Why Browser Wars Are Silly: Here's What Matters!

Long ago I left Firefox in pursuit of testing out countless browser for my privacy and security journey. Here's my journey which demonstrates why browser wars are silly and what I suggest people do who are looking for the best privacy and security browser(s) for them. Browsers I considered (or used) were Firefox, Tor, Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, Edge, Safari, ungoogled-chromium, Arc, and Mullvad Browser.
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00:00 Browser Wars are Silly
00:16 A New Beginning
01:26 Chromium Strikes Back
03:20 Return of the Emo
05:48 The Mullvad Awakens
07:08 What's Next?
09:06 What Should YOU Do?
#browser #firefox #techlore

[@techlore]

Which browser(s) do you use?! What's your journey been like? Share your favorites below! ⬇ *Don't forget to check out the Techlore Patreon to keep our privacy content coming:* patreon.com/techlore *The mobile version of this video is finally live, check it out here!* kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWfNfmhjmZKdjsU

[@kingmongkut2202]

I am very excited for Orion by Kaggle; it is limited to Mac, but it seems to me like it is a WebKit version of brave that is just better than brave. I would love to know your thoughts.

[@blogdesign7126]

I bounce between Brave, Chromium, Firefox and Tor.

[@jondoe6608]

Soon it won't matter we will not have any choice in it when google adds the Environment Integrity API, The web won't work on anything that respects your privacy.

[@JXQU3]

Edge and vivaldi

[@ABCDEdu]

FireFox always [Containers are FIRE comparing to Chrome - before Chromium was my go-to] LibreWolf for ephemeral [switched from Brave due to resource consumption] aaaaand… OPERA & OperaGX for when I want to see the world burn :) What is your mobile setup tho? FirefoxFocus and OperaMobile are crushing it on dated Android, so Chrome is only left as an engine for WPApp's since no one really needs 100+MB big app for a one-page service that is opened twice a week :D

[@cysecgnz]

I mostly use Brave about 80% of the time, but I also use Vivaldi with some extensions simply because Vivaldi tab management is bar-none. I do have Mullvad on my system, but haven't really used it yet. Overall, really excited to see how some of these browsers evolve.

[@KZ1994able]

Word of the day: Ephermeral

[@fdabelstein]

"Try using it in a sentence" - or nine.

[@ray5357]

Ephemeral (noun): lasting for a very short time

[@NoDeal733]

@@ray5357this is the way.

[@magical_bean]

Ephermeral rift

[@pinchtwo654]

For real though I had to look it up I had no idea wtf he meant 😂

[@ashleyrose.]

Regular old Firefox is perfect for me, I don't do anything crazy with my browser, just streaming, searching, and reading the odd article here and there

[@ivan1445]

same the only thing whichis keeping me on firefox is the the out of the box pocket integration & containers

[@MadsterV]

I do crazy stuff all the time and Firefox has never failed me. He didn't actually name anything that doesn't work.....

[@Linux_zone]

​@@MadsterVsame

[@plasmatoday9950]

I don't like supporting Mozilla corporation

[@ivan1445]

@@plasmatoday9950 If not for Mozilla there would have been only chrome we need to give thanks and respect where it's due and yet not be blind hero worship or hatred towards an entire community

[@natekmbowie]

Quick tip for the Linux users, your package manager will handle updates for browsers like Chromium. There's no issues with a lack of built in updaters if you're on Linux and want to try one that lacks an auto update feature on another OS

[@pinchtwo654]

I kind of wish he had mentioned that in the video. Chromium has been my secondary browser on all my Linux systems for probably about 6 or 7 years now. I understand why people on Windows or macOS wouldn't want to deal with the manual updates, but Linux package management makes Chromium a perfectly viable option on our end of the computing world. I think every distro I've ever used had it in the repo.

[@OcteractSG]

I use Firefox and TOR. Brave is on hand just in case, but I also use it for chess and some in-browser games. What I don’t like about Brave is that every per-site change I make to Shields is permanent unless I manually change it back. The extension I use on Firefox (which KZbin censors in comments) lets me change settings (e.g., allowing JavaScript to run on the site I’m on) and then forgets the changes when I close the browser unless I click an extra button to permanently save the changes. Temporary container tabs on Firefox also give it an edge up.

[@lucieshevroy]

Yo its crazy! I stumbled across an your channel while looking up Tor! So happy for your sucess of this channel and your setup is super legit! Congrats and all the best :]

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

I use Firefox Nightly, mostly as my default, with kiwi browser, brave and tor for some other use cases. On desktop I use Firefox mostly with brave as a backup. I definitely always want to be fluent in a nonchromium option.

[@Criticalmaze]

Do headphone or iem reviews please

[@lonekid9286]

Instead of using multiple browsers, I use LibreWolf with 7 different profiles, making sure all of those have different fingerprints. 1 profile is for random browsing that automatically clears data on exit. Other 6 profiles store data persistently. Also, I kept Vivaldi (as a Chromium based alternative) just in case anything doesn't work on LibreWolf (based on Gecko).

[@techlore]

Definitely a unique one! Sounds like a nightmare for my workflow, but glad this works well for ya

[@balloontune1769]

@@techlore yeah it is a nightmare since loading a single profile loads other in background and drags down the performance

[@ABCDEdu]

@@balloontune1769 wait, what? How so? Can you provide the data/surs?

[@lonekid9286]

@@balloontune1769 I don't notice any performance issue. Profile windows load in a snap.

[@lonekid9286]

@@techlore Well, not really. Yes, setting it up is complicated and very annoying. May take an hour. But once it is set up, the workflow is smooth.

[@iampraneetverma]

Hardened firefox ❤ linux+android for everything and brave to install online web apps that are not normally available in linux like whatsapp, photopea, etc

[@techlore]

What's your hardening process on Android?

[@iampraneetverma]

@@techlore Starting with turning off data collection, changing search engine to searXNG, HTTPS mode only, enhanced tracking protection: strict mode, delete browsing data on quit, and keep close attention to site permissions and just one add-on installed which is "uBlock Origin" for awesome ad-free experience like on KZbin. And one setting in android's network setting for dns to private custom dns.

[@Nedlius]

how did you go about installing whatsapp on linux?

[@hyperdreamsurfer9141]

I like this kind of video, explaining how and why someone might change their security tools for their specific threat model. I tend to not have the time to read up on all the features of these apps, so this is very helpful.

[@richardshalla]

I always enjoy your knowledge and sensibility. Keep up the good work.

[@Semmelstulle]

I main Safari and Firefox is my non-login browser. My goal #1 is to avoid Blink/Chromium at any cost, which includes Electron. Privacy is 2nd to me

[@mrfoodarama]

Great work and advice, thanks Techlore team 👍

A few years ago I switched from Chrome to Brave and I am very satisfied. Works perfectly on Android, Linux and Windows.

[@JamesQHolden]

For me its brave

[@stalkerscarface]

Weirdly I had issues with some sites on Brave specifically that I didn't have on Librewolf that I kept as 2nd backup option. I couldn't log into ProtonMail on Brave few days ago, althought I just tried it and it works fine. But a few minutes ago I tried downloading custom ROM from devuploads and I kept getting errors on Brave, tried Librewolf and it worked. I use exact same filters so I don't see why I kept getting errors on Brave. Nevertheless, I still prefer Brave because I see them actually giving community what they want. Now you can add custom filters on Android as well, which wasn't possible not that long ago. They have their own search engine, other services as their source of income. They have much more going on for them than Mozilla ever had.

[@czdot]

I'm using both Vivaldi and Firefox. If I could stack tabs and easily configure keyboard shortcuts, I would have used Firefox exclusively. ARC is officially out now, but only for MacOS, though.

[@bionicbison05]

I was on my way to the comments to explain my workflow, but after watching the rest of the video, you did so for me! Brave for staying logged in + keeping a history for research projects etc. where that’s genuinely useful, and Mullvad for pretty much everything else.

[@fhreire]

What's anything else?

[@bionicbison05]

@@fhreire random searches, links people send me etc.

[@theovanveen975]

Harden Firefox , Brave and Tor Browser . What for browsers do you use on your smartphone

[@duser]

What do you think about firefox's multi-account containers? I've been using it on and off recently and i kinda like it. i just wish one of the containers could be set to automatically clear cookies on exit.

[@John7No]

surprised about 2 things 1. Using a chromium browser which inevitably gives control to Google and their plans to DRM the whole web 2. The url affiliation thing was not enough to question brave. For me it was not the incident itself, but the way they responded. They tried to pass it like it was a mistake, although such a mistake would probably never make it to the release unless it was deliberate. If they just accepted that they did it on purpose I would be ok-ish, but trying to brass it off really showed for me that they are not as private as they advertise. Same thing happens with their search engine where there is no documented usage of their bot crawler .

[@Alex-sn4ql]

I use Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox and Brave browser in parallel. And I agree with your conclusion to use multiple browsers in parallel.

[@thesaigoneer]

Now using Brave and Firefox, both as a flatpak. FF has been hardened through ff profile (amazing no one complains about the telemetry Mozilla puts in the product btw) and Brave also required some tweaking, but minimal. Since I consider (personal opinion) both companies as shady my love goes out to true opensource products, like Librewolf, Ungoogled Chromium etc. I will certainly put Mullvad through it's paces though. On mobile I use Brave, just bcs their sync works awesome. Vivaldi has the best mobile client for me, but he desktop browser has become a kitchensink. That's a pity. Thanks Henry, and yes tell us about your mobile journey.

[@vermasaksham5]

Mostly I use Firefox and Safari however, I do have Brave installed just incase. For most of my use cases I'm very happy with Firefox since I own a macbook and an iphone, I stick to Safari for most of my work in my iphone. Safari works the best on iphone anyway other browsers are basically Safari. Plus it also works very well keeping Apple ecosystem in mind. I'm so gonna install FF once actual FF arrives in iPhones. What I like the most about FF is the PiP window which has it's own controls built-in which is way better than in any Chromium browser (in my experience). Not to mention the security that we get with FF.

[@Mojo_DK]

I use librewolf with ublock origin on medium mode. I use librewolfs multi-account containers to separate different things like Google stuff, banking, e-mail, online shopping, streaming, college, other accounts and so on. Librewolf deletes all cookies etc whenever I close it but I have whitelisted some websites to stay locked in (but I try to keep that list as short as possible). For everything else I just use my bitwarden extension. As a VPN I use the Safing SPN. I feel really safe with my setup. On special occasions I use the tor browser...but that rarely happens.

[@ghosthunter0950]

Great video, I think i'm gonna try out the mullvad browser. Really looking forward to a video on libre wolf and arkenfox!

[@stanthebamafan]

I pretty much only use Brave. I’m privacy-conscious, but not especially tech savvy. I just wanted a simple browser that I can set and forget. I like that Brave works across all my devices, and that it uses chromium so there shouldn’t be problems on almost any website.

[@maple_twig]

I'm currently using Brave for browsing and private Safari windows for logged in services.

[@userharrisel]

On my M1 mac, currently using Firefox for ephemeral stuff and Brave for signed in accounts (mainly youtube). Somehow I’m using Safari for signed-in accounts also because Brave is choppy on M1 chip. On iOS, everything is done on DDG browser except internet banking, that is on firefox or safari (sometimes)

[@ekinteko]

If privacy isn't a concern, the best browsing experience is probably Safari on Mac/iOS. It's just so darn efficient. Google Chrome is so bad these days, it's very very different to Brave Browser. Firefox has periods of "it's okay" to "it's very good" in the past 20 years. It's no longer very efficient so I think it works better as a privacy focus product. There are certainly better browsers out there for privacy, but they have compatibility issues. I don't see people needing to use Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, or the other weird niche options. Most people only use ONE browser. However they should be using TWO. And depending on their use case perhaps THREE. I think having four (or more) browsers is pointless though.

[@roneeh7332]

What use cases do you use brave over mullvad? Im trying to figure out the use case of using different browsers, i get the tor browser for onion sites. I usually use browsers for social media and media consumption.

[@Bits4you]

firefox is good for me and has been for over a decade. I have used Mullvad and see myself switching over bit by bit. mobile browser experience would be a good video if you were to make one.

[@frecklefacedgod]

I'd really like to know what browser/s you use for your mobile devices. I use almost exclusively Brave, though I'm not enjoying my experience with its search engine. I do really appreciate being able to sync multiple devices so that I can access my tabs, but I'm considering changing my threat model and forgoing the benefits of syncing for improved privacy.

[@StiekemeHenk]

Wrong FireFox logo. That's the one for the FireFox family of products like VPN, Pocket, Monitor, Relay, etc. Not the logo for the FireFox Browser.

[@prism5199]

I'd like to hear about your mobile journey! 😊

[@madthumbs1564]

Curious why script blockers or other extensions or user scripts / configurations aren't part of the equation. If you put Brave up against any other browser with ublock origin for adblocking - it loses. -(that mean's Brave's adblocker along with it's crypto BS is just bloat). With Brave's list of scandals; who would trust Brendan Eich? -How did Brave get so widely popular (one of those scandals).

[@ray5357]

Firefox will always be my go-to browser.

[@RockawayCCW]

I've been using Brave for KZbin and Firefox for everything else. If Mulvad is available for Linux, I'll give it a try.

[@Mega_Casual]

Thanks for the great info. Do you have a link to that webpage that shows side-by-side comparisons of browsers like you show in this video? Thank you.

[@rajmir1169]

thanks for this video & I found it when I was searching for a browser to work alongside with my brave browser

[@FengLengshun]

There's also something like Ferdium, which is useful for just having your accounts logged in, in a containerized setting. Though most of them don't have extensions, and looking for one with extensions on Linux led me to Wavebox which is paid if you want more than 1 extensions and 2 cookie containers. I wish Ferdium could just have uBlock and Tampermonkey, that would have been enough tbh

[@oscs4556]

I use Firefox, brave and Tor myself. Firefox has telemetry, pocket and onboard etc stripped out by my Nixos configuration.

[@jc.baptiste]

Very interesting thoughts, thanks. I almost had the same path as you. However, I don't understand why you stick to the Tor browser, when Brave offers one click away a "private windows using Tor network". Are you aware of it?

[@Paul-vi3on]

While it is possible, the Tor project themselves strongly recommend using only the official Tor browser. The idea is to further reduce any chance of fingerprinting if all Tor users use the same exact browser.

[@YaniX_3]

i use firefox with betterfox and the materialfox plus theme and it's just perfect, works fast, everything just works and i really like it. i do have brave installed as well and librewolf and ungoogled chromium just because it's always good to have more than one browser.

[@wlonsdale1]

You know Google owns firefox, right?

[@b.h.8137]

I'm just about to revamp my whole phone and PC setup in the name of privacy (still doing the research about it), so I'd love to hear about your mobile browser setup.

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

Me too! I supporr this!

[@rigierish3807]

For mobile, Brave is the best browser because it blocks by default fingerprints and considering you can hardly install extensions on your phone with Firefox, built-on extensions are pretty much you only way. For the setup on Brave, you can aggressively block every fingerprints, I didn't have any broken sites due to that, despite what it says. You can block all cookies but bear in mind depending on the site, you want some cookies to exist, so just block manually only cookies cross-sites and for the ads, you can aggressively block them. No script is also an option that for me, is by default now, but some people may not like it as this one will definitely break most sites. However, what's great is that you can always unblock it per site, so if one site is too broken, you can disable it.

[@ChrisM243]

Any chance you might cover the Kiwi browser on Android? Since it is one of the very few that can fully use the Chrome addons on mobile.

[@elgonococogranuja]

I'm currently testing out 4 browsers on android 😅 i know it is overkill but honestly can't decide. Mostly using Brave for (almost) everything and DDG for images search. On desktop i'm all in on Firefox with some helpful addons like one that lets you customize and toggle off youtube options

[@Tibasu]

I have a memory leak issue with brave and watched this to see if you mentioned it or an alternative browser that was similar

[@Wild_Cat]

Librewolf

[@musikkimies]

Great video. Could you talk more about ephemeral vs non-ephemeral uses? I'm guessing the latter is for things like KZbin, email, etc where you don't necessarily have to enter login info everytime (where convenience and speed is important), and the latter is basically anything else -- stuff you don't Google/Facebook/whatever following you around with. Close?

[@farouqstray1411]

You guessed it

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

What is the best way to download these browsers?

[@gustavofigueiredo1798]

I'd be interested to hear about your mobile journey!

[@MrDormant]

im stuck on which to use as my main browser. harden firefox for the longest time, then pivoted to brave since can sync in different platforms. mullvad into the mix now, but trying to figure how i should continue. For banking or risking whatever I have vms for them. idk still figuring my plan out.

[@micahpants]

I definitely want to see a video on your mobile journey

[@RockTheCage55]

Well if your taking for anything i use a WIDE variety of browsers because i'm a web developer :). But for my own use mostly brave and a little bit of librewolf. The only thing that i HATE about librewolf on the mac is its a pain everytime its updated because the librewolf project (understandably) doesn't want to purchase a apple developer license so it is kind of a pain the update (i use homebrew primarily)).

[@ThatMacCat]

I have been using Arc browser for a while and it’s good. But, I need a Privacy Review from you and you just need to sign up for a waitlist. For Productivity, it’s perfect!

[@glemast]

In Brave have you tried the New private window with tor tab?

[@ExpertManOfficial]

I only use 2 browser: Librewolf and Vivaldi. Currently I use mostly Vivaldi then Librewolf, just because...I like its features and its UI! But Librewolf I use as well....not so much now, but before I discovered how amazing Vivaldi is, Librewolf was the most browser I used to. Brave.......holy f**k Brave Rewards sucks in my opinion. Crypto? No thanks. I want a browser without any of those suspicious stuff. And yeah, would be cool to see a video from you where you would compare differences of Librewolf&Mullwad Browser. Like, which one is better? What the other one can do while other can't? Please do a video about it. Thank you in advance :-)

[@penultimatename6677]

Privacy and security is number one for sure. Another issue is rendering. A page faithfully rendering CSS, JavaScript and responding accurately with Ajax. Safari is terrible in this regard. Microsoft browsers also had this issue but now less so with Edge. I find Firefox to be number one in this area. Brave is excellent in all regards.

[@penultimatename6677]

I might add my dismay with how phone app versions are so different from the desktop. From settings, bookmarks, etc

[@cldream]

I currently use a sandboxed (a separate sandbox outside of the one built into browsers) Ungoogled Chromium with a preset profile (with extensions/tweaks) loaded to a ramdisk that gets deactivated when the browser closes. However I also have Librewolf and Tor Browser (the former that I plan to have the same setup as aforementioned, and Tor Browser is on occasional use). As far as Brave though, I really want to love it for the privacy features, but I just can't seem to hide the Brave ads/BAT stuff. I do wish there's a toggleable option for those who don't really have a use case for or just don't want to see them.

[@phillipanselmo8540]

thoughts on nyxt and qutebrowser? I kinda want to use those but never researched how private they are

[@kalkulusrampage]

whats the difference between librewolf and mullvad browser? isnt the same use case?

[@TheStrangeMann]

I mostly just use brave on PC but on mobile I just use whatever is the default browser out of the box pretty much. My phone is a Google P6 and is my main and only smartphone. I was running Calyx and using brave as my main and only browser and really liked it but I never tried GrapheneOS so that's what I am running now and have had some minor bugs/problems with it but I don't know if I might switch back to Calyx or not but I really don't want to have to reset my phone (again). Also I would like to hear more about your mobile configuration and why you don't use GrapheneOS and etc.

[@user-gf9bk2xs8y]

Don't want to be dramatic, but Edges side bar changed my life. And spilt screen mode. Amazing

[@redds7]

I am no fan of any browser wars, i am always recommending brave but personally i am strugling with firefox, librewolf, brave and somehow safari.

[@Narutoshi]

I want a video that you explain your mobile browser journey :D

[@pbonandin]

did you try Presearch on mobile?

[@rationalbushcraft]

Yes please let us know what your mobile setup is. That is what I use most. My desktops are headless and I do a lot of work at clients sites. Did you see the Google proposal that is purported to be for security but is actually just a way to force chromium on everyone because websites won't be able to load without it? It will kill most addons especially those that block ads.

[@landotter]

cool to introduce new concepts to consider👍

[@laarsss]

I'd like to see your mobile configuration, especially iOS :)

[@giomari4246]

I currently only use 2 browsers. Google Chrome for my work since my work email is deeply tied to Google, and Firefox for my personal usage. I tried Opera but, it just doesn't stick to me like gum. Tried Vivaldi and I'm much more overwhelmed in using it rather than Chrome so, I ditched it. Brave is kinda good except that, yes, for privacy concerns, the sync of bookmarks is only made by scanning qr code but, as a person who loves syncing almost everything between gadgets, I decided to stick to Firefox and Chrome

[@alvankarpas6245]

Consider, the Opera browser with it's built-in VPN. Which by rights is wide open to the Chinese. That said, it means that data will not be available to Five Eyes and so you can consider it a more secure VPN than even the commercial versions which can be forced to legally surrender data to authorities (in the West). Just a thought for your more sensitive browsing.

[@vismithams]

why I am getting half window in all new tabs in this mullward browser? How I can get full windows whenever I open new tabs

[@redeyesdrogon786]

This wasn't just a video; this was an open break up video for the Techlore-Firefox relationship. Techlore is the browser heart breaker 💔

[@cori1302]

Yes I would like to hear about mobile browsers, android, etc

[@RTGav007]

I'd find the mobile configuration example/journey/thoughts video very interesting!

[@vincentwilkes9611]

On the Macbook, I use Epic for youtube and the goog login. It seems to contain google so far as I can tell.

[@Volnas97]

Finally someone whose browser journy was/is about as complicated as mine. I feel like I've tried almost every browser, there is/was, before finally deciding on: PC 1: Vivaldi (85%, mostly because of awesome customisability), Edge (for work/school, so about 10%) PC 2: Brave (70%, though I might switch this one) Edge (30%, mainly for their Application Guard feature, that sandboxes it) and every now and then DuckDuckGo browser

[@OpenEnjoyer]

Personnaly i just use classic firefox on desktop and android because i dont want the only real concurrent of chromium die but i think i will soon change to librewolf or hardened firefox

[@QuantaSolace]

I prefer Brave, but at the same time I want to get away from the Chromium monopoly. Orion is webkit based but it's in beta and is a little buggy. It's also Mac only.

[@Keyshooter]

kinda the same actually, after mullvad was announce my two browsers are FF and mullvad browser

[@sunewjenkuzo2835]

I tried almost every browser to the point I mainly use vivaldi now and sometimes Edge to see how well it's still holding up I know Edge is not very great on privacy so I just use it for youtube, anime and use it when I want to by something from amazon. But still use Vivaldi mostly for youtube since I can stack all the youtube tabs cause for some weird reason I like to have a lot so I can stay on my favorite youtubers page while one or two is for memes or whatever I want to watch. Vivaldi's tab stacking is best for me since it cleans up the tab bar and makes it easier for me to get to certain tabs. Edge is just a fun thing to try out even if no one likes it XD.

[@Highlander13072]

Very interested in mobile privacy, I rarely use a desktop/laptop any more.

[@NoddinOff.]

Brave has a Tor mode, why would you continue using the Tor browser?

[@bforbeta]

Firefox is a fantastic browser, but it's not worth the trouble if it's incompatible with my day-to-day work and activities.And, in my opinion, there is no such thing as an all-in-one solution [the so-called ecosystem]. Different tools are required for different activities.

[@LLPOF]

There are only 3 browsers available today 1) LibreWolf 2) Ungoogled Chromium 3) Tor

[@majeedsorbujane458]

Brave? Mullvad Browser? Dencentr?

[@Bludersbunch]

I am almost exclusively on Android and for that its Vivaldi. Its faster than anything else I have tried, mainly Firefox and Brave. Plus Vivaldi is leading all browsers with their support and presence on decentralized Mastodon social media.

[@encycl07pedia-]

Vivaldi has the worst community ever, even if it's the best overall GUI desktop browser. I hated the mobile app.

[@reduxflakes]

I find the Vivaldi community friendly

[@JXQU3]

​@@encycl07pedia-how

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@reduxflakes They're very friendly if you have absolutely no critiques of the browser whatsoever. I got harassed in the forums for pointing out flaws and then banned when I downvoted a vitriolic reply. I'm not even joking. The mods are worse than Reddit ones.

[@danmar007]

All wars are silly.

[@realglz]

What are your thoughts on Epic browser?

[@gregcampwriter]

After trying a variety--not Mullvad yet, but I'll see--I've gone with Chromium. I like the idea of Ungoogled Chromium, but installing extensions is a battle, and I refuse to spend time on the Internet without ad blockers. I'm not committed, but Chromium works for me.

[@wisequigon]

it's brave fault that it switches youtube video quality? i don't have this problem on Edge...

[@Anu4ManU]

I use mostly Firefox, Librewolf, Mullvad & TOR. Safari i think not available on Linux.

[@micahchaney1904]

Can you give a little more pros and cons on Vivaldi? Sounded like you were saying it's just too complicated. Is that it? Any other shortcomings? Thanks

[@masiv1001]

for me it is not only complicated, but bloated, on top of that the project is closed source, meaning you can't know what exactly is your browser doing (a.k.a. telemetry, trackers), the cherry on top is it being chromium based, personally, while I still like projects like Brave (they give a simple solution when recomending browsers for anyone to use) being based on chromium means Google still has too much leverage over how it works, and by extend, how the internet works, manifest v3 is a proof of that. I myself use librewolf with some things enabled but it (firefox included) have a long way (thankfully they have recently optimized it a lot :D), things like the Mozilla-Google contract come to mind... We'll see what awaits us!

[@Monthii]

yes, please show your mobile setup!

[@jordanthomas883]

Do you still use nextdns with ivpn

[@techlore]

yep

[@villenmillenion7986]

Have you tested the temptest browser by any chance?

[@ecoholic84]

Please do a video about your mobile setup!

[@Skyman12808]

Hey Mr Henry Have you Tried Cromite its a fork of bromite browser its so much better than the og and also have better af block filters

[@mikeypiontek2855]

I use brave nightly on my phone so I can get the most recent updates very quickly

[@marstedt]

Win7x64 with 2023-07 updates - "LibreWolf has stopped working" on every startup and shutdown. Firefox and Brave are fine.

[@velvetvideo]

Vivaldi and Firefox. Security? ..might try Tor. Keyboard warrior? Nyxt.

[@Android-47]

Isn't brave already working with forgetfull browsing ? I tested here and brave forget's about everything that isn't whitelisted. I don't know if there is more too it for it to be ephemeral, but it seems really similiar to the way mullvad works. just a reminder that this function is quite confusing you have to go to "clear browsing data" > "on exit" and there you select everything but cookies and other site data, then you go back to "privacy and security" > "cookies and other site data" and there you check "clear cookies and site data when you close all windows", and bellow that you can whitelist the sites you want. I think this way brave works 100% like a private window but you can be logged in on the sites you want.

[@techlore]

As of today it's not live in the public release: discuss.techlore.tech/t/brave-1-53-1-56-finally-released/4912 What you're referring to is not their upcoming forgetful browsing feature, though it's accomplishing something similar!

[@Android-47]

@@techlore yeah, my mistake here guys, sorry. I went to read brave's article and there's much more to it than i initially tought.