtful comments and conversation
@kenkioqqo
@kenkioqqo 2 жыл бұрын
Entertaining and informative video! Am just about to watch the next one from Design Theory.
@BerkKaplanDesigner
@BerkKaplanDesigner 2 жыл бұрын
Really good point, great video!! 👊👏
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@ideatorx
@ideatorx 2 жыл бұрын
The university I go to does the exact opposite focusing on anything but high fidelity renders or really deep technical rendering knowledge, and I appreciate it. I know im basically unemployable because my portfolio is based on research not glossy renderings but I'm okay with that.
@Emma4dfuture
@Emma4dfuture 2 жыл бұрын
What university are you attending?
@saysanku1
@saysanku1 Жыл бұрын
So Well put together !
@user-ws2me9xm8t
@user-ws2me9xm8t 3 ай бұрын
Good to understand logical patterns of people's perceivement
@axelkusanagi4139
@axelkusanagi4139 2 жыл бұрын
I love my open-source products with bare motherboard showing through, 3d printed cases and CNC markings.
@NevRS32
@NevRS32 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I usually go to the 80's to try and find anything "new". The future of that time is so much different than what we usually see today. Great video brother. Subscribed!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
So true! Thanks for the sub :)
@Cyclops0000
@Cyclops0000 2 жыл бұрын
All search/archive sites should be required by law to provide a few random, less popular results near the top.
@LaLaLA-ue1ho
@LaLaLA-ue1ho 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I found it thought provoking. 🤔🤔🤔
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@SerifSansSerif
@SerifSansSerif 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, everything looks the same, but it also has to do with standardization and the fact that we don't have a lot of new products anymore. I remember an article lamenting the lack of creativity in cell phones like we had when they first came out, and made the association with how cars started to take on the same look as well. So that's part of it. I think mass media influences, but also when your targeting the most amount of people, it makes sense to use the sum of the most well liked designs and common elements. We also have been on a trend towards simplification since, well... Baroque? Art noveau, art deco, mid century modern... Every step has been a simplification. Personally, I'm not a designer, but have a history with studying a very niche vintage market that emphasizes design. I'm also a woodworker who prefers to design his own stuff from my own sketches rather than a "get 'er done" or "follow the trends" approach. Typically I say look to the past for inspiration. Art noveau is kind of on my radar recently (and may start trending soon, if my feeling is correct), so lately I've been wanting to pull aspects of it back into my designs. Look at what's current, what,s missing, and REVOLT AGAINST IT!!! But still.... Make good design. :)
@sshlokmishra2967
@sshlokmishra2967 2 жыл бұрын
as usual, awesome content. Thank you
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jros2721
@jros2721 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content man! keep it up
@filiproch3653
@filiproch3653 2 жыл бұрын
while watching this video i thought that this is some big channel having at least 5M subs and i still don’t believe that u have only 20k. can’t wait to see ur next vid
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Filip! I appreciate that.
@ohokcool
@ohokcool 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely has deep implications in our culture, you should be aware of this influence of internet and algorithm on the world around us, even if you aren't a designer.
@raffiminasian7160
@raffiminasian7160 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - covers a lot of information in a short time. Much of the music and art world are impacted in the same context. The challenge with any pervasive media is moderating the subversive impact on our behaviors. Some of it is very hard to control or eliminate. Connection (real or digital) is an important part of relationship building. We are doing all this because we believe it builds relationships, but the comfort of relational homogeny is the end of innovation. Connection builds comfort - disconnection feels...well...alone. The best designers now (and always) are right on the edge of breaking the comforts of conformity, even when they bravely do it alone. It's getting harder to do it in a corporate setting so do it while you are a student, on self-directed projects, and do your best to test your studio and boss with those challenges. Some of my best work was not immediately the most liked. Often times, that's how I know I've done something worth doing - when it felt oddly out of place in the world but rightly in place with what I felt needed to be done.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting points. I think that designers rely on more conservative designs, especially client work, because they want to lean on what they know will work. I think it simply boils down to courage. It takes courage to do something new and risky, and face the prospect of pushback and resistance from the client.
@raffiminasian7160
@raffiminasian7160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory completely agree. That's why it's so important for designers to always work on personal or passion-driven projects where we can push the limits of our imagination and break out of the constructs of work-based performance and peer acceptance.
@sohailrahman735
@sohailrahman735 2 жыл бұрын
that's why my master taught me don't look for inspiration from social media like pinterest, insta, behance, dribble etc. what you are seeing is other people's solution of their problems in design. try to figure out what's your or clients problem & solve that with your very own designs, & if you can't get it then look for inspiration from nature, arts & music etc. randomize your thoughts in design.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@gluedmango
@gluedmango 2 жыл бұрын
Rama Works is the perfect example of gutsy business model that revolves around industrial design in a very, very niche market, that is premium mech keyboard (although this may change in the future, who knows). The team deserves all the attention (and orders!) they get right now.
@Altair00rion
@Altair00rion 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very interetesting video. Thank you!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@benwhite8157
@benwhite8157 2 жыл бұрын
This seems to be the defining trait of adapters and cables on Amazon. -silver 'metal' case -black plastic edging and inlays -'gold' contacts for cable ends
@flyingaviator8158
@flyingaviator8158 6 ай бұрын
We need a video showcasing products who dont follow the trend!
@anubhavsircar4202
@anubhavsircar4202 2 жыл бұрын
Man you put the reality out in this video. Whatever you said is 100% true… quality of renders in my Instagram vs my design proposal are exactly opposite. I never put the same effort for my proposals as I do for my Instagram😅.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
So true haha 😂
@nikhilsrinivasan2533
@nikhilsrinivasan2533 2 жыл бұрын
I mean what an inspirational and beautiful video. Hats off
@ayaangodil645
@ayaangodil645 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be seen by more people!
@bassam3001
@bassam3001 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, Great video Keep going ❤️❤️
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement. I will continue to make videos for all of you!
@SeanRosairo
@SeanRosairo 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of the Toyota Camry (which this model is trying something different), I'd say the design of all compact crossovers look the same to each other, Ford Escape, Chevy Equinox, Hyundai Tucson, Nissan Rogue, Mercedes GLC, Tesla Model Y they all look the same now
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