Why American Football Lost

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00:00 How the NFL Failed in Europe
01:00 The Origins of European “Football”
03:48 The Real Thing & Ze Germans
05:35 Lessons to Learn
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#football #nfl #superbowl

[@tumeric6227]

American Football will definitely become more popular than baseball, maybe even basketball but it will never overtake football

[@Vyker]

Americans are the masters of brainwashing(marketing). If they grab the young next generation then it will overtake football eventually. Europe needs to do more to win the minds of the young.

[@Rayzajw]

It probably won't pass basketball only cause like Football(soccer) it can be played anywhere with anyone. Football is no.1 basketball is no.2

[@afbismedia2221]

Football 🏈 love the sport and I love Football ⚽ also! But I'm in love with American Football 🏈 Alot

[@chrispanca1590]

Basketball, like Football, is a game which can be played anywhere, anytime, by anyone. American football doesn't really have that.

[@wussrestbrook1200]

@@MrJoeSomebody u can still dribble with just the ball how can you play football by urself ?

[@ElBayadKhalil]

For me the biggest problem about watching NFL is the commericals.

[@QuantumNoir]

👏🏼🙌🏼 I'm American and I refuse for that reason. I'm used to soccer and boxing where there's no commercials or just a 15 minute segment.

[@boost3188]

Yes, there is a channel called RedZone that instead of going to commercials they skip around between the live games to show the important plays. It’s pretty much the only thing I watch.

[@williamlembke7828]

Hear me out. I dislike it as well so I just go use the restroom, get snack, check my phone I was ignoring, clean, play guitar. You name it. If it's a live stream I can pause I'll pause it, go do something, come back & fast forward through commercials when I get to them.

[@ElBayadKhalil]

@@williamlembke7828 When the possessions are short and the game is back and forth, it's just unbearable. I think commercials are one of the reasons NFL will never have an internationnal appeal.

[@williamlembke7828]

@@ElBayadKhalil You make good points. However I believe that it'll gain popularity in Germany, Britain, & Mexico. I know there was 5 pubs in England & Ireland together that were playing the Vikings (name of my favorite NFL team) which means it's popular enough for some to watch. The commercials are horrible. I don't think any other countries are going to take interest & the counties I listed will have fans but not as many as sports that already exist there.

[@SpiritmanProductions]

Culturally in England, football goes way, way deeper than American Football ever could. Nothing about the sport itself, or the cheerleaders, or the commercials every 6 minutes, can ever compete with the tribal rivalry of football. It's not just a spectacle, it's a way of life.

[@ernestocaro9802]

Perfectly said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@SpiritmanProductions]

@@ernestocaro9802 Thank you. I know the same applies in many other countries, too.

[@kevinmenendez361]

Brazil has entered the chat…

[@BulletRain100]

The biggest issue England has is most likely wealth. Until you're willing for each town to spend tens of thousands or upwards to millions of pounds to have the boys of your town beat the boys of the town next over for purely prestige, you don't have a good environment for American football. American football requires an insane degree of tribalism, sports fanaticism, and disposable wealth for it to work in the United States, and most other countries don't have the right mix. Clubs have an actual business model that makes sense. School sports in America are based on donations from wealthy locals and alumni.

[@SpiritmanProductions]

@@kevinmenendez361 Yes, I already added a comment regarding other countries. ;-)

[@lajc7222]

Football is life in south America, africa, europe and Asia. NFL will never overthrow football

[@royemmer3703]

Good we don’t want yall ruining are sport, appreciate this statement now I can rest knowing other countries won’t get their hands on it because they don’t like it

[@Angelgamer-hl6jt]

​@@royemmer3703El fútbol americano es malísimo el campeón de la NFL es el campeón del mundo en cambio en el fútbol para ser campeón del mundo es mil veces más difícil

[@Countryballs24992]

@@royemmer3703who would want to play it? You guys tried to ruin our game in the 90s with dumb ideas.

[@royemmer3703]

@@Countryballs24992 good keep thinking that way👍🏻

[@huntermahan1717]

​@royemmer3703 way to make Americans seem even more ignorant

[@nspill327]

I think a part of the issue is that two sports are called Football. The name affects how it’s marketed.

[@MustacheDLuffy]

Your could advertise as the NFL. I don’t know if American football or gridiron football would ring well in abroad countries

[@Mdksupreme1]

Call it what it is, handegg, besides no one watches it not cus of its name, but cus there's no skill involved in the game, it's just fat dudes slamming into each other repeatedly, no one watches it cus it's lame

[@sodapop83]

i find unabashedly rude from the americans to call theirs 'football'

[@chidumebiarukwe6436]

@@MustacheDLuffy gridiron or gridder would be better

[@danielalmeida7382]

@@sodapop83 not more rude than the Irish calling it “Gaelic Football”

[@Spacenugget9]

NFL’s biggest issue for overseas viewers is that it is a quintessentially American sport, with all the trappings (myriad ads, stoppages etc) that come with it. These are antithetical to the mindset of most of the rest of the worlds when it comes to entertainment and sporting culture.

[@universesays1842]

american football/grindion it's a boring version of rugby,they play 5-10 seconds and then stop 30-60 seconds so it's mostly wasting time

[@Soltain6]

Ben oui on ne base pas tout sur les rendements, mais la passion, ils ont encore beaucoup à apprend

[@smashyboi6887]

@@universesays1842Honestly I love watching American football even with the stoppage, every play feels important

[@wetguavass]

a quintessentially GRINGO sport ...the real Americans are the brown people of Mexico, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc. .... real Americans don't like tackle ball

[@vayres7512]

Absolutely right. In soccer matches if the television stop the game dozens of times the people won´t see that. American football is made for the corporations make their money.

[@Sal.K--BC]

As a Canadian, I prefer Rugby over American Football. I would love to see a big rugby league in North America.

[@prysrek8858]

Americans are scared of scratches, That's why they need all that gear

[@willdanger6833]

@@prysrek8858 There are far more injuries in football than rugby. But nice try

[@prysrek8858]

@@willdanger6833 "nice try", lol what? Injury rates for the shoulder, wrist/hand, and lower leg and for sprains, fractures, and contusions in rugby are >4 times as high as those in football. Please don't ever try to correct somebody in your life ever again.

[@willdanger6833]

@@prysrek8858 This has been studied before. Football is more dangerous. Rugby players suffer more cuts and bruises but football players get concussions, broken bones, torn ligaments and heat-related injuries.

[@prysrek8858]

@@willdanger6833 first you disagree with me and say there are more injuries in football and the next day you say Rugby has more injuries?

[@Oli-Johnson]

A child can watch a football game, get inspired and go outside on their own and practice skills or shots. Even in the poorest places of the world where they might not be able to buy a football, they can make one out of something. You can play it with one friend or 30. Any two items are enough to mark out a goal. No other sport is as accessible as football.

[@MaguireGOAT4Ever]

I'm from Germany and I've never met anyone that likes American football... We all love Football/soccer

[@anxietyattaxk]

That’s 🧢 and you know it… just look at the München game

[@sirwadsontoast5928]

That's fine. We can just look at the munchen game as proof that there's NFL fans in Germany and the fact that they had 3 million ticket request. 🤷🏾‍♂️. I personally know a NFL fan living in Germany.

[@vitormascarenhas4884]

Most people there probably didn't even know the game rules

[@Clistes]

@@anxietyattaxk How many of them where Americans ( Rammstein is the biggest US Base in EU) I think in Germany and neighboring countries there are more then 70,000 Americans who would love to see the game.

[@Arejen03]

yep, im Polish and i also never met someone who watches american football

[@ogisrb101]

American football will never overtake football, football has become a part of culture in a lot of country it is also simple and doesn't require anything but the ball to play it, ultimately it's simplicity makes spectating so much more exciting especially when somebody scores since in football you can see only a couple of goals a game there is always anticipation for that legendary moment that feels like its changing history and creating miracles

[@bjorncopperside4572]

i agree that american football will never overtake football in Europe, but its not about becoming the most popular sport its about adding variety, look man the americans have baseball, basketball, american football, boxing and the ufc. All we have is football, it would be nice if we had american football or the nba here aswell. wouldnt you agree?

[@benitocamelo1488]

I agree that American football will never overtake ⚽, but the latter's popularity is plummeting in many places, also many teens nowadays are indifferent to it, despite having been a part of many cultures

[@purpleirklegrovestreet]

@@bjorncopperside4572 oh my gosh, there are europeans that exist that are actually interested in american sports. I feel like if european football fans were a little less quick to jump to the “football is bigger than handegg and always will be” argument, maybe more americans would give it a try. The overall backlash from europen football to american football fans is a huge turn off and is a huge reason why americans dont like european football. I feel like if we tried to share our sports and what we like about them and teach others about them, soccer would become more popular in the US and american football would become more popular overseas

[@purpleirklegrovestreet]

@@bjorncopperside4572 i love the energy from european football fans but it is very similar to american football. After a long week at work, we all come together to drink overpriced alcohol and hot dogs just like u guys, probably with less unhealthy food though. American football is definitely a sport i feel like europeans would like if they gave it a try. The game makes no sense if u don’t understand it, but when u do, its a great game to watch and the stadium feeling is unreal if u go watch in person. Basketball is even better, especially up close.

[@ivand5699]

The problem i see with american “football” is that you cant play by yourself alone. In real football or basketball you can dribble and do tricks by yourself to enjoy and improve the skills you can practice shots but how the f would you do that with the american thing. Are you gonna tackle the fridge?

[@vassilisxerikos3908]

The main issue of American football is that it clashes with association football for a similar niche. Both played outdoors in massive pitches with lots of players. Asking NFL to overtake Champions League in Europe is like asking for Cricket to overtake MLB in USA. Ain’t gonna happen.

[@epicow_1973]

People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few. Its fine if you dont like NFL, thats your opinion. Just like its my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

[@lurji]

@@epicow_1973bro is butthurt

[@epicow_1973]

@@lurji someones mad lol

[@sirkle3087]

@@epicow_1973 someones fat lol

[@mrtee3988]

@@epicow_1973 Be serious. A game that constantly pauses, only to do one throw and a catch a lot of the time is nowhere near what could be considered the best sport.

[@ouicertes9764]

There are major differences between europe and american sport culture - franchise VS clubs. Clubs are integral part of the city, they can not be moved. Some clubs are majority owned by the fans. The rich owner of the clubs don't involve themselves into the competition or speak to media. - Clubs develop players from a young age, there are specific cultures associated with clubs. The "draft" is absolutely an american thing, it sounds like the military, very weird. - Youngs don't play for their highschool but for a club or a youth academy, they are not "stars" amongst highschoolers, they get professional experience early and start with better players to earn their place. - Rivalries between clubs are very entranched, the fans absolutely love their local team even if they suck, it's the pride of where you come from/live. - Tier leagues and relegation. The best league only features the best teams, and if your team suck, you get relegated into a lesser league until you get better and climb up. Football tried to make a superleague, american style, where they are guaranteed a spot, and it didn't go well with the fans. There is pride involved, how can ou say your team is better if you don't prove it against lesser teams. Also, it happens that semipro teams can climb up into the best league and win, absolutely legendary storytelling. Also secondary league help develop young players, if they are good they get signed into better teams. - Tanking. Absolute shame for sports. Why is losing matches rewarded?

[@shadybrain3424]

@ouicertes9764 well first, the age old rivalry's and club mentality of association football exists in american football but all that stuff is mostly in college football which is the NFL's feeder system. College football in america started before the nfl existed so some of those rivalry's are very very old and are some of the craziest games you'll see in the sport. the reason at the pro level that losing is rewarded is for parity, the same reason why the salary cap exists. in the nfl there arent going to be any oil barons coming in to buy up all the good players and just win everything all the time. any team has the opportunity to rise and fall to the bottom.

[@wingedhussar1453]

Football is usa is for the rich and elite. That's why it's the biggest franchise.its a cash cow and they have done shady things before

[@hiroprotagonitis]

Counterpoint to the “clubs va franchises” argument are college teams, where there is still a local attachment

[@baki3867]

⁠@@shadybrain3424There is American football rivalry, but it’s just not comparable to World Football rivalry. When countries play against each other like Scotland vs England, China vs Japan, Japan vs South Korea, China vs South Korea, Germany vs Netherlands, Spain vs Portugal, Norway vs Sweden, Ghana vs Nigeria, Brazil vs Argentina, and more. These countries dislike each other either because of political reasons or they fought a war in the past, which explains the rivalry. It’s a country against another country which is the closest you can get to going to war against another country. American football doesn’t has national derbies of countries disliking each other, bc American football is just popular in the US. Club team rivalries can get pretty intense, bc one city is liberal and the other one is conservative which dislike each other.

[@martinmcmartinezface4243]

​@@baki3867agreed, but I wouldn't name Spain vs Portugal as high rivarly game. At least from the Spanish side, we don't see Portugal as our big rival national team. In fact I would say thay we don't really have a big rival that we get extremely excited to play against. Our rivalries are more at club level, with Real Madrid vs Barcelona (el clásico) being the top one by far.

[@siddey9782]

⚽ is too big to overcome my friend. Football ⚽ is just different here, The raw emotion we carry for 90+ minutes on the field can't be overcome with any other sports. Edit- Thanks for the support in Likes but let's not fight each other 🙏🏼

[@MustacheDLuffy]

I’m pretty sure it’s not about creating a more popular sport than soccer

[@siddey9782]

@@MustacheDLuffy Yes it does or why else would you endorse it if you don't want that game to be influenced or played there.

[@siddey9782]

@@MustacheDLuffy The reason Football is huge here cause all you need is a ⚽ that's it, even if you are by yourself you can dribble, juggle or can learn a new trick. You don't have to be supreme physically to play that sport like American 🏈. You need stamina tbh because that's 90 mins of up and down on the field can be very exhausting.

[@afbismedia2221]

​​@@siddey9782 That's a lie you don't need nothing but a 🏈 and learn how to pass it kick it and plus now you could play Flag Football 🏈 and plus Football 🏈 not even an Olympic sport 🔥

[@afbismedia2221]

​@@siddey9782 Not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to explain

[@diegoalbues2471]

I'm Brazilian and like (almost) all Brazilians, I love football, real football (my second favorite sport is volleyball). And I think there are reasons why football (which Americans call soccer) is the most popular sport on Earth, while American Football is popular only in the US. 1 - Anyone can practice soccer (tall, short, thin, strong, rich, poor, men, women), anytime and anywhere, and you don't need a lot of equipment to play, in many poor places in the world ( in which, I also did this a lot as a child), the children play soccer using their sandals or building blocks as a goalpost . While to play American Football, it will be necessary to obtain those "armors" that look like medieval ones, and the player has to be very strong, and preferably very tall (as well as other sports, such as volleyball and basketball). 2 - Low scoring and tied games: Americans dislike (Americans like very high scoring sports) and don't understand low scoring and tied football. Low scoring is one of the reasons football is so exciting, as each goal that occurs can drastically change the outcome of the match. Imagine a situation where the match is tied at 1-1. Certainly the fans of these teams are tense, because their team can score one more goal and win the match; suffer a goal and lose the game or there is still the third possibility of the match ending with a 1-1 draw. And this is the differential of football, while the other sports each team has only two possibilities of result (victory or defeat) in soccer there are three possibilities (victory, defeat and draw) 3 - In American football (read NFL) and other American sports leagues, there is no promotion/relegation system, and for the rest of the world, it's boring, you go decades and decades against the same opponents, and the franchises that are at the bottom of the table, they start losing on purpose to receive the best players from the Drafts, contrary to what happens in football leagues (and depending on the country this system also occurs in basketball, volleyball, handball and so on) around the world, where clubs fight fiercely to stay in the First Division, and every year, EVERY YEAR, there is an exchange of first division clubs with second division clubs. 4 - In the US, there are sports franchises. In the rest of the world (mainly in football) there are sports clubs. Which makes football fans feel very identified with a club in their city, unlike the American leagues where the franchise can simply flee the city, if that city is no longer profitable for the owner of the franchise. 5 - Football is an easy game to understand: 11 players for each team, and the objective is to make the ball enter the opponent's net (of course, this must be done with feet, because only the goalkeeper can use his hands on the matches). Sports such as American Football and Baseball are very complicated to understand if you are not American (although baseball has some popularity in Japan in some Latin American countries such as Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela, ironically countries that currently have a troubled relationship with the US). I've seen Americans wanting to compare NFL, with the UEFA Champions League, or even the FIFA World Cup (tournaments of the most popular sport on the planet). I believe that American megalomania makes us forget that the Champions League is not a tournament for just one country, but for an entire continent, while the World Cup is a tournament involving 32 national teams (now it will be 48) and more than 200 countries in the world, and billions of people in the world watch these tournaments (and other national and continental football championships, clubs and national teams like, Copa Libertadores, Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Euro Championship, Copa America, AFC Champions League, Europa League among thousands of other football competitions around the world), unlike the NFL / Super Bowl, which only has media appeal in the USA itself.

[@duskthunder9274]

Why do u have the Russian flag in your pfp

[@diegoalbues2471]

@@duskthunder9274 answer is simple! I love Russia and your people, culture, language, climate, music,sports, landscape, history, women's beauty, strength and grandeur of this country !

[@SeanDaNerd]

I agree for the most part but I want to add a couple things. For point 2, yes Americans dislike draws/ties. But draws exist in American Football. In my 26 years of life, I’ve only seen 2 draws in the NFL. Once it reaches the playoffs (which I liken to knockouts) then draws will not be allowed. Point 3: I definitely wish there was a relegation system, but to my knowledge no one wants to invest in a lower league. Separate competitors to the NFL exist, but I don’t think they’ve ever managed (or maybe even considered) making a deal to create a promotion/relegation system. I hate “tanking” with a passion though. Point 5: I just want to add that there are even specific nuanced rules that players or even referees might not know. I remember one time the head coach of my Chargers told the referee about a specific rule and got a call to go his way. And as for your final point, the only reason why the comparison to the UCL or WC is fair at all is because no countries outside of the US or Canada play gridiron football. So I’m terms of the skill level, yes it is a demonstration of the top players. However, terms of cultural magnitude and even in terms of importance to the players and fans, the NFL championship probably doesn’t even compare to the passions of the EPL and DEFINITELY doesn’t compare to the passion for Campeonato Brasileiro or Primera Division. The NFL passion might not even compare to college football passion. So yes, the NFL doesn’t deserve comparison to the UCL or WC. Hell I only got interested in world football in college and I already care about those two competitions more than the NFL.

[@boringblaziken8122]

The way the america sports drafts makes perfect sense, if the best team gets all the best players then they will always won so they will get even more good players. But if you have the losing teams get the better picks then all of a sudden the game becomes more balanced and each year you could have a new winner. Oppose to other sports where you get the same teams bring successful every single year

[@odioalasmujeres]

​@@diegoalbues2471 Yeah i know but what they're doing is bad and some people think it's a bit offensive I don't blame using that picture but Russia is one of troublesome countries

[@millerr8066]

The main issue is commercials. That’s literally it, even as an American, who is a pretty big NFL fan I can’t stand to sit on my couch and watch an entire broadcast. 15 fucking minutes of playing in an hour long game that takes three hours to finish? Yeah man I’ll catch the highlights on redzone, because what the fuck

[@amarevanhook7453]

This is why redzone

[@ow_oso]

I love American football and Futbol but I don’t see it ever getting that big outside of the US. Looking at it from a birds eye view it’s no surprise Futbol is as big as it is. You don’t need a rule book or have it explained to you that the goal of the game is to get the ball in the net using your feet. It’s accessible and easy to understand at face value. Combine it with the fact that damn near every major country in the world has its own league and you get why it’s the biggest sport of all time.

[@tyreseneal]

💪

[@OMIMreacts]

The reason why football (and to an extent basketball) is so popular is because it is so easy and self explanatory to play yourself. You can play it with just one friend and a ball, that's it. Kids love playing it and they don't need anyone explaining the rules. Barrier of entry is super low, and when youve played it yourself you're more likely to watch it as well

[@neblinasp]

it's like everything else in life, the less rules, less equipment, the more you feel comfortable and free, football is like that, simple, easy and you don't need to spend a lot of money to play, American football is the opposite of all this.

[@thfccoys5103]

And it’s also a far better sport than American football and way more emotional.

[@Slo-ryde]

You can even play basketball by yourself as long as you have a hoop!

[@dctrsnapl]

you dont need the hoop @@Slo-ryde

[@gotoastal]

American kids play gridiron on the playground with a ball & no gear. It’s usually played with at least 8 kids to be more interesting, but there was not much of an issue having 15 vs 15 playing touch rules. Just like soccer where you can make a goal a tree & a rock, informal end zones are just as easy to create in just about any field.

[@towersthetoad2161]

It failed because Rugby is already a thing internationally

[@corentinm5169]

I would not say "internationally" but more implemented around the world for sure

[@malvarezroson]

@@corentinm5169 Have you ever seen the Rugby World Cup? It is trully an international game.

[@dxfifa]

@@malvarezroson Only France, Argentina, Italy and Japan have good level team and following outside of British colonies and influenced countries. Rugby is very minimal in the Americas, Asia (with the aforementioned Argentina and Japan the exceptions, maybe Uruguay has an argument). Also outside the former british colonies in Africa it is minimal. Another place where barely any rugby is played is northern/central/southern/eastern europe from belgium to finland to greece in a triangle. Only Georgia and Romania play rugby at a high rate there. Spain, Portugal and Russia all have a decent team but rugby is a very minor sport. Some British colonies like India and the Caribbean Islands don't even play rugby. Oceania/Australasia and the British Isles are the only two regions in the world where rugby is popular. And Australia/England/Scotland/Ireland all have much more popular forms of football than rugby union. NZ and Wales are the only notable nations where Rugby Union is the #1 sport. The only other countries where it is are pacific islands (Fiji, Samoa, Tonga being the most notable). It's mostly a British colonial game with medium popularity even in most of the colonies

[@malvarezroson]

@@dxfifa good. I can see you ve done your Research. But it just prooves my point. Even though ir Is not as widespread as Football. It Is trully an international game. England Scotland Wales Ireland France Italy New Zeland Australia South África Argentina Japan Uruguay Georgia Romania Portugal Chile Samoa Fiji Tonga Im forggetng some NFL...... Just EEUU.

[@jaimel88]

​@@dxfifa the Rugby World Cup is the 3rd most watched global sporting event, after the FIFA World Cup and Summer Olympics. At least, this was true when I wrote a paper about it for school some years ago. The sport has only grown since then, while American Football is still..American. The Super Bowl isn't even on the same league as the FIFA World Cup, in terms of viewership.

[@darkmatter6714]

Grown men running around in motorcycle helmets, shoulder pads and ballet tights was never going to be taken seriously outside of the US. But in Germany - a country where David Hasslehoff is considered as a serious pop star - it has a chance.

[@felipeb.9321]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ayla8345]

Maybe it has a chance with the older generation of Germany, but definitely not Gen Z

[@voxdraconia4035]

A country where grown men stand around to hit a ball with a paddle akin to a posh version of Baseball might be more suited to adopt Former Colony Football though ...

[@meerahcledomestictv9908]

😂

[@wilsonzhang9639]

Football is best, Basketball is good, American football worst.

[@tyreseneal]

😂

[@khalidcabrero6204]

American football isn't really a poor man's sport. It becomes complex quite quickly, and (something often overlooked) once it gets organized, it gets lopsided and unfun. I come from central-southern Africa, and when I was a kid an American aid volunteer helped a group of us organize a simple touch football team. However, that American visitor also happened to have also played college football, so he organized us well. taught us to run routes, plays, etc. That made us pretty much unbeatable in any game we set up against anybody. Nobody had any idea what we were doing or how to counter it. And that just made games unfun for everybody. We were not big or skilled , just well-organized by our "coach". Even a team of US embassy marines, twice our size and experience, were whalloped easily. And this is where I think American football loses its ability to become a "street sport". No game I can think of is so dependent on tactics and organization - or so tremendously tilted by them. So the game loses a lot of its simplicity, spontaneity and just the plain element of "fun". I love the game. But I can also see why it is not particularly appealing to those unfamiliar with it. Too much depends on tactics that are hard to understand, and it is difficult to see where the actual skills actually lie or even notice when they are on display.

[@DoubleSsoccer]

It really depends on your preferance, some people like how complicated it is but this isn't the majority

[@hartiwanger9176]

Soccer is a poor man's sport. That's why it's so popular

[@thierryhenry674]

Football (soccer) tactics is very complex, it’s just that you don’t know about it.

[@justdoit3928]

@@hartiwanger9176 most of those American watch the game in their mom basement, highly doubt that NFL are rich man sport.

[@hartiwanger9176]

@@justdoit3928 So you need to be rich to watch it? Damm, you can't that glib.

[@khvichakuprashvili6719]

I think American football will also need to compete with rugby in Europe. Not in Germany but In England and France rugby is quite popular and it offers kinda same entertainment as the American football. One time thing, a chosen match or something along those lines might attract people but I strongly believe it can't compete with football and rugby on regular basis. Also, keep in mind that people are interested in national competitions too like FIFA world cup or UEFA Euro. Rugby also has a world cup.

[@kimgoalie]

Changes with the european league of football

[@edwin7788]

I always thought rugby and American Football basically the same sport with different name

[@bjorncopperside4572]

@@edwin7788 rugby they dont wear helmets and body armor so they dont hit as hard as american football, the rugby ball is bigger and you can only throw it to teamates behind you. I like watching both rugby and american football, personally i think the helmets and armor of american football look cool so i like it a bit more LOL

[@jasoncallow860]

The worst thing about american football is the continual stoppages, Rugby is a free flowing game and all the players have to be able to run, pass and tackle. I tried watching american football, but it's too boring and fragmented. Rugby is far more entertaining as a spectacle.

[@kimgoalie]

@@jasoncallow860 Football is way better than Rugby. it is so unique and exciting.

[@SKRlNIA]

Not to mention in Europe, the NFL is battling against Cricket, Rugby, or any other minor sport out there, even the game of Darts is becoming more popular in the UK.

[@tyreseneal]

😂 Give NFL 🏈 A chance it's not that bad! It's very entertaining!

[@261i7]

​@tyreseneal American football is so boring. There's nothing happening it's just ads 😂

[@AmbushRL.]

And Basketball in Eastern Europe

[@Turtlefast235]

The video mentions only 2, TWO countries in the whole of Europe where Throwball have had some sort of interest, based on hight atendance to a few NFL games (with a good portion of those in the terraces surely American expats), in fact, it only mentions London as the only British city where the sport has some kind of interest. It is obvious that the NFL would try to push down our throats the narrative that the sport is making huge inroads in their popularity in the continent, when the reality is that only has gathered some "cult" following in Germany. To put in perspective the popularity of the American sport globally, the 2023 Super Bowl averaged 113 million viewers, but only an estimated 15% of that audience was outside North America, that means only around 17 million viewers cared for that game worldwide! meanwhile the Qatar 2022 World Cup final had 1.5 BILLION global viewers.... I don't think that Throwball will ever be anything but a distraction to sports fans outside the USA.

[@judas_bdb8681]

I'm pretty sure a standard El Clásico gets more views than that or at least close

[@saii_01]

I think the correct way to compare the viewership would be to compare it with champions League finals or with other sports something like Wimbledon finals. World Cup happens once in 4 years so that's a bad analogy

[@danielribeiro9179]

​@@saii_01the champions league final has 4x more viewers that the superbowl. It averages 400 million viewers. Even a standard El classico nowadays (not even talking the Ronaldo Messi era) can average more viewers than the superbowl. You don't understand the size of football worldwide.

[@epicow_1973]

@@danielribeiro9179 actually not true. champions league final has about 250M viewers, whereass the superbowl has 360M

[@jeanlundi2141]

Yeah I don't even get this video.If anything football (MLS) is becoming way bigger in the US in the past 15 years.

[@jakestar121]

It’s kind of dumb how the two versions of football are treated as direct competitors when they’re completely different sports altogether. Many fans just watch both lol

[@Mixcoatl]

But most people can't afford to go to games for both, they can't afford to buy jerseys for both, and they only have so much free time, meaning they'll inevitably have to make a choice. "lol just watch both" isn't a solution.

[@michaelkaine9452]

@@Mixcoatl they would have a favorite and then watch another sport. I bet 90% of nfl fans in Germany support their football(soccer) club 1st then their nfl team. That’s what American sports fans usually do with their sports.

[@tobiogunsina8426]

@@Mixcoatl for people in America it’s significantly easier to watch both as premier league and European games are on from 6:00 to 12:30 in the morning as opposed to 1 past midnight for nfl Europe lovers

[@jakestar121]

@@Mixcoatl over in North America (both US and Canada) the majority of sports watchers or fans watch at least two sports or at least follow what’s going on by looking at the scores, news, betting and playing in fantasy leagues. For a lot of cities, it’s common to see support for 4 of the major sports teams representing said city (like a shared community even if for some fans they prefer one sport more than the other). In terms of scheduling conflicts it’s rare, as the NFL mostly plays during just Sunday and it’s after all the League matches are finished in the morning for us. There’s no conflicts at all for UCL matches as those games are on Tuesdays and Wednesdays usually. A lot of these fans in North America are also very much “working class” with busy lives and yet they are able to somehow find the time to watch teams like the Knicks, Giants and Yankees play; so I don’t really buy your argument about “most people don’t have the time and money to follow two sports”. If someone’s enough of a fan, they will find a way to make time and follow the sports they love

[@christianarigoni2124]

I guess the competitor of american football is Rugby in France , UK and Italy.

[@demolitionplayz6569]

As a non American I understand the game as “Big Men Run with a oval shaped ball to the end of the field” that’s it

[@pvtmcfinger3770]

Big guys don't run with the ball. Smaller guys do. Big guys block to protect their quarterback (the guy who throws the ball), while the "small guys" (in comparison to the big guys) need to catch it and be quick with it to get as far as they can.

[@getuliogabriel3522]

@@pvtmcfinger3770 so it is "Small Men run with a oval shaped ball to the end of the field"?

[@pvtmcfinger3770]

@@getuliogabriel3522 not really small guys, they're pretty tall, but they seem small in comparison to the linemen. However, football is a bit more complicated in comparison to soccer to be defined in one sentence. Guys kicking a round ball towards the goal can more or less sum up soccer, meanwhile football doesn't mean just running the ball, you can also throw it, catch it, kick it, or if you're playing defense, stop the runner, prevent a catch, intercept the ball or score defensive points.

[@Niimerium]

@@pvtmcfinger3770 lol no

[@dchegu]

Tho that describe rugby perfectly.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

It's a silly dream to imagine that US football will ever take off outside the states. It's seen as an American thing. Plus it's super commercial, which won't fly. Adverts every 5 minutes? I don't even like real football, but I know its biggest sport in the world, that's not going to be overtaken by anything else.

[@98bpd44]

Comments here summarise really well the differences between football and american football, but there's one thing that I haven't seen nobody mention: football has more dynamism and that helps the viewer to always expect something different. I'm far from being a expert in american football, but excluding spectacular counter-attack runs that often are in those greatest sports moments videos, it seems that there's always a build up to the touchdown. I mean, a team gets the ball, then progress some yards, then the game stops. Then they gain some yards again... and there is an AD. So you know that your team is going to attack or defend, it feels more like a "phase game". In football, sometimes teams are winning and losing the ball in the midfield a lot, but then someone finds a great pass and, in seconds, suddenly your team have a great opportunity to score. Yesterday I was watching my team play, we were losing 1-0 away and trying to attack, but failing to shoot on target (our attack is shit tbf 😅), but our midfielder suddenly dribbled wonderfully, entered the area and got himself a penalty kick - we've scored. That can also happen in american football, but the fact that the game has less stoppages helps a lot.

[@AETERNVS]

The NFL's overseas appeal is similar to WWE's, with one big difference: the WWE is a Circus, one that can travel all over the world with their shows and attract a great amount of die-hard fans (in India, for example). The NFL is a sports league, and while adopting the same method used by WWE, it has the complexity of the teams: it's the US Nation's Football Championship. And while expanding and creating events in Europe is the best idea, it's almost impossible for the NFL to take-over Europe. So.. they'll always be the great sport of the USA, and that's what ultimately sells, and will forever sell.

[@Mdksupreme1]

Nfl has nothing close to the appeal of wwe, no one watches the nfl cus there's no skill involved and there's constant stoppages, it's just fat dudes slamming into each other repeatedly, no one watches hand egg cus it's lame

[@imnotlazy]

@@Mdksupreme1 its true its confusing and boring. Now I know why they are so big on bring entertainment to the sport😅

[@cum537]

@@imnotlazy that's your opinion bruh

[@imnotlazy]

@@cum537 of course it's my opinion😂

[@bkak2245]

@@Mdksupreme1 horrible logic, its like someone saying "⚽️ is just guys chasing around a ball and putting it in a net"

[@chemical9999]

I still don't understand how Donald Trump contributed to this

[@jamavra]

i think he used it as more of clickbait :p

[@mihaigrigoras7956]

@@jamavra Bingo

[@darkestknightbrightestlich4690]

Naming rights

[@chemical9999]

@@darkestknightbrightestlich4690 he only blocked the name. So they went for different name. He didn't do anything to help them

[@liamo8932]

Donald Trump is America and America is Donald Trump. Simples

[@revertrevertz5438]

If the NFL wants to go abroad, the first step is opening a Franchise in Mexico. I know to some it may sound strange, but the NFL has a huge fan base there. I have no doubts it’s the second only to the US. Mexico City goes wild when rival universities play games. The Super Bowl is even shown at cinemas. So, just to test the ground, Mexico would be the best start. Add that that time zones and flights aren’t so bad, that can make the experience not so complicated as in Europe.

[@_Wombat]

It is interesting to watch Americans grapple with the realization that for once, their world view that the USA is always the biggest and the bestest, is not true. I actually think the more interesting question here is whether "soccer" can make a dent in America. With Messi now in the MLS, and the next World Cup in the US, I genuinely think proper football could start to make a name for itself in the USA. Imagine a US national team that could actually compete at a World Cup, that would be awesome.

[@sebastiansanchezn1650]

The problem is different. Europe has Rugby: Rugby is a fast paced sport, with contact, runs, tackles and decision making, while avoiding 10' ads break every 2" of play. American Football is just a bad version of Rugby and it's made to sell ads. No one that wants to sit 4 hours to watch ads will eventually get the time to watch a full game.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Excellent point

[@benhavasy4538]

american football>ruby because it's just more organized in my personal opinion.

[@Mz-st2fs]

@@benhavasy4538it’s not fun to watch they play for less than 10 sec and then you have to wait 60 sec for them to make another play. Boring af

[@ankansenapati3600]

​​@@Mz-st2fsnfl has the best athletes in the world 6'5 250lb jacked is the norm

[@benhavasy4538]

@@Mz-st2fs just get a longer attention span

[@hoORizoN60]

I think another major problem is the difference in how leagues are run in Europe and the United States. Indeed the NFL, the NBA and the other American leagues are companies whose one and only goal is to make money. In Europe this is not the case, especially in France (where I come from, for other countries I do not know the exact laws). In fact, they are dependent on associations that are not allowed to make profits. Of course the money is there, but the primary goal of the European leagues is not the same. So we can't compare the money coming in from the NFL and other European leagues. For example in Europe the worst teams each year go to a worse league (which is dangerous from a business point of view, hence the fact that some clubs wanted to create a football superleague, which the fans do not did not accept). Europe favors the sporting side, the USA the money. (And this is reflected in the way games are played. For example, I really like basketball, but I can't watch the NBA anymore, the games are too long and there are too many games in regular seasons which are uninteresting. During an nba game there is too much down time for advertisements and therefore to make money. It's too long for me I'm bored, I feel like I'm waiting all the time to see the game. Same when I tried to watch the NFL: there were too many advertisements. If an American league tries to establish itself just to make money, it will not succeed even if it remains my opinion.

[@imnotlazy]

Yeah I read somewhere that the NBA and I think the NFL also are classed as entertainment and not actually a sport. Hence why they spend so much on the business side of it and generating more money wherever possible. Hence why they're so much ads everywhere compared to like European sports.

[@EPK123]

Thats true, i tried to start watching nba the last year but all the publicity fed me up.

[@cianog]

I kind of disagree. Football in Europe is more capitalist than the U.S.

[@EquaYonah]

@im not lazy You're thinking of the WWE. NBA and the NFL are 100% sports lol

[@williamlembke7828]

I believe that many feel the same in America but are left with fewer options as the other leagues are so... Uneventful. A lot of sports that aren't American seem to me like they have a slow progress & smaller gains with lower possibilities for something crazy to happen, like chess, tennis, rugby, soccer. They're still fun to watch. You just need patience (Americans struggle with having patience) American football is jam packed with action because that's what the game is. Players can do more than just kick the ball, take it down field, pass it, or have it stolen like soccer, they can do all of that & more like running the ball, kicking it for points, change out players & position so you can run special plays. It's also exciting due to the recruiting efforts & the money they use to create competition & hyping games up as much as they can. The more action the more the fans will watch. As far as ads, everyone I know doesn't mind because you have your phone on hand to awnser messages you ignored while you watch a ball be thrown 50yds to be ran for a touchdown(goal). Plus snack runs, restroom breaks. American sports are presented differently to fans than European sports.

[@NanobanaKinako]

This is why I disagree when I heard about UCL being played in the US, It will fall like the NFL. UEFA should stop thinking the UCL is like the World Cup. Also you need 32 stadiums for all 32 teams in the competition to make home and away games makes sense. If you think about it, that'll be more expensive than hosting a World Cup.

[@victoriavs_.]

The only one american (from united states) sport that feels like football is baseball. Their fans have that kind of passion and nostalgia that football (worldwide) brings.

[@macgp44]

For American "tackle"' football to become a significant part of European sports culture there would need to be a substantial percentage of the players to be European, which means starting young on local teams at age 10, 11 or 12. I don't foresee that happening. The cost of the necessary equipment is considerable and the rules of the game are very complicated. In fact, it is decreasing in popularity as a sport for kids in the USA, as more and more American parents don't let their sons to play, since it has been well documented over the last decade that serious life-changing brain damage results from the collisions. Flag football eliminates almost all of that problem, but it has zero popularity as a spectator sport, so that's not an option. Some Europeans like to watch American football, but it will never reach one-tenth of the popularity of soccer football.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Excellent point. Thanks for being honest.

[@han6061]

Yes but in europe its free nothing in america is gonne be free like that

[@lancem9665]

to become popular, the European should have to play, have a team to support in Europe and not in the USA

[@shaunigothictv1003]

@@han6061 Excellent point

[@Soltain6]

Même avec ça c'est impossible

[@ilkkak3065]

American football biggest issue is its called football but mostly played by hands...😅

[@jolteddd1388]

english football biggest issue is them changing the name of the sport and getting mad when someone calls it what they changed it to

[@haruyanto8085]

​@@jolteddd1388 ok but they use their feet and balls?

[@janthecoo4964]

tbf, originally football just meant 'ball sport on foot'. rugby is also called football after all. nah, who am i kidding, americans are weird

[@NmpK24]

@@jolteddd1388 We didnt change the name, its always been called Football in England and the world for that matter (mostly). Thats why clubs use the initials FC or why FIFA is not called 'FISA'. Yes it is possible to have two or more words to describe the same thing, but it doesn't mean you have to use all of them. And btw, American Football gets its name because the ball is one foot long? If thats not a silly reason then what is?

[@thezackast2752]

American football gets its name from being a part of the general genre of 'football'. Association football is the most common, and is actually a bit of an odd one out with how it is played. Most forms allow the ball (normally egg/oval shaped) to be carried, kicked, or thrown. The genre comes from mob football, which has evolved into all the different types.

[@bertugali]

No marketing is enough to overtake football when every single European kid goes out to play football from sunrise to sunset, then gets yelled at by his mother for sweating so much but does it again tomorrow.

[@Ididntplayball]

“Why did a sport league, for a sport only millionaires & people who don’t care about getting crushed & beaten up every game can actually play, which games are 2hrs of ads + 1hr of actual play, failed in a market where an easy-to-play-and-watch, everyone-knows-about-it, multiple-league sport reign? What a confusing mystery!!”

[@thisguyrighthere3]

this is the problem with American sports in in general. they focus more on things like elephants and cheerleaders than the actual sport

[@QuantumNoir]

Only NFL does that tbh.

[@thisguyrighthere3]

@@QuantumNoir ok that might be true. maybe i shouldnt have said in general tho i remember that chick Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas singing a horrible song at a NBA game and other stuff like that

[@QuantumNoir]

@@thisguyrighthere3 NBA does get alot of celebrity endorsements. NFL throws off a very circus type vibe. Other US team sports are way more chill

[@powerful1895]

@@thisguyrighthere3 these cheerleaders and funny shit is a fucking turn off

[@InformerMaz]

Cheerleaders? Eh, it’s mostly for high school and college for football. In NFL, there are cheerleaders but it’s not super huge. I feel like with celebrities, it’s to bring more casual fans to tune in, but I wouldn’t say it’s a huge focus. Idk lol.

[@angelrobles7201]

The Trump effect wasn't just the name rights. This goes deeper. Between 1983 and 1985, there was a spring league, the USFL. Its sporting side was relatively good, but its financial side wasn't. They aimed to improve it by forcing a merger with the NFL, with two actions for it. -Moving the 1986 season to autumn, to compete directly with the NFL. -Filling an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL. The USFL won the lawsuit, and were awarded compensation... $1 (which tripled to $3 under antitrust laws, and then went to $3.76 thanks to interests). The lawsuit costs (minus that "hefty" amouny of compensation) drove the league into folding. The amount spent by the league at that point were over $163 million, and they needed to win $300 million via the lawsuit to survive. Now, the driving force behind this strategy was the majority owner of the New Jersey Generals, none other than Donald Trump. Basically, his actions helped the NFL to have no competition and free slots in the spring for their International League project. By the way, legend says that the $3.76 check is yet to be cashed.

[@SkreltNL]

It is MSM who plays 1 side against another People with money want to brand football "soccer" TV shows, Anime, Amercian MSM, you name it "soccer" vs Football is created to play 1 faction against another And Australian Football wants a word to, if American football is just "FOOTBALL OMG!"

[@StylistecS]

Facts. I bet if the USFL kept that scheduled I think it would have had a great chance to win out. It would have changed the entire landscape of American sports.

[@Energyflash1979]

American football has to make it entertaining by accompanying it with many other attractions throughout it's broadcast whereas football is a much better spectator sport just on its own. Stoppages and substitutions shouldn't be used for any changes possible within a match. Having players who can adapt to the changes is also a spectacle the fans want to see.

[@matheuspazin9240]

Ive been a fan of NFL in the past, but I cant stand anymore those commercials every 5 minutes, the 3h~3.5h per match, the insane ammount of rules and referees reviewing plays. It is a cool game, but it is hard to bring new people when you a offer a product 3h long that is hard to understand and with so many breaks.

[@syed_mamoon99]

NFL's recent success could nearly be a case study on how to grow sports (relatively unknown to rest of the world) in new markets, like cricket, rugby and much more.

[@torrinmedia3998]

NFL hasn’t grown much in Europe tho. The World Cup Final 2022 had 1.5 billion viewers. The Super Bowl will never come close to that

[@j4genius961]

@@torrinmedia3998 Jesus Christ, not everything has to be about European Football vs American football, we all know which one is bigger...And the fact that the world cup beat the superbowl doesn't negate OP's argument about the NFL growing either; here's a personal example to drive my point home: my younger brother has grown by nearly a foot last year, but he's still shorter than me since I'm 5 years older... Yet it doesn't mean that he hasn't grown at all, got it?

[@reddevil5543]

@@j4genius961 where has NFL grown though? I have lived in UK, Australia and Nepal for a while and it's not popular in any of these countries, in Nepal people don't even know American football is a different sport, while Australia has its own version of football, competing with soccer, cricket etc. And in UK people will laugh at the suggestion of someone watching NFL. I don't understand where it has really grown

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@@torrinmedia3998 part of it has to do with geography. The US is an ocean away from Europe which makes it hard for a sport to travel

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@@reddevil5543 Germany and Mexico

[@samuraijack0876]

One is a regional sport. The other is a global sport. Not comparable.

[@timwiesler6365]

Yet

[@AntonioAio]

@@timwiesler6365 never.

[@timwiesler6365]

@@AntonioAio How do you know that? It's played in Asia and Australia, there's a new European league etc. It's getting bigger

[@AntonioAio]

@@timwiesler6365 Come on, man😆 YOU are living in a bubble, and its time to get out of it ;)

[@timwiesler6365]

@@AntonioAio How am I living in a bubble?

[@maxscameraguy]

My brother had a law professor who was one of the executives for the Barcelona Dragons. After the first season, he had a meeting with season ticket holders and one person suggested they stop having "meetings after every play" he was confused then the guy went on to describe a huddle.

[@snt03]

that man went on to become chip kelly

[@FlorinArjocu]

Funny to see this while in France there's the Rugby World Championship and everywhere in town there are signs, ads, all sorts of things related to it. Probably more people in this mid-sized town watch rugby than people in France watch American football.

[@Michael-uu7zq]

Probably? It’s a definitely. The nfl don’t stream their game internationally, for someone outside of the USA, they would have to stream it. Often time illegally.

[@Special_ed1]

@@Michael-uu7zq not illegally you you just need to get a subscription to some tv channel

[@frozello14]

I still don't get how some people don't understand that any sport league will do better, if player pool has more nationalities and not just 70% of one nationality as it's just easier to start to support some team, if you have "one from your country" playing there so you can start support that team and maybe get wiser and find out some other team you like later on.

[@regalcartoon3952]

Half the reason the NFL wants to expand is to get more nationalities and ethnicities into their league. But the European football fans keep shooting us down.

[@Klopfer_]

And a system where relegation can happen

[@abelernestoflores-perez8765]

Si pero eso muchas veces no fomenta que un país explote su potencial unas de las principales razones por las que mexico no puede mejorar en el fútbol (soccer) es por que nuestra liga está llena de extranjero y los equipos prefieren traer extranjeros y no jóvenes promesas mexicanas.

[@benitocamelo1488]

@@abelernestoflores-perez8765 es cierto, las canteras están de adorno y el nivel de la liga ha bajado bastante en los últimos años. Cada vez a menos gente le interesa el futbol en México, por cierto.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

I mean, it's in the US. We get behind whatever team is in our specific state

[@theochanmanunited7815]

Football is the most popular one because of its nature: - Easy to setup a game, no need special uniform or tools. So anyone, anywhere, any condition, can play. - Million of small guys (same size as Messi, for example) can dream to play football in top level. This is not the same with American Football and basket ball. Therefore, it inspried more people to play football.

[@henryjw15]

What your talking about, the Arizona cardinals Qb is toddler size.

[@dxfifa]

@@henryjw15 He is 5'10" 207 pounds. The premier league in England is known to be the most physical and one of the tallest top football leagues in the world. There are about 100 players in 20 teams in that league alone who are 5'9" or shorter. Messi 5'6" Maradona 5'5" Pele 5'8" 3 generational best players who are GOAT contenders all 5'8" or under

[@adanalyst6925]

@@dxfifa that’s a good point. I’m an American and always liked baseball because there were more room for different sizes. But that’s a pro for Association Fb as well. Never liked how basketball was just based on how tall you happened to be

[@tyronelorenzovalentio3414]

@@dxfifathe tallest leagues in the world come from Netherlands Mate U mean physical league then yeah prem

[@alexanderbertisch1006]

@@dxfifa the average american football player is way way way stronger than essentially any football player. never stars like messi, ronaldo, mbappe, neymar, benzema even get close to scratching a 220 lbs benchpress, theyre half the size of american football players. this gives the sport greater reach for smaller humans, but also makes it more accessible to players, no football player lifts weight for the sake of football, its probably even a hinderance. Football is a more technical game, when american football just feeds on freakish physicality.

[@6ENN]

You're right one of the biggest problems is that american football could be difficult to understand, its like a more complex rugby sort of. I feel like flag football, especially at the olympics, could really help with that

[@doctorstainy]

I read that the actual time for when the ball was in play in a superbowl was like 12 minutes, thats crazy when the whole thing last like 6 hours. Funny when you hear a nfl fan diss soccer by saying nothing happens just a bunch of passes for 90 minutes, meanwhile nfl is apparently just a bunch of commercial breaks and waiting for players to stand in a line facing eachother.

[@233Hicks]

that's... really grim. I thought it was bad with the EFL 2. It was something like 50 minutes in play out of 90 there.

[@BobSmith-ql7fb]

I understand that on paper this sounds miserable, but in practice it’s not that bad. When you know the tactics better, the lining up feels a lot less pointless. Since the team with the ball is essentially forced to be aggressive since you need to advance up the field to keep it, it builds anticipation for each play, and you’re forced to think tactics between downs. The commercials between drives do suck, but that’s why we have commercial-free channels that let you keep track of several games at once lol. Also in a big game or in the stadium, that tension of knowing your team needs to score or even just get a few yards to stay alive gets you through it. Feel free to shame any NFL fan that makes a dumb comment like that though, that’s a lazy take from people that don’t understand soccer. I think if Americans took the time to follow a team through promotion/relegation and if Europeans came for a college football game + tailgate or watched NFL Redzone with a bunch of us, we’d all understand each other a lot better.

[@QuantumNoir]

Dang! Crazy interesting. I'm American. I'm not a fan of NFL by any means but I casually keep up with updates out of curiosity and people around me. NFL is still super popular but I see it as stabilizing. I see basketball moving up incrementally and soccer jumping upward.

[@EquaYonah]

NFL isn't stabilizing anytime soon. This is probably the most lucrative it's ever been lol. And now KZbin is gonna be streaming the NFL package instead of an old school TV provider. Dunno when the bubble bursts but it's not anytime soon. I mean, 80 of the top 100 most watched TV programs in the USA was NFL lol. That's ridiculous 😂

[@QuantumNoir]

@@EquaYonah Financials are a whole different beast bro. On the ground floor, I see zero growth. It's already at a very high level. Some diehards are old and I see maybe just enough youth to cover those losses. I dont see spectator growth. Commercials, demographics, other sports and interests play a factor. I always see football being number 1. I can see basketball closing the gap much more. I see soccer skyrocketing to an eventual 3rd position, a solid step behind basketball. Football already captured the peak that it was gonna capture. Surely it will generate more $ just like other leagues too. MLS is still in it's beginnings and it's already the 10th richest sports league on Earth. MLS is also behind a paywall and only the 3rd watched soccer league in the US. 🇺🇸⚽️🔜⬆️⬆️⬆️

[@juice8431]

me too, I am not all that interested in football but I absolutely love everything around it. Super Bowl parties, the live concerts I barely give a frick about the actual game itself 😂😂😂

[@SeanDaNerd]

There are more and more casual hoopers as time goes by too. And soccer is growing bit by bit. I remember when I started high school, no one gave a crap about soccer. By the time I graduated (which is almost a decade ago) most of the male faculty and maybe 10% more students all started liking and respecting soccer. And we’ll keep calling it soccer in the US. It’s just easier when you have multiple sports called football.

[@real_mingolas]

​​@@tarjeihs That's true, NFL is unheard outside of USA. Me and most of the people i know, and i'm sure most of the people in my country can't even name a single american football player. I just learned through the comments 🤣 that NFL doesn't have clubs, they have "franchises" whatever that means haha.

[@tomosprice8136]

Here in Wales American Football will never rival football or rugby. Rugby is well established here as our traditional national sport and American Football is too similar that it will never become a serious rival

[@Salibascored]

Yes, but Wales is still good in Football, with Stars like Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsay

[@Milo_751]

@@Salibascored bales retired and Ramsay is only known for playing arsenal and juventus and his goals killing celebs

[@sirwadsontoast5928]

I mean multiple sports can still succeed. NBA, Baseball Hockey, MLS. Don't rival the NFL in the United States, but they're still able to succeed.

[@tomosprice8136]

@@sirwadsontoast5928 US has 100x more people than Wales so more room for multiple sports. We only really have enough people for 2 sports and those are football and rugby

[@sirwadsontoast5928]

@@tomosprice8136 true that's a good point.

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

London is a huge city, it can easily absorb an NFL franchise, many NFL matches have been played there and they always sell out (either Twickenham or Wembley, both 80k seater stadiums). NFL is a tiny global sport however with no international matches, unlike Cricket, Rugby or Football; other major sports in London.

[@MindSurf248]

I honestly think that 2 of the biggest barriers for American football are 1. The fact it gets called AMERICAN Football, and 2. The fact that unlike basketball it has a sport (Rugby) that is incredibly popular in alot of target countries, and is seen as filling a similar Niche. And yer it will never overtake proper football as the global sport, not in this century.

[@bharatavarsha10k]

Woohooo 600K 🎉🎉🎉... Congrats AI, Long way to go! Also, another Quality sports biz video as usual❤️❤️❤️. I've started using few points in your videos to quote my future projects in sports, Thanks man❤️

[@FCTOKYOARG]

103 million people watch the last super bowl 4 billion people watch the last world cup final between argentina and france. American eggball can't compete

[@FCTOKYOARG]

@@fernandom572 you are comparing that to 4 billion people, there are 8 billion people on the planet, half of then watched the world cup. But us american keep claiming that "superbowl is better".. Nothing personal bud, but can't tolerante that a sport and tournament only dispute in one country can be "a world tournament". The video stated that eggball slowly but surely would compete against real football for global sport. But that won't be happening unless you open your sport to the rest of the world, which won't be happening neither

[@seastar-qw2qg]

Went to watch superbowl for the first time ever. Saw the time was 4 hrs and it was already midnight in my country. Sighed and changed channel to put on 1hr 30 mins of premier league match. I felt good that night.

[@amarevanhook7453]

Aye it was a good game man

[@Amm17ar]

Would have been much better for them to establish a league there during the off-season. From March to August, a Euro league plays and acts as not just a feeder league. Its a seperate league, but they could have a unifying championship at some point during the cross-over period between the American season and the European season. Players would have more options for teams, talent could develop and they could prioritize international talent development and scouting in the Euro league. The NFL champions and the Euro champions play a game in around september sort of like a community shield or something. Dump some money into educating audiences on the sport, and let the thing grow naturally as opposed to creating a huge Americanized spectacle, dumping money into the wrong aspects and expecting immediate results.

[@parmentier7457]

I am Dutch and I am from the 80's. In the 90's the American Football club Amsterdam Admirals was very popular. Amsterdam and the German clubs were the only ones left in the Football Europa League. But in the 1990s, the NBA was more popular in the Netherlands, the era of Michael Jordan. Myself and most of my classmates often wore NBA basketball jerseys and caps. In addition, hip-hop music also became more popular and they often wore basketball clothing in video clips. In the late 1990s, European football became more popular again in the Netherlands, partly because AFC Ajax won everything in the world.

[@newprofilesowhat1339]

I remember playing against Amsterdam Crusaders in a Euro Bowl qualifier in the late 80s....

[@Ivovify]

Dit is erg eenzijdig geschreven. Jouw omgeving = niet heel Nederland.

[@SpawnBootcamp]

Boeruhhh!@@Ivovify

[@Vinsmoke_Zine]

Congratulation for the 600K Subscribers !

[@AthleticInterest]

Thank you :)

[@tenshko5055]

the reason why NFL will never surpass football is that even in poor streets in south america you can play football usin a can, and you will never replce its MAGIC

[@r.o.b8728]

Ever heard of flag football?

[@ucfcgang3226]

The problem is that there is just the NFL. Nothing else. Only about 30 teams and 1 competitions. The draft makes it even weirder

[@thelyingwhale8414]

I fucking love to watch a sports game where I spend more of 50% the time with waiting

[@sayedsadnamsakey9140]

No bro 10% gameplay and 90% marketing and celebrity performance.

[@astingray1647]

name checks out

[@sebastianguerrajimenezlabo5377]

I mean, I live in Mexico and I love watching both american football and real football, i don't think they would need to compete for the viewers as anyone can watch them both

[@henryjw15]

@Carlos Andrade can’t stand watching fake tigers, or pumas for that matter.

[@NRhys]

As a Scotsman who lives in America I feel uniquely qualified to comment. My first ever American football game was The Scottish Claymores in my home of Edinburgh in the 90’s, and many years later I just attended my first game in Los Angeles where I live, and the same problem exists from the 90’s until today. It’s not about market share, money, any of that. At it’s core the sport is just incredibly DULL. It’s painfully slow and painfully short on actual sport. Roughly 11 mins of action in a 3 hour broadcast. The reason the MLS goes from strength to strength in America is because the actual product is good. Americans are enjoying actually being part of a club rather than a customer in the NFL. The only way I’d ever see it changing in Europe beyond the weird niche American-files is changing the sport intrinsically and to be more like it’s father sport rugby. It’s a crap sport wrapped in such amazing marketing that it blinds Americans to see how boring it is.

[@bigredracingdog466]

MLS isn't going "from strength to strength in America." It's a minor sport at the back of a long line of more popular sports. Soccer will always be a minor sport here. Yes, the action is continuous, but it is low quality action, dribbling around in circles and passing back and forth. Every once in a while there is a corner kick and you get 5 seconds of meaningful action. There is more action in one football play than 10 minutes of soccer.

[@thanhnguyentruong32]

@@bigredracingdog466 bark harder man, NFL trying hard to put money on promoting and marketing but still failed pathetically outside US since then, and MLS is worst crap league soccer but ironically keeping rising than ever, and kids, young gen already mostly loving soccer but not necessary MLS.

[@bigredracingdog466]

@@thanhnguyentruong32 The NFL is the #1 sport in the US and will be for the foreseeable future. Any fans they gain overseas is just window dressing. As for MLS, the NFL averages 18-20 mil viewers per weekend. Another 20 mil watch college football weekly. MLS has fewer than 400,000. It's a niche sport here.

[@thanhnguyentruong32]

​@@bigredracingdog466 I dont talk abt MLS cause it's still a crappy league not even top 10 in the world. And ussf is trash, youth development is broken(pay to play), MLS put behind the paywall not television like other major sport, and the main media intentionally ignore, oppress soccer(soccer is bad for commercial break ads like US sport not good for television). Despite of all that soccer still rapid growing, one of the most popular sport to watch and play among kids . Any random famous club from EU play just friendly game in US always draw massive fans. Like CFL in canada is failing with stadium is always empty, American football is only work well in US, with the cultural support, media cover all over, massive money put on marketing, that's why only heard of soccer player in US give up and play football, basketball where the money, fame at. But if soccer done right with all that problem being said, it's def at least top 2 in US or even top 1.

[@ryooo785]

The NFL was actually so much better when people only referred to it as " American Football" and not anything else.

[@fvw1187]

American football (as an American who played growing up) is a blood sport. I played free safety and would just take kids heads off and I thought it was fun. It really wasn’t at all. And I and many others will probably feel the effects as we get older. Whether it’s more or less entertaining is not the point. If I have kids they will play soccer.

[@ardi1606]

American football is the soft version of Rugby.

[@fvw1187]

@Ardi94 idk about that. In football leading with your head to force a fumble or otherwise rattle the opponent is encouraged. Rugby is definitely harsh but the pads in football I think encourage even more dangerous play than rugby could even make possible. Offensive linemen especially.

[@thomasticehurst7707]

@@ardi1606 Rugby has lots of restrictions to what counts as a legal tackle, Football does not have nearly as many, Look up a football tackle/hit compilation vs rugby, rugby players go for what looks like a wrestling take down, while football players will try to run through the other guy. This isn't a good thing about football either, Football is dangerouse and not in the cool tough way, but more like many people die from playing it every year and that doesn't take into account cte. My kids can play rugby,soccer,basketball even mma or boxing but they won't touch football and many NFL players say the same thing.

[@ardi1606]

@@thomasticehurst7707 You have no idea about rugby. Have you seen Rugby injuries? Rugby is the sport with the most death rate among its players with 4.6 deaths per 100,000 players vs American Football's 1.0. Most are coming from head injuries. It's more deadly than American football.

[@ardi1606]

@@fvw1187 Rugby is 4 times deadlier than American Football. 4.6 catastrophic injuries for every 100,000 players vs Rugby 1.0 is not a joke. Those protective pads and their mother's tights sure protected them. They could even survive a c4 explosion with those tampons all over their bodies. Lmao

[@rapperodebarrio]

Im coming from a spanish town with an american military base in the 80s. My brother used to play Yall football for the Osos the Madrid! We have the first hiphop disco of spain they said. But then all that hype diluted somehow

[@boatymcboatface7161]

The worst part about American Football is the commercial breaks. The CONSTANT commercial breaks. Even when you're at the stadium, you're still waiting for the commercial breaks to end. The older I get, the fewer games I watch because it's 15 minutes of action surrounded by 3 hours of commercials.

[@kirkwoodbharris5110]

I see rugby gaining more popularity than the NFL (American football fans might even show an interest in rugby, partially so they can be part of a global game - the NFL is and will always be a US-only game)

[@vicvicking1990]

Another reason no western european country watchs NFL is Rugby. Its too similar for unfamiliar people and Rugby is big in the 6 nations countries. Plus there really is no AF world cup, and its easier to bring people in if they root for their country rather than a club

[@MustacheDLuffy]

Rugby is big in Germany I think and they seem to like football

[@afbismedia2221]

​@@MustacheDLuffy Yea it could overtake Rugby it needs to get in people heads with a trick I feel like American Football 🏈 can overtake Rugby in Germany

[@SuperAnimeking100]

Isn't American Football derived from Rugby and that's how it got its name?

[@yannick245]

@@MustacheDLuffy I'm from Heidelberg, Germany. Besides Hanover it's basically the only German city where rugby plays a role. They once made up the whole first league. Now the first league is made up of two divisions. North and South. The biggest rugby clubs in Heidelberg are even rowing clubs first. Sounds funny when there's a rugby match between the _"Heidelberg Rowing Society"_ vs. the _"Heidelberg Rowing Club"._ It's because most of them go back to the university of Heidelberg and rowing was a thing before rugby.

[@williamlembke7828]

No. They have similarities but in the end they are very different. Rugby has 15 players on the field & once you substitute you can't go back in, American Football has 11 players on the field & can substitute between each play/try. There is a lot more. I watch Rugby as well as American Football. My sister knows American Football & played soccer her whole life & Rugby in college & said that American foot ball & rugby are similar, but totally different.

[@marcus7392]

Their biggest problem is that it's so boring. Game interruptions all the time, commercials, switching from offense to defense. There's also no tension in the NFL since no one can get relegated, teams can relocate, and there's a playoff system that leaves things to chance.

[@r.o.b8728]

Name a single time where a soccer team has gone from the 3rd division to the 1st and then you might actually have a point

[@marcus7392]

@@r.o.b8728 what’s your point? You have something to lose in the 1st division and you definitely have something to win in the other divisions. Many teams go up and down all the time. But ok. Glasgow rangers, Brighton & Hove Albion FC, Sunderland relegated a couple of leagues.

[@r.o.b8728]

@@marcus7392 My point is that the team that wins in soccer is the teams with the most money while in the nfl everyone has a chance

[@marcus7392]

@@r.o.b8728 let’s agree to disagree. I will keep passion for my football team and you for your American football team.

[@r.o.b8728]

@@marcus7392 we were disagreeing with that? i thought we were just having a friendly discussion i don't hate soccer i just don't find enjoyment in watching it like i do with football if you enjoy watching soccer rather than football then go for it don't let someone else take that away from you

[@sos.gamers]

I never met any person in the world who likes NFL, not in South America / Europe / Asia....

[@tibimatei19]

The big difference between American Football and Football/Soccer are the complex rules: In American Football there are 288 pages of rules while Soccer has one basic concept all europeans knew since 3-4 years old: Kick a ball around with your feet, don't go out of bounds, and simply try to score

[@artdigiweb]

You’re missing the importance of rugby on countries like France, England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland which is similar to American Football and more popular than it.

[@exeterjedi6730]

I've followed NFL since 1986, and am a fan, but they've been trying to expand to Europe for over 30 years, and the sport is so lumbering, with enormous squads of players and massive logistics, that even putting on one game in London is some kind of big deal. Meanwhile association football has built a 29 team league in the USA and Canada, plus lower leagues with more than 60 teams. The US hosted the World Cup in 1994 and will again in 2026. Rugby has the beginnings of a league there, and the USA will host men's and women's World Cups in the 2030s, plus both rugby and football in the 2028 Olympics, plus regularly hosting the World Sevens Series. Cricket is now starting a league in the US. The elephant seems like a good metaphor, because the NFL is a lumbering beast. NFL overthinks everything, and under-delivers.

[@mmmcounts]

One advantage that soccer has over American football is the international aspect and the global nature of the game. There are national teams for both men and women's soccer, and for a Whole lot of people, the World Cup and other international competitions provide introductory formative experiences. They really have a way of drawing in the casual fan. Beyond that, you've got Champions League types of competitions between the best clubs of different leagues. The Premier League has sort of become the NBA of the sport, but for the most part, a bunch of different leagues are close to being on the same level. You've got a very full calendar with all these different competitions, and American football is nowhere close to replicating that. It probably never will. Beyond that, the NFL generates an enormous amount of revenue- and management/owners have done a very good job of securing the bag for themselves while the players get far less than they should. Going forward, however, there's ongoing litigation regarding medical care, concussions, and the responsibility that the league has in the long term. It's a gradual process, but meaningful precedent is going to be set. The NFL is okay to cover that cost, but the legal ramifications will trickle down to major college programs and then to high schools. A time is coming when it will be incredibly expensive to field a gridiron football team, from an insurance standpoint. Over time- a pretty long time, admittedly- that's going to cut the legs out from the pipeline of talent to the NFL. They're trying to protect players with rule changes, but you can only do that so much before the entertainment value declines. The NFL is in a tough spot long term, and I think they know it too. Soccer is getting there, though, and North America will experience another turning point in 2026. A generation of Americans that experienced the 1994 World Cup as kids, then grew up with MLS as a viable league, were the ones that were introduced to the sport. Now they have kids and they'll take those kids through a similar process.

[@bradguidry4717]

Although there are other reasons I think all the commercials breaks when watching American Football on TV is one of the big factors on it not getting as popular on the world stage. I think if people from other countries can experience the atmosphere of a game live for example the tailgating or the energy in the stands they may enjoy it a little bit more. Big College football games GameDay experiences are usually even bigger sometimes better than NFL.

[@FlorinArjocu]

You get that energy from any sport you like. Go to a football (soccer for Americans) match between two important teams and it is crazy energetic. Damn, even some small teams will have that during the match. In all sports.

[@epicow_1973]

People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few. Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game. It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport. It's fine if you don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

[@deiniolbythynnwr926]

American football isn't more strategic because it stops all the time. That's not an objective measure. It is in fact far, far less strategic. @@epicow_1973

[@radwanavised]

Would love to hear next about the NBA's plans to conquer the world. They have started a league in Africa, played games in India, thinking of having a franchise in Mexico etc etc etc

[@ATS1031]

nba is pretty boring tho until the play offs and so many players dive/flop all the time or are always complaining about playing too much

[@williandalsoto806]

@@ATS1031 still much better than american football

[@ATS1031]

@@williandalsoto806 idk as an american who loves futbol ive been enjoying american football a lot more recently than nba nba playoffs are lit tho

[@TunaStrata]

Why should be nba dominated the world? Curious question. Nba is not fifa. Nba just national league. Did the rest of the world not allowed to make their own league?

[@ATS1031]

@@TunaStrata im assuming he means basketball in general which is pretty popular in europe

[@moloko5]

The US has 5 sports. Soccer is certainly a big sport for viewership even if the league is second rate. Most fans follow more than one, even if most don't follow all 5 closely. Australia and the UK both have multiple sports. Not sure why fans in countries who only like football are so adamant that they couldn't actually begin to follow a second sport without taking away from their favorite, but it's a common sentiment.

[@liamot]

I used to watch NFL but stopped due to their streaming policy. Gamepass in Ireland is 160e and it used to allow you to watch all the games live. They started enforcing regional blackouts so if sky are showing the game you want to watch, tough luck for you, wait 24 hours after the game completes to watch it. Given that sky show a lot of the big games, it makes your subscription pretty pointless.

[@triggerfinger7831]

If I were to like American football, I think I'd love rugby first. I mean the difference between them that I noticed (with my limited knowledge about both sports) is that one can throw the ball forward while the other one cannot.

[@crazydrummer181]

The tackling is vastly different as well.

[@farmerash]

@@crazydrummer181 For me it seems normal that tackling would be different when in one sport you wear about 10 kg of extra protective equipment.

[@yungzooma3650]

lots of big differences between the two sports, the misconception that the only difference is the forward pass and pads is one reason football is hard to market in rugby nations and rugby in America.

[@epicow_1973]

People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few. Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game. It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport. It's fine if people don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

[@TheCidraque]

@@epicow_1973 Too bad is boring as hell

[@Random_Guy518]

I also think that what makes it so hard for American sports leagues to appeal for the European casual fans is the timezones. For example a lot of people will choose their local basketball league over the NBA just because the games air at 7pm and not at 5am. I consider myself a passionate NHL fan but I still rarely watch games live because of the time difference. Only at the playoffs do I start watching multiple games a week and even that means probably 1-3 games.

[@keal4399]

I am from Mexico and I have many friends from South America who also have times similar to the USA, the problem is not that, the problem is that for many it is a boring and complex sport. Children from a young age can play football (the real one) in the streets because you only need a ball, you can play alone or with 1 friend, on the other hand, American football requires more people, understanding the rules, having a ball that nobody has and space , that's why nobody is interested and real football is practically a religion because of how simple it is

[@haruyanto8085]

Timezones and rugby, rugby already gives what nfl does and unlike nfl rugby teams have local players

[@rich7447]

I grew up in Canada, now live in the US and rarely watch NHL games because they are rarely broadcast on regular TV.

[@estrafalario5612]

People watch Tennis, Formula 1 and the Asian Market is already big for the broadcasting of European football matches. No, the timezones aren't the problem. A sport being boring and unpractical to play is the problem

[@smashyboi6887]

@@keal4399Tbf you only need two people to throw a football around. Plus all those requirements you described are not needed to have fun

[@der_ludo5460]

I think for the NFL and American football to really get big in Europe, you would need to make the local leagues better. Ultimately one of the reasons why football is so popular here is that every city has its own team and people will often root for the team from their city or for a team from the first league that is somewhat close to their city. The fixed league is another big issue. This whole idea of maybe moving down a league if your team performs poorly or going up a league if you perform well creates a lot of additional tension that makes the games more interesting to watch. If all the teams in a league are fixed, why should I watch it if my team from my city never has a chance to join anyway? If it goes well you could then either include a few teams from Europe in the NFL or create a new super league like the Champions league, where the best three or four teams from each country play against each other.

[@JonGrove-ub8cv]

For me, part of the problem with American sports (I say as a British fan of the New York Jets), is that American sports teams are mostly created by billionaires looking to make money. It is always a business. The fact the owners raise the trophy at the Superbowl is sickening to me. Csn you really manufacture true passion and heritage from that, it needs years worth of time to bed in. Football teams in Europe have often existed since the late 19th/early 20th century. They have had decades of tradition and support thst really builds a diehard loyalty in the fans.

[@epicow_1973]

​@@JonGrove-ub8cv Money definitely is a driving factor in european sports. Their draft is brutal, and they're trying to find ways to improve their money. People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few. Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game. It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport. It's fine if you don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

[@JonGrove-ub8cv]

​@@epicow_1973 ​ Did you even read my comment?🤣 1. At no point do i say football in Europe isn't a business. What i do say is that unlike in America, sports teams were created organically, by communities for the communities. There are countless teams, set up in the late 19th/early 20th century that were set up by groups of friends or local community groups. Most sports teams in america were set up as franchises of the league, by rich billionaires who buy the rights to a team in any given city. There is a huge difference. Of course, over the last 30 years particularly, football is now the biggest business in sport. A game that has a truly global reach, but it's leagues and teams were often not created as such. That is my point. 2. You show your own ignorance by stating that American Football is more strategic than rest of the world football. As i stated and you seemed to ignore in your rush to tell me i was wrong, i have been a fan of the New York Jets since the days of Chad Pennington and Wayne Chrebet. I enjoy the sport. It has some truly amazing and dramatic moments. Any sport is strategic and tactical once you reach a certain level of competency. You can sit and brag about the refs and their technology but i know full well they make absolutely awful decisions every single game. So i wouldn't shout about that too loud if i were you. More rules? The NFL rulebook as downloadable from the NFL website for the 2023 NFL season is 85 pages of A4. The rulebook published by the English FA for the 2023/24 season is 746 pages long. Even accounting for the tedious lists of FA board members and other nonsense, it's quite clear there is a lot more to football than you know or ever bothered to research. 3. Tactically, have you every actually bothered to look up the different schools of thought and tactics of football? The Dutch Total Football of the 70's? The Tiki Taka approach of Barcelona and Spain in the 00's? The gegenpressing tactics of Klopp and his Liverpool and Dortmund sides that win titles in Germany and England? What about the tactics of parking the bus? The High Press? The Counter Attack? The Long Ball? The formations of the classic 4-4-2 versus the deployment of wing backs in a 5-3-2 or a move away from the traditional number 9 in favour faster, nippier wingers? With american football, you have the offence and the defence. On offence, it ultimately breaks down to the blocky people, the catchy people, the runny people and the throwy one. On defence, the big ones who chase the QB, the smaller ones who tackle people in the midfield and then the smaller ones who stop people in the backfield. There is of course more nuance to it than that. The Legion of Boom versus the Sack Exchange approach etc, but it isn't some grand complicated plan any more than any sport played at the elite level is. Please, at least look it up before you blindly state things you don't understand. I enjoy both sports. Football is of course my favourite, as it is around the world. The fundamental simplicity of football means it can be played in any patch of land around with the world, without the need of expensive equipment. Kids can put two jumpers down as goal posts and use a crushed can as a ball and you have a simple game of football. That is why it is the world's most popular sport, because it is at its core, a simple game that is very easily accessible. It is loved around the world. No american sport can touch it. Does that mean American sports aren't good? No of course not. As said, i have enjoyed watching the NFL since 2005. I still remember watching the superbowl between the Bears and Colts and Devin Hester scoring a TD from a kickoff return in the first 3 seconds. It is a great sport and as you say, so much of it comes down to personal preference. But as i have illustrated, there is a lot more to football than you are willing to entertain, i hope you bother to open your mind to it.

[@epicow_1973]

@@JonGrove-ub8cv Did you at all read my comment? Somehow you manage to make 4, long, paragraphs and in all of them you prove absolutely nothing. What you seem to forget is that american football is far capitalistic than the premier league. Teams like Chelsea manage to buy off all the players, teams like manchester city spent hundreds of millions- even billions of dollars on making their team having better trainers, equipment, and players than all the other premier league teams, and they won the UEFA championship through that. Meanwhile in NFL, although some teams are worth more than others, all of the teams are worth at least (around) 5 billion, and there are much better enforced, and more significant spending limits. In fact, the spread of team value has almost nothing to do with historic success, and instead has everything to do with location and stadiums. This allows NFL teams to essentially have a fairly equal playing field, and the only real significant factor is drafting, which is why almost every back-to-back super bowl win was in the 1970s. And in terms of strategy, im sorry but you must have never watched a breakdown of NFL plays, because every play in the NFL is incredibly calculated, with man-to-man zone defenses, to route running, to overall team strategy. It's not even a competition which game is more complicated and strategic, as the NFL is objectively several times more complicated. the strategy it takes to gain 50 yards in NFL is more complicated than an entire game of association football; Any sports strategist would tell you that, because thats how the entire game was designed to do. If you wonder why there are so many ads, thats because teams need to strategize during turnovers.

[@JonGrove-ub8cv]

@@epicow_1973 ​ So the term hypocrite doesn't register with you then? For someone who is having a go at me for making long points and proving nothing, your comments don't actually address anything i said really and instead you just go off on self indulgent rant that proves nothing but your own ignorance. So here we go... 1. At what point do i talk about the competitiveness or the financial viability of either league? Your whole comment about that is completely irrelevant to what i said. I said...as i will say for the third time now...AMERICAN SPORTS TEAMS ARE OFTEN MANUFACTURED BY RICH BILLIONAIRES WHO BUY THE RIGHTS FROM THE NFL OR WHATEVER LEAGUE THEY PLAY IN. FOOTBALL TEAMS IN EUROPE WERE OFTEN FOUNDED BY COMMUNITY GROUPS AND GROUPS OF FRIENDS IN THE LATE 19TH OR EARLY 20TH CENTURY. THEY WERE NOT SET UP AS BUSINESSES. IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO HOW FANS CAN SEE THEM. Why is that so hard for you to address honestly instead of crying on about how the NFL is better or for some bizarre reason, how NFL rosters are constructed? I've told you, i like the NFL, i enjoy the sport. I don't need a lesson from you in how the league works or how competitive the league can be. I have been a fan of the Jets since 2005. I am very aware. I have watched plenty of NFL coverage thanks. Can i ask you to explain, by focusing on association football and explaining that to me, why its tactics and strategy is inferior to the NFL? Because i've got a sneaky suspicion you don't know all that much about football and are just making blind comments based on your own prior bias. I'd love to hear how many matches you have watched. You just don't have a clue 🤣, your ignorance is clear. You prove nothing, all you do is make assertions. You don't know enough about football to be able to make an intelligent comparison (please prove me wrong). Why couldn't you comment at all on the different types of tactics used by football teams? The importance of different positions and the evolving game? What do you know about football players needing to be good at all aspects of the game, not just being specialists in one aspect? When to bring on substitutes? Do you employ an offside trap? The tactics employed by Fernando Diniz and his anti-positional play versus Guardiola's heavily positional play? We are talking about a sport, unlike the NFL, where losing actually matters. Teams can't tank to get a better draft pick, teams get relegated and actually need to win games. There is no guaranteed income, every game matters. So shut up, sit down and educate yourself.

[@Meban101]

I mainly only hear and see american football, baseball and basketball in america and nowhere else in the world. But football is worldwide. Even the smallest country in the world appreciate the sport.

[@HoudiniGameArtist]

Latin America and east Asia play baseball. Europe plays basketball. And Canadians love American football.

[@gannielukks1811]

Still, football is greater in most of these countries.

[@AmbushRL.]

@@HoudiniGameArtist In Canada it's Canadian football

[@AmbushRL.]

What do you mean baseball and basketball no where else in the world? Baseball is the biggest sport in japan and several countries in Latin America including Venezuela and Cuba. Basketball is massive in Eastern Europe and is the biggest sport in Lithuania.

[@monablues5816]

The most professional KZbin channel and congratulations for the growth, soon to be 1 million subs

[@michaelwesthead-sportsinst4279]

One thing many may not be considering is the destination/travel component of these games. I went last fall to the Giants vs Packers in London and all I saw, all throughout London, was a sea of Green for the Packers and Blue for the Giants. Americans will travel, especially to London, for these games. I don't have any #'s but Americans traveling to this particular game probably filled more than half the stadium. Many other team's fans travel well too: Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots, and Raiders to name just a few. They may have trouble getting west coast teams to travel but they'll probably play in Mexico anyway.

[@s3rg10arg6]

Soccer is so fun, simple and beautiful that anyone can play it, you only need a ball, you can even play alone by juggling or against a wall, the limit is set by yourself.

[@gabsnandes7818]

The thing with football vs american football is that regular football is way more acessible, with a ball (who im i kidding a can is more than enough )and some random place in the street that gets chosen as the goal, and you are pretty much set, american football has more rules, and you need more to play

[@rich7447]

We used to play American Football in the school yard during recess in Canada and all we had was a ball. When you are a kid playing an unorganized game you aren't playing the full set of rules anyway.

[@MrDailyvid]

Well, Europeans don't want to watch a commercial every 40 seconds.

[@ramtinabadi]

The problem was not just operational, branding, or the elephant. People just really love Football (soccer) and outside the US, I have never personally seen a single person who like the American Football

[@juanbeltran7266]

10 years ago I was big into watching college American football on Saturdays after I would watch some European football, usually Serie A or La Liga since that's what my cable provider gave me.I hated watching the NFL though. Too many commercials and it would take them for ever just to start a play. Meanwhile in college football they rarely had commercials and they would get back to playing as soon as a play happened.

[@zidannemaulana1537]

Even Rugby is more popular than American Football in European country

[@emosijougavule2561]

True, countries like France, England, Ireland, Scotland, Spain. Its like their second biggest sport after football⚽️. Some Europe countries, it is their traditional national sport such as Wales, Georgia, Scotland and some others. It is growing as you see new nations qualified to join the Rugby World Cup 2023 in September like Romania, Portugal. I don't think NFL will grow rapidly in the Southern Hemisphere as there are many countries that take Rugby as their religion, especially countries that have warrior cultures.

[@dylanparker130]

Love AI videos! It's a crazy sport though, isn't it? I've always seen it as "Rugby with protective pads", but those pads seem to make it more dangerous than rugby as the American Football players aren't so careful about how they tackle each other. Because rugby players don't wear pads, everyone is more conscious that they need to stay away from the head / neck when tackling.

[@ronkihini]

Bruh, when I discovered this sport 2 years ago, I was impressed that rugby was evolving in other countries due to the fact that they were putting on Helmets and protective padding, just to be told (by the internet) that it isn't rugby, but another sport called American football. 😳 🤭

[@imnotlazy]

@@ronkihini 😭😭

[@emosijougavule2561]

@@ronkihini Same here when I was a kid. Whenever I watched it on movies, I've called it rugby till my dad clarify me.

[@bjorncopperside4572]

because they wear all the armor they hit way harder, wich is more fun to watch imo

[@yoyo-xt1dy]

We wear pads because if you don't you could literally die

[@BiteMe19781]

for europeans if we wanted to see a sport like NFL we would watch rugby with teams that are more culturally closer to us.

[@gxguy2906]

The only way the NFL makes that much money is mainly because of the commercials. If Soccer has that many commercials like that they would be making 2x or 5x what the NFL is making. I really hope that doesn't happen. Soccer is the only true sport left without much stoppage time.

[@hollandvw4250]

I don't see US football gaining enough popularity in Europe to compete with other popular and established team sports (basketball, handball, rugby in the British Isles and France, volleyball etc), let alone association football. They can gain a solid fanbase over here, but the cultural differences are too large. Same way soccer will probably never grow huge in the US too Moreover, the biggest disadvantage that US football has compared to association football, rugby or basketball is that it is an expensive sport to play (having to buy all the equipment etc) meaning it is very hard for small teams to exist and for potential new players to be able to play as professional athletes. The exact contrary of soccer whose strength always was and still is its accessibility and its deep rooting in working-class communities and small clubs. The concept of "franchises" doesn't even exist in that sport.

[@OzzyTheGiant]

I think soccer will eventually get a huge traction in the US simply because of the fact that immigrant populations are starting to overtake the country, and therefore are willing to watch more soccer than anything.

[@rezarfar]

Soccer is becoming huge in the USA, particularly with the younger generation, even American sports analysts are predicting Soccer to overtake the NFL within 20 years, when the current generation of 20-30 year olds will be 40-50.

[@DAAllan82]

The biggest problem the NFL has is that it’s the most complicated sport on the planet. To really become popular they need people in other countries to play the sport, but it’s extremely expensive and difficult to learn.

[@epicow_1973]

Complicated is fun. People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few. Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game. It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport. It's fine if you don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.