Why Audiences Hate Modern Movies | Peter Boghossian &

[@drpeterboghossian]

The crossover you didn't know you needed! Be sure to subscribe to the channel, as I now do regular livestreams where you can interact in the chat and via superchat. I appreciate you all!

[@ellie698]

8:52 Which is why "Fallon" Fox, a male who identified as a woman and then bragged about breaking women's heads in the ring was so detestable

[@justinpaul3110]

I would have loved a bit more of a philosophical dive here. Not super-deep, but a bit of an exploration of what makes a good story. I did like that observation of Sci-fi being a speculation of the future based on attitudes of the present. That was an interesting point.

[@amarissimus29]

If you're involved, I need it. The Drinker is on a serious roll. This is the big leagues for reality supremacists. Cheers.

[@adrianmeyer2157]

I listened in work earlier, a brilliant talk and I never knew you were such a nerd Peter haha. I watch a film or series, then watch Critical's take on it and always opens my eyes to things I never thought about.

[@douglasherron7534]

What surprises me most from this conversation is that you, as an American, have not only heard of Blake's 7 but you've watched it all the way through twice! 😀 I watched it when it first came out on tv in the UK when was seen as a Star Wars type drama - with cheaper sets/ locations...

[@Steel_Wrath]

My favorite reoccurring blunder of Hollywood is an actor or derector telling half the population this movie is not made for them, then getting upset when said population didn't go see their movie.

[@GorgeousRoddyChrome]

Along with telling the public they are racist or fascists or whatever for attending the movie, not liking it, and panning it on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@bobross1829]

Or even better when the population that they did make the movie for does not show up either and they realize that their "audience" is either invisible, do not even like those movies, or is soo tiny that even if they did go, it still is a massive flop.

[@Steel_Wrath]

@@bobross1829 True!!!

[@Steel_Wrath]

@@GorgeousRoddyChrome You didn't know giving something bad review are on if the 15 signs your fascist? The other 14 is commenting on youtube so we're fucked.

[@TitaGoose]

Tiny hats

[@davidoconnell1173]

“Modern writers can’t replicate meaning” ….spot on!

[@jkonior1]

Peter Boghossian and The Critical Drinker--together at last! Great interview!

[@Ratgon]

What a great interview. I love it when two of my favorite people come together when i'd least expect it.

[@theinnerlight8016]

Absolutely 🎉

[@jkkjeldsen8249]

As a woman, I totally agree with Peter about the predictable but unrealistic kick-ass female in every film. That's one reason I love film noir. The females are often fem fatales who get slapped around but are conniving killers in a more realistic way.

[@souxcasa]

For sure, women have needed to be clever in ways that socially engineer situations. They are not as strong as men. For sure there are women trained to fight who would absolutely beat men who are not but a woman beating a man that is also trained to fight? The chances are slim depending on the martial art.

[@dukecity7688]

This conversation is a breath of fresh air. If I want to be lectured - I go to Mass. I only have Netflix for my granddaughter. I am sick of watching a movie be ruined by having to follow a formula. And it's taking over.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thanks. I appreciate that.

[@dukecity7688]

@@drpeterboghossian I appreciate you. I am very angry and sorry that you have been bad mouthed and labeled. It is wrong. I have a feeling that in less than thirty years ( I'll be dead) this will turn around. Know why? The overly empathetic, immature hysterical voices will grow up.

[@tamashumi7961]

If this lecturing could have any good impact at least. But the woke preachings are only to the detriment of a society.

[@Wagnar6000]

This is amazing the KZbin crossover the world needed . Did not expect this , loved it .

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you!

[@Wagnar6000]

@@drpeterboghossianhonestly thank you , keep doing what you do. It is important.

[@Iknowurconfused]

​@@drpeterboghossianLOVED FIREFLY

[@pfeilspitze]

14:00 Death on the Nile (2022) really tripped this one for me. It's started out ok, but all of a sudden I noticed The Message front and center, and it was immediately obvious as a result what had to be the problem. And in a *mystery* it's even more important than in other genres that you can't just rule people out for meta-narrative reasons.

[@Orvulum]

Story-telling by committee? Politicization? Rehashing old movies? Corporatization? Immature writers? Sexism? Superimposition of ideologies?

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Definitely all of the above. The tiresome trope that "Anyone can be whatever they want!" is not true. I'm too short for women's basketball, so what? -- and some people just aren't good scriptwriters, directors, cinematographers, or any of the other skills required for a movie to be great. We need to make meritocracy great again, if we want great movies again.

[@Orson2u]

PLUS confirmation bias. Group-Think on steroids.

[@grannyannie2948]

All I know is I can only watch older movies and TV shows anymore. Currently I'm watching The White Queen mini series. Set in the Middle Ages, not ethnic minorities in historically impossible settings, I'm thinking the black Ann Bolyn, and yes powerful women, queen's no less, but still physically weaker than men.

[@mrginge143]

You sure audiences aren’t just all racist? xd that’s what my commissar on twitter tells me

[@Theactivepsychos]

@@zxyatiywariii8can I ask what era or eras (limit it to 5 or ten year blocks) were the best and why? Some of the films from the last five years have been as good as any. My favourite periods are 58-63, 68-73, 90-96 and 05 - 11. Best films from each are north by north west, Lawrence of Arabia, big lebowski and tinker tailed soldier spy. I’d say my favourite film of recent years is joker. I don’t know how people gauge whether todays films are better / worse cos there have been the most terrible films in every decade. The thing is now that there are far more movies made than other decades by x4 compared with 1940s. Are you sure it’s not just a nonstick fallacy. You remember the best from the past.

[@thomasberrigan4386]

My wife and I regularly roll our eyes when watching modern films/tv shows these days. Entertainment since 2016, you know what I mean, has become insufferable and I think its effects will be reflected in society in unfortunate ways. On the subject of movies: saw alien(1979) when I was 18, diverse crew, thought nothing of it at the time. Ellen Ripley was strong character throughout all of those movies, the same with Sarah Connor in the first two terminator films. They were great characters who happened to be women. Now at age 37, I’m told the character can only be great if they’re a woman or whatever else you want to shoe horn in. I used to be blind to someone’s sex, race, sexuality etc - in other words seeing everyone the same. Now we are forced to break people down into groups and treat them accordingly or special because they fall into x or y group and that creates division and even animosity and I’m afraid we’re going to see a lot of sane, reasonable progress that was made in past for all those groups be undone because of this.

[@avengemybreath3084]

It’s already undone. Unfortunate

[@sylviam6535]

That progress has already been done, and that was the desired result of this propaganda.

[@codinghusky5196]

...you just described how I became racist and mysogynist after being a leftie for 40 years. Now I'm a woman who hates women and steers clear from brownies even if a solid half of them are whiter than myself. I cannot help but percieve them as entitled creatures who I want nothing to do with. That said, if I moved to the USA, I'd probably use the tanning facilities to get the benefits of the fact I can Slav to Hispanic in a matter of 2 sunny days. Too bad I'm past college, I'd rock for the dibs on getting in courtesy of my Italian gyppo great-great-great grandmother... but maybe there's still a big movie production role out there for me see as I totally fulfill the only 2 requirements for a major movie role: 1. I have a poosay, 2. I brown easily... kinda can't blame people for using what's out there.

[@taradalik1405]

Same. It’s horrible what is being done. And this is also happening in many sectors of society, especially in corporations - DEI trainings, etc. They are creating resentment, and this will backfire in a very ugly way.

[@EveryDooDarnDiddlyDay]

They aren't writers and actors and directors and producers...they're all activists.

[@SgtBuck01]

I will never forget going to see Rise of Skywalker with my dad, when they were explaining how the fleet of ships on Exegal are grounded and he just shouts "WHAT?!"

[@ErikDeMann]

Likely one of the best and most honest movie analytics and critics of the 21th century, without actually being one.

[@cuteanimalseverywhere7620]

I’m having a break from woke and fake movies and fictional TV and sticking to things with real people and ideas- like you two!

[@SatanLiterally]

15:24 in 28 Days Later, there's a scene where some not so nice guys have a black zombie guy chained up. I remember people were pissed about that, even. The context of the scene was irrelevant, it was the imagery. People were pissed at Resident Evil 5 having mostly black enemies, even though it was based in Africa and absolutely no one cared that the enemies in Resident Evil 4 were all Spanish.

[@mern2974]

Lol

[@TheGoldenCapstone]

I remember the 28 Days Later complaint. It didn't last long because that was during the early 2000's so no one took woke complaints seriously.

[@maxprize829]

“Every time she opens her mouth she wipes 10s of millions of dollars off of that movie”. LOL😂

[@Dave5400]

Speaking of "negative" stereotypes and predictable characters, there's one thing I always notice in films from around the 1950's to today that never gets talked about: Think of any film with an transatlantic cast (i.e. not something like Star Wars which is obviously English) and I'm going arbitrarily to use Fantastic Voyage (great film, by the way) as an example, but it really could be one of thousands of popular films to the modern day. Now ask yourself: who is most likely to be the baddy, and who is most likely to be the goody? Answer: 9 times out of 10, the goody is the brash American (who I should add always gets the girl), and the baddie is the eccentric Englishman (note, not British which could mean Scottish, Welsh or Irish). I don't particularly have anything against stereotypes, but I really get fed up of films that are predictable like this and yet pretend they are not. Really ruins the atmosphere when you can just say "here we go again" with the characters as their roles are predictably unravelled.

[@LEAHCIM71457]

Peter Boghossian don't forget ESG Score as an influence on Hollywood . Great talk. Thanks !

[@walter_lesaulnier]

These are the reasons my list of favorite movies has been steadily gaining more and more low budget independent movies and very few Hollywood offerings.

[@themasterrogerdelgado]

27:20 with a Farscape shoutout!!! This is why I watch your channel! :)

[@ZagrosŞêxbizin]

Peter! I would like to recommend one more movie critique who is just more into the postmodern/marxist aspects, “The Little Platoon”! Wonderful Brit. guy with excellent analysis!

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you

[@edwoodsr]

Next long flight, Little Platoon's 2.5 hour Barbie review would be a better choice than (say) The Flash.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

Oh I absolutely second it. He's my favorite of the 'IDW film critics'. He's the Douglas Murray of film hehehe

[@avengemybreath3084]

@@edwoodsrepic

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

Absolutely incredible he is!

[@JezaLoki]

“I bypassed the compressor!” done over and over again.

[@tomk8729]

Astonishingly as a Scot myself I'd never come across Will Jordan. Duly rectified and subscribed. Thanks Peter! And what an episode.

[@Jack-xy4fy]

Me too

[@Juggernaut76-e7m]

His reviews are very good

[@RictaScale.Official]

Wow. Did not expect this. 2 top fellows. Keep up the great work.

[@coltimgregory]

Two power-house intellects! Such a refreshing conversation. Thank you for your service to the empire!

[@drpeterboghossian]

Our pleasure!

[@_nebulousthoughts]

​@drpeterboghossian hey Peter if you really like scifi watch or read The Expanse. Also keep up the great work!

[@sanzusi943]

It's so funny to see these crossovers that you wouldn't expect.

[@tharkun21280]

I am SO GRATEFUL you're talking about this. I mention these things about movies to some friends, and they think I'm crazy.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

I’ve even met one adult guy that genuinely liked that Amazon Prime masterpiece known as Rings of Power.

[@Say_When]

​@@sirrathersplendid4825 Oh barf!... 10 seconds to answer Last good movie thoroughly enjoyed watching... Like you remember you felt about movies when you were growing up Go Blade runner 2049.... Oh and I almost forgot.. holy shit... Once upon a time in Hollywood... Because Nolan Villeneuve in Tarantino get blank checks... They are the only ones that get blank checks.. every other actor that is trying to make something that they would want to watch... These movies get carpet bombed with retarded executive producers throwing their woke virtual signaling 2 cents. That completely break the gearbox.... And corporate notes that remove anything even remotely interesting or actually.... GASP .... Truly funny.. Before that.. I'll think it's pre 2010...

[@michaeldavid6832]

This is why they're called "normies". They'll eat any swill poured into the trough.

[@tharkun21280]

@@sirrathersplendid4825 Nooooooooooo! lol. They should just rename the show "Cringe of Power."

[@fwabble]

The Last starfighter deserves so much more appreciation

[@GodwynDi]

I grew up on it far more than Star Wars or Star Trek.

[@DJWESG1]

Can I offer flight of the navigator and Howard the duck into the frame..

[@rafangirl1]

So happy to see some love for Farscape! Such an incredible story arc. I've never forgiven SyFy for cancelling it.

[@makatron]

Farscape was ahead of its time, but at least we got 4 seasons of it.

[@droopytitlikka]

Still holds up today, written by people that clearly had an plan for the main story. But I totally agree, just like that it was gone and far too soon.

[@Gatheist]

@@makatron Have you not seen the two part finale that came after the end of season 4?

[@makatron]

@@Gatheist or course I did. 😎

[@hokutomaster89]

Unexpected and much appreciated and needed!

[@ninjaskeleton6140]

I love Critical Drinker, one of the best youtubers out there, all his channels are worth checking out.

[@thibauthanson7670]

I can confirm, Stargate SG1 has aged perfectly. The only issue is the old (CRT) monitor that start to disapear after a season or two.

[@larry-ludwig]

Wow, I was not expecting this interview. Love Critical Drinker's channel.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Me too!

[@Truthnowhere2020]

Two of my favourites. Great times 👍🏻

[@jezzamundo4720]

Wow - what a great podcast! Now Peter needs a sci - fi writer podcast where we explore the philosophical themes & concepts in current sci-fi!

[@keithyork8226]

I used to go to the movies twice a week. Now I go, perhaps, twice a year!

[@justinmytwocents3551]

really nice to see you two together, great interview, thanks guys.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you!

[@penitentone6998]

How did I miss this on my feed? Wow

[@lesliefish4753]

What happened to Marvel is that, first, they signed up with Disney, and , second, that Stan Lee died and nobody after him wanted to defend the integrity of his creation. As for Star Trek, it pretty much died after "Voyager" ended.

[@iandaut1146]

So when is James and Helen going to interview the Drinker? Great show BTW.

[@fillzone]

What a delightful crossover! Thanks to the both of you for having this conversation.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Our pleasure!

[@baddragonite]

I would argue you can't "truly" replicate human creativity with AI, but our culture is so used to recycling the same IPs and stories over and over again that we can't as easily distinguish human creativity from AI anymore. One positive thing that maybe could come from AI is it forces professional "Creatives" to be more creative. That said on the personalized media thing I think there will always be some demand for a unified experience for people to share

[@drpeterboghossian]

Very interesting observation, thanks for sharing! And thank you for the Super Thanks!

[@tomtillerman2334]

Thank you, Peter, for speaking out about Discovery! I'm a lifelong Trekkie who has watched every episode of every show (OK, I may have missed a few Deep Space Nine episodes). Discovery was so bad it made me despair that Trek was dead. However, for the most part, Strange New Worlds has brought back some hope! I am (mostly) enjoying it.

[@tomtillerman2334]

The last season of Picard was also watchable from a nostalgia point of view.

[@TMBTM]

About A.i: When I watch a movie I'm not just watching "a movie", I'm watching the work of human beings. That's what I want to see. I want to follow the creative path of an artist along the years. With ups and downs. I'm waiting for the next Spielberg movie because I like the guy and I feel a connection with his work, I'm not waiting for the next random story "in the style of Steven Spielberg with all the cool things I want to see". I won't lie, if tomorrow I can enter the words "Show me the movie adaptation of Heir To The Empire" I'll probably want to see it. So there are ways that A.I could be fun and interesting, and A.I can also be a tool of creation used by artists, but that whole thing about pressing a button getting what you want to see... I don't know. Always seeing what we want to see sounds boring, lol. And it would deconnect people from each others even more.

[@noelienoelie8425]

8:40 top movie! I think its called "Jet Lee Unforgiven" Danny the dog, it's got Morgan freeman in it too. That toilet stall fight scene is amazing and the fight choreography all round is top notch.

[@henrys2403]

The Drinker! What a pleasant surprise.

[@greaser1945]

I could only tolerate the first four episodes of Picard season one and then abandoned the whole series. However, I was persuaded by Dave Cullen to give season three a shot. I have to say it was enjoyable and while not perfect it was an example of what the whole series should have been like. I think you’ll like it Peter.

[@erinlikesacornishpasty4703]

Strange New Worlds is good. I was shocked at how much I've enjoyed it.

[@GodwynDi]

The final episode of season 1 was the first one that felt like a proper star trek episode

[@stackels97]

May I ask, because I trusted drinker and gave a a shot and absolutely hated it, what you found was different about season 3? I found it insulting and horribly written, so I'm really trying to understand why people are claiming that its any better than season 1 or 2.

[@Nerdporeal]

Season 3 was bad.

[@LaniBanani]

Unexpected cross over! Cool

[@Bobo_Plantain]

What an amazing interview with The Drinker! Thank you for doing this, Peter!

[@germanxmascookie]

This Critical Drinker dude seems really intelligent and astute.

[@suzybearheart530]

One of my favorite Cobra Kai moments - Johnny takes a call at his Dojo. Johnny “we accept boys and girls. Gender WHAT? Hey, is this a prank call?” 😂

[@JezaLoki]

Yes! And when his new student says he’s on the spectrum and Johnny says “yeah? Well, get off that thing.”

[@LordMoe74]

Peter, you are 100 % correct on Trek. Thanks for this colab, loved it. Cheers

[@eporcheetahka5086]

Whenever a movie description includes the phrases "A modern retelling" or "made for a modern audience " it's pretty much an instant NO go for me as the trend for those tends to be some kind of propaganda/ideological push over quality story telling.

[@GeneralZod99]

I enjoy Will's biting wit when he gives his take on movies. The tone/timber/pitch (whichever one is the correct word) of his voice and his accent are the proverbial cherries on top for me.

[@emdo.unlimited555]

"MODERN AUDIENCES" and "THE MESSAGE".. I snort and guffaw every time

[@HappyCynic]

Timbre?

[@alamataslim5820]

53:15 Robert Smalls would make an excellent movie. Man escapes slavery by stealing a ship and sailing it into Northern Territory to where he is anointed as a Captain. He ends up buying the house his previous owner lived in after he passed away and let’s the wife live out her old days because she is ill I believe. He ends up joining congress later on, man is a legend.

[@MrCau5e]

This was a great conversation to listen to. Thanks for having Drinker on Peter.

[@estelja]

I like the baseball analogy where the studios would now just prefer to hit a consistent single rather than go for a home run where they might strike out. Perfect formula for mediocrity where they can almost predict exactly how many people will watch.

[@emdo.unlimited555]

The same in basketball as the focus shifted to 3-pointer strategies

[@GodwynDi]

Except they keep mostly getting their predictions wrong. It's like going for the single, but still consistently failing to get a run in at all.

[@chall7211]

Great interview with my favourite KZbin people!!!!

[@carynfisher9463]

My father, who passed away many year ago, would have loved this. A Sci-Fi fan/amateur philosopher himself, I just want to add some of his favorites to your list: Earth 2 Space: Above and Beyond Alien Nation (I know he saw the movie and the show, but I was pretty young and can't remember if he had a preference for one over the other) V (the original, obv.) Quantum Leap

[@laurenanderson61]

I loved Earth 2

[@TheGoldenCapstone]

Earth 2 was awesome!

[@CalmBeforeTheStorm76]

Great choice, Peter!! Love this guy. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@thegroovypatriot]

Battlestar Galactica (reboot) was AMAZING! SG Universe was AMAZING!

[@drpeterboghossian]

Agreed 100%

[@erinlikesacornishpasty4703]

I was disappointed with SGU. It tried way too hard to be like Battlestar Galactica, and didn't move the story forward episodically at all the way the other SG series' did. There was so much action it actually became boring somehow, which is wierd. I loved the idea, but I didn't like how they changed the aesthetic of the show from a bright, exploration one to a dark, gritty, terrifying one. I wasn't surprised it didn't do well because I think it actually alienated it's core base in some way 🤷‍♀️, even though it wasn't woke.

[@empire_of_sand]

Agreeee, Robert Carlyle was so good in Universe

[@name-vi6fs]

The Drinker's comment about avoiding politics and pointing out the logical issues is spot on. The politics are going to get called out tangentally anyway because they're illogical.

[@robsawalker]

Brilliant video. Will's books are great too, perfect for a holiday by the pool with a few beers. And well done Peter for doing what you do - it's a huge risk to be reasonable these days, thank you for putting yourself out there!

[@ash8128]

18:51 "What moves or shows are not infected with wokeness" The recent "SAS: Rogue Heroes" comes to mind. Made by BBC to boost. Gritty, rough, fun, masculine.

[@ash8128]

53:15 Carl Mannerheim is a well known figure with a fascinating life, but very little media. Baron Ungern is lesser known, but even more fascinating, and could be made in a great movie.

[@sandyfoot]

‘Stunning and brave’

[@scifigeezer5271]

Watching TV commercials/adverts in the UK is like playing spot the white man. Its bizarre.

[@Knuck_Knucks]

" Be careful what you offer there, " indeed ! Great chat gentlemen. A welcomed duo. 🐿

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you!

[@michaelbuddy]

Terminal List is a mini series on Amazon that definitely wasn't lefty focused. Author Jack Carr adaptation. Really good in my opinion. I've watched several times through. I love revisiting it every few months.

[@makatron]

Criminally short, it deserved at least 2 more episodes. Chris Pratt was a great Reese.

[@johnkrstyen]

All the hit peices for the show are great. They are full of cope

[@makatron]

@@johnkrstyen it's because it's male focused and not a single vegan feminist trans or whatever they're pushing.

[@Doutsoldome]

This is a crossing of the streams I never expected. I hope the universe doesn't explode!

[@w1cked001]

No way! The critical drinker on Peter's podcast? Maybe there's some good left in the world after all.

[@gavinruneblade]

Anyone having a hard time finding good shows to watch should check out some Korean Dramas. Iris is an incredible spy series about a conspiracy to prevent peace talks between north and south Korea. Kingdom is midieval korean warriors vs zombie apocalypse. Arthdal Chronicles is an awesome fantasy about a prophecy being badly misinterpreted. They are really putting out high quality shows with great writing.

[@avengemybreath3084]

Where to find them?

[@gavinruneblade]

Netflix and lots of other places.@@avengemybreath3084

[@jonathansteel8565]

I wouldn't add REVENANT. It's a Spooky evil spirit's crime drama. Good story & genuinely creepy AF at times. in UK & Ireland it's on Disney + (read back 1st line should be I would add)

[@adamgates1142]

Every Filipina woman I know is obsessed with k dramas

[@gavinruneblade]

Can confirm.@@adamgates1142

[@toddmitchell9014]

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein I believe that is the motto of most Hollywood studios, especially Disney.

[@DJWESG1]

Isn't that the guy I see on my TV trying to sell me smart meters?

[@Michael_1138]

I’m also a CD fan, Peter. I’m thrilled you got to talk to him.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Me too! I hope I didn’t fanboy out too much!

[@dirftboth20]

You did. Just like many of us would have. And it was great. @@drpeterboghossian

[@SatanLiterally]

The first season of the Terror is excellent if you like claustrophobic, suspense/horror. It's a fictionalized telling of the story of the ill-fated Franklin expidition for the Northwest Passage in the Arctic.

[@grannyannie2948]

I agree, I watched that

[@helenkane8594]

That was good what atmosphere! The sound really worked to making the feel of the show. Like Nomads that old Mctiernan movie, really penetrating powerful mood in that film.

[@suzybearheart530]

Ooh thanks for reminding about that one. I haven’t watched it yet but it looked really good!

[@blueberry212121]

It's amazing

[@1900dany]

I remember being so tired of Hollywood reusing old IP's when the Total Recall remake came out. That was what, 2012? Then Jurassic World really set me off, with it being clear they weren't bothering to truly try anymore, just pumping out big brand name series with minimal thought to the stories. Last few years I've instead gone back to older shows and movies I never found a chance to watch and am much happier.

[@alexgillis9446]

Imagine the ahem, 'person' who legit ok'ed the replacement of Schwarzenegger with...Colin Farrell??!!! Hope that person never worked again.

[@adamgates1142]

The movies were a problem well before wokeness took over. I remember watching Iron man in 2008 and thinking these superhero movies are getting old.

[@CC-ps7ct]

This is a cross-over I never thought I would see. I'm up for it.

[@GoogleAccount-so4ge]

Drinker without glasses … Superman effect (!) what a great interview !

[@jfb.8746]

Great collab!

[@amazingronaldo9656]

I was waiting to see if you guys mentioned B5 when running down Sci Fi shows! My favorite Sci Fi show ever!! I would put Expanse next for me. I am relatively afraid of JMS rebooting B5 because of the current culture in the entertainment industry and how much they will pressure him to put ideological elements into the show.

[@erichtomanek4739]

Great interview. A historical character that should have a movie: Charles Martel (The Hammer). But somehow I doubt it would be made.

[@jerome_dangelo]

Will has the sexiest accent since Sean Connery.

[@Pengalen]

Great guest. Also Peter reveals he has EXCELLENT taste in movies/television. B5, Farscape and Stargate ftw. Fantasy is also great. Unfortunate he cannot stomach horror. There's a lot of sci-fi/fantasy horror that is good.

[@00J-Tone]

I found the Drinker about a year and some change ago and he was an instant favorite. I'd see a review posted on his channel then go watch the movie i didnt plan to watch before just so I can watch his video and understand and fairly judge his criticism. The only criticism I have is he doesn't review everything!

[@adamgates1142]

He reviews children movies. I've never seen a "critic" with more shallow knowledge in all my life.

[@johnkrstyen]

My girlfriend never watched alot of film or TV shows. Me loving them started going through shows and films. For a bit we would watch one that I loved and would explore then Critical Drinker would about a week later do a review he does of older films and perfectly encapsulate why I enjoyed said movie so much. Me exposing her to Critical Drinker and other such channels breaking down film and TV has also made her a big fan

[@brianmeen2158]

Thanks for this. Critical drinker 👍👍👍

[@drpeterboghossian]

Agreed!

[@Blondie472]

You got this one back asswards.. Modern movies HATE the audience.

[@peteratkinson922]

Like modern jazz - the first music to 'turn its back on the audience'.

[@sumdood6784]

The problem with Stargate Universe is that a huge percentage of the airtime during the first season was "reality TV" style interviews of the characters. It packed 3-4 seasons of character development into the first season, but at the expense of replacing exciting action sequences with the kind of boring "reality show drama" crap that a lot of male viewers don't particularly enjoy. So viewership tanked through the first season, didn't recover during the second season, and it never got a third season. For the Stargate fans who managed to suffer through the first season, the second season was actually pretty enjoyable, and the cancellation at the end of it really sucked. The trouble is that most Stargate fans tuned out during the first season and never tuned back in.

[@duaneswab3420]

Farscape was definitely an "S-Tier" series and Stargate: Universe being cancelled because MGM could no longer afford to produce it was criminal. The first 5 episodes were awfully dark and the shaky camera caused me to feel nauseated but Season 2 it hit its stride, IMHO.

[@TheWillHadcroft]

Thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. I am a fan of you both. As a Brit, and a writer, my heart was warmed to know that Peter loves Blake's Seven and Doctor Who.

[@TheDiscriminatingGamer]

As a historian myself, I'd like to see a film about General George Marshall, or General J. Lawton Collins.

[@gregorypetrasuk4836]

Superb!

[@lasse4416]

Oh Peter&Drinker together! A surprise to be sure.. but a welcome one. 🥳

[@designforlife704]

Well here's a hell of a thing. I studied your epistemology techniques years ago when i chaired a secular society. I live in Will's town, same accent. Epic.

[@red-stapler574]

The issue is the audience is not the customer. Black Rock is the customer. They make the movies to sell to them to get money. Black Rock gets the money from the central banks. Black Rock does not care because once it fails, they can just buy up the burning embers of the company (in some cases, on behalf of the state). That might be by design.

[@steelcurtain187]

This is gonna be a great listen for me after

[@malikshabazz2065]

awesome stuff! :-)

[@SuperPico94]

Yees! Stargate Atlantis! Very good one! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@GeoffreyFischbein]

Oh i love this!

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you!

[@baddragonite]

Studios and writers tryna get those ESG scores up

[@richardscathouse]

If someone doesn't stand up to ESG soon there will be no more society. Perhaps that's their plan. 🤮🤮🤮👎

[@BryanWLepore]

Clever idea!