WHY BOXING IS BETTER THAN MARTIAL ARTS! (BJJ/JUDO ETC)

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Coach V

Coach V

Күн бұрын

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@remiland8876
@remiland8876 Жыл бұрын
Boxing is underrated
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Bigtime 💯💯
@ronin8741
@ronin8741 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@truthhurts6327
@truthhurts6327 11 ай бұрын
Boxing got the best hands 💯💯
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt 10 ай бұрын
Boxing is overrated for street fights on its own. Better to pair with Judo and become a more well rounded fighter.
@at5840
@at5840 10 ай бұрын
​@@LibertarianGaltboxing is the best put you to sleep quick facts
@jimmyrustles358
@jimmyrustles358 Жыл бұрын
Footwork in boxing is greatly underrated when it comes to self defense. Being light on your feet and having the option to engage or disengage is very important. In grappling sports, you are forced to commit and that's when things can go very wrong.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@truthhurts6327
@truthhurts6327 Жыл бұрын
💯🥊 how long of training in boxing to win in a street fight?
@topemeister3000
@topemeister3000 Жыл бұрын
@@truthhurts6327 30 minutes should be plenty
@rackembarry
@rackembarry Жыл бұрын
those who know both >>>>
@sukottoshinobe7360
@sukottoshinobe7360 Жыл бұрын
As a dude that grew up fighting on the streets and doing time I tell dudes all the time the last place you wanna be is on the ground in a REAL fight. A competition is a real fight but it’s controlled with rules so it makes sense to take someone down. On the street you wanna be on your feet and be able to get away if you need to run not be on the ground waiting to be stomped by other dudes. Seen it too many times. Learn to box it will keep you alive and you’ll win more than 9 out of 10 fights in the streets
@JakeV.
@JakeV. Жыл бұрын
I have trained BJJ for around 5 years and still do. I took Muay Thai for about a year and 1/2 to get a decent striking base. Most BJJ guys underestimate and undervalue how effective striking is. Grappling is great to know but being able to piece somebody up is equally if not more important.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Well said, gotta balance the yin & yang!!
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt 10 ай бұрын
BJJ is meant to be paired with striking but the strikes were taken out for tournaments. Judo also used to do more ground work but has taken a lot out for tournaments. When it was an actual form of combat for war, you'd use throws and locks to expose people to strikes.
@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners
@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners 6 ай бұрын
It’s always nice to be able to dictate where the fights going to take place. I’ve always grappled. Just started boxing and I’m obsessed with it now. I’m adding in some Muay Thai soon. I’m dressing it. Took a nasty shin to my thigh and that will change the way you look at life. lol.
@Op_Intrude-N313
@Op_Intrude-N313 5 ай бұрын
​@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners Having your leg shut down after a clean round kick to the upper thigh is an eye-opening experience to be sure lol
@maxspeakstruth9988
@maxspeakstruth9988 2 ай бұрын
@@LibertarianGaltfacts
@bobrocks8387
@bobrocks8387 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about better? I do believe if you combine boxing and judo. You really got something now.
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 8 ай бұрын
Or Muay Thai/kickboxing and BJJ/Jujutsu. Winning combination.
@francismurage895
@francismurage895 8 ай бұрын
​@@punisher7772I don't think Muay Thai/ Kickboxing is anywhere near boxing.
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 8 ай бұрын
@@francismurage895 LOL Yeah, keep thinking that until you are kicked in the leg and knocked out by a spinning elbow.
@Lambdamale.
@Lambdamale. 7 ай бұрын
​@punisher7772 MT is the goat. They're shins are like clubs
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 7 ай бұрын
@@francismurage895 you do know a guy got his skull fractured by a flying knee in the UFC right ?
@Mraymankarate
@Mraymankarate Жыл бұрын
I have been training karate for nearly 25 years. And now I do boxing 1 to 2 times a week besides karate. Boxing for me is another game that really gives you the taste of reality and you don't get that in lots of martial arts. It's great for footwork, conditioning and reflexes.
@christianrossetti34
@christianrossetti34 5 ай бұрын
I agree also the sparring in boxing is much more realistic than in karate.
@a.meireles.boxing
@a.meireles.boxing Жыл бұрын
Boxing is hard and pain is guaranteed! So is life... I keep coming back to the gym, even when I keep feeling awkward and defenseless against any mediocre skilled boxer... But I keep coming back.
@timecircle4126
@timecircle4126 6 ай бұрын
Me the same thing :)
@doctornephrology1229
@doctornephrology1229 6 ай бұрын
Me too
@MajesticLawnGnome
@MajesticLawnGnome 4 ай бұрын
I love boxing met a guy from japan who noticed how good I was at jump rope come to find out he has been boxing over 20 years has been teaching me soo much my stamina is growing soo much it’s insane I love it and I feel soo much more confident if someone attacks me just to avoid the attacks rowing slipping evading just with body sways blocking parrying it’s soo fun at the same time even when sparring I bought my coach and I some head gear we spar lightly it’s about learning not going all out until I have a match even when I get tagged up I learn soo much how to read my opponent my reaction speed I highly recommend boxing 🥊
@SonnyCrocket-p6h
@SonnyCrocket-p6h 3 ай бұрын
learn to kick the knees and shins as you cover up with your forearms. Stand sideways, in an "L" stand, knees bend, rear knee pointing to your rear, almost no weight on your front leg. Glide or skip when you move. Try to never cross your legs. Use stop kicks with the inside edge of your foot, front kicks with the ball of the rear foot and side kicks with the cutting edge of the outside of your lead foot. Once you bust up his leg, he'll be on the ground and then you can literally kick his head in. Avoid kicks with the shin or the top of your foot, other than to his nuts, cause you'll probably just hurt your foot and kicking with the shin lets the opponent get too close to you.
@mrsmuuve
@mrsmuuve Жыл бұрын
Man I am martial arts instructor. Iv been training in one way or another for close to 20 years. I honestly tell people the same thing. I think boxing and wrestling are the best things people can do if they want to actually be able to handle themselves in a fight simply because of the way they train and the mindsets of the competitions. I incorporate both in our fighting system quite a bit simply because of how effective they are in the street. And most of the street fights I've been in it's been a pretty awful idea to be on the ground for to long lol
@iannhuracan
@iannhuracan Жыл бұрын
That's what Andrew Tate said
@markdaniels4178
@markdaniels4178 Жыл бұрын
Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different
@JohnHenryDavisTheThird1987
@JohnHenryDavisTheThird1987 Жыл бұрын
@@markdaniels4178 "Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different" - That's right, keep everything easy. :) Two sciences, study and practice them both to the fullest! A knock out artist, a body slam artist, and a choke out artist!
@tylerdurden4289
@tylerdurden4289 Жыл бұрын
Boxing and wrestling is good but I reckon boxing and judo better
@kuwaitipatroitic4274
@kuwaitipatroitic4274 10 ай бұрын
@@tylerdurden4289 I dont think judo works if the opponent is not wearing some large jacket like a tshirt or maybe shirtless, because judokas only train with gi.
@sheephead187
@sheephead187 11 күн бұрын
The footwork and balance has served me my whole life.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 9 күн бұрын
Absolutely it’s the foundation to everything physical!!
@igorg.8624
@igorg.8624 5 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I've trained in many martial arts over 20 years, but Boxing takes the cake for street defense and conditioning.
@anwarbolat
@anwarbolat Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said. I'm from Kazakhstan and have been doing boxing since school. Later I transitioned into judo and bjj. In real life scenario boxing helped me in self-defence on multiple occasions. In my experience all the fights started in places where I less likely expected it, i.e at home, in a bar, pub, restaurant, shopping mall, on the way to home or work etc. To avoid a series of punches and to stay conscious even if some good punches landed on my head or body is a key ability that boxing gave me. Once the back of my head hit the edge of the toilet unit, but still I was able to get up though I felt the wave of shock went through all my body (a similar experience when you've been knocked out).
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 8 ай бұрын
Yes, because if you're attacked especially if you are taken by surprise you might have to weather the storm and take a couple punches. Another good thing about training in boxing is you learn to roll with punches or cover up so you aren't taking the full force of the hits. The harder you are hit the more difficult it is to defend yourself. Take the least amount of damage and the sooner you can recover and fight back.
@SonnyCrocket-p6h
@SonnyCrocket-p6h 3 ай бұрын
right, it would never OCCUR to me that a fight MIGHT start in a pub or bar! what a maroon
@piercetavon77
@piercetavon77 Жыл бұрын
As a LEO and mixed martial artist I agree with most of your opinion,but in law enforcement grappling is more effective because it’s more efficient and appears less brutal. If I knockout or get into a fist fight with every resisting suspect I will be fired and probably arrested, but if I get the take down and ground control usually no one gets hurt and I can keep my job.
@kumarjr1696
@kumarjr1696 Жыл бұрын
Yeah in law enforcement optics and how your write your reports are more important than anything.
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
The fact that you're a cop and you're bringing your zodiac sign into this is terrifying. You sound like a mental case 🤪👮🏼‍♂️😂
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
​@@kumarjr1696he puts his zodiac sign of the perps in his police reports too 😂
@MrWinning43
@MrWinning43 10 ай бұрын
What's the best grappling art for self defense?
@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug6773
@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug6773 6 ай бұрын
​@@MrWinning43 Judo or wrestling
@joshhowe3477
@joshhowe3477 3 ай бұрын
In a self-defense situation, you want to be competent in striking and grappling, and having a good 40-yard dash is super important as well!
@TheBest-sd2qf
@TheBest-sd2qf 18 күн бұрын
Marathon runners might be the best really, because they still sprint faster than normal people and there's just no way you gonna catch them
@stavart13
@stavart13 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree with this. I've seen footage of boxers very easily and effectively take control of a situation taking out multiple opponents. Boxing and it's footwork just works, it's that simple. There's nothing fancy about it.
@shawnlittle9378
@shawnlittle9378 5 ай бұрын
I used to be a boxer and let me tell you it pushes you to the limits unlike anything you've ever seen the desire the pain the hunger the struggle breaking you down building you back up pushing your body to the distance doing things that you never thought was possible before and when it's all said and done you feel so happy because you did something that you thought was impossible that's why I love boxing to this day and still do it❤❤
@stefankeeney8462
@stefankeeney8462 Жыл бұрын
Man coach V I’m so glad you made a video on this topic. I always tell people, if two 225 guys on steroids roll in submission grappling, It’s still not necessarily a FIGHT. With boxing I don’t care if it’s two middle aged women who are 115 pounds fight with 16 oz gloves, headgear and x 2:00 rounds, that’s still a FIGHT where one of them can DIE!
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
I like your analogy. I totally agree when you’re throwing blows that really is with the line is crossed between safe and dangerous. Nothing against grappling, but that is the art of postponing a fight unless you’re factoring in submissions as you know, you get points deducted for too much holding because it’s not considered advancing your position!
@polarbearswag7342
@polarbearswag7342 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the 225lb steroid-guys can potentially get their limbs snapped or their joints shredded within seconds. Also, are we assuming that there is a ref cause if you hold onto a blood choke for too long the other person will literally die.
@stefankeeney8462
@stefankeeney8462 Жыл бұрын
@@polarbearswag7342 Yes you are right death can occur in any sport. However, within the rules of submission grappling holding things past the tap is illegal. So applying a choke past the tap can happen yes, but it’s not within the rules. In the case of Boxing, even at the most novice level regardless of gender, age and size, the rules ENCOURAGE you to leave your opponent unconscious. Both sports are similar in that they require the signing of waivers, it’s just that in boxing the inherent risk is more upfront and blatant. (In my opinion)
@polarbearswag7342
@polarbearswag7342 Жыл бұрын
@@stefankeeney8462You’re right, I misinterpreted your original post when I first read it yesterday 🤦🏻‍♂️. Injuring someone in a grappling competition would have to be either by accident or a refusal to tap (or some asshole not letting go lol). Where as in boxing, even sparring sessions can cause brain trauma.
@christianrossetti34
@christianrossetti34 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing boxing for 4 years now. I started off with karate I did it for 11 years started when I was really young I got my black belt, but let me tell you I didn’t realize that I knew nothing about fighting until I got into an actual fight I was beaten up and robbed. So I started boxing and it helped me it saved my life actually I can handle myself well now I would like to do either Thai boxing or wrestling in the future to well round my game. Also when I told people I did karate they laughed and made fun of me but when I told them I boxed they were like wow and never messed with me. 🥊
@dfk09
@dfk09 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've always thought of boxing as a martial art. For that matter, wresting too. But I know what you mean. I agree with you that boxing provides you with a great base. After a one-hour boxing workout, most people can hardly hold their arms up. I think if you do boxing and some wrestling, you will be set in dealing with most street fight scenarios.
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 Жыл бұрын
Boxing with wrestling and judo are a safe bet in a self defence situation. Also incorporating Japanese ju-jitsu would help. I want see a combination of Boxing and Karate.
@TheBest-sd2qf
@TheBest-sd2qf 3 ай бұрын
There's just a limit to how much time the average person can put into training, but yes you are right of course.
@punlovingpacifist
@punlovingpacifist Жыл бұрын
I do both KYOKISHIN, karate and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but I’ve also integrated parts of boxing into my training, and I must say whatever it comes to defensive maneuvers. I had never seen any sort of head movement quite like boxings, and it’s very effective.
@Scandimania
@Scandimania 2 ай бұрын
Kyokushin is a very respectable style I must say. Very similar to Muay Thai, no bs.
@antoniostrina82
@antoniostrina82 18 күн бұрын
@@Scandimania Kyokushin and Muay Thai always win against a boxer, demonstrating that footwork is overestimated.
@bryancalvente3779
@bryancalvente3779 6 ай бұрын
My plan is to do boxing at least 2 years then would like to do judo
@makekotor3722
@makekotor3722 6 ай бұрын
I'm a blue belt in bjj and soon to be purple and haven't boxed in many years, but am so happy I learned how to box when I did. It is very effective and straightforward for self defense and the workout itself helps my stamina when I roll in bjj. Boxing has holes just like every fighting style, but that's when it's best to combine boxing with bjj to defend yourself on the ground and learn some muay thai for the awareness of being able to defend against kicks and elbows. Whatever the self defense or competitive goals are for striking, grappling or cage fighting, boxing is a great universal workout that everyone should have in their training routine.
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 6 ай бұрын
A street fight is similar to a gunfight in that it's usually the first hit on target that wins. That's where a trained boxer has the advantage over other martial arts re; hand speed, movement and distance management.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 5 ай бұрын
Great point. Most boxers are more inoculated to damage from strikes, than the average person, so they can immediately counter as opposed to most people who just fold after the first clean shot!
@PublicStqticVoid
@PublicStqticVoid Жыл бұрын
Honestly getting all touchy with someone is the most effective way to catch a fade, great video man, I liked.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Agreed and thanks bro feel free to leave video topics in the comment section or my DM 🥊📈💪🏼
@BigDaveT.V
@BigDaveT.V Жыл бұрын
I just started boxing and I'm overweight and it's amazing for footwork and cardio
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Champ, feel free to DM video ideas to my IG @COACH.V_
@kev69323
@kev69323 Жыл бұрын
This video found its way to me- been in a similar dilemma between choosing boxing and mma. ive already had two fairly recent boxing lessons , and i always felt like it would be the most logical to start with boxing. i think all are good though!
@blitzkrieg459
@blitzkrieg459 Жыл бұрын
Having worked in corrections and private security. I used more of what I learned from Muay Thai/boxing then I did jiu jitsu, to be fair I enjoyed boxing more and the footwork and evading really helped me. In a jail environment you don’t want to be on the ground, that is a terrifying thing.
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
Exactly all these Jiu-Jitsu dogs that never been punched in the face think that crap is going to work in the street or in jail they are sadly mistaken
@sebozz2046
@sebozz2046 6 ай бұрын
Judoka will throw a boxer before he can punch him
@Bosh783
@Bosh783 4 ай бұрын
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dythere’s many videos of it working though
@PredictionMMA
@PredictionMMA 4 ай бұрын
@@sebozz2046 ik ur trolling I know so many grapplers afraid of a punch thru don’t train for punches very weak chin imo
@doublejacketjimmy391
@doublejacketjimmy391 3 ай бұрын
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy If boxing fags weren't so delusional and knew how to read they would've did their research and learn that Jiu Jitsu is not just ground game but it has on feet grappling too, Gi or NoGi. Plus Jiu Jitsu teaches defensive grappling techniques how to get away from bad situations if you do end up in tight position as well as on the ground. Plus one throw on a concrete is just as effective as a one strike that could KO someone.
@DeanMurray21
@DeanMurray21 7 ай бұрын
Great video. I did both boxing and BJJ. In my experience at the BJJ gym, the owner acted like BJJ was the end all to for all street fights. He would talk about how in a boxing stance someone could just shoot in and do a take down as if a boxer wouldn't move around or throw a hook or something. Great content!
@rafaelcarrera9436
@rafaelcarrera9436 Жыл бұрын
The footwork, head movement, and overall body mechanics of boxing are so fundamental not just to a fist fight, but translate incomparably better than any other martial art's skillset. The future addition of any other means of striking (kicks, knees, open hand, etc.) are included very easily due to boxing's movement mechanics alone. The addition of BJJ or Judo basics adds such a strong layer of overall competency in a fight.
@kingk.2547
@kingk.2547 5 ай бұрын
I did Muay Thai now doing boxing I plan getting back into Thai. I love boxing the footwork and striking is needed.
@tvm2209
@tvm2209 Жыл бұрын
I view boxing as a classic in a good way too 😅
@morganlim4552
@morganlim4552 Жыл бұрын
About time someone said it out loud
@STREETBEEFS_
@STREETBEEFS_ Жыл бұрын
AMAZING BREAKDOWN!!
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated brother, great channel you got 🥊📈💪🏼
@amatomic257
@amatomic257 Жыл бұрын
There is a difference between fighting and criminal violence. Fighting is somewhat mutual to a degree, for example, two guys in a bar exchange words then step outside for a brawl. Criminal violence is sudden with little warning, for example, a group of teens playing the knockout game & sneaking up on a victim. Criminal violence often involves two or more attackers, an armed attacker or both. The best defense against criminal violence is an equalizer such as a pistol or pepper spray & of course general awareness of your surroundings. Unarmed against criminal violence I would definitely take boxing & wrestling before all other styles, what you need when SHFT is simplicity. However keep in mind unarmed no matter what style you are very much behind the power curve when facing criminal violence.
@Thenineoh
@Thenineoh 9 ай бұрын
being battle tested can't be overstated. early in life I learned Karate and got my black belt in 2 years. Later on, i trained in boxing. I feel I learned more about actual fighting in 1 month boxing than I did in Karate, mainly because every day you're spending time in the ring and actually testing what you learned. Karate sparring is different, blows to head are not allowed, and they teach you mainly to just protect your torso and back from getting hit (tournament fighting). Of course that doesn't prepare you against an opponent who is coming at you trying to take your head off. Granted, what I learned in Karate wasn't useless, I learned to incorporate those into my game, but definitely boxing was more useful overall. Things you learn in Karate a lot of times were for show, but everything learned in boxing is practical. And of course once again, the sparring and actual pressure testing is crucial to know what will actually work and what won't.
@dylan_krishna_777
@dylan_krishna_777 Жыл бұрын
Boxing is great for the street knocking people out and you are also used of getting hit to the head. But you forget that you can break your hands to because no hand wraps and big gloves to protect them . But Boxing is above BJJ because fighting on the ground can be dangerous, when there are more opponent. I think Judo is equally to boxing because every fight can get close so with Judo you can trow your opponents with a brutal force to the ground ! 🥊🥋💚
@jaymainebanks6863
@jaymainebanks6863 Жыл бұрын
Ull only break ur hands when you’re punching something like the head because ur fist are designed to punch people ion the face and if in Texas get brass knuckles
@dixcn
@dixcn Жыл бұрын
I do muay thai and BJJ and i 100% agree you should do some form of striking and grappling preferably
@Todo_fighting
@Todo_fighting Жыл бұрын
How is your thai clinch and you takedowns?
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 2 ай бұрын
​@@Todo_fighting takedowns probably non-existent unless they mix in Judo maybe. The wrestling addition I usually see is subpar
@Todo_fighting
@Todo_fighting 2 ай бұрын
@NoRockinMansLand agree, never seen a good bjj guys with good takedowns that doesn't cross train in judo or wrestling, but I know bjjs are focusing a bit more of takedowns, and most muay thai gyms don't really teach much clinching.
@stringsnare
@stringsnare Жыл бұрын
btw, could one argue boxing is in some situation, more effective than kickboxing or muay thai in the street? because in the street ppl usually wearin jeans or slim pants, which makes it significantly more difficult to kick...just a thought!
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
I totally agree boxing is way more fast-paced than kickboxing
@bommdandimite4596
@bommdandimite4596 8 ай бұрын
Boxing is the best self defensive shit you can't beat it if u doing right 💯 🤜🏾💥👊🏾💥🤛🏾
@davewilson3893
@davewilson3893 Жыл бұрын
I think you’re spot on. Great realistic perspective.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@JackMartens-xc4cv
@JackMartens-xc4cv Жыл бұрын
This guy is brilliant. I will listen to him all day.
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
Amazing perspective coach, I've never heard anyone articulate this topic quite so. You are a real blessing to listen too, keep up the momentum!
@rockyrasakith
@rockyrasakith Жыл бұрын
You made some very valid points and I agree with everything you said.
@peterios325
@peterios325 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I would want you as a boxing coach.
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 8 ай бұрын
I agree and have always known this. Boxing is very good as a foundational system. Especially the sparring. Boxing teaches effective use of head movement, footwork, develops your speed and power, you learn to take hits and keep on fighting, etc. I actually started in martial arts and my very first class was Aikido but at the same time I was boxing too. Lots of sparring in my teen years and my 20's. Throughout the years I trained in many different systems, everything from Karate to BJJ. However as good as boxing is I don't believe it is the best. It can develop a person into a fighter in the shortest time possible, that is one of it's strengths. It doesn't take very long to see results and majority of martial arts especially the traditional systems progress is very slow and it could take years before you are truly effective and gain significant results from your training. One of the drawbacks to martial arts. To really get good it takes a long time. The advantage however is you can hold your own and it makes you effective against a bigger larger attacker. The techniques are designed to cripple and take the body apart, it will also prepare you for situations where you are forced to end someone's life. Boxing doesn't. Throwing hooks, jabs, uppercuts and cross punches can only take you so far. Other than the liver and the chin boxing doesn't go for the most vulnerable areas. Punching a much larger stronger attacker in his head and face or his body might not be enough, even if you have a speed advantage. Also you have to condition your knuckles because if you punch someone in the head without gloves or wraps around your hand you could break your hand. Martial arts teaches this plus you learn to use different parts of your hand as well as your elbows, forearms, your head, your feet, etc. Even your fingers which are particularly good for attacking the eyes. Boxing doesn't teach any pressure points. Martial artists especially in the more advanced Chinese martial arts gets deep into that area of study. Also boxing has no defense against certain martial art techniques such as leg kicks and what is known as trapping and limb destruction which is commonly taught in Filipino martial arts as well as Wing Chun/Jeet Kune Do. Silat ( Indonesian martial art ) also has this as well as many types of sweeps and attacking from the ground, very unorthodox and unpredictable ways of fighting.
@Polentaccio
@Polentaccio Жыл бұрын
You could argue that the hands of boxing, basic throws of Judo, and basic wrist locks from aikido/aiki-jujutsu would take you far enough for the world outside the gym. So I guess I just described Kudo. Anyway, boxing hands are lethal.
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 2 ай бұрын
Knowing to how block leg kicks help
@DerineShorts
@DerineShorts Жыл бұрын
Just notice you didn’t touch up alot about the subject “JUDO” In judo there’s also alot of movement..fight for grips, drag opponent, offbalancing opponent, use their attack against them.. Judo moves also are mostly defences..(managing distance) to throw, sweep, takedowns..and many times the judoka could also be left standing instead..which gives him/her time to add more damage to the opponent or simply look to exit the scene. With that said there’s also alot of footwork in JUDO as well..
@dylan_krishna_777
@dylan_krishna_777 Жыл бұрын
Judo is amazing man for the streets ❤
@alishabazz7431
@alishabazz7431 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It wouldn’t hurt to learn both Boxing and Judo.
@TheMatrixofMeaning
@TheMatrixofMeaning Жыл бұрын
Judo is the most realistic martial arts for how most street fights actually start. It works in clinch range and uses take downs that are throws as opposed to single or double legs that lead to ground fighting. Someone who can throw and box is gonna be a strong fighter in the street.
@dylan_krishna_777
@dylan_krishna_777 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMatrixofMeaning Boxing - combined with Judo and your going to be a Terminator
@stormblade1199
@stormblade1199 Жыл бұрын
I don't like Judo mostly for the fact that I have done it to black belt level, and it is difficult to execute techniques with an opponent who is resisting. But it is EXTREMELY difficult to execute techniques on someone running away. If your opponent isn't willing staying in the clinch with you it is hard to get your hips under their center of gravity or to apply sweeps. I like wrestling because you can force your will by shooting, whereas in judo a lot of its success is timing based. I have also experienced firsthand that especially when there's no gi, you can have your back taken on many throws
@bdlkinetics
@bdlkinetics 2 ай бұрын
. Some really good points were made here and i can agree with most said. i have a heavy grappling and martial arts backround myself, but now, at age 50 i focus most on my boxing, footwork, timing, reading opps ....etc, and boxing (at least old school boxing) goes deeper into "grappling" than most people would think.
@glenw-xm5zf
@glenw-xm5zf 4 ай бұрын
Your info is bang on. Full contact sparring is a HUGE factor. Even after 7 months, you are hitting with power, are hard for a thug to hit, and know how to 'buy time' . A good l jab is a great weapon, to buy time or frustrate the big tough guy). f the attacker is more skilled than most thugs. You have guard, defence, footwork,., LJ -RT x L hook,, and speed. (Of course I boxed ) Also, you never lose the opwer, and the timing is alo in the Muscle memory. In karate, they stop once they landed an 'almost hist ys.. puhch, and that is often when the right starts. Not knocking karate, but unlike the boxer, they can't land a hard sucker punch (eg the thug is making threats and closing in on you. Do the boxing first, then if you like to learn the kicks of karate,7-8 months.. and then get into Judo. My dime's worth. Great clip
@raccoonmyroom6861
@raccoonmyroom6861 2 ай бұрын
I love your take on this topic.
@shabaddeepsingh6577
@shabaddeepsingh6577 Ай бұрын
I love what you are saying. I agree you feel that Boxing is more practical in real life scenario but I wish Boxers trained a bit more in defending someone trying to tackle, submissions, etc. against them. I think it’s too sport oriented and not enough self defense dirty boxing out there.
@elindioedwards7041
@elindioedwards7041 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100 %. Nothing will teach you to protect your head better than boxing. Ultimately, a well-rounded fighter needs some type of grappling, but boxing is absolutely foundational.
@WickedG5150
@WickedG5150 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see some Coach V. Beat up the heavy bag!
@avalonqt6285
@avalonqt6285 11 ай бұрын
that also might come from the fact that boxing hyper focuses on one aspect. having only one focus rather than trying to do everything all at once will lead to being significantly better at that one thing. having that hands-only focus will also lead to being able to base your footwork all around that. feel free to correct me if i’m wrong :)
@miamiboi1506
@miamiboi1506 Жыл бұрын
What's good Coach V? I'll take Boxing over any type of physical training all day. Your video reminded me of the Mayweather & McGregor fight(Classic)😂💯💪🏾🥊.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Yeah man no need to reinvent the wheel. And yes that’s funny the boxing versus MMA thing it’s always interesting to debate about!
@Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent
@Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent 4 ай бұрын
Correct. I ve done 6 yrs of boxing fought in amateur, and started BJJ and judo in recent years found that they are easy, in that what they considered a fight is a play for me.
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 2 ай бұрын
If it’s 1 vs 1 grappling is king. If it’s 1 vs 2 or more, striking is king.
@stringsnare
@stringsnare Жыл бұрын
just wanna say all your videos have excellent advice. dont stop posting. maybe do some videos on defensive basics, stance work...fundamentals that many people miss. i mean theres already videos on that and i like your more 'inner'/psychology type of vids. but yea...
@MichaelT83310
@MichaelT83310 Жыл бұрын
Very solid points. (Coming from a karate blackbelt)
@mizutxko
@mizutxko 7 ай бұрын
I do Muay Thai, Judo, and Boxing. Boxing just helps everything. I also done Wrestling because the current Judo rules are pretty bad
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 2 ай бұрын
If your dojo allows for learning leg attacks then you're chilling
@legion162
@legion162 Жыл бұрын
Loved the opening statement "... with the exception of kickboxing, particularly Muay Thai" I've never trained boxing, but can totally see how it would prepare you for being punched/attacked for real. I think, rightly or wrongly, not sure, but most martial arts seem to be soft sparing/technique building, so when you do get punched for real, it's a shock to the system and can short circuit your brain while you process wtf just happened, when you feel the pain on your face, and blood running from your nose. Finally, just agreeing with what you are saying.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha thank you brother you get where I’m coming from I have to make the exception for that particular style but yes most people are not prepared for the brutality of being punched in the face rapidly in multiple times in a short window of time!
@MarshallIgnas
@MarshallIgnas Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Even in contact sparring, you might get a sparring partner who gets excited and lets a few punches rip harder than they mean to, and nothing helps condition you to getting punched in the face or the body than taking the occasional bomb. Also there's no better reminder to keep your hands up than when you catch a right hook because your left hand's slipping.
@stringsnare
@stringsnare Жыл бұрын
@@MarshallIgnas yeah...this happened to me recently haha
@MarshallIgnas
@MarshallIgnas Жыл бұрын
@@stringsnare same here.
@kunedoman
@kunedoman Ай бұрын
AGREE! Also if boxing is your base, you'll have a huge advantage with strikes on the ground as well. BJJ, Aikido, and other grappling arts have poor footwork and don't understand the nuances of developing powerful sharp strikes . GREAT VIDEO, new subscriber here!
@libertyjustice1620
@libertyjustice1620 Жыл бұрын
Knowing some sort of self defence is all about trade-offs. I'm a complete amateur when it comes to this, but I like the simplicity of boxing, which has both a beauty and effectiveness to it. You can teach yourself the very basics by practising four types of punches and regularly shadowbox. It won't make you either a proper boxer or a self-defence expert, but it will at least give you something to work with, a certain amount of very basic self-confidence which is better than nothing. Most ordinary people don't have the time or will to put down hours of training in a gym, so this is one way of still acquiring some sort of extremely elementary self-defence capability. Having to learn only four ways of punching combined with some kind of footwork and evasive movement at least gives you a better chance than someone with no practice whatsoever.
@WarriorEsoteric
@WarriorEsoteric 2 ай бұрын
Having great footwork and being sharp and efficient with your hands is the most important skill set a man could have for defending himself
@rodrigolucena3593
@rodrigolucena3593 Жыл бұрын
Well put my friend, i’ve been thinking kind of the same thing, it sounds like you explanained what i was trying to figure out on my own. Thanks a lot for the video !!!
@troybingham6426
@troybingham6426 4 ай бұрын
Really solid points. I'll add another one.. A submission grappling based style (BJJ, judo, submission wrestling etc.) loses effectiveness in a cramped, closed off environment like a crowded bar or (God forbid) an airplane. Even kickboxing or Muy Thai would be restricted in a case like that. In that type of scenario boxing reigns supreme.
@spanishh2001
@spanishh2001 Жыл бұрын
Coming from a Shotokan background, you are %100 correct. Boxing/Muay Thai, is on a different level. Most street fights, don't go to the ground. If they do, you're in trouble( you don't want to be on the ground, in a street fight).....my opinion.....
@paolosmaldone8347
@paolosmaldone8347 8 ай бұрын
As a more than 50 years of experience in martial arts(b.b. in karate and kungfu)former kickboxer in the 80 and with grappling experience too I agree with you100%.nothing give you more useful skill and attributes in so short time like boxing.
@jessecantu7657
@jessecantu7657 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add boxing is in fact a martial art as well. It’s the art of mastering your hands to the most efficient way possible and balance and position. But yes all major combat arts are great for anyone to learn and offer something more valuable when transitioning once you get comfortable switching arts you can take some things and have an advantage once you pick up something else
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy
@WortonChavelle-kp9dy Жыл бұрын
Boxing is not a martial art by definition martial arts are Asian fighting systems that are structured with belt systems boxing is the total opposite. I hate when karate people try to act like they know everything about boxing. Who's been training for 30 years and got forty stripes on their belt and never even been punched in the face for real
@jessecantu7657
@jessecantu7657 Жыл бұрын
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy well the origination of the phrase comes from there but martial art just is a simple way of saying the art of combat either seen as a sport or for war or self defense. And yes I agree with you on some martial arts not having the experience. The advantage a lot of sport martial arts have is they have experience cause they are always fighting each other so just like anything in life you are going to get really good at it if you keep putting it to the test all the time. From my experience the difference about boxing from traditional stuff is lots of gym skip the mental practices and humility you need to develop you as a person and they just get straight to the training for boxing. If you want the spiritual side of martial arts you need the right coach or similar people that care about it
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 2 ай бұрын
​@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy that doesn't make much sense because things always go further and further back, egypt probably had the oldest form of grappling and striking. And before that people were doing it
@KudaMan
@KudaMan Жыл бұрын
Im unexperienced but I agree. I don't even want to be able to fight necessarily. I just want to know I can take punches or kicks and not crumble...I feel like all other martial arts with their ability to tap out removes this element of pain and fear of the unexpected that striking arts have. Also it seems that wrestling seems like the most realistic grappling style. It's the closest things to two apes just dueling. Start off standing up and go from there. BJJ with the gi and everything seems to be too technical at first for simple self defense purposes. I want to learn the basics of strking and grappling, not learn about how to grip a lapel and all that.
@algierssolja
@algierssolja Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of a suit or jacket? I primary train no gi, but when I put on a gi there are soooooo many ways you can control or be controlled. This will translate to suits jackets and jeans.
@sturmanaskie
@sturmanaskie 5 ай бұрын
Agree boxing is also way more fun. I’m training both in boxing and shotokan now
@KevinGallegos-c3m
@KevinGallegos-c3m 3 ай бұрын
I agree growing up a street fighter first. Then a boxer and a bjj blue belt. I put my son in bjj at 11 he is now sixteen and still too soft for a real fight. I just started him in boxing. I believe it will make him a stronger person in life.
@AtlanticFun
@AtlanticFun 8 күн бұрын
Thankyou for your insights.
@jaerbenjamin
@jaerbenjamin Жыл бұрын
Boxing because you have the rules then you can incorporate others martial arts styles striking etc into your style it works for me has made me a more fluid boxer with a little martial arts in my background As well as what you said about body harding and conditioning etc getting used to getting hit etc very true
@youtubeyotube9325
@youtubeyotube9325 Жыл бұрын
great video coach. I totally agree.
@timmartin638
@timmartin638 5 сағат бұрын
As for the law enforcement comment, you never want to strike first. Only once someone swings at you first, you can throw a punch. They follow a use of force Continuum format and that's in most departments unfortunately. Yes, you will have to grapple with somebody with a weapon on you if it gets out of hand and usually this it's very hard to disarm a weapon out of a holster unless you have experience with holsters
@davepurcell1318
@davepurcell1318 2 ай бұрын
I agree to a point, but I think having boxing first down pat and then learning Jujitsu is the best sequence to becoming an all round fighter. And it’s all about context, I am an old man now of 54 years and the main threats I might face at this stage of my life are lone wolf attacks in a car park, road rage or home invasion as apposed to when I was young and drunk in groups. So now I am not so worried if I have to go to ground using jujitsu if my striking doesn’t put the person away and they are charging at you. Look an arm drag and then rear naked choke is dam effective. The best thing I like about Jujitsu and what you don’t hear enough about in self defence are the escapes from being pinned down by just a bigger heavier person. There are truly some magical techniques that you would never think about if you never gained Jujitsu to get someone off you. Counterintuitive things that only though training can you know. If you can escape you can keep fighting or get the hell out of there if not it’s bad news and you are on a wing and a prayer. God bless
@bdlkinetics
@bdlkinetics 2 ай бұрын
plus your point to start martial arts training with boxing makes sence too, since distance and angle control (the points boxing shines) are the first things to take care of in a fight
@buhdahto
@buhdahto Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%.
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786 3 ай бұрын
I learned boxing and wrestling when I was in grade school. I learned other arts later, and I can say from experience in several street fights, boxing is my go to art.
@KeeshanCook-qm8mj
@KeeshanCook-qm8mj 5 ай бұрын
I've never trained harder for anything in my life than boxing. Just when you think you're tired coach will throw something at us. He always would tell us you got to put yourself through something
@kennetheddleman3382
@kennetheddleman3382 2 ай бұрын
Boxing and jujitsu is a nice combo, you can stand and trade and if you get knocked down you can break some ankles
@timmartin638
@timmartin638 5 сағат бұрын
I'm glad he said with the exception of Muay Thai because a mulat Thai fighter going up against a boxer is like America versus North Korea
@ezemeza1363
@ezemeza1363 8 ай бұрын
I have seen kickboxers/ MUAY THAI and MMA guys that don't know that you have to exhale when you are checking a strike. No footwork, no head movement, no head covering, no 1-2, no counter attack. Basic things.
@BillyBlanks-qm5yt
@BillyBlanks-qm5yt 3 ай бұрын
Honestly he's right I wouldn't say better than any martial art though but this is all you need in most situations
@Phan-Xu
@Phan-Xu 26 күн бұрын
I’m 6’4. Is it ok to learn the PEEK A BOO Style of boxing 🥊? (Mike Tyson)
@misanthropist3
@misanthropist3 Ай бұрын
Boxing is a martial art, and one of my faves. Muay thai, kickboxing and wrestling are my other faves.
@JoesphHogan
@JoesphHogan Жыл бұрын
Boxing is a martial art
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
Yes, just not a belt oriented one
@gracecowboy
@gracecowboy 6 ай бұрын
@@coachv3436same with wrestling and mma
@gracecowboy
@gracecowboy 6 ай бұрын
I find it stupid to refer only belt oriented fighting styles martial arts
@burningknuckle26
@burningknuckle26 3 ай бұрын
once you get really good at kickboxing or muay thai it beats boxing.
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 3 ай бұрын
Number one boxing is better for beginners because it takes less time to learn. I did Muay Thai for years before boxing. Depending on the experience, durability, athleticism and other factors just having the skills alone does not Trump boxing. Because I have seen good MT guys get wrecked with just a hands by pure boxers, so it's all circumstantial
@ClassifiedDocz
@ClassifiedDocz Жыл бұрын
In my opinion a good boxer with solid take down defense & ability to check leg kicks that would be the “elite fighter”.
@misterx956
@misterx956 Жыл бұрын
Its more like 60% judo/jujutsu, 20% boxing, 20% Kickboxing or karate. Thats what they learn in the military.
@misterx956
@misterx956 Жыл бұрын
@LimosineAndPEETZA92 No, thats why they learn martial arts
@BryanCalvente
@BryanCalvente Ай бұрын
Hey grrat video, I know its my choice, but do you think its good idea to train boxing at least 2 years and then swicth to a martial art like Bjj or Judo?
@gdubya83
@gdubya83 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen Lawrence Kenshin fight break downs. Semper Fi
@coachv3436
@coachv3436 Жыл бұрын
God bless Champ. Thank you for your service. I’ll have to take a look at him!
@gdubya83
@gdubya83 Жыл бұрын
the JRE channel brings it up often
@Veteransolo
@Veteransolo 9 ай бұрын
For self defense i only ever used boxing, and if i couldn't escape grappling i used wrestling, i used to do wrestling in high school, but boxing ever since i was 6 until 18, i sid train some muay thai and bjj in mma, But I always found boxing better for me, and wrestling.
@darylfields
@darylfields Жыл бұрын
A highly trained boxer can be scary person to get in a street fight with and plus everyone will fear and respect a man that can knock out people out
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 2 ай бұрын
People who can throw around guys are feared more, takes more strength
@leonsparta8238
@leonsparta8238 Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 exactly my experience
@hanoondarjbara7420
@hanoondarjbara7420 Жыл бұрын
Again one punch can kill a person choking somebody can to but not as fast that’s why I prefer boxing
@hectorromero8730
@hectorromero8730 Ай бұрын
What's your overall opinion of bareknuckle boxing?
@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh 3 ай бұрын
The only problem are Modern Boxers rely too much on gloves that are weapons, In street you are bare handed I think it's essencial that every fighter use Makiwara.
@Op_Intrude-N313
@Op_Intrude-N313 3 ай бұрын
Everyone should know how to strike and move efficiently while doing so. Nothing beats boxing for this. Muay Thai and Kickboxing are great because they give you access to more weapons but have a bit less of an emphasis on head movement and footwork. Regardless, everyone should know how to box, regardless of your style. As a foundation, it really can't be beat.
@saddiqstevens7200
@saddiqstevens7200 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro. Great content. I had a question. How much does heavy bag work carry over into sparring and self defense? I talk to some guys that train and they say it's completely useless. I do have experience sparring but gained a lot of injuries overtime and had to take 2 years off of training.
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt 10 ай бұрын
Not OP but self defence is maximised when your techniques become second nature. Hitting bags isn't as good as you don't get punished for mistakes but you do get to practice your techniques on a very solid target! Sparring against someone is half of it, the technique is the other half.
@hugonongbri8100
@hugonongbri8100 Ай бұрын
For 1v1 hand combat grappling is preferbale. Against multiple opponents, running away or striking is best option. So better to learn both (mma)
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