Why are more people moving out of Massachusetts than in?

Massachusetts is seventh on the top 10 list of "most moved from" states. WBZ talked to some who left to find out why. WBZ-TV's David Wade reports.

[@Djinn871]

Spent 30+ years in Massachusetts. Moving next month. I hate everything about this state... The city... the people... the taxes... especially the scum that work for MassDOT.

[@slashmaster2]

So this was 2 months ago. Did you move ok? Where did you go?

[@user-nl8go3vu3k]

Taxes taxes makes bad living to all.other ways to provide services with less kinds of taxes.

[@user-nl8go3vu3k]

Mass has good schools- Hospitals etc.But it is time for better goverment organization.i like Boston a lot. I lived greater Boston 31 years. 1970 th 2000.

[@reverze_ebo8921]

Elaborate more on the people part please

[@claireconover]

it’s expensive (obviously)

[@JokersNtheOddball]

its a blank slate. a hint that we can be the first place to reverse such an economy if everyone stands up and works to help others through some sacrifice and our trademark intelligence. sadly, that intelligence has been muted by conformity to wealth in a lot of people's lives. but not everyone.

[@elzippo488]

@@JokersNtheOddball There's no intelligence in Massachusetts. You people keep electing Democrats and RINO's. How is that intelligent?

[@XxxXxx-br7eq]

​@@JokersNtheOddballintelligence is gone with the demographics

[@shawnsdrumcave]

As a life long resident of south coastal MA, born and raised I'd leave in a second if I could. While I do love this area and I could afford to It's hard to uproot your life and relocate, the cost of living here is just ridiculous. Lots of people are just stuck here, many people can just barely afford to survive here never mind save up to relocate... it just keeps getting worse and worse.

[@JokersNtheOddball]

when you come from money, you base your life on luxury, large homes, etc. when you have real hardscrabble roots in a place like the north shore, upper south shore or Boston its easier to find ways to stay. I cannot stand when people whine about the "cost of living". that's only because the culture of the particular area or individual is lacking. just leave. there are plenty of people who would rather work to change the economic situation for everyone rather than sit on their traditional idea of owning a home with a large yard in a "nice" area. just hurry up and move.

[@johnd.5601]

It's a trap. I believe most Americans would leave this country all together. That is why they constantly take our homes and retirement savings away. They keep us poor so we can't afford to leave!

[@massmikep4436]

Lived in MA 35 years. Leaving 2 years ago was the best decision I’ve ever made

[@SaxPanther]

I moved out of Massachusetts for work. And yes, my cost of living is lower too, which is nice. However, I do prefer Massachusetts and I plan to move back once I can get a remote job.

[@JacobyGlynn]

I am moving out can’t stand the crazy left

[@brightwinter9334]

Same here. That's why I moved out and not to NH.

[@aliens8544]

Definitely doesn't feel like it. Traffic is horrible. it's like a death sentence living here!!

[@robinswenson9045]

Im born and raised in Massachusetts it's expensive and there's some stupid laws who can live in a blue State I want to live in a red state

[@hollywoodjamesanderson]

I'm moving to Arizona, a purple state is the best of both worlds

[@Uver41776]

I am from Ma & I can’t even move out I have no place of my own to move out to or from! Any advice please comment 🙃

[@phongdao9239]

Work and save, while doing so, find balance for happiness till you can make a move. I'm from MA myself, it is expensive but I do still love it here.

[@ari-jv]

I want to move to mass seems like great state

[@MrSupernova111]

If you're really desperate to move then get second job and if needed use some of your retirement savings to make the move. Don't let anything stop you if that's what you want. Good luck!

[@JokersNtheOddball]

best place on earth@@phongdao9239

[@TheDel4873]

@@ari-jv it is beautiful, but VERY expensive. Taxes are through the roof.

[@catistrolling7333]

Boston is nice - traffic sucks and mbta is deadly

[@g1083]

Lol

[@JokersNtheOddball]

that's why I have rode a bicycle my whole life. im healthier, stronger, experience where I live up close instead of from inside of a box ALL THE TIME, my life remains centralized in the best place I could possibly live and it cost me next to nothing.

[@terrencemilton5088]

They starting to see the truth.

[@supportmytroups7]

I feel like moving out sometimes . It’s expensive and weather is bad.

[@marcelocardona1629]

Yea it’s getting kind of ridiculous I have no debt making around 100k still can’t afford a house. I don’t want drive Hr just to get to work. That ads up on gas money and if something happens to the car I can ride my bike take public transportation.

[@MrSupernova111]

$100k income with no debt is plenty for a house in MA. Maybe not in the most prestige areas of MA but surely enough for a house in the outskirts of Boston.

[@terrencemilton5088]

0:50 I actually do love Boston. Boston at night. Hanging out or even working at night in Boston. But what after I just went through....smh

[@denisethorbjornsen7493]

The rents in North Carolina $2,000 for a 3-bedroom 1-bath just not affordable

[@SorosGeorg]

$1000 a bed. BidenOmics

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

Would you rather spend $3200 for a studio in Boston? Come live in MA for a year and come back to me about affordability. lol

[@exitingthematrix6302]

In Massachusetts some one bedrooms go for about that much

[@JokersNtheOddball]

ha! anyone from up here would take that in a second... if it wasn't in a weird ass place where people talk like Neo rednecks, full of trees, wildlife and the more than occasional confederate flag...

[@eyesthrurosecoloredglasses]

Better than paying that much for a room with no private bathroom in Boston.

[@normanwyatt8761]

You can't afford to live here on a regular paycheck..........You have to be on welfare and get everything free...........

[@career5690]

Free? You mean everything for lower cost.

[@Gnomezonbacon]

Even that doesn't cover rent. I was on welfare and got everything for free and it sucked before I was working.

[@JokersNtheOddball]

try working your ass off instead. go to college. find solace in helping change the community and the world rather than personal luxury. everyone "can't afford" everything. welfare is for single mothers/fathers, you're thinking about ssi. at least try to get your facts straight before trying to say anything.

[@hollywoodjamesanderson]

Accept this "community" has made dumb voting decisions and messed up our laws, our constitutional rights get fucked on the daily ​@@JokersNtheOddball

[@johndoe-wv3nu]

​@JokersNtheOddball here's my fact. I went to college. I secured a great paying job. I bought a home. I got taxed out of Massachusetts! Someone has to pay for all the people on government assistance. When I found out my partner and I were both working FT. I was working 60+ hours a week. Then I learned if I was a single Mom with 2 kids I'd make more off the government than I earned working I was OUT. Left in 2017, not missing it, not going back. Life is so much easier, and more affordable in NC.

[@catistrolling7333]

Gangs

[@catistrolling7333]

Heat costs - utilities

[@katrinasavage7105]

that been a big one since i've been here for the last two years we just moved from ca

[@career5690]

@@katrinasavage7105 Go back to Cali.😂

[@virtualnewengland]

Yup, unfortunately it’s too expensive.

[@T-swizzle08]

Greedflation

[@wovfm]

Sanctuary State and a matter of time before Texas and Florida start sending the busloads of migrants to Boston, Northhampron and Cambridge. Look how they welcomed them with open arms in Martha's Vinyard (gone in 24 hours). New England needs its fair share of migrants, especially the sanctuary states.

[@johndoe-wv3nu]

Agreed. I'm from N.E. I had no idea what was going on at the border.

[@charlesrogers8420]

Too much group think.

[@Mackk-IX]

its un sustainable commute times and cost of living is hard especially for college grads

[@Dave-zl2ky]

Too many boomers per capita. They are leaving for warmer and cheaper locations.

[@catistrolling7333]

Taxpayers leaving immigrants coming in

[@Mr.JoeBangles]

The only good thing about Massachusetts is they have good hospitals and the cape is pretty. other than that's it's a pretty horrid place.

[@michaelwells7348]

Cuz tha Wetha. Sucks ...& tha ( ) Ain’t much Betta.

[@solomongrundy3411]

Asking why, means you're the problem. Gentrify somewhere else.

[@preshisify1]

🤔☕

[@nicholasthompson7690]

Cost of living

[@tarlisonandradesantos2989]

E Tione Tione Tione

[@thomasshoff6512]

In my opinion, cities breed many of the social issues we see as negatives in life. High density of populations create social tensions, to put it mildly. Those who are born in this environment accept the shortcomings but don’t know the differences. America’s values of self reliance, honesty, integrity, and religious freedom are best developed in areas where social issues are not so influenced.

[@JokersNtheOddball]

well, buddy... your "opinion" is the epitome of ignorance. suburbia is the problem. the high cost of the city is a direct result of those who hold stock, invest, commute by luxury car to cities to push keys behind a desk to keep people enslaved to manual labor. hordes of suburban people profiting off people they never understood... so its not surprising your kind are opinionated regarding subjects that have no room for "opinions"

[@justamaninTN]

⁠@@JokersNtheOddball I think you’re right. I live in suburbia and it’s a bubble, not real life. The big city life looks more appealing, day by day. Biggest appeal is getting rid of my stupid car.

[@JokersNtheOddball]

@justamaninTN thank you. Big cities have their problems though and cost isn't going to decline. It's a domino effect. Like even in the suburban/mini city ghetto outskirts of cmajor cities, what people are calling "gentrification", which is really just continuity... what was before unnoticed by them but always present in one way or another in our lives, is used to take the emphasis off people's personal introspection. The middle ground exists. I'm not from a well known big city, but I come from a specific place that is as city as it gets. North shore mass. Born in salem, grew up in lynn and the very center of the city of beverly. Pigeons outside my living room window roof with the ymca across the roof every morning before school eating cereal, homeless on benches outside my bedroom window 87 to 90. Beverly Hills was named after a part of beverly called beverly farms. For real. But back then poor people lived in the inner city areas, they kind of changed it, like Manhattan rent is unaffordable by anyone outside nyc and the poorest people don't live in les. They try to call ot gentrification but I've seen it my whole life. It's just segregation of the human spirit. We moved to nicer local suburb after we lived there and I learned young to respect people who were born into more money or opportunities and so I easily welcome people without the buffer of "gentrification". Punk rock is great example of how people are affected by this antithetical symbiosis for lack of a better word (sorry I'm drinking rn.) Kids who grew up keenly aware of the suburban scam, through whatever problems they had at home, listened to bands that educated them like dead kennedys, crass, the pist, operation ivy, etc. I've met people like that, could see how they're traumatized by "normalcy" but they tend to see what you were responding bout to begin with. I think the key is bridging the gap in all areas. I never had a car. I'm 42. I won't. I'm not buying gas from murderous governments, assholea who own the stations, stockholders, advertisers. ahhhh! Just talking bout it fucking makes me mad. But we didn't have a car til I was 5 or 6 I rode on my mom's bike on a baby seat. I know it's not the same.foe everyone. But I digress... my point I guess is spread through the above paragraphs and if it can be summed up, most people not born into this give up, but if it makes sense, sensible choices are the path to a Healthier conscience

[@elzippo488]

@@JokersNtheOddball Sensible choices lol! like continuing to vote democrat? You are a total ding bat.

[@Naturevsnurture86]

Why because it's too expensive unless you're a criminal or an migrant. It's deplorable qhats happened. If it was for good sure but it was a whole agenda.

[@NE-Explorer]

stay out of NH please

[@Mr.JoeBangles]

too late for that they've already ruined NH

[@TBLUNTZ420]

Because Democrats.

[@StarWorld2550]

Progressive Democrats

[@claireconover]

this area has plenty of trouble but that’s not one of its problems… that one’s strictly on you. you’re tribal and you need to get over it.

[@Jon_Nadeau_]

@@claireconover Thats definitely one of the problems here. Just look at this comment section haha

[@cmc6727]

Absolutely democrats have destroyed this state!

[@justamaninTN]

From all the data I look at, the taxes might be high, but you get a good return for the taxes in Massachusetts.

[@emmettwhite7254]

Born and raised in small town Massachusetts, save yourself and stay in TN. I loathe everything about this place

[@craigvogel2935]

I’m moving after thirty years the huge cost economically of the left wing politics has finally gotten to me as a reminder of my making a gooddecision when I went to list my house for sale I was told that I couldn’t say close enough to watch your children walking to school because the words. Walking triggers the disabled and you can’t say the word children because it’s not a family friendly something my disabled friend couldn’t stop laughing at the absurdity of it

[@writerconsidered]

I like this area but I would move if it wasn't for someone important in my life.

[@az0970449]

left there 28 years ago its a dump

[@joeyg.2953]

Because of the liberal politics and the high taxes. Meanwhile, people are flocking to places like Florida with lower taxes and an ultra conservative governor.

[@tarlisonandradesantos2989]

I'm from Brazil and I thought everything there was liberal

[@denisethorbjornsen7493]

I think Governor Haley needs to lower property tax housing cost too much and food and clothing cost too much

[@Gnomezonbacon]

She needs to gut the income tax too. They want too much of my money.

[@johndoe-wv3nu]

​@Gnomezonbacon someone has to pay for single Mom's and migrants to have food, shelter, healthcare, transportation etc etc. Now, figure out how much these benefits add up to. You will realize real quick you, as a taxpayer, are getting the shaft. I left in 2017 never going back

[@bog6106]

Its literally hell for someone like me on the spectrum. Plus all the services are 1 star for autism provided by state and should be illegal to treat autistic people the way the doctors here do. Thanks for misleading me with false hope just to ruin my reality further. I'm literally the same as everyone else except my sensory perception is more acute but get treated like I'm lesser being and have no needs other than needing more pills. If your autistic, have normal to above average intelligence then this system treats you like your a domestic animal. I would suggest anywhere but here to look for services. Don't know what rest of country is like but something has to be better than this

[@claireconover]

the grass is always greener on the other side… no matter where you go, it’ll probably be a challenge. in general, (I think) people still cater to the mainstream norm and not to the specific needs of special populations. they should be more mindful of special needs, but the general population doesn’t understand your struggle, therefore would be hard pressed to allot money for a fix.

[@bog6106]

@@claireconover My life is a misery endurance test. I cant even get out of bed anymore. I Cant cope with my life like others can. Thinking money is the end all be all is a toxic belief system while I sit in my room isolated because the world is too overwhelming and people feel like net negatives to me so I avoid everyone. People don't care, they just say they do. If money made the quality of my life better, then I would be working 7 days a week and would not sleep or ever take a break

[@michaeldunn8972]

I allegedly have Asperger's (on the spectrum) but not so far over that I have disabilities they medicated me 7 or 8 - 17 psychiatry is a fraud its the last thing you want. Why would I want to be like a people who are chronically ill, Harm avoidant, and have a 1.5 Birthrate. Normal ppl in Mass are sick I voted Trump twice Can't wait till we get more Diversity and can have an epic Sperm Competition to breed some better ppl.

[@Gnomezonbacon]

I'm on the spectrum too. Just the fact that Judge Rotenberg Center is allowed to exist is HUGELY offensive to me. That place is a legal Autism Aushwitz. Whenever I hear people here brag about how great our education system is my stomach turns. If this is the best we can do then I'm horrified. The education system made my childhood an absolute living hell because I didn't have the discipline of a Private 1st class when I was 5 years old.

[@johnd.5601]

There are better places! There aren't many places here in America. The doctors in America believe high stress environments are the solution. They actually believe that extreme pressure and neglect is the way to deal with these issues.

[@catistrolling7333]

Taxes and cops

[@TBLUNTZ420]

Cops?

[@catistrolling7333]

@@TBLUNTZ420 sure out here in my city handing out tickets at 9 pm at night cause you parked to close too driveway or not near curb and yet we have nothing but drugs and shootings-$$

[@cheaserceaser]

Cops are bad ppl

[@claireconover]

@@catistrolling7333 you sound absolutely terrible at parking… but otherwise, that’s kind of a fair point.

[@williamMikmaq222]

Keep voting Democrat....!

[@cheaserceaser]

Ppl are leaving MA because of Trump and MAGA ppl in MA

[@joeyg.2953]

😂. Mass is flooded with liberals. It's one of the most non trump states in the country. What do you live under a rock or something?

[@g1083]

🤡

[@claireconover]

nobody’s leaving ma because of trump… even if there are some maga crazies, it’s still a progressive state with progressive policies in place.

[@ari-jv]

@@claireconoveryes abortion is allowed

[@Brandiisbeloved]

no this is a very liberal state.

[@slashmaster2]

Really like what I'm seeing here! We beat California in top 10 most moved out of states! :)