Why are Designer Products SO Expensive?

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Does the higher price tag on designer goods actually translate to higher quality products? Why are people willing to spend so much money on luxury items in the first place? Here’s what we found out.
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@tobybartlett
@tobybartlett Жыл бұрын
This video highlights exactly why I have my clothes made for me rather than shopping at luxury clothing stores. I’m in a very, very fortunate position to be able to do this, and I appreciate that I can. I just don’t understand why other people who spend far more than I do on clothes don’t do this! I send my tailor photos of things I like for a few months. Then I go in, sit down with him, and we design 75% of my wardrobe (I do buy some things he can’t make, like specific knitwear and winter sport clothes etc.) Yes it’s expensive, but it’s WAY cheaper than luxury clothing store prices. Having clothes made from scratch is also creative, fun and makes them unique. I took in a pair of grey jeans I didn’t wear anymore and the legs became the sleeves of a blazer my tailor made for me. You don’t get that kind of creativity or customization at Hermès or Armani unless you’re one of their billionaire customers (which I’m not). There is absolutely no way I could be convinced to spend the obscene amounts of money people do for luxury off-the-rack clothes. I’d rather know the family that makes mine, be part of the design process, support a family business and have pieces that survive years and years (and many dry cleanings) and can be rejigged into something new when I’m bored of them. ✌️ (Also I don’t understand why people have forgotten that the logo goes on the inside of the garment, not the outside. It’s in such poor taste.)
@Rathbone_fan_account
@Rathbone_fan_account Жыл бұрын
A rare case of a wealthy person with both taste and social awareness. If I ever get rich, this is how I will upgrade upon my wardrobe.
@JoseMendoza-hz3bu
@JoseMendoza-hz3bu Жыл бұрын
Can I ask how you were able to find a tailor to do this what to look for when looking for one. I’m in a similar position where I too have the income for only problem is I can’t find much info on how to get started or any experience from people in the same position. Right now I’m just sticking to basic garments but most are from target or fast fashion brands as I dont feel it’s necessary to spend that much on big luxury brands I went through that faze already only to realize it’s useless. I’ve only had one good experience with a shirt I bought like 2 years ago and it still looks great due to the quality being amazing. But other than that the other garments were pretty much pathetic. My questions from your experience would probably be how do I find a tailor to do this are they specific or do I just pop in a mom and dad shop and telll them I have a project in mind and if they can make it ? Also do you source your materials form a department store store from Joans or do you go looking for them somewhere specific. I have a project in mind recently where I want to make a pair of slevedge jeans. How would I go ahead and start that project
@CandleAshes
@CandleAshes Жыл бұрын
I've found it difficult to find a tailor with such great capabilities. I have a few vintage dresses I'd like to have re-made, but I don't know who to trust with them
@acmulhern
@acmulhern Жыл бұрын
This is the exact reason I learned to sew. I can make the clothes how I like them and fix them and change them into other things. I don't buy fabric as that's a whole other can of worms environmentally and socially, but people give me old curtains and bedsheets and I've made many things out of those, as well as second-hand clothes. And as you said, the result is so unique and fun.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
id love if tailored clothes became the norm again tbh ❤ you really living your best life Toby
@Josev-TV
@Josev-TV Жыл бұрын
As someone who is a fan of this channel and a few luxury brands, I think the explanation here is surface level. Not all luxury brands have let go of craftsmanship and paying low wages in Italy to adults is very different from paying low wages in Bangladesh to kids. You have Channel who is pretty much fast fashion and you have Dior who still making handmade clothes.
@Nicholas-V
@Nicholas-V Жыл бұрын
I agree, I've found Lacoste actually has pretty good quality for the price. Watches is another rabbit hole, you do get pretty high quality from the likes of Omega and Rolex but there are diminishing returns. I've recently been buying from small independent brands where everything is still mostly hand made. Also if I can get made in Japan, the cost is higher but it's worth it.
@done-damned
@done-damned Жыл бұрын
Come on. They have chinese sweatshops in Milan just for the sake of the made in italy tag 😢
@Nicholas-V
@Nicholas-V Жыл бұрын
@@elinat2414 I also prefer to get more bespoke made things and support the people who are making things with high quality materials and quality construction. Although many people would consider that luxury since in their mind you can get the same thing for much less. Also, think brands the channel loves do much like Patagonia and Arc'teryx have also turned into fashion brands.
@geroni211
@geroni211 Жыл бұрын
@@Nicholas-V But Future Proof has and still criticizes those brands for becoming more fast fashion oriented
@Nicholas-V
@Nicholas-V Жыл бұрын
@@geroni211 like most things, it's not black and white.
@idraote
@idraote Жыл бұрын
I'm Italian and therefore I feel deeply involved as half of all those luxury brands are indeed Italian. Or were. WERE. Because right now they all belong to a handful of gray corporations that don't mean anything anymore and you know what? Even if I were a billionnaire with not a care in the world, I wouldn't buy that sh*t anymore. Buying an Armani, a Valentino, a Prada fifty years ago meant buying the effort of real geniuses. Now it means you're flexing to your peers by wearing a nondescript item produced by who knows whom and sold at a price that it is no longer indicative of real quality and creativity. If I were dirty rich, I would find myself a couple of talented tailors I can trust and I'd have them creating bespoke clothing for me.
@usainengland
@usainengland Жыл бұрын
You are so right! Either a handmade or vintage secondhand item is the way to go. By the way, I love Italy and won’t hold Gucci against you. Can’t wait to visit Italia again. Ciao!
@Rathbone_fan_account
@Rathbone_fan_account Жыл бұрын
Preach. I fucking hate how those genuine, high quality, classy European family brands became synonymous with mumble rap, vanity and corpo culture.
@katrinauchitel
@katrinauchitel Жыл бұрын
Very right, I completely agree. Good to know there’s good people in the world who think like you do!
@jauipop
@jauipop Жыл бұрын
One correction: Hermes is actually the last fashion house that actually still focuses on small quantities and craftsmanship - especially for their leather goods.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
So we have been told! Shouldn’t have lumped them in with the others, ours mistake there!
@nBasedAce
@nBasedAce Жыл бұрын
@@FutureProofTV You make a lot of mistakes and assumptions which is why I can't be confident in the information given by your channel.
@zekeyeager1458
@zekeyeager1458 Жыл бұрын
@@FutureProofTValso, please don’t pronounce Hermès like you’re trying to say herpes. It doesn’t sound right
@bejaouimobtagha1372
@bejaouimobtagha1372 Жыл бұрын
To be able to make a birkin bag you have to actually learn the process at Hermes. It's like getting a degree in making Brikins. It's very different.
@jauipop
@jauipop Жыл бұрын
@@bejaouimobtagha1372 maybe for most, but not all. I highly doubt my country's corrupt ex PM's wife who had so many Birkins actually bothered to learn the process.
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
I was a piercer for 17 years, unfortunately piercing got overtaken by fast fashion 20 years ago, the jewelry that is actually safe to wear boils down to 10 manufacturers, mostly because of hot topic. Body jewelry should meet medical implant standards, surgical steel don't mean safe, it just means it's high polish, implant grade is what everyone should be wearing, I quit piercing because I got frustrated explaining it to tattoo artist shop owners. But if it ain't implant grade, you are likely to eventually encounter contact dermatitis.
@tydshiin5783
@tydshiin5783 Жыл бұрын
Yea, you better go titanium or just don't
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
@@tydshiin5783 niobium is also pretty inert and works well for people that react to the vanadium or aluminum in astm 136 titanium
@ldmtag
@ldmtag Жыл бұрын
Is contact dermatitis that bad it's justified to pay higher price to avoid it? Can't one just endure a little pain in the belly button?
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
@@ldmtag definitely worth investing an extra $50 in better jewelry, piercings are puncture wounds, the development of a healthy fistula (the tunnel of tissue inside of a piercing) you don't want a bad polish or toxic metals leeching into an open wound.
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
316L Surgical steel is good for tools and cookware, that is about it.
@Sweetwaterdream
@Sweetwaterdream Жыл бұрын
It always fascinates me when i walk past their stores…there are like two customers inside a huge store but there is line waiting to get in and two bouncers 😂. Definitely milking the illusion of exclusivity rather than quality.
@vipeton.8927
@vipeton.8927 Жыл бұрын
Money laundering.
@dinimakhmudov1674
@dinimakhmudov1674 Жыл бұрын
That’s not an illusion at all; it’s about customer service and privacy for those people. Yes, one customer can even ask for the store to be closed for an extended period of time, so that he or she can have all the employees at his or her feet. If that customer happily spends 100k+ at the end, then why not?
@KissesFromCanada
@KissesFromCanada Жыл бұрын
I happen to own a few designer things which I bought 12 years ago in a ‘gold collar’ period. The shoes are still perfect. The bags have all held up well. The designer wool goods are so well made they will last for generations. I can no longer afford ‘slow fashion’, but if you are buying for quality (not just some logo), the cost actually seems equitable. Now, I can’t afford to buy quality…but I would if I could.
@KingChaddi
@KingChaddi Жыл бұрын
What brands are the best quality in your opinion
@Mhe620GO1
@Mhe620GO1 Жыл бұрын
My cousin makes Hermes bags and this is why they are so expensive : She had to train for months just to work on single pieces of a bag. When she mastered that she was able to train for few months to make a whole bag by herself. Last year she got to train especially for the Birkin and now she's a "specialist" of this range. She can work any piece with any material and each piece has to be sewn a specific way. A bag can only go to the stores if it's perfectly made, one tiny error and it goes back to manufacturing to be done all over again. Also each bag has the reference of the maker which is why the people who make it have to work flawlessly, because it can traced back to them. And you can add to the cost the type of skin you want to get. And of course the brand itself. But as far as Hermes is concerned, the craftsmanship is incredible and Hermes makes a point to sell flawless items.
@NatalyF17
@NatalyF17 Жыл бұрын
Wow so interesting & yes i agree!
@sarvinyari6622
@sarvinyari6622 Жыл бұрын
Are they payed well? And do they pay for their training in the beginning??
@Mhe620GO1
@Mhe620GO1 Жыл бұрын
@@sarvinyari6622 yes they are paid really well and they're paid extra depending on the volume they make/month. Hermes knows the waiting list is super long so they encourage the workers to work extra or faster. So if you're willing to do more hours and on top of that you work fast you earn very well. My cousin was trained in-house and she did not pay for it.
@Mhe620GO1
@Mhe620GO1 Жыл бұрын
@@NatalyF17 yes it's a nice job actually, before getting into it she didn't know what to do with her life and it taught her that she could build, make something from scratch and she's really into craftsmanship and appreciate anything done well. I guess it teaches you excellence in a way, it makes you careful about how you do things. Hope my English was clear.
@TheTazmaniyak
@TheTazmaniyak Жыл бұрын
Some years ago I went to an Hermes exhibition in Thailand where a bunch of the artisans and crafts-people showed you how things were made, how materials were selected and some of the machinery they used. I get the feeling that some brands, particularly Hermes, are more dedicated to high levels of craftsmanship. That said, many of these companies NEED the faster elements of fashion (ready to wear, perfumes, homewares) to keep the company profitable and for the brand to continue to be desirable. Its a shame that so many of these beautiful Italian and French brands have been degraded to the cheap influencer and the dirty-money set which means if you are really discerning, you probably shop elsewhere or buy products that have the brand name INSIDE!
@Apero1Spritz
@Apero1Spritz Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that Levi did not mention the multiple, insane price increases of most designer brands throughout the past three years during the pandemic.
@cdeaker
@cdeaker Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was looking at a Ralph Lauren polo shirt: over the last 3 years in the UK, the price is now crazy
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
We must have missed that! Thanks for mentioning it 🙏🏻👍🏻
@sophiaisabelle01
@sophiaisabelle01 Жыл бұрын
Designer brands are expensive, and that's a universally accepted fact. That's why people take out a huge loan to be able to afford them.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth 👀👀
@tobybartlett
@tobybartlett Жыл бұрын
It’s bonkers that people go into debt to look like billboards. If Gucci wants to put a logo on my chest, that shirt had better be free-and I want to be paid $5k/week to wear it.
@tobybartlett
@tobybartlett Жыл бұрын
@@cat-le1hf 🙌
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
many wealthy people are paying less for what you would think of as an expensive item compared to how much they actually own. if you consider it i percentage terms, you buying a $90 bag is way more of the percentage of your bank balance and a millionaire spending $4000 on a bag
@fearless6947
@fearless6947 Жыл бұрын
yeah, they like to pretend to be rich. People know they don't have money anyway
@mizushirokanon9174
@mizushirokanon9174 Жыл бұрын
There is one more factor, that often excluded from conversation about luxury brands: marketing(extravagant runways, celebrity models with ridiculously high wages, classic advertising) and celebrity designers. Why noone even mentions this?
@tobybartlett
@tobybartlett Жыл бұрын
The marketing budgets of luxury fashion houses is INSANE. That’s why so many are under one big gigantic corporate umbrella, like LVMH. If one of their brands doesn’t hit at fashion week, usually four others will, so it evens out the risk for expensive marketing campaigns.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
I mean that's definitely true though... maybe a bit predictable but I guess it falls under the "swag tax" column. Thanks for this comment!
@FrOsTyBeArKiD
@FrOsTyBeArKiD Жыл бұрын
Accurate. Who do you think is paying for all this marketing?! Ahem. We are.
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
@@FrOsTyBeArKiDit actually works the other way too. the high price point means they have more cash flow and can afford more marketing. it’s circular, not linear. and marketing works, so why not do more of it.
@Quarousel
@Quarousel Жыл бұрын
I am French, and your way of pronouncing the Arnaults and the Pinaults is priceless! thank you for that 😂
@jordonisawesome
@jordonisawesome Жыл бұрын
And Hermès lol.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
For a guy who speaks french fluently I feel like Levi could have done better with that one lol
@CiarnaK
@CiarnaK Жыл бұрын
Hermès is its own kettle of fish. It's that ridiculously expensive because they decided that would be the basis of their brand (a Birkin is easier to carry than a private island and classier than a flashing neon sign reading "MY ACCOUNTANT IS BETTER AT TAX EVASION THAN YOURS"). Reading about how Sex and the City created our modern understanding of luxury goods and the original Gossip Girl curated that relationship was fascinating and helpful as to why the brands are nearly unavoidable at this point.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Wish more rich people had those neon signs on them not gonna lie, you're super right. These brands are unanimous with people signaling that they have money, not necessarily quality or durability or anything else. Thanks for sharing here, Carina!
@servnava6601
@servnava6601 Жыл бұрын
Found an Hermes tie in a goodwill bin and lemme tell you, that's the best ugly tie I own.
@lauravanimpe3173
@lauravanimpe3173 6 ай бұрын
If you "like" Hermès you should watch the video Gittemary Johansen did on them. She's a zero waste vlogger and her piece on them was excellent.
@adamz7368
@adamz7368 Жыл бұрын
One of the points that I'd say was missed is also because as you said, it's buying "fashion" from the source. So it's like paying for the research and time spent on trying to find what will be "fashionable". It's paying for the research that leads to the items they make. Now is that actually worth the money? That's for the buyers to decide
@alexprach
@alexprach Жыл бұрын
It's also paying marketing teams to put them on the right celebrities and tv shows and movies and adverts and sponsoring events in order to be considered fashionable. Like how Apple MacBooks cannot be used by villains in movies/tv shows. Money is also used to pay for the most expensive retail stores in terms of rent and looks. And they often stay fashionable by buying out the competition, so there is also that overhead which I guess is part of research, why pay for a patent (and give them exposure) when it's cheaper to buy the entire company. The problem is as a company becomes larger and larger they often have money they don't know what to do with so they become inefficient, but that's not always a bad thing as efficiency is what lead to chinese manufacturing for the world due to lower costs and now also due to better engineers as skills have become depreciated in the countries that were once the manufacturers of the past.
@Beanna_
@Beanna_ Жыл бұрын
The Birkin Bag "waiting list" is exactly the same as the Rolex "waiting list". Scummy authorized dealers have the watch you're looking to purchase in their safe right now, along with 20 others of the same model, but they're not going to sell one to you until you've become a regular customer of their store and dropped a dozen grands in other watches you were never interested in to increase their margin. Yet some people still buy into this bs behaviour because they want to earn the priviledge of wearing "the flex". Or is the flex actually wearing you?
@royywj
@royywj Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Because buying a Rolex at retail price is as good as getting free money. Imagine, anyone that walks in and tells a story that "I am a genuine watch collector and enthusiast, I will never sell the watch" and just buys a Daytona with no purchase history and walks out of the store, and goes to a grey market dealer and flip it? Yes, it can be irritating for real genuine buyers who wants a Rolex to wear it, just one... But on the other hand, the Authorized Dealer cannot be seen selling watches to flippers, either. ADs have to filter out the genuine buyers to the flippers. So one has to build relationships with purchase history to actually get one. If anyone could have walked in and buy any Rolex, i would have quit my job, walk in any max my credit cards and buy every single Daytonas and GMT Masters and just flip it, I can easily earn a month's salary in less than a day. I can even do this full time and buy all the Patek Phillippe And AP Royal Oak and just flip it for a profit. My Credit Cards will rack enough points to get free airline travel too, and banks will be very happy with my "huge spending". So i do not see anything wrong with this pratice. Of course, there are indeed scummy ADs that plays out their customers.. Making them to buy other watches that "loses money" and "promises to allocate a Rolex" but fails to do so because... Those are the worst.
@AndreUtrecht
@AndreUtrecht Жыл бұрын
And Rolex isn't worth it... in the 1980's it was already a boring watch... and it still is...
@jacobbwalters8133
@jacobbwalters8133 Жыл бұрын
It is worth distinguishing between designer haute couture and designer ready to wear. Haute couture truly does live up to all the standards you are talking about. The pieces are made to order for each individual person, often implement intricate techniques like hand beading and embroidery, and uses only the finest fabrics, leathers, and furs. The pieces are generally assembled by highly skilled artisans (sometimes even the designers themselves) paid healthy wages. These pieces are ultra expensive, ultra exclusive, and made in very low quantities. Designer ready to wear, however, is all over the map on quality, construction, and worker wages. The piece could be high quality, well made, and put together by well compensated sewers or it could be a basic t-shirt with a logo slapped on in a sweatshop. Most designer brands have both a haute couture line (to maintain the prestige and mystique of the brand) and a ready to wear line (to take in the dough).
@marthahawkinson-michau9611
@marthahawkinson-michau9611 Жыл бұрын
Personally I am willing to spend a bit more on an item if it is very good quality. I want durable items that hold up well and serve me for a very long time. I don’t like having to replace garments that I love because they fell apart too easily. In particular, I will definitely spend more on bras and shoes. I spend more on bras because only a few companies even make my size, therefore I have to pay more for the scarcity. They do make nice quality products that last longer than cheap bras, and I do at least feel like I get my money’s worth from them. I am also willing to spend more on quality shoes, especially for good work shoes. I’m a bit heavy, and I need a strong, supportive work shoe for long days at work. The right shoe makes the difference between my feet being a little tired at the end of the shift and me fantasizing about cutting my feet off because I’m in literal agony. Trust me. The right shoe can be totally worth it.
@zabmcauley5647
@zabmcauley5647 Жыл бұрын
I'm frugal and I try to avoid buying cheaply made things. Shoes I generally spend $200-300 because that's how much well made footwear costs. More than that you are paying more for a name, fancy features or to get shoes custom made(whether out of want or necessity).
@hpnut4ever
@hpnut4ever Жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of Hermès made me think of the clip from Princess Diaries when Mia asks why she's using a scarf as a training tool, and Queen Clarice replies, "It's pronounced 'Ehrmehz'."
@latristessdurera8763
@latristessdurera8763 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy buying clothes but I’ve started to morph into my dad. now research the brands, examine stitching and I always read the label. 🤓
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your dad knows what he's doing 🤘
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 Жыл бұрын
You can buy a suit for $1,000 with a full canvas which, if you take care of it, could last a lifetime. You can also buy jeans for $1,200 with a designer label on them which will last the same as any other pair.
@aBirdAndHisBoy
@aBirdAndHisBoy Жыл бұрын
Hermès bags are double hand-stitched in France and take 20-25 HOURS to construct. The cost of labor & materials is then marked up for retail. Birkins and Kelly's are then marked up on second market due to scarcity. Himalayan Birkins retail for $70-90K, not $300K. $300K is the auction price for Himalayas.
@aisling7244
@aisling7244 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, kind of wild that he would specifically highlight the Birkin and then allege that it’s made exactly the same as a Shein purse. I’m not telling ANYONE that they should spend $10,000 on a handbag, and it is true that the a lot of designer clothing is cheaply stitched together polyester now, but Birkin bags still famously require significant craftsmanship from skilled craftsman.
@katarinajanoskova
@katarinajanoskova Жыл бұрын
@@aisling7244 The point is, that if you want a good quality product, don't buy the 'high fashion', yes, some may employ real people with real skills, but not as much as people would like to believe. Don't buy from Shein either as you will need a new item in no time. If you can at all afford it, go to small shops who will make you an item that is 100 times better than the luxury brand one and 100 times cheaper. Check out this guy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX-rh6akm6Z2iK8&ab_channel=TannerLeatherstein
@nathlete87
@nathlete87 Жыл бұрын
That’s something I don’t like about these types of videos. Yes, it’s an obscene amount of money, but if you’re into luxury you know off the bat a Birkin’s starting cost is not $300k, very misleading. I’ll probably never afford Hermés, but I love my luxury pieces that I do have and the quality is definitely heads above that of brands I bought when I was younger, like Kate Spade.
@aBirdAndHisBoy
@aBirdAndHisBoy Жыл бұрын
@@aisling7244 Exactly! Hermès is truly the only luxury brand that can justify their prices due to double hand stitching their bags.
@cs8712
@cs8712 Жыл бұрын
Imagine paying 300K for something to put your keys inside of
@xervoo6419
@xervoo6419 Жыл бұрын
For European customers I’d also recommend Asket. They have a clear environmental focus, and are really successful when it comes to some of their items, having both the raw material and all of the construction occur in Europe (albeit at different places, meaning shipping back and forth). Others aren’t as great, but still better than the average fast fashion brand. Especially love their wool items and linen shirts. Haven’t ever ran any discounts and are pretty unapologetic about being expensive: completely transparent about the costs of producing, and what their markup is.
@TotalTrigger
@TotalTrigger Жыл бұрын
@@nicoleheron I think you’re mixing Asket up with Arket!
@Thrark
@Thrark Жыл бұрын
Not luxury but definitely a cool brand in the premium segment!
@xervoo6419
@xervoo6419 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrark Yeah, not in the luxury segment, but I figure most wouldn't want that anyway. Sort of fits pretty well with the organicbasics recommendation from the video, so figured I'd mention it :)
@cdeaker
@cdeaker Жыл бұрын
I bought a leather wallet by Mulberry in 1997 for £57 & about 11 years later the same wallet was over £200. What happened in that time? The CEO of Mulberry was replaced by the former the head of Hermes in 2012, Bruno Guillon - he hiked the prices
@acmulhern
@acmulhern Жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine works for the UN, in the department that investigates fair working conditions and she told me that H&M was one of the better mainstream companies, which really isn't a flex. Just like McDonald's they had come under fire due to the sheer size of their company, so they had to make sure to be OK. She said Kering and LVMH were really problematic and it was largely due to a lack of public scrutiny.
@tony_5156
@tony_5156 8 ай бұрын
UN is the antichrist
@sandraaguayocastillo4680
@sandraaguayocastillo4680 8 ай бұрын
In where I live, some employees for H&M went for a strike, they were underpaid, their salaries were under the mimimun SMI (salario mínimo interprofesional) in Spain, they went for moths until they came to an agreement of rise of their salaries.
@KingUnKaged
@KingUnKaged Жыл бұрын
The way you pronounce every consonant in those family names makes me think you dropped French in grade 10 like it was a block of lead, lol.
@VaticDart
@VaticDart Жыл бұрын
A $3k shirt is never going to be 100 times better than a $30 shirt, as even with quality items that are outside mainstream luxury considerations, there’s always a law of diminishing returns. But you still expect it be better made from better materials with better labor standards, etc… Most items have a sweet spot that will depend on the person buying and the item, but as an example, with button up shirts marketed to men, for me, it’s around $150 - 200 USD. That’s still a lot of money if you’re used to paying $40 at Gap, but if you’re buying a shirt from a small designer for $200, it may very well be 5 times better. But beyond that subjective sweet spot, you get into the land diminishing returns and you’re just paying for status.
@Asoftenkameshee
@Asoftenkameshee Жыл бұрын
luxury brands feed on the fact that people won't admit to themselves that they are trying to impress people they don't like or even know.
@adriancarlpescador2587
@adriancarlpescador2587 Жыл бұрын
Thrifting old designer clothes is my jam. The vintage stuff especially is usually better quality (made of nicer fabrics/materials and made to last). ETA: it’s “ERR-MEZZ” haha. Pronunciation unlocked a memory of a wealthy college classmate sneering at me when I pronounced it like we do the Greek god. Also, I think the 300K Birkin is the most expensive (so far) and only offered to VVIP clients. Most other Birkins are in the 5-digit price range last I checked. Also also, not sure how true it still is but at least for the Kelly and the Birkin, they are supposedly handmade by just a few artisans. Also also also, wish you tackled haute couture, which, if the clothes weren’t flown back and forth from atelier to client, are still made ethically while preserving craftsmanship skills passed down generations and innovating fabrics/materials/methods of constructoon.
@Shordy9.09
@Shordy9.09 Жыл бұрын
Ok i love fashion and there’s a difference between the people that love fashion, the people that wanna look cool and random wealthy people that buy it for status. People that partake in fashion don’t care for price maybe exclusivity but not price, its more of the art and cuts and just how different the clothes are if you buy a random pair of Levi’s you aren’t gonna get a particular look. The way i dress you could say i like to incorporate fictional story telling like in my outfits and that’s something that the more complex and unique garments give me diferente shapes cuts and sizes ill pay 500 for a jacket or if i find one randomly or by digging around for a look in particular find a cheaper one ill get it but the same way two people will never be the same to garments will never be the same. The more ready to wear logo pieces are there to fund the main lines of clothing and take money from wealthy people that just want to have expensive stuff, the reason people that like fashion pay such obscene prices for things is because of story telling and the fact that nothing you could buy would give you a similar look and coming from someone that makes clothes the amount of time and experiment it takes to come up with these cuts and ideas not to mención money from textiles making it oneself is way to difficult and time consuming for the consumer also takes away the story telling aspect. People that buy fakes fall in to the just wanna look cool camp they want the look of the logos and expensive yet basic pieces that in the fashion houses eyes are just cash grabs to make Better things with. Factory’s don’t make the more complex pieces cause that doesn’t sell to the general public but fake buyers will buy some screen print tee that cost 500 to get a flex but pay 10$ fake buyers and wealthy people that buy random stuff do the same thing the difference is one was the resources to buy real random medium to low quality expensive stuff and the other wants hype exclusive things for the low to look cool. nether do it for passion or interest they just wanna look like what they think is cool. Sorry for writing allat prolly fina make a video on this
@burgersuperking
@burgersuperking 7 ай бұрын
yeah, you get it, people who never tried head-to-toe designer looks never experience this crazy fashion magic, and how mind bending it is. It's so expensive because of the amount of R&D which goes to create, tweak and manufacture those almost magical items that morph your body. The whole shit is just pure textile coke, JayZ was right about TOM FORD, one you try it its hard to go back, and you WILL find money to get new stuff.
@CaffeineForCode
@CaffeineForCode Жыл бұрын
Great video! Would've been interesting to talk about how different generations (Gen X, Millennials, etc.) perceive luxury items. I think Gen X as a whole cares a lot more about status (brand name, luxury stuff) than millennials
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
That's super interesting, we might have to make a part 2 or Short on the subject. Assuming so much of that has to do with the economy and general social awareness around these things...
@angieemm
@angieemm Жыл бұрын
I disagree. We're the generation who wore ratty flannels from thrift stores and combat boots from the military surplus. The Yuppies of the time, however, probably fit into the category you describe.
@latristessdurera8763
@latristessdurera8763 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, from what I’ve read it’s a fight between millennials and GenZ with a push from these younger generations coming out of China.
@subtlefeatures1087
@subtlefeatures1087 Жыл бұрын
Spot on gen z couldn’t give 2 sh!ts
@Rathbone_fan_account
@Rathbone_fan_account Жыл бұрын
@@angieemm Word up, I definitely wouldn't put you gen Xers in a one basket. Imo, in terms of brand slavery it only gets worse the younger you get in generations.
@julieh1880
@julieh1880 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! It feels like nowadays high fashion brands have "entry level" slap a logo/ do a trendy collab to appeal to people into fast fashion and bring them to try the brand... Even if it is not a justifiable price. Also that's the wrong Louis portrait, it's the grandfather of the one who got shiiiing :D
@Tharrel
@Tharrel Жыл бұрын
Could you do a guide, how to buy responsibly? It's hard to find good, long-lasting clothes, from ethical companies, especially if you can't spend 150 dollars for a T-shirt.
@latenbargestin5918
@latenbargestin5918 Жыл бұрын
invest in buying vintage. its ethical, made to last, and very stylish
@madeliner1682
@madeliner1682 Жыл бұрын
buy ethical fabric and make your own clothes
@Tharrel
@Tharrel Жыл бұрын
@@latenbargestin5918 what is vintage, actually? Most second hand shops in my area sell used H&M. It’s not realistic for people to buy 50 year old clothes
@Tharrel
@Tharrel Жыл бұрын
@@madeliner1682 I work a full time job and study, as well. I’m not going to learn how to saw and buy a sawing machine, so I can get a pair of jeans…
@madeliner1682
@madeliner1682 Жыл бұрын
@@Tharrel fair enough. I have school and a job as well, but I'm also autistic and have an abnormally high drive to do random shit the caveman way. It is not reasonable to expect people who are not me to act like me. Not gonna lie, I've been seriously considering weaving my own fabric with my own handspun yarn and then hand sewing a shirt here recently. The only reason I'm not growing my own cotton or raising my own fiber animal is that I don't have a yard lmao
@SkipperJane
@SkipperJane Жыл бұрын
Regarding the competition for luxury brands, I actually think the greater competition is - at least for people looking for quality - is coming from places like Etsy and indie shops where you can buy an expensive (but comparatively reasonably priced) product that is actually well-manufactured but does not include the label flex. I’d also much rather spend money on high-quality vintage than on mid-priced fast fashion.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Super true, there's definitely a big market for handcrafted quality goods without all the luxury branding. The greatest part is, if you buy these items from local artisans, you contribute to your local economy and still end up spending less than if you'd paid attention to the high end stuff. Thanks for taking the time to share here!
@4zdr456
@4zdr456 Жыл бұрын
Also Pinterest is full of those clothes. Of course most of them are edgy as heck, but you can find some tasteful ones as well.
@hegteo
@hegteo Жыл бұрын
4:04 “now maybe I don’t have biggest appreciation for this stuff…” This..”stuff”? *Miranda Preastly death stare* 😂
@kendelion
@kendelion Жыл бұрын
I was cross shopping between a 100usd vs a 20usd shirt. Bought them both and used them at the same pace. Both got worn out the same speed and amount so I'm buying the 20usd one 5 more times then
@kewoncrayton2309
@kewoncrayton2309 Жыл бұрын
Because they are a visual representation of the difference between the haves and have nots. It’s most apparent in jewelry - a Cartier bangle without the “Cartier” mark is worth 90% less. Louis Vuitton is charging $2,000 for coated canvas. Chanel raises prices constantly. I could go on.
@-ijudg3u-692
@-ijudg3u-692 Жыл бұрын
A lot of what you said is mainly true for streetwear parts of these brands. If you look at items that actually take time to create it is a different story. Suits, leather jackets etc
@lol007
@lol007 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the experience in such shops. They are not crowded, they have limited offers and you get a personal staff to bring you what you are looking for while you drink coffee and the changing room is already prepared for you. I pay for quality and shopping experience because I get huge headache shopping in Zara through floors of different cloth, with huge waiting lines to changing room and searching for the staff for minutes to ask about size or something. Also not everything is that expensive in thous shops, I got great shoes for 200€ which I wear to work daily for 5 years now.
@Acemans
@Acemans Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was younger I really wanted a pair of Gucci horsebit loafers, the classic ones not the newer jordaan ones. I've been disappointed because I found out that they reduced the quality on them so much that they're not even worth getting. Similar story with Burberry and their coats, quality of their newer coats are kinda rubbish now.
@Pugs365
@Pugs365 Жыл бұрын
I buy designer items at Goodwill and other places for next to nothing. It's not the name or just the quality, I like the look of what I'm buying. Also, I'll tell anyone what I paid because I don't give a crap about what anyone thinks.
@porsche180
@porsche180 Жыл бұрын
When he said Hermes like that I actually choked
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
You can't even carry a Louis Vuitton or a Gucci in SF or on the Peninsula. It's a kiss of death. You're gonna be attacked and robbed in a heartbeat.
@dr.kawasaki7380
@dr.kawasaki7380 Жыл бұрын
London Gang, London Gang, London Gang, London Gang you keep it out, and you''ll receive no future blanks
@A-Wa
@A-Wa Жыл бұрын
I clicked on the links in the description box and oh boy, a basic flannel shirt for 170€
@radfoo72
@radfoo72 Жыл бұрын
"I just wear what I bought 4 years ago." 😂 Can relate!
@estycki
@estycki Жыл бұрын
I had enough of wearing fast fashion and garbagey shoes 10 years ago and spent average $150 to $300 on a new pair. I still own those shoes after 10 years because they were made well, and the sole/heel could be replaced. My friends who were obsessed with fast fashion thought I was a snob for spending so much, but I think there’s a sweet spot for quality, no need to spend thousands per pair. I don’t own tons of shoes either, I’ve seen my friends’ closets where they have 100 pairs of bad shoes. A well made hand bag is nice to have as well but I don’t personally care about the name on the bag, as long as it’s built well, again not necessary to have too many or spend thousands per bag…
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
There's definitely a sweet spot for quality, especially when it comes to everyday items like shoes. Plenty of handcrafted and well-made items cost waaaay less than designer goods purely because they're not associated with the luxury labels. Thanks for your input here, really appreciate you adding to the conversation!
@TVTim86
@TVTim86 Жыл бұрын
I still remember my first day of university and one of my flat mates decided he wanted to show off his wardrobe to me. I'm standing there in some baggy skater gear which maybe cost about £100 in total, while he shows me his Armani and Versace clothes. I'm surprised he thought I'd find that impressive considering what I was wearing.
@rxdan
@rxdan Жыл бұрын
I would disagree that ppl who buy designer brands are just flexing. Sure some are but im sure a lot of people who like designer products for the abstract qualities such as of craftsmanship, aesthetic. The true cost of a bag is probably only 100 the extra 900 is for the unique design and the heritage of the brand. There’s a cap to the level high quality of any product, makers of them need to come up with other abstract ways to price them higher.
@fiveminutefridays
@fiveminutefridays Жыл бұрын
"luxury goods were seen as sinful" doesn't mean they weren't also seen as prestigious. The various laws against dressing "above your station" or condemnations of luxury goods is mostly proof that people were using those goods as status symbols regularly enough for the church to get annoyed at them (and also that being able to tell a person's status at a glance was important to people at that time and place)
@phenixnunlee372
@phenixnunlee372 Жыл бұрын
Birkin Bags do not cost $300k they cost that on resale. They cost in the 10's of thousands not cheap but not house level.
@iamnals
@iamnals Жыл бұрын
Hermès prounounced as Hermees was unexpected
@bonoki3870
@bonoki3870 Жыл бұрын
Levi, i thank you. this was the best one yet. looking forward to part 2 & iam going re-watch SHEIN.
@Luoshe
@Luoshe Жыл бұрын
some treat it like a sort of expensive hobby like gaming, motorcycle riding/buidling, cars, cosplay, etc. which are arguably pointless, but we get joy out of it anyway... (except for the birkin bag tax evasion argument, that's valid haha)
@flordeespinart
@flordeespinart Жыл бұрын
"'Ault' that is left" nailed it!
@ChristopherDraws
@ChristopherDraws Жыл бұрын
I'm an "old" millenial (born in 83) and from a UK perspective, I really think obtaining luxury brands as something regular people could aspire to - and a shift in quality - is a feature of the past 20 years. In my childhood, adults on television were more likely to say their clothes were from mail order catalogues or department stores - whereas in the past 20 years, it's seemed a point of embarassment for people with a public profile to not wear designer labels. The 90s was definitely the start of designer label aspiration (Calvin Klein and Armani stick out in this period, flogging their perfume and underwear) - but it was more mass-market manufacturers that really exemplify that period for me, such as Vans, Doc Marten, Adidas etc. The emergence of social media really changed things, because I'm aware of people who lived in messy, low quality London flat shares who would take photos posing with designer watches and clothing to appear as if they were living a luxury brand lifestyle, whilst their actual living circumstances were insecure and not always very safe.
@doriangray2001
@doriangray2001 Жыл бұрын
appreciate your channel, but as a high-end fashion enthusiast and someone who works in the field i have a few clarifications: 1) not all luxury brands are not sustainable, it really depends. hermes that you mentioned does pay people fair wages and only employs few people in france-in fact they have their own workshop. same for brunello cucinelli 2) a lot of italian brands are not owned by those groups eg prada 3) the point made about the real authentic trend isn't really true. a lot of these luxury brands will send their people to fashion school graduate shows and small brands fairs and will order from independent designers then proceed to copy and appropriate. this is perfectly legal as there is no copyright on fashion design. dietprada used to call out a lot of these things. 4) it's not really true that people who want to buy luxury fashion want to buy at full price at all costs. a lot of fashion enthusiasts will still want the iconic piece without the iconic price tag. i am one of those people. that's why people buy at outlets, during sale from reseller shops or second hand (you guys should research vestiaire collective). 5) also, it's not true that there aren't sales in the luxury fashion world. it's just that you rarely see 'sales' written on the shop windows and they reserve their sale to their customers or just for a few days, password protected/mailing list links only pages on their website, etc. there are brands who never put anything on sale in their flagship stores, but even most of those brands have outlet shops where you literally find the last season things half price or more. not to mention all resellers like selfridges who do have sales anyway and do sell some of the flagship store products. or the insider sale, like sample sale where pieces used in photoshoots or showrooms as sold marked down. there are literally a million ways to access luxury products without paying luxury prices. 6) you don't even take into account all the staff working at these shops or reseller shops who have up to 50% off the items in the shop and may even get substantial store credit to purchase outfits for working at the shop or will simply receive authentic items of the brand for them to wear on the job. or end of the season / sample sales that they have priority to access as a 'family sale' 7) another element that makes luxury items so expensive is also the fact that when you are a regular client of a boutique you will have a specific salesperson contact and they can prepare selections of items ready at the shop for you to try and other bespoke services that are very useful to busy and rich people.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! Honestly I think I (Levi) really did learn that the fashion world at the level that you're talking about is pretty incredible but sadly this new chapter of it seems to have gone down the toilet. I appreciate you taking the time to share a more "in the know" perspective 🙏🏻👍🏻
@raymondf3670
@raymondf3670 Жыл бұрын
Levi, you are 100% right it's all crazy ( but I'm about to put my foot in my month ). l love looking at the shows. Some of the clothing is amazing, the Kim Jones Winter Men's Dior 23-24 collection loved it . Can they do better? Yes, should they do better, yes, it should not be this crazy.
@notme123123
@notme123123 Жыл бұрын
I love how you combined “we all understand this game” with stock footage of Cricket, a game that I do not understand. :)
@brunonjezic6208
@brunonjezic6208 Жыл бұрын
Well you need to get in Japanice high/higher end stuff that is totally made by hand or old mashines that ask for a lot of hand work in it. Next to luxury houses of the west droping 2k on Clinch or White Klouds boots seems like a bargain
@miketrotman9720
@miketrotman9720 Жыл бұрын
Japan is different world of craft, Bruno. You're absolutely right! When people understand what goes into making a pair of White Kloud boots, not only will $2K (or $5K!) seem like a bargain, but that same $2K for a European designer brand, even Berlutti, will start to look like a ripoff.
@dfjulesful
@dfjulesful Жыл бұрын
Another sneaky thing designer brands do is that they have cheaper items specially made for places like TK MAXX (TJ MAXX if you're American). So that Calvin Klein/Ralph Lauren etc that you think you are getting fir a bargain is of significantly lesser quality then what they sell in their main lines of goods. It's like their fast fashion line really
@stikiking
@stikiking Жыл бұрын
Woops, that's not the right king Louis that you put in there. Here is Louis XIV instead of XVI
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
The only king I see here is Levi 👑 hahha no but seriously, thank you for letting us know!
@aisling7244
@aisling7244 Жыл бұрын
Who ironically had way better drip than his grandson and was still beloved. He’s *still* all over Paris.
@JozefEtienne
@JozefEtienne Жыл бұрын
Fan of your channel and having worked in the luxury industry for the past decade I have a lot of criticisms of the industry, some you even mentioned in your video. Overall I feel you missed the overside of the argument on what is supposed to make up “Luxury” beside materials. When you buy a luxury product you are also buying the brand. Luxury brands tend to have stores in the most wealthy area of major cities. This real estate is extraordinarily expensive. The architecture and design of the stores also tend to be a lot more expensive than say UNIQLO. Staff wages tend to be higher than fast fashion brands and advertising in comparison to conversion works out to be a lot more expensive than traditional retail and then add in Runway shows etc. All of this is part of the brand DNA and what makes it appealing to customers. As a business you have one way to recoup those cost of this and that’s Goods and Services. You’re paying for all of this. A lot of luxury brands still produce in Europe (predominately Italy & Portugal). I would say the majority of LVMH and Kering do, this is partly due to the stigma that comes with “Made in China/India” Etc. There are still definitely issues with pay with some brand but paying minimum in Portugal is very different to paying minimum in India. You’re also missing that the design process is very different to fast fashion. The creation process is far more intensive and costly. I remember reading of GAP complaining when they first started to work with Kanye on how long it took for his team to create anything and costly it was doing 7-8 different sample pieces. GAP were used to 1-2 max. Fast fashion doesn’t have to go through all this because they’re business model is producing thing they know people will want, so taking less risk and letting the Luxury industry set trends. The design team also tend to have gone to best art schools in London, New York, Paris, Berlin and Antwerp. This labour is far more costly as they are literally scouting the best of the best.
@bartekguz9371
@bartekguz9371 Жыл бұрын
👌video articles 👌 In the topic of visual quality, kerning is off, fi at 1:08 and fl at 7:51 roundness of F and letter spacing works much better at tighter type.
@awwa2
@awwa2 Жыл бұрын
As a history nerd I have to nitpick: it was Louis XVI (16) who was married to Marie Antoinette and was beheaded, but the image that was shown was his great-great grandfather, Louis XIV (14).
@K-ch4n
@K-ch4n Жыл бұрын
Honestly I mostly buy good quality vintage clothes nowadays, since I got tired of finding clothes I love and having to watch them fall apart with little to no option of mending due to the way clothes are often constructed nowadays. It takes a lot of time with a small budget, but also feels like going on a treasure hunt every time!
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
many luxury items are about signalling to an in-group. by definition there has to be an out-group. the more the out-group dislikes the in-group, the more the in-group doubles down. that’s why Porsche are still selling cars. none of this has much to do with the craftsmanship of any given item necessarily.
@BrunskitANM
@BrunskitANM Жыл бұрын
That’s why I value the value of a product not just showy design stuff. Well most of the time
@moonstruck4854
@moonstruck4854 Жыл бұрын
Luxury brands are way superior quality and well made compared to fast fashion. A Gucci basic t-shirt isn't simply an Old Navy t-shirt with Gucci slapped on it. Saying that they are the same is like saying a Ferrari is the same as a Toyota. They're not. What you are specifically paying for is exclusivity, quality, craftsmanship, heritage, service and name, as well as, ability to pass down as heirlooms
@jim5379
@jim5379 5 ай бұрын
One point to add is that other than materials and capitalistic reasons, is that the design process of the items are unironically made by people who do nothing but design items. Just like any kind of artist or art mediums, the value of something will increase if the design is “better”. There are many abstract art ideas that can be objectively measured to argue why some designer items are better to generic items. The same way we can compare two painters and objectively argue why one painter is better than the other
@Metaplasticizer
@Metaplasticizer Жыл бұрын
As an adjunct to this, can you also talk about the business of designer watches and their also insanely high prices?
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
We actually have a whole episode on Rolex which pretty well covers this!
@coryascott
@coryascott Жыл бұрын
Thrifting isn’t really that sustainable. I mean the only reason there’s a market for thrift stores is because people have such an excessive amount of stuff in the first place. The first thrift stores opened shortly after things started being mass produced. Also most of the things donated to a thrift store end up in the garbage anyways. It’s more sustainable to buy an actual high quality piece of clothing that’s built to last a long time
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf
@TheEpicProOfMinecraf Жыл бұрын
Just a short critique here: The idea of enjoying luxuries is not an enlightenment idea. Epicurean movements and their variants have existed in the West for thousands of years. It's not a strong thesis to say that that's a new idea. I would recommend learning more about the history of philosophical and aesthetic movements before pushing ideas that are historically dicey and make TODAY the most important day implicitly. It's not a horrible error. It just rubbed me the wrong way.
@illyandrade2553
@illyandrade2553 Жыл бұрын
@10:58 I like when Levi goes on rants, it gets the point across
@carbonelll
@carbonelll Жыл бұрын
hermes makes everything in france
@88sstraight
@88sstraight Жыл бұрын
I’m curious about whether there’s a connection between fast fashion and thrifting clothing. Have you guys looked into this? I may have missed that one. Thanks!
@Seti12345
@Seti12345 Жыл бұрын
This video is great but it really depends on the luxury brand your buying from as many artisanal luxury brands still make items that are infinitely better than the fast fashion counterpart. But if your just looking at a T-shirt for example then they’re almost indistinguishable
@miketrotman9720
@miketrotman9720 Жыл бұрын
That's a great point, but once you understand craft and material a little better, you start to look at those T-shirts through a different lens. For instance, weight: a 6-oz cotton isn't going to be as sturdy as 10-oz, no matter what logo is stamped across the chest. Or construction: Loop-wheeled construction can't be rushed out as fast as the usual side-stitched. Even composition: Pima cotton or some generic cotton-poly-Spandex blend? Even production location matters (the big contract manufacturers tend to locate wherever labor is cheapest and industry least regulated). Labels can tell the story of an entire industry, not just a single garment. They tell you what corners a company is cutting and give you an idea of the calculations that went into putting a shirt on the shelf for $8.99-and why it's not worth it to buy such a cheap shirt.
@george46light
@george46light Жыл бұрын
Interesting fashion company, with an interesting philosophy and story, is Origin USA. They care about quality, sourced and made in the US, real jobs with good wages. (I'm Dutch, have 2 of their T-shirts, they're nice.)
@frankdavis1146
@frankdavis1146 Жыл бұрын
Median of sales price of existing homes in the Midwest Census Region was a bit over 250k for January of 2023. So you'd still have a bit left over if you chose the house over the bag. Lol
@ValerieDansby
@ValerieDansby 12 күн бұрын
"I love a good *amzclothes* because it helps me decide if I want to buy the real thing or NOT." That part right there. That's IT. I feel like people stigmatize dupes but for me, I pause on large purchases that are trendy or when I feel the overconsumption mania setting in FOR ME. (It's something I struggle with LOL! I'm easily convinced to buy things I don't wear or use. They'll literally have the tags and I'll even forget I bought something and have 2 or 3 of them in my closet.) Love this video!
@esteban.escape
@esteban.escape Жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but in regards to high fashion design I would recommend the fashion roadman and bliss Foster's channels here in youtube, they go deeper within the artistic and quality focus sides of fashion, in response to the flex culture that's mentioned, totally understandable but is good to keep both perspectives! Been loving the content btw 👌🏼
@bejaouimobtagha1372
@bejaouimobtagha1372 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I am a fan of your channel but here are some points that I wish you have further researched: - The history of a company. Per example I am a fan of Versace. Why? Because of the story of Gianni Versace, because of the queer representation, because of how challenged the status quo and how he took the world by storm. If it wasn't for designers we wouldn't have seen a change on how we dress - Company's like Hermes are not under Kering or LVMH, they are a full on independent company. - Luxury bags, especially from Hermes, are a life long investment, hence the price. When you are offered a bag it doesn't cost 300,000 but somewhere between 20,000 to 80,000$. Still a lot but again the history, the craftsmanship, and the experience. - Cost per wear, to further research - Further explanation of marketing strategies - Second hand luxury (the people who actually appreciate fashion are looking for vintage clothing, the ones made by the actual designers, rather then what fashion houses adapted to) And some more points.
@memelord3348
@memelord3348 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would’ve mentioned actual designs from Luxury goods a little bit more😕 but yeah I also do understand that to the average person designer just means logomania & status
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
The supreme flex idea is not about showing ‘all the kids in the playground’, it’s about communicating to an in-group. wealthy people who buy and afford to buy high priced luxury items do-not-care-what-you-think, they aren’t signalling anything to you.
@Thrark
@Thrark Жыл бұрын
I think this is a surface-level take and misses the mark (at least from somebody who has studied the luxury market). Hermès is a terrible example to make a point about how things are no longer the same quality as they used to be as their merchandising is quite small and they do handcraft their bags with good quality actual leather. A perhaps better example would have been Louis Vuitton where people may expect leather but do in a lot of cases get plastic covered canvas (you can argue it does have its advantages but it is not comparable to traditional craft and the quality of leather). Some entry pieces (think of wallets etc.) may also in fact be of inferior quality depending on the brand. It is however in a world entirely different to fast fashion and some items even hold their value, making it a more sustainable option by creating a solid pre-loved market. It’s obviously a bit more complicated and one could go into social initiatives, preservation of craft, the different buyer segments with different reasons for buying luxury etc. Luxury can be super fascinating and there is certainly room to discuss the negatives (e.g. the paradox of inclusion in an industry that thrives on exclusivity). More nuance would make the video a lot more interesting.
@leventeperge914
@leventeperge914 Жыл бұрын
But like you can't really buy certain fashion items, that are unique at H&M or any other fast fashion brand. For example I haven't seen any pants resembling the look of the iconic Maharishi snopants with a dragon. But i agree on the shirts part that is absolutely a steal.
@pjyast
@pjyast Жыл бұрын
Designer products are typically more expensive than non-designer products due to several factors: Quality of materials: Designer products are often made using high-quality materials that are more expensive to source than cheaper, lower-quality materials used in non-designer products. Skilled craftsmanship: Designer products are usually made by highly skilled artisans or craftspeople who command higher salaries than factory workers or mass production laborers. Brand prestige: Designer brands have built up a reputation for luxury and exclusivity over time, and they often charge a premium for their products simply because of their brand name. Limited availability: Many designer products are produced in limited quantities, which increases their rarity and exclusivity, and thus their perceived value. Marketing and advertising costs: Designer brands spend a lot of money on marketing and advertising to create and maintain their brand image, which is reflected in the higher prices of their products. Intellectual property rights: Designer brands invest heavily in research and development and also protect their designs through intellectual property rights. As a result, they may charge more to recoup those costs. All of these factors contribute to the higher prices of designer products.
@bobschwartz674
@bobschwartz674 Жыл бұрын
Hermes is pronouced ermaze.
@joesavag
@joesavag Жыл бұрын
No. It’s ehrmess.
@jasonwojcik
@jasonwojcik Жыл бұрын
@@joesavag No, ermahgerd its expensive
@joesavag
@joesavag Жыл бұрын
@@jasonwojcik you’re a fan of berks I see
@turneronthetrack
@turneronthetrack Жыл бұрын
There’s a point missing and that is the cost to produce the initial prototypes is through the roof, protos go back and forth between designer and vendor and take sometimes weeks of design work from some of the best in the business in design, development, factory workers, then considering their wages and the fabric qualities, the cost then looks a little more justified (on some of the garments). Also, devils advocate, unsure how some new start up designers can charge through mega for garments from a brand they started last year, you’re usually paying for the cost of being able to have whatever big designer have an influence in designing your product you’re wearing but some start ups completely overvalue their work too early on imo
@TheOnlyTaps
@TheOnlyTaps Жыл бұрын
Fascinating watch as always 👊🏿
@RobertaPinnockGloryzoneTv
@RobertaPinnockGloryzoneTv Жыл бұрын
I so look forward to hearing levi's ranting every wendsays lol
@k700i
@k700i Жыл бұрын
I love how you can trigger people on you pronounce these brands 🤣🤣
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Duuuuude always 😅
@muddy_spaghetti
@muddy_spaghetti Жыл бұрын
High fashion brands usually have a minimum of four seasons, some up to ten, or more, so almost all have more than two new releases of product a year, driven by consumerism.
@thomascool1335
@thomascool1335 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually more into a local non famous brands made locally rather than big brands from Europe or America that are made in China or Vietnam. I still have a leather goods that are made in Ireland, Italy, and Portugal, they don't even have a website, just a simple phone number and address
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Жыл бұрын
this video is quite an over simplification of higher value, luxury and marketing works and what it’s all for.
@Kyle_Evers
@Kyle_Evers Жыл бұрын
I feel like this video dismisses differences in quality all together. No, a $3,000 Gucci shirt is not 100x better than $30 T shirt, but generally speaking, the Gucci shirt IS better quality. Quantifying how much so is the hard part. That being said, there is almost never a reason for a shirt to cost $3,000, but to say "all clothes are now the same" isn't honest. I have a few pieces of designer clothes/accessories and I can promise that all of them have a higher level of quality than shit that I bought at H&M. I think there still needs to be some differentiation there.
@jule6220
@jule6220 Жыл бұрын
FYI: organic Basics were bought by a big fast fashion mogul a few months ago, so they aren’t that good of a recommendation anymore 😓
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
I am into certain brands but designer brands don''t suit me, I don't mind paying extra, but I am into durability and I am into style not fashion, I am a bit of an aesthete but I am from a blue collar/army brat background. I just used way too many words to say cool looking and indestructible.
@findingwithterry
@findingwithterry Жыл бұрын
Another great video. One small thing (yeah, sorry, I'm that guy). The King Louis who got his head lopped off along with his wife Marie Antoinette was Louis the XVI. The one in the picture is Louis the XIV, the Sun King, the longest reigning king in French history. However, given that he built Versailles and wore high heels as well as any woman, your point stands.
@FutureProofTV
@FutureProofTV Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah we learned that on this edit! Gotta work on our historical figures apparently 😅
@zachsss1916
@zachsss1916 2 ай бұрын
Just got back from a two week trip in Italy… the food wasn’t all that. It was better on average but nothing amazing that I couldn’t find from mom and pop restaurants in America
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk Жыл бұрын
That reference to MJF was... unusual, but oddly very thematic considering his character
@lingoalfa789
@lingoalfa789 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail has changed at least 3 times lol I gotta say it’s working, wasn’t planning on watching this vid, but clicked cause I got curious abt the thumbnail change
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