Why Avatarlife Can't Compete with Second Life

Dive into the virtual world showdown: Avatarlife vs. Second Life. Uncover the truth behind free land offers, performance, and content controversies. Choose wisely, explore wisely. Your ultimate virtual experience awaits. #secondlife #avatarlife #virtualworlds
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[@slexandthecity]

Quick update I missed in the video: To verify your Avatar Life account, you're required to upload a real-life ID document, like a passport, driver's license, or any other government-issued ID card. Plus, the name on this document must match the name on the PayPal account you use to purchase Av$. This is a major red flag for me. Also, it seems spell check isn't on their priority list. Stay informed and cautious.

[@AthenaSchroedinger]

Yet another good reason not to even go there to explore.

[@slexandthecity]

@@AthenaSchroedingerDoes SL ask us to verify any IDs? I can't remember.

[@andrewforbes146]

@@slexandthecity No they do not

[@WolfCatalyst]

For SL I needed to provide my drivers license and a picture of me holding it before they would update my address (couldn't get into skilled gaming areas). However, I asked them not to store my ID, and they confirmed they deleted it from the help desk once I was verified.

[@slexandthecity]

@@WolfCatalystI don't remember having to provide any ID on SL, unless it depends on the country, I am not sure.

[@MissLemonTea]

I have been in Sl for 18 years and I left last year, SL NEVER cared for members all they think about is money, in SL if you are not a premium you are put aside, I have moved my self and my creations to Avatar life and I love it more, Staff are super helpful, Support is Fast and I have 3 Regions of my own to create and build my stuff. Thank goodness I found Avatar life.

[@AthenaSchroedinger]

I've never heard of this Avatarlife, thank you for profiling it. As one who is a builder in Second Life, I'm very bothered that content creations are being used seemingly without the Second Life creator's permission. So I'll not even go there even to explore. My home is in Second Life.

[@slexandthecity]

You're definitely not missing out, especially as a Second Life resident. Exploring Avatarlife feels quite bland in comparison to SL. The fact that both platforms are similar might explain why items from SL can be ported to Avatarlife, though I'm not entirely sure about the technical specifics. The most important thing is to stay where creativity and respect for creators' rights flourish, and that's undoubtedly Second Life.

[@LauraCI]

At SL i found a lot of copybot. And whrn i was at Avatarlife, i saw they dont copy by themselves The things were brought ftom OS. I really think if you are talking so hard about Avatarlife is cause they are growing a lot. People is great there, such friendly, and the support is amazing and quick, not as SL is. We dont need pay to have good support. And Avatarlife begin 3 years ago as a betting place. They have just 1 year as social and RP place. And they are having new creators... if a creator has an account at Avatarlife, i know they take off all the copies from another OS. I suffering that... 😉 And Second Life is a crap. A lot of lag everywhere and all commercial places. The nice places for play or jhst chat with friends are gone. Is all about money, not fun. And a lot a people. like me, want fun.

[@stayingfitandfocused]

didn't even know people were still in there

[@LauraCI]

@@stayingfitandfocused Well, there are many things you don't know. And I haven't seen so much claims when there are copybots within the same SL, because there are many. It seems that AVL is growing, and, in fact, today there are more creators there, and more participants every day. Do you want to see a Second Life? Well, they won't see it because it's very different in the treatment of people and users and there is friendship between the people who are there. I don't think any of you saw the beginnings of SL, otherwise you would understand a little more. And yes, there are more and more of us.

[@freya33]

@@LauraCI What are you even on about? "And I haven't seen so much bias when there are copybots within the same SL, because there are many." - utter bull from a creators perspective. creators have been battling copybotters since SL begun. Bias against thieves? Weird reasoning you have, you sit in comments defending illegal redistribution of copyrighted content. 🥴

[@LorreH]

I love Avatarlife! You do not need a paid membership to get free land, you can get 1/4 SIM with 3750 prims...FREE. People in Avatarlife are very kind. Also, which was not mentioned in this video, Firestorm is compatible with Avatarlife. Also, if anyone joined back in the beginning of Secondlife, they know how things were glitchy and not as they are today. AvatarLife, yes is a new platform and growing and improving daily. I am a builder and creator in Secondlife, but have moved my items to AvatartLife and yes, my items sell. I am so glad I found Avatarlife, I rarely log into Secondlife anymore. As far as the items you find in Avatarlife, that you also see in Secondlife, they are FREE, never ever sold to make a profit. I find it amusing this video, nobody is trying to compete nor take down Secondlife. She points out the marketplace...oh I remember Secondlife's XSTREET Market, that you had to put L's into an ATM to buy from it, then you had to be sure you were online to even receive your purchase. So this video is comparing apples to oranges. This all said, whichever world you choose to be in...Remember...Always be kind!

[@imaginethat41]

Second Life does offer the source code for other worlds, most of them never take off and often creators sell on multiple worlds.

[@slexandthecity]

I do realise creators sell in different worlds, as some of the ones I know also create for the Sims. In this case though, their creations are given away for free when on Second Life they have to be purchased.

[@JohnCrawford1979]

@imaginethat41 - the OpenSim grids can be personal and unique. Lke I mentioned in an earlier post, I have an old grid on my Win XP laptop. I was active in a few worlds back between 2010 - 2015. The transition to mesh was slower for the residents there, who were more comfortable with sculpties and flexiprims. But I made a few mesh avies using Avastar and MakeHuman. It was fun, creative times.

[@Draxtor]

Second Life still around????

[@TiaShaw.]

Yes draxx. miss ya.

[@Tomahawk588]

Have you time to compare Second Life verses IMVU?

[@slexandthecity]

From what I know about IMVU, although there are some similarities, they are different platforms. However, I will make a video comparing them.

[@VulcanOnWheels]

Thanks for the comparison, but the music nearly overpowers your voice, from time to time.

[@slexandthecity]

I am so sorry; I just realised that literally 10 minutes ago while listening to one of my videos on my phone with earphones. On my Mac it sounds fine. I'll be more mindful with future videos. Thanks for watching and the feedback.

[@darklibury]

All of the free items have been copy bottled from SL. I found lelutka heads and mesh body’s. Doux hair and more. The free land is a fun bonus

[@slexandthecity]

I did not find any shops beside the ones at the back of the 'welcome' (or unwelcome lol) HUB, but I trust Alicia and the content I saw being used everywhere.

[@LauraCI]

The copybot from another grids and as in SL, indeed.

[@LauraCI]

@@slexandthecity Now theres some stores from creators there. You just dont search well...

[@karinamuzz]

I created an account in Avatar Life, I have downloaded the app, but when I try to log in it warns me that there is an error. I tried a lot to solve it but it doesn't work

[@slexandthecity]

Sorry, I can't help you there. I am a Second Life advocate :)

[@LauraCI]

You can do it with Firestorm for OS, as you can read at the webpage too. I had same problem, but with Firestorm was ok.

[@kdeeuk]

the owner is a scammer was indited for running phone scams in india look him up on google

[@LorreH]

You can use Firestorm, which it states when you join Avatarlife

[@Eriickk4Love]

wow!!

[@sdube001]

Thank you for this video. I had an invite to join AvatarLife when I logged into SL today. The most I did was view the website and videos. I'm am not only NOT impressed, but the fact SL items are being transferred there, likely without the originators knowledge is appalling.

[@LauraCI]

Thats why Avatarlife doesnt copy stuffs from SL. Just brought stuffs from other OpenSim (when Avatarlife was an open place, now they are closed).

[@freya33]

@@LauraCI Illegal distribution of copyright protected content is illegal distribution of copyright protected content. You must be trolling with these comments.

[@LauraCI]

@@freya33 HAHAHAHAHAHA and more hahahahaha

[@livelovely4681]

I understand that secondlife has been a large part of your life and you have a positive associate with it, however.... I don't get the blind loyalty to a company that has done nothing significant for it's consumer base in the last 2 decades. Not to mention a company complicit with the promotion and simulation of child abuse on it's grid.

[@beastiekat4562]

Second Life has kept advancing over the years mesh, bento anims, bento mesh, pbr, moved to a cloud, better member benefits, new linden homes.. and so many other things as well as they're always updating things! It's not blind loyalty lol and to call it such is pretty ignorant. Second Life has more content, original content, interesting places to explore, diverse communities, it's own economy, and a community that has been around for decades and growing. As far as the allegations go, no place on social media, online gaming, virtual worlds.. not any of it is "safe" and honestly never will be because any sicko can get access to a computer and the internet. The company has not been proven to be complicit in anything and there is currently an investigation that is ongoing & many questionable places have been shut down. There were no child abuse allegations there were ageplay allegations (two different things) but both very disgusting. i will add this though (there is ageplay) in Avatar Life but no one has written a huge blog about it yet.

[@JohnCrawford1979]

Avatar Life is essentially and Opensim grid. I wasn't impressed with it. It's been a while since I explored Opensim grids. I still have an old version on my Win XP laptop that I sometimes check out for nostalgia of the pioneer days. There are/were good Opensim grids that had a thriving community, such as Craft Grid, which was all about free and open source creativity. There is/was also 3rd Rock Grid, which which was one of the first adopters of Opensim, next to the Opensim grid itself.

[@LauraCI]

if you have an old version at your Windows XP, you dont saw Avatarlife. It dont run in that windows... and the grid have 3 years old.

[@JohnCrawford1979]

@@LauraCI - You misunderstand, I have an old version of opensimulator that I can run on my old Win XP laptop. I've been on Avatar Life on my much newer laptop that runs various Linux distros. Currently, my main internal drive is on Fedora 40 Beta, with Plasma 6, Wayland, and Hyprland. But I do use Arch, Garuda being my favorite Distro in the Arch fork of distros. ArcoLinux behind it, since both have versions of their distros with Hyprland pre-installed. I had to install Hyprland manually on Fedora, and it took about 2 tries before I got it working as well as I wanted it to. Anyways, Avatar Life is what it is. Unfortunately, many OpenSim grids are dying out. 3rd Rock Grid had to close because one maintainer left and can't be found again, and another died. The remaining maintainers don't know how to get into their server, so they decided to close it all down. 3rd Rock Grid had been one of the more active community grids since as far back as 2009.

[@freya33]

Avatar life is full of stolen content including my own.

[@LauraCI]

At SL theres a lot of stolen stuffs... And if they are "stolen" things, they will have been from other grids, because the things that are there are either old things, from creators who no longer exist in SL, and EVERYTHING was brought from other grids for free, it was not copied directly from SL and taken to AVL. AVL must be growing a lot for there to be people complaining against them and not against the older grids, like Sacrarium or Osgrid, which are the ones that copy the most from SL (and where most other grids get things from).

[@freya33]

@@LauraCI Avatar life is full of banned copybotters who are not allowed on SL. I am not aware of other grids but I was made aware of my stolen content via promotional videos by avatar life account here on youtube. Stealing is always wrong. I don't care who stole it first, if you are hosting stolen content you are guilty.

[@LauraCI]

@@freya33 cry again...

[@sushantchandrasekar4235]

Hi @freya33 if you can identify your creations, AvatarLife is happy to take it down. We appreciate the hard work of creators like you. Being a creator myself , we are only too willing to work with creators who are passionate about creating great stuff!

[@rayt5788]

Second Life is better ! I use 14 years Avatar in SL is more real is like Real skin, hair, animation, etc.....

[@slexandthecity]

Second Life has 20 years history. It will be hard to beat that ...

[@LorreH]

I also have been in Secondlife for over 14 years and my Avatarlife avatar looks great!

[@purpleonii]

Ohh i seen somepne make too video about avatarlife and looked worse than right now. Right Now it looks like copy paste of second life tbh and btw. nice video

[@andrewforbes146]

Dont worry lindens labs will buy them and shut it down with any luck lol

[@slexandthecity]

I doubt LL would buy a shady business, and they are so shady they are no threat to SL.

[@LauraCI]

They will dont do that. Actually Linden Lab doesnt exist anymore...

[@beastiekat4562]

@@LauraCI Linden Labs still exists lol

[@LauraCI]

Hon, Linden Research, Inc. was acquired by an investment group led by Randy Waterfield and Brad Oberwager in 2020. Closing of the acquisition was subject to regulatory approval from U.S. financial regulators regarding Tilia Inc.'s status as a licensed money transmitter, as well as other customary closing conditions. Following the closing, Mr. Waterfield and Mr. Oberwager joined the board of directors of Linden Research, Inc. Linden Lab no longer exists. Linden Research, yes. In fact, if you buy linden, you will see that Tilia is handling the money, not Linden Labs.

[@beastiekat4562]

@@LauraCI I already know about the sale... but! Linden Lab still exists just because there was a sale does not mean it no longer exists. Tilia is a subsidiary of LL, Tilia is a financial services company that emerged from Linden Lab. The linden lab offices are still up and running lol they just helped us comply with US laws and regulations, this way we would not get shutdown... Like i said Linden Lab is still running and just because a company changes hands (as many do) does not mean it no longer exists lol. I'll say it one last time. the offices are still open, functioning websites and working employees LL is still open.

[@SimlikeitHot]

They all look the same to me...creepy and robotic...

[@LorreH]

They are far from the same, you can make your avatar unique, just like in SL

[@tessdeleeuw9441]

What is see here is a direct attack to Avatarlife. Based on assumptions and not directly facts. Surely there are items from other creators but then go then any opensim and you will find the same items out there for ages. Have you talked with the owners or members? No. I see lots of new creators joining that are done with Second Life due many reasons. So i assume you got paid by someone that has interest in putting AvatarLife in a bad daylight rather then knowing facts.

[@slexandthecity]

I haven't been sponsored or compensated by any party. An unexpected message prompted me to explore Avatarlife, touting its superiority and speed, leading me to join and investigate firsthand. My videos reflect my genuine opinions, uninfluenced by financial incentives. I'm open to reviewing products or services, though I offer no guarantees of a favourable outcome. Curiously, if Avatarlife truly excels, why resort to persistent spamming on Second Life and its Facebook groups? A genuine company would invest in legitimate advertising if necessary, rather than spam their competitors to gain attention.

[@tessdeleeuw9441]

@@slexandthecity First of all i cant agree with Spam. I like the way you compare with a grid 20 years old and one 3 years as you assume. Why compare websites where Linden has hands full with developers where avatarlife only has 1 ? Its Like comparing Apple with Pears I was born in SL in 2006 so i defo know how they started and yes for sure they have the leading role in being first with all. Does it tell you something the creator of Zyngo and famous scripters of AOS Gaming joined avatarlife. Guess all for a good reason.

[@WolfCatalyst]

​@@tessdeleeuw9441 ​ Unless i misunderstood your context and by "cant agree with spam", you mean " cant condone spam", there's threads all over reddit and everywhere about the spam they're getting inside SL and on the Facebook page. Spam isn't an opinion, it's a real thing. My apology if I misunderstood your context. As for why creators would join another platform, they see an opportunity to make more money without the rules and overhead implemented by LL and that's all there is to it. Also to mention, they can convert everything they've worked on in SL without too much work and run both with no real financial risk to themselves. The only issues I've had moving between SL and an OpenSim are with physics, not scripts. Always trace the money and you'll find the answers. That said, if you're having fun in SL or AvatarLife, great. Have fun. As for me though, even without YT videos, reddit posts, SL spam messages etc., everything about it has my gut warning me not to give them my credit card info, and I always go with my gut. 🙃

[@beastiekat4562]

​@@tessdeleeuw9441 Many creators dip their toes in many different virtual worlds and games to make more income that is not something new and does not mean they've left Second Life 😂 also just because someone has a differing opinion than your own does not mean they were paid to express that opinion. You saying that "Surely there are items from other creators but then go then any opensim and you will find the same items out there for ages" is you simply trying to condone content theft, if avatar life is so great! they should be able to mesh all of their own stuff from the ground up. They allow the theft to continue simply because they're unable to create anything unique and sustainable which is why they wont last. They will continue to attract users who just expect everything to be free in turn their world will never grow.

[@freya33]

Will someone reimburse original creators for the stolen content that is distributed without our permission for free and for sale in the Avatarlife? I have spotted my own content in the very PROMO videos by AvatarLife. Majority of the content I have seen is stolen. I never gave permission to copybot my items and place them on their grid.