Why are fewer young people joining the British Army?

[@bones6978]

dying for a government that hates me? no thanks.

[@johnsmith6503]

Litterally bro. BBC pushing toxic white sis male bs and then coming back being like "oh wait actually we do need you after all" like gtfo of here with that bs

[@RyanGoslingthestonecoldsigma]

The government doesn’t hate you, you pay them money

[@kaptinbarfbeerd1317]

​@@RyanGoslingthestonecoldsigmameans nothing

[@Pocketpatriot]

It’s about defending your country,not your government

[@kaptinbarfbeerd1317]

@@Pocketpatriot and notice how none of the UKs recent wars were about defending the country and were more about helping out the US with their odious foreign policy?

[@charters_william]

People are waking up to the fact that fighting for your government and fighting for your country are two VERY different things…

[@Liam_g321]

It’s not fighting for your country, it’s not WWII Nazi Germany is it.

[@michaelgreen5515]

Could have not have put it better. Then they wonder why the youth dont want to fight. They are smarter than we where.

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

- The pay is roughly that of a shelf-stacker at ALDI. - The accommodation is so bad that the MOD cannot legally charge you rent for it in some cases, and illegal migrants from some of the poorest parts of the world set it on fire in protest. - The MOD washes its hands of you utterly the minute you leave, letting you rely on the charity of the British public. Who to be fair are very open-handed when it comes to that, but that's not the point. - You will have your leave cancelled to cover for striking civil servants wanting more pay. Said civil servants already earn considerably more than you. - You may well get legally thrown under the bus for doing what you were ordered decades later. - You are forbidden from unionising or going on strike, so have no chance of redressing any grievances or improving your lot. - Capita are running the recruitment process for the Army, and they simply cannot get anything right at all. Ever. - The RAF were discovered to be running a racially discriminatory hiring policy against white men. Not very sensible when they make up over 80% of the population, and you have a recruitment crisis. - We have screwed our young over with debt, unaffordable housing, and zero-hour jobs. Unsurprisingly, they see little reason to fight for a country that is treating them so poorly.

[@Awaisnad]

You’ve put this beautifully, though out of pure curiosity what is capital doing (Ik they have a lot of contracts with MOD) and how are they screwing up?

[@michael5637]

@@Awaisnad Copy and pasting part of my comment - I tried to join but Capita took a year to get me from the initial stages to a face to face medical. I failed on the face to face medical because they decided that me having depression in 2013 due to the death of my father was enough to discard me.

[@mrblobby6284]

why would white youth fight for a country that repeatedly describes patriotic white natives as "racists" and practice 2 tier policing against them and promote woke "anti white" policies against them. they have zero reason to fight for this country that hates them and prefers illegal migrants over them for housing

[@scroggins100]

Hi mate, I read your comment and felt compelled to send one of support. How different was my service. I joined in 1972, age 16 and boy was it different back then. I felt a part of a big family. Sure we had a far more disciplined service, but we "got it" and had pride. Many of the "old sweats" had been in WW2 and you just could not ask for a better, no stress gang. The public, most of whom had done national service were 100 per cent behind us, you could hitch hike home by just carrying your hold all. Pay was dreadful but housing and food good. Then it began to change and by the 80s the old lags had gone and the new breed seemed to loose the edge. More moaning and more career focus took over. By the 90s it had gone. I knew it was time to leave when I saw my first SNCO with a brief case.... WTF.. Sad. its easy to f-ck something up and very hard to put right.. Keep low and move fast mate! VBRegards S

[@scroggins100]

@MrPutin-e7v Mediocrity seems to be your fortie!

[@mastery7901]

Who wants to join a force that acts on behalf of rich, power hungry, uncaring politicians that wants you to suffer for their own benefit. While they grow fat and their kids enjoy a lavish life, while you live with PTSD, disability and a conscience constructed by nightmares of your deeds in war.

[@swaythegod5812]

If there’s a draft everyone has to go regardless of class or background What we saw in Ukraine was the first people to run away were the non Europeans who were men and citizens witch is the real problem If you aren’t willing to die for where you live you probably don’t deserve to live there that goes for all the entitled Europeans too who take everything they have for granted because they have high standards of living

[@guineapigzed]

Bingo

[@dummykeir1717]

i dont want to be recruited as war criminal and commit war crimes towards other foreign countries but if for own country self-defense of course i do want to be recruited for

[@albion6087]

precisely, its the navy which does the actual defending of the country.

[@Jibril_Adaov]

Very scarily true

[@MikePerry-bt9yv]

As soon as the elites are at the front, I'll consider it

[@jarraandyftm]

The elite regiments are always at the front.

[@mihiec]

Hahaha boris jonson to?​@@jarraandyftm

[@jarraandyftm]

@@mihiec no, he’s not part of any elite regiment.

[@Hideyoshi3241]

@@jarraandyftm he's referring to rich people and the politicians who benefit from the wars they start, not the special forces lol

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

They and all theit kids and grandkids and their extended families. Kings of old fought the war with they themselves in frontlines.

[@TheCountryJournal]

Why fight for a country you don't even recognise anymore, for people who who hate you and the principles you stand for. No thanks, this country is finished!

[@Osprey3109]

The irony that the ante came from invading countries willy nilly …. Pleasing the small hat men

[@GB-mu9ue]

Mass immigration has nothing to do with Jews. Those traitors are not Jewish.

[@am4793]

Ah! The racism angle.

[@TheTomcantdecide]

Off you go then

[@TheCountryJournal]

@@TheTomcantdecide Trying mate, couple more years and I reckon I'll be in the right state to escape the UK.

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

You forgot Gen X, Millenial and Gen Z saw what happens after those vet returned, broken but only to be spit out by the country that sends them to war. F those politicians that lied and betrayed those veterans. They can fought their wars themselves.

[@JEAGERlST]

Oh, poor criminals. They obviously didn't mean to eliminate innocent people, torture them, and r word the women.

[@thesoberdrunkman9845]

The vets are homeless. Yet they have endless funds to send in aid to Ukraine, weapons to send to Israel, and money to post illegal immigrants in 4 star hotels. Its just crazy.

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

@@thesoberdrunkman9845 yes. What bunch of warmongers s.o.b

[@mfactor88]

spot on mate

[@alexandru5369]

yep amazed this wasn't discussed

[@ziggerzee]

Keep Britain out of foreign wars, keep foreign wars out of Britain

[@littoww]

What foreign wars is UK involved in?

[@Gothicgamer-rz2rx]

​@littoww most Wars after ww2 two examples being Korea and Afghanistan they was both Americans Wars not ours yet we got involved

[@littoww]

@@Gothicgamer-rz2rx any were involved in right now?

[@Haris-qo1hx]

@@littowwwhen daddy America makes the call for the next poor nation to invade glorious Britannia will be the first to respond! 🇬🇧🐶

[@altspitfire]

​@@littoww Ukraine??? All of nato are supplying them with weapons and money, including the UK.

[@davepoole5582]

After serving in the Army for 10 +yrs..... I can't even get a house/flat or even a room....So why bother ????

[@albert7311]

The price of housing is proportional to population. Each 1% increase in population increases housing costs by 2%. We currently have immigration at one million a year. The number of British people has not significantly changed since 1950. Immigration is the reason you can’t afford a home

[@albert7311]

There are about 55 million British people. Same as in the 1950s

[@jamal22958]

​@albert7311 stop taking the easy way out. Every doctor ive seen is an immigrant. And a lot of the nurses in hospitals and the healthcare sector are so. The real problem is the govt but you still want to blame ordinary humans who have no control over housing or benefits system

[@albert7311]

Correct, the government should not be importing foreigners. They should be removing foreigners. They are an unwelcome burden.

[@albert7311]

Foreigners do have control over housing and benefits. They could leave and not be a burden on either, the reason they do not is that they are selfish.

[@GeorgeBodley-hs1ss]

Because they got more sense than to die for industrial and wealthy elites .

[@karlpennington72]

My grandad died fighting for this country .but now he wouldn't recognise it ❤

[@BoatcareGND12]

Fighting to protect people that don’t like you is crazy

[@Tilly042Tilford-zo7zt]

I resigned my commission last year after 30 years of service. It's not my country anymore.

[@rayscott3445]

Sorry mate I was out of order

[@rayscott3445]

Chinese bloke with a Belfast accent lol

[@ilikelampshades6]

I gave my commission up after only 5 years. I'm not working that hard for such little pay. 30k payrise to go to a much easier job in civi street

[@YorkshireFlea]

​@@ilikelampshades6 What do you do now?

[@ilikelampshades6]

@@YorkshireFlea Went to the NHS in a management position

[@StewartCain-w7f]

As a white working class person , why would I fight and die for a country that increasingly shuts me out and prefers immigrant needs over my own ... If these immigrants are British too , well then join the British army .. I'm not fighting and dying for them ..

[@keifer7813]

As an immigrant, I could say the exact same. Why would I fight and die for a country that constantly tells me this isn't "really" my country?

[@Dan-lg4bs]

@@keifer7813 because it isn’t your country, we welcomed you and allowed you to flourish here that doesn’t make it your country. Have some respect for the country which has allowed you live a better life.

[@keifer7813]

@@Dan-lg4bs Right, so you're making my point for me. Since this isn't my country, it makes no sense for OP to say I should be the one fighting and not him

[@starmoon4510]

I completely agree in France 🇫🇷 some people asking similar questions but I think UK 🇬🇧 is much worse because in France we at least have patriotic values and the politicians here still stand up for secularism and freedom while in Britain 🇬🇧 it’s almost like the politicians don’t care so why would the common people and any form of patriotic nationalism is looked down upon.

[@starmoon4510]

@@keifer7813 I’m not surprised you saying most people don’t expect immigrants from the third world being grateful it’s fine taking government subsidies and money but service for the country that gives refuge and freedom is a big no?Why come to a country you despise and dislike so much?

[@procanvas]

Worked in a recruitment office in Luton a few years ago. Was asked to remove my uniform on my lunch break before I left the office. No other country does that.

[@JohnDuffy-bq8wg]

Well wearing a British uniform in Luton would annoy the natives and we couldn't have that could we

[@damionkeeling3103]

@@JohnDuffy-bq8wg Founded 1500 years ago by the Anglo-Saxons. Overwhelmingly English until the 90s and now a third is asian.

[@bubba842]

Probably for your own safety. I worked at a recruitment office in Oxford in 2000 and had to do the same. I had to come to work in civies and get dressed there. I had to iron my uniform there because I got there by train. That was 25 years ago.

[@JohnDuffy-bq8wg]

@@bubba842 yes but that's the problem a man in his countries uniform should feel safe in his own country, the problem is with the demograph of the immigrants we have allowed in that cause that fear for safety even in our soldiers, its come to something when a soldier can't wear his uniform in his own country

[@suhailshafi]

The British military is mostly an OFFENSIVE military, as we saw in Iraq, where they invaded a country not threatening the UK. This is one of the most important reasons why young Britons do not see joining the military as a very well advised career move.

[@CraigTheBrute-yf7no]

I don’t want to die for 1sr@el Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@skeletonking4119]

Let alone also Africa too in secret

[@pevebe]

Wrong. We don't care about that, we simply see how the state doesn't defend our land so why would we defend the state?!

[@VeteranR]

​@@CraigTheBrute-yf7no Who? 🤔

[@me5969]

Well that's not the reason is it? because young people were either not around then or too young to remember. Iraq was a very, very short war. Even if that was true then that's the vegan mentality of faux mortality. You typed this on a phone of which it's parts were primarily made in a sweat shop in a poverty riddled country. Don't pretend it's anything to do with humanitarian morals when you probably work for a CEO that funds and profits from these wars. Just be honest people aren't joining because it's not their temperament and they never would even if our country got invaded and their families got attacked. Not everyone wants to be a paramedic or a firefighter or police officer. Not everyone wants to be a delivery driver. Not everyone wants to be a nurse or a care worker ect. And the ones who normally would join aren't because there's no reason. There's no war on. What are you going to do when you're in? That's why

[@kingkong-gn6oi]

Maybe dont treat ethnically british brits like garbagio and giving non natives special treatment

[@NaturalRelaxation-c5q]

There's nothing left to fight for

[@albert7311]

There is, it’s just that the government are the problem.

[@polpotnoodle7441]

I applied for parachute regiment in 2019and got turned down for having eczema in 2008 No joke

[@ukdude25]

i went all the way up to Edinburgh to join the Duke of Lancs just to be turned back because of a neck issue i had 5 years earlier...

[@Andy-P]

@@polpotnoodle7441 Join the reserves they have less stringent medical requirements. Make it there then re-appy to join the regulars. After that time they will see you are over your past medical issues

[@jasonsmith-xw8xx]

Yes it’s a pattern here Capita (crapiter) seem to be rejecting people for having injuries or things years back You could be 20 now and had a broken finger when you was 3 years old and they fail you . The sooner the military get rid of capiter they may see a improvement, your story is one of many and I hope you are successful

[@theviralspiral-courtesyoft1187]

I was turned away from the Royal Navy for the exact same reason. I formed a medical appeal and had the decision overturned. It may take a few months, but it can be worked around.

[@bubba842]

It's probably because you are white and they had already reached their white man quota.

[@SP-lw7mr]

You have to have pride in your country in the first place. Since the only people that win in modern warfare are politicians and arms firms whilst they pay soldiers absolute pittance there’s no motivation.

[@andreahodson7031]

NO and i advised my sons no! why fight a bankers war when the only winners are the bankers!!

[@topoftheroofsurbex9995]

you fanny

[@zalstryverzzz5019]

The pay sucks - better off joining the US army - they have better perks

[@LayLoow]

@@zalstryverzzz5019yea one of the perks is having ptsd knowing that you’ve killed people who were innocent

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Sign up then and don't come back. No loss. ​@@topoftheroofsurbex9995

[@togawearer2799]

@@LayLoow That's very specific! How many do you know?

[@boardmike82]

The wages are horrendous too. 23k that won't get you anywhere now.

[@jacobs3031]

I earn that working a 4 day week with early finishes.

[@Ryan-gf5ir]

Exactly 💯

[@jacobs3031]

@@boardmike82 if wages started at 30k I'd definetley join up.

[@alexander.m96]

​@@jacobs3031there are ways to jump to 37k straight away, but as someone In the Navy, don't bother joining.

[@jacobs3031]

@@alexander.m96 is it that bad mate? A lad I knew was based in Yeovil and Plymouth most of his career in meteorology he was hardly ever at sea. He loved the first year or two then he absolutely hated it.

[@Miamivice74]

I love my country, but I'd be dammed if I'd fight for it the mess it's in right now, doesn't even feel like I live in Britain anymore!

[@keifer7813]

So you'd sit back and let it get taken over by another country like Russia?

[@starmoon4510]

Honestly it’s so true

[@Haris-qo1hx]

Shouldn’t have been invading other countries then mate 🤷‍♂️

[@starmoon4510]

@@Haris-qo1hx so that justifies mass illegal migration? Because a group elites made a few mistakes? Normal people have too suffer? Also it’s happening not just in the uk and Europe but even countries like Turkey where anti migration sentiment is running high, I wonder does Turkey deserve to take all those migrants too?

[@Haris-qo1hx]

@@starmoon4510 yeah they do, secularisation finally decreasing in turkey lmao

[@reteptetep5078]

You cannot be patriotic when your very own government dislikes you and your country is flooded with people who do not look like you, speak like you, or have the same values and traditions as you. The more "diverse" Britain becomes, the more the army will suffer with lower and lower numbers. And rightly so. After all, who will we be defending against at that point since everybody will already be here? My lineage goes back many generations in Britain. I would not fight for this country and what it has become.

[@AC-gu9ks]

We invented globalism and now we are paying the price.

[@jidec3165]

@@AC-gu9ks🎯🎯🎯

[@YorkshireFlea]

​@@AC-gu9ksWho invented globalism? My ancestors never decided to colonize India or Africa nor did they gain from it 😂

[@gide_soss]

​@@AC-gu9ks facts, UK plundered other countries and now have to reap the consequences

[@Trapo-io6ci]

@@AC-gu9ks😂😂😂without globalism and migration the UK wouldn’t be where it is today People can’t seem to fathom that a bigger working class means more revenue in taxes for the gov

[@RedStripesAirsoft-jd6iv]

I always thought I would join the U.K army when I was a kid. Growing up in a small town outside Cambridge, between 2002 and 2015, I had friends, a strong sense of community, lovely locals, Church every Sunday and most of all, a culture and country to be proud of. This is no longer the case and hasn't been for over a decade. The U.K literally sold its soul to globalism, it rejected all the aspects of itself that made it great and then asks itself why it can't find its identity as a nation anymore. I would have gladly laid down my life for the country I knew, but that country no longer exists, and I think many young people are aware of this reality. I could say a lot more, but what would it change? nothing, because the truth is that the majority of Brits are not willing to stand up against the evil that has entered our shores, I suspect they never will. If any Brit claims that the country is better than it was, they are either fantastically ignorant or have deluded themselves to dangerous degree. Tragically, most fall into the latter.

[@brianfreeman8290]

Personally the thirteen years I spent in the Army were brilliant, but I recognise your very well expressed viewpoint.

[@RedStripesAirsoft-jd6iv]

@@brianfreeman8290 For its worth I’m grateful for your service. You did an amazing thing, and the uk and its citizens probably haven’t given you the appreciation you deserve. It’s no small thing to live in the service of others, your reward will be eternal, I have no doubts.

[@brianfreeman8290]

@@RedStripesAirsoft-jd6iv Thank you but I need no gratitude. I didn't see any real action. I would say to youngsters that it's a seriously good life.

[@keifer7813]

And what is this evil that has entered our shores exactly?

[@starmoon4510]

🇫🇷❤🇬🇧it’s so true

[@KitGoldenlance-x7w]

Wish i was leader of the country id treat our soldiers like the heroes they truly are

[@tonykeirouz4404]

because most of the UK is not populated by english people😂

[@sammy5658]

😂

[@a1_trillz]

80% is hardly a minority you clown

[@SI-vb7hd]

Ill be sure to pass that on to the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish 😂

[@AiGeneratedWaluigi]

@@Kyteasahighwhat about people that are literally British in Northern Ireland?

[@m4a1mag]

statistically that s not even true, ur on the internet and socials too much log off and stay in reality...

[@graemeharper765]

Because in the age of mass information people realise ur just dying for elites own goals and problems they want to sort out

[@ismaelhall3990]

This age you speak of is a gift all over the world people now see how things really are.

[@kanderson4417]

Who would fight for the country that prioritises foreigners over the native population.

[@albert7311]

And one that tricked people into Suddenly becoming infertile.

[@NA-gf1zy]

It’s pretty simple all of the recruitment campaigns are designed to appeal to people who wouldn’t want to join in the first place. Instead of trying to convince people who a. Don’t want to join and b. Probably aren’t cut out for it they need to go back to focus on appealing to the people who would actually consider it.

[@whyshouldwecare3267]

You'll know a war is imminent when the adverts are full of working class white men again.

[@ItsSamHussey]

I went in 2 years ago and managed to get out, but it’s because of what many people are saying on here, our government and the state of our country is not worth fighting or dying for. If foreign troops where to step foot on British soil then that’s another thing, but 18 year olds aren’t gonna give their lives away half way across the globe for a government that won’t even care about them.

[@albert7311]

Foreign men are here already. Joining the army would give the establishment the opportunity to send our men away. Also the injected the army, damaging them.

[@TheSibyjohn]

It’s very simple … look at British population… does it reflect the British Army?

[@Bigducksrule]

Read these comments and you’ll understand. The government isn’t even trying to push back against the observations made, So maybe these people have a point.

[@AB__CD]

The British still think this the 18th century. Times and fortunes have changed & do not favour them military. The empire is gone, so has the military might.

[@asdfjgh]

Nothing to fight for

[@latinus_iv]

Because my ancestors who fought for this country during world war 2 say they wouldn’t fight again if they could seeing how this country has become, when they say things like those who died would be turning in their graves and they wouldn’t fight again it says it all. What’s there to fight for ? I give all to the system and I receive little back from the system so when the time comes and the system needs my sacrifice then I will give it the opposite.

[@misopaw]

I live in UK as foreigner with settled status and reading this comments makes me sad how imperial powerful wealthy britain decline over the years. I experienced hatred from my teamleaders at work but I realize that this relationship can be applied also from politicians to population with very close similarities. I created opinion that western world is damaging itself. British society is very divided and heading to self-destruction. But same situation is happening in east europe too. I do not see Britain positively in future. In might enter into civil war in future with minorities. Rich end powerful destroyed what used to be British values.

[@TopDrilla]

as someone who applied i can tell u as a matter of fact one of the biggest reasons is how awful the application process is theres an organization called mpct which is a college meant to prepare teens for military training and almost everyone there had some kind of problem with their application. otherwise, there was really no point being in the college itself, since if ur old enough to join the college, then ur old enough to join the military. the medical part of the application is what holds a lot of people back, anything would get flagged up by capita.. from small cases of acne to signs of mild asthma from a young age. despite the medical, the application process is still very long and most people either changed their minds or lost interest completely theres also nothing to inspire patriotism in this country... i walk down the street and see more rainbow flags than union jacks..

[@Ironcrossdelta]

Capita and their ATS recruitment System is binning more applicants then ppl realise.

[@damionkeeling3103]

@@richardschlange9629 Integrity? Spying and secrets have been an important part of the military for a hundred years or more. During WWI the govt hired professional writers, well known authors, to write atrocity stories to keep the public invested in the war. Lies in another words about how bad the enemy were and why it was so important to keep fighting despite the horrendous casualty rates. Integrity might exist at some level but the structure overall doesn't support it.

[@bubba842]

​@@damionkeeling3103they are doing the same thing with Russia right now. BS stories and lies.

[@Knatrick]

There's the reasons people are saying here; government does not care about you, we participate in conflicts for interests of politicians and rich people rather than any honourable reason. The other main reasons in my books are the ridiculous medical disqualifiers and lack of funding.

[@armorbearer9702]

The British government can try any recruitment tactic they want, but it will not work. The comment section echoes the same thing. The common man does not trust the judgement and goodwill of the British government. Until the government changes, the recruitment crisis will not get better.

[@tennessee_tom6126]

Simple, it takes 6-12 months to go through the recruitment process. Young people will find something else to do in the mean time. It’s not a motivation problem in young people, it’s an administration problem

[@peterwait641]

Used to be a couple of months with old recruitment offices .

[@eddieharris6004]

Profit for someone with red tape.

[@stephennelmes4557]

A large percentage of people living in the UK were born abroad. By joining the British army, they would be fighting for a country that isn't theirs. Nationalism and patriotism are now, in many ways, synonymous with racism. Add to this diversity, equity, and inclusion. The fact you can now no longer even smoke a cigarette on a military base or ship, which, last I looked, was still legal and taxable. The pay is crap. Many of the weapons are substandard and are more about keeping British industry in work than giving the serviceman the best tools for the job. On top of all this, many kids leaving school now seem more certain of their pronouns than they are of basic human sexuality.

[@meirionowen5979]

This is the most intelligent comment on here.

[@stephennelmes4557]

​@meirionowen5979 I served 25 years in the Royal Navy, 79 to 04. I also served 18 years in the Royal Fleet Auxiliary 04 to 22. I've tracked Russian nuclear submarines in the GIUK Gap, cleared mine fields off Kuwait, and done much else. Whats happening now makes me want to cry. This can't be an accident. Surely.

[@keifer7813]

@@stephennelmes4557 Cry some more

[@meirionowen5979]

@@stephennelmes4557 Hence my comment. I sensed you knew what was what. I'm not a vet, but my closest friend is: Iraq and Afghan. He is very, very angry, and probably does cry (alone). I too don't believe any of this is accidental. But who are we? Just the people, just the "far right" dross in our government's eyes. Stay strong, mate, we the people, the far right dross, sill respect our vets, the men just like you. And, very importantly, among all this crap, the young still look up to you. Maybe it's your destiny to remain at war: by this, I mean serve as an example to the rudderless young. At 61, I'll do my bit where I can (Just a ten-a-penny teacher)--but you guys are the ones they'll really listen to.

[@thebasedspectre3048]

@keifer7813 go to hell ignorant scum

[@sebjones1566]

HM prisons get better accommodation and facilities than the dump my brother was based at during his four years in the army.

[@spaceinvader4565]

"fight the russians" most of us having been fighting, laughing, & playing Counter Strike with russians since our early teens. Internet has shown us people are both more divided and somehow still more connected than every before

[@alexanderwatkins7330]

I went to join up when I was 19, took them 3 years to sort my application because of past minor medical issues like childhood asthma. By the time I got sent to the assessment centre I got turned away on the first day by a capita doctor for having a food allergy when I was 3 years old and have been cleared of any food allergies for at least a decade. Was given a red card and told to piss off home. Would never bother joining again after hearing all my mates who are currently serving saying how bad it is anyway.

[@ryrudizzydarg2549]

Similar experience wasted years of my life and even attended military college

[@jb-if7sg]

same here. capita takes the piss.

[@rjsclips691]

Maybe because there adverts are catering to people who hate the country lol

[@AT-gu8by]

They hate the way that they are treated in the country by the likes of you.

[@thebasedspectre3048]

@@AT-gu8by because this isn't their land and they started it with their bullcrap

[@factsoverfear9771]

Their wars are always unjust. Who wants to join that 🗯

[@costilla1212]

Why would they fight for muhammad, Tyrone & raja 😂

[@Nasim-i6y]

The fact that you have no funds for ammunition and barely any equipment says a lot. Plus, they aren't exactly tough. 😂 they run for their lives when up against equals.

[@Nasim-i6y]

There is more equipment and ammunition on the streets of London than what the British army have. 😂

[@Nasim-i6y]

Google who is more important, Muhammad or Jesus. Read what western academics say.

[@starmoon4510]

Mohammed and Raja definitely won’t be fighting for Britain 🇬🇧 UK they probably more loyal to their curry house or restaurant then the country.😂

[@starmoon4510]

@@Nasim-i6y I still prefer them over Mohammed and raja 😂

[@petersherwood8565]

Would never fight for a multicultural UK I didn't vote or consent too

[@Haroldclifford-i1u]

Arnt you Christian?

[@cmd7930]

@@Haroldclifford-i1uChristians should only fight for Christians, not non believers

[@109s07]

And? ​@@Haroldclifford-i1u

[@ryeguy7941]

​@user-lg1ex8ic8v are you?

[@akooma3694]

Heard the bullying is outrageous and goes unchecked. That what put me off.

[@jacobs3031]

Been on a few selection courses before the type of people joining up put me off mainly chavy mouthy estate types. I'm more inclined to join RAF or navy.

[@yes763]

​@jacobs3031 you just cant hack it then clearly...

[@jacobs3031]

@@yes763 true I can't hack being around that type of people.

[@akooma3694]

@@yes763 Let the expendables be expendable, not good for anything else.

[@Ns-vv1yw]

To woke today that’s the problem Clive……. Ex forces here. Been in Iraq and lived in Germany 2000-2005

[@Michael-eh9hy]

Why is the UK so keen to fight russia, stop warmongering

[@Rorywizz]

why is russia so keen to fight ukraine? they need to stop warmongering.

[@RyanBennett-ub2cu]

I tried to join but i can't because of asthma, i don't think i can join any service branch, so if the conscription service ever comes knocking I'm not going.

[@IrfanAli-nk7en]

When the rich and arms companies and politicians send them self and their children we will happily go with them until then no chance

[@robertheywood2553]

As for the swimming test, this was waived in WW2. One of my Uncle's and my father in law served during the war and couldn't swim

[@j0rzeh]

Why would they… fight for who all the immigrants and asylum seekers, this country isn’t worth fighting for anymore.

[@Astralwolf23]

Oh where to start? No incentive. You get better pay elsewhere for doing FAR LESS...like working on tills at tesco, McDonalds or whatever. You could be in 10 years, a sgt and still just get a tenner or so more than someone 1 year in tesco or such. Its not hourly too, it is day rates, in and out of the field. You could be a standard 8 hour for a day but exercise in horrendous conditions for 24hours, you're given an hour or two to rest but who actually sleeps properly during thst? Recruitment is done by a horrific civillian company, infact a lot is done by civillian companies and they are renown for bad reviews and mismanagement. The army is still needing to catch up to modern standards on so much yet those at the MoD refuse to listen...mismanagement and ignorance prevailing as always. So many reasons sadly. Its why so many are leaving too

[@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841]

Yeah. I work for one such civilian company that took over military catering and they are rubbish. Management is a nightmare. There's a a huge lack of cooperation and communication between supervisors and the Mess Manager. The lack of KP staff in the JRM, ensures that me and my colleague will be forever helping out every evening if one or two of them go sick or on leave (there's only four KPs there compared to six or seven they had previously and they never got properly replaced). Also, getting the proper amount of cleaning chemicals is beyond a joke. We've constantly ordered the vital liquids we need for cleaning surfaces and the platewash machines, never got them or they were sent to other messes and were never told. Our steriliser sink is knackered whilst the civilian repair companies argue over who's job it is to fix it.

[@acegoat7573]

Because the Government prioritises immigrants and non-English people. Why would I prioritise my government and fight their battles?

[@BeratYaner]

As an ex service member thats brown i realised that fighting for a country that hates me is just plain stupid

[@Manuscriptsdontburn1990]

White people know exactly how you feel

[@biloo2007]

Young generation awake not sending no one for killing kids for isreal

[@Wubbalubbadubbub]

Personally I tried too, I got through the mile and a half run and other fitness tests. Then the recruiter denied my application because I had Asthma as a child, I was running 1.5 miles In 9 minutes 20 seconds. I don’t see how someone with Asthma could do that?

[@HappyHealthyKarate-Do]

Because this country isn't worth fighting for.

[@joey-pn3xe]

Is any country worth fighting for?

[@winterwulf1995]

​@@joey-pn3xeNo lol

[@Michael-yz4mc]

Then Leave ?

[@KennyMcDermott-m8q]

We got to many foreign peoples that put whatever country they from first simple

[@AT-gu8by]

Why should they fight for and with the likes you racists like yourself, who hate them?!

[@aussiewanderer6304]

Real world: Western military sends mostly male recruits into battle. Military: promotes and reports on all the promotions and accolades of the female recruits. Male recruits: drop out or stop signing up. Military: "Why can't we get/keep recruits?"

[@SimonMiles-e7l]

I will fight forr the visa to get me off this pitiful island

[@YorkshireFlea]

Let me know how you obtain one 😂

[@gide_soss]

​where would you go?

[@winterwulf1995]

​@@gide_sossSomewhere warmer, dryer and not populated by spineless whiners

[@olimurray4058]

Becoming an individualistic society is definitely a major factor here. I was in the Army for 10 years and absolutely loved it. Whilst absolutely everything possible should be done to avoid a conflict between NATO and Russia, national service is a great idea and would serve to meet the needs of the military while developing young people with skills and positive attributes at the same time. It should also be understood that the only reason Soldiers are required to take someone’s life is to save the lives of many more others. Afghanistan would probably be a better place today if NATO forces had stayed there. But regardless, I would absolutely recommend a few years in the military of perhaps a full career to every UK citizen. There are experiences in the military you just can’t get anywhere else.

[@AT-gu8by]

Bore off coloniser, the Afghanis don’t want you, fk the British Army.

[@sorcerous8401]

Cause we have had countless movies and art now that show us the horror of war and we have a better understanding of how bad war is

[@liberalimperial3410]

Ten years ago when I applied I failed medical and everyday I’m grateful for it

[@joshuagodfrey5686]

If the UK introduced a National Guard which train and fight only in the UK Heartland then yes many may join because they would be doing what they believe in. Defending their Homes, Family and Loved Ones directly without the need of going abroad and dying for example in Berlin, when it’s their own territory they want to help not a foreign country.

[@Nick-zp3ub]

We already have one. They are known as territorials.

[@tanyard]

@@Nick-zp3ub The UK army reserve is not the same as the national guard, also they changed the name from the territorial army to the army reserve 10 years ago. the army reserve arent UK based only, they can be deployed globally alongside active troops. a true national guard like each US state as well as many European nations would be a good idea tho.

[@Nick-zp3ub]

@@tanyard Agreed, although i was under the impression some american national guards were deployed to iraq. What we need in england is something similar to the home guard or american state defence militias. Anyone could join, but the officers and ncos should be retired veterans

[@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister]

Has the enrollment from the lesbian boy wannabe's gone up at all over the years?

[@TianDiener]

Rather go join the French foreign legion if you want the skills. They look after their own.

[@vej48]

They forgot RACISM as another factor as indicated by the settlement payment awarded to the Black female soldier on the right at 3:32.....

[@BrettDavis-i7x]

The Army doesn't want people who think for themselves. People do these days and that's how it is.

[@ezchannelclap]

I'm going to put this out there as someone who was in the cadets and went to MPCT Our government barely takes care of our veterans as it is and the British Army is severely outdated and underfunded and wastes millions or billions on advertisements thinking a bit of CGI is going to make people want to serve a system that does not care about them there is a large disconnect between the older soldiers nearing the end of their service and newer soldiers and recruits what usually happens is people are normally driven away or drop out and if anyone with a higher rank hates you in the early stages they can just practically end your career before it starts and just bully you out I honestly do not blame younger folks for not wanting to serve in the army when there's more promising and less stressful careers out there that doesn't take a toll on your mental health and pays more than the army would

[@Pirate_memess427]

"Wages have not kept up with cost of living" *Shows footage of money being printed *Everyone wonders why wages dont hold

[@jjlitt870]

I applied but because im slightly autistic i got rejected instantly on the application and its to complicated to try and appeal and kinda pointless

[@spiritvlogz6090]

Dying over politicians is one of the stupidest thing we have normalised

[@ilikelampshades6]

Horrendous pay, massive workload, high stress, 25 years added to pensionable age, lack of adventure training, lack of training opportunities, lack of respect, nothing in the country worth fighting for, no assets for young people to want to protect. Need any more reasons not to join? Sincerely, a veteran LT in the RN

[@YorkshireFlea]

You wouldn't recommend I sign up then 😂 jobs here are awful man.

[@ilikelampshades6]

@YorkshireFlea Depends on a lot of factors. What is your realistic earning potential outside? Are you wanting to get onto the property ladder? Wanted to move around? Wanting to meet interesting people? It is fantastic for a lot of things but most people join up, get what they want out of it and leave again after a few years. I used it as a springboard for my career. But realistically, the days of signing up for a long career just aren't worth it anymore. Pensions and salary isn't competitive enough imo

[@YorkshireFlea]

@ilikelampshades6 Hi thank you for the reply I appreciate it. I currently earn 30k before tax as a coms engineer. I'm good at saving even with the rents etc out here and I am saving up for my first property for when I want to move out yes. I find military doctrine, combined arms etc very interesting. I wanted to get into drone engineering, repair etc but it seems virtually impossible to find such a role in civvy life.

[@benjohnson4606]

Because it’s a woke joke focused on ticking boxes rather than recruiting the best people

[@Michael-td3gz]

Why would foreigners join British army.. Especially on those pitiful wages..

[@OtisCarroll-id9kc]

You cant be serious. In the last five years they rejected 125000 appplicants (including me) so what is the point ot this video, they need to sort out their recruitment before they make videos like this imo.

[@jjmartin3020]

What did they reject you on mate if you dont mind me asking?

[@sebastianganga266]

Patriotism has been targeted as far right in all Europe during years and at the same time we live now in Multinationals without any identity, as a Spanish citizen I do not feel equal to the rest of the new Spanish citizen,passport holders,so I will never fight for a World like that.

[@Stupiditas-stupido]

Why would straight people joining the army

[@suzukigsxfa9683]

😂 yep everyone in the army is queer. Join the navy instead

[@paultopping7413]

I served 14 years part time Royal Engineers and loved it. What people forget is how much you get out of it in terms of your development, life skills and in business. A lot of the skills I learned at a young age from the army about presentation, organisation, logistics, discipline, tenacity and leadership gave me a distinct advantage in the work & business environment. And that is all side from the health, camaraderie and friendship benefits.

[@kaptinbarfbeerd1317]

No one is contesting that though. Its things likes unjust wars and putting your life on the line for a profit margin that's the problem

[@stephenwonghongweng4298]

Aweful pay no transferable skill into the civilian sector plus being detached from society at large with no support system after contract

[@EAWanderer]

Yes, I considered joining the British Army for a time in the 2010s, but eventually chose not to for a number of reasons. It's not only the UK, the USA and Canada are facing the same problem. Simply put, young people are not interested in ✌️ "spreading peace and democracy." ✌️ 😏 If peace were what politician's truly wanted, they'd stop bragging about military budgets! 2% gdp bla bla bla 🥱

[@ryeguy7941]

I thought about joining the Canadian armed forces back in 2014 when I turned 18, but thankfully, my parents talked me out of it. I wouldn't even bother joining it today.

[@Jh19999]

This isnt true. Its not that the srmy is attracting young people, its the government cuttinf the numbers 😂. And dont ask prople in a city like london where white british natives are a minority

[@AragornArathorn-i5e]

If they want you to fight for the rich and elite, at least pay better.

[@kdog-cd5iw]

@@AragornArathorn-i5e Here I am at 25 with a 3 bed house which I let out some sucker who is paying my mortgage, despite most of country living with their parents still at 30. And I have never even been in a war

[@pincermovement72]

Yes you would have thought being a mercenary would pay better

[@Maxrodon]

As someone who has studied history, our thankfully extended period of peace has come at the expense of forgetting just how frequent wars and battles are. Sure it’s good to be in a time where everyone is incredibly conscientious and don’t want to fight “wars for the rich” “they aren’t killers” etc. but just like WW1 and WW2 when the UK stepped in, it was heavily on moral grounds. And as we have seen recently, there are elements like ISIS, Putin etc which you sadly cannot negotiate with and war may be the only necessary evil to stop them. A sad reality is that in the real world we can wish for all the love and peace that we want, but some people and societies will never see it that way. My overall point, is that if as a society we can barely stomach the concept of fighting in a war while there are other societies that can, in the unlikely event we face such entities we are more likely to lose as a result. Never forget that part of what made ww1 and ww2 so devastating is not just the losses, but the fact the UK had so few "regular" soilders in their forces, that they had to lean on regular civilans to enlist. People who put their jobs and lives aside to undertake being a solider and going into combat. Those men were never soilders at heart but became soliders to protect their loved ones and their country.

[@ItsyBitsyChelly]

Very good comment

[@peterslinger3795]

Why join when you can play Call of Duty

[@VentureHolly]

Can confirm the last part about Capita. They trapped me in recruitment limbo for the better part of 5 years before I finally gave up.

[@alergictoginger1969]

I’m not dying to for the benefit of third worlders who i already have to work to house and support.

[@zapfrisco72]

As an ex service man I can’t even recognise the country we fought for anymore can’t blame the young real British men an women for not wanting to there second rate citizens now

[@danlamb1752]

I am currently applying to be in the army. The process so far, has taken 7 months. I am joining because I believe it is a man’s duty to defend the people he loves and the country he lives in. I understand people aren’t patriotic anymore and there are much better paid jobs out there. And the risk of dying for someone’s personal gain isn’t attractive lol I believe the problem facing the army is continued tax cuts. A big problem for recruiting is that the army offshored recruitment to a private company who are doing an utterly terrible job. The next few years are make or break for the army and in my opinion for the UK itself. If your still reading then thank you for listening and god bless my man 💪👊

[@fabonzanaon8177]

Yes, go off to die for people who hate you. Fool. What would change if the Russians took over the UK or made it their vassal? How would this affect your family? Not at all, maybe they would even be safer than now.

[@Myles0Harcourt]

Appreciate your commitment to your country; however, for whom will you be making it a better place?

[@carlgreene538]

In 1984 it was 200,000.

[@007nait]

Lol - good factual commentary! We should all understand how the sausages are made in the factories - wars , dominance , politics, do not follow straight paths but twists and turns.

[@michael5637]

I tried to join but Capita took a year to get me from the initial stages to a face to face medical. I failed on the face to face medical because they decided that me having depression in 2013 due to the death of my father was enough to discard me. Aside from that, as a straight, white, British male my government hates me. Let’s not deny it and call it a conspiracy, we all know it. Even if they accepted my medical, no chance would I rejoin. Get the DEI team to send in a load of non binary disabled activists instead

[@SelectiveStreets]

Also Capita is apart of the eligibility criteria to recruit people, they have a very high failure rate. It seems capita is liable for the candidates and is not willing to damage their insurance

[@JamesBeattie-lz9cc]

Because 1 half of the country feel no connection to Britain , infact quite the opposite… and the other half who does still love their country won’t fight for the people in charge …. Let’s be honest nowadays if you join the army you’d probably get called far right 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gazza9463]

Civvy street does not want machine gunners , so any young person who does sign up and stays, learn a trade. It will help you to gain employment in civvy street when you leave the forces.

[@bridgetown45]

That is an excellent reply. It worked for me and many others. The Army is not all guns and bayonets. Heck, we were upfront with the Infantry, looking after the repairs and maintenance of their APC's.

[@TheFatMan]

Coming home to find out the child isn't yours. She won't let you see the children hence you have to soend thousands in court fees, etcc

[@RyanGoslingthestonecoldsigma]

That’s very specific bro

[@nicksloan8860]

If the child isn't yours then surely there is no need to see them