Why Being Skinny Used to Be Easier

[@TheAtlantic]

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[@KenWang2]

Too many burgers caused the obesity epidemic

[@PraveenSrJ01]

@@KenWang2I definitely agree

[@jctai100]

Thesis chasers; We sleep less and have higher anxiety nowadays, both have direct and indirect effects.

[@HiAdrian]

Yes, that too! I notice fat loss when I sleep better (am less anxious), after a short time.

[@brimstone33]

We spend a butt load of time sitting and staring at screens rather than moving around. Or going to sleep. While self-flagellating with artificial self-created social media "stress". Poor Millenials have it so hard...boohoohoo. And nothing is ever their own fault. There are a LOT more restriction on environmental chemicals in the U.S. today than there were 30 years ago, and a lot more is known about drug side effect. The diet of the typical American in the 1980's was way LESS healthy than even of that today. "Organic" food was nearly unheard of, people were "carbing up" before a workout, low fat but high carb "health" foods helped start a diabesity epidemic that continues to worsen to this day, people would look at you like you have two heads if you had said the words "probiotic" or "gut health", and margarine, stuffed with deadly hydrogenated trans fats, was touted far and wide as a "cure" for butter! I don't buy one word of this politically slanted psuedo-science propaganda piece. It is just more disinformation aimed at dividing us and making younger people seem entitled to feel somehow "oppressed" because Baby Boomers made them fat! Life expectancy has increased more than five years since 1980. Stop whining!

[@kdilli6426]

And we eat a lot more processed foods and sugar...

[@Fievelavie]

We sleep less because we all have computers,mobile phones,tablets with social media. Communication goes faster but we are moving less. In the old days you walked more, you went to stores to buy something instead of ordering stuff online. Instead of messaging colleagues u walked to them to talk.

[@brimstone33]

@@kdilli6426 No. People ate even more Cheetos and Oreos in the '80s than they do now. And most folks were actually fooled into thinking highly processed food like "Wonder Bread" and "Special K" cereal were health foods.

[@Fourestgump]

Food is also much more easily available today than it was in the 80’s. You can get any type of food you want delivered to you at any time of the day. Back in the 80’s you were more likely to eat at home too.

[@leJpeg]

That's true. Also, people today eat out a lot more than they did back then

[@pattyayers]

Haha.. I’ve never yet been able to afford that. It’s really only for the rich and/or very wasteful

[@michaelcraig9449]

Food was so hard to find in the 80's!! You had to run and catch it, and it was FAST!!

[@michaelcraig9449]

@H No Tv dinners, my skin is turning green, tv dinners, this ones kind of mean.

[@michaelcraig9449]

@@leJpeg No they dont. They did it just as much then or more.

[@End3rWi99in]

Think the bigger difference is the rise in high carb and sugar snacks that were being introduced in the 1970's and 1980's. The sugar industry made a huge lobbying push in the late 1970's and it made its biggest impact over time on obesity moving into the 1990's and 2000's. It seems we're just starting to catch wind and try to curtail it very recently. Also accepting different body types should of course be encouraged, but I'm not sure celebrating obesity is exactly the right course either.

[@cattysplat]

This was sold to the public and government as the "war on fat", the logic being fat makes you fat, which resulted in sugar replacing fats in most products, which turned out made you gain weight, increased metabolism so you ate more and gained addictions to sugar which lead to diabetes. The dieting and supplement industry was also sold as being good and healthy for the general populace. If anything diets almost universally create more weight gain once the person inevitably quits the diet, there is endless research proving this yet people still believe in fad diets. Body acceptance is mostly bad, since people will believe it is OK to be overweight despite their body screaming at them in agony to stop abusing themselves with endless health problems, when truth is that treating and surgical procedures for overweight people is the most expensive area of healthcare today, hospitals can barely keep up with demand when they should be focused on people with real illnesses and it is the biggest killer of human beings in the modern world whilst being almost entirely diet dependant and self controllable.

[@archiej6386]

Sugar doesn't make you fat??

[@ashtrid_0149]

Archie j Sugar doesn’t help, sugar or glucose will be burned off but a small amount of glucose will be stored as fat. It’s best to keep sugar intake to 35 grams a day for added sugar.

[@2010sinnamon]

Thats true

[@catsupchutney]

I think so. My logic is that there is an entire food product industry with smart PhDs working full time to craft food that is more seductive and difficult to resist. Should we be surprise that they succeeded?

[@bobtaylor170]

What shocks me are two things: the numbers of middle aged people who are in wheelchairs because obesity has worn their legs out, and especially the numbers of obese young people. In the 80s, when I was in my 20s and 30s, obesity in young adults was virtually unknown, or so memory informs me.

[@nosugrefalsi]

Did you not watch the video?

[@bobtaylor170]

@@nosugrefalsi , of course I watched it. Its points seemed inconclusive to me. They may be right. If they are, why don't we see far more obese people than we actually do, considering that most Americans eat like most other Americans? As for the middle aged, hasn't it tended to be a fact of life that middle aged people have usually needed to patrol their diets in ways they hadn't had to do when they were young? And as for the young, inasmuch as their diets are almost uniform, if the presence of these chemicals in our foods were the main culprit in youthful obesity, wouldn't the overwhelming majority of young people be obese?

[@fraserclayton7468]

@@bobtaylor170 I don't really know how you're saying young people's diet's are almost uniform, young people aren't a monolith they have just as much variation in their diet as anyone - in fact I would say they may have more variation given a higher rate of vegetarianism/veganism. The causes the video cited cause greater retention of energy/fat, so this means if someone has a 1000 calories a day more than someone else it will be harder for them to shed that excess intake than it was in the 80's, but obviously they are still eating more. I think the video is trying to focus on more obscure answers people may not have taken into account, but a major culprit is probably simply food in general is unhealthier now as companies generally find higher calorie products sell better, and people are eating larger portions and snacking when they didn't used to as much.

[@bobtaylor170]

@@fraserclayton7468 , young people's diets aren't a monolith, true. And as I was writing my reply to you, I was thinking of the trend to veganism which exists today. I don't know that a lot of people in the middle of the country - that is, most of the country - are enthusiastic about it, though. Additives notwithstanding - and I don't deny their possible significance - I'm still stunned by the almost shocking increase in obesity in the young, or for that matter, in most age groups. Here are other things we didn't see in the 80s: the preposterous, slobby clothing people wear today when dressing "casually," tattoos on women, piercings, muscular women, green hair, chartreuse hair, men wearing fingernail polish, etc. Standards have collapsed across the board in the last two generations, I'm afraid I think.

[@fraserclayton7468]

@@bobtaylor170 Those things have definitely increased - though if you look at the outlandishness of 80's celebrities (particularly musicians) some of whose trends did filter down to youth audiences i would say it's not completely different, their were certainly a lot of male musicians with mascara and painted nails and people wearing punk outfits and big hair and padded shoulders, etc. Of the things you listed though I guess I have a different perspective. None of them to me seem implicitly negative. People are doing those things because they presumably enjoy them and it has no (or at least shouldn't have) any effect on anyone else. What specific purpose do those subjective "standards" around dress/appearance serve beyond conformity for conformity's sake? I myself don't have tattoos, nor piercings, and don't smoke. I wear black jeans and a t-shirt pretty much constantly. But I like people to not feel obligated to be predictable. Really both the obesity and wider changes to attire are more a question of the pernicious effects of consumerism.

[@MichaelPolios]

Do we think that the decline in smoking might also contribute to the rise in obesity since the 80s?

[@beccaO0906]

I never considered that, but I agree with your thought. Not condoning smoking at all I want to add.

[@rachel8872]

@@jessicasmith7102 veggies are carbs

[@rachel8872]

@@jessicasmith7102 I eat mostly carbs and protein and very little fat and I'm at a healthy weight and bmi, carbs arent bad for you #sTuDyPleAsE

[@rachel8872]

@@jessicasmith7102 Fact, you can eat carbs and not fast and be healthy

[@rachel8872]

@@jessicasmith7102 where am I being aggressive, Jessica? Can you point it out? Cuz I cant see it

[@acetate909]

@2:10 Depression is the #1 cause of moping in tunnels.

[@Blaise88]

That spot weirdly got my attention because I swear it's in the Madrid metro, specifically some on line three (Embajadores to Acacias tunnel is what it looked like to me). Anyone else who's lived in Madrid able to back me up on this weird observation?

[@acetate909]

@@Blaise88 Now that you mention it I am seeing it as well. It looks like a European rail line entrance for sure. My grandparents are from Spain but I have never been so I'm only speculating. It doesn't appear to be American, plus there has never been a documented case of psychiatric depression in the States. Us Yankes maintain perfect mental health due to our fast food industry and nearly unregulated corporate pollution policies. Excuse me while I cry myself to sleep with a Big Mac.

[@odemata87]

Stock footage usually are hilarious

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

#2 is delays on the subway.

[@Liuhuayue]

I thought that was homelessness, but I still laughed and upvoted.

[@tadmarshall2739]

I wish the US banned all endocrine disrupters in food packaging (your first possible cause). The EU supports people, the US government supports industries.

[@Himmiefan]

Yes, here in the US, "good for business' is next to Godliness. No matter the administration, the FDA and EPA serve businesses (and major campaign donors) and not the American people.

[@GodbreadGilfredBiago]

Once you leave the US, you realize just how much it is all just about money in the US. It’s a somewhat ruthless society.

[@jonothandoeser]

The E.U. also suppoprts industries!

[@wiiretime3704]

It was called really good cocaine

[@gamerxyouthubecamp9624]

wiire time I agree to this!

[@lostinthelookingglas]

More people smoked in the 80s too

[@sophiaatn5339]

wiire time I was going to say

[@jhoang861]

LMAO!!!!

[@zbeast]

You beat me too it... Blow is the number one diet fuel... It offers pain relief, hunger suppression and energy.. Just what you need for a workout..

[@danielbakergill]

The audio mixing is annoying. I have to max my volume to hear the presenter.

[@dazednconfused31337]

I had to max the treble and turn the bass off to hear without waking the whole house up

[@danielbakergill]

@@dazednconfused31337 I considered changing my audio settings so it wouldn't be like trying to listen to a nursery rhyme on a jet engine, but decided it would be easier to select a new video.

[@matthewwild2233]

Hearing used to be easier, too.

[@danielbakergill]

@EaqIe Huh. Fascinating. I used to correct people when I was younger. Now I realize it's prickish and frequently inadvertently racist. Max your perspective.

[@danielbakergill]

@EaqIe Cool, I didn't realize you were dying on this hill. When you correct people who say "axe" instead of "ask" for instance, you're misunderstanding both culture and language. English is descriptive, not prescriptive. When a group of people spell or speak the language differently, then the language adopts those new changes. You can see this with the word "literally" today. Anyway, insisting on prescriptive language, that language is monolithic, easily defined and enforceable ignores the real life experiences of people who don't look like you. And if you do all that willingly, you might get called a racist by some youtube commenter.

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

No, it's not a good or a positive thing! You don't have to be "skinny" but you shouldn't be overweight or obese! There shouldn't even be plus-sized models. The fact of the matter is 20 years ago people didn't sit in front of computer screens sipping Starbucks all day like they do now.

[@akemi3759]

Exactly

[@nikkiw2548]

it also seems to be easier to be skinny in other parts of the world i’ve noticed. travelling to europe and eating their food, it seems like i’m eating more than usual but they’re food is just grown differently...

[@Tania-rg7jp]

Europeans also smoke regularly

[@Olivia-W]

​@@Tania-rg7jp Not any of my friends, and none of us struggle with fat (aside from one guy who has a genetic disorder).

[@goofygirl1311]

Do your friends walk everywhere and eat homemade food? If so, they are burning energy and aren't adding extra sugar, starches and oils to their cooking. It makes a difference. Fast food and prepared food may taste great but the calorie content is off the charts because of the unhealthy level of sugar, starches and fat.

[@veronikam3836]

@@Tania-rg7jp Not true. Greetings from a European.

[@jonothandoeser]

Grown differently, less processed, and packaged differently.

[@arwaelrayess2472]

I’ve always had a problem with celebrating obesity. Like I understand that everyone should be treated equally, regardless of body shape and weight, but when we continuously change being overweight into the “norm” we are indirectly telling future generations that this kind of thing is acceptable. When it shouldn’t be.

[@politereminder6284]

You should have the same issue with celebrating skinniness. That's also unhealthy in excess

[@politereminder6284]

@Кошка Agreed

[@kojikkooo]

This is the one. We understand that being bullied etc isn’t cool and everyone should love themselves however obesity and underweightness isn’t healthy for anyone.

[@annalauraabdallahcaldeira2280]

idk if you are talking about the body positivity movement, but I think you are, and if it is this is not a good argument, because when we put fat people in magazines, for example, or we show how beautiful these people are too, we’re talking about an environment where we can find all body types and have representation of all. for example, if a fashion magazine portraits a person that doesn’t have one of the arms, you can be sure that NO ONE will cut their arm of, they will just appreciate a different kind of beauty, and the people who have the same body or a similar one will feel better about themselves. so, is basically this: when we are “celebrating obesity” no one is telling you should be that way or that is better to be that way, the thing is that everyone should feel good in their own skin no matter how you look like!❤️

[@mrskaa7584]

@@annalauraabdallahcaldeira2280 obesity isn't a body type.

[@pupu2410]

This video forgot to mention that eating disorders were heavily glamorized and normalized back then.Being underweight was a huge flex in the 90s,at least for women.What was said in the video was true, but let's not pretend everything was better back then.

[@MJ31579]

Like how women on TV shows (like Friends) never gained weight eventhough the men did. It was just the pressure that was on them.

[@DaylanTheAngrySauerkraut]

I remember the heroin chic look, the glorification of "super models" , Princess Dianas almost celebrated bulimia, my Mum abusing laxatives called Ford Pills marketed to help with weight loss. All my parents and family virtually lived on cigarettes and laxatives

[@jenniferlloyd9574]

I didn't feel that the video was pretending everything was better back then. It seemed the video was demonstrating that it was easier to be thin in the 80's due to multiple factors. And it was easier. The majority of people weren't overweight. There was only one heavy person in my entire grade school in the 70's.

[@emryborge7027]

You know before the whole underweight thing became popular the majority of people wasn’t overweight either. Also nowadays the number of ed cases is higher than was in the 90s

[@Amanda-nc2yk]

Make Anorexia Great Again!! 😂

[@courtneymerkelbargo1452]

I've been struggling to lose weight for years now and just have resolved to making better food choices and generally eating less (but not starving myself of course)... I've found the #1 thing that has made me drop lbs is cooking and eating 95% of meals at home. Idk what the heck type of chemicals are in restaurant food or in prepackaged food (that I don't buy from the grocery store) but there's no doubt that they have prevented me from losing weight. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm generally being more active, stretching, walking instead of driving, drinking more water etc. fill in the blank with other healthy habits that I'm sure are helping me lose weight as well

[@ginterka381996]

That's great, keep going. 🤗 I live in Europe, in Poland, so I think it's a little easier for me to be more skinny. I walk to my job(I live not far away), I eat less sweets and don't drink soda.

[@blakeh8582]

Good for you!

[@romancetips365]

I have a serious problem because I can only lose weight when I vigorously exercise for 1 hour a day AND drop my caloric intake down to 850 calories, which is basically two very tiny and unsatisfying "meals" a day and it leaves me starving and ravenous. What's more the hunger pains seem way more intense than they ever used to when I was younger and if I don't eat I feel sick and faint. It's like I have no tolerance to refrain from food and my weight just steadily climbs as the 850 calorie diet is too hard to sustain. Many people have said they lose weight by doing the insanity workout. I did it for 8 months and I gained 10 pounds but looked leaner. I was not able to lose any weight restricting my calories to 1500 and doing the workout. I'm 5'4". I should be able to eat more and my body definitely requires more food to get the nutrients I need. I have begun to suspect that there are other factors at play other than simply diet and exercise.

[@courtneymerkelbargo1452]

Hi everyone - since I posted this I lost 60 lbs by diet alone! After that, I got pregnant and was able to get back to pre pregnancy weight without an issue. I'm still about 15 lbs heavier than my goal weight though. The first 60 lbs was all diet, hardly exercise, but now I'm exercising about an hour a day, 6 days a week for my heart health as well (half cardio, half strength training). These last lbs are much more stubborn lol but I believe with time they will slowly come off as long as I stay somewhat in a calorie deficit and keep my water intake up.

[@Loanshark753]

The real problem with eating food that you don't control the preparation of is the calorie density since it can increase from the addition of oil. Oil contains 900 kcal per hg

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

High Fructose Corn Syrup and a billion other chemicals.

[@Trump.Musk.Destroy.U.S]

Im with you! Its in everything we buy!!!

[@Trump.Musk.Destroy.U.S]

@@Fldonna Most kids never ate those school lunches. *_Paper Bagged It!_*

[@zackzack9341]

@Danijel Mornarić They just broke down the main cause of why we are 10% fatter now when we eat the same diet and do the same workout. Go watch the video again.

[@someguy2135]

@@Trump.Musk.Destroy.U.S Not if you buy your food from the produce aisles. Buy food, not products.

[@someguy2135]

@Danijel Mornarić Exercise is important, but studies have shown that what we eat determines our BMI.

[@ChristopherChavez]

EVERYTHING has sugar (corn syrup) in it nowadays. It's gotta be corn syrup. No doubt.

[@Anon0missX]

Specifically high fructose corn syrup is the Devil and it is soooooo cheap, and it's in everything. Introduced into foods since the late 70's / early 80's...and also see raising obesity since then.

[@BigGirthyRod]

Sugar kinda sus, vote sugar out.

[@Olivia-W]

Also constant stress. Lack of sleep.

[@BigRick50]

I think the Open Plan Living concept in modern homes plays a big role. Having your kitchen and Refrigerator and Living room combined makes snacking almost impossible to avoid.

[@alamc200]

Fast food "supersizing" started in the early 1990's and that contributed to the obesity problem. People used to eat smaller meal servings. Also people eat a lot more snacks than they used to. Growing up in the 1970's and 80's, we only ate at our mealtimes hardly ever did we snack in between. When we did it was fruit or just 1 or 2 cookies at most not the whole package. Only on special occasions like at the movies, ballgames, picnics, parties, we ate stuff like chips, cookies, popcorn and pastries. Now many people constantly snack all day on sugary, salty and starchy foods even when they're NOT hungry.

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@Gottenhimfella]

It is not a credible claim because there is no way to be sure that the nature, quantity and timing of what a group of people report eating today matches what was typical forty years ago.

[@folksurvival]

Correct.

[@lulun3724]

Organic food is expensive compared to fast food. The cost of living is super high leading to anxiety and depression. Food has changed in the way that it is processed which has led to obesity and multiple other issues.

[@maddiemadness0]

Mimi N facts my weight depends on how much money I’m making and I’m underweight

[@d.lawrence5670]

can u stop saying "super"? because it's "super" annoying

[@d.lawrence5670]

Sorry, Mimi. That was mean. I'm in a bad mood. Not your fault. I sincerely apologize.

[@goofygirl1311]

It depends on what you make. Over the weekend I got 2 packages of chicken on a buy one get one, marinated it and popped it on the grill. I served that along with a garden salad. I fed our family of 4 for $10 and we have leftovers for a couple of lunches. Good luck doing that at a fast food place.

[@delphi24]

I grew up in a family of 4 in the 80s. As an occasional dinner, we would get pizza. The 4 of us would share one, normal-sized pizza and that would be all. We were satiated, but would a family of 4 do that today? I don’t. 😂

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@Ldancingcat]

@Marygraphy did you even watch the video? It says even if people ate exactly the same amount as people in the 80s, they would still gain more weight today. This means on average, if everyone ate only two slices of pizza today regularly, they would gain more weight today than in the 80s. I know people who eat half as much as I do and exercise twice as much and are overweight whereas I am thin. Sure sometimes it's purely overeating, but as the video points out, exposure to plastics, chemicals, medications are are contributing to obesity

[@romancetips365]

Hey I'm obese and I can't eat a whole pizza. I only ever eat 2 or 3 pieces at most, and I only get pizza a few times a year. If I order a pizza I have to share it or eat it for the next 2 meals.

[@TheSilverwing999]

@@Ldancingcat I highly doubt this is the case. Literally tons of people nowadays are changing habits back to the older days and losing weight

[@Nicole-em9yo]

Yep. When I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, fast food was a treat. Now people eat it multiple times a week. For some people almost daily.

[@dillon7748]

You forgot to mention in the last 30 seconds in your feel-good fat acceptance montage that we’re not just heavier now but suffering from diabetes and heart disease at much higher rates. Also, I’ll just throw out there that the food pyramid was published in the late 70’s and since then meat consumption as a percentage of diet has significantly decreased and grain consumption has steadily increased along with those chronic diseases and obesity

[@sherriludwig4263]

You are so right, when I was growing up I can’t remember anyone being overweight and my school pictures show there were no fat people in my class. Being fat should never be acceptable and no we shouldn’t outright make fun of heavy people but we shouldn’t encourage it or make it acceptable I so agree with you. Overweight people actually get offended when they are told they are obese and that is their problem when they go to the Doctor. Everyone wants a pill to fix everything. Our fast food society and not wanting to cook and eat at home is also part of it. We shouldn’t be more accepting of being fat and glamorize it. It’s not ok being unhealthy.

[@cecirb2792]

I mean,,obviously accepting people’s body types is good and important..but obesity and diabetes are a serious issue. It’s not about hate towards obesity or diabetes, it’s the fact that they’re legitimately not healthy and should be cause for real concern in our world...

[@Luboman411]

True about the food additives. Japan is the one industrialized nation today with an adult obesity rate of less than 15%. Even Western European countries like France and Italy are slowly working up to 20% obesity rates. I went to Japan for two weeks in 2003. The food there is fresh and delicious EVERYWHERE. You could just taste it. I came back to the US and distinctly remember a chemical taste to the food here. It's nasty. This country is only too happy to pump people and food with chemicals, including antidepressants and all sorts of drugs (drug prescriptions are much lower in Europe and Japan).

[@3xitthissid3]

1) japan has a culture of fatshaming and a big diet culture with high ED rates. 2) that wass Japan in early 2000's. look at Japanese youtube channels. some will be consuming ready to eat frozen meal or food from convenient store which is also unhealthy. there's lots of unhealthy food options in Japan. china has an obesity epidemic among their kids. I think other Asian countries and European countries have healthier ways of staying fit without influence of diet culture

[@Confettifun]

Japan also has a ridiculously high suicide rate so idk what your point is on medications?

[@Confettifun]

Japan also has a ridiculously high suicide rate so idk what your point is on medications?

[@Nicole-fb6fr]

Same! I came back skinnier after my trip to Japan and I was eating a lot. The food is so good and fresh!

[@SephirothWaifu]

No offense, seen a documentary to tell me that Japan's food is certain NOT healthy as any other Asian food and I didn't need the documentary to realize that considering I love Nihon *.* and Asian food, etc. What I have understand that Asian are certainly, their body, skeleton types are generally built narrow and small, also there is metabolism-everyone's is different no matter what where some people can burn off fat better and more efficiently than other. But I certainly realize Asians eat in moderation a lot-some more some less. Though by personally I'd prefer my natural curves as to being averaged built then being ridiculously skinny where I have absolutely no shape and the clothes wearing lmao! Skinny scares me. But I have always for other cultures impressionable for me as a kid and taking up the eating habits of Asian people as influenced me a lot to take in their eating habits. Today when I try to splurge on Thanksgiving and Christmas, I end involuntarily throwing up all my food lmao! Exorcist style because I have conditioned my body to eat less and specific portions. I didn't know that would happen O.o but it's interesting.

[@MrNicoJac]

The host needs a new mic. Not one from a garage sale this time....

[@matthewryan3798]

Being skinner was easier due to people then not being as sedentary as people are now. Due to things like video games and home computing devices allowing to people to stay still longer, people gain weight from overeating. In the 80s and before, people had to move constantly, as technology such as arcade machines and computing devices weren't available for everyone, to access these technologies, you had to travel to places that had them.

[@jenniferlloyd9574]

Also, roller skating rinks and amusement parks were popular. People would go bike riding with friends. The telephone or meeting up. People nowadays have this odd puffiness and dullness that wasn't present before... People used to appear brighter eyed and more alert.

[@karld1791]

We’ve been making America more centered on driving and there are more people to drive creating more and more traffic. A kid can’t go out by themselves because they need a car so people are getting heavier earlier in life. Then they get a license and car and never walk again until they visit Europe or Disneyland villages modeled on Europe.

[@jonothandoeser]

80% of fat gain or loss is based on diet. Only 20% is affected by exercise.

[@ncooty]

Correlation does not imply causation. A "science writer" is not a scientist. A hypothesis is not a conclusion. This was a bunch of conjectures being cast as conclusions. It's completely irresponsible, and the single physician (researcher?) interviewed did not say anything that supported any of the wild hypotheses offered. This was terrible. Lots of _coulds_ and _mays_ in this piece without corresponding empirical, experimental results. In fact, for example, one might just as well conjecture that a degraded microbiome results in lower nutritional absorption, including processing (absorption) of hydrocarbons, leading to lower caloric absorption. And of course the piece had to end by insinuating that maybe obesity is good for some people. Fine, we don't need to judge obese people, but it's a disservice to pretend that obesity is a potentially healthy choice. All around, this was garbage.

[@lovepeacebliss]

and your credentials?

[@masterpainter78]

Its called Political Science and its entirely Scientific Poly Sci! Afterall if enough people say it than its TRUE! Like Global Warming was, see you cant even live in Florida since like 2005 cause the entire Florida is under 5 feet of water. Where have you been jeez.

[@ncooty]

@lovepeacebliss: PhD in quantitative methods and statistics (+ an MA and an MS), but everything in the OP was correct irrespective of my degrees.

[@jbhann]

The more important question, should be, what corporation or lobbyist do you work for? A person might have the degrees, but if the person works for a corporation which produces the chemicals being put into our foods, then you *_cannot_* trust that person. That person does not care about your health. That person only cares about his or her job. The person has no issues with injections highly toxic chemicals into your food, if they are being paid to do so.

[@ncooty]

@jb hann: That's just _ad hominem._ If you have sufficient critical-thinking skills and a reasonable education in science, you can evaluate the claims in the video or in the OP without having to resort to logical fallacies.

[@ThemanlyTor]

The last part of the video (4:10 to the end) is in my opinion pretty much undermining a big epidemic in the United States, and other western countries.

[@IanTheEarlobe]

Sure it’s harder to be skinny, but let’s not blame the environment completely. Let’s take some responsibility over what we eat and our exercise.

[@TheJwwinter]

but but all those ads of beautiful food, are we supposed to just look at it and not consume it ? And with the busy life style, how are we supposed to find time to exercise?

[@someguy2135]

Exercise is over rated for weight control. We should all do it consistantly, but diet is the key. Not only how much you eat, but which foods you eat. As Michael Pollan wrote: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

[@yescovenant452]

TheJwwinter you don’t need exercise to stay skinny if you create a caloric deficit. Just stop stuffing your face with food all the time.

[@zacharyrose3000]

People don’t have some mystic moral duty to be skinny, calm down

[@someguy2135]

@@zacharyrose3000 Being skinny is trivial. Being a healthy weight is a matter of life and death.

[@TVrawks301]

The fact that the EU has banned so many bad chemicals makes me want to try my luck at fixing my health and weight in Europe...I’m proud to be American but it really can be hard to get healthy when not even the FDA cares about what you put in your body.

[@Turtletoots3]

EU tends to ban things that would never be considered as additives or ingredients that haven't been demonstrated as safe yet as a precaution but it's not like it's that great here. EU approved aspartame following US' example despite it messing up the mice in lab experiments after all.

[@baum7des7lebens7]

We have sugars and fats too in Europe. The fruits and vegetables are BETTER in America. Have some discipline and eat those.

[@LauraMolina-LaDiabla]

Being genetically blessed with a slender, lanky, ectomorphic build is not the same thing as being underweight or “skinny”.

[@andre18762]

For a girl it’s a blessing, for a guy it’s a curse.

[@LauraMolina-LaDiabla]

XAR No man wants to be a pencil-neck geek compared to other men but many women prefer a man with a tall, lanky physique over the muscle bound meathead because they’re less threatening.

[@christinah.8504]

intermittent fasting. People back then weren't eating 6 small meals a day. Elevated insulin is a fat storing hormone. Insulin always goes up with the ingestion of food. Even healthy food. If insulin levels are always present in an elevated state, then you'll always be in a fat storing mode. People in the 70s ate but had much longer breaks between eating again. Nowadays, people eat when the wake up all the way up until they go to bed. Doctors and pharmaceuticals absolutely love it and greatly profit it from it.

[@jonothandoeser]

True... but not THAT many people are on those six meal diet plans. I'd say most do eat snacks between meals though. But I think they did that back then too.

[@KatelinCleveland97]

Back in Washington school it was 5 minutes and I don’t have time to finish my lunch

[@jonothandoeser]

correct

[@Liuhuayue]

I thought you would have also talked about the growth of portion sizes, especially in fast food (i.e. what is considered a small today was close to a medium back then).

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@simple.edits.]

right but a small now would be a medium then so if people in both times had a small the person now would be eating more

[@PhilMoskowitz]

That would place blame on individuals and they're personal choices, and we can't have that.

[@RomanNardone]

sorry. CHF isn't just as common for each "body type". I get we're trying to be accepting but let's not be in denial that at some point empowering poor bmi is rewarding self destructive behavior

[@ghostmemeboi]

Roman Nardone this is irrelevant to the video

[@RomanNardone]

@@ghostmemeboi they mention that specifically at the end of the video

[@YouVSMeTV]

So whats your field of expertise?

[@RomanNardone]

@@YouVSMeTV I mean I work in the medical field if that's what you're asking

[@YouVSMeTV]

@@RomanNardone I don't mean it to come off sounding like a prick. I just notice that people will always talk at length about something without having some kind of education or training in said field. That said, what do you think about what was said here for the most part?

[@1119-w3u]

There is no secret to this. I used to be obese, but lost 100lbs by just reducing carbs and calories. Carbs and calories swells your body and gives you that bloat fat feel as well. But recently I stopped eating over 2,000 cals and dropped 30lbs really fast in like 2 weeks (no exercise either) But then I started working out and then I went on keto (no sugar or cabs and kept cals at 1800 just shy of 2,000) man that's where I shredded my fat and lost so much weight and due to being on a protien and fat diet (keto) I build so much muscle at same time and it made my skin shrink normally and I got almost no loose skin, I have some but it's better to have a little bit than a lot. So that's what I did and I'm happy.

[@taplubambhos2869]

Really encouraging to read this. Gonna start myself

[@Olivia-W]

Low carb all the way! 1.5 years now :).

[@goofygirl1311]

I do best on a low carb diet. Just be careful with the cheese, nuts and oils because those calories can really add up. People don't want to hear it but it's possible to overeat on Keto, too. Just something to be aware of. You really do need to watch your macros - even too much protein can sabotage your weight loss efforts.

[@1119-w3u]

​@@goofygirl1311 True 👍🏽

[@kirisakow]

Guys you need to normalize the sound volume!!!! I spent my time swinging up and down between maxing the volume to hear the presenter, then having to lower it down by half as soon as Olga would start talking. Again and again... My microbiome didn't appreciate the stress and made me crave for an ice-cream. Well done, Atlantic.

[@orome9793]

There are a lot of "could be's" in this video. Also, doesn't the microbiome also change depending on your diet? I.e. you eat a lot of junk food and sweets and your gut bacteria adjusts making you crave more junk food and sweets. Some of it comes down to genetics, but a lot of it sill comes down to lifestyle. This video seems to be making a lot of excuses to be fat.

[@bluemooninthedaylight8073]

No, it's not. The video literally stated your second sentence. Science also changes as we understand things better, which the video also stated by saying this is a field we're only just starting to understand.

[@beanzbeanz]

They factored that out in the study apparently. It's objectively harder.

[@orome9793]

@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 Yeah, I started typing before that part in the video. But also before the dislaimer at the end "being thin doesn't necessarily mean being healthy" and the whole speel about fat acceptance and celebrating being fat. While saying "being thin doesn't necessarily mean being healthy" is technically true it's doublepeak that ignores the fact that being obese puts you at a much higher risk for heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and a whole host of other medical problems.

[@violentwildling8924]

Came here to say this. I question the chain of causation they've presented. I'm pretty sure being fat probably affects the microbiome. Maybe these changes make it harder to lose weight once you're fat, but I'm pretty sure that if the microbiome was the thing causing obesity I'd be 200 lbs. I've been on every antibiotic under the sun and I've always stayed the same weight.

[@madsfartagin2864]

Define "eating the same amount" described in the study

[@davmpls]

No need. It's speculative. There's no such research. We are in fact NOT eating the same amount. We're eating a great deal more.

[@roddyjen]

Mad Fartagain - “...for a given amount of caloric intake, macronutrient intake or leisure time physical activity, the predicted BMI was up to 2.3 kg/m2 higher in 2006 that in 1988 in the mutually adjusted model (P < 0.05).” That’s from the study’s summary. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1871403X15001210

[@roddyjen]

David Howe - The video never claimed that people are eating the same amount overall. But it does say that a person’s average BMI is higher now even when diet and exercise are the same (i.e. when you control for diet and exercise). Per the cited study’s summary: “Between 1971 and 2008, BMI, total caloric intake and carbohydrate intake increased 10-14%, and fat and protein intake decreased 5-9%. Between 1988 and 2006, frequency of leisure time physical activity increased 47-120%. However, for a given amount of caloric intake, macronutrient intake or leisure time physical activity, the predicted BMI was up to 2.3 kg/m2 higher in 2006 that in 1988 in the mutually adjusted model (P < 0.05).” www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1871403X15001210

[@ncooty]

It seems to me that the online summary provides insufficient detail to interpret anything, but it reads like the summary for a study plagued with poor measures and over-interpretation of non-experimental methods. Most research on nutrition is garbage, and this seems no different... but again, I wasn't able to access the full article.

[@madsfartagin2864]

@@roddyjen lol I am quoting directly from the video. Maybe they should change their wording when writing a script.

[@junyisang8672]

When I was a high schooler and soldier, I was fit and thin. Then I became sedentary and lazy in my mid 2os and became fat and obese. However, now in my early 30s, after a year of eating better, intermittent fasting, and regular gym time, I am back to a healthy weight and stronger than I have ever been. I couldn't be happier with the results!

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

Good work. 👍

[@someguy2135]

You are a good example to show that the chemicals in our environment do not have to make us fat.

[@barbaragremaud7033]

Yes. This is so behavioral-related. This video makes important points about toxins but does not emphasize the bottom line of eating less and better, and getting active.

[@shanonsnyder9450]

@@someguy2135 One person having a good experience doesn’t discount larger social realities involved.

[@d.lawrence5670]

OK, so environmental changes cause folks to be 10 pounds heavier than they normally would be. Well, that leaves another 50 pounds of flab needing an explanation. And I think we all know what that "explanation" is: fast food drive-thru, Hostess snacks, Pizza Hut, Keeblers cookies...

[@mynameisreallycool1]

That's the point, they're saying that all of these are factors, not that the chemicals we put into our food is the ONLY factor.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

@H No true. And this also goes the same for cell phones and the Internet, which causes laziness, a lack of desire to move around, and depression.

[@missmoxie9188]

10%

[@someguy2135]

I agree. Americans are now eating more fast food and processed food. That is much more significant than chemicals in our environment. Otherwise, we would all be overweight, instead of most of us. Countries around the world get more obese after American fast food becomes popular there. Those of us who eat right have a healthy BMI.

[@LSSYLondon]

10%... So a woman who would normally be 120 is now 144.

[@PhantomPhoton]

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[@k3w1b3an5]

I was a kid in the 70's. People didn't have a 12 pack of sugary soda in their home. It was too expensive. A Coke was a special treat you talked your mom into buying you when you passed a Coke machine. They came in 6.5 ounce and 10 ounce bottles. Today they come in 20 oz bottles. You can buy a 12 pack of 12 oz cans at any grocery store for $3. There were no sugary snacks in our homes either. On rare occasions mom would bake a pie or make some candy. Potato chips were a rare treat as well. The most common snack was popcorn which you had to make on the stove top (no microwave). I remember our town getting it's first fast food (McDonalds). It had no drive through. Video games and the internet did not exist. We only had 3 TV channels. I stayed outside playing football and baseball with neighborhood kids and always got mad when mom would make me come inside for lunch or dinner.

[@romancetips365]

You make good points but I only drink water and I am still overweight. I hate fizzy drinks and can't drink them. To me it tastes like drinking a bottle of syrup with too much fizz added.

[@notsurex]

@@romancetips365 that cus u eat your calories

[@notsurex]

this was how i was growing up. we never had ice cream in the house. only when we happen to pass a baskin and robbins, and we would get a small scoop, not a pint or 48oz. i remember on my 5th birthday i only had one slice of cake.

[@j.khuster2024]

​@@romancetips365 💯🦾✌️

[@folksurvival]

True.

[@DarlingStudent]

It really doesn't matter if fat is more accepted now. It's STILL NOT healthy.

[@PinoyAbnoy]

how about skinny outside but fat inside?

[@lunayoureright]

Exactly. And transgender people are the gender they were born. It doesn't matter what they BELIEVE they are.

[@jonothandoeser]

You shouldn't say that.

[@djayjp]

Yes because it's "ok to be fat" should be an accepted lifestyle in a society in the midst of a crippling obesity epidemic.

[@Verithiell]

shh dont worry, taxes have you covered in all your plus size glory

[@jonothandoeser]

Well... THE ATLANTIC so...

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

I don't know I watched GLOW (Desert Pollen) and it look like the 80s was more unhealthy than we thought. But that seems to be the point here. And is freaky that you could be doing a plant-based diet but yet your weight is affected by the chemicals in the bowl you eat salad from. But I really don't want to bring back the super lean and buns of Steel look as the end-all be-all again. I remember that there was some much crap going at Renee Zellweger gaining weight for Bridget Jones and yet she didn't look big at all, was just curvy. And Edie Falco, when she was playing Carmela Soprano, was referred to as looking fat by critics and she just looked like a normal woman in her thirties and forties but has Dem hips. I do not want to bring back the old fat shaming.

[@KatelinCleveland97]

Same

[@n00dle_king]

People who are obese shouldn't be ashamed or depressed, but they are absolutely not healthy. Despite it being harder to control your weight in recent years you are still responsible for your own health. Eating yourself into an early grave is no different than smoking. I don't care if you are a smoker, but it should not be celebrated.

[@heatherway25]

Yes. Well stated.

[@champagnemami888]

one of the biggest factors is just how available unhealthy and healthy food is too you. for example when I go to my home country, I always come back a few kg lighter because fast food is rarely ever eaten (or at least in the city i go), it’s more of a yearly thing. the food my aunt cooks me when I’m there is fresh with no chemicals or stuff like that, like dinner and lunch is always rice + a few sautéed veg and a portion of fish or meat. but then when I come back to the uk it’s all quickly gained back!

[@Travieso78702]

I'm in my 50s so I remember the 80s (class of 86). While some of what she says may be true, pesticides were around in the 80s. There was nothing organic in the 80s! What I have noticed most is the abundance of snack foods today compared to then. If you wanted to have popcorn you had to do it stovetop with Jiffy pop or get it all out and wait 10 or 20 minutes to cook. Now, it takes just 3 minutes in the microwave! Microwave ovens make preparing foods so quick. We didn't get a microwave until 1982. Before that, you only snacked maybe once per day and ate three meals because you actually had to cook meals which took time! Also, meals are huge compared to then. Now, the price of a larger soda at some restaurants are the same as a small. That was not the case in the 80s.

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@TheBandit7613]

People eat more and are not as active. Starts at childhood. Kids don't go out and play as much. They play video games and sit on the computer.

[@KatelinCleveland97]

I was active when I was a but now I don’t but everyone keeps calling me a fat pig when I gained more pounds

[@KatelinCleveland97]

My parents keeps calling me that I’m Lazy but im not that Lazy

[@mhypersonic]

Good info theres also a lot of sugar in our diet in larger portions.

[@neilbishop1686]

The problem today is right before your eyes at this very moment while you are reading this...too many devices...so little time...

[@bgregg55]

YES! It's in almost all processed food in abundance.

[@scj3188]

high fructose corn syrup*

[@Fi1del]

yeah id say people largely eat more sugar than fat in todays developed/westernized world since its in absolutely everything and it only gets exacerbated by the lack of fibre

[@zombievac]

Did you miss the key part that even with comparable diets and exercise people are still fatter? The whole point is it’s not just calories or diet, or exercise causing the epidemic.

[@JPITFTKD]

The main reason is that calorie dense foods are accessible and cheap.

[@lawrencetchen]

How I long for the days without emails… I'm pretty sure that 24/7 stress gets our cortisol axis all sorts of overstimulated

[@Scolecite]

What about the access to fast food chains compared to the 80's? You can't just pick out a couple factors over the course of 30 years and draw a conclusion.

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@PabloVeyrat]

Sure, fat shaming (and just shaming anyone for who they are) is wrong. However, the main reason to keep your weight within certain limits is medical: thinner people are healthier. Human bodies are designed to be in a certain way, and being fat correlates with lots of illnesses and a shorter life expectancy. I don’t think that should be forgotten. Being within a certain weight is not just a matter of aesthetics and choice, it’s also about what is good for you.

[@jenniferlloyd9574]

My sister has been nla nurse for decades. She said the drastically increasing number of overweight people has put a strain on medical worker's backs.

[@nickcox1408]

Fat shamming works

[@WondrousEarth]

It's widely reported too that children these days due to parents working, the sense that kids going out and just playing safely in their neighborhoods is considered more dangerous, sometimes in some areas for good reason. Also smoking cannabis certainly does cause the munchies, avoiding ice cream is especially difficult :)

[@politereminder6284]

Dunno about cannabis stats, but definitely kids , and adults played more and did more outdoorsy things back before cell phones.

[@angeladonofrio9920]

I dated a guy who would not let his 9 year old daughter out to play at all. It's was very weird and heartbreaking, especially since they lived right next door to a park! I also tried to feed her meals of the Mediterranean diet I grew up with (sardines, vegetables, beans, couscous etc.) and she had no taste for it at all. She was already obese at 9; I was a bean pole at her age. The parents of this country are ruining their kids.

[@WondrousEarth]

@@angeladonofrio9920 I agree it is sad that the man you dated would not let his daughter out to play, especially with a park nearby. He should have gone with her and just made sure he watched her. Obesity in our times is much more than it was when I was growing up. We were active, riding bikes, playing, walking to a friend's house.

[@KatelinCleveland97]

Same but parents have to work and have to go to school we are all busy

[@KatelinCleveland97]

@@angeladonofrio9920does she dance to music on her iPod?

[@gingerthetrailpup7223]

It is interesting how personal choice and responsibility are not addressed. I am the same weight I was in 1987 (when I stopped growing).

[@Ladraz]

Really depends, personal choice gets harder to be personal when from a young age people are bombarded by fast foods, bad science paid by food companies. Healthy foods are way more expensive or not accessible to some people. I have never meet anyone that wants to be fat. You can't use your personal experience as evidence to down play a massive change is society.

[@inuhundchien6041]

Policy makers never care about 'personal responsibilty'. Their job is to change the whole population, not some individuals. That's why they look at every little things.

[@jukodebu]

do you think thats changed from the 80s?

[@mayhewfisher62]

You're harshing our buzz here haha

[@Li-oz1ux]

Okay bruh

[@getboomersfit168]

This video is a big part of the problem. The whole "Do not judge" movement is not helping, it's merely making excuses for unhealthy behavior. The obesity rates have more than doubled since the 80's. Of course, we should not belittle overweight people but simply accepting all body types as "wonderful" is killing people.

[@stephen5147]

What a load of crap. There are no women who don't WANT to be skinny. Other body types are "accepted" because folks are not able to achieve their goal of being skinny.

[@FlyingSpring]

Why it was was easier to be skinnier in the 80s? 1) Probably 2) Maybe 3) It seams like (If you are not sure, why do you raise such a question before knowing the answer?) 4) It has a small but significant impact (how small and what is the level of significance?) "...investigates the plethora of complex factors that MAY BE contributing to our increasing BMI..." If you have the articles - provide the links. "...If you dont want to be skinny it is also fine..." - only when it is not disrupting the health. If the overweight harms your physical or mental condition - it is not fine to want not to be skinny. After this vid i feel like i just got bullshitted and the Atlantic is promoting the obesity.

[@barbaragremaud7033]

I agree!! Calling BS. People need to face the facts of what and how much they're eating. That is really the bottom line.

[@lionqueencuisine7358]

Finally a video that is covering this issue! EMFs also play a huge role in our deteriorating health.

[@Frugivorous]

It’s many things not just that lol.

[@emiitheastralwalker3791]

Yea I took Prozac for two years and gained 70lbs that I’ve managed to lose 20 of, but damn it’s hard to lose. I eat vegan, healthy, organic, but it’s hard to get the weight off.

[@sjthewolfbosschills]

I stopped taking mine because of how it made me feel numb. Dropped 35lbs. Learning to help depression in a more natural manner.

[@1234OTAKUANIME]

It's because fastfood and sweets were only eaten on special occasions back then. The rest of the time people ate homemade meals. People also went outside more. Today, it's normal to spend hours in front of their televisions and video games for entertainment instead of going out to meet friends unlike in the past.

[@acetate909]

So sitting and playing video games is worse than sitting and talking to friends? Got it. How many calories does "outside" burn as opposed to inside? My gym is inside. Should I seek out an outdoor gym for the health benefits afforded by outside.

[@1234OTAKUANIME]

Bow do you read a comment and turn it into something completely different?😂

[@acetate909]

@@1234OTAKUANIME Ya, I'm not sure _bow_ I did that.

[@acetate909]

@K Street Sitting outside is more strenuous than sitting indoors? Solid logic. How ape shit stupid of me. I didn't realise that I was dealing with MENSA elites. Thanks for the laughs.

[@acetate909]

@K Street No movement? I can't tell if you're being intentionally glib. I don't even play video game but any non brain damaged person understands that a video game player doesn't sit in one spot while playing games. Are you really trying to posit a scenario in which there is no expenditure of energy exerted by a player while gaming? Why do you think people leave sessions drenched in sweat? Besides the obvious arm and hand movement it creates an elevated heart rate well above that of an inactive body. On top of that people are getting up and walking around the house for various things during play. This will burn as much or more calories than driving to a park and sitting around with friends. This is all irrelevant though because my initial response was directed at the OPs assertion that being outside was somehow better than being inside. That comment made no reference to physical activity in the sentence, it was simply a statement of geographic certitude.

[@Matthew-rs4hb]

I knew a woman who forbade her kids to eat red dye number 4 which was found in twizzlers, jellybeans, and all sorts of candy, and then claimed her kids were healthy. But then I realized the only time one eats these chemicals is when you’re already eating highly processed foods with usually sugar. So maybe it’s not the chemical, it’s just the foods that one is eating

[@brentharlow3559]

Short answer food had less additives, portions were smaller, and we used to allow bullying. Giving someone a messed up nickname like Barbara dump truck or Donut Danny, and mocking them on the regular used to do wonders for self control, if not directly then by those poor unfortunates serving as a negative example for others to avoid.

[@ai.elijah]

They kind of diminish the message that it’s harder to stay thin nowadays when they end the video with “but everyone is healthy no matter what shape they are”

[@ineedhoez]

Easy peasy. If is the food. As a kid, we went to McDonald's on special occasions. Now, kids go every day after school.

[@alamc200]

Yes, and the quantity or serving sizes were less. Fast food "supersizing" started in the early 1990's and that contributed to the obesity problem.

[@TheSilverwing999]

What young people nowadays don't realize is that what food people ate in the 80s were way different than what we eat now. You think it's the same but it's not. My parents tell loads of stories about dishes that we have regularly now but didn't exist back then. We are literally just eating more shit than we used to. Also people just generally walked more. Even in Europe. There were no supermarkets for example so when my mum went with her mum to go shopping they had to walk there and also walk to every single store separately. Meat could only be found at the butchers, bread at the baker's, etc. You had to manually walk over and mail your post at the post office. Our lifestyles now are just ones of convenience and we have become so lazy. The best shape of my life was when I went to high school and had to take my bike to and from. 15 min of biking each way, every day. I've put on tons of kgs now because I don't have a need to move anywhere. I can just take the car or the train. And I'm not even obese. Obese people are even worse than this. All they do is sit or lie down.

[@crustycobs2669]

I'm told that frequent coke use had something to do with staying skinny for many in the '80's And they had more sex and lost even more weight, an older friend informed me of this

[@richardlawson6787]

Most people never used cocaine..to expensive and hard to get...but it is an excellent weight loss aid by killing appetite

[@gmar2662]

I’m skinny because of my genetics 🧬 back in high school I hated it because everyone was bigger than me and I was called names like anorexic, skeleton, death etc now that I’m in my early 20s and I decided to join the gym and now I love my body I love to have tone legs with a small waist :) I also notice that my mentality is very stable since I joined the gym 💪🏻 now I don’t just go lo be toned but because of my mentality sanity

[@barbaragremaud7033]

I don't doubt that these factors are making an impact, but bad food and large portions are also a huge problem. People eat way too much and really bad food.

[@Ldancingcat]

But they said in the video that even if they ate the same and exercised the same, they would still be heavier today.

[@bridaw8557]

It was rare in high school for there to be more than a few kids who were obese more than a few pounds. We don’t move around as much, high fructose corn syrup, no internet so we didn’t spend hours sitting, and the list goes on. It’s more about lifestyle. Micro biome may make us feel hungry and crave food, but it’s not as much a factor as this video says.

[@PraveenSrJ01]

I remember the good old days of the early 1990s where I moved around a lot in gym class as a child 👦

[@randomobserver8168]

This video was interesting and persuasive. I found it a little hard to believe we are worse on chemicals and processing than we were in the 80s, except maybe the BPA and other plastic issues. Hardly anybody drank bottled water in the 80s. It was considered something of an affectation. Plus a lot of what there was was Perrier, and it came in glass. [Also, fewer people carried water around with them, even in reusables. It was not widely considered necessary to carry water on your person at all times. We seemed better hydrated. Even now, I drink it all day but never have it on me when moving around. Go figure.] The drug thing I buy completely, more or less, whole classes of new drugs, many more people on them, probably more in the public water supply as well.

[@minacakes2]

interesting what you say about water. I've always felt like people are really overdoing it- humans today are the least physically active as a whole than humans before us b/c of so many advances in convenience technology- but we feel the need to be so hydrated that we have to carry water with us when the stuff is readily available (in America at least).

[@MrMarkhall1]

They were slim and healthy only these days we call them skinny.

[@miles1747]

I’m going hardcore organic and growing my food when I grow up

[@kakadoodoo3000]

There was no Internet. When students needed to do research, we had to physically go to libraries, and lift heavy encyclopedias. Schools in my area now have elevators, and air conditioned classrooms. Back in my day, we had to walk up stairs, and sweat it out in hot classrooms.

[@don0giorgio]

Yeah, eating more and moving less is not the reason at all, its all chemicals, drugs and microbiome, wasted 5 minutes of my life

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

It's eating too much. Exercise doesn't even affect weight a whole lot.

[@AvgJane19]

It's possible that the human body isn't as cut and dry as you've been led to believe. We are very, very complex organisms.

[@MilwaukeeF40C]

@@AvgJane19 Some things are just very, very straightforward and obvious.

[@jzen1455]

People are also muscular and doing more strength training these days than the heavy cardio focus of the 80s. That coupled with certain additives in foods and poor sleep are also likely contributes to higher weights.

[@rebeccaimanscott2011]

Very true my mom was in 20s in the 80s and she was healthy and well then. Now she is ill I hope she gets better soon ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@wheelzwheela]

Not stop sitting and snacking. Watching KZbin for hours.

[@cjthibeau4843]

Loving this series so far!!

[@usmcson3]

It's not hard at all. Stop eating more calories than you burn. Thats it.

[@DeadlyDeadlyBeees]

Seems like the only way to make it into a magazine is to (typically) be a size 0 or (more rarely) a size 18. What about us in-between fuckers??

[@linotte_]

Ugh, right?! And the size 18s are always unrealistically smoothed out with shapewear, full-body makeup, and professional retouching. No one naturally has a perfect hourglass figure when they’re obese. Body positivity is a farce - there was never a push for acceptance, just a push to market fashion, beauty & fitness products to wider (pardon the pun) demographics

[@BuzzLiteBeer]

The idea that chemicals in our products are responsible for disrupting our metabolism and thus causing weight gain is completely unsubstantiated and pure hypothetical conjecture at the moment; not enough evidence has been collected and no causal relationship has been established beyond a reasonable doubt. As a professional chemist, this video article is wildly irresponsible. This is entirely a guess. Processed foods are the only fairly clear cause of increased weight. Microbiome theory isn't perfect, but is a decent guess as well; we don't eat as many fermented food anymore.

[@mayadelaneys]

I've always been skinny, whether working out or sedentary, bad diet or good diet, on anti-depressants and off them. I realize everyone is different though. Maybe I just have a good microbiome.

[@jhoang861]

I don't know how old you are but if you're still young, great! But if you are approaching 40 and up, watch out!

[@alexjulius69]

You've won the lottery for sure

[@djgulston]

An abundance of fast food restaurants and processed foods and the rise of technology are the biggest cause. We have entertainment and food right in front of us all the time. We can literally order food from our phones, and we can watch Netflix and KZbin and play video games all day as our primary source of entertainment. We don't even necessarily have to go out to socialise. You can text, call, send voice notes or even play online games with your friends.

[@PraveenSrJ01]

Very great and well written comment. You definitely nailed it!

[@jroth87]

In 1998 the US changed the BMI obesity index slightly too (for the better) which is probably a large reason for changes in the early 2000’s. People who’s weight was normal were now overweight. Tracking this info and regular screenings can also be a factor. I’m not saying chemicals and surroundings down effect us, just that this story sounds like more conjecture than actual facts backed by several studies.

[@politereminder6284]

Is it really for the better, or just for the heavier? 🤔

[@PraveenSrJ01]

Hard to believe the 1980s was 40 years ago!! I am turning 40 next Friday on October 6th. I’m still skinny in the 2020s.

[@bgregg55]

Following the "low fat diet" advice the government pushed starting in the 70's has made the us fat. Overdosing on carbohydrates is the problem.

[@heyborttheeditor1608]

That is overly simplistic

[@scottriley9398]

It’s just trendier to be thick now. Flat butts were all the rage until Sir Mix-a-lot set us straight

[@esthergutierrez931]

Hahaha

[@lulun3724]

Scott Riley lol 😂 😂😂😂

[@goldenmoondrawer6784]

Its annoying to be genetically cursed with large legs and breasts it hinders my running and heat resistance because i over heat faster

[@c-light7624]

Ok, but what causes obesity? A healthy lifestyle? I know for me it’s ice cream, chicken pot pies, eating more than I need, and driving everywhere. Not healthy. When I walked every day, or ate only meat and green vegetables, I lost weight. Healthier. Chemicals, adverse affect of meds on body, and less probiotics: not healthy. Result: weight gain. Not healthy. They are implicitly telling us that being overweight is unhealthy. Notice how they said being skinny doesn’t mean you’re healthy and you can be fat if you want, but not vice versa? Why? Afraid of the potential backlash?

[@ReschJodSchin94]

I've been on antipsychotics for years and even lost weight in that time. This year I was prescribed seroquel and an SSRI on top of that. When I realized I gained weight, I started watching out for my eating habits, losing the extra pounds again. Meds are really not an excuse to be fat. If you suffer from depression, healthy food and exercising can even improve your mental health. These meds make you wanna eat, yes. But you can simply say "no" to these impulses and track your calories so you don't overeat.

[@Prettyboi_Lele]

Your not very educated are you or bright you need to do more research before spewing this rethoric because I have been on antipyschotics and they can physically make you gain more weight without a change to your diet or slow your metabolism so please research before saying this damaging comment

[@PeteS_1994]

It's funny that sugar wasn't mentioned much

[@footiemate03]

You can't deny facts, several studies have linked obesity and being over weight to higher risk of mortality and cardiac problems. As pointed out in this video, it is difficult but we should be striving for a healthy lifestyle instead of being in denial with the 'body positivity' trend

[@elioazar5103]

I don't mean to disagree and I do think body positivity has indeed brought many benefits to the mental health of those who adopted the movement. But: I do not think it is healthy to simply "accept" certain unhealthy extremes as "body types". No. We are supposed to be encouraging people to be healthy rather than die prematurely from cholesterol and diabetes. Too bad in the US healthcare actually cares more about making you ill and sucking out your money than about your health. So no, I don't believe in a perfect body type, but we cannot normalize while encouraging people to set their lives at risk maintaining an unhealthy consumerist lifestyle grounded in consumerism. We should be talking about positive change: it should be people's choice to live healthier lives, but that is not to say that anyone is condemned to a certain "body type". We are masters of our bodies, and we can change the fate of our health. So don't sell us positivity, sell us encouragement and a non-judgmental push towards a better life for us and our loved ones.

[@angeltesfayexo6909]

From *4:10** to **4:48* was unnecessary propaganda, if you’re talking about weight problems, fast food diet, lack of exercise, and health problems such diabetes and our decreasing aid of microbiome, is contradicting and dangerously misinformed to say that it is okay to accept body variations from extremely thin to obesity. Basically conveying that because it is harder to lose or maintain weight with dieting and exercise, you might as we let yourself go and do not resist...that mentality is a recipe for disaster because it potentially promotes to just go with the flow, whatever feels pleasurable do it...do not consider the aftermath consequences. That mentality promotes absence of discipline, it can lead to depression. Society is trying to have unlimited accessibility, easy life in every facet of our lives. While it seems appealing in an ideal world, having everything accessible makes us feel empty, worthless, unfulfilled, and depressed. Unconsciously and consciously we become accustomed to the accessibility without earning it and in turn we’re unhappy. Humans crave a need to accomplish and stay engaged. When we are fulfilled we are at our best state of emotions. Accepting what’s on the surface such a all variety of body although it is a great gesture for the general population, and sounds nice as a marketing ploy, it does not focus on the deeper problems that should be addressed more. Body acceptance to me is just another ploy for big business to just continue to expand their target market to make more money, manipulate you and your inner troubles with products, food, service that all in all you do not need...but desperately want it to fill the void that you’re improperly trying to fix, ignoring or unaware of... I understand, I do believe being accepting of your own body is a positive thing, but like everything to a certain extent. What about in the later years when your body begins to deteriorate and experience complications...obviously diet and exercise does not cheat death...but it can optimize your life significantly...if we stop caring about ourselves, then what’s the point of living...at the trajectory that society is heading...wanting to live your best life while self sabotaging should be just as tragic as suicide...both should be discussed and take on immediate action to prevent it

[@petitio_principii]

"Body types." "If you don't wanna be skinny, that's also fine." Actually, more established science says that there's no such thing as "fit fat." Any degree of overweight is bad for one's health. Of course, it's not the sole factor, so it can totally happen that someone overweight is _less unhealthy_ than someone skinny, but it's not really a "body type", is a metabolic disorder. People shouldn't be shunned for it, not anymore than someone myope should be, but they should seek to treat it, with a healthier diet.

[@cesces1817]

More Movement, more Smoking, more Sleeping, less Chemicals and Sugar.

[@rebeccaf.5119]

We also didn't eat between meals in the 80s. Hardly ever snacked and our portion sizes were smaller.

[@zakaryloreto6526]

Effects as stress, low sleep and overworking are said to cause fat, yet Japan which does all those to extreme degree has some of the skinniest people.

[@tehzoh]

Fat positivity was the smartest thing lunched by the sugar industry; even this report uses doublespeak of unhealthy fat body and progressive acceptance of fatness. Amazing. You people are insane.