Why Captive Tigers Can’t Be Reintroduced to the Wild | WIRED

[@adamgrogory]

"What happens to all those tigers? We don't know." That's insane.

[@Ekaekto]

They are likely euthanized.

[@Leo-zk9rd]

Maybe sold for pelts or to China for medicine

[@greathingsaregold]

adamgrogory they want to euthanize an endangered species.

[@taniabn]

@@Leo-zk9rd that would be impractical, they would have to raise them fully for that (they disappear when they are less than six months old), which is very costly, since feeding a big cat it's outrageously expensive. Not even considering the costs of transportation of such a cargo to another continent. They are most likely euthanized or illegally sold to other people as pets

[@Leo-zk9rd]

@@taniabn you underestimate how much money there is to be made in the wildlife trade

[@renleblanc2993]

I'm going to commend the interviewer here - great questions and very well conducted interview!

[@LindaC616]

Yes, the questions that the doc should have asked

[@tawandachristopher]

Ren LeBlanc icedwhite mocha Truth Convoy people should avoid zoos and just visit game reserves in Africa (Tanzania) or India www.zanzibartourstransfers.com

[@abdullahsagheer6543]

Exactly, straight to the point no BS

[@gd4812]

Absolutely! many journalists seems to think that every interview is about themselves and not about the subject!

[@mugin11223344]

No matter who wins, the big cats lose.

[@hugozaanen7587]

Carole baskins buys these tigers that get trafict, baskins actually uses her resources for a higher better goal then someone that runs a sexcult, was/is a drug pin or held teenagers captive with drugs.

[@zickykane5206]

@@hugozaanen7587 You're a complete idiot.

[@hugozaanen7587]

@@cn2673 that's sensationalist bullhshit

[@hugozaanen7587]

@@cn2673the murder is completely shaky at best. The cages is circumstancely, do they need more space, yes. Is it available, no. Not because she wants to cramp up these creatures. They cannot be left loose in the wild.

[@oddbackgroundmusic8683]

@@cn2673 The animals have smaller cages attached to their larger enclosure specifically so they can eat separately to prevent fighting. That is not their full time living environment. They are only in there for at most a few minutes, twice a day.

[@liv97497]

I love cats, and I absolutely LOVE big cats, and it would be an absolute dream to pet or hug a little tiger or lion cub. But I would never, in a million years, do it. Loving animals is about recognizing what's best for *them*, not indulging your crazy dreams to hold them or have them as a pet. Keeping a wild animal for yourself, or giving money to places that do that kind of thing, is the epitome of human selfishness. Animals do not exist for our entertainment.

[@borealernadelwald]

Tigers have always been one of my absolute favourite animals - so of course I'd love to cuddle a tiger. but I'm the same as you - I like animals to be able to live as true to their nature as possible. Watching Tiger King made me so angry, seeing big groups of tigers in small cages (they are solitary animals, goddamnit!) and the cubs being taken as soon as they are born just to be exploited for a few months. My heart is bleeding for those poor animals.

[@lauryn5701]

Texas Forever We don’t OWN wild animals.

[@lauryn5701]

Texas Forever The only thing you own is the trailer in the woods. Sit Down. Be QUIET. 🤫

[@lauryn5701]

Texas Forever Hushhhh 🤫 I think your mammy is calling you to eat your roadkill. If you help her set the dinner table, then you might be able to go huntin tomorrow.

[@DeanaJacksonFrazier]

@Texas Forever The difference is dogs and cats are domesticated and tigers are not.

[@rebeccaparke3453]

With all the commentary about the various other crimes Joe Exotic and his friends have commited, it is honestly refreshing to hear an expert clearly state how this treatment of big cats is wrong and downright unethical.

[@AwkwardYet]

I thought that would be anything but unnoticeable

[@homewall744]

Unethical to raise captive tiger suggest it's better to just lose tigers since they will continue to diminish in the wild.

[@jorgemendez4517]

Same as that Carol Baskins

[@taraterm3]

@@jorgemendez4517 who is the heroine here...help her support the Big Cat Safety Act.

[@StAlchemyst]

Shut up Carol.

[@NightshadeGoddess]

The thing I hated the most about ALL of the people (edit: in the show) is that they honestly believe that they do the best for these animals by keeping them in small cages and hitting them when they do what a big cat do. Also the excessive breeding and then stealing of the cubs can't be good for the tiger mothers well being...

[@tessat338]

In the wild, tigers breed every two years or so. In captivity, the female tigers are often bred as soon after they deliver as possible, as many as two or three times a year. This is terrible for them as they are not meant to reproduce this often. They end up having all sorts of health problems.

[@taraterm3]

not Carole. Shes fighting for the tigers, visit her Big Cat Sanctuary website. Her cages are truly bigger than the show let on.She doesnt breed animals, she doesnt put on shows. Tours are held to pay for their care.

[@LuuMonty]

taraterm3 she a murderer too

[@jajaonnazaza]

taraterm3 I’m not defending neither Joe or Carole because she’s a hypocrite too because she’s still keeping Tigers and not breeding them in the way they can be reintroduced into the wild, most zoos have a program that breeds wild animals in large enclosures with very little human contact so they can keep their prime genetical instincts. So yea Carole really isn’t doing much as a so called “animal rights activist”

[@NightshadeGoddess]

@@jajaonnazaza yeah my thoughts exactly, she also bred these animals for the longest time. I think she's only found a better business model in this animal "industry" by pretending to be against breeding and such.

[@reachon7396]

Honestly i was completely uninformed about this, the thought did cross my mind, like why stop in captivity breeding if its an endangered species, but this interview explained it very well, support conservation zoos not roadside zoos

[@professorbutters]

Reachon Yep! The way I do it is, I donate to a sanctuary to take care of the ones here humanely, donate to an AZA zoo to help preserve actual species, and donate to Panthera, which tries to preserve habitat and keep wild tigers where they belong. It’s not tons of money, but every little bit helps. Check out Panthera for sure. They also have cool T shirts. And nobody paid me to say that.

[@bjs301]

A central Ohio man who had his own private wild animal park released his entire collection before killing himself in 2011. Law enforcement agencies had to find and kill about 50 bears, wolves, tigers, lions and so forth. Columbus Zoo officials were able to capture only a handful of animals alive. That's what it took to get legislation passed to outlaw private ownership of exotic animals here.

[@rzr2ffe325]

Those cops got to do something rare that day. Something they probably will never again in their careers. And that was gun down tigers by the bucketload.

[@stevet5379]

Pathetic beyond description.

[@LindaC616]

For a form letter for your state rep, go to aldf.org and enter your name, zip code, and click "send"

[@bjs301]

@@LindaC616 Don't need one. As I mentioned, Ohio outlawed the practice following the 2011 incident.

[@LindaC616]

@@bjs301 This is in regards to the national act, which would Ban private ownership at the national level. Your state representatives do have a vote in that discussion

[@LagParty]

Why would someone want to own a huge, difficult to maintain and feed tiger when you can have a domestic cat that will treat you exactly the same?

[@dl2839]

Because they are crazy. I don't think that it should be illegal to own Tigers though, if you do that then you should make owning cats illegal, too.

[@bxttersweetheart]

@@dl2839 Cats aren't the same thing as tigers even though they are both felinae and share common characteristics. Cats can live perfectly healthy and long lives as pets, they aren't an endangered species and they have been domesticated since remote times. Also, a cat can't kill you just by playing with you, unlike a Tiger. I don't see how you're making it as if Tigers = Cats

[@dl2839]

@@bxttersweetheart Should it have been illegal to domesticate Cats in the first place? Should it have been illegal to domesticate Dogs? Dogs can kill humans and they certainly could when they were wolves. Making things illegal just because you disagree with the practice is no way to run society.

[@Jimbobjimberoo]

David Lieberman it’s illegal because they are one of the fiercest cats and will kill you in an instant if they want. And it has happened many times, then you are left with an endangered pet that’s stuck in their closure or they get loose and kill more people. It’s simple logic to see why it’s illegal. I don’t care about talking about the domestication of cats or dogs. Simply put, they are too big and dangerous to be kept as a pet

[@dl2839]

@@Jimbobjimberoo Ever since Henry Ford tamed the model T around the American Mid-west in 1908, they have killed many humans in an instant when they want to. If people used your Simple-*ton* logic we would've banned the ownership of the dangerous and fierce beasts known as cars a hundred years ago.

[@MJ-mp1fx]

How hard would it have been for the Tiger King miniseries to include this info? They really missed an opportunity to say something important.

[@LindaC616]

Sadly I fear that it's because the average American mind doesn't want anything that sounds like school, and they would just turn off. They're catering to the reality TV crowd who need bright and shiny every 30 seconds

[@EmeraldMara85]

The Tiger King series was created by a very rich man, Eric Goode who has no trouble firing his staff during Covid-19 with no warning period. These kind of people is only around to make publicity and money while damning everyone else.

[@mrteezy3915]

This info was in the show

[@LindaC616]

@@EmeraldMara85 And the director a bit of a collector himself...

[@mrblackbird6936]

Sending a domesticated tiger in the wild is like sending a civilian to war with no training.

[@mrblackbird6936]

@Arrow Boy ik but it will struggle with survival. Imagine a tiger born in captivity. Food is given to most of it life, it not used to hunting. Plus, their habitat is being taken over by urbanization and for the tiger it entire life, they associated humans with food. This can lead to them being easily killed by farmers. Some wild tigers dont hang around human territory.

[@kitwhitfield7169]

Maybe more like releasing a completely institutionalised person into society with no education, life skills or training.

[@markburn4943]

Well if stray dogs and cats can survive I'm sure a hungry tiger in the wild will find a way to eat

[@michaelgibbons4297]

Mark Burn key word stray they weren’t raised by humans

[@markburn4943]

@@michaelgibbons4297 how do u think strays become strays guy somebody owned them at some point or another and we talking bout a 500lb tiger even tigers in captivity still have instincts

[@highestqualitypigiron]

They're such a special animal, it would be horrible to see them go extinct

[@4belozero]

Lucian Leesonja that won’t happen

[@senordoge2674]

el negaro they’ll downsize to dog level

[@vijg6914]

habitat conservation

[@taylorf8758]

Glad we can say that about animals but not races lol

[@tylerjacobson8012]

The title of this video should’ve been. “The actual important things that the stupid joe exotic tiger documentary forgot to talk about”. The ultimate victims in that stupid documentary is the tigers. They’re not built for captivity. They’re not meant to be domesticated.

[@JoeyKlu]

*Bump*

[@aleahl4765]

thank you for finally saying it. and them victimizing Joe Exotic

[@homewall744]

So it's better to have no tigers than captive ones? After all, captive tigers don't diminish the wild populations, and nobody really wants wild tigers.

[@redheadedwoman]

Thank you! So sick of all the hype and everyone ignoring the fact that tigers are not pets!

[@CatIsMad]

Idk tbh it's kinda stupid to blame the documentary. They were just filming what was going on. Blame the people actually keeping the tigers

[@livf891]

It rly angers me that there are people buying “free joe exotic” tshirts. They’re so ignorant to the actual issues of the topic

[@levyroth]

What's the actual issue? Joe is against the breeding and selling of big cats in the US. He proved his point by doing exactly that. The laws need to change.

[@megalodon4586]

@@levyroth People should listen to his employees, they all hate him for a reason. Netflix didn't show the worst of him.

[@professorbutters]

He’s a convicted animal abuser. The evidence is right on camera. I don’t wish him worse than what he has, but he needs a good long time to think about what he did. And based on some footage with Louis Theroux years ago, I don’t know if he could be trusted. He’d probably start up all over again, like someone who hoards cats or worse.

[@alextran8188]

#FreeJoeExotic

[@werroloco3112]

You should be angry over things that matter

[@melantus]

Did anyone skin crawl a little when that tiger roared at the end of the video. Yeesh, I don't know how anyone could think having one as pet is a good idea.

[@mirensummers7633]

All Might the pacing tiger just before that really scared me

[@UncleYis]

*pet

[@mollieconstance2159]

All Might my skin crawled because that roar doesn’t belong behind a cage

[@PaleozoicProductions]

Mau

[@helentelehowski679]

I wanted a tiger when I was little but then I grew up lol. I wll take my little tabby cat.

[@falseflag7680]

There’s no excuse for animal abuse!

[@tlvidriss5806]

None !

[@incharak1927]

@G gtfo

[@tlvidriss5806]

The gentleman is talking about animal abuse ( pets and wild ) not about owning a pet 😅

[@kayilla6413]

chicken tastes nice

[@alejandroquinonez1836]

@G okay let's not get too out of hand now buddy

[@Riley-iw4ot]

THANK YOU for talking about what no one else is! This is what they should have talked about in the documentary, really disappointed in Netflix. Thank you for interviewing an actual expert and talking about the important issues.

[@G83tv]

magicalgirlriley they did talk about this but it cut out.

[@raulruizdevelasco6215]

This video was so refreshing to watch. Its content is so much more educational than the actual documentary. Thank you so much, Wired!

[@ogami1972]

"WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT ALL THESE TIGERS?". Godammit, america.

[@onkelpappkov2666]

The answer was in the video. Tiger parts sell extremely well on the esoteric black market. Because tiger balls make your pee-pee stronk if you pray to Zukzuk.

[@tawandachristopher]

Michael Corley icedwhite mocha Truth Convoy people should avoid zoos and just visit game reserves in Africa (Tanzania) or India www.zanzibartourstransfers.com

[@marquesproductions6098]

Michael Corley free my guy joe

[@pound4pound380]

No where. Its no different than just throwing your dog out into the jungle. The domestic tiger population isn't a problem. I'm worried about the the tigers getting killed in the wild

[@odashushu]

Onkel Pappkov zukzuk? Please elaborate lol

[@goldeneagle295]

Thank you for making a video like this to explain why breeding tigers does nothing to help the wild populations, but only helps the people who breed them and exploit them for profit

[@Crest28]

Tiger king documentary has actually glorified domesticating big cats versus raising awareness on the actual crisis of big cats

[@rzr2ffe325]

If you're a simple minded viewer maybe.

[@taylorkenyon1447]

tyson thao that’s how I viewed it too.

[@9hoppybunny]

....how? the documentary clearly shows that these cats are mishandled, and portrays everyone who supports their captivity as kind of an idiot

[@nairabee245]

Rzr2ffe a surprising amount of people are simple minded...

[@getasimbe]

@@rzr2ffe325 Exactly. I'm starting to realize that most people might be kind of simple because some of these comments are just head scratchers.

[@icedmocha5264]

Too bad Tiger King never focused on any of this. Shame on the documentary.

[@tawandachristopher]

icedwhite mocha Truth Convoy people should avoid zoos and just visit game reserves in Africa (Tanzania) or India www.zanzibartourstransfers.com

[@ssh1487]

Louis Theroux’s 14th (i think?) episode on netflix featuring joe exotic is the zoo ethics documentary i was expecting tiger king to be

[@ssh1487]

Louis Theroux’s 14th (i think?) episode on netflix featuring joe exotic is the zoo ethics documentary i was expecting tiger king to be

[@marquesproductions6098]

icedwhite mocha free my guy joe

[@jessicamessica6327]

Jackson Galaxy did a video on where the documentary failed.

[@theonetheonlyw5483]

All "domesticated" big cats should have their own massive sanctuary somewhere together.

[@LindaC616]

The ones that exist are doing what they can. Because each cat requires a large amount of acreage 1 big 1 would probably not be manageable. The one in Colorado is pretty huge.

[@mints7349]

Thats basically what Big Cats Rescue with Carole...Funny that the only person actively fighting it was vilified...

[@gingerbadjie9670]

It’s called the wild. But humans are destroying it. Day by day. That’s where they need to be. Not behind bars.

[@Coolrunnings007]

kaki ob yeah because she killed her husband. Come on her cages smaller and not particularly good or even natural habitat. So nah she is not good

[@spacesharkz6743]

@@Coolrunnings007 Obviously you've never been there before. I volunteered for a short time, their habitats are not small, and they are very well maintained. All tigers have a pool, some even have a portion of a lake to swim in, and their lynx has an indoor air conditioned area for when he needs to cool down. BCR is part of the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries... so yeah, they're "good". Do your research.

[@kirchoff4733]

Netflix Series never mentioned this once. Instead it presented Big Cat Rescue as a private zoo just like this breeding faciliy Joe Exotic was running.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Well that's because it is a private zoo, on top of that it's not accredited by the AZA and most of it pens are smaller than Joe exotic's zoo. Also you are lying Carole says herself on the show that she doesn't breed them and just let's them grow old and die. So the documentary does make it clear she doesn't breed.

[@icedmocha5264]

Yes. It's horrible how they misrepresented BCR. This documentary hasn''t done anything for BIG cats.

[@julianrender8212]

@@Alex-cw3rz it's not a private zoo. It's a sanctuary. It's a big difference.

[@atomknight8361]

@@Alex-cw3rz BCR isn't accredited by the AZA because they don't breed. Did you even watch the video?

[@LindaC616]

@@Alex-cw3rz No, it is not accredited by the USDA as a zoo. That is Joe and Antle, because the USDA does not distinguish between professionally run AZA accredited zoos and roadside zoos like Joe's and Antle's which are ZAA accredited (basically, an organization that advocates for private ownership of exotics). Because Carol's does not breed, she qualifies as a sanctuary. They are accredited by the GFAS, which is hard to get and maintain.

[@leeolsson5271]

Thank you so much for this! Somebody needed to bring this up!

[@teclawarren8014]

🕵️‍♂️🔫🗡🔫

[@writerconsidered]

We never domesticated big cats, we domesticated small cats, there's a reason for that.

[@jorgemendez4517]

Wel...because small cats hunt pests and big cats don’t

[@brothermanv]

Not sure if you noticed, but your entire comment rhymes

[@suckapunch565]

Actually, Ancient Egypt domesticated cheetahs, which is why cheetahs up to a year old can be tamed by humans. www.thevintagenews.com/2018/12/22/egyptians-cheetah/

[@roshn.i]

@@suckapunch565 they meow too

[@a.k.salazr]

suckapunch565 tamed and domesticated are not the same

[@maryrabelo.s.wagner8346]

For a second I read: Why can't stupid humans be abandoned and totally forgotten FOREVER into the wild? The fewer stupid people in this world the better.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

See that's a problem. One time we send all the stupid people to an island, and we just got Australia

[@peoplesdreamsneverend2709]

9:17 You can see the suffering in its eyes. That's terrible

[@PseudoLlama]

I don't know... It looks like it got into cocaine.

[@entropicpedro]

It looks like it's been given drugs

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Domestic Tigers are also non viable to re introduced into the wild because of poachers. Call it what you will but domestic Tigers should be seen as a stop gap against extinction and treated accordingly. I will agree absolutely that they should not be pets or curiosities because that is not their purpose.

[@pyrovania]

There was a genetic study of domestic tigers (or rather, generic American circus tiger descendants in captivity) and it was found that some of them were pure Siberian or pure Bengal (and not white) so those individuals could be useful in a breeding program. Most of them are Bengal-Siberian mutts.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@pyrovania I don't doubt that. My main concern is the danger posed by poachers and factory farmers.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@LagiNaLangAko23 That would depend on the animal. For a wild tiger, that purpose is obvious as it is the Apex predator of its natural habitat. Domesticated Tigers on the other hand, are poor predators. They're not so great at killing efficiently which is why mallings by domesticated big cats tend to be far more greusome. They literally don't know how to kill people quickly. They don't know how to hunt because they're being fed. It could be said that many domesticated animals lack purpose.

[@LindaC616]

@@pyrovania And as this video says, throw in the Malays and the ligets, and it's even more fun

[@LucknowCreator369]

Every time when I see these magnificent animals in captivity,I felt extremely sorry and sad for them. I have seen these animals roaming in the Jungles of the Tarai region of the U.P, India, and can see in my imagination their beauty and grandeur whenever I wish to relive with them.

[@failtolawl]

this 10 minute video spent more time on tiger conservation then the entire documentary series.

[@bendizer04]

Thank you for asking the right questions. Watching that documentary on Netflix was grueling and depressing. Everyone in that show deserves to be behind bars and we should not allow private ownership of these beautiful creatures.

[@gaylebaker8419]

That's why Big Cat Rescue promotes the Big Cat Public Safety Act. Contact your Representative and Senators and ask them to support it.

[@dylansimpson7831]

Really hope more people see this. I've seen a lot of people on the internet thinking tigers make good pets and supporting the industry after watching tiger king

[@jasminewilliams1673]

I love how Carol baskin is so hated but she actually brought up some of these points talking about taking in the tigers only for the to liv and die in captivity

[@SeymourDisapproves]

"Animals that have never lived in the wild don't know how to behave in the wild." *Wow, who'da thunk?*

[@stanley-elmagico]

It's actually correct even lions bred in captivity find it hard adjusting in wild with no regular timed meals

[@charleslaine]

Next we need a show about animal cruelty at rodeos. Same thing, different animals.

[@mitocaf1]

Charles Laine they won’t talk about that, there’s was a channel that was trying to shut the rodeos but didn’t get support ..!!

[@vucrew6096]

Rodeos are just riding legally owned farmed longhorns. Those who want it banned have no idea what happens inside

[@gradientmapabuser9875]

Rodeos?

[@sunshine3914]

Livestock takes a lot less to maintain than your typical 200 lbs. wild animal. What you need to see is what goes on inside the slaughterhouses. Also, they need to expose many of the so-called dog “rescues” that breed & sell dogs.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

It's ashame how people lost focus on the big cats of Tiger King. I mean their story of the industry is in there, but in the end people only talk about the humans. Even though Carol may be "less bad" when it comes to her rescue, there are still issues that remain.

[@rowanwhy267]

Tiger: **slow blinks** No one: Not a soul: Me: **slow blinks back**

[@giovanni5819]

MeliRDub Animates only cat people understand

[@rowanwhy267]

@@giovanni5819 True dat

[@solar0wind]

I'm sad that in the documentary Big Cat Rescue was shown in such a bad light. They educate people about the issue of roadside zoos and are the only hope for many big cats that would otherwise have been killed. Also, the enclosures are much bigger than shown in the documentary.

[@TheWrongBalance]

The most dangerous animal is the human Even if the megalodon and dinosaurus still existed they wouldn’t stand a chance against humans

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

Humanasaurus Rex

[@leomoe433]

The human tribe, yes, but 1 human, even with a spear, is generally not dangerous to animals bigger than wolves

[@wapiti7151]

Ok, and? Nobody argued against that buddy

[@arthurritis9629]

Tru dat brudda

[@markobajramoski5661]

I am just mad at humanity

[@sirice1725]

As I continued eating meat LOL

[@durktank5001]

yeah theres just so many flaws about humanity, countless problems even though we are the smartest organism on this planet.

[@mr.x2567]

Get a gun and shoot as many people who decide to step out of their house.

[@FifaMaestroAdam]

@@sirice1725 tigers eat meat too

[@CoolDrifty]

The wild sucks, they’re better off in captivity

[@technomancer4862]

“Life, Uh, Finds a way” -Ian Malcolm

[@kateajurors8640]

A paper was released not too long ago saying all the different subspecies of tigers they're not really different enough to be different subspecies there are only two subspecies.

[@zenldh]

link me pls.

[@betaz1000]

I told this to ppl.. bred tiger in captivity can't be release because they can't compete in wild life . Releasing them is like suicide.. they comfy in captivity..

[@zenldh]

Exactly, those who screamed they should be free bcs they should be able to seek for food is just a PETA level human. Survival isnt just about getting food. Lets say they arent be poached they will be killed by their competitions especially if released just like that without knowing which animals owned the area.

[@kingabalos]

zen0524 They can’t catch prey, and wild tigers will absolutely slaughter them

[@zenldh]

@@kingabalos exactly, sadly a lot of people think that survival in the wild is just about the capability of hunting. look at our strays cats and dogs for example, if it is a murder-suicide for domesticated ones to be released in the street, why it isnt the same for tigers and lions.

[@supriya55]

how can netflix promote that sensationalist docu so hard?! exploiting animal abuse

[@MuraCasardis]

Not to mention they framed Big Cat Rescue as villains and now a bunch of ignorant Netflix watchers are flooding the channel to dislike and more. They have no idea what BCR is about, all the things they've done over the years (the many rescues they did, the amount of money they put just to give medical treatment for sick senior big cats, and more). It's really sad and disheartening, but also so typical of these people to be morons.

[@nicholasbarchak6860]

@@MuraCasardis bcrwatch.com Juan Garcia

[@ElanaVital83]

@@MuraCasardis BCR are just as much of a problem as the rest.

[@gaylebaker8419]

@@ElanaVital83 Get off of your silly, ignorant personal kick.

[@gaylebaker8419]

Money. That's all. Pure greed.

[@madtingz2288]

So when people say “put them back in the wild” that would technically be cruel?

[@anafoshort]

Goodlies yeah pretty much They wouldn’t be able to survive

[@anafoshort]

Goodlies yeah pretty much They wouldn’t be able to survive

[@parthabiswas7399]

Wild Animals Need To Be In Wild Surrounding . Please Care & Respect Them ..

[@otomackena7610]

5:12 answer is canned hunting. He lost a good opportunity to raise awareness about canned hunting and trophy hunting. Most of these cubs in petting zoo when useless are sold for canned hunting, killed for traditional Chinese medicine, fur etc..

[@chris57035]

It’s important to point out that all over their media and website and videos, Big Cat Rescue says this exact thing over and over and over. They’ve pushed actively for the legislation Dr. Goodrich speaks of to make private ownership of big cats illegal. They’re an ally of conservationists and were grossly misrepresented in that trashy reality show masquerading as a documentary.

[@dahliam77]

^

[@pyrovania]

Big Cat Rescue also pretends that they are the only decent sanctuary out there. They are not. Nor are they an accredited zoo.

[@JoeyKlu]

@@pyrovania Do they pretend that? Where?

[@pyrovania]

@@JoeyKlu I've seen their propaganda. They make a lot of good points but are a little bit too big on accusing everyone of being guilty of severe abuses. Let them become accredited as a zoo first. PETA is the same way. PETA activists released a bunch of lab animals who ended up dead because PETA didn't think about what would happen to them if they just opened the cages.

[@megankull8912]

I don’t think that’s what people were worried about, it’s all about how Carole killed her husband

[@alanbareiro6806]

**expert giving logical arguments why keeping tigers in captivity is a bad idea** Me: WHY ARE YOU PRESSING YOUR FACE TOWARDS A TIGER?! DO YOU WANT TO GET NOMINATED TO THE DARWIN AWARDS?!

[@small_juice_box]

In my opinion, the tiger at the end pacing back in forth gave me chills. It's hard to see what should be a ferocious wild animal have so much fear in its eyes. The roar at the end spooked me as it should for anyone. Tigers are powerful animals which makes it that much more heartbreaking to see them only being kept for someone’s next photo op. Conservations are doing their best but there’s horrible people out there doing the contrary...

[@phaslow4393]

One of the best short videos ever on this issue. Thank you

[@AyAy008]

9:09 *CHONK*

[@mints7349]

Its really funny that the only person fighting this (Carole) was vilified with decade old rumours thay have never held up...She's still fighting for these cats and yet she's getting death threats right now because of a documentary about animal abuse

[@pyrovania]

There are several good sanctuaries that take good care of their cats. It is not entirely a binary situation.

[@777dark]

it is, it's completely not about the treatment (and trust me "good care" is always a mask, big cats arent little pets just like that), it's about the fact that it does basically nothing for tiger conservation. They are indeed basically useless for anything else than "pets" and IF their "instincts" (mostly just a bad mood because of not being in the wild) they attack someone and then bam probably death, it's just bad this is just animal abuse, they need space too, the reason there are no GW sharks in captivity for example is they die, not enough room in any aquarium in the world. they need territory, the wild is not only where they are at their best, need to be, should be and where they are TRULY comfortable.

[@sovietslug8699]

@@777dark The problem with that is there is no wild to return too. That's what bothers me about people who just say put them in the wild. It's not so black and white.

[@failtolawl]

The problem is that most are completely full.

[@777dark]

@@sovietslug8699 Well obviously, I didn't say that either. With these animals it's a lost cause, they have to stay there, it is very quick death in the wild for those animals. (no abilities, may not even know how to find even water, potential diseases not present in captivity and so on)

[@wooiewowwhoowewewe5714]

I know this might be a dumb idea but maybe this year for the charity of choice, MrBeast could go with a charity that relates to helping tigers ( i.e. donating to legit sanctuaries, doing arbor day again but regretting planting trees in regions where tigers live, etc). Judging the results of last year charity, I would say that it could go fairly well.

[@Greystorm1619]

Great video, I wish they had included some of this in the actual documentary

[@cjzanders5430]

@9:17- yeah, there’s definitely some trauma there. Looks like crack or ptsd in the eyes. Poor buddy.

[@rehaan8]

let a guy open his eyes wider every once in a while :(

[@clanof1144]

the same goes for Carole and her organization, its still captivity.

[@Tracymmo]

It's the only solution when the other options are unworkable

[@geebeepman]

I wonder why in this day and age of medical science that people still use the excuse of poaching animals for traditional medicine. I'd get it if these are cheaper alternatives but I doubt they're anything but cheap.

[@UnordinaryCarl]

nice pfp no sleep time

[@LucyHemmings]

Tigers are my favorite animal. I think they’re beautiful creatures and cubs are so cute and adorable but I would never want to keep one as a pet. I understand they’re beautiful wild creatures and it makes me sad that people actually say “I want one.” I honestly haven’t watched the Netflix documentary because I know I’ll get upset, especially since people are saying it didn’t educate or get the point across that it’s wrong.

[@victoriaaconi]

End the abusive cub petting industry by supporting the big cat public safety act

[@LindaC616]

Yes! Go to aldf.org and enter your name and zip code. They will pull up a letter to your state representative, all you have to do is click on "send"

[@victoriaaconi]

@@LindaC616 thanks I really hope that with enough people the abuse of exotic cats all over the world can be stopped

[@zenldh]

@@LindaC616 can you do it if you are foreigners?

[@LindaC616]

@@zenldh No, US voters only :(. My local rep was one of the original cosigners of the bill.

[@Nonstopfilms100]

This guy is telling the 1000% truth wit no sugar coat ...straight to da point wit it

[@cookeh_9195]

Honestly I don’t mind if they are kept in captivity as long as they are looked after properly

[@zenldh]

thank you. a good backed sanctuary will be the best option. while at that, we need law to stricten and even ended private ownership, bad zoos, canned/throphy hunting, cuddle zoos and breeding farm situations. Kevin richardson's sanctuary is a good example of rescued big cats in captivity

[@cookeh_9195]

zen0524 exactly

[@tyronetb3]

Thank yall for this video, I found exactly what I searched for and more!

[@navdhillon7912]

The line about how the money used to run rescue centres would be better used for protecting Tigers in the wild...bravo!

[@gaylebaker8419]

That's why Big Cat Rescue donates to wild animal conservation groups.

[@kaylalivingston8581]

This 10 minute video gave more information about tigers in captivity than the 6 hour documentary.

[@Azulmine]

the documentary was very entertaining but totally failed to focus on the real problem at hand, which is the unethical treatment of big cats in captivity

[@kingmatolo8381]

That was their intention when they started but they found a better story

[@deeslyt]

everybody gangsta until a hurricane destroys the fences and all the tigers get out

[@padraigirvine4850]

Soon there won’t even be a wild for the tigers to return to

[@Itried20takennames]

I actually dropped my 15-year Netflix subscription over this and the “Goop” show, which is also terribly inaccurate.

[@jorgemendez4517]

Wow you really get easily offended

[@justrocketscience3462]

@Vidalion I’m guessing you also cancelled your cable subscription because you couldn’t stand all of the inaccuracies on the Disney channel?

[@caramelcoffees]

don't listen to the other commenters. if a company you pay starts to produce content you don't agree with, there's no need to continue giving them money. in a hypercapitalist society we vote with our dollars!

[@Hahahahaaahaahaa]

@@jorgemendez4517 Congratulations! Your Edgelord status has been confirmed. Please reply with your address to receive your certificate in the mail.

[@LindaC616]

I admire that move

[@mostlyharmlessrc3920]

That's the right message - thanks Wired!

[@dl2839]

No it isn't, people should be allowed to keep their Tigers.

[@ech78928]

David Lieberman But why? More importantly why is it ever a good idea to own something like a Tiger in Captive?

[@leester9487]

9:17 my cat when she wants to go out at 2AM.

[@Chedda3000music]

I think the biggest surprise for me while watching “Tiger King” was how affordable a Tiger cub is. I saw them selling for $2k-$3k, which is cheaper than getting a Bulldog. I always thought it was super expensive to get one but saw them selling these things like nothing. Crazy.

[@E_MZ_]

chedda 3000 yeah I was watching with with a friend and when they mentioned the price he was like “That’s it?!”

[@dl2839]

The real cost is food and shelter, just like it is for Clifford.

[@kitwhitfield7169]

Mind you, bulldogs are a huge genetic mess all of their own...

[@PolarisSGL]

The poaching problem might go away if they bread tigers to have the fur poaching can go way down

[@zenldh]

i think its hard still, unless it tusk like elephant that started to have short or no tusk bcs only the short/no tusk one is survived.

[@gingerbadjie9670]

No. The Chinese has to stop using animal body parts in fake medicine. And stop eating everything that moves.

[@stefan514]

With all the nice cameras everyone has in their pockets these days... How are people still unable to film themselfes without it looking like trash?

[@joecramp2987]

Because it's a live call

[@stefan514]

@@joecramp2987 and as a reporter you aren't able to just do a video call and use your phone to film yourself as well or at least turn on some lights? It's their job. No problem with the expert looking a little rough, but if you play journalist you should at least try not to suck.

[@onkelpappkov2666]

@@stefan514 Is it their job? I would assume lighting and camera issues to be mostly down to the lighting and camera crew. I mean, I'm glad when a journalist digs into a subject matter and asks proper questions rather than copypasting headlines. Sure could do with a little touch-up, I agree, but ehh.

[@stefan514]

@@onkelpappkov2666 as if turning on a light would be rocket science. How low is the bar these days? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dallasguide9433]

tigers look like they'r wearing makeup like seriouslyyyyyyyyy stunning & magestic animals. i feel so sad that they're gravely endangered

[@amanita1964]

Animal exploitation is truly ugly and this case with tigers is truly disgusting.

[@petersmythe6462]

Morbidly curious what would happen if tigers were released into the wild in North America.

[@PassionPno]

They will die because they don't know how to hunt for food. Or they will go up to the streets to humans to ask for food. If the humans got scared and did not give the tigers what they wanted, they might turn violent.

[@YaYa-lj8ln]

The cat at 9:25 made me so sad...

[@nanwijanarko1969]

Yeah... the fur, the pacing, but mostly the eyes. It has a crazed look, as if it's desperate..

[@Lannylog222]

I love that this was all about the real issues! Something together kind both failed to do and failed to inspire in most. Bravo to Wired!

[@YukihyoShiraki]

I wish this video could be added to the documentary so that more people can be educated on this topic. Sadly, most people only care about the dramatization of the conflict between Joe and Carol and being able to discuss the general topic with others to show how they are in the know about this 'hot topic'

[@kvikram19]

This interview is seriously better than Netflix show, which is reality TV masquerading as a documentary. Here, someone actually qualified is speaking on this legitimate issue, and the interviewer is spot on with concise and useful questions.

[@deploy_leroy]

Because Humans.

[@ponyexpress5274]

Cary Clark tigers aren’t native to that area, are they?

[@ponyexpress5274]

Cary Clark no don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t trying to negatively correct u. I think your absolutely correct

[@deploy_leroy]

@Cary Clark nice

[@joshuapegrum7306]

Short answer (they are used to being fed)

[@jewelsymom]

Thank you for such an informative and intelligent look at this terrible part of America. It’s heartbreaking

[@sandraarias424]

9:30 GAVE ME THE CHILLS SO BAD

[@theguardian3431]

I am pretty sure if you released those tigers in the wild, they'll fare quite better than predicted.

[@bjs301]

Into the wild where?

[@theguardian3431]

@@bjs301 yoh mama's bedroom! 😂 I'm kidding. Any natural habitat for tigers.

[@jase123111]

It should be common sense to make it illegal to own tigers and most other dangerous, or endangered wild animals. It would be easy to make a law banning keeping them.

[@roxannedunstanharvey4898]

Was discussing this with the boy friend. It would make more sense to just regulate and license people. Just putting more hoops to jump through should slow the rate of ownerships and breeding

[@Ashcash95]

I need a video like this it answers a lot of questions about tigers and conservation, especially since Tigers are my favorite animals, & big cats being my favorite species. Truly an informative video.

[@andrewchatmon]

Haven't watched yet but I'ma say they wouldn't be able to hunt properly..Those "wild" instincts would be gone.

[@haydengw]

Andrew Chatmon I think you made the good choice of watching something like this first because honestly that show is terrible at focusing on the real issues

[@raisedbynoodles]

That's not even the biggest problem, instincts could develop in some individuals, but the result of spreading those mixed inbred/interbred genes could be catastrophic for the population of each species.

[@tessat338]

It's not just that they don't know how or what to hunt, it's that the mixed breeding makes it difficult to even know what sort of environmental niche that the tiger could even survive in. Private ownership and unregulated breeding of big cats and exotic species is generally a bad idea.

[@zenldh]

it is not just about instinct or food like the others had said here, and actually explained in the video, and I repeat, they are too familiar with human. just like stray and semi feral animals that had already been familiarized human with food, comfort, pet and play, they didnt have the same 'fear' against human. for a lot of animals this 'fear' is what protect them. kevin richardson was asked about why his lions doesnt get released/reintroduced to the wild and his explanation is that it is too dangerous for both human and the animal itself. why? with habitat lose, and competition against prey that might be scarce with their wild counterparts, these animals will run to human. you can see how stray dogs and cats went to human, begging for food. bcs they familiarized themselves that human bring food. This could end up in tragedy. the big cats could attack human, human in return will murder them. take a case a sumatran tiger in Indonesia that entered a residential area and ended up being murdered, disemboweled and poached. and another case where the tigers kill human.

[@professorbutters]

Oh, they interviewed Panthera! Thank God, someone did something sensible. They’re a great organization.

[@jasonknightmagic1]

Still hard to argue that more tigers is bad. With today’s technology there should be a way to use these tigers in captivity for good and find a way to slowly reintroduce them over generations. And slowly remove large fences around preserves. Idk I’m high and I like tigers

[@rp338]

Tiger king SHOULD have focused on the plight of tigers in captivity and in the wild. Instead it focused on the human train wrecks.

[@JoeyKlu]

Thank you for explaining this. =__=

[@rosskardon7195]

Of course, it is extremely dangerous to keep tigers, lions, wolves, bears, primates, and other wild animals as pets. Wild animals are not meant to be pets!

[@tiamelancholyjeoncockity]

Why are humans so selfish 😭💔

[@doraperez5344]

I asked my boyfriend this question yesterday and didn't quite understand.. This video cleared up so much questioning!

[@l.c.7445]

It seems to me that instead of "why captive tigers can't be reintroduced to the wild", the title should have been "why is so difficult to reintroduce tigers to the wild". It doesn't seeem like an impossible task to do it, it's just way more complicated than we think, since it's not just letting them loose.

[@issaphae9659]

them aiming to portray big cat rescue as simply another run-down fraud even though it is an actual sanctuary that doesn’t breed, hurting their funding and PR in the process, really exemplifies how the cats were absolutely NOT the priority of the filmmakers.