Why are TDX's event towers SO AWESOME??? Yet Disappointing? | Mini Video Essay

[@NotOofLegacy]

this video is peak 🙏 also, even if the event towers were to not get a second path, i think they should still have something i like an extra upgrade level or 2. John has mentioned in devlogs that the reason event towers only have one path is so that they can be more specialized. While I think that's true, I think they would feel more specialized if they had 6 or 7 levels, as opposed to only 5. Either way, i wouldn't mind them having 2 paths either Amazing video and thank you for bringing attention to this lol

[@AuthenticSaltz]

Man I need to get you on for an interview episode here soon. Love your takes my man!

[@NotOofLegacy]

@@AuthenticSaltz 👁

[@LDNinetyNine]

@@AuthenticSaltz mind if i join in

[@trashedx6691]

justice for cyroranger and not a reskin

[@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff]

Ngl she needs a reworked as no one ever uses her due to the fast that ranger is straight up better

[@24_7grind]

​@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ffpeople use her on impossible maps to beat expert 💀

[@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff]

@@24_7grind yet that's rlly the only case ya use her, other than that I don't see her being used at all, while the other event tower's has plenty of uses

[@Hungary_0987]

@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ffthat makes her usefull. Unlike bottom path missile trooper.

[@24_7grind]

@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff its useful for expert early game and its a good thing in has ice type damage it will not kill multiple and has ap agents Armor fellas Man thats a lot of yapping

[@PHOTON.thief.]

you know a yter is good when they got: the crappy microphone the cool commentary the cool/small game they like

[@mage_mini1945]

And the video isn’t 15 minutes about one topic *COUGH COUGH* Wikia Colors *COUGH COUGH*

[@AuthenticSaltz]

Saltz mic goes crazy

[@PHOTON.thief.]

@@mage_mini1945 ahem *COUGH COUGH*

[@PHOTON.thief.]

@@AuthenticSaltz real

[@childmanmanreal]

Nothing will beat the flame trooper in tdx for me, the tower looks awesome at levels 4/5, the fire effects look SO GOOD, and the fart ability is hilarious

[@AuthenticSaltz]

@@childmanmanreal yeah I love flame trooper, TDXs flame visuals always looked good

[@greenfighter6911]

Great video as always Just some thoughts about the topic: 1. I don't get why they locked a fire tower behind a limited battle pass when it's a tower with a rare damage type that doesn't get used often, it will be interesting though what they will come up with for a shop fire tower. (Also for the second path of flame trooper he could be able to burn off the stealth of enemies that would be cool) 2. I remember John saying somewhere that he only added one path for event towers to make them situational so they aren't used everywhere, but that being said i sltill think they should add two paths because it's one of the things tdx is known for. 3. just a thought but what's the point of upgrading scarecrow for more health if it if it gets one shot by any attacking enemy after early game, so to add on this I think the second path on scarecrow should explode and deal damage when it dies.

[@williamtai2148]

Actually maxing scarecrow used to give a 5 percent damage buff around him, however John remove the buff since it's just free 5 percent buff, at the same time it can be overshadowed by sentry due to rebuild

[@DiamondDestroyer-ni4ll]

Scarecrow dealing death damage is an amazing idea honestly and I would love to see that, but idk how useful it would be since outside of the halloween event the only towers that attacks are minibosses and bosses, and a bit of death damage wouldn't do too much to them/there would be better and more consistent options

[@SomethingBoutEclipse]

I had the idea of giving Scarecrow the ability to 1 attack guaranteed, becoming invulnerable for a short time after reaching 1 HP

[@oelieboelie4159]

I completely agree, especially with the disappointment of the event towers only having 1 path. I think Flame trooper and relic have a lot of potential for a second path + a tower not having 2 paths in tdx is just throwing one of the core aspects of the game away (excluding the tower battles towers + scarecrow). Great video!!

[@RaymarNascimento-vf8nf]

event towers will only have 1 path to make them more unique

[@oelieboelie4159]

@@RaymarNascimento-vf8nf Though it might make them more unique it still takes away a core aspect of the game!! + it makes them boring

[@Flagof]

Honestly I feel the disappointment in the towers not having multi path, there as so much potential for the flamethrower and the relic to have multi paths that could interact with the game, like how the relic could have had it to where one would be focus on the overseer and another path could’ve focused on more minions like a unit that sets little traps or turrets as they walk down the path and a another type unite that could be a mortar where they will walk down the path and occasionally shoot a large whatever at the enemy’s and so on. -Edit- After watching the video fully, I have hopes for these towers, as I know they rushed them to reach the dead line but I hope they find these kind of videos to take some ideas for event towers, and if we’re really lucky enough they’ll add them further down the line as we’ve seen with tds where event towers are touched on or reworked completely so I believe that they could add these ideas in later updates when they have a full stable team and honestly I want to hear the ideas for more units to the relic or ideas on what could be done for the already existing units.

[@Sliceyblade]

Or a relic unit that spawns more units

[@Exzequiel1203]

Imo, the TB event towers (zed and commander) are the only ones that should have one path and not the others (just my opinion)

[@Flagof]

@ exactly what he said, they are an exception as it’s staying true to their roots and should not be used as an excuse to make event towers a single upgrade path, and I hope they understand the ideas the community has to easily give them the other patches to these event towers to show their full potential.

[@PatrykPer]

John said that all event towers, mabye with an exception of a few. Will have 1 path. This is to make them more unique and specialized, it also saves development time and adds room for them just to make a seperate tower instead. The reason cryo ranger has 2 paths is because when it was released, they were still working on a 1 path system.

[@johanabintimohd.aminyeopon701]

well it's too bad that John probably won't add 2 paths for the event tower maybe there is a special case on some future events tower who knows?

[@4dstrawberry-l9z42f]

overall I agree, but here are some other suggestions for secondary paths. Scarecrow: First path: High bait range of like 25 or something but also gives a buff to nearby towers that reduces their chances of being targetted. second path: low range of around 10 or something but when bosses or enemies are in range, their chances of targetting the scarecrow are like 90% or something.

[@Nikoblu_tdx]

Good idea but its def not happening john said from now on every event tower will have 1 path and cryoranger was an exception

[@4dstrawberry-l9z42f]

@@Nikoblu_tdx wasted potential icl. Fair though, imagine every event tower had 2 paths, that would take forever to code in. Maybe once john realizes that having only one main coder is dumb, they'll be able to push out two path event towers.

[@rrounderr]

Love the take! Here to show support ❤

[@24_7grind]

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[@spotpower208]

What I really like about your videos is that they are short, simple, and also get the point across and this video is no different. Of course the interview video with The Gee J was long but that makes sense. Keep up the great work! 👍

[@AuthenticSaltz]

my goal is to make both long and shortform content, so Im glad your enjoying it!

[@Введитеимя-н3к]

Насчет нижней прокачки Flame trooper. Нижней прокачкой может быть термобарический боеприпас. Получится что-то вроде 2-4 Missle trooper, только с огненным уроном и возможно большей площадью урона. Больше дальность и урон по одиночной цели. Также было бы неплохо иметь stels detection на прокачке 0-5. В итоге получается 2-4 ПОЛЕЗНЫЙ Missle trooper со stels detection. В дополнение у него можно было бы убрать damage debuff ко врагам, но добавить небольшой stun примерно на 0.25 или 0.5 секунд, разумеется без игнорирования stun resistance. P.S: I'm too lazy to translete this all. I hope you tube translater can translate this properly.

[@Scrufus]

relic gets a rework soon yippeeeee

[@Multieyed-Almagamation]

thanks screwfuss

[@Geo-ku1ql]

Thankie, will The Wretched be updated too?

[@dudeguy45]

i can see how you see how disappointing they are, but like. their models and abilities are so good! but, because there is no multipaths its very stale and 1-dimentioned. so i can honestly see how your take on this! lovely video man! 👍- another idea: the 2nd path of flametrooper, it would give it this flame cannon, swapping the high fire rate for the single shot but powerful ones, kinda like a fire railtrooper?

[@AuthenticSaltz]

I totally agree - my biggest stance is what is there is super awesome its just what isn't there that I dislike.

[@dinofan38343]

The 2nd paths that I think should be on flame trooper and relic Flame Trooper: 2nd path gets Molotov's that act similar to rangers m203 incendiary Molotov's will be able to spread fire damage to enemies that are too close to each other The 2nd path will also ignore flame resistance Relic: (First off for the 1st path I think all the units should be heavily buffed as you level it up so they will actually be useful instead of being thrown away when you get overseer) 2nd path goes for more of bottom path barracks style having a lot more troops and quicker spawn times We will get a 2nd unit that acts like the dread knight in chapter 3 which will be very tanky and can stun enemies Another unit will act like a necromancer being able to summon other units that are sort of like the wraiths from chapter 3 (however it will be balanced so that it has a cap for how many units it can spawn) The last upgrade will be expensive and will heavily upgrade all the units and will also unlock a sort of mage unit The mage unit will be act as a support unit being able to heal damaged units, increase their walk speed, as well as unstunning units that get stunned

[@Rotonfriend2000]

I really wanted relic to summon like just an actual boss with a health bar, multiple attacks, and everything (of course with a 1 at a time limit) it wouldve been pretty cool and unique I hope the relic rework will give it 2 paths, lile barracks with one path having a boss (less allys but more dmg and hp), and the other is just the current spam

[@Dr_DeliXP]

Hey, while I was watching your video, I was reminded of some ideas that need to be considered. 1: Is it worthwhile to work on event towers 2nd path during the development of the entire event or be stuck balancing the tower a few times due to later added 2nd path? 2: How will players obtain event towers after the event ends? I am still considering the TBZ approach. 3: We need to try giving flamethrower 2nd path thermobarics and see what to do from there!!!

[@MordexJV]

I didnt play tbz very much, why do you think that ,could you explain

[@minerdxxd733]

​​@@MordexJVthe tower blitz method doesnt remove the tower completely after an event instead they give a different way to unlock it by doing specific requirements, no robux to skip either

[@torned2536]

Unique my ass. Having one path just makes event towers lame.

[@Dr_DeliXP]

​@minerdxxd733 Almost exactly as that, though the players who've beaten the event gain access to exclusive skin for said event tower. Anyways about if it's applicable to TDX, I was thinking of it like a side quest that requires you to beat a line of maps with such loadout with specific modifiers while collecting easter eggs during the process to "find" the lost event tower. Absolute pain to do but I am just rambling my fantasies if you read to this point and has slim chances of being applied. Most likely it's just beat such difficulty with modifiers like in TBZ or do tasks to unlock it.

[@syep12]

Yes, it is worth delaying the event for the second path event towers. Balancing is not too difficult anyways

[@ARandomDood]

An idea I recently came up with was to keep the regular flame trooper path as the top path and make the bottom one focus and long range and putting a long afterburn effect on enemies with a slow firing rifle with incendiary bullets, could also give the enemy is fires around 40% damage vulnerability while the duration of the afterburn.

[@Atmxx1002]

I think all of the event towers are pretty cool, but a lot of my issues are with relic. To me, the model of the tower itself feels kinda bland, they should maybe add particles to it to make it look cooler, but also the units have alot of issues. To me, the units feel kinda bland and don’t pop out at all, and overseer, despite its massive health pool, I’m still kinda unfazed by it. It dosent really feel special and in reality, all it is, is a massive damage sponge. John did say he wanted to give the players something that had boss levels of power, however when I here boss, not only do I think of high hp, I think of attacks and abilities, which overseer has none of.

[@Israelthewhiteespy]

To early to complain for relic but hey give it time. It's being reworked

[@Atmxx1002]

@ ik it is. Hopefully it actually does address relics current shortcomings cuz it has the potential be an amazing tower, they just need to iron out the issues relic has at the moment

[@AuthenticSaltz]

I think overseer def needs some fixing. That being said I love the other relic units.

[@Atmxx1002]

@ yeah, really excited to see what Valkyrie does

[@1000HR_Earthmover]

Fire is nice ice

[@uhcats2]

This video is so right i have nothing else to say it would be better to get towers with 2 paths it makes them more fun to play and obtain

[@e3breadman5843]

Great video saltz personally I don’t dislike the one path on event towers but I wouldn’t dislike the idea of second paths on future event towers but what I would like personally is a special 6th upgrade with stats or boost it could give to towers or its own special ability but still would open to the idea of having second paths on event towers like cryo ranger 👍 nice video maybe this will make the people who call you a “glazer” to be quiet don’t let them get to you brother keep doing what your doing 😁

[@yokaijunkie1261]

Cool vid! I personally am very excited for the relic rework but i also get why the event towers only have 1 path so imagine you are like a new player and joined a bit late so you can't get the event towers anymore so if it would have 2 paths newer players miss more content than they would have to so if you put more content into an event tower more content would be missing for newer players ofc i would also like second paths but like you have to take the new players also into a count thats why im not that dissapointed that the event towers only have 1 path👍

[@RandoDudle]

good video, hope john sees it

[@Mohammed_Aly]

What I personally don't like about the flame trooper being an event exclusive tower is that, flamethrower towers are generally common towers, the only proper way to get a flamethrower in tdx is the patrol boat which is not common due to requiring water. I hope John finds a way to keep the flame trooper as a regular permanent tower and replace it with something else.

[@amsal12]

The only thing im pissed off about is that when TB event ended, they replaced it back to the christmas event instead of just keeping the TB map and removing the battlepass. They might do the same thing to the Halloween event. Hopefully the big metal door in the hub becomes an event haven for those who couldn't experience it or just to play for fun.

[@gamerrblx3763]

I don't think scarecrow needs a path especially for a bait tower

[@Athazaline]

I like that you gloss over both the good and the bad sides of things, it is refreshing to have neutrality in a world of "XXX is bad, XXX is good." Good video.

[@ariel-zw7nj]

Which one is the good one and one is the bad one? (I have no idea what the hell did i just say😭)

[@Athazaline]

@@ariel-zw7nj He glossed over the good things about event towers such as their purpose and their uniqueness. He also talked about the bad things about the event towers, such as them being a singular path.

[@24_7grind]

John has said that event tower will have only 1 path to make them more unique and cryo ranger she is just an support ranger

[@igorkardyna5958]

Thing is, it makes them less unique

[@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff]

@@24_7grind I don't rlly see the "unique" thing about cryo ranger as she's just ranger but freezes enemies, and normal ranger in my opinion is just better

[@24_7grind]

@@SmilingRollingHills-ul2ff when did i say cryo ranger is unique And which one is better than idk i have seen people use it on impossible maps solo expert

[@AuthenticSaltz]

So to my knowledge he only said that about TB towers. That being said I still stand by my opinion of towers should have two paths.

[@ilastv]

@@AuthenticSaltz he said that on his halloween dev stream that event towers (minus cryo ranger) will only have 1 path

[@markoivanov3076]

I don't really like the fact they made a tower like flame trooper a limited event tower unlike other tower defense games where you buy it It also just doesn't really fit the Halloween theme of the event so it's sad to see such a must have tower be a limited event tower that new players can't get

[@AcHive6266]

Maybe the second path for flame trooper could have a oil dump ability where it drops oil on the track that it lights up and can spread to other enemies

[@no.showlol]

The reason john made them have one path is he stated he wants event towers to be specialized and to have one path

[@zaak3387]

I was talking abt this in the tdx discord server and I got shit on because "why cant you become a devoloper yourself"

[@r_vn2780]

Tbh I feel like they could’ve executed relic’s max level better, it is the one thing Im desperate hoping they rework. Im a huge spawner fan in fact I would’ve been fine with relic if the last level wasn’t boring. Don’t get me wrong the thought of having a boss on your side is extremely cool but some random guy running with endless mode hp ain't it, it feels more like something u see on wave 69 or post wave 80 rather than a full fledged one with love and care like their other boss (except the april fools one). When I think of spawner with an extremely expensive last upgrades (not using bliss of finality as an example), the first thing that comes to mind is the Doomspire Defense spawn with Sword master making an entrance and feeling like an actual boss attacking and summoning his units or Tower Battle graveyard where Jack shows up like the messiah and solo lategame with every unit before getting a glow up. I feel like John could come up with something better than the ones I listed. I hope John cooks up something far better than my expectations or I'm expecting too much for the last tower in the battlepass.

[@blankforgot]

i'm no design expert but i think it'd be cool if relic reused enemies from all the chapters (although with that relic-esque look). maybe a (obviously weakened) ravager/striker, a battlemaster/pathfinder tank, an executioner, etc. maybe even upgrading previous units at max level like the Graveyard, so regular villagers are replaced by the heretic. obviously not all of these at once, unless the aim is to make it specifically for endless because the price would have to be huge in any case, here's hoping the relic rework will be awesome

[@TotallyNotSnowy.]

What about barracks from doomspire defense because it basically has the boss from yellow mode but i do agree that doomspire defense has the nice detail on max lvl spawn.

[@CrimzenithTheTheorist]

chill out relic is getting reworked xd

[@thelastlordguy4311]

My theory is that both relic and scarecrow will be limited while the flame trooper is basically a reward for getting them before their official release Flametrooper will get their deserved second path after this event

[@spidercatgaming3229]

I think the 5% DMG should be more like "Enemies who attack this tower(scarecrow) take 5% extra damage."

[@discountimportant301]

this guy is gonna get like 100k subscribers this is so good

[@Why-Just]

I agree they should give Cryo Ranger 3 paths

[@MrBlue-to7ii]

Naw, Cryo ranger needs 4 paths

[@Demolitionidiot]

​@@MrBlue-to7iiShe needs 5 paths.

[@Gothems_Worst-_-7711]

Nah, she doesnt need four paths. She needs 10 paths!​@@MrBlue-to7ii

[@dinofan38343]

@@MrBlue-to7ii make that 7

[@AuthenticSaltz]

TDX needs to add an algorithim powered by AI that can procedurally generate paths for cryo ranger, therefore, giving it infinite paths

[@blockerton0]

when im watching another video i instantly stop to watch yours when the notification appears

[@drwhatnick]

Pretty sure john said every event tower will be one path

[@jfleocadio4397]

100% agreed flame and relic should have 2 path's.

[@fireyhitmyfuse]

Relic should keep one path but have extra upgrades where you can add the golem and mage unit as upgrades

[@i_like_roadblocks]

6:41 remember, scarecrow is a rank 3 tower dont make it too op

[@vyron-topic9592]

I think scarecrow slowing down enemies would be pretty good as well

[@yassinyahia8785]

Good job your videos are amazing

[@Averge_Crim_Fan]

I feel like TDX has so much potential but they're kind of wasting it, while they could easily act upon it and fill that potential, but I think there main problem Is that they don't really listen to there fans AT ALL, a suggestion channel with admins/mods filtering them would be great and do actual wonders and help with balancing majorly and even give john and the dev team a few ideas.

[@manhello-h5y]

cryo ranger:ranger but ice Commander:literally commander in tb but gives damage buffs instead Zed:it's just zed from TB Scarecrow:literally useless and straight up wastes a tower slot(the bait doesnt work on certain attacks for example you wont be able to bait engineer's minigun attack entirely) Flametrooper:it's basically the generic pyro tower from any other td game Relic:it's Graveyard from TB except the last level is much more overpriced

[@PatrykPer]

Scarecrow isnt useless, like its useful for events and mini bosses

[@PhazerDoesStuff]

i think tdx might be a continuation of tb ngl

[@Polaraisc]

The way you said that kinda feels insulting ngl

[@jacobnoob1829]

Dumb opinions

[@dinofan38343]

Cryo ranger is able to help with impossible maps with its reliable fire rate on top path Commander is a really good support tower with lots of range and a few offensive abilities that aid it Zed is really good for shredding game modes like expert Scarecrow is currently the best bait tower and it carries in game modes like chapter 3 Flame Trooper is also good on impossible maps and can apply extra damage to enemies without the need for micro (also good crowd control) Relic is . . . kinda mid rn ngl however it is getting a rework (and it better be a good one)

[@eradicatorishere]

john did say that event towers would only br getting one path to make them stand out from other towers

[@Apexpredator-w5z]

Petition to make cryo ranger ignore ice resistance

[@CheeseChao]

I personally disagree with idea of giving event towers a second path as it would take more resources and ideas for something that will ultimately be limited. Event towers are already an iffy subject. They’re great to bring hype to an event but they can annoying when new players see that they were limited time, and variety is really the backbone of a TD game like this. So giving said limited event towers even more opportunities just seems like a stretch. The resources and ideas that would’ve been used to make that 2 path could just be put into a permanent tower that everybody would be able to use years from now.

[@alienz163]

Bro it's me again, frosty great video btw keep it up man 🐋🐋you should make a video on night 4

[@Stufforsomething1]

Ur content is pretty good ngl

[@Rip_death2.0]

So if you didnt know,john did say, the event towers from now will have only one path so they are special

[@AuthenticSaltz]

Im aware he said that, That being said I fail to understand the logic of less content meaning more special.

[@WillenChan]

1:00 top path slammer:

[@imincriticaldebt1302]

Bottom path mine layer as well, and I guess Bottom Ranger (even if the fire damage is pitiful)

[@AuthenticSaltz]

They HAVE fire damage but arent a dedicated tower.

[@MarivicPeji]

We just need relic rework or better buff.

[@Awesomesauce-11]

The overseer was underwhelming when i first got it, i thought for 400k and it having 100k hp i thought i would be getting a spawnable boss lol

[@YoshiSaikono]

Money Man approves of this video and wishes that event towers were better o7

[@TotallyNotSnowy.]

Ice or cyro ranger(whatever you called it) has prob the better obtainment than rest but isn't sadly that good although it can damage units with bullet resistance. And the zed,relic and flametrooper are uhhh prob the worst obtainment in td history.... it's basically like if tds made bp 2x times longer and added harvester as final reward(basically how relic feels like=grindy as hell) ik that people will just get tower and leave but it's not a good reason to make the battlepass very grindy making it really demotivating to grind knowing that you just end up playing solo anyway after grinding hours on event (mostly solo)

[@namlin]

Idk i just quit the moment i saw they added a battlepass to get the towers

[@Random_-ky3li]

I feel like its rather the opposite for me, considering how rushed relic was, scarecrow was literally just straight from tb, and flame trooper just feels like a normal tower thrown into the event so john can say they have 3 towers Alongside bait towers just being SO BORING, this games tower deaths mechanic feels extremely underbaked since the only counter to it is literally just spamming, which isnt hard, that and medic as a whole just make the mechanic feel redundant. Wtd, for example, to counter tower deaths, have bait towers alongside tanks to stand there and has extra aggro so enemies will focus those first, also saboteur is a tower that exists to lower enemies damage and defence, adding even more counterplay. Overall that mechanic just feels incredibly useless in tdx, and its irritating since there are still several ways they could add tank like units in their games theming, such as riot sheild units you can place that have their own forms of damage resistance, and increased aggro so enemies are more likely to fire at them instead of your squishier units, but no, scarecrow an an autoclicker is all we have right now. Fuuuuun. (I just realised how much of a tangent i went on just to make a single point on why i dislike 1 tower, and my ass aint doing that for two more so) 1.hopefully relic feels less rushed when they release the rework 2.flametrooper shouldnt be an event tower and john was an idiot for doing so 3.PLEASE ADD OTHER WAYS TO COUNTER ATTACKS THAN JUST SPAM CHRIST ITS SO BORING

[@oelieboelie4159]

I agree with your statements

[@alimehrabi519r2]

You forgot to mention stealth towers

[@syep12]

I completely disagree with the "Please add other ways to counter attacks other than spamming" point its a non issue tbh

[@Random_-ky3li]

@@syep12 spamming is boring. holding shift and spamclicking is boring. There shouldnt be more towers literally designed to just exist for the purpose of being spammed, its boring. spamming doesnt take skill, it isnt hard, its just tiring. (that overall describes tdx as a whole but thats besides the point) Having other ways to counter attacks then just hold left shift and spam click would honestly just generally benefit the game, joke tower or not it shouldnt be encouraged.

[@Random_-ky3li]

@@alimehrabi519r2 flamethrowers Missiles the whole "taking literally ANY damage instantly unstealthing something" issue Seath towers is underbaked as hell in this game, just like tower deaths as a whole

[@valourss]

Didn’t know The Act Man played TDX

[@AuthenticSaltz]

Very inspired by the Act Man hes great :)

[@British_Gamer1]

Keep up the good work

[@RANDOM-GUY0987]

Why tf is flamethrower an event tower

[@Shereen3]

@@RANDOM-GUY0987 For real 😭

[@Eugenecapobianco]

As much as this mf rage baits and thinks he is funny for once he is spitting facts. Why is so Halloween like about flame trooper tbh

[@hobbies1097]

on god you stop commenting for like a while, AND NOW YOUR BACK

[@LimbillionBrainrot]

​@@hobbies1097came back with a w take

[@AuthenticSaltz]

yeah tbh I though tthat was weird

[@thefatjim8531]

i think relic was meant to be like graveyard from tb im not so sure though

[@AuthenticSaltz]

It was loosely inspired to my knowledge

[@paulantonguirigay7408]

Relic is a stronger counterpart for barracks

[@batakam10]

They should make scarecrow have 2 path

[@batakam10]

No 3 better

[@LimbillionBrainrot]

The spawner towers are probably the biggest offense of underwhelmig. Zed is still decently strong as of now but during one of the streams where john said he was nerfing zed, he also said behemoth was going to have better stats in the same price range, like what? Not to mention zed is only good on events or standard modes with normal paths. I hope he just worded it wrong. Relic not only has a kind of lame "boss" spawn whos purpose is just to run mindlessly into enemiee, but the other things it spawns do not reflect the late game/endless aspect of the tower at all. Your telling me that a singular 1500 hp troop is supposed to contribute to endless at all? Tower battles did this so much better, the main attraction does not die within 5 seconds of spawning and although the other spawns are still weak, at least they get their stats doubled.

[@nikolasshaw]

My opinion on event towers is 'missed potential'. Limiting event towers to one path to make them 'unique' ultimately makes them less unique compared to every other tower defense. Dare I say it makes them kind of bland. This includes the TB towers as the choice feels a little archaic to me. To me, it all feels like if a game built itself up around the idea of all weapons having a unique alt-firing mode, only to take it away from event weaponry because "oh, we wanted them to be situational." While I wouldn't say it is the reason behind it, it almost feels like laziness. As if the Devs after making so many towers decided "Actually, I hate making two paths for towers" and take any excuse they can to make monopath. Again, not saying that is the case, but to me as a player that is how it feels. I love TDX and love watching when they do new things, come up with new concepts and push the mold for TD games on ROBLOX, but because of this it only hurts so much more when they decide to fall into the shortcomings of other TD games purely because of "Well, that's how it is/was." The Elevator System, FOMO Battlepasses and FOMO Crates. TDX is just one event tower away from being able to make loadouts that completely ignores a key mechanic of the game.

[@PhromAxzilion]

yay my one love posted

[@Michael-x5v3p]

this channel is peak

[@blockerton0]

fun fact: ALL relic units deal meele damage in their attacks, including archer (tested it out myself)

[@blockerton0]

this makes archers really bad against enemies with meele resistance, like the executioners

[@Polaraisc]

Except for overseer, they used to deals like 909 dps before now its been removed

[@blockerton0]

@@Polaraisc unfortunately

[@syep12]

@@blockerton0 I feel like its more of a good thing that archers do melee dmg due to how rare melee resistance is

[@blockerton0]

@@syep12 never said it was bad, its actually pretty good, the problem comes from when they actually do spawn

[@alexprosxc9376]

cool video, good review.

[@reconsider3735]

I'm personally fine with these towers not having a second path. Giving away extra dev time to limited time towers is not a good idea for the longevity, and would continue towards the gatekeeping problem many TD games with event towers suffer from.

[@reconsider3735]

BTW to counter the gate keeping problem, I propose a 1 year exclusivity. Basically for the first year of an event towers existence, it can only be got from the event it was initially achieved from. After 1 year passes, the tower will then become obtainable through a large mission. I believe John said event replays will be added, so as an example for these 3 towers: Scarecrow: beat every night Flame trooper:beat every nightmare night, and deal 1,000,000 fire damage to enemies Relic:beat every nightmare and normal night 6 times, deal 10,000,000 damage with spawned units, kill calamity 15 times.

[@reconsider3735]

This way people who want to gatekeep a tower get a long period where they can, but the tower doesn't remain unobtainable forever. Maybe even throw in an exclusive skin for a tower if it was got from the original event.

[@ReBrandedd]

maybe this video should’ve been made after the relic rework?

[@okgoose3305]

imagine having to rework an event tower because it dissapointed everyone when it released

[@TheLoneMan-fk2iu]

theyre planning on reworking them, they only release them so that the community including me would shut up

[@FURRY_ERADICATOR9000]

John literally said himself event towers are suppose to be unique with their 1 path

[@benmemo]

I think scare crow other path instead of luring bosses it should scare the bosses

[@togeluga_the_cat]

4:09 i too dont have a problem with cryo ranger being kinda just ranger but i have a problem with it being a terrible tower its freezing sucks and bassicaly dosent work on early to mid game bosses, the top path has only ok dps wich still is not good at freezing bigger enemies and only realy usefull on small enemies and bottom path can freeze more consistantly bigger enemys but you need to buy at least more then one of them and have to spam the abilitys all that while being a big investment that has very low dps and dosent even have stealth detection Cryorange is just over all a bad tower that is worse then ranger, at least he is free, has good dps, molotvs and grenades are good CC for not that much of a high ivestment, and at least a way to damage bullet resistance enemies

[@Casatea27]

John said they have 1 path for differences form the real one. They had 2 path becouse they didn't have time for coding only one oath

[@yal1621]

you need to time your breaks in reading your script aswell as giving more enthusiasm i just hear this and go what is this guy yapping about

[@AuthenticSaltz]

lowkey I recorded this at 4am and was trying some different ways of speaking on this video. I really appreciate the criticism though! Will def keep it in mind!

[@okgoose3305]

half of the event towers tdx has is from tower battles lol

[@GMAN-l9p]

Its the same with tds event towers. Snoozefest. These tower defense games struggle to make a good event tower without nerfing it to the ground. It feels like with every new tower its just the new meta or complete... garbage

[@Sol_Aureus]

I disagree with 2 paths on event towers. I feel like even towers should be more limiting and specific as you can only get them for a limited time. 2 paths would make the tower feel less like an event tower and more like a normal tower. Also, the only reason Cryo-Ranger has 2 paths is because they didn't support single-path towers back then.

[@keppelin1527]

hardly anyone wants cryo ranger... praying a glow up

[@Polaraisc]

Tbf tho... some expertist realy like this tower for impossible maps in wich cases, almost no one (except for the expertist i meantion) realy wants to

[@keppelin1527]

@@Polaraisc ye, I kinda wished it could be somewhat more viable than this single niche use

[@PabloPorros]

cryo ranger is just old as fuck and it came from an easy mode

[@ReBrandedd]

imo event towers are terrible game design because its gameplay locked behind a paywall, one of my bigger issues with tds and i dont want tdx to have one third of their towers behind a paywall…

[@PatrykPer]

Yeah its a plus not to have it, but if the towers are balanced then its not as big of an issue in td games

[@DangBao-ic1wf]

unless its tower blitz

[@mrelitedefender9660]

They need to get paid

[@okgoose3305]

you get tds event towers when you beat the event unlike tdx

[@Shereen3]

​@@okgoose3305 It doesn't matter how you obtain the event tower. The commenter said "locked behind a paywall," implying that if you missed the event, well then too bad there will be no way you'd obtain it unless you pay real money. That's kind of the problem with both TDS and TDX in my opinion. They do affect gameplay and with PVP coming up for both games, people who dont have them might just percieve it as pay to win.

[@PileDzeno]

This video is disapointing by you. Not to hate on you or anything but Tdx owner John Roblox officially said: *To make our event towers special were gonna make them one path exclusvie!* The point of event towers is to have something custom or can be a achievement that you got for participating in event for your reward they will give you the event tower, event towers might be kinda boring after sometimes but they were never! but never! said to be op, only alot of time n gold coins like Golden Juggernaut was meant to be op, event towers are better and better as event is harder and harder, the hardest Tds event has strongest event tower, thats a fact that all dev's follow! Cryo ranger was first event tower thats now not obtainable but was for doing event on Normal/Nightmare or 300 Robux, Cryo Ranger was first event one rn to not have one path, why? well maybe cause it was wayyyy after her planned to get all event towers to have 1 path which made Cryo ranger even more exclusive, after 2-3 years Cryo is be super rare and showing it off will be for super fame ! Also Im trying to get all event towets in Tdx wish me luck, Relic is a little troubling! Im lv 122 anyways and Im own all towers beside Relic even all Event ones well beside Relic. Read allat this and you will see the point of Event towers and your mistakes! Edit: Im dont think that you realise that all normal towers that arent exclusive will have 2 paths as causal. Event towers are limited exclusive towers that need to be unique, 1 path perfectly fits it as none other towers beside Event will have (CRYO R) 1 path, Tds's towers are unique by the ammo or abilitys they got, Tdx cant do much beside make abilitys and make 1 path, yea but Tdx's dev team is small and got only 1 coder, you shude not underestimate the hard work they put in these towers.

[@AuthenticSaltz]

Thanks for your comment! That being said I stand by what I said in my video. I am well aware JohnRBLX said that event towers will only have one path, that being said I heavily disagree with that statement. And I am not under estimating the work that the TDX developers put it-- that's why an entire section of this video was dedicated to me saying that much. I don't agree with the notion of 1 path == more unique. Hope your day is good!

[@PileDzeno]

@@AuthenticSaltz thanks for reading but really? Whats gonna be really special if there are 2 path event towers, its gonna be confusing. Im wished John would make Event towers like in inventory so you can know, also good luck with subs, soon 1k that good for you!

[@PileDzeno]

@@AuthenticSaltz Im also well aware of point in your video, Zed and Relic would be so cool if they had 2 paths, Relic kinda looks like Overseer and max is spawning a Overseer named unit, Imagine 2nd path bottom a swarm not just a 300k boss like unit at end. You got a good point, you have a good day as well 😁

[@user-en1qi6pw1s]

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[@torned2536]

I dont get why making an event tower (in TDX) have only one path is good. Yeah it's unique but in a bad way like it's lame as hell