Why are so many new cars being sold without a spare tire?

[@SummerSausage1]

A spare tire weighs 20lbs. Do NOT say it's to help fuel efficiency. It's purely a cost cutting measure.

[@jasoncrandall73]

Americans are getting fatter. 20lbs is 20lbs. 😉

[@jasoncrandall73]

That extra large meal with a diet soda is no longer working. 🤪

[@Allen-k6n1o]

🤑🤑🤑

[@Allen-k6n1o]

@@jasoncrandall73🙄🙄🙄

[@ytj22]

Automotive designers spends large amounts of time shaving individual grams of weight from their vehicles to help with increasingly rigid fuel economy standards and to leverage performance. Most definitely cost is a factor, it always is, but to dismiss 9000 grams so quickly is quite uninformed (especially when the weight can be removed so easily and quickly). Not to mention that a spare tire, with wheel and jack etc is often noticeably more than 20lbs.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

A spare tire should be made mandatory by law … it’s a safety issue 🤬

[@jeffclark5268]

Why? I’ve been driving for over 40y. I’ve never changed a tire through 9 cars, and innumerable miles in them, plus rentals. I have had about 4 flats. Aired them up, drove to a shop.

[@BubblesTheCat1]

It's definitely a huge safety issue. Stupid bean counters design cars nowadays 😠

[@ytj22]

@@Fabulousprofound168 90+% of the drivers I see nowadays can't even back into a parking spot without using their back up camera, you think they're going to be capable of safely changing a tire on a busy highway?

[@adamhuffman3354]

Jeff Clark drive through the Sahara without a spare! Go right ahead.

[@timbeatty11]

Taking it out was a regulation passed by obama that caused it

[@mattwaters6987]

Its ridiculous not supplying spare tires for new cars. Greedy manufacturers. 😮

[@paulstandaert5709]

That sounds dumb. YOU are paying for that spare tire either way. Or, just get a cheap compressor that plugs into the cigarette lighter for less money. Or hit up a salvage yard for a spare tire.

[@mattwaters6987]

@@paulstandaert5709 they're not giving you the option is my point.

[@ytzpilot]

Consumers have options vote with your wallet

[@timbeatty11]

Its a regulation passed by obama that caused it

[@davidchurchill1651]

That’s why u get “run-flat tires”, “self-sealing tires”, or tire slime.

[@raypemoller7069]

Spare tires should be mandatory!

[@Ilikeryche]

Learning how to drive should be mandatory too.

[@wturner777]

If you ask me, spare tires should not only be standard, but also mandatory.

[@Blahsheep]

30k for a Honda Civic. Doesn't come with a spare tire? Insane times.

[@fabianhernandez3126]

40k+ for a GMC acadia and terrain at the time we were looking for SUV. No spare so we purchase from another brand plus less APR.

[@davidchurchill1651]

That’s why u get “run-flat tires”, “self-sealing tires”, or tire slime.

[@mikethompson3534]

Don’t ever use tire sealant. They will destroy your tpms

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

Many cars sold without a spare have very poor reliability anyway. Something else is more likely to leave you stranded vice a flat tire so no reason to include one.

[@wturner777]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q Almost all manufacturers, including Toyota, started excluding spare tires on certain models.

[@NK-fe3md]

These companies are following Apple strategy. Remove a feature and sell it for extra.

[@jarose7396]

Not selling for extra, not even a void to equip a spare if you wanted to do so. There are some very long lonely highways around, and a flat could be quite costly. Had a car with no spare, got rid of it now have car with a spare that is even more effieient. They should at least SELL you empty space that you can choose to equip with a spare or use extra storage. Hmm wonder how much empty space costs to manufacture?

[@benhaze1010]

Not only that but now you cannot even package a spare tire on most cars since they reused that space for other purposes.

[@mrdave777]

Why does Apple charge over $1400 for a phone? Because they can

[@tomw7794]

Next they will charge a monthly subscription fee and you will need a Smart Phone to activate the compressor.

[@peachyclean93]

Right!!

[@timdowney6721]

The greed of businesses is totally out of hand.

[@timbeatty11]

Its a regulation passed by obama that caused it

[@gary094]

Why include a spare tire when they can force you to buy one.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

Don’t forget many cars don’t even have a spare tire well anymore so be prepared to lose your trunk space as well (eg. BMW)

[@larrycjost9388]

And Honda.Cibic. and Toyota Prius. And Hyundai Accent​@@Fabulousprofound168

[@alejandromorazan3420]

Of course BMW, trash will always be trash, expensive overengineered hard to repair and UNRELIABLE, ​@@Fabulousprofound168

[@davidchurchill1651]

That’s why u get “run-flat tires”, “self-sealing tires”, or tire slime.

[@alvilla701]

​@@davidchurchill1651 those tires are more expensive and give bad MPGs, also in many occasions, the tire is destroyed to the point where you must use an spare tire

[@robertmoura6336]

Pretty soon, you will pay for extra seats as it will only come with a drivers seat only😅😅😅😅

[@AaraMoon]

sadly you’re probably right 😅

[@dwaynepiper3261]

Don't give them ideas

[@dapperdingo]

And the air that passes through the air cleaner. They will be charging for that too.

[@AndreS_-df2nw]

As a gearhead and automotive minimalist, I'd be OK with only front seats. eliminate all the nanny devices too. No more video screens, radio is optional.

[@NasaRacer]

Dodge Demon!

[@davidmark866]

Another sign of the failing automotive industry. $60k and it doesn’t even come with a spare tire. Our ancestors would not buy this crap.

[@GO-cz7cl]

In the olden days that had to patch the tires when they went flat.

[@steven4315]

When my dad bought a new car in 70's he was told the tires were tubeless, he made them put tubes in before he would buy the car.

[@Richard-wl2nh]

the sealant might be ok if there is a puncture, if there is a tear, those are useless.

[@JackBlack-ii1ip]

Right, low profiles mean that you can't fit an inner tube. Call that progress, cos I don't.

[@jeremyashford2145]

It doesn't lower production cost. It increases profit.

[@tommysmith2409]

It's the same thing.

[@mikes1292]

Give you less and put the price up works well for the manufacturer

[@brinder.dhanoa]

GREED GREED GREED

[@kelceygerman1400]

Changing a flat tire should be part if drivers test.

[@oldschooldude3500]

Before you get a driver's license or graduate high school they should make you take a class in car maintenance 101. This class would teach you how to change and air up a tire. How to check all fluids, light bulbs, wiper blades, air filters, oil changes, fuel filter if it has one, cabin filters, and other basic stuff. Now days the schools districts want to cut budget and get rid of the automotive programs.

[@edwinrodeo]

Yeah especially if you’re handicapped, it’s funny watching a cripple trying to work on a car 🤪

[@janrdoh]

@@oldschooldude3500 That only makes sense if cars come with spare tires.

[@purplehazel2323]

I personally like the older cars with the bigger trunk that way you can put a normal size tire in there for when you have a flat.

[@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106]

Exactly!

[@Kingnome]

And more the one body😅

[@ThomasGriffin-zn1rr]

Lower the Cost yet still jacking prices up😮

[@michaelelliott2946]

Yep! Real sleezeball companies these days!

[@michaelmaycock5655]

Car manufacturers ARE'NT stopping giving spare wheels because they're heavy and they want to make the car more efficient. Simple truth is that they save money by not providing one whilst still charging the prices of when they did. It's just profit chasing, simple as that. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Phil-D83]

The law needs to be ammended to require a spare

[@nephilimshammer9567]

Engines blowing up on new vehicles now they wont give you a spare wakey wakey. We need to push back as citizens

[@user-cs3zs6jn1d]

As a mechanic I approve this message

[@mr.joshua2937]

Tell that to all the immigrants who don't care and just go out and buy a brand new 60+k car on there monthly child tax benefits, EI...etc government incentives.

[@ShimmySha]

Not going to happen when y’all keep voting the same current party in

[@RudolphoAqui]

@@mr.joshua2937 Yes, always blame everything on the immigrants

[@firedriver8367]

Please if you use the spare "Donut" tire , drive at the recommended speed. Called out to a traffic roll over on the freeway and the vehicle had a spare tire Donut on the rear and a witness said the car was driving at a high rate of speed around 75 mph and it just slid out of control and rolled over. These spares are rated not to exceed 45 - 55 mph , read the side wall and are meant for short distance driving. Drive Cautious ⚠️

[@bruceblackwell2205]

Yeah I always hated those donuts but at least having a donut is better than not having one at all

[@Ilkleyscot]

Limited to 50mph

[@FatLu-zu2fb]

Just buy one from a junkyard, they have thousands that have never been used.

[@lotsofcases6522]

Make sure it fits your car though and doesnt rub up against something like your brake caliper

[@TheJunior1964]

I went to the junkyard and bought a spare tire because wheter the original tire blown out and the road assistance sometimes take too long to get the customer

[@curtisi4403]

Remember you still need a jack and lug nut wrench. I also carry wheel blocks.

[@TheJunior1964]

@@curtisi4403 Yeah i have those too

[@st.charlesstreet9876]

@@curtisi4403GOOD POINT!

[@dbpike]

Important to also note: the patch kits also expire. We were driving with friends on a back country road when the tire blew. There was no spare and the inflater liquid was solid as a rock. Fortunately, we did have just enough cell phone coverage to have friends come to the rescue. So check your inflation kit expiration date!

[@FirstLastOne]

80% of drivers barely know how to drive and you can bet 95% haven't checked their tire pressure in over six months.

[@sarasotarides3416]

Yes and the auto shop’s 28 point inspection doesn’t seem to include checking the spare pressure.

[@oddities-whatnot]

I look at the MOT history of used cars and the amount that are failing or getting advisories for worn tyres is ridiculous. Drivers don’t seem to think about doing basic checks these days.

[@mrdgschmidt]

Definately not new to this, I too had to buy a spare tire kit to complete my vehicle and this was over 4yrs ago. I felt it's essential as I not only drive in urban areas I also travel in rural areas where shops and tow services are not redidly available. Cost me about $350.00 at the time but it's peace of mind.

[@paultaylor7082]

In the UK, we purchased a Ford Focus CC convertible, no spare provided. Cost of spare wheel? £65. Tyre? £60. Total cost £125. on a car that cost £18,00 from new in 2008.

[@solentbum]

Have you needed the spare?

[@Centauri27]

If it doesn't come with a spare, is there even space in the trunk to put the spare? Or just leave it to rattle around in the trunk?

[@mrdgschmidt]

@@Centauri27 My model, a 2016, already had the factory mounting for the spare.

[@Jessie-J]

I’ve had a spare tire ever since my love of donuts during the pandemic

[@JeffreyHAREWOOD-m5o]

Hilarious

[@prickly-x7o]

I will not buy a car without a spare.

[@mryan3123]

One thing about the tire sealant foam. If you don't drive a sufficient distance, the stuff will run to the lowest point inside the tire and harden. Then your tire will need to be replaced.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Ive had a few punctures and never used it, total rubbish.

[@Centauri27]

Somebody also noted it will wreck the tire pressure monitoring sensor.

[@adriannalundasan7570]

It gonna continue to happen until it reaches the point where they’ll ship out the entire car to you and assemble it yourself like IKEA. 😂

[@jvillebil13]

My daughter bought a Kia Soul and then she realized it didn't have a jack or spare. I ordered a doughnut tire on amazon and bought her a jack and wrench at a U-pull junk yard. Thank goodness a month later she had a flat in the middle of nowhere and I had showed her how to change it.

[@horacepierce9210]

My daughter also purchased a Kia Soul. I also purchased a spare tire for her.

[@oiler62]

I remember when you got the full size spare, then the donut tire, now nothing.

[@andynieuwenhuis7833]

I can remember When you'd have to put in an inertube, before you could inflate a flat tire, you mostly had to jack up the car by the front Or back bumper.

[@giotto4321]

Future plans: they sell you the donut and you then have to buy a car yourself that it fits!😂

[@SpreadEagled]

I just bought a new $75,000 Mercedes Benz C300 and it doesn’t have a spare tire! The dealer told me it has “run-flat” tires, so I don’t need it. (what?) Those “run-flat” tires are limited in speed and distance and are unrepairable. The dealer said that if I do get a flat, I have to drive to the nearest tire shop and order a new tire to be installed. Yeah? What if I’m on a road trip and the tire shop is closed? Then, I have to drive to a motel to stay for the night until the tire shop is open the next day? What if they have to order the tire specially for my specific car and it takes a couple of days or weeks to be delivered? That means I have to stick around for a couple of days or weeks? What a “slap-in-the-face” insult to me as a buyer of a prestigious $75,000 car! 😡

[@Fred-mp1vf]

Just wait till you discover that your Mercedes isn't built as well as my Toyota!

[@SpreadEagled]

@@Fred-mp1vf , You’re absolutely right! ☝️

[@johnstuartsmith]

Well, if it's any consolation, you won't have to worry about how your elegant $900 Ferragamo loafers could get scuffed or your prestigious $1,600 Brioni wool pants could get damaged if you had to change a tire out in some godforsaken rural district.

[@SpreadEagled]

@@johnstuartsmith , Or the threat in a gang infested, crime ridden urban inner city. You’re absolutely right!

[@giotto4321]

Yep, I feel your pain. Same for a used E-class I was very tempted by recently. No space in the boot for a space-saver spare so I told the salesman 'no thanks' and walked away to look at Volvos.

[@uziforyoutosay1749]

Fuel economy rating should be rated with max passenger weight.

[@ilanbandary4435]

No it shouldn't what a dumb statement 😂

[@PhaseSkater]

Weight only affects fuel economy in city driving too. Highway doesn’t matter. It’s all aero then

[@adelaferreira4575]

Never going to happened ,not even with the ac on

[@PhaseSkater]

@@adelaferreira4575 the epa does test cars with the ac on. Google how the tests are done

[@joecable39nc]

Its not practical for everyone but i always keep an air pump in my car and plug kit so i can pump the tire back up till i can get somewhere safe to fix it

[@michaelelkin9542]

My biggest issue is that they also took away the space for the spare without increasing trunk space at all. I would happily buy my own donut spare of full size spare, but it won't fit.

[@giotto4321]

I completely agree. A few weeks ago I was about to buy a used car then found out that even if I bought a space-saver spare myself, it wouldn't fit in the boot recess provided! Had to walk away from that sale purely because of that issue - thanks Mercedes!

[@davep4610]

It had been years since I had a flat, but this summer I got a cut in a tire which was not repairable. It was a Friday evening and I was basically in the middle of nowhere on a rural highway, 200 miles from home. Fortunately I had checked the air in my donut spare recently so I drove slowly (under 50 mph) home. If I had not had that spare tire then a tow truck or any other option would have been extremely expensive and time-consuming given where I was and the fact that it was Friday after business hours.

[@jackthebassman1]

I’m a disabled driver, I came back to my Nissan in the pouring rain I discovered a flat: I simply got out the tyre sealant, blew it up and went home. Believe me, far less trouble than attempting to change a tyre in the piddling rain, especially being disabled.

[@godfreyberry1599]

Try make the sealant work on a torn or shredded tyre which happens in 99.9 % of cases.

[@thomasschwarting5108]

So car manufacturers might give you an air pump instead. How does THAT make sense? If a tire going flat and doesn't hold air, how's an air pump supposed to help?

[@katherinelangford981]

Mine was losing it slowly. Every few days I had to pump it. I'd taken it in 3x before they finally found the issue. Kind of crazy. But yeah, now I have a pump in my emergency kit. I have had a large puncture, and in that case 100% useless. Needs repair or replace. I have an older SUV so I still have a spare full size tire, thankfully. Also, got CAA. My friend had a similar slow leak issue amd we had to pump every hour to get home 3 hours away. But we did.

[@Lucky8s]

To be fair, I had a thick needle like object puncture my tire and after inflating it, I was able to drive a little further to the closest tire repair shop. Obviously not a substitute for a spare tire, but it could help in some situations.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Keep inflating it until you get to a tyre repairer. Ive done that in the past, no problem.

[@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106]

I had owned a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville ssei. This car came with a spare tire and air pump.

[@AndreS_-df2nw]

If you're on your automotive game, just pick up a spare that fits at a local junkyard. Try it for fit to make sure. If you have space, a full-size spare is best. Then when you have a flat you can run it however long you have to until you can fix/ replace the tire.

[@chriskelly5430]

You pay a fortune for a new car and the spare looks like it came off a wheelbarrow.

[@m_lockwood-tj9kv]

A Full size spare went a few years ago in the uk,the donut went recently and you don’t always get an inflator.

[@johnmusgrave3179]

My car came with no spare at all so I've just spent around £140 for another wheel, a new tyre for it and of course a jack and wrench as those aren't supplied either. Now my car boot is full before I consider luggage, that has to go on the back seat.

[@ricosuave8123]

It won’t be long before such things as; _steering wheel, seatbelts and windows_ … will be extra “options” that you’ll have to buy when you’re shopping for a new car.

[@ilanbandary4435]

Stop being so sensational lol 2:37

[@jerryfacts9749]

If you use a can of sealant on your tire, it will damage the sensor for the Tire Pressure Monitor. It will put a sealant coating inside of the wheel which will have to be cleaned out with solvents. Expensive! Best to have a tire pump and a flat tire repair kit in your car. Pull out the nail or tack that went in to the tire, and insert the patch-string with the provided tools in the repair kit. Then re-inflate the tire with the pump. If you had nitrogen filled tires, you can go back to the garage that has the nitrogen machine and they can let out the air and fill the tire back with nitrogen.

[@CADILLACJames313]

Worst idea especially in the beginning of winter when most Flats occur. you get towed to the tire shop and you have to wait a day or 2 just for them to get to your car close the tire shop so backed up

[@SamBao]

I just bring a full size wheel with me, spare tires cannot go very far or very fast. if you are driving just slightly out side the city in the prairies you'd be hard pressed to find a tire shop, or, one that's open.

[@BubblesTheCat1]

I just keep driving my 23 year old Nissan Sunny with it's full size spare hidden in the trunk, underneath the mat. I also carry a 12 volt inflator pump, just in case the spare is low on air. Gives so much more peace of mind 😅

[@ronniel5941]

Here in the UK, it’s the same story, and if you’ve had to use one of these aerosol cans, the tyre has to be replaced. You also get three penalty points for a worn tyre, and lose your licence if you reach twelve - you get them for other things, too.

[@poorlittlebiker6476]

Backup cameras are required but not spares? Makes sense

[@papaw538]

If you have a mini spare, you should periodically check the air pressure. You don’t want to change your tire and find out your spare is flat as well.

[@jeretso]

It's been 20 years since my last flat tire. I used to get flats every few years. Tires are better quality and safety inspectors are strict. My last 2 flats were on low profile rims. Avoid low profile rims and cheap tires. Look for imperfections and take them back before the warranty ends.

[@Fred-mp1vf]

They did away with safety inspections in my state, which I think was stupid! I just replaced a paper-thin brake rotor on my friend's truck. I wouldn't let him drive it home before I checked his brakes.

[@sarasotarides3416]

Nails have a strange way of evading even quality tires. I always put on higher end tires on my cars and still end up with flats occasionally.

[@bryb2644]

I have not had a flat tire in probably 25 years. I know that I will have one now after writing this though and my car does not have a spare.

[@justincrossley1913]

It’s a cost cutting measure nothing more Next on consumer reports why your not getting a remote for your new tv you know that’s coming

[@timbeatty11]

Its a regulation passed by obama that caused it

[@HEHE-dx9og]

2016 mustang, no spare. Came with a 12 volt compressor with a cartridge of fix a flat built into the pump. Had to clean all that crap out of the tire when I got it fixed.

[@jinglejazz7537]

that's been happening for decades. they don't lower the price of a car without a spare. I remember when all new cars came with a big spare. always keep a can of flat fix with you, and an air pump. I had a flat on my 93 caddy this summer. the spare had never been used. I had to pump it up with my electric air pump and got home. my daddy always said. Always have a backup.

[@Fred-mp1vf]

If your spare is that old, it's likely to fall apart after a few miles. The molecular structure breaks down and it becomes weak. I learned that from experience. And mine was only 17 years old.

[@robertaviles8451]

Next - reducing weight by removing the Engine... (checks for engine... yes mine has one!)

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

"You're charging me for keys?" "How ya gonna start it?" Jerry Seinfeld to David Puddy _The Seinfeld Show_ circa era 1997

[@southwestsearch]

I've got a 2016 vehicle. It did not come with a spare tire. If I do install one, it'll be a donut. Where do you put the full size flat tire? Ridiculous!

[@fabianhernandez3126]

Before purchasing our 7 passenger SUV that was one thing I opened the trunck for. Wife was surprised that, that was very important to me. Yes it should be a standard across all manufacturers.

[@tonkeo9005]

Soon restaurants won’t give out utensils and you have to bring your own 😂😂😂

[@Romiman1]

And even there are cars, You have to bring Your own rear wiper*, stocks** or driver-display**... *Hyundai Ioniq 5 ** Tesla Mod.3

[@masterkevj23503]

It’s just cost cutting. It was a dealer option when I bought my car. Had to pay extra for them to swap out the tire inflator kit under the trunk floor for a real spare.

[@therealsimpshady1641]

Wife got a used 16 Rav 4 and I got a used 18 Camry. Both have full spares and kits. Shout out Toyota.

[@dombarnes7092]

It’s not there because of greed

[@alancadieux2984]

An on/off road vehicle, like most 4 wheel drive vehicles, MUST have a full sized spare tire, space savers are only for 2 wheel drives.

[@jordanking6939]

I remember when I rented a 2024 Toyota Prius 2 months ago. I had a flat tire in Los Angeles. The car came with a fix a flat kit along with an air compressor.

[@Martin_Romanowski]

Automakers greed is probably true answer Greed and nothing else Soon billionaires who owns car brands will say we will remove a/c for fuel efficiency

[@rattlesnake63]

It’s like companies charging $2.00 if you elect paper billing.

[@johnsullivan6709]

That's because it cost $2 to print and post vs email for nothing.

[@rattlesnake63]

@@johnsullivan6709 I’m sure they still claim the postage and cost to print write off on their income tax

[@WinningStrideFreePicks]

The worst part of this is the dealers not telling the customer this when they buy the car.

[@adelaferreira4575]

You should check if there is one when you buy the car !

[@JeffreyHAREWOOD-m5o]

Last year when I was doing this I asked, also got them to show me as well.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Customer must be thick if they need telling.

[@fluxcapacitor1621]

Check the air pressure in your spare tire at least once a year.

[@rpgvag]

I own a 2017 Acura TLX without a spare tire. It comes with a "Fix a flat kit" basically a temporary fix that only works if your tire is punctured. If your tire is popped you're screwed. If you want a spare tire they will sell you a spare tire kit at the Acura dealership for hundreds of dollars. Mind you that car costed at least 45K brand new

[@prmath]

Listen….. when you go in a dealership…… go thru 90% of the paperwork and ask just before signing, “does this vehicle come with a spare tire?” IF they say “no”…. Get up and walk out‼️ JUST THAT SIMPLE……

[@chadsmith7075]

"fuel efficiency" yeah ok

[@melgrant7404]

Well if you have a flat tyre that would definitely save fuel 😊

[@StrikeBuster-b2b]

As a teenager I had to use my doughnut tire. I was doing a burnout and it blew apart on me. I was stranded at a friends house.

[@brucemaher7621]

Spare tyre....NO ......SPARE MONEY FOR THE MANUFACTURE

[@Josh-yr7gd]

If they only knew how many times I've had a flat tire, including blowouts on the highway. I will NEVER buy a car that doesn't come with a spare tire. Yes, I'm looking at you, 2023-2025 Honda CRV Hybrid!

[@tvted6160]

Greed. Simple. No need to over think it.

[@axjason]

Reducing weight yeah a 50 pound tire having that much impact on gas mileage what a bunch of crap it’s all about cutting costs having a spare tire not having the jack to go with it that cost a lot of money whether it’s one dollar or $300 pinching pennies in anyway possible for the corporate executives to make more money than they can ever use

[@Thunder_Dome45]

Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with gas. I was surprised it didn't have one. There's an air pump. Somebody didn't think that through and now there's no spot for a spare if I buy one either.

[@horacepierce9210]

My daughter bought a Kia Soul that came without a spare tire. I was able to purchase her one from the Kia dealership, and there was a spot in a well to store it.

[@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart]

Negotiate it with your sale. They’ll give it to you

[@ernest5171]

They call that corporate greed

[@tsangdennis1953]

Make the dealer to provide one or else don't buy from it. Money is in our hand

[@WheelieMacBin]

If you use the tyre sealant it ruins the tyre. You will then need to purchase a new tyre, and that can be very expensive.

[@lightmagnet1961]

My work bought dodge promaster citys that didnt come with spare tire or equipment. When we tried to get the spare tire holders that go under the back end they were on back order for months. Then the jacks were three months to get. Unbelivable!!!

[@dperreno]

I'll be the contrarian. Tires are MUCH more robust today than they were 50 years ago. Most tires can take a nail and still hold air - the TPMS will let the driver know that the pressure is low giving them time to drive to a garage or tire shop to have the tire fixed or replaced. The reality is that 98% of car drivers today would not even know how to remove the flat tire and replace it with a spare so they would be calling for help anyway. Although this used to be a BIG DEAL (100 years ago, cars used to carry 2 spare wheels/tires!), it has now become more of an edge case, something that most drivers will encounter only once every 5 or 10 years. Not worth it to provide a full-size spare tire, or even a mini-spare anymore.

[@patty109109]

Possibly true. I go many years between flats, and most even then are only very slow to lose air.

[@davep4610]

I disagree. Without at least a donut spare, this summer I would have been stranded 200 miles from home on a remote rural highway where I was probably 100 miles from the nearest tire shop. And it was Friday evening when a tire shop might not be open until Monday. Of course, the donut spare is not designed to drive 200 miles but I didn't have a choice. Pissed me off that the dead real tire would not fit in the compartment where the donut is stored. If I had had a bunch of luggage I don't know where they think I could have put the real tire that was flat. If a car at least has a spare that fits, then any tow truck driver or halfway mechanical person can swap on the spare. Without a spare, but with a bad flat, you have no choice but to get towed somewhere and wait for business hours.

[@MrCasablanca82]

I got rid of my BMW because it had run flat tyres with are a complete nightmare. ow both my cars have a spare. Mazda and an older Lexus, hope the new Lexus still have them.

[@darrenpaches3731]

This summer while driving from High Level to Edmonton, an 8 hour drive, had a flat south of Slave Lake. Luckily my wife's 2021 Buick Enclave had a spare donut and got me to Edmonton, still at highway speed.

[@MacHill-n2v]

I just took my 1988 Toyota pick up on a 900 mile trip. It has a full size spare and a carbureted engine. It got 22- 23mpg with a 300 pound motorcycle in the back. In those days, a “stripped” truck didn’t have a radio, cigarette lighter, mudflaps, and rear bumper. Those cost extra money. 😂

[@alwynsmit3546]

I've bought many cars & I always inspect them. If there's no spare & the seller refuses to include one or drop the price, I walk away. Simple as that

[@jaisabai4155]

Cost saving. Full stop.

[@marcturner5809]

It’s greed

[@matrix-fh9tn]

I roadtrip a lot so spare tire is a must have item. That's why I bought a new car with spare tire a year ago. Heck, I even replaced donuts with full size spare. I lost 25lbs so my mpg is about the same with full size spare tire. Lol.

[@grantgamble7859]

Hi, In Australia you must have a spare for the car, to be roadworthy [ to be able to drive it legally]

[@damianleah6744]

They being tight fisted. I purchased a space saver for my new car separately online. I’ve used those spray foam things and they are horrible. Plus you need a new tyre with it when you get a flat.

[@williamjones7821]

Starting in 1998, the spare tire area (usually in the trunk) was no longer required to be big enough to handle a full-size tire that went flat. Be careful -- "donut" tires rot after a number of years. I was able to get full-size stamped steel wheels for both of my 91-02 plastic Saturns. Full-size spare takes up space in the trunk -- but I am protected.

[@InfoSecGuardian]

How would someone not know if they have a spare tire and if it's full size, a compact size, or one you fill with a compressed air can? What kind of drivers do we have out there? And if they don't know this, I would guess when they are checking tire pressures they totally forget the spare. Wait! Maybe they never check their air pressure too!

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

I suspect it is because the way the All Wheel Drive was designed, and a Different Size of a Spare will Damage the Drivetrain

[@horacepierce9210]

Actually it's more of the lower priced cars where the spare tire isn't included. These lower priced cars aren't generally all wheel drive.

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

@@horacepierce9210 My Cadillac XT5(AWD) only had a Spare Tire as a $400 Option

[@pincermovement72]

I have an all wheel drive Rav 4 with a space saver tyre .

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

@@pincermovement72 Rav 4? Domestic or Foreign?

[@OG.551.98]

Make sure to check every 3 months the air in the spare!!!

[@tommysmith2409]

Not having a spare tire is profit going to the bottom line.

[@kenfrank2730]

There is a company called Modern Spare that sells those small donut tires & wheels. You can check and see if they have one that fits your car.

[@Ilikeryche]

I'd trade most of the electronics in modern vehicles for a full sized spare tire all day long.