Why Allo Changes Everything... (The Isle Discussion)

The Isle's new Allosaurus reveal changes things

[@goldfishmentality]

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[@AntOAnt-ez8gp]

allo will bring in all the people that are like me, those who are only here for allo

[@Dimitriterrorman]

fr

[@carrott36]

You could say… all-o the people like you Badum tss

[@CutBoi93]

Bigg Al will be what I need just ain't me without bigg aL that's my Boi yaherd 💯

[@nikolailic3443]

i just hope they keep the 1 call as in legacy as well,my favorit dino

[@ash_art6648]

me fr fr

[@MACKOS_lol]

i curled my toes and giggled when it was revealed its allo

[@Dacentrurus]

💀💀

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

In the devblog they said they'd try to make it a jack of all trades again, I'd take that as Allo being able to use it's "ambush speed" to ambush and catch faster prey while also having the option to chase after slower prey and conserve it's stamina, so you'd pick how you hunt depending on your target. I'd make Allo's regular running speed just slow enough for Cera and Teno to outrun it but Also faster than Diablo, so I'd imagine it to be like 38-38.5kmph and it's short burst of speed fast enough to catch a Galli or a Carno in short distance before it either quickly runs out of stamina or the speed boost is gone, so if you are smaller you just get out of there when you see one and it can't do much about it if you keep running.

[@Dynosaurus_rex]

On top of all that it will also be a large game bleeder.. taking down large prey in groups using its bleed to whittle them down

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

@@Dynosaurus_rex Exactly, it can change it's hunting style depending on the size of it's prey, when it's hunting bigger stuff, instead of using it's ambush speed that uses a lot of stamina it can just run at it's regular speed to conserve it's stamina.

[@Dynosaurus_rex]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgun that’s why I love allo. It’s good for both group or solo players and can handle itself in multiple situations. It’s gonna be very interesting when it’s added and I’m so excited

[@JELONGreatMrRed]

FOR CERA TO OUT RUN IT? ARE YOU INSANE? Allo was literally faster than cera in legacy and still was a fair fight, wtf?! The speed boost will feel more like Path of Titans ability, there is no way for it to be that slow. If anything, it should just be as fast as teno or slightly faster.

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

@@JELONGreatMrRed Allo was actually a little bit slower than Cera in legacy, Allo's ambush speed was faster than Cera's ambush speed but Cera's sprint was faster than Allo's. Also Allo being faster than Teno ? How is Teno supposed to survive against an Allo that is at least a ton heavier than it ? Also unless they reduce Allo's weight it weighs more than twice as much as the Evrima Cera, a 40kmph+ Allo would just be op specially if it also gets a legacy like ambush speed.

[@vezelrijk_zwaluw1606]

Can’t wait for my grandchild to see it

[@fire_quacker5199]

Allo coming with Asutro and Bary sounds kinda crazy. It’s prob gonna go like allo&maia, rex&trike and Bary&austro

[@goldfishmentality]

Agreed

[@sam-l5s]

nah maia isnt even ready allo looks ready it has a model,attack animations and its roar plus grapple is here so

[@majorcheirus77]

The animations look so panther like and I’m all for it

[@halfslyced]

Bro i did not see that 5k goal coming 💀💀💀💀 ur absolutely nuts (good luck bro)

[@KaijuEmu]

Allo sounds good. But I think the video of you sitting in the woods wearing a dinosaur costume shall be better

[@goldfishmentality]

Agreed

[@timsheriespalding4484]

I subbed cus of that exact reason

[@ethanagar4922]

Allo my boi, we've missed you. OOOOO idea for a vid; return to Legacy and grow an Allo, closer to Evrima's release of it, and get a good farewell to it's old self

[@GoBile0]

I’m glad that legacy won’t just disappear completely. At least not yet. I enjoy(ed) it a lot.

[@julianodobler2782]

Wait, rly? When will legacy be gone?

[@ethanagar4922]

@@julianodobler2782 That is yet to be determined, but hopefully not for a while

[@GoBile0]

Yep, not determined yet. So, no estimated time

[@Dynosaurus_rex]

@@julianodobler2782the devs said once evrimas gameplay loop is complete they will switch evrima to the main branch. So once elders and mutations are complete and released the loop is complete. So probably some time after that

[@user-yc1ni4nm3n]

Allosaurus has always remained my favourite dinosaur, I'm really excited to play as this thing when I get the game and it comes out. It will be an anticipated badass mid tier and make itself a really fun playable.

[@gracefuldove8414]

Para should be able to roll over on allo grappling it so should ever thing

[@Adriandp18]

I agree but it should have some sort of indication and if the allo lets go before it rolls the para is vulnerable but if it’s successful it should leave the allo on dark orange or red

[@SilverSabertooth]

@@Adriandp18 red?? this thing isn't supposed to be a glass canon you know. I'd think _one_ attack would leave it on half health at most.

[@realdaggerman105]

@@SilverSabertooth Parasaurolophus weighs a ton more than allo. It doesn’t matter if Allo isn’t a ‘glass cannon’, if a very large and dangerous animal like a Parasaurolophus FALLS onto it, it should hurt a LOT. Plus, Allo players are naturally going to group up, so if Para can’t effectively deal with even one, what is it gonna do?

[@pilot_bruh576]

​@@SilverSabertoothidk bruh i feel lik like being run over by a truck as a gorilla wouldnt really feel well

[@SoundSketchy]

para is so underrated and underdeveloped - para should compete with gigas and rexes in terms of weight and just sheer power- just to pt in peerspective- imagine a giant horse. the kicks would be enough to break bones- let alone fend off a single allosaurus- they treat it like a giant dairy cow, a walking meat stick when it could be so so much more,

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

1:28 i think it was confirmed really little time ago that any dino was going to be able to iirc

[@timotheetzimakas8339]

My favorite dino. Playable alone , deadly in pack not to big not too small quite fast and good stamina. I didn't play the isle for 4 years but for allo i can be back!

[@GEK0dev]

Dude, Just think, Within the next century we may actually get the semi apex tier since we are getting mid tiers this next decade!

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

and we only have to wait 1 year or more to play it!!!...

[@scottthesmartape9151]

ITS 🥁🥁🥁 GRIPPY 😫🔥🗣️ GRIPPY

[@goldfishmentality]

GRIPTASTIC 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@scottthesmartape9151]

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[@AlloArtz]

Its literally the Jurassic Lion! RAHHHHHHHH 🗣🗣❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[@bereketkibrom9716]

Allosaurus has always been my favourite dinosaur and im just more than huped forbit in evrima. Its good stepping stone for the isle before rex and trike im excited for its mechanics and what it would do for the future. Ngl, i do think it should be faster than cerato but not as agile. But its ambush speed will so quick it can catch a galli or carno if caught off guard. And tbh i do think that it should be equal to Alberto instead of weaker because they both have similar weight, length, and height, and they have oppisite advantages. Allosaurus has speed, and alberto has power. It would be entertaining to see. Anyways, cool video man.

[@JELONGreatMrRed]

If Allo is gonna be a very strong, very good bleeding but only fast to catch a carno or galli with the speed boost (ambush) im totally okay with it, like if allo fails to ambush you, he has not alot of chance to do the speed boost again as either it will have some sort of cooldown like carno charge or will reduce the turn radius and you can run away from it. I just cant wait to play it and honestly it will fix most of the isle's issues, like the grapple being so f*cking op for the omnis and the stego and diablo overpopulation, maybe even fighting some carnos.

[@Nascar...]

we gotta get you to 5k

[@goldfishmentality]

Heck ya

[@Schmeeda-wt9wm]

I don't care what people say, to me Allo has always been the "wolf," and having it back is singlehandedly going to be the only reason I come back after my years long hiatus.

[@holliegould3463]

i'm on a hiatus from this game until dibble is at least released to the live branch, maybe i'll even wait until allo is added hehe 🤭

[@antonionunez5084]

You should make a video on mechanic concepts. Like gameplay features that would make the game less like a “sit in a bush for four hours game”.

[@busfahrerachim5572]

bro I can already see the confused hikers

[@2sabat]

really excited for 2034 when we finally get to play it

[@Aliens218]

ALLOSAURUS WOOOOOOOO

[@realdaggerman105]

Carno does count as a mid tier, though. That’s his whole thing. He’s a mid tier designed to punch down, kind of like how omni is a small tier who punches up.

[@CurseOfVanishingI]

it just scares me that one allo will be able to grapple what 2 omnis can maybe 3 if dondi really wants he can make allos be omni with better grapple.

[@temujinchannel8584]

The coolest dino in the game, no doubt! But the main issue right now is we got more and more hackers running around. I've seen at least one on every session i play the game, wheter it is speedhack on stego, wallhack on pachy, etc. And kinda tired reporting them because you will ended up getting ban for "misinformation"...

[@LeopardKoma]

allloooo

[@thestondfrog]

Yay new vid

[@Magy-zm6mx]

How is he gonna poop in the dinosaur costume 💀

[@Dotishim]

long live THE ALLOSAURUS 👑

[@sealfourtyfour]

finished thoughts are as follows: allo good

[@aethr4291]

hey Goldfish, your video reacting to the Day of Dragons trailer popped up on my feed and it got me thinking, do you think you will cover the game Dragontwin in the future, hopefully if it picks up more of a following & gets good backing?

[@goldfishmentality]

I bet I'll cover it eventually. Just not much to go off of yet

[@aethr4291]

@@goldfishmentality Can't come soon enough! Keep up the great content

[@YaRinGEEE]

Doesn't bleed drain stamina now instead of health or has that been changed?

[@Verdinhox2]

it's a separate bar that gets drained and if it runs out you die

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

iirc bleed is it's own thing but it effects your regen speeds instead of draining your hp or stam. So you heal slower and regen stamina slower if you lose blood.

[@AKayani559]

Can you talk about pot adding free roaming and hostile ai like is it bad or good and your opinion on it

[@travelerofthesea5143]

Longer videos.....pls

[@sam-l5s]

will allo be released along side diablo as a secret gift? or after diablo? any guesses? like it has its roar, it has attack animations and it was teased if it wasnt ready why did they tease it. so my guess it might release along side diablo as a secret gift or in the next update.

[@goldfishmentality]

@@sam-l5s probably a bit after. Maybe a month or two

[@sam-l5s]

@@goldfishmentality gosh hope not that long

[@user-ly4pf4hj4b]

Is stego a pesudo apex or a mide tier btw if i could play the isle evrima and allo gets released . Id would play as stego cuz i will be safe from a single allo but a pack will make me fear and i think it would be fun cuz allos could time their attacks and use their bleed to take me down but they gonna have to get close so i could get a hit into the allo and they may have to stop but i doubt they would

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Stego's psuedo apex. It's heavier than sucho and irl acro

[@Parso_YT]

What we need is a better way to track or find players, I never find anyone ever on full servers, following migration zones and all

[@UrubuDoPix09]

Filipe said that they are working on a tracking system, which will help find players

[@tt.60fps59]

Fr u can never find anyone in the jungle unless u get lucky and randomly walk into there path, i miss the old tracking where u could see there footsteps highlighted from a distance, Instead of having to go exactly where they last went to be able to press Q its so rare which is why ppl go use south plains / these types of hotspots cause its the only way u can actually get food without dying, Literally impossible to find someone via tracking unless u get lucky

[@tt.60fps59]

@@UrubuDoPix09 It better come out with Allo or else your gonna have a shit show in south plains

[@Parso_YT]

@@tt.60fps59 well allo being an ambush predator relies on actually finding people so I sure hope so

[@tt.60fps59]

@@Parso_YT after update 4.5 tracking has been unreliable and just awful so I hope the programmers/UI artists cook up a new tracking system when allo comes out

[@gingemaximus5301]

Just give me my Giga Chad Minmi

[@goldfishmentality]

@@gingemaximus5301 real

[@JustJempas]

Will it fix the bugs? Lag? Oversized map? Bad player base?

[@darkwhipthelasher9178]

Hey Goldfish I don't wanna sound presumptuous but I don't remember anyone saying allosaurus being confirmed as the Secret Dino. I agree easter eggs were shown but without a clear confirmation I just don't want to assume. Unless you have a proper source for confirmation ?

[@goldfishmentality]

I mean it was quite literally found in a secret file that wasn't supposed to be shown to the public yet.

[@Joj727]

I didn’t hear a shout out from the video

[@patryks9048]

I must say only from reading a title. It wont change lot. Just adding 1 playable is just 1 playable and it wont change a major gameplay

[@TheVikingCarnotaur]

My best bet is that allo is gonna be overpowered

[@Vadim_k.d.]

byeah

[@TheKingMinmi]

I know I joke around about how “ It’s not all it’s minmi” but if you really Think about it, Minmi should be at you pretty close since we already have diving and burrowing should be coming some what soon (depending if the devs don’t do anything dumb xD) so hopefully Minmi could come in the next dna Dino listening (I’m expecting maybe 2030)

[@goldfishmentality]

MINMI ON TOP

[@1tinydinosaur510]

We are less than 3 weeks from the 1-year anniversary of the last roadmap, maybe we'll get the new one soon! Would love to see Minmi on there

[@sealfourtyfour]

also you said allo brutally fisted cerato in legacy which just isnt true unless you got the jump on it because it can escape an allo if allo has no ambush same with utahs

[@rylandfrederick431]

Anyone know how much allo will weigh?? If it's a mid tier then carno also has to be a mid tier since carnos actually larger than irl allosaurus, which averaged 1.7 tons, if the isle goes ahead with their oversizing of dinos then I wouldn't be surprised if they made a saurophaganax sized allosaurus, personally I don't think it should go much over 2.3 tons 2.5 kg max that would make it heavier than it's competition, also diablo is way to heavy it's actual size estimates are 1.3-1.4 tons but in game it's 3 tons(?), or about the same size as styracosaurus.

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

I honestly hope Allo stays over 2.5 tons because the game REALLY needs a carnivore in that size range. Also Cera is 1.3 tons and Allo is clearly much bigger than that. Allo isn't supposed to compete with Cera and Carno it's supposed to be on the same level as an Alberto

[@rylandfrederick431]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgun ceratos 1.3??? It's not even 1 ton irl, imo allosaurus should probably be at 2.5 tons, albertosaurus at 3 and carno is good at 2.1, and baryonyx should be similar to allo if they are changing the sizes of all dinosaurs, probably 2.5 tons as well if not larger. That means we get 2 decent mid tiers one being an aquatic, a fast mid tier, and one that's stronger than the others but doesn't have the best stamina (realistically Alberto should just decimate everything that isn't at least 2 tons heavier than it)

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgun it will be 2.8T when it's first releases on the hordetest, then it might change thanks to feedback, but ti will be 2.8T at first

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

@@rylandfrederick431 In Evrima Cera is 1.3 tons. I'd expect Bary to be between Cera and Carno at 1.4-1.5 tons because it just looks about that size in the concept art and having it be Allo sized would overlap too much imo. Carno's size is good as it is, it has different problems, like it's charge being essentially useless because it's impossible to land it on a target that isn't afk.

[@rylandfrederick431]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgun well baryonyx Is bigger than allosaurus and carnotaurus on average, so making it smaller would be a huge let down, it should be allo level or between carno and allo in terms or weight, but it's speed on land and stamina will of course be much lower to make sure they stay by the water, from the concept art Baryonyx seems to be like a honey badger, it simply does not gaf, even against a deinosuchus it just slams its head to the ground. Ideally it should be 2.2-2.4 tons, making allo slightly stronger on land (though allo might not be as much of a heavy hitter) but baryonyx could still compete with allo and carnotaurus and not have the mobility to catch ceratos outside of water.

[@hud4957]

These hackers change everything tbh

[@The_Slim_Shiesty]

Hot take they should add sarco

[@stefanstenbakkerichsen3123]

Allo will be a game changer, for me atleast. The only fun dino to play.

[@FrejthKing]

imagine thinking Cerato is strong.

[@thevioletboi]

the only concern i always had with the isle is the little presence of vegetarians/omnivores compared to carnivores

[@TheVikingCarnotaur]

I miss when Maia was carnos enemy and not allosaurus’s…

[@tt.60fps59]

prime carno in evrima would prob take on maia atleast 2 carnos but now nah... better off forgetting it carno sucks now

[@TheVikingCarnotaur]

@@tt.60fps59 for eel

[@jacobcox4565]

0:30 But isn't Stegosaurus supposed the natural enemy of Allosaurus? Theyre enemies in real life. There's fossil evidence of Allosaurus and Stegosaurus fighting each other.

[@sealfourtyfour]

i am 1:10 in if any allo slander happens i will come for you

[@user-sv8sw1yx1g]

When allo? When trex?

[@TheVikingCarnotaur]

Evrima had stealth gameplay until they decided carno shouldn’t be doing that

[@shadowcell1184]

Evrima is trying to be as realistic as possible, so I doubt Cerra would be able to put up any fight against an Allo that is double it's size.

[@Jeff_Reyx]

Only pack

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

My ass evrima is trying to be realistic, LMAO Carnotaurus would actually fucking eviscerate its entire head and neck charging like it does in-game

[@shadowcell1184]

@@IndominusRex-wc1ey Animals do that to this day and are fine. However charging larger objects I agree should damage the Carno I'm sure the Deev will add something like this eventually.

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

@@shadowcell1184 clearly, yes, *look at the charging animals* Buffalo, Bison, even farm Cattle, Goats, Bighorn Sheep, Rhinoceros, Musk Oxen, Pachyrhinosaurus, even Achelousaurus ALL have an *EXTREMELY* specialized body to ram, let alone ram things even REMOTELY comparable in size to itself. The Isle's Carnotaurus? No neck reinforcement, extremely small and ineffectively placed weapons for charging, and ZERO adaptations for impact protection. Hell, *it charges with its FUCKING N O S E* That is not something that happens in the real world, nor will it EVER be

[@emmyturner7385]

Why doesnt carno count?

[@Random_110]

It weights 1.8 tons, a mid tier should weight at minimum 2.2 tons

[@klopson9703]

I know im negative nancy, but i must be the only person who isnt excited for Allo at all. Maybe, cuz i have 0 good memories tied with Allo or Allo players from Legacy. However if for some of you Allo is what Sucho and Barry are to me, then i guess im happy for you all.

[@dtbrex08]

BUT DOES CERATOSAURUS COUNT IF CARNO DOESN'T? 🤨 jk cerato is even smaller than carno but come on both of them even FEEL big in the game so....... imo they're enough to call them a mid tier lol.

[@Goatzillareal]

I think dibble will be able to fight an allo too since they have the same/similar weight

[@petalwhispers]

that comment about Carno not being a mid-tier holds no weight it literally is a mid-tier dino lol

[@goldfishmentality]

@petalwhispers you're no fun

[@petalwhispers]

@@goldfishmentality i apologize I wrote that comment while incredibly tired, I do see how it was a joke now

[@pokemon05100]

You mentioned that carno doesn't count without mentioning the 3 ton diablo. Diablo is the first mid-tier.

[@TallTaleGael]

we need bigger servers 100 players is too few

[@gagechatham7838]

nah they gonna drop allo by thew end of the Horde test... Dibble is Allos Equal

[@jermomu]

how about you stay in a forest with other people dressed in dinosaur costumes. at night. and they all have chainsaws

[@TheHuffur]

I cant wait for Allo to be added in another 6 months or something and then when I spawn in and walk around for a while FATAL ERROR pops up like the good old buddy it has become and crashes my game! Its going to be great and no one will care that the game is still crashing every 10-20 minutes because wow! new dino!

[@Jay-Ce]

"The first mid tier in the evrima roster" *looks at Diablo*

[@goldfishmentality]

Diablo is a tiny boi that weighs 3 tons for god knows why

[@Adaptibility]

@@goldfishmentality Looks at stego

[@Jay-Ce]

@@goldfishmentality Well from all the changes they have made with Diablo, he still remains to be a mid tier as it currently stands. Even a 2 Ton dibble would be considered mid tier, it vastly overshadows things like Carno/Teno in terms of strength and power. The same can be said for Allo. But, I do agree with your sentiment that we need these bigger animals before adding things like Rex and Trike, especially in Rex's case because I don't see him getting enough food from our current roster(unless Stego stands a 0% fighting chance and just gets rolled)

[@goldfishmentality]

@@Adaptibility stego is a large tier

[@Jay-Ce]

@@Adaptibility "Isn't Much bigger"? Stego is like more than double of Allo's weight

[@Eren-cm5pc]

Diablo was the first mid tier lol.

[@Utahraptor777]

I like how half the video is you talking about allos grapple and how it could be so much better than omnitahs. I personally think the grapple is needed on omnitah to actually make solos a half decent threat. (Just nerf it a bit.)

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

Imo solo Omnis shouldn't be a threat to larger animals, they should only be a threat when they have enough numbers to compensate for their size. Solo omnis takin down 2-3 ton animals shouldn't be a thing because when that's the case there is no point in having larger animals take longer to grow, why spend the extra time growing a bigger dino if you are not going to get an advantage ? On top of that why would a solo Omni need to hunt bigger prey anyway, something it's own size should be more than enough to fill it's stomach and get diets.

[@Utahraptor777]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgunI was saying that solo omnitahs should be at least a threat to stuff like pachy and dilo, but dilo should be the absolute largest creature a solo can take down without huge skills. The grapple should allow you a fighting chance against these creatures. Solo omnitahs should not pose a threat to something like carno.

[@ALunaticWithAShotgun]

@@Utahraptor777 Oh yea I %100 agree with that. Though even solo Omni is horrifyingly overpowered right now, specially with some of the mutations. Like yesterday I was playing fully grown Carno and a fresh adult Omni absolutely melted my hp so quickly that I just gave up and sat down (my bleed was still at like %40 but my hp was at red), though he spared me so I am thankful for that.

[@Utahraptor777]

@@ALunaticWithAShotgun which mutations are best for omnitah

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

thing is solo utah shouldnt be a threat to anything l bigger than pachy

[@karenboy1005]

Allo won't be the first mid tier, Diablo is already in.

[@karenboy1005]

Also, it doesn't need to release alongside Maia to be "balanced out," Diablo is already in.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@karenboy1005 and it isn't like maia had any chances of beating allo anyways

[@karenboy1005]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 yeah no they definitely ain't making Maia that strong.

[@dannydelgado7056]

The isle cant handle an allo rn, the game runs like garbage and way too buggy, so they need to fix that first then release new dinos

[@kickazz3638]

Tbh I want a land threat to Deino

[@Hunting-Raptor]

byeah