Why Belarus is Forcing Migrants into Europe: Polish Migrant Crisis Explained - TLDR News

Over the last few weeks, Belarus (possibly with the support of Russia) has been manufacturing a migrant crisis in Europe - most notably in Poland. This has resulted in tens of thousands of migrants being flown to Belarus and then forced into Europe, being used as political pawns by Belarus' Alexander Lukashenko. So in this video we'll explain what's happening, why it's happening and what comes next.
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[@TLDRnewsEU]

UPDATE: On Thursday morning, Lukashenko threatened to cut off Russian gas supplies into Europe via the the Yamal-Europe pipeline [source: twitter.com/ntvru/status/1458739101805563909?s=20]

[@bolsov3370]

And Russia will agreed. 100℅. So Russian and Belorussian plot uncovered and no more evidences needed. This is hybrid war.

[@samuiltenev7121]

of course

[@DavidJBradshaw]

This what this has always been about, creating an excuse to cut off the gas supply to Europe. The EU having allowed it’s gas reserves to be run down to a dangerously low level has no defence against this and will have to capitulate once we get to that point.

[@riskinhos]

russia needs the money. not gonna happen.

[@Menno_3]

@@riskinhos Russia is probably banking on the EU caving on the Nord-stream 2 issue

[@prometheus7387]

Lukhashenko looks like your stereotypical villain so much, it's funny.

[@alexlaza5301]

Nah, he is just a puppet...

[@prometheus7387]

@@alexlaza5301 I mean, looks are deceiving ;)

[@TheKeinash]

Well Erdogan did the same thing which game Lukashenko some ideas

[@alexlaza5301]

​@@TheKeinash Stopping or allowing refugees to pass through your country is very different from bringing in refugees deliberately with intention of using them as weapons.

[@metatron-scribeofgod6572]

Give me 10 billion euro ,otherwise I will blow your borders. ( in heavy russian accents)

[@Brzerz]

Just to let you guys know belarusians don't approve Lukashenko's actions. God, we hate him not less than you. But today we have no opportunities to change the situation. I can only wish you to stay strong and defend your border until the end. Stay strong, Poland.

[@tamolamo4698]

No one here blames ordinary belarussians, we realize that cocoroach is screwing you guys as much as he screw us

[@Rubiagirl86]

I hope that Belarussians will find strength soon for a revolution in their country and they will defeat the Łukashenko and send him to prison

[@MrKakibuy]

@@Rubiagirl86 There will be no "revolution" in Belarus because Russia will immedietly intervene and 50%+ of the country are 1st language Russian speakers who have deep ties to Russia and will side with Russia.

[@likeAG6likeAG6]

@@MrKakibuy No, only about 15% max. The problem is that they all are millitary. If only NATO could do at least some sort of armed support that could be enough.

[@Brzerz]

@@MrKakibuy i really recommend you not writing shit about a country you know nothing about.

[@Nhosto]

Just to add - Lithuania has now also declared state of emergency at the boarder.

[@daoudaba1628]

No sympathy for the Polish state which invaded Irak and Afghanistan with NATO.Iraki immigrants are coming to you after you destroyed their state.Serve you right.

[@daoudaba1628]

No sympathy for the Polish state which invaded Irak and Afghanistan with NATO.Iraki immigrants are coming to you after you destroyed their state.Serve you right.

[@KlusekPospolity]

​@@daoudaba1628 Can't you fight for your own country? Cowards.

[@zylnexxd842]

@@daoudaba1628 Stfu. Do u think u are in any position to show sympathy

[@mentos93]

@@daoudaba1628 iraqi kurds were never a target for nato. The only one bombing northern iraq is turkey.

[@hyljix]

I support Poland 🇵🇱 ❤ and Lithuania 🇱🇹 ♥ From Finland 🇫🇮

[@botowner8623]

ja latvialle myös 🇫🇮❤🇱🇻

[@Myrtal2]

Kiitos Puolasta. Hyvä Suomi ja Puola!

[@hyljix]

@BLM BLM what's *your* point? Your comment had nothing to do with mine. And 80% are in the Lutheran church, even the flag is a cross. You're so ignorant..

[@hyljix]

@BLM BLM lmao you don't know anything about the country

[@hyljix]

@BLM BLM I get money from the government too. That doesn't mean they pay muslims to come here lmao. In fact there's talks about building a wall on the eastern border. But I hope you're happy being reminded that this country I Christian every time the flag flies

[@Art-mq4mt]

Stay strong Poland ! 👊❤️🇵🇱

[@Myriip]

German minister of foreign affairs just declared full solidarity with poland and that Lukaschenko is to blame. Stay strong brothers, you're the defenders of europe, once again!

[@georgedevries3992]

if only that minister showed the same sympathy and support for Greece who face the exact same fucking problem against the Sultan. Guess the German government favors Turks over Greeks. Such a pity. If Greece falls, then the rest of Europe follows in a matter of days.

[@wildmancartier]

@@georgedevries3992 how taking immigrants a fall for a nation? Just wondering

[@هوويينكيوما]

@@wildmancartier when your country is economically strong and is part of Nato and got a strong and very modern army you can't think of any threat , so you just think that immigrants are the threat

[@georgedevries3992]

@@wildmancartier well simple. You only have to look at what the Sultan does to N. Cyprus. He sends all those Muslim immigrats on that island nation (so that they can't escape easily) in order to boost the Muslim population. In a few years, when the Muslims will be in the majority compared to the Christians, he will be able to start making even more demands, through Ersin Tatar, that will allow him to have some form of power over there. In other words, he will try to take over the island using the immigrants as pawns. It's no secret that Erdogan sees the entirety of Cyprus as a protectorate of Turkey because we all know how stratigically important Cyprus is! And ofc, this dillema here goes for the entirety of the EU. It's no secret that many Eastern politicians and figureheads want to see Europe turn into an islamic "state", by using the immigrant card. My point is that, while the immigrants themselves aren't the enemy per se, they do however play a role in all this, even if themselves don't realize it, by allowing those Islamist politicians achieve their goal. If the EU nations continue to grant asylum to those immigrants at this rate well... Call me whatever you want if you disagree with me but Lukashenkovich, Erdie and by extesion Putinga can fuck right off.

[@georgedevries3992]

@@هوويينكيوما aight but I don't remember Greece being economically strong

[@WolfyOfHonor]

Some people compare Lukashenko tu Hitler, but that is not fair to Hitler. Lukashenko is more of a Mussolini.

[@aidanquiett668]

Yeah, the incompetency on Lukashenko's part really cements that

[@sandrogzirishvili6800]

hey even mussolini did better than he is doing. he overthrew a democratic government with a march on rome and even stylized an idiology (fascismo!). what did lukashenko do? mussolini at least had the balls to say there is a dictatorship lukashenko cant even muster up the courage to admit that

[@Hollywood2021]

It’s totally unfair to compare them. Hitler served in the military

[@deivydasbaksa3324]

@@Hollywood2021 Mussolini also did serve in the military he also was working for the british as a spy

[@kirpi7996]

Among Belarussians he is called the "Potato Führer"

[@fil18031999]

I think it is worth mentioning that the shots mentioned only came from the Belarusan side and were either blanks or purposefully missed

[@DaDunge]

They must be really sure that Russia will back them up because a war between Poland and Belarus would not be a long one.

[@aurelijus1]

@@DaDunge it wouldnt only be poland, lithuania and latvia would join poland aswell

[@DaDunge]

@@aurelijus1 I very much doubt they would. Unlike Poland they actually have a border with Russia.

[@thenormann3773]

@@aurelijus1 If Belarus is the one that begins hostilities, the whole of NATO would join, I doubt Lukashenko is that stupid, but if Poland is the one dumb enough to begin hostilities, then I'm sure Russia would help Belarus and that would be the end of Poland... again.

[@kyrkur]

@@DaDunge poland has a border with russia as well

[@toni8003]

I'm just happy that Poland, Lithuania and Latvia are taking this seriously and deploying troops to secure their borders. Otherwise this would be about as much of an embarrassing farce as it was in 2015

[@irma-108]

At 2015 crisis was made by putin.lukashenko good student ,doing the same thing now.Both of them are obssesed and dreaming about whole world to afraid of them.Lukashenko is fan of Hitler.Putin is fan of himself as tsar and desperately want to enlarge teritory.Thanks to Ukraine.They stoped him for now.Both of them are mad old komunists(with criminal past).But Lukashenko only can to shit at neighbours doors(literaly) .Putin more dangerous -have gass,army and atom bomb.We have to stop play their games.Any deals with terorists.

[@fixanddrive]

It is the Belarusan soldiers who shot fires waiting for the Polish reaction. They also blind Polish soldeirs with laser beams or stroboscopic light at nights.

[@yasminbaron6137]

This is a call for war

[@pilot7977]

what EU is not taking in migrants ?thats against humanity

[@yasminbaron6137]

@@pilot7977 Why are you no taking in homeless people for your home?????? Thi isagainst humanity!

[@antyspi4466]

6:48 - "The EU should be paying the EU" - Truly philosophical.

[@arrow1414]

Another way of saying "Robbing Peter to pay Paul"-or is it "Robbing Peter to pay-Peter"?

[@Nauda999]

Yeah, wrong text.

[@zapyrum]

@@klauspedersen2114 look at the text

[@JeremiCzarnecki]

Well, in another video TLDR explained why the EU is suing itself, so perhaps in due course...

[@soccerguy325]

@@zapyrum I think that was his point lol

[@giwrgosemdou6545]

Erdogan: uses people to blackmail Europe Lukashenko: write that down, write that down

[@jensb3490]

exactly - and the soft snowflake politicians in the EU will take them all, and on top of that pay billions to Belarus... It worked in Turkey, it worked somewhat in Libya. Who's next in line? 🤣😂🤣😂

[@richardque4952]

Thats included the democrat party.

[@jonb3150]

EU should have put massive sanctions on Turkey when they were using same tactics. Erdogan is all talk. When he shot a Russian jet down, Russia demanded an apology, Erdogan replied he would never apologize in million years. Russia put sanctions on him and and a few days later Erdogan with his tail between his legs humbly apologized and hasn't dare even so much as talk of Russia since then. EU could totally destroy the Turkey's economy if it wanted to, but because they are in NATO then EU is never willing to take them on.

[@billyjesus5442]

Not really, hes looking after 5 million at a cost of 80 billion. These wars are caused by your people by the way.

[@jonb3150]

@@jezreall7837 Nah, Erdogan went on his knees after only like a week later after talking all kinds of non sense to Russia. Rusisia was in no mood to negotiate with them on Libya or anything else. Russia was totally outraged, Turkey talked back trying to be the big men, in the end they sucked Putin's cock. It took only like 1-2 weeks to subdue Turkey with economic sanctions, and that was Russia which is not even an economic power nowhere nearly in the same sense as EU, USA or China.

[@ibadbayramov9927]

The main difference between Turkey and Belarus is Turkey really is a transit country for all the immigrants from Middle Eastern countries. On the other hand, it makes no sense that Belarus could be a transit country for migrants. This is a political move. The EU can’t let Lukashenko get what he wants.

[@tim3440]

Turkey also participates in this. They move over at Ankara. So Erdogan is just as bad.

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

the main difference is that you cannot hold a maritime border like you can hold a land border. you cross the barbed wire ? you get shot. but on the sea somehow you can't do that, international law is weird.

[@ibadbayramov9927]

@@tim3440 I am not praising Erdogan at all. All I am saying this is utterly disgraceful and unacceptable as this has been obviously driven by the political reasons.

[@slavzahariev3901]

Indeed I am not Erdogan fan but it is a fact that Turks absorbed about 3 mio migrants themselves. And they are border country.

[@ten_tego_teges]

Yeah, Turkey legitimately had those people arrive within it's borders. Lukashenko literally imports them...

[@cully7927]

I cant blame Poland for ignoring the requests of the EU and Amnesty to chill out. They have paid in blood, and fought extremely hard for their nation to exist as it does now. When supplies couldn't be dropped in and the soviet union wouldn't help, the polish resistance marched on. They are a justifiably proud nation and deserve every right to defend their freedoms.

[@piotrd.4850]

EU said that border must be protected - this is part of several EU treaties anyway. Poland HAD allowed humanitarian aid, just it wasn't let in by Belarus.

[@cully7927]

@@piotrd.4850 Yeah okay, that's something different though. I'm talking about what he said in the video. That the EU has asked Poland to deescalate the border with troops.

[@koczisek]

Thank you brother!

[@koczisek]

@@Whatareyoudoinnhere Huh? You mean he has powers over Russia? Aren't you mixing him up with Putin?

[@koczisek]

@@Whatareyoudoinnhere I believe Putin is already on his way to swallow Belarus. He has much greater potential to do it, than NATO or EU to pull it into own spheres of influence. It's all the effect of stupid egalitarian politics against the "last European dictator". In no way I like this guy, but western politics is like a play of insane malevolent kids, whereas Putin is simply a cold KGB agent.

[@giovannituber2827]

I'm with Poland on this! To migrate anywhere you want (without other side agreeing) is not a human right.

[@kreb7]

As someone saw Turkey try to do the same to Greece and threatens to do it again Defently Poland is right

[@ProximaCentauri88]

@@kreb7 Turks knows this game. They did this to Northern Cyprus.

[@harrelsonyee4467]

When you thought cartoon villains don't exist. Belarus: Hold my beer.

[@beatrix1120]

If you think he's cartoonish you should see Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow

[@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaa9]

If you think someone is too evil to be true you may want to check other sources of information. I'm not saying TL;DR is lying to incriminate Lukashenko or something like that, but if not biased they're at least a little too shallow sometimes. People are not two-dimensional and States must do do what's needed to ensure their survival. It's important to see the big picture and, for example, understand why Lukashenko is in fact still popular in Belarus besides all of hiss authoritarian adventures.

[@diegoaespitia]

this isnt cartoon villainy . this is modern warfare. attacking someone with modern weapons in this day and age is suicide. so sanctions are laid down and migrants are deployed. its a smart tactic really

[@hal6702]

WRONG ! the true villains are the progressive vagens who took control of the EU. Lukhashenko just plays the game.

[@allstarlord9110]

We see them as cartoon villains because we were lucky enough to have not been born there. We are safe in our countries but they are real unfortunately

[@Barttek]

I'm from Poland, I have some facts to add: 1:16 - it's worth to mention that many candidates in presidential elections in Belarus were put in jail, the opposition candidate who decided to run is in fact a wife of one of the imprisioned candidates (Siarhei Tsikhanouski) and decided to run as a sign of protest 5:00 - there's probably more than 4 thousands migrants at the border since in october alone there were 17.3 thousands of detected attempts of illegal border crossing. I think the 4 thousands number refers to situation close to just one border crossing where situation is the most heated. It should be also noted that there are also reports that migrants are held by the border by the Byelorussian border officers and often don't have access to water or food, some of them haven't eaten in days.

[@darkratoon5436]

for the first facts, they already did a video on the topic for those interested

[@bougies-encens-et-rituels]

Stay strong Poland, this is a think a declaration of war, using human shields. It's a terrible situation. You defend all Europeans

[@you-to-beornot-to-be9629]

You should really be fighting for the Freedom of Julian Assange..... lol...

[@VV-wi6ir]

We stay next to brave polish nation.. From Greece

[@antonh1709]

Well, if you are from Poland they you know that it was your country who initiated the "non-recognition" of Lukashenko and then all the sanctions, after the Ryanair plane incident. What are you surprised by?

[@rv6104]

Lukashenko looks like a classic cartoon villain

[@agathonchristianto9580]

Ehhh??? Why is he THE villain? Did he take part in sending his army to invade afghan? Shouldnt he be praised instead for helping the refugee to get a better life? (unlike those who was responsible for causing the refugee crisis in the first place)

[@harrelsonyee4467]

ikr

[@yardgharforge3157]

@@agathonchristianto9580 Who are you trying to fool? He literally took money from the Iraqis so that after bringing them to Belarus, he could throw them at the border to create a crisis out of nothing. He even talked about it himself.

[@TheBlobik]

@@agathonchristianto9580 How is getting beaten by Belarussian security forces better? Belarussians even threaten people with burning alive. Thats how humane they are. And in case of Afghanis, the 20 years under occupation were the best years for those people. Sadly, they destroyed what was given to them in a matter of months. They are not escaping the invading army after all. They are escaping they own contrymen.

[@royaletuber4915]

@@TheBlobik What are you talking about?Do you have any idea about the fact that the afghanistan government was deeply corrupt?They stole millions.

[@pawellojko74]

Stop confusing the victim with the perpetrator. Poland is defending its (and the EU) borders from the hybrid war waged by the Lukashenko's regime. Poland is not responsible for the current situation, and even more so it should not be even remotely implied that it is somehow escalating the situation by defending its borders or that the Polish response is somehow creating the crisis - the responsibility for the situation lays solely with the despotic regime of Belarus. Furthermore, the shots were fired only by the Belarus side - would be good if you could rectify this, or state your source/evidence for the claims you make. There is only one perpetrator in this situation - the Lukashenko's regime - so please make it very clear and unambiguous.

[@piotrd.4850]

Lukashenko has nothing to do with this. Look up to his Big Bear Brother behind him.

[@wavell14]

This is a leftist channel mate

[@jannegrey593]

@@piotrd.4850 Lukashenko is known for trying to get "upper hand" on Putin through his schemes. This one seems like it's his idea of Pressuring EU, but since EU didn't budge it now costs him more - so he is losing influence on Putin. Of course his influence is already very small and I have no doubt that Russia knew of this scheme. But I think it was his plan that had at first silent approval from Moscow. Because at worst for Russia - Belarus and Lukashenko will be blamed for this.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

He and his team are sniveling Brits and EU shills.

[@KingRichardfirst]

Congratulations to 🇵🇱 Poland! We all should follow Poland’s example.

[@Ryanlexz]

Western Europe gonna turn Islamic in the future if they keep continue this practice LMAO 😂😂

[@god-incarnate]

@@Ryanlexz What do you mean?

[@userlog2474]

@@Ryanlexz what's wrong with that

[@Nakadeba]

@@Ryanlexz hope not

[@userlog2474]

@「 Deadpoppin 」 Not a valid answer.

[@NICO12981]

Russia keeps trying to separate european countries with this. They want us less united, they want us pointing the finger at each other, we can’t allow them to let this happen. Let’s support our polish, lithuanian and latvian friends. There might be cultural differences between the west and the east, but we have to stay united. Chodź Polsko!

[@jmarsh5485]

All the while getting closer to Turkey 'solving' their problems with migration coming in from Serbia. Weaponising migrants is just a new despicable unfortunately.

[@NICO12981]

@@jmarsh5485 Not only from Serbia sadly, with Turkey military in western Lybia, they can also push them towards Italy from the Mediterranean :/

[@mchmchmch111]

Thanks for this words of support. We need it very much right now.

[@Karthagast]

@@mchmchmch111 Spaniard here. Be sure entire European Union, including Spain, supports Poland in this struggle. Moreover, I think other European countries should start moving troops to the Poland-Belarus border, and put them under Polish command, in order to make crystal clear for Lukhashenko what is he facing at that border.

[@antonh1709]

@@Karthagast European countries moving troops? In hopes that Lukashenko's military all dies from laughing?

[@TheBlobik]

I think we should call it Belarus Migrant Crisis. I mean, Polish response might not be ideal, but lets not forget who is the perpetrator. And, Lukashenko targets Lithuania and Latvia as well, so putting Poland in the center is a bit misleading. And there exist a few possible keys to solve the problem, sadly they mostly lay outside of the affected countries. 1st: the migrant target countries could consider making the Schengen application easier for people who have relatives in their territory. Those people mostly claim to have relatives in Germany / France / etc. But they could not get a visa to reconnect. If they could, they would fly in directly and ask for asylum where they want. And if they indeed have relatives who integrated into the society, they are the best kind of refugee to have. Altering visa procedures would decrease the flow of people going to Belarus - why go around, when you can legally go directly, after all. 2nd: the possibility to use current deal with Turkey could be used. Right now many people fly to Minsk from Istanbul, meaning that deporting them back to Istanbul should be covered by current deal with Erdogan. Then all those who do not want to just exit the trap they naively put themselves in could do that. Frontex budget should be adjusted to be able to cover for those return trips. 3rd: EU could officially acknowledge, that Putin is behind Lukashenko, and even if he wasn't inspirator, the best way to influence Lukashenka is by influencing Putin. So EU could say it will not certify Nord Stream 2 until Lukashenka stops. 4th: Ireland companies should end the lease of their planes to Belavia. Cause right now EU-owned planes are used for trafficking people into Belarus, which is unacceptable. On top of that, EU could start to sanction any airline that flies into Belarus. Basically strangle the air traffic going there. 5th: There exists also a solution external to the EU. Ukraine should be granted help to increase its transit capacity for Chinese goods, and the Chinese should be encouraged to use the Ukrainian route. After sufficient capacity will be provided for transit on the Ukraininan route, Poland will be able to stop transit via Belarus by shutting down a key rail terminal. Currently a big chunk of Lukashenkos income comes from transit. Cutting him off from that money will soften him up.

[@snare5903]

Should be called the Belarusian tourist crisis.

[@beepoboopo546]

@@snare5903 oh yeah cause tourists love to be beaten and commanded at gunpoint

[@josh77577]

@@beepoboopo546 They go to Belarus on a tourist visa. That is what he is referring to.

[@TheBlobik]

@@josh77577 That is probably the worst (and hardest to judge) thing. On one hand, those people are able to find the information on the internet about belarussian "tourist" trips on the internet, they fear persecution or escape from some dictator, they pay huge sums of money for travel, yet they behave as if they were unable to also find the information, that they are giving themselves to one of the most brutal dictators, and on top of that a declared enemy of the countries they are trying to get in. I can sympathize with their hardships, but do they really excuse the irrationality of their actions? Hard to decide honestly.

[@josh77577]

@@TheBlobik They just want to get into Germany. No one wants to stay in Poland lol.

[@renataskandrotas7808]

As a Lithuanian, I should add that hundreds of them are moving towards Lithuania or are already at the border. Tensions are rising and State of Emergency is approved at the border area

[@bougies-encens-et-rituels]

I read the information about the state of emergency in Lithuania. Difficult moment for 3 countries at this moment. You're under attack, but propaganda wants to show you as the bad countries.

[@miia4049]

State of emergency concerning using migrants as a tool for hybrid influencing is still disputed issue in Finland. Russia being our neighbour should be a wakeup call amongst politicians in this issue.

[@jeesperi9679]

For fucks sake, keep them at bay, otherwise they will head to Finland and Sweden right away!

[@mytravls]

How many migrants are currently living in Lithuania? I hate to write this, but these people know that they will get asylum. They came in with full families.

[@Kamil-qf2xp]

@@mytravls what asylum. According to international law you should seek asylum in closest safe county. Lithuania And Poland took many political refugees from Belarus and Ukraine. This guys from middle East and Africa are rich person. Belarus charging over 4000$ for visa and fly so no chance that their life ar indanger. They fly to Belarus so stay there. If you want to be in Poland so they should fly to Poland

[@Corezina]

Please stop calling "russian invasion" as "migrant crisis". Stay strong Poland 🇵🇱 from Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@Fish_Priest]

Worth to mention, from 2003 Byelarussia and Russia are signed to consolidate as a one country. Any effort made by Lukaszenko are inspired or allowed by Putin. That's why Poland is very sceptical about Nord Stream 2, pro ecological (pro gas imported from the east) politics of UE and is sort of isolated in EU, which Russia is trying to exploit.

[@SuperAerie]

Everyone should be sceptical of nordstream 2 imo.

[@Fish_Priest]

@@makomaro it's not case ov leverage, but proces abd distribution, by now Poland can buy gas directly from Russia. With NS2 there is need for negotiating with Germany too, taking theirs fee or eco policies if have to.

[@Angelheart78]

@@makomaro are so many energy alternatives I say we should f..k Russian gas and focus our science to provide the solutions which we know are there and very accessible if all EU decide to work together for our own good and keep away from Russian saboteurs coz are desperate same as Arab states if nobody in future will be interested in their natural resources than they will suck their tumb watching the world flourish under their jealous eyes .

[@lexiusugrymius9392]

@@Angelheart78 where were your alternatives last winter?

[@Angelheart78]

@@lexiusugrymius9392 you know no pain no gain . With some sacrifices energy can be sorted as we all know nature provided alternatives or why not to say science nuclear energy, hydroelectric, solar energy, wind turbines, hydrogen if will be enough investments in research secured from Russian spies and also so many other alternatives can be discovered but of course must be kept away from saboteurs like Russia who will never be happy to see simple solutions are discovered in this matter and will do absolutely anything to make sure nothing better than their resources will come up from worldwide research .

[@twojstarypijany3182]

The funniest thing is that legal border crossings between Poland and Belarus are on average ~32km apart from each other, which means the longest distance to walk on average is ~16km. This means that from any point on the border it would take at most 1,5 days to get to a border crosssing point. Poland did not close those crossings, just made sure no illigals are getting in without proper papers

[@16PiotrEX]

But there are photos from border crossings where Belarussian military is securing them frsm migrants and pushing the migrants away from border crossings. All of this is because belarus is a major transit country and Łukaszenko is scared of the possibility of closing those crossings.

[@TheBlobik]

@@16PiotrEX Well, most of those crossings arent that important for Lukashenko. The most vital point is the rail crossing and terminal through which most of the transit goes. It is considered to shut this off to force Belarus to behave, but first a detour via Ukraine needs to be provided. Otherwise that transit will go via Russia, and this will mean we will make Belarus more reliant on Russia without solving the crisis (as Putin will gladly shield Lukashenka from damage in the short run)

[@riskinhos]

1,5 days? LOL wut. you crawl? 16km is like 6 hours maximum on a very slow pace and stopping several times

[@REgamesplayer]

Borders are just a thin line between jurisdiction of one nation and another. It is not dozens of kilometers of land owned by neither nation. It is funny how internet is full of people talking with absolute certainty what they do not know.

[@ThePaciorr]

@@riskinhos 4km/h is a march speed

[@agrajmishra6128]

This is just unfair to poland ....

[@nipheria5250]

Yeah Poland's geography being stuck between the Western and Eastern European powers really suck.

[@kasetoast8354]

@@nipheria5250 They should decide on which side they would like to be ;)

[@L3szy]

@@kasetoast8354 We try to take the best of both worlds ;-) Poland is such a buffer. Every time the East and the West managed to temporarily conquer Poland, sooner or later it ended in a short circuit and a world war because the East was in direct contact with the West.

[@piotrd.4850]

Poland be like: welp, business as usual... though, Poland brought it upon itself really. After 3 decades is still is not independent from Russian hydrocarbons and trade with East; it has laughing stock of economy ( 3x smaller than South Korea and much less modern ) and token military. It bound itself to political block which is demonstrably NOT interested in supporting Poland, just thinly veiled exploitation. It had allowed 2 mln of ex-Soviet (Ukrainian, Chechen, Belorusian, Russian) migrants into country already. Support for all uniformed services is all time low and various astroturfed NGOs are allowed to roam freely without as much as media response.

[@catastoic]

@@piotrd.4850 You have zero knowledge of economy, try dealing with something less complex next time. Dont overestimate yourself.

[@catchargdgd934]

either way this sounds like a war crime or crime against humanity and Alexander Lukashenko should be held accountable

[@B3RyL]

Forced expulsion IS a crime against humanity. Human trafficking IS a crime against humanity. There is no doubt that what Lukashenko is doing IS criminal in nature. But, he can get away with this because he has the backing of Putin. Whatever sanctions the rest of the world impose on Belarus, Russia can cover for, making them meaningless. Unless the world recognizes the true villain here, which is Putin, Belarus can keep trafficking migrants indefinitely.

[@Mic_Glow]

How? Will he show up personally before UN or European court and go to jail? More sanctions= belarusian people will suffer, not the higher ups. Also Russia and probably China wouldn't apply sanctions so they wouldn't be very effective anyway. Also from N. Korea experience.... no amount of sanctions seems to work against a dictatorship.

[@guntamgil1]

How about the leaders of there home countries???

[@georgedevries3992]

@@Mic_Glow Eh.... it's at least something. Otherwise what else can be done? Oh ik. West vs East. WW3. I can already see the different front lines and theaters. One is in the Mediterranean and the Aegean between Greece and Turkey with the help of the French. The other at Poland where Germany, most likely, will help them (since Germany despises Greece) fight off Belarus and Russia. And ofc the US will have it's own battles to fight against it's nemesis. A grim future for sure but...

[@MrKakibuy]

@@B3RyL More sanctions on Belarus will be a victory for Putin, it will make Belarus even more deeply dependent on Russia until a full unification of the countries happen.

[@radosaworman7628]

That’s rare that this material isn’t awful. Inaccuracies and unmentioned things: -As I’m aware the polish side is ordered to not shoot back until they are confirmed hits on polish soldiers as moust shots fired from Belorussian side are blind (that is only powder with no solid projectile). -Poland declared state of emergency only in near-border regions. -The Russian security border guard where spotted on PL-BLR border as far as September and their presence didn’t cease since (different insignia and clothing as well as equipment). -There where also tu-160 (analog to American b-1) bombers spotted near polish borders - type only operated by Russia (video available on KZbin) Therefore it is not unreasonable to assume that they are ready to escalate and the Russian troops are still in Belorus in close to same noumbers to zapad exercises from month ago.

[@heyoa7714]

You forgot that those immigrants don’t want Eastern European countries they say we want Germany, we want sweden! They have high standards…

[@julienzajac4843]

Of course why would you stay in Poland?

[@jakubrks]

@@julienzajac4843 :(

[@julienzajac4843]

@@jakubrks nothing against Poland but Germany already has way more kurdish and afghan community's.

[@Ryanlexz]

Western Europe gonna turn Islamic in the future if they keep continue this practice LMAO 😂😂

[@heyoa7714]

@@julienzajac4843polish people themselves don’t want to stay in 99% white slavs based Poland because it’s backwards country with no jobs. Look the UK is full of them alone.

[@Frameton.]

I don't see a way out of this without sanctions against Russia. Belarus can just keep this scheme up as long as mother Russia is happy

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I mean the EU could just take in the migrents it will solve the crisis while making Belrus look bad.

[@aidanquiett668]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough the EU forcing countries to take in migrants hasnt done well in the past, and it will probably be worse if its caused by active attempts to destabilize EU member states by Belarus

[@claw836]

Yeah but the eu cant do that because russia would turn off the gas pipes.

[@tim3440]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Then they will just keep flying people in. Honestly most stupid idea ever. Just call this out as an act of war and if it continues invade that shitty state.

[@tim3440]

@@claw836 Nah, we have Norway and in that matter the US most likely will get it. Also highly doubt Turkey will support Russia in this matter because those 2 also dont like each other.

[@lusciouslucius]

it s not a migrant crisis but a hybrid attack by lukashenkos regime

[@alexandrelarsac9115]

Nope. From Russia through Belarus.

[@lusciouslucius]

@@alexandrelarsac9115 its more like a powerstruggle between luka and putin, who by pushing luka to attack Poland isolates him, weaken him and can easier swap luka with his new puppet when belorussian ppl get pissed off,cuz keeping belarus in this state costs putins regime billions

[@Jablicek]

If we weren't so dependent on Russian gas this would be less of an issue.

[@anthony2384]

Nord stream 2 is being built as we speak isn’t it? This is will not end well if the EU can’t cut off this dependency.

[@jurgenkoks9142]

@@anthony2384 we can thank the german green party for that who stupidly made merkel shut down most of the nuclear plants they had... now they need to suck russian gas for power... I hope they will find another solution for their problem.

[@lordpolish2727]

tell that to Germany

[@antonh1709]

@@anthony2384 it's already built and is ready to start supplying gas.

[@antonpavlov9019]

@@jurgenkoks9142 Was it stupidity, or maybe Putin was the mastermind there also? )))

[@Ivanfpcs]

Germany needs to help Poland, Latvia and Lithuania! We can't turn a blind eye to this!!

[@kasetoast8354]

Offer the refugees to come in, so that we can send them back to their countries would be a way, without playing the game on the shoulders of innocent human lives.

[@Galvars]

And Germany did offer help, equipment and own men, don't know about Latvia and Lithuania but Polish government refuse.

[@kosa9662]

@@Galvars Becouse Germans offered Polish gouvernament that they will be joint polish-german police patrols but on POLISH-GERMAN border...

[@Galvars]

@@kosa9662 That was proposition from October. Three days ago German Minister of Interior in interview said he supported Poland's actions to secure the border and urges the EU to act as soon as possible. Also other official from ministry confirm that Germany can send "very fast" Police units to support Poland if only Polish government will ask for that. So use most actual data, not from last month one.

[@HeinRichKocHPretoria]

Germany should stop accepting migrants.

[@Voix1000x]

This is a crime.

[@dY5FUNCT10N4L]

Call the police

[@wronaona]

\_/

[@OurLordandSaviorSigmar]

@UpNorth international law. This is state-sponsored human trafficking.

[@jayfraxtea]

Belarus is allowed to let foreigners in the country and to let them leave the country. Poland is allowed to protect its borders. The only illegal actions are the illegal border crossings of the migrants, but since Poland is preventing most of them, there is very little crime.

[@daoudaba1628]

@@wronaona Hey,an African here.This is Not a relevant place to ask for help.Dont you see in the comments that Polish are the poorest in Europe ?

[@zwhsantwnopoylos5972]

Greece supports Poland , HOLD THE LINE

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

support from france too 👍 make sure he keeps every single one of his migrants, he invited them, he keeps them.

[@hal6702]

Only the progressive Vagens from EU do not support this cause.

[@willempasterkamp862]

EU : migrants welcome, we need more

[@kronniichiwa9909]

@@willempasterkamp862 *EU politicians:

[@dominationsrebellion6433]

Italian and spanish should learn from Poland how to control a Border. Respect ✊ poland 🇵🇱

[@Alex-df4lt]

Germany made an "excellent" choice by increasing its energy dependency on the eastern bear.

[@att1743]

Disgusting that someone exploits other people's desperation for a better life... but then again, Lukashenko *is* a politician...

[@Buggylt]

Na hes a dictator.

[@att1743]

@@Buggylt nope, he’s still a politician, just extremely authoritarian.

[@beatrix1120]

He's so blatantly evil, it would almost be funny if it weren't so sad

[@Buggylt]

@@att1743 when you rig "elections" you are a dictator.

[@panzerhund8511]

People were escaping from him to Poland through border, so he used refugees so Poles would build a wall.

[@HusieK576]

Where did you read that Polish autorities fired shots?

[@ElliotArc]

There’s a official statement of polish officials that they use warning shots when group of migrants manage to sneak through the border. But apparently it stopped there. Migrants turn back after that.

[@SpazzyMcGee1337]

It wouldn't be the first time that foreigners dressed as Polish soldiers fired shots to manufacture a conflict.

[@foralv256]

How is Poland putting soldiers on the borders, and not bending, not de-escalating "bad for everyone"? It is bad for the migrants obviously, it is bad for Belarus because their pressure won't work. However it is good for Poland/EU, it makes us look strong, no?

[@ediearcher7224]

Escalation. If Poland increases its military presence at the border, then Belarus will increase their military presence, which will cause Poland to increase their military presence again, which will cause Belarus to increase theirs, etc.

[@mykhaylovarvarin9078]

@@ediearcher7224 if Lukashenka starts WW3 over this, that would be pretty hilarious. Guess, we should memorize oath of allegiance and get a medkit ready

[@Menno_3]

I'd consider being blown to bits by a nuke pretty bad

[@TheBlobik]

I am from Poland and I do understand the strong stance. I do hope however, that some solution to limit this tragedy will happen, cause this certainly does not make one feel good knowing that people die. Even if they are partially responsible for their own mistake, and even if Poland were to bear a tiny-tiny fraction of responsibility still would feel better to know we did try to limit the size of this tragedy. I do hope that current stance is buying time to get a working solution in place. One that will stop the influx of people to Belarus. And then I hope that those who already got here will have a chance to escape that trap they naively got themselves in.

[@OverusedArgument]

One big downside is that by not letting asylum seekers in, Poland is in direct violation of international law. EU supporting that is pretty suspect as well. Like, of course Lukashenko is the big baddie in this, but his (government’s) unlawful actions don’t suspend Poland’s obligations to follow international law. The treaty doesn’t have an “oh shit” clause where it stops being in force when things get rough.

[@ppali11]

"shots fired between Polish and Belarussian soldiers". Fortunately, this has not happened yet, last I heard. Belarussians fired to scare migrants towards Polish/EU border, and against returning inside Belarus.

[@LeWyy98]

Up! No one was shooted yet.

[@jakubw.2779]

They (belerusian forces) supposedly shot blanks in direction of polish forces, there is also lot of flexing by belerusians (lasers, aiming at polish soldiers and border gurads, fake explosive etc.), also some time ago a group of people in belarusian unforms crossed the border and provoked a reaction, but ultimately they've returned to belarus without causing problems

[@damian_ski]

There was no exchange of fire, Belarusians are trying to escalate, by firing in the air, pointing guns at Polish forces etc. Poles stay cool for the time being. Good material otherwise, thanks. Interesting note: China is expected to step in as this destabilise the silk road 2.0 initiative.

[@Ryanlexz]

Western Europe gonna turn Islamic in the future if they keep continue this practice LMAO 😂😂

[@m3zuss]

@@Ryanlexz what practice?

[@m3zuss]

@Abdullah Khan yeah i see xD i mean whats the matter if Europe gonna be islamic i mean everyone can believe what they want

[@Ryanlexz]

@@m3zuss open society practice! Europe about to be less secular in the future lololololol

[@m3zuss]

@@Ryanlexz who the fuck cares? XD there is more and more people in Poland that arent catholics and i dont give a fuck. Having a monopol on something is never a good thing

[@the_aurora]

The eu should start engaging in more aggressive diplomacy instead of this economical one where the only looser is the eu itself.

[@Me-ui1zy]

What, Start a war?

[@darkratoon5436]

i mean if belarus/russia are starting to use these techniques is because economical mesures are working

[@beatrix1120]

@UC7Mg5Iiw6yAkWwR0ob21sXA Yes but countless innocent people would die in the conflict. Also Beloruss is allied with Russia. They even have military bases in Belarus. It would start WW3

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

​@@Me-ui1zy as long as your enemies know you'll always chicken away from war, you'll always be the victim of bullies. If half of europe sends half of their army to litterally surround belarus on all sides with boots on the ground, tanks, artillery and airplanes, they will either eat their f*cking hat or get butchered. even russia would get its ass kicked if we really commit to it. either they cease their bullshit, either we go straight to WW3.

[@AIArtworks45]

@@Lapantouflemagic0 We don't need to start a war. Belarus and Russia are almost over. We just have to wait 5/10 years. Then the problem will go away without a single bullet fired. Why do you think Russia and Belarus are so aggressive?

[@woodman687]

They are not Polish migrants!! They are Białorus migrants.

[@powow4279]

EUROPE STANDS STRONG !

[@kasetoast8354]

By ignoring their own values?

[@satyakisil9711]

@@kasetoast8354 values don't determine politics, power does.

[@elliot04877]

@@kasetoast8354 What values? Poland clearly does not want to let those in and they are in Europe.

[@robertlinder8464]

@@kasetoast8354 Ignoring? You mean protecting.

[@steffenlib1382]

@@kasetoast8354 Most of Germany and rest of EU countries dont share your values. Dont worry though migrants will be taken in whene it is assured there not being weoponized anymore.

[@Michal235]

My understanding of this situation takes into account multiple issues and the outcome is clear: the crucial reason for the current migration crisis and people dieing on EU eastern border is closing nuclear power plants by Germany. 1. In 21th century, Germany decided to completely leave nuclear energy and put a lot of effort to block new nuclear investments in EU. 2. At the same time Germany is commited to bold emissions goals and renewables can't compensate them. To produce enough energy for the country to simply operate and to also reach emissions goals, they had to build new gas power plants. 3. As gas became more and more important for Germany's long-term energetic safety, it decided that it's worth to build another Baltic gas pipe - Nord Stream 2 - and sacrifice Poland's interests and safety to get cheaper and safer gas (Poland is a crucial transit country for Russian gas which brings profit but, which is more important, helps to stabilize its difficult relations with Russia) 4. Growing power of China finally forced USA to turn its focus to waters and islands thousands miles away with official decision to strongly decrease its presence in Europe, effectively making Europe "finally mind its own business". It was clear for years that it was only a matter of time, and yet Germany decided to weaken Poland's position on eastern NATO flank with full understanding of the consequences - now it's left without USA and without geopolitical tool in form of the gas transit. 5. Germany is fighting nuclear within EU to force another countries to rely on gas power plants during the green transformation and thereby to strengthen its own position as a gas distributor in the region, with two Baltic gas pipes operating. Germany wills the region's energetic safety for the next tens of years to have the face of Putin in the sake of its own profits. 6. Lukashenka is a rabid dog on Putin's leash. They're playing their own political game one against another, but in the end they're both making profit from this relationship. You should assume that 95% of Lukashenka's actions are legitimised by his Russian superior. And now we're coming to the culmination: 7. The winter is coming and it's forecasted to be rough. The world is already struggling with high energy prices and possible blackouts. 8. Nord Stream 2 is finished but isn't operating yet. It's a very delicate issue - opening it means officially selling Poland like Judas, so it would be more than appreciated to have a good moral excuse for doing so. And, like a rabbit jumping out of a magician's hat, all of sudden Lukashenka starts an artificial migration crisis on the Polish border, basically seeking for a casus belli. Alibi is well prepared: he's just a bloody dictator that wants revenge on Poland for supporting Belarusian opposition during massive protests after the last, rigged elections. And yet he's already sending a message that if Poland closes the border with Belarus and is putting military behind a wired fence, then he will "in response" shut down the gas flowing through Belarus from Russia to Poland (and thereby to Germany). Surprisingly convenient for Russia and Germany. 9. In such situation Nord Stream 2 manifests itself like a sudden saviour for Germany. And the circle of actions and reactions closed up... In 1-1.5 months Putin will step in, hand by hand with Germany opening Nord Stream 2, suddenly stopping the migration crisis like a true hero, saving all the starving migrants on the Belarusian border and blaming "irresponsible Polish foreign policy" for the entire situation. As it always goes. As you can see, in my conclusion it all started with Germany and its nuclear energy madness. And it all ends in Germany. Of course it's just my hypothesis, based on things I see and read on the internet, and it may be right, partially right or mostly missed, but for sure it's a consistent and logical attempt to explain what's happening on the eastern flank of western civilization.

[@vit.khudenko]

👍 Well put.

[@mattstanton4709]

thanks for the interesting comment

[@Cl0n3pl]

And here we are with record gas prices in december...

[@piotrviatorus5109]

England needs to learn from Poland how to protect it’s border

[@dieselmonster]

Correction: Not to "push back" migrants but DEFEND ITS BORDERS !!!!

[@Hollywood2021]

Lol that sounds wacist!

[@dieselmonster]

@@Hollywood2021 absolutely not. I'd say it sounds patriotic.

[@cbs577]

Yeah... the people who don't understand the value of having a country should be expatriated. What many seem to be oblivious to is that no one anywhere can forcefully enter a country illegally. I can't go to the US and settlr just because that's my whim today. If those truly are refugees they can stay in Belarus. Surely if your life is in danger you wouldn't be picky about what country offers asylum.

[@kasetoast8354]

@@dieselmonster In cases like this patriotism and fascism is the same..

[@dieselmonster]

@@kasetoast8354 I strongly disagree.

[@alh6255]

There is one solution, but the EU hesitates. It is possible to close the transit from Belarus and freeze economic relations. Belarus recorded economic growth this year, and EU data show that this growth is solely due to cooperation with EU countries, including Poland. The economic partnership of Belarus with Russia gives it far too little. If Europe froze everything here, Lukashenko would feel it so badly that he would probably fulfill all the demands of the EU. Now you can see why the EU has no reason to pay Belarus for anything. But the EU hesitates because it would hit the business of many European companies (e.g. 500 from Poland). However, there is no other way. A little loss in business or an escalation of the problem (and its costs) and even a war?

[@krakendragonslayer1909]

Poland would not agree for this. Don't forget that some 10% of Belarussian citizens are Polish ethnicity.

[@vinniechan]

The EU has already imposed sanctions not sure if there is much more they could do short of deploying hard power that Belarus would care about

[@glif1360]

You forgot that there is Russia nearby, who will be only happy to make Belarus completely dependent on it up to the point of unification, if the contacts with Europe will be cut completely.

[@yogipl75]

@@glif1360 👍👍👍

[@alh6255]

@@glif1360 No, no, I did not forget. Every option is good for Russia (such a kind of situation)

[@GeneralMiller92FIN]

The difference between Turkey and Belarus is that Turkey is next to Syria and Turkey didn't invite the refugees from Syrian civil war. They just swarmed in because it made sense for the refugees to travel to their neighbor. It was just bad luck for Turkey to be sitting next to it. That's why EU was willing to pay for Turkey. But Belarus is literally inviting refugees to their country just to be pushed away. Don't know how they are doing it because Belarus is probably the least European country where people should search sanctuary. Maybe they are paying for it that the refugees would land in Belarus instead.

[@jmarsh5485]

So Belarus is helping Turkey to blackmail Europe, with Belarus hoping to get in on the act. And Russia is using Belarus as a toy it seems to get closer to Turkey maybe, at least to try an upset Europe.

[@ruicosta1045]

Maybe it was Belarus who start the war or support the war in Arab Countries!

[@x_Arone_x]

@@jmarsh5485 fun fact not even 5% of population knows what belarus is here in Turkey

[@billyjesus5442]

You know the EU has given about 3 billion, but so far the 5 million refugees has cost Turkey over 100 billion. The opposition governments vows to end all this.

[@iloyaa6760]

@@billyjesus5442 hükümet nerde verdi her yere aynı şeyi yazmıssın türksün galiba salakmısın koyun musun ulkemizde kalıcaklar dedi ve seçimde kesinlikle gidiciler yeni gelen hükümet kesinlikle göndericek hepsini

[@jurgenkoks9142]

Estonia is sending support troops to Lithuania, we need to work together!

[@johnnytiger7580]

Sending troops from Estonia? You must be joking....

[@jurgenkoks9142]

@@johnnytiger7580 we dont joke in Estonia

[@johnnytiger7580]

@@jurgenkoks9142 You have your tanks with you then I suppose? After all there may be some hundred unarmed men, women, and children to fight against..

[@jurgenkoks9142]

@@johnnytiger7580 You do realize that there are also Belarusian and propably russian armed troops assisting them right? I do feel for these people who are in the middle of this now but we are not to blame for this and there are Borders for a reason. Belarus is to blame for this, not the countries defending their borders from a unknown crowd of random people transported there by false claims and at gunpoint and with nuclear bombers in the sky as it seems.

[@texoraptor112]

@@jurgenkoks9142 I'm with you. fight for your life and country

[@hermanhoppe3773]

Poland Hold the line.

[@Grk149]

Wow. Belarus is pulling a Turkey. Must be learning the moves from his buddy Erdogan.

[@blartversenwaldiii]

at least it made some sense for turkey, like of course people in the middle east trying to reach europe are going to go through turkey, but then belarus is nowhere near that area so it's transparently obvious that they're doing it on purpose

[@billyjesus5442]

Not really Turkey homes 5 million migrants, they got 3 billion so far for something that has cost them over 100 billion. The next government that comes into power has vowed to cancel these terrible agreements to allow the people to move on.

[@iloyaa6760]

@@billyjesus5442 lol over 5 million isn't it? I'm from Turkey. There are more than 7 million Syrians, so many in some areas that I hear Arabic in the neighbourhoods. Erdogan did not take them out of religious brotherhood or because he was upset. It was taken for open threat to Europe.

[@Grk149]

@@billyjesus5442 right, so all those being BUSED by the government to Eridne and to the Greek border last spring weren’t a government plan… also, you can “let them move on” but our countries will not be “accepting them”. Thanks for trying.

[@hrobass]

Those immigrants who come from countries where there is no problem to earn several thousand euros to buy a trip to Belarus. Someone is making money on it.

[@Fish_Priest]

Belarussian gov making money that way, by their tourist agencies.

[@NaderBerbish]

Several thousand euros? Man those people sold everything they have to get the ticket because they were lied to they would get in the EU

[@remrunner101]

Those immigrants who mostly come from warzones in which people are dying daily and litteraly starving to death, don't have "no problem to earn several thousanf euros". They sell everything they have and hope to somehow enter the EU. Stop being so ignorant.

[@m3zuss]

@@remrunner101 incorrect :) People who are refugees should go to the neighborhood country that is off the danger zone and then they could apply for visa to the EU. Being refugee wont allow you to move to the Europe by force lol? Who the fuck cares that they sell everything to make it Europe? Also there are a lot of people from Mali that is in touch with Russia and they came from Moscow to the Polish border. How the fuck are they refugees?

[@remrunner101]

@@m3zuss tf are you even saying? Look at the original comment and then look at my reply. What you said litteraly had kothing to do with the point I was trying to make. Don't come here, pretending to be all smart when you don't even get what people here are actually talking about.

[@himenoinu]

I'm with the Poles on this one. To start with, the ppl there are migrants, not refugees. You wouldn't be allowed to cross the border of a random other state, right? Even less so with the reason for the attempt being "looking for greener pastures". More importantly though, the migrants have been brought in by Belarus. So their arrival happened under the states supervision. Belarus is a twat for the tactics used, but people are too, for taking that path to obtaining entry in the EU. "I'm gonna illegally try to cross some borders and if caught, I'mma play the victim". It's all a load of bull. Lastly, before taking care of the migrants in our countries, how about we have the state take care of our own citizens, living at or under the poverty line? You just can't do a good job helping others when you can barely stand on your own two feet. And the richer countries in the Union should think about it as well, instead of just looking in the distance from their high horses.

[@panzerhund8511]

In Belarus they are legally, and the left in Poland wants to blame Poland, but not Lukaszenko or Putin.

[@burningphoenix6679]

They aren’t choosing to do this. They were lied to and promised a better life in Belarus, and are now being forced at gunpoint to cross. Stop victim blaming, you’re no better than someone who blames the victim of rape.

[@piotrd.4850]

@@burningphoenix6679 well, you should listen them telling BBC that they have paid up to 4k USD for that. Willigly.

[@texoraptor112]

this article doesn't mention anything about the incentives that belarus used to bring the migrants

[@paulkomn946]

all of us have to respect the decision of Poland people and his parliament.

[@pablodablo9869]

Three things here: 1 shots were fired only by belarusian special forces, soldiers. Non of the Polish forces shot a single time! 2 The migrants are at the Belarusian territory and they were seduced by Lukashenko. 3 Please check the history of Poland, especially how many times We were attacked and even wiped of the map! Consider this in terms of deescalation. We did not started this well preparred mess. We are only defending are border.

[@Speedkam]

Apart from one that shot himself

[@NeoZondix]

"Let's buy Russian Gas" - every European politician who now will criticize this

[@WolfyOfHonor]

Alternatively let's have 200% markup on electricity and lose next elections. Are people like you really that politically illiterate?

[@EnteiIsDoge]

Germany better get their shit together and reverse their idiotic nuclear policy, or they're gonna be Putin's puppet before too long

[@NiekNooijens]

my new house is going to be gas-free so I'm doing my part.

[@kosa9662]

@@EnteiIsDoge they are already. Im suprised that Merkel dont have very good-job-pension in Russian energy company as Schroder...

[@boser_ketchup3101]

@@EnteiIsDoge nuclear power makes up for 12% of the electricity mix. Not energy mix, electricity mix. That's nothing. If you want to blame something then blame the CDU and SPD for not building enough RE. It could have easily been replaced.

[@slavzahariev3901]

Hold the line polish brothers! No one should pass! EU should be already declaring economic war again Belorus and its monstrous elite! Cheers from Bulgaria

[@antonh1709]

The EU has already declared it. It's been going on for a little while now, and this is part of it. Where have you been?

[@willempasterkamp862]

@@antonh1709 migrants welcome

[@otrbackup5192]

All those imigratnts should apply 1st for EU visas in embassies in Minsk, and after receiving one could legally continue their journey. No illigal boarder crossing should ever be accepted. BTW nothing has been explained in this material, why all of the sudden those nicely dressed people choosed to fly to Belarus??

[@Nuka0420]

Stay strong my Polish brothers. My country, the U.S. is going through this same problem! Your country first!

[@texoraptor112]

we don't have an immigration crisis per say, and it doesn't pose nearly the national security threat that lukashenkos actions do

[@abitoftruth8670]

first of all you must say thank for this NATO ) who destroyed Iraq Libya and left that people homeless and unemployed. and so sad now we are just reaping the benefits .

[@shlomoshlomo963]

I do feel sorry for the people there but it's not poland responsibility to take them in , the eu and the west always criticize others for not taking immigrants and repelling them from the borders but then do it themselves or let other do their dirty jobs ( us in mexico, and Germany and france to greece &spain etc) .they criticize poland, Israel, turkey , Greece etc for defending their borders it's stupid

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

i don't think anyone serious criticize Greece for pushing back the migrants. maybe a handful of leftist politicians, but as i said : no one serious.

[@kasetoast8354]

I criticize Poland for holding human rights activists, doctors and food transports away from the refugees. Belarus does a terrible thing here, but Poland does not that much better on a humanistic scale. And i would understand Polands situation way more, if they would have participate at the distribution of refugees in 2015

[@demo9299]

@@kasetoast8354 U are also doing nothing for those migrants , if you love them why don't you adopt them ?

[@MustafaKulle]

Since it was Lukashenko who imported the migrants then he should be held accountable for everything that happens to them, he's treating them like garbage. It's disgusting. He is practically telling them to invade Poland, it's a war crime, and he should be punished for it. Poland does not have to accept any migrants and it has every right to protect its borders. Happy Independence Day, Poland. 🇵🇱 Stay strong.

[@Nogarda_]

How to get Poland to build a border wall. Give them a legitimate reason. [slow clap for Russia]

[@Paerigos]

Decent wall would take years to build. meanwhile the fence can in essence be overwhelmed by few dozen people at any point.

[@SiwytheMagician]

@@Paerigos It will be ready summer next year - but this is not a good idea - the crisis is caused by lukashenko there is no "natural" migration route through our country. The goal should be to remove the dictator and free the Belarusian people who are terrorized by the regime. There would be no need for a wall between a democratic Belarus and Poland.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Belarus is just taking their turn. Everyone whips Poland at least once. It's practically an eastern European right of passage.

[@kosa9662]

@@SiwytheMagician There is natural migration. Last year Poland took 200k ethnic Belarussian citizens escaping Luka regime. 20 years before Poland took 100k Chechens and after 2014 Poland allow more than 2m Ukrainians to settle.

[@milantoth6246]

@@SiwytheMagician My kinda dangerous idea is to "invade" an uninhabited area of belarus and set up migrant camps there. At least that way the EU will have some weight on their side during the negotiations.

[@Cukieralke]

As a Pole, I'm truly pleased with all the support from the exterior (at least here in the comments). You are worth more than polish opposition party and its bubble with many celebrities, who keep shitting into our common nest, criticising each and every goverment's action. If you read negative articles about Poland in foreign media you can guess where is the author from and which bubble they belong to.

[@ProximaCentauri88]

Poland is the future of Europe. Don't let the soyboy club bully you to accept migrants. They should all go to Saudi Arabia.

[@L_back]

This is true! The opposition party only criticizes the government, even if they’re doing right decisions.

[@Werrf1]

This isn't going to go away. Europe needs to stop treating this as a surprising crisis and come up with a realistic process to cope with it. People want to come to Europe. That's not going to change.

[@thisisnotmyrealname6046]

They saw how well it worked for Turkey and now they're copying it. It's the EUs own fault

[@DaDunge]

Turkey was paid for keeping refugees on their own soil, not for extortion.

[@TheCyricson]

@@DaDunge it is an extortion, erdogan says pay or i will open the doors

[@agape_99]

Turkey and Turkish citizens have not a single cent to spare because of keeping europe demographically safe from the middle eastern chaos which was created under western rule og the middle east since 1920s. Turkey has right to open borders

[@TheCyricson]

@@agape_99 check how much you spend on weapons and wars and bullshit economic tactics and then come and talk again

[@agape_99]

@@TheCyricson Thats our internal business. But its a fact that West brought greatest catastrophe into middle east since the Mongols and we have nothing to pay about this

[@mrxzx7426]

I'm from Poland, and I haven't seen in media that Polish border guard or soldiers fired shots :/

[@16PiotrEX]

No they did not, it was Belarussian military shooting at the sky to scare migrants and encourage them to storm border fences.

[@jobda1211]

W Polsce zazwyczaj używa się sformułowania „oddano strzały”, niektóre zagraniczne media, aby uczynić swoje materiały bardziej sensacyjnymi zmieniły to przy tłumaczeniu na „wymieniono strzały”

[@tim3440]

That is because TLDR is pretty against poland... Just look other videos of this channel about Poland. They are also against Hungary.

[@lyampetit144]

Well polish medias are not known for being neutral

[@mrxzx7426]

@@tim3440 yes i know that i mean i dont say we are the good one overall, but saying poland is bad is stiupid what typical citizen of poland have to do with its government, i know that the government is stiupid a lot of people dont like them but opposition is in the same level as government

[@Z4N7]

Russia is once again doing everything possible to tear the EU apart.

[@MrSkoresh]

The level of brainwashing and demonization within your countries is simply amazing, Mr. Goebbels could be proud of his descendants.

[@Z4N7]

@@MrSkoresh Huh... funny. I think that levels that your "tsar" is willing to go to destabilize his neighbors is astonishing,Stalin would be proud.

[@demo9299]

Well Russia, Bielorusia , Turkey are exploiting EU's weakness I mean kindness

[@Z4N7]

@@demo9299 And don't forget migrants.

[@Anna-mu9xy]

those poor people, absolutely disgusting what's happening there right now

[@prestone9717]

Thank you for reporting on this topic and working through watery eyes to deliver info on this topic. The human element present as this event unfolds is heart breaking.

[@allstarlord9110]

Stay strong Poland, if we managed to stop it you can as well 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@andyminter7692]

Go Poland keep it up. Show the world how it's done.

[@TommyTucker091]

Why does nobody react to France who happily escort the illegal channel boat crossings with their navy ships. As soon as they enter British waters they leave them for the UK coast guard to deal with.

[@rrn7769]

I know that, in Poland. French show in tv only Poland not what they do in canal. I dont like it.

[@sovereign9708]

I think Poland has gone through enough, they’ve earned this

[@emelizabxth]

Stand strong Poland🙌🏻 don’t let them in

[@-theknave-5009]

this is not just poland's war but europe's the situation is threatening to destabilize the whole continent and in order to combat this new threat from the east we need to be united and stand tall with our polish brothers

[@jensb3490]

It's already to late... Western Europe is lost.....

[@DaDunge]

Not really. Rules as written they are Poland's problem if they cross the border. Poland were oh so willing to not lift a finger when Italy and Greece wanted help with the migrants flowing into their countries. Now Poland is on their own with regards to this crisis. If they sign the EU migration policy framework we can help them out but until then it's a Polish problem not a European one.

[@michakrynicki7299]

@@DaDunge Or we can buy them a ticket to germany and make IT youre problem

[@UtamagUta]

Just a reminder that those "pawns" are not all innocent - they made a choice to pay, a starting sum of 7k $, to a sketchy travel agencies with a full intent to cross neighboring boarder ILLEGALLY. Those neighboring countries are suggesting that tourists that got lost in the natural beauty destinations in Belarus would ask to be escorted back to corresponding airplanes.

[@jensb3490]

They bought a one-way ticket to hell.... Enjoy the vacation

[@DaDunge]

Actually as I understand it they were told that papers would be arranged for them.

[@UtamagUta]

@@DaDunge and that is the reason why they discard their documents and cross boarder through woods at night? I'm not saying that all people had awareness, just most. Esp., those dudes waving their iphones and leaving feces in food thermoses (they wanted a mac, you see, not meatballs,- a totally reasonable behavior) . P.S. those "agencies" participating in this should be tried for human trafficking in the very first step.

[@escwilde222]

You can't say that, that easily. They were mislead and are now being misused. They saw an opertunity to come to Europe with false information and now they are suffering the most. It's not fair for them.

[@DaDunge]

@@UtamagUta You don't think Belarus lied to them? You know Putin and Luchachenko are lying when their moths are moving. I'm not saying we should let them in, that would encourage other countries to facilitate such flows, if they have a reason to seek asylum they can contact European embassies.

[@lumpa309]

There is no violence or shootings "between Polish and Belarusian forces". It is only Belarusian soldiers shooting over migrants heads and towards Polish border guards but purposely missing or using blanks. This should be carefully emphasized.

[@MrKluckie13]

I say they should start escorting the migrants to Russia's Kaliningrad Oblast exclave. Then it'll stop pretty quickly.

[@kosa9662]

That not stupid idea.

[@H3rraM4juri]

@@kosa9662 it is actually because that exclave has military bases so if poland or any baltic countries does that russia will just shut off gas pipe lines to eu

[@demo9299]

If you pay attention,many more migrants are used as political pressure,usually from hotspot hub like Turkey , Morocco and Libya than from Bielorusia. Basically Lukashenko is just exploiting what Erdogan , leaders from Morocco and Libya.

[@ScEd21]

Litvinienko was killed in 2006, not 2016.

[@НатальяРомашкина-й9ь]

Поляки, родные держитесь. Не идите на поводу у тирана.

[@АлександрБолбат-ы1у]

Уже и поляки родными стали. В странное время живём. :)

[@НатальяРомашкина-й9ь]

@@АлександрБолбат-ы1у друзья познаются в беде.Думали Россия родная, но увы... ошибались. Кремль диктатора поддержал, но не народ. Скольких выдал режиму? А ведь эти люди вроде к друзьям бежали.

[@АлександрБолбат-ы1у]

@@НатальяРомашкина-й9ь Всё равно остаётся непонятно, почему Польша вдруг стала родной. То, что у нас с Беларусью тоталитарное правительство, не делает Польшу дружественной.

[@vaclavdockal6272]

If EU wants to keep open Schengen borders in has to protect its outer borders (and coutries that do not have external border should help those that do). That is absolutely critical, otherwise open borders within EU loose sense. If any migrants die there it is their fault and fault of the Belarussian blackmailer, not the Country defending its borders. I know it may seem heartless and I fell bad typing it down, but how else would you stop people from storming your teritory? By eventually letting them in everytime, so it encourages other to go on the journey, so even more people die as a result and more damage will be done to cohesion of EU? It is shortsighted.

[@aiwekano8593]

Łukaszenko might be the aggressor in this situation, but the way the polish government is handling it is atrocious. There is no regard for people dying at the border and those who try to help are stopped or arrested. It's a humanitarian crisis from both sides

[@1000pavlos]

Turkey has been blackmailing the EU for money to not send migrants for so much longer. Difference is that the EU is so weak its actually paying. Erdoğan = Lukashenko

[@txlmu]

That’s complete bullshit

[@alpersenturk1420]

lmao Turkey has paid more than 50 billion(in 2011-2017, i dont even know where the numbers are right now) and you think EU giving 6 billion is helping, or Turkey is blackmailing? its easier for Turks to just open the doors which I really really really want

[@eroseros47]

do you have a proof to pay money to turkey or just believe fairy stories

[@demo9299]

@@eroseros47 hahaha then why Erdogan makes public statement that EU should pay him or else?

[@Nubbe999]

40 flights per week X with around 140 passengers each X 4 weeks = 22400 persons per month. But Belarus is flying more and more refugees for everyday so soon it will double. And it hard to have control over a big border especially when Belarus military is helping people get over. a lot of people have already passed the border and are somewhere in Europe now

[@kosa9662]

Add to this that average migrant is paying Luka regime around 4-12k $.

[@minimahaj9716]

Why Belarus can’t keep them in their own country ? Why forcing them to Poland ? They are stranded on Belarus land . Secondly how they arrived in Belarus ? Belarus allowed them in their land , so keep and help them in Belarus .

[@sodasommelier4990]

It's to create turmoil & a migrant crisis in the EU to destabilize the EU.

[@jeffreypogue2579]

It's refreshing to hear someone communicate accurate information.

[@BelfastBandit]

We need Far Cry 7 with Lukasznko as a Villain and Putin as a Bonus Boss ;)

[@comicz_the_7god]

People like you are the problem foh

[@coffeeandvapes1308]

😅 I was thinking the same thing. Polish sales on day one of release would make GTAV blush!

[@thsxi]

My home city is Białystok, which is the closest major city near the border, and my grandads village is only 10 km away from the border, so these tensions would be problematic if there ever were to escalate

[@BisselleWixxelle]

Support immediately Poland if Belarus or Russia attack. 🇹🇷❤️🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱 F... Germany, the main reason of this refugees problem

[@christophergraham5673]

I’m sorry to say but we don’t know who these people are, mainly young men , if they genuinely wanted to financially migrate why not try the legal route🤨 maybe it’s because they have criminal convictions and they wouldn’t be successful 😠

[@shlomoshlomo963]

Probably because they would not be able to immigrate otherwise. Not saying u should let them i just say that it's unlikely they would get into germany in any other way, people tried to swim /sail across the Mediterranean with rafts and small boats full of people with a lot dying in the process in order to try and get the chance to enter the EU and flee from nort africa& others. Again not saying poland shoul let them in just saying they are not likely to be accepted otherwise ( unless they are wealthy)

[@kasugaryuichi9767]

@@shlomoshlomo963 People do not have a right to other people's countries or resources though. If you want to live somewhere, make yourself enticing for that place.

[@shlomoshlomo963]

@@kasugaryuichi9767 well most European countries built their wealth over othet people resources. Hell the usa went to war in the middle east for that exact reason. And again i am not saying u should just let them in i am just saying u should look at both sides perspectives and atleast try to find a somewhat of a solution ( especially for wars the west/usa is responsible for like iraq ) and keep in kind a lot of them can't just go to good schools earn a lot of money and using it to go to Europe/the us. What u are saying is only true if u are from another western nation/other stable nation ( like india, china, Russia, and anywhere else with decent or morr live conditions ) u should keep in mind a lot of refugees don't come from those kind of places and i am not talking about this specific case but on the millions of refugees who escape wars all over the globe . Overall i agree countries shouldn't be burdened with letting all immigrants in but we shoul definitely be tolerable to them in general and be more focused on what causer the problem in the first place ( whether it's assad or lukashenko or whatever)

[@TheJediKnight91]

Funnily enough when Erdoğan tried a similar thing at the borders with Greece in 2020, Poland was one of the countries refusing more sanctions against Turkey.

[@Alitacyan]

Polish government has a hard on for authoritarian strongman leaders. Actually Poland gov would cozy up to Lukashenkos too if Pol and Bel didn't border each other directly.

[@cbs577]

@@Alitacyan troll or bot. Either way shut up.

[@Alitacyan]

@@cbs577 telling someone who is critical of the government to shut up? Yepp it's a P&J supporter.

[@cbs577]

@@Alitacyan blurting out fartlike scare tales isn't criticism, you're just warmongering a democratic country aka Poland. You should go live in Belarus. Traitor. Karma is nigh.

[@Avenue_ad_Astra]

@@Alitacyan agreed!

[@jankowalski484]

By agreeing to Poland or the European Union accepting migrants, we will only encourage thousands more migrants and further hostile actions by Lukashenko. Poland is doing a good job of effectively defending the European Union's external border, and the EU as well as NATO should support these actions and become actively involved in the process.

[@nb7748]

The Russian and Belarusian leaders are despicable, these are human beings who are now suffering, I hope the EU can come up with a compassionate resolution while preventing this from happening again.

[@daveytrump6516]

He calls Poland's refusals to allow these migrants in, a refusal to de-escalate? What aload of shit! He also said that's bad news for everyone?????? How the hell is poland protecting their boarder bad news???? 🤬🤬🤬

[@sewerynewertowski1337]

That is so right!

[@Europeancitizen]

You should a video why refugees didnt want to go to rich muslims countries, China ,Russia ...

[@jensb3490]

That would be short video.... "no free money - you actually have to work to get paid"... Thanks for watching..

[@userlog2474]

@@jensb3490 Untrue. It would be due to the lack of human rights. In Denmark, there's strong welfare, and more people work than in the US.

[@jensb3490]

@@userlog2474 not sure what you mean when comparing Denmark and the States, sorry...

[@userlog2474]

@@jensb3490 In Denmark, there's "free money" (welfare), which you imply is the reason migrants go West, so they don't have to work. Apart from implying migrants don't want to work, the welfare in Denmark actually causes more people to work. TL;DR: Migrants work and so does welfare.

[@Europeancitizen]

Islamization of Europe means end of human rights end of women rights in Europe .

[@dexterquotidian]

Remember Angela Merkel's Wilkommenskultur back from 2015? And she is the right-wing in German politics...