WHY Are Wild Campers So SECRETIVE About Their Locations? (THE TRUTH) | Northumberland WILD CAMP

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

What do you think? Should locations be shared? If you enjoyed the video drop it a like 👍

[@steverobbo770]

Totally agree with you lads. Most times when I'm watching Steve and Mark, I'll look at where you are, where you've parked etc and sit with my OS maps and try to suss out where you are.😊 When out, I like to show what I see but maybe selfishly, I don't really want people to come.🙂

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Thanks Steve!

[@iamchriswhelan]

My personal opinion is that it's more short form content like tiktok or reels on Instagram that are the issue with locations. I think the People who watch wild camping videos on KZbin like yours or mine or any of those lads are already wild campers looking for there armchair camping video whilst there not out camping. I'm quite happy to share a location with any fellow wild camper and even shared one with you lad.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Good point Chris, the shorter format does tend to lean towards it. Im not sure what we do about that and i'd hate to be peddled along with those guys. I tend to share with those I trust - feels like its a different debate in Northumberland. Cheers

[@cheviotoutdoors]

Great video Steven and a very good discussion topic. Trust me to have my light on full beam dazzling everyone 🙈 Thanks for the shout out 👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

haha dont worry about that Dave thanks again for letting me join you.

[@Kris_brewes]

I'm just kitting up to start my wild camping adventures but I already agree with you guys, ill put the leg work in and discover places myself when needed, i've seen too many lovely places trashed by people with a simple lack of respect for our beautiful countryside! keep on keepin on!

[@garrywhelan9211]

You're doing the right thing. Northumberland is still a wild place and long may it continue. If it remains a hard place to get to them it stays preserves for longer. The Lake District still has quiet corners but the core areas are blown out now. Keep doing what you're doing 👍👍👍

[@SoloSarahBX]

Thanks for this! I’ve shared some camp locations but I think this comes out on my videos because of my natural love for the area. As a lone female camper I never share where I am on the night of the camp and I don’t usually choose to camp at prime spots as I enjoy seeking out my own. I like being vague to disorientate folk who won’t respect it as much as I do. I’m always respectful in my areas because that’s just me but I do feel like I need to set that good example too, preach to the converted n’ all that. Most places in the Peak District get trashed by day visitors and usually abandoned fly camps happen because they aren’t prepared for weather change or how challenging wild camping can be! It’s not all sunsets and cloud inversions is it ? 😂…ATB Sarah ⛺️

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Yeah Sarah, It can be complicated and I think thats why i wanted to raise some form of awarness to the 100 people who watch the video haha TFW Steven

[@Fellmandave1]

Definitely approve of gatekeeping. I don't even like to tell friends where I am when I am out. It's about seclusion. Great video and well done on the education.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Love that!

[@michaelhanly8575]

Thought provoking and entertaining video, well done 👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@otf.outdoors]

Agree with the lads, don’t say the places, like you said finding them is part of the reward, unless it’s an obvious location then fine,if someone asks, which people do, I’ll only tell people in a private message the spot im at if I know they are a responsible camper, interesting talking point, good video mate , atb Mick 👍

[@davidwilkinson248]

Totally agree with your sentiment in terms of having a bit of a clue, but then making an effort yourself via map reserach or better still, going for a hike to 'case the joint'. Respect and taking care of the precious gift that the outdoors provides doesn't seem to feature in some people's vocabulary or mindset.

[@soletrail]

Great upload mate and a very important topic. I think COVID really messed up the wild camping committee. You had so many " non camper " trying it for the 1st time and absolutely trashing the places. I think leave no trace includes not highlighting exact locations. Just found the Channel mate. Great presence on camera. New sub from me. Greetings from Ireland ☘️☘️🤙

[@fraserconnell21]

Mahico 😊. Great tagline chap 😊

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Many thanks

[@brianboucher9604]

Good vid mate ! Speak sense , I’ve some belter spots on the north Pennines when I live , couple not a soul knows , would never give the locations for that LNT reason , boils my piss these fly campers 🤬 over 20 years me and Baz have been camping , some lovely spots in Northumberland 👌 also didn’t realise you had a facebook page , will join mate 👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Thats the thing some that you found you just want to keep to yourself! TFW Steven

[@jacques-edouardrolland4971]

Hello, Possible to know which inner tent do you use inside the pyraomm ?

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

ive got a couple - the first is the liteway single inner and the other is a 3ful 4season solid inner. be sure to get the smaller size version

[@jacques-edouardrolland4971]

Thanks for your help !

[@Moffatmountainadventures]

I’ve never really gone out my way to hide my locations deliberately. My local ones I always tend to film enough of my hike that it’s easy to find if you wanted. I can see in your case why though as your closer to a city and closer to a bigger wild community.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

I get it mate, think it all depends on where the location is? closer to the city the easier it is to get to.

[@dino19671]

Good video Steve, definitely agree with not telling all our sought out favourite sites, I can't even figure out which crags have been wrecked the most but will find out next time I am there as camp a few, couldn't even figure out todays site but no biggie as you say and I agree, it is better to find them, take care mate, keep up the videos, Sean McG

[@dino19671]

Been looking at a few vids and realise places from Byrness have become very popular so might skip them for a while.

[@milesfromanywhere.]

Good topic to discuss, especially with like minded folk. I’m with you lot on all points, maybe share with people you can trust. Pre Covid seemed different in my opinion, less people camping, less mess & fires, I put my hands up for naming places, not now though, too many irresponsible idiots who have zero appreciation towards the outdoors. Those crags you spoke about, I’d never camp there again, such a shame but that’s the way it is, the minority definitely spoil it for everyone. Cheers for sharing mate, nice video 👍👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Cheers Dave, yeah those Crags I remember having a few conversations about many years ago now. Like you say its done for now. What I dont understand is how some of these bigger channels dont get any level of scrutiny. Anyway cheers for watching.

[@terrypatterson1481]

Hi Fellow Geordie's, great vlog. I agree that there are some irresponsible people who care not about their environment but I think on the whole I would like to think that the vast majority of campers do LNT ( Leave no trace) and are responsible when camping. I would love to get out on a wild/stealth camp but I do not drive and being disabled I am reliant on kind friends giving me a lift. It is two years since I've been camping now and I miss the freedom and peace that camping gives you. At 68 people may say I'm too old to go camping now- My mobility isn't good and I have a pacemaker, but I'm sure there are places that don't tax the body that I could go and spend a relaxing time with like minded people. If any of you guys live in the Wallsend area and could offer a lift I would be very appreciative. I would be prepared to share costs.

[@MarkSweeting_]

Always enjoy your vids. If I've found it myself it's not getting named. If I've got fond memories of a place it's not getting named. If it's a well known place then I'd name it and it'll help focus the wild campers who are idiots, for reasons mentioned in your video, into certain areas. Personally I loved figuring out where someone is via Outdoor Active and Google Earth. Keep the vids coming, they're great 👌 Cheers Mark

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

nailed it Mark! thanks for watching

[@emz_adventure]

Ooh a nice discussion. I myself have in the past given away a couple of locations in Northumberland purely due to naivety when i first started wildcamping. However nowadays i dont like to. Simply because of a, it encourages those who dont follow the LNT policy and b, as someone who works for a large estate in the area knows that they don't want too many campers in areas where they are trying to work the land and look after the livestock and wildlife. Ive been asked to move twice and both times have moved on out of respect for the keepers, shepherds etc. Ive also been asked not to advertise where i am in the national park. It is a bug bear of mine when exact locations are advertised via grid references etc. Probs get some stick for saying that but hey ho 😂. Good topic steven. Interesting to hear others views on it 😊. And as an often solo female wildcamper i genuinely feel safer out in the hills than i do in a city or town. Alot of my wildcamps i dont video for purely selfish reasons 😊

[@DOUGIEmcfc-zm6pz]

Yep keep it stum. I have one place the farmer don't like campers but don't have a problem with me, as I respect his land. That's in N Wales 👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

thats it its all about respect!

[@phillipbirchall7148]

Some great points there fella, is it as bad up northumberland as it is in the lake district, the videos of wildcamping in the lakes are far easier to recognise so naming most places will have little effect for undesirable people going, ive watched plenty of videos of camps up that way, hopefully try a camp up there at some stage,

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

I think as its a bit more local to some it certainly has a stigma and once its out theres no turing back!

[@WildCamper]

1) Just dont want to turn up and there be other people there. 2) fear of that spot being trashed. Thats it really!

[@ExploreAboveAndBelow]

I've seen to many low lying forests etc trashed by people taking "disposable" tents and loads of drink on "wild camp's" then leaving it all behind and stagger home. A worrying development was when only two days ago I discovered the usual pile of trash dumped not far below a summit that's a good two hour hike to reach. I don't hold any influence on where people camp but i certainly wouldn't be naming spots to Joe Public.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

yeah likewise, its such a shame we have to do that!

[@JasonLiddle-tw3hd]

Couldn't agree more.

[@Phil.Oakley]

I call them muggles. They expect to just be given locations. I will share mine with others who I know will be responsible, but I won't over share anything for fear of it being occupied when I want to be there. If I see a camp I like I'll be checking other videos and maps and Google earth for it. Places that take a while to get to are no issue really, but again just a comment of the area is enough and allows you to explore to find own spot

[@shanejones43]

Hi mate the only person i share location with is my wife. Not many people follow the code of camping so i think its best not too. I go camping and leave the area as it was i dont make videos i just like being out under the stars .

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

not sure id even share with my wife hahahaha

[@shanejones43]

@@thegeordiewildcamper hahahahahaha really good topic of discussion. Hope your leg is better 👍

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

@@shanejones43 cheers

[@suewheeler5795]

I'm a Dartmoor camper so many people know where you are, but, if I go elsewhere, not a chance would I share. I also have a camper van and I wince when I see the muppets with fires and leaving rubbish. i think it's this throw away and entitled society in which we live and I really don't know how to solve it. It's sad

[@vilpertzon]

I could share my spots for like minded hikers/campers. People who share the principles of leave no trace and peace and quiet. But you never know these days.

[@northumberlandmountainhopper]

Hi and good topic, I certainly don’t talk locations anymore, I think you learn not too with what goes on now, perhaps on a known summit it would not matter, there is too much mess appearing, if you have a map it’s not hard to check locations anyway from views in videos. Cheers from the Bivy

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

Very true! althought there are some lazy folk about!

[@CaptaonPeterQuinn2]

yea, there are people out there who ruin it for the rest, gotta be care who you name places to, i mean i can read a O/S maps, so i can follow the clues and from what i see too. i do enjoy "finding the treasure".

[@adge_ventures4915]

I have absolutely no influence on anyone and I'm usually very very high up so it's never bothered me naming places. That said, if I had an online presence I'd swerve naming places. I've seen first hand how scummy some people can be and I wouldn't want to risk influencing people to hit those gorgeous camp spots. Take care mate, Adge

[@craig3401]

I guess it's a double edged sword when naming places i always go where I like the look of sometimes it's helpful to see vids to see if there's water on the route or suitable pitches. I do find it double standards tho at times when you and others in your vid name places in the lakes or other locations but never do for the cheviots. I do get the point of not wanting places trashed tho.

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

I think it really depends. In Norway there isnt really any pressure on nature because of wild camping. So I will name the location if its very obvious and that wont have any significant effect. If its just any random location I just call it local or nothing at all. Greqt video and thoughts 🙂👍

[@tezizz-yt]

you give more than enough hints to anyone interested enough to find your spots, and the people that take the time to do the research are mostly going to be the same as those who are gonna treat the spots with respect. it's the low effort 'wild campers' who cause so many of the issues unfortunately.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

nailed it mate

[@whatsnottohike]

unless it's obvious where you are, I don't generally say where it is. However, the reasons I don't give, and this might sound quite selfish, is because If I've gone to the lengths of finding a spot, going off trail, walking through some bog or whatever to find it, I feel I've earned that to myself and in this world of not being able to be alone or find silence anywhere, that place is mine and mine only given the lengths I've gone to to find it. Cheers

[@shabingly]

/edit, just came across as combative and know-it-all/ Think you meant polyester rather than sil when talking about yer tent fly. /Literally all I needed to say, sorry 😂 bad day at work and a few beers, no excuses on my part/ Don't tell people camping spots, imo. Even some of the ones who bang on about leave no trace are actual muppets who indeed do leave a trace, or blare music out, or pitch at midday or whatever.

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

sorry I abbreviated "Sil" as I had the ultra version out a couple of weeks ago. Well aware of the types of materials used. Thank you for the information...

[@shabingly]

@thegeordiewildcamper edited post, apols: had had a few after a sh!te day of work, but not a good excuse to go off on one about chemistry 😂

[@thegeordiewildcamper]

@ don’t be daft mate all good 👍