WHY BIGGER? Joytoy Ultramarines Terminator Warhammer 40K 1/18 action figure review unboxing

Holy Sh#T !!! My fear is finally realised... Joytoy has really increased the size of the Terminators!... It cannot able to fit in my scratch-built Land Raider .... @$%#59&*%(&Q&^!
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[@Astarot_88]

I pray to the dark gods that Joy Toy will re-release the Black Legion Terminators in new sizes.

[@sand5282]

I hope joytoy will release them rescaled and 40k Abaddon along with them

[@Astarot_88]

@@sand5282 I hope so too. Joy was told that Abaddon will be released in 2025.

[@ac-studio]

Oh No.... please no.......haha

[@michaelfranzgarcia7769]

the weird thing is the heavy intercessor in gravis armor or the apothecary biologist are suppose to be the same as the primaries terminators the proportion is perfect sad it's so big dante will be a mess if they make the primaries bigger

[@tanks-a-lot6466]

It’s not just the terminators that suffer from this issue. The regular marines are getting bigger as well, especially the rerun of the bladeguard. 2nd generation marines already had trouble fitting inside of the atv and the 3rd gen and bladeguard are bigger so it’s very unlikely that they would fit unless they upscale the vehicles. The terminator size is even more ridiculous if you compare the mini versions of an intercessor and a 10th edition terminator, they are a lot closer in size than these massive ones. Sorry for the long post, but I am really annoyed by this.

[@datamag2018]

Yeah this is an issue for me too. As you say, new proportion is great, new size...looks great... but completely mismatches previous figures. If the previous (V2) Terminators had come out 4 or 5 years ago that'd be different, but I feel like those BA and UM squads came out maybe a year or so ago, and now they are obsolete! It's irritating, but again as you say, there's not much we can do about it. I'd rather not sell mine, but they look silly compared to the new ones now.... Good review!

[@ac-studio]

Yes.. the previous Terminators only came out 9 months ago.. and now new ones... so frustrating.. the worst is I got the full squad!...

[@datamag2018]

@@ac-studio I bought the Ultramarines AND the Blood Angels ones....😭😡🤬

[@drew3493]

I agree with your points. I also have to say as a 1/18 fan specifically I don't enjoy it becoming basically a 1/12 line as everything creeps up.

[@ac-studio]

Oh no......​@@datamag2018

[@daltonzart6581]

Im a collector have 60 action figures of Joytoy, and i ill not buy the New terminators because of this problem of size creep, already have the old ones and um happy with then. I dont need the new terminators.

[@dinocha0s]

they follow 1 for 1 based on miniatures.

[@joeschmoe5608]

The simple thing for collecting is exactly the same as tabletop, the smaller ones are just Firstborn and per the lore should be smaller anyway. All the newer models releasing are Primaris, thus will be bigger than any Firstborn, GKs are the best example as none of them are Primaris and will be shorter. Custodes are still bigger than both as it should be

[@FrostThedeadoneblake]

For the smaller figures, you can just pretend the guys are just short.😂😅

[@ac-studio]

hahahaha... perhaps I should...

[@carloraecousart8538]

@@ac-studio this is a good idea to apply, this may be the reason i am not that bothered by the size creep

[@Azazel-zv4fy]

The size/scale/proportion changes are a direct reflection of Games Workshop's changes with the newer versions of these models. The sculpts that JT use are just scaled up from GW's digital files by a certain specifc %, and so GW's newer figures being larger results in JT's newer figures being larger.

[@ac-studio]

Yeah I think so... so I am selling the terminators to replace with new...

[@joeschmoe5608]

Exactly! JoyToy is beholden to GW on all things related to the license, the sizes are GW, all figures are given final approval by GW…people don’t understand this simple concept

[@marcoslopez127]

This is just not true at all and can be demonstrated as such through so many other releases.

[@The_Sisyphean]

The new Terminators are cool, but I’m fed up of these scale changes.

[@ac-studio]

Yeah... I had enough as well...

[@collectingsoulz1435]

Space wolves Terminator with lightning claws,please.

[@richardch.4356]

I dont really mind them being it bigger it doesn't really bother me as other people plus im pretty sure there's a reason to why they are bigger all though some of the do look weird proportion wise

[@grey4612]

I love my grey knight terminators but putting them side by side with the new um terminators make them look like kids, wonder if joytou would do a 2.0

[@ac-studio]

Not surprise they will do that once GW remake the GK!

[@AlbiniusCristi-zm8vb]

If it isnt part of the mechanicum in some way shape or form and its taller than my Grey Knight Terminators then I guess i cant get it. All others have to be robotic or smaller. Guess thats why I have Sororitas.

[@seantaylor861]

I guess it matches what GW did with the miniatures. The Leviathan box terminators were notably taller than the previous terminators. Is it supposed to be the new scale for all JoyToy figures? Not sure. How is the scale compared to the Primarchs?

[@jhm3346]

Personally it’s not a big issue for me due to I also collect tank diecasts. So I’m used to different proportions to similar models.

[@drew3493]

I appreciate you making this video. JT scale creep is way out of control.

[@Me4king]

Like I mentioned in the last video, it's because the figures are basically direct copies from the original GW models. The 2 models compared in the video have a 20-year gap. The more recent terminator models released in the last 5 years were not scaled that drastically different. Based on the releases, it's likely unfortunately JoyToy didn't have the new Levithan terminators models yet when they made the original terminators. As another commenter mentioned in the last video, you could technically call the older terminators Firstborn and the new terminators Primaris but that then throws the scale all out of whack now for the normal Primaris marines.

[@spartten1784]

I just got all 6 of the UM terminators last week, and now seeing this...WTF😅

[@ac-studio]

oh....

[@spartten1784]

​@@ac-studio Why can't they give us the new proportions and upgrades but keep the scale?

[@themandaloriangamingnetwor4964]

I have a question my mcfarlene 40k figure is wobbly at the upper chest, is their a way to fix this?

[@wayanwiyono]

i gave up JT WH for its size creep are not cool, time to switch collection

[@ac-studio]

Fair enough....

[@vitorr.8755]

im not going to get the regular new terminators. Just the librarian

[@ARBAAL1522]

They are out of scale, otherwise very nice!

[@lopesj6670]

Is that the same size as the blood angels termi?

[@ac-studio]

Probably not.. because the Blood Angels is V2 Terminators

[@lopesj6670]

@@ac-studioah very well:/

[@lopesj6670]

@@ac-studiowonder if I should hold off then and see if they remake them as they done others

[@kent4348]

whats v4 ?

[@richardmiller1345]

Now you see! Space Marines can’t fight in a world made for a 6 foot man. When we “The Australian Army” where making the IMV the African version was to small inside. Which was a joke about the Boars shrinking. It’s a fact of life..my mate “Chop” never fitted in 113s or choppers. And he was 6,5 feet.

[@sand5282]

I prefer the new size, old terminators next to marines didn't feel like walking tanks that they are supposed to be.

[@andresilva-rn9xd]

360p squad form up

[@Rookie40K]

Primaris upscale vs regular marines. Just like the GW models.

[@Voolee2196]

I have no idea why scaling is an issue. As long as they are good action figures, whatever.

[@ac-studio]

I appreciate your perspective. This issue affects many of us who have invested significantly in building a collection, often amassing numerous figures. Joytoy releasing figures in different scales disrupts our collections and undermines the effort and money we've put into them. For model makers like myself, who create custom scratch-built models to enhance our collections, this shift is particularly frustrating.

[@jimmymoreno8142]

What Joytoy has done is to make the new terminators Primaris size.

terminator armor is bigger then ordinary armor this is lore accurate only gravis armor is close too terminator armor and anyway the terminator armor is bigger and more armored