Why China Lies About their Military Spending

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[@FORTHEMEMES7]

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[@Anarcho-harambeism]

You should talk about russian issues with electronic technologies. What they call gen 3 is our gen 2.

[@snowness110]

What do you think we need a new battle rifle?

[@BoycottChinaa]

Great topic, public needs to know where those walmart and costco "savings" ended up, as tax paid military budgets blow up..

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

You are deeply intelligent. Love your reports. Honest. Observational. Factual.

[@johnyblamounth9142]

You have forgotten one important piece, no middle men. State owned factories.

[@jamesrushmoore7999]

Good call

[@cslearn3044]

All companies are owned by government, sure its not best i guess but you wont have the situation usa is at

[@banana6837]

yep, they get soooooo much more per dollar than what the USA does on its military

[@BigOrangeMan]

I heard one bolt cost around 30$ or more in US military spendings

[@OlNineToes]

18:25

[@nicholassigmon8101]

“All warfare is based on deception” - some Chinese guy

[@eygs493]

In your hole

[@charleswomack2166]

Sun Tzu? The Art of War?

[@UnfollowYourDreams]

"Warfare is politics with explosives." Some german dude, but later.

[@sativagirl1885]

Kosher Kung-Fu means no warring/no whoring on THE SABBATH!

[@bsmithhammer]

Can confirm that is the philosophy of the dude who made my General Tso's dish the other night.

[@eamoncat]

Boeing: this bag of screws is worth USD 10k. Norinco: I can provide the same thing with USD 10. Boeing: you shameless liar!

[@anthonyk423]

Those screws won’t hold a jet doing Mach 2 fell 😂🤣. It’s a reason China steals military tech from the US and why America carriers and jets are more durable.

[@lomiification]

meanwhile, the actual cost is $0.01 per bag of screws

[@maxhuang2254]

You forgot to account for the cost of that plastic bag. The answer is $1250.

[@anthonyk423]

@ while China puts water in its rockets

[@stacymcmahon453]

Chinese pilot while free-falling from 30,000 feet: You guys think you could buy some of the expensive screws next time?

[@Mike___Kilo]

"When weak, appear to be strong. When strong, appear to be weak." - Sun Tzu

[@sketchygetchey8299]

That’s actually pretty smart!

[@ЂорђеКозић]

That's why the US is boasting about the biggest budget in the world, while the Chinese are shrinking it on paper for the public. Also, one having a majority of private-owned procurers while the other uses state-owned companies amplifies this disparity even more.

[@einfisch3891]

Russia versus China

[@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420]

How the US got Soviet Union to mass produce alot of garbage was by " leaking" and stating that this tank and that airplane and that helicopter was a threat. So we created a bunch of stuff stating it was to counter that Soviet garbage. That's how Russia got it's 500x size womp womp by 3 nations 450x smaller. 😂

[@angelaferkel7922]

@@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420tell me you dont have any idea of history without telling me you have no idea about history😂

[@jamicub39]

I've learned how to hide my savings as my own defense budget.

[@Slashhugv2]

Be careful. it turns out the government doesn't count not paying taxes as a defense budget. 😂

[@zackworrell]

@@Slashhugv2 He's talking about his wife

[@thieupham493]

It's only possible if you're a Sovereign Citizen, but the IRS will send their army to raid your bank account.

[@uiopqwerty4151]

Normally you hide your extra "defense budget" from your wife.

[@flash3047]

​@@Slashhugv2I think he means from his wife 😅

[@yong4265]

The story about the China military spending is not transparent is just misinformation. All information you described as missing can actually be found online or on their official website. However, this is not my point. My point is the fact that you missed a huge part of the calculation. The money the US military spends on one aerial carrier can purchase at least four aerial carriers for the Chinese military. The Chinese military is technologically formidable. Wake up man.

[@PatrickDavidson-Scoop]

8:36 - "if it quacks like a duck, and shoots like a soldier... it's probably a soldier" 🦆 Loved this 🤣

[@SirClicks.]

I want you to Google the Devil duck. True story, and I think it adds a layer of humor to your comment.

[@Stealth86651]

Could also be a very well trained and disciplined duck.

[@jackjhmc820]

So when US police have army gear after 911, they should be counted as part of the US army? What kind of logic is that? When they shoot like a soldier, it s probably a soldier? Please avoid applying double standards and raise the US defence budget to make the same comparison. Data from 2006 to 2014 shows that local and state police departments obtained aircraft, helicopters, bayonets, knives, night-vision sniper scopes, tactical armored vehicles or MRAP's, rifles and weapons including grenade launchers, watercraft, and camouflage gear, among other military equipment.

[@AstuteRealm]

I think it's the same situation in both countries. American police are also trained like soldiers

[@joemama.556]

if it quacks like a duck its probably a marine tbh

[@BarfyMan-sh3zf]

“Liar, liar, pants on fire” - Sun Tzu

[@bsmithhammer]

"I get knocked down, but I get up again, and you're never gonna keep me down." - The Art of War

[@sukhi_3]

😂

[@javi1373]

"Well, I won't back down, no I won't back down You can stand me up at the gates of Hell, But I won't back down" -Qin Shi Huang

[@allenpollack3514]

You can plan a pretty picnic, but you can't predict the weather. Chairman Meow

[@soluna2252]

"Your soul belongs to me!" -Shang Tsung

[@Zortoili]

I don’t know about the PLAs capabilities but I know as a white drunk foreigner wandering around the streets of Beijing a few years ago, they are nice and friendly even if we don’t understand each other that well. I say no to war, yes to hugs and kisses.

[@雷恩]

在中国街头喝醉是完全没问题的伙计

[@balckston]

Boeing Lockheed doesn't like you, you knowing too much.

[@IslamistSocialist371]

people's are naturally friendly to each other . The Governments however...... Well

[@StephenYoung1379]

it's always about the US government propaganda machine against whom. Previously it was mainly about the USSR then Russia, but now it has been switched to China. Next, it will be India if they ever got strong enough to threaten US supremacy in the global state.

[@Zortoili]

@@IslamistSocialist371 but governments are people too, isn’t it?

[@mikelittle5250]

The U.S already know. The closer figure to China's defense budget is more like 700b-800b, not 230b. This may be news to many, but not our gov't

[@samsonsoturian6013]

Liar.

[@ТарасМакаренко-ф3ш]

Well, Beijing Biden is chinese agent, so i think he is definitely known this.

[@Mike___Kilo]

China also doesn't have to spend as much on R&D. It just steals the tech from us.

[@User-gd5un]

@@samsonsoturian6013 Terrorist.

[@MingYang-d8s]

Why even stop at 700 billion you ignorant liar. 😂

[@soonfoongloke4223]

logical analysis. when US has the highest per capital healthcare expenditure among OEDC countries, yet has an declining life expectancy. US life expectancy is now lower then China. Base on the same logic, we can say that many of these money did not go into healthcare, but went into the pockets of corporate executives, lobbies and campaign fund which will shape policies benefit the donors.. people are the suckers.

[@andrewlim7751]

Imagine the CEO of UHC just got gunned down due to massive denials for massive profits .....and the dude so proud. 😂😂😂

[@gunlover92]

funny how you bring up health care. last i check americans wernt eating dirty ass bats and dogs and mericans actually have homes where they can lay out flat. not some closet lol and also building arnt crumbling while people sleep inside but ya chinas so great haha also forgot at least americans have a decent life while china treats everyone as slaves, oh and i can critisize my gov without loosing credits

[@buddermonger2000]

That doesn't mean a lot given that military health is governed by the VA and not related to any of the points discussed

[@kith00000]

At least someone gets to live well..

[@AllistairNeil]

That's a lie. USA has a life expectancy a whole two percentiles higher than China's, 79 compared to 77. Hong Kong and Macau both score higher than 80 but these are marginal. And it's OECD not OEDC, you kook!😂😅😂

[@popularpower9178]

A fully functional central government that is independent from interest groups + The largest manufacturing sections + 100% completed supplies chain = the lowest cost for products

[@HideBuz]

Don't forget their fishing boat fleet in the pacific comprising of 14,000 giant fisher boats equipped with reinforced military ramps for heavy vehicles.

[@DruidTimer]

Add some for the ongoing program of "Unrestricted Warfare", that's a probably a pretty steep expenditure. How much do they spend on just pumping fentanyl into the U.S., and other Western countries? It would be an interesting expose, to determine how many different Unrestricted Warfare programs there are...

[@loadingnewads]

@@DruidTimerBut actually they might spend like -20 billion dollars a year doing that fentanyl business.

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

@@DruidTimerthey’re not exporting it for free and there’s no evidence it’s state run. If it is, it’s an income not an expense.

[@AstuteRealm]

Even fishing boats are militarized. 😂 That's crazy

[@yiping7193]

Not true some of the ferries have been but fishing boat are not. However China updated Marine Shipping standard about a decade ago some can argue that is excessive and on border for military use.

[@fountainvalley100]

Don’t forget the value of their industrial base. The ability to produce artillery shells and ships is invaluable.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

As is a slave labor force hidden from the prying eyes of 'human rights groups' I imagine all those interned Uyghurs aren't just being _re-educated_ and making license plates out in the western wasteland camps spread around Xinjiang

[@ridhobaihaqi144]

But the accuracy, durability... not so good. In indonesia, 3 or 4 operators from indonesia army was dead because the chinese made AA gun had failed.

[@capboard9331]

@@ridhobaihaqi144So western weapons never failed before?

[@ezs855]

@@ridhobaihaqi144 Indonesia's high-speed rail is also made in China

[@itsmearv07]

Yes if you want junk, buy chinese cheap quality products😂😂😂

[@kollsun2246]

What's the lie? Lie to you to make you spend $5,000 on a coffee cup?😅

[@nyto2541]

Advanced Tactical Coffee Cup

[@GroggyWalrus]

The thing to remember about PPP is that it's not just things being objectively cheaper elsewhere. The PPP normalizes for wages, GDP, etc. It's like saying if a Big Mac costs 1% of your monthly wage in both countries what's that in dollars...

[@bendito999]

it's very sad I can only buy 100 big macs per month no matter where I live

[@sirpieman300]

Thats why he adjusted the money for its equal in $$

[@garyswift9347]

As an example of Chinese purchasing power parody advantage, look at Chinese made rifle scopes. Their quality is only a little less than US made scopes, but the prices are sometimes 90% less. The difference between Chinese and US scopes in combat is probably insignificant, but if more soldiers have them, then that's a force multiplier. Demolition Ranch got a Vortex Diamondback scope on Temu for around $80, and it was a real Vortex.

[@dcc70]

The PLA shopped like a billionaire

[@bagira1989]

​@@dcc70I hate everything about temu marketing

[@anon2034]

THIS

[@donaldlee8249]

And apply that to everything from rifle ammo to fighter jets, it’s a huge difference. And the biggest difference is wages.

[@GodDragonLich]

Russians have scopes and they are being popped like pimples by drones.

[@lwty]

This is more like excuses that the military industrial complex of the US could not spend the budget efficiently. We know that there are still many problems in Chinese military, including corruption. But they could still deliver, at least more efficiently than the US.

[@cubed0724]

Deliver subs that sink, missiles that don't fire properly, or brand new carriers that don't even compare to the US nimitz class carrier. China delivers a lot of quantity that doesn't work very good. US military equipment works and is much higher quality. When it comes to war, the nations who can field the most effective military hardware will be the winner. If China really spends 650 billion on their military, nobody is that impressed, they should get a refund lol.

[@leonzarc4345]

I can't help laughing when Americans talk about military corruption in other countries. U.S. military accounts show $90,000 for a bag of screws, thousands of dollars for a coffee cup, millions of dollars for six goats. Several times during his first term, Trump sent financial personnel to verify the financial status of troops in Afghanistan, but they all died under mysterious circumstances.

[@victorxu2829]

US Army is perfect, no corruption, no problem at all

[@雷恩]

哈哈哈，一包纽扣60000$😂😂😂

[@buddermonger2000]

That's not quite what it is. It's very simple: the stated budget just isn't what people think it is. People think the budget is equipment. That's wrong. It's things like food, soldier pay, and medical care. This means that the actual defense budget going towards the true "defense" is less than expected. The government procurement function in the US is what causes the problems we see, not the companies themselves.

[@martindice5424]

There’s an Aussie bloke who does this sort of thing - Perun - Prince of The Defence Economics Power Point!

[@phann860]

Perun is priceless, the most enjoyable and informative power point on You Tube.

[@epeeypen]

i watch him too, hes pretty good.

[@zalgothedestroyer9432]

Bruh I love Perun! You should collab! Love my Monday PowerPoint briefing

[@ZetaMoolah]

I suggested his videos to my old prof and now he uses Perun as an example on how to do a brief

[@KellAnderson]

He uad a great video on this subject, too! Its a great watch for anyone who wants a deeper dive into the subject+

[@mcs131313]

With any state controlled industry or public private partnership that also sells to other parties, it’s very hard to calculate actual spend, even without any intent to mislead. Any profits from exports might be netted out or otherwise distort the notional cost to the government of its own military. Additionally the raw cost ignores the opportunity cost / cost of capital. (E.g. investors in Lockheed Martin demand a rate of return to invest there verse elsewhere. If a gov is providing the capex, they are functioning as investors in addition to customers, and also have a hypothetical opportunity cost of tying up capital there vs. somewhere).

[@zee-fr5kw]

That also means a worst product.

[@mcs131313]

@@zee-fr5kw No it doesn’t. It means worse quality for a given price point. But you can always pay up and over engineer something. It’s just not going to be efficient without competition / any actual checks and balances.

[@jackyjia41]

You can apply the exact same logic to US military spending as well. If you do that then the US military spending becomes 1.5 trillion dollars.

[@garethdavies7450]

And here in the UK we are cutting capabilities to the point where the services are here in name alone 😔

[@bsmithhammer]

Much of the West is woefully unprepared for what is likely coming. That said, I'll still put my money on the rapid ramp-up and innovation capabilities of free-market societies over autocratic ones. The track record speaks for itself.

[@forrestsory1893]

That comment makes me wonder about what is really in those UK aid packages to the Ukraine.

[@damianketcham]

Pretty sure you won’t need the military anyway. England has already been conquered by immigration. If your lucky, the Russians will invade and possibly give you a reset but why invade a country that is conquering itself.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

​@@bsmithhammerNaive thinking and stupidly relying on the USA for protection

[@WilliamLaurenson]

Don't you guys have other things to worry about like rampant knife crime in major cities and the fact that the native white British population is slowly diminishing and going extinct? I would worry more about internal threats than external ones like the pariah state that is Russia.

[@johna.zoidberg3049]

China basically doing the equivalent of Minecraft offscreen resources mining. 😂

[@BeamMonsterZeus]

I don't think that's a thing in Minecraft, outside of mods. That is characteristically RuneScape, though.

[@CaptinLongdong1]

This channel has come a long way. It has evolved into something great. Don't ever quit.

[@big_bird8597]

Yea a propaganda network to justify raising US budget

[@billygoatgruff3536]

So great that their citizens are jumping the Mexican boarder to get into the US?

[@dennisrichards7994]

What? propaganda !!!

[@dennisrichards7994]

@@billygoatgruff3536 Crap !!!

[@pmpowalisz]

@@big_bird8597he literally mentioned that very agenda in this video. There IS a difference between informative education and blatant propaganda you know!

[@hfdole]

Here's a PPP ratio for you: I bought a one liter bottle of beer in China today for $1. In the USA that'd be more like $4.75.

[@huas5350]

In China, the uniform price of a 500ml bottle of Coca-Cola is 3 rmb, which is about 0.4 USD

[@wenluo6617]

I am Chinese. It is expensive for you. China’s most famous Tsingtao beer 500ML costs 4 RMB and 0.5 US dollars.

[@hfdole]

@@wenluo6617 Yesterday in Nansha I got three bottles of local beer (not Tsingtao) for 16RMB. I guess two were 5 and one was 6. But, yes, less than $1/bottle.

[@dongdongchai9617]

@@huas5350这个是最低档的啤酒啊！你要以啤酒均价来算吧！

[@zmanhuber6924]

It's so much cheaper to live in China RELATIVE to income today than in US. This video was salty CIA-paid propaganda

[@conflictedthought1]

Just looking at the new equipment they're currently fielding, you would be stupid to think they could afford all those with their current budget

[@tainechen1634]

Considering China's top of the line 13000 ton large destroy as much as a Constellation-class frigate, or 2 LCS, or 40% of a Burke3, not really.

[@dannyzero692]

They're an emerging power, in 15-20 years those vast stores of equipment would be getting harder and harder to maintain. They can afford those with the budget because they don't have to pay vast amounts of pensions and substantial benefits to servicemen (also they reduced the number of active troops like 60% to save on money for modernization). China is clearly trying to transform away from Soviet-style large land army to something akin to the US, a smaller well-equipped and professional army with heft support assets. The fact that they allowed themselves to lose in their own exercises now meant that they are genuinely trying to be better.

[@MrRjizz]

​@@dannyzero692 "China is clearly trying to transform away from Soviet-style large land army to something akin to the US, a smaller well-equipped and professional army with heft support assets." this statement doesn't even describe the US stockpiles correctly and then to expand to to China is a crazy statement, most countries will be going to much larger stockpiles given the lessons learned from Ukraine

[@intellectualcucumber]

What equipment are you referring to? It's not that impressive... seeing their current equipment, their budget makes complete sense. Anything the Chinese have produced, the Americans have already produced twice or thrice as better.

[@Amidat]

Do you believe the US still has the biggest economy?

[@alyvarin1106]

My only question is: if China did all that, why cloud not the US?

[@alexnderrrthewoke4479]

Us spends 800 in toilet seats and other bs but hey china bad

[@tainechen1634]

The answer is US does it too. Nuclear weapons budget belong to the department of energy, air national guard with F15s, those are unimaginable in China.

[@yjw3734]

The United States wins on the Internet every day. As long as I win mentally, I will be happy today.

[@anotherbacklog]

The Switchblade loitering ammunition costs $53,000 per unit, the Rogue 1 kamikaze drone costs $94,000 each. I don’t think you can attribute this to PPP or buying power.

[@mrvwbug4423]

And the loitering munitions that Ukraine builds themselves cost about $600 per unit. A Shahed drone costs about $20k

[@alexberkowitz5897]

Brother, when the heat is on, and gen z starts dying, congress is going to force the contractors to lower the prices, and the industry is probably going to comply willingly. We’ll get our $600 dollar switchblades……when we launch the second wave to reclaim Taiwan

[@AA-xs8mv]

​@@mrvwbug4423the shahed drone actually costs $10,000 but iran sells it to Russia for about $20,000.

[@andrewlim7751]

And the Ukrainians shelved the Switchblades for the cheapo user friendly DJI. 😂😂

[@andrewlim7751]

The PLA do have effective coffee mug that cost 50 cents instead of usd1,200. 😂😂😂

[@ThisBloke760]

Why do you call US military spending as defence? They do little actually defending the actual USA. More like defending business interests.

[@andrew3203]

If the USA were spending 800 billion only on defense (like walls and bunkers). You could build a wall 100 meters tall and 10 meters wide, with towers every 10 meters along the South border with Mexico. And every year, you could build another wall. In 4 years, you can have walls along the Canada border, the Atlantic and the Pacific coasts, and let nobody in, ever. Or out.

[@EpochNewsUS]

Interesting analysis of China's defense spending complexities. It raises valid points about transparency and different accounting methods. Definitely worth considering in the broader geopolitical context.

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[@Jouhatsu-oi5qg]

Amen.

[@robandcheryls]

Thanks!

[@angryoliver]

Greta video! Very interesting! I’ve been making the point to people for a while that China is likely spending a lot than what they say and have a much greater purchasing power! One thing I would add, in a direct response to something you said. It was widely thought China was a decade behind the US in chip production and it was recently found that they’re roughly only 2-3 years behind. So I wouldn’t automatically assume that the Chinese equipment is hugely far behind. Just my two cents. Great video though!! 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@MrSneakyGunz]

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[@arsan9933]

Bravo brother.... Excellent podcast. You provide a fresh viewpoint. I'm new to Tack and Purpose, but I'm quickly becoming a big fan. Pls keep that sharp mind and good humor. The info you are providing is cherished by a lot of us who don't feel we can trust any media platform. I killed my TV years ago. Thankyou for helping me hold out hope that not everything is deepfakes and fake news. God bless you

[@zericle1]

Be careful reading KZbin comments. Whenever China is mentioned in any KZbin video, bots flood them trying to skew what you think. Just a heads up. Hope all is well.

[@voswouter87]

"we like to be transparent", except the Pentagon regularly cannot 'find' trillions of dollars.

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

This has been something few people understand and fewer seem to talk about, thank you for pushing this more to the forefront to a wider audience.

[@yanhantang8417]

对于一个大国来说，藏国防预算并不像藏私房钱那么简单，尽管据西方媒体描述“中国军队有着严重的腐败”，至少9万美元买一小袋零件大概率还是没有的，采购供应链上更短，部队伙食的标准是按成本价计算，中间商层层转包抽成很少

[@zealotce]

主要还是强大的民用部门可以协助军队用更低的成本获取同样的产品，但是除了价格之外更重要的还有产能（工时）。 金融也太容易赚钱了，谁还愿意辛苦上产线呢。 另外史密斯专员这种大家都拿一点，流程损耗太高了，没法玩

[@1Gefaehrte]

Effizens wird schon lange im Westen vernachlässigt. Menschenresourcen werden häufig ignoriert, künstliche Intelligenz wird um jeden Preis eingesetzt. Der Kapitalismus kolabiert wenn die Schere zwischen Reich und Arm zu weit auseinander geht und Menschen anfangen zu hungern. In den USA haben sie keine Krankenversicherung für alle Menschen und freuen sich über Platz 1 bei den Militärausgaben. Die UDSSR ist zusammen gebrochen weil sie zu viel Kapital in die Rüstung gesteckt wurde. Liebe Grüße an die freundlichen Menschen in China aus Deutschland

[@rolandeyezz]

The Pentagon failed another audit, but u're here questioning China's budget?😂

[@philipcalderone8092]

At 1.39 that lil 2 seat geryocopter on the back of a pickup truck looks like a carnival ride

[@JamesDenison-j6y]

Lmao! When I seen that, I instantly thought how dumb it looked.

[@relishcakes4525]

I couldn't imagine being in one of those. In a non combat situation looks neat but I wouldn't want to be in there during combat.

[@Spratthoken]

Missed them! What are they even for? Today we have drones for scouting, looks like a death trap

[@nyto2541]

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[@bobh4003]

It’s not that China’s military budget is high, but that the profit margins on contracts for American arms manufacturers are too high.😂

[@hng4079]

😅😅😅 typical American mindset when someone does better then them either they are cheating or lying

[@rdrxpzz4022]

U realise china specfically copies american technology and everything?💀if u really think china is way better lol think twice as without USA to copy they are worth none🤣🤣🤣

[@tungzauzage977]

Bring it on ccp bot, I'd say those chinese pilots will sell those million dollar jets they fly as soon as an American waves a c note in front of them.

[@Muschelschubs3r]

The Chinese ARE cheating. That is a fact.

[@Leed831100]

This channel either says Chinese military is too weak or claims Chinese military is a threat, what a clown.

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[@gwsheipang]

Regular chinese soldiers are almost like volunteers, they only serve in the army 2 or 3 years then their military experience helps them land a better job afterwards.

[@stc2828]

China is cheating military budget by spending 9$ for a bag of screws instead of 90000$ 🤣

[@irispettson]

Defense? More like offense.

[@bachhongtran]

More like kidnapping.

[@complex3297]

The greatest defense is a good offense I guess

[@Herbit-k4j]

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[@wrestlinganime4life288]

Then what's USA excuse?Yall got two large ocean as your main defense

[@CHMichael]

That's actually a good question. Looking at the type of weapons, we are the ones with the first strike arsenal , which is really strange pretending to be the good guys

[@annehersey9895]

I don’t think China spends nearly as much on R n D as the US, doesn’t have any red tape if the government wants it and labor is so cheap plus for non essential parts or jobs China uses slaves so labor is free. As for the Internal Police, remember that the CCP is MUCH more worried about the energy within than any external threat!

[@jetli740]

slave labour can build military equipment? really? stop whatever you smoking

[@henglee3127]

China has no need to hide its military spending. The reason why China's military spending is less than that of the US but it can equip more new equipment is that the Chinese military is not as corrupt as the US, and because the purchasing power of the RMB is much stronger than that of the US. At the same time, because China is a manufacturing powerhouse, the entire industrial chain makes the cost of weapon manufacturing probably only one-fifth to one-tenth of that of the US.

[@rtyrsson]

I agree 100%! I've been saying for years that just purchasing parity alone makes a huge difference in spending, as well as soldier pay and benefits. You present an entire new set of circumstances that I hadn't thought of. Very nice work! Oh... and yes, vaping is good for you. 🤣

[@Amidat]

it also means China is a much bigger economy than the US

[@呃呃嗯霸气-b6t]

不，我们很穷，甚至家里买不起车，我们的武器都是模型，你看到的一切都是假的

[@TheRealSoldatmesteren]

$108 a month!? That is insane. In Denmark in 2007 as a soldier in basic training i got ~$1550 with taxes paid for.

[@tainechen1634]

In US military is a career, you are supposed to be paid. But in China, it's an honor, you aren't supposed to be paid. When I was young it's 12.5 dollars instead of 108, and people need to bribe their way into the military to become a common soldier. Rise of pay is mostly because China wants college graduates in the military, in fact, 50% of the total manpower if I am not mistaken.

[@Fit_soldier]

@@tainechen1634how do I become a Chinese citizen and join their army

[@donaldlee8249]

@@Fit_soldierborn as a Chinese citizen

[@玮丁-f5h]

But you'll get a $25,000 placement fee when you retire. (After three years of service)

[@玮丁-f5h]

In the first three years of the army is a compulsory soldier, is an honor, no salary, the money is a subsidy. Only few people will join the army for the money, it is an honor to join the army, some people would bribe to join the army in previous years.

[@K1pp3rs]

If only the pentagon is as aware of their own budget.

[@robertwang7825]

You totally missing the point. 1. Mass production in China is very cheap 2. All these SOE don’t pay for the land 3. Electricity would be at very low prices 4. Bank loans would bear almost zero interest since all banks are govt owned 5. Materials like steel , antimony etc. will be provided at costs 6. It’s a top priority govt. project which means all resources will be provided ASAP means no delays. At the end it means if China spends 100B , US will need to spend 1T to match that. This is so obvious. US will def lose in an arms race with China , they are the biggest industrial power in the world bigger than the next 9 combined ! Steel, shipbuilding, high speed trains , subways, EVs , drones, solar concrete, infrastructure etc. And now commercial and military planes , space , satellites, 6G etc.

[@eyrum33]

You are mostly right, but exaggerated the facts.😂

[@robertwang7825]

@ It’s not exaggeration at all , I have lived in China for more than 20 yrs. and was doing business here. I know the cost structures well, you have to understand the govt. controls many parts of the economy - land , electricity, banking , communications, steel, food prices, public transport, logistics, etc. Defence do not pay any premium.

[@whatswhite110]

​​@@robertwang7825你还在中国生活20几年？？白活了。大把的私人企业代工军工零部件，又不是所有零部件都是重要的，价格比市场价要高。怎么可能所有环节0溢价，动动脑子。

[@kaylekutkind]

Perfectly respectful comment with truth.

[@zealotce]

@@robertwang7825其实直接就按照军队的采购费用来对比也很明显。按照购买力来讲，军舰层面美国星座级护卫舰首舰的采购费用是16亿美元，而同级别的052D是35亿人民币左右，也就是中美海军军舰来说购买力对比是1:2，而如果换到空军来说F35和歼20则基本都是1亿美元和7亿人民币左右，至于陆军就不对比了（US army 在我眼里完全没法和PLA陆军对比）。 其实除了价格之外，更大的问题在于去工业化后的美国人生产能力极度孱弱，大型舰艇例如055可以一次性开工8艘，每年下水舰艇总吨位是好几倍于美军。歼20预计已经生产了200架到300架，接下来还有高低搭配的歼35…. 陆军呢，卡车炮没有，导弹工业更是稀烂，炮弹产量别说和中国比，整个北约加起来都不够俄罗斯人一根毛，坦克产量，无人机产量，算了，不说了。😂 如果我是美国人我都很绝望

[@iggvec5769]

Bro you don't even know, we absolutely love you. You're a solid character, no BS, no lies, pretty rare these days. Thank you for that 🤜🤛👌

[@MitchellLee-ej8kd]

Entertaining as hell too

[@AstuteRealm]

Many assumptions though and a little bias

[@kolviczd6885]

No LIES?? 😂

[@YSKWatch]

either you are in 1 team of the video producer or you are too naive.

[@MrLiaojerry]

It's not about the number of budget. It's more about the spending efficiency. If you have 800 oversea bases, and spent $70K on a bag of bolts and nuts, $1K coffee mug and even $1K a toilet seat, your $800B spending but with much fewer output is understandable.

[@busterbeagle2167]

I like the corner you've added to your head Cap!!

[@Taskandpurpose]

thanks I'm trying out the new styleeess : p

[@busterbeagle2167]

@@Taskandpurpose Well done sir.

[@busterbeagle2167]

@@TaskandpurposeI love this channel.

[@jackreacher.]

... code ....

[@djzrobzombie2813]

His mom did it

[@Tyrs_Finox]

Really good analysis, this needs to be more widely known as it informs our judgement of those criticizing the U.S. defense budget and those depending on it. The U.S. budget simply isn't as big as it looks and on it's own isn't enough to ensure global security. China is comparable due to numbers alone, and the only thing that ameliorates that conclusion is the hard to measure factors or quality, morale, motivation and determination... counting on those factors didn't serve France very well in 1940.

[@josephsalomone]

While looking at the guy's name in the script, Mouth: "I won't say his name for safety reasons." Brain: "I have no idea how to pronounce that."

[@vladimircurkoski1455]

That Chinese soldier which is payed way less doesn't have to spend money on uniform, food or in that matter anything

[@cryptohornbill9658]

You are so stupid to believe China can compromise their military standards

[@-Ysi-]

Example. People on West Philippine Sea, they employ militia / soldiers to the tune of $10/day just to live in the island versus to the U.S employing soldiers to deploy international at $40/hour. Its a 98% less payment / salary

[@neonpowar3766]

Man did not pass 2nd grade pass

[@LiesTerminator4]

No such sea as west pilipines sea

[@Abyss-Will]

Reasons to inflate budget: Deter your enemies from attacking you or your interests by making you look bigger. Reasons to downplay you budget: keep the public calm, they will get angry if they knew how much of their taxes are going to the military instead of improving their life quality. Keep your enemies calm and prevent them from overspending on their militaries thus giving you an advantage if you initiate an armed conflict.

[@LobyLiang]

不，不，不，我是中国人。中国的国防预算太少了，无法阻止美国人天天派军舰和飞机在我们国境侦查和威胁我们。

[@rowyerboat1]

The Big Mac is the universal purchasing power measurement….how many Big Macs can YOU buy?

[@thieupham493]

Actually, a look at prostitute prices are much more accurate, your wife may not accept your research though.

[@少康战情妇]

可笑的是1949年前民主中国向美国寻求援助对抗共产党，美国用了5年时间援助了民主中国2亿美元。杜鲁门觉得美国人花费的太多了，1950年朝鲜战争美国第一次吃到了苦果，越南战争美国人吃到了第二次苦果，现在是第三次。正如麦克阿瑟说的那样美国与自由世界将为杜鲁门，马歇尔1945-1949年愚蠢的中国政策永远流血，未来的美国人将被迫在进行一次世界大战，而这一切本可避免。

[@梅花MH]

Is Big Mac quality the same everywhere?

[@LtZetarn]

When you found out that even China's fishery industry are also part of China PLA, you knew this shit is REAL. context :: all of fishing boat that china use around south china sea are built from Army's dock and use the same up-armored design and the fisherman will act like militia in case they need to be sent to harrass filipino fishing ship or even filipino navy itself at time.

[@borismedovar9968]

Don't ever let them see you coming. Keep yourself small, innocuous. Be the little guy...

[@727sky]

I doubt the Chinese pay $500 for a military hammer or $14,000 for an aircraft coffee maker !

[@theantchannel5477]

You forgot a few important points: First, we must take into account that china built some parks for old people to practice tai chi. They have hundreds of millions old people and, evidently, those kungfu skills could be used in a war scenario against us, becoming this way the largest army in the galaxy. Second, what about all those millions massage parlors in china? They are sneakily used with both civilian and military purposes by giving their army an edge through affordable full-body oil massages to their soldiers. Third, what about the billions of chopsticks they have in china? Those can clearly be used to poke the eyes of our soldiers! All of this should be in their military budget too. In total, taking these points into account, I estimate China's budget could be around 651 mega-godzillion-super-dollars. Approximately.

[@zericle1]

Trying to downplay his point isn't going to work. Just makes you look like you have an agenda. Who would devote a whole paragraph to defend the Chinese government? Oh I know, the Chinese government.

[@cOOLray13]

Aside from all the great defense analysis, you have been hitting it with all your jokes!! I love your content.

[@ghostface6947]

Slav Cappy isn't real he can't hurt you. Slav Cappy: 0:01

[@jrkastl]

I live for these videos.

[@aninoutski]

get some help

[@lockednloaded9748]

I've watched economics videos before but you're the only one who's able to explain what purchasing power parity

[@Vaioplayer88]

Imagine your job is to defend against any and all types of threats that all other countries are developing and amassing, then are told you are spending way too much on the defense budget by people who have no idea the scale of the task

[@thieupham493]

Don't insult Elon like that, he's going to send Optimus after you after he finds a copy of Rambo to train them.

[@ihcuwign1707]

The us does overspend its a capitalism system so everything needs to have profit and that must always grow

[@thieupham493]

@@ihcuwign1707 We would save so much money on paper if only we could adopt the Chinese corruption system.

[@Vaioplayer88]

@@thieupham493 lol i mean people in general. Im sure Elon is gonna hack and slash the budget some

[@thecsucihai]

American are getting poorer and we know why. "Congress has passed five bills appropriating $175 billion in response to Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine. While most of this spending is aid going to the government of Ukraine, a large portion is funding other U.S. government activities associated with the war."

[@dengist8172]

- Things are cheaper in developing countries, by A LOT - Same amount of $ buys more in China

[@RynD_YT]

China's military spending is at most 350 Billion. This is because equipment in China costs far less to make in the USA. This means that $350 Billion worth of equipment in China is equivalent to what $600 Billion worth of equipment in the USA.

[@JuanPerez-jg1qk]

those MAGA toliets are expensive for 30k

[@timothychung4811]

I find it amazing that you are such an expert at everything to the detail without LNOWING DI&K ALL.

[@AnotherCriticalKnob]

Listen to how he pronounces "worth" at 4:10 Someone is definitely getting a cut of that military budget for psyops...

[@Tabby_Man_3]

China bot mad. Isn’t KZbin banned for you? Better log off before your social credit score gets lowered 🤣

[@ihatetomatoees]

@@AnotherCriticalKnobschizo

[@enkephalin07]

I believe US's transparency (if it is) regarding their R&D expenditures is intended to be a challenge to rivals. China's opacity can mean so many possibilities, and the only certainty is that they don't want an overt arms race.

[@codyblankenship4891]

Can someone explain to me how he and the American enterprise Institute came to the conclusion that the Chinese budget is 549 billion? I followed the numbers that he reported throughout the video, and when he did the PPP conversion rate for equipment, training and maintenance, and personnel that added up to 549 billion. Then he mentioned that the PAP and Coast guard budget was 304 billion. The military space budget was 21 billion. Military R&D was 45.8 billion. Infrastructure in south China Sea was 1 billion. Procurement was 807 million. And that 45.3% of China’s civilian R&D budget was undisclosed and potentially military. I looked up that budget and it’s 3.3 trillion. 45% of that is 1.5 trillion. And he never mentioned if these estimates were converted for PPP. The total without a PPP conversion is $2.06 trillion and with the conversion it comes out to $5.34 trillion. Both are well above $549 billion.

[@Amidat]

Don't forget that they should also revise China's economy to be much larger too

[@orlock20]

The Chinese aren't spending that much. It's the equivalent. Let's say there are two 500 lb bombs. The U.S. might have $2,000 in materials and $22,000 in total labor. The Chinese bomb has $2,000 worth of materials and $2,000 in labor. The U.S. paid 5 time more than the Chinese on their bomb. If that difference is across the board, China can spend $100 billion to get $600 billion in "equivalent" firepower.

[@AstuteRealm]

​@@AmidatIt's already the largest in GDP PPP terms

[@AZ-hj8ym]

maybe he is the one lying 😂

[@thecsucihai]

House passes $1.6 billion to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas. Need I say more?

[@MrVocalBaby]

"spending" doesn't mean anything, it is what you do with the money you spend that is important. The US is wasting, not spending.

[@zaczane]

Our military has failed several audits. So we definitely hide our spending to an extent too.

[@kevinduperret1910]

"Speak softly and carry a big stick" -Sun Tzu

[@user-xn5oi7lb8c]

As phd in economics i truly appreciate the quality of research. For not-economist to understand the PPP concept AND its limitations AND explain them without mistakes is remarkably hard.

[@BITStudioCode]

blud I can’t believe you are trying to compare Chinese soldier’s pay to American soldiers’ pay. And in units of DOLLARS???? That’s quite literally BARELY CREDIBLE.

[@Alexander-jh4ek]

So are you going to count national guard budgets for the US? We’ve got dozens of mini-militaries with jets and tanks across the states

[@dead-claudia]

this is a valid criticism, especially since they are sometimes deployed as well

[@nogod1737]

Hey, what other mini militaries are there? And jets and tanks, really? That sounds really interesting, I’d love to hear more. Sorry for the questions, I just recently here in my early twenties start to get interested in militaries and all this kinda stuff

[@squidwardo7074]

@@nogod1737 There's some national guard units that have F-35's and B-2 bombers. I think the national guard is federally funded though still

[@Sargon-g9c]

@@squidwardo7074National Guard is federally funded and has been for decades, so it should still count under the total military budget

[@Taskandpurpose]

The US National Guard budget is already included in the defense budget. It’s funded by the department of defense. So, yes.

[@scottmarquardt3575]

it's called the truth with Chinese characteristics, something like newspeak in "1984"

[@Krehtan]

You forgot to add that their entire ferry system doubles as a staging and landing fleet. Something like 180 to 1200 boats if you include mothballed boats.

[@echomande4395]

How much of the chinese military budget is 'spent' on graft and corruption? Also, does the PLA still own factories and are these figured into the defense budget?

[@wellplayed3938]

Have you ever been talked with Chinese person to have this conclusion? I did. 10-15 years ago, it may happen, but now, definitely nono. They have at least 3 layers of assessment for the money spending. The product they sold maybe higher than the market, but the quality is assured, the defective products will be traced to the sales who made the deal, and will be a very serious criminal charge. If you always underestimate your opponent like this, US will be doomed for sure not too long.

[@郭-e7p]

Military enterprises are state-owned enterprises. They are also corporate entities. The procurement of equipment by the military is also a bidding process. The only difference from the United States is that all of China's military enterprises are state-owned. There is no difference with the United States in other aspects. Chinese military enterprises are also integrating military and civilian resources. Except for military enterprises, which must be state-owned, China's military is no different from that of the United States.

[@JenRut-kz9vx]

Hilarious as always.

[@derrickjordan5969]

Shut up you Chinese communist

[@davidc5191]

Just on the basis of labor cost alone, Chines labor is a quarter the cost of U.S. which is why so many companies manufacture in China. Therefore with their lower labor costs, when Chinese manufacture military equipment, if material costs are the same as the U.S., then total cost with labor will be 50-60% in U.S. dollar terms, so their actual budget is about twice what's reported.

[@Spiralz27]

Good work, Chris!

[@ModernProspector]

The US has a black budget too in case you didnt know for some reason.

[@danwelterweight4137]

What are doing spewing out all these truthful facts, logic and reason! Don't you see that you are going to destroy his entire narrative.

[@zericle1]

Whataboutism at it's finest.

[@danwelterweight4137]

@@zericle1 people who complain aboutwhatism when other people call out their BS are narcissistic hypocrites who want standards being used for other people not be applied to them.

[@OhAwe]

@@danwelterweight4137aboutwhatism lmao

[@ryanm7832]

Yo! What was that little open-cockpit, 2-person helicopter thingy?? That looks fun...and dangerous af, so extra fun! :D (dripping w sarcasm, just to be clear...uh...50%)

[@moosemax6346]

First time I'm this early to the video

[@JoannDavi]

Well, we do know that their GDP is inflated, that their debt is understated, that they've stopped reporting youth unemployment, and so on. Money spent secretly on defense now is money they will sorely need in the future for their country and won't have.

[@sukhi_3]

You live in U.S .

[@kz2587]

美国人真的活在你们媒体编造的世界里😂

[@Here_it_is_bro]

​@@sukhi_3of course 😂😂

[@Here_it_is_bro]

Bro is fuming 💀🙏

[@Zarozian]

@@sukhi_3Bro brought into US propaganda lol 😅

[@LuckyM-l2u]

The United States has so many overseas bases, and all of them are funded by local countries to help them maintain their armies. Are the funds paid by those countries included in the U.S. defense budget?

[@vonvomit5666]

You are spot on about the disparity between our defense budget and the Chinese defense budget. And personally I think the USA spends rather poorly when it comes to defense money. I think the US should be spending far more than the 2-3% of GDP for defense and veterans budgets and we need to quit falling for the ruse that we spend far more than the rest of the world. This country ever since the end of WWII has spent and cut so much from our defense budget that today we cannot even maintain the ability to field a force capable of fighting and sustaining a force capable of fighting a multi front armed conflict. Over all our military equipment budget has falling so low that the amount of weapons systems we develop and field are far less than any time since the end of the second world. And people in congress and the pentagon always seem to forget what the US spends for lets say one Abram's tank China can buy about 5-7% more of the same vehicles. And yes our technology is far superior than anything China can field when the amount spent does not even cover in most cases the costs that are adjusted for inflation compared to China. See, it may seem to many in government budgetary committees that we spend way too much in the amount that is thrown into the defense budget they forget that the bang for the buck effect in defense spending is far less that any time in history since WWII. And when it comes down to it the question must be asked how many bullets can we buy to shoot out of one gun to shoot at and destroy the enemy for just one rifle do we have to shoot when the enemy is throwing 10 men for every one bullet at every one of our soldiers compared to 10 enemy soldiers running at ours trying to fight the wars we beg them to enlist and fight for us to begin with.

[@Zarozian]

Well all this depends on how much the Chinese allows us to know lol 😂

[@knoll9812]

The only country to compare with is China. Almost others are outspent

[@DavidNaval]

@@Zarozianalso depends on how much the us government lets us know, for all we know the us could be doing the same thing as china and spending way more then they let on

[@mrvwbug4423]

The US defense budget is saddled with enormous amounts of pork barrel spending, basically "obsolete weapon system A is made in congresscritter Bs district" and there's a lot of expenditure on obsolete stuff just to keep jobs in a specific congressional district. phasing out obsolete equipment alone could save a ton.

[@vonvomit5666]

@@mrvwbug4423 I have to strongly disagree with you. Some of those weapon's systems you say are old and no longer needed in fact either war reserves or equipment waiting for maintenance and refurbishment to bring these systems to modern standards. Now with that being said congress does tag needless bill on the defense budget bill when it comes time to debate and pass the bill. But there is a lot less pork than you think and all the media hype you just said is in those defense bills is not a real problem. The real problem with the defense budget is there are people in congress who think that the defense budget needs to be smaller so they can put the unused money aside and apply it towards social programs like money for illegal immigrants and aid to bogus grants and research studies. That is not to mention federal agencies that need to be reduced in size or outright phased out to existence. When compared to gross GDP people think that the less you spend on defense the less the more you have for needless agencies and social programs. The US military has a ton of old, broken-down equipment that needs modernized and given back to the war fighter pronto. Not tied up in committees being debated on so the money taken out of the budget for Maintenace and broken-down equipment supposedly saved from the defense budget can be used for needless government agencies and bloated social programs. The money that needs to be allocated can be used to lessen backlogged ship maintenance, modifications of aging jet fighters to bring them up to modern standards and tanks being repaired and modernized as well. And we need to be buying more new systems to replace those weapons that are just too old and to keep up with advisory countries new military systems so when we get through with the foolish defense cuts can send our military off to war with the best equipment possible to close with and destroy the enemy.

[@SarahGarcia-mo9ge]

Mind-blowing theory. Cool!

[@robertsilva-zf7cm]

THIS COMMENTATOR IS SOOOO "WISE" AND "INTELLIGENT"

[@JackZT-n5s]

the truth is, you are laying. China do not have much(just 1) overseas military base like the US. and china dont have any war for last 40+ years already. thier military cost is just for keeping this military excist and develop its tech level.

[@jacobsaroh4228]

Why china's is shown their military expenditure to you?

[@GregorClegane402]

I think it's really smart to have a separate "Joint Logistic Support" Force and that it is also represented in the Generals Departments. Logistic is so crucial in any type of conventional warfare.

[@veritasfiles]

The reason we are semi-transparent with our defense budget is because our government is spending other people's money, as we are supposed to be a representative republic. The CCP is the ruler of the Chinese people and they are spending their own money because ultimately everything belongs to the CCP in China. The Chinese have always under reported their spending and we've always under estimated what they are doing. They are not spending more efficiently however. In most cases, because of their top-down approach, they are spending very inefficiently. Based on other examples that we have in places like Russia and North Korea, China is probably spending anywhere from 15% to 30% of their actual budget on corruption. In other words, it takes 15% to 30% of their total outlay just to grease the wheels to make things happen in China's military. Are they spending as much as the U.S.? No one can really tell you that. I think it's very safe to say that they are spending a minimum of $600 billion each year, and the maximum is just an unknown number. They are fielding thousands of aircraft. They are actively procuring aircraft in almost every category. They are having to do more R&D than they've had to do in the past because it is becoming more difficult for them to simply steal tech through simple espionage and/or technology transfers, and they are having to develop rather than just reverse engineer new systems. Most Chinese equipment is not of the quality or sophistication of U.S. equipment. You can see this clearly in the export market where missiles, radars, and various other components of military equipment sold to foreign nations fails to work at a basic level. They don't have the same level of quality control, and because there is such corruption, producers of exported goods are incentivized to save money by cutting corners and using lower quality materials. This doesn't mean that the PLA gets all lower quality equipment, but clearly it does mean that they aren't getting the level of quality that you would find in the West more broadly. China's military is likely a lot like Russia's and North Korea's, as they share a similar top-down approach. China's is probably somewhat better because they spend so much more money on their military, and to their credit, they have tried to adopt some of the structures and leadership styles of the West within their military in order to improve its performance. They are actively seeking advice from Western pilots and participating in training exercises with nations that possess Western equipment and training. They are actively trying to learn how to be better and more effective, but corruption within the ranks hampers their abilities. They have already had multiple purges within the last 2 years, and many of the purges have proved not to solve the problem because the operation by way of corruption is so ingrained, they aren't easily able to change their methods and habits. This also will end up necessitating more funding in the short and long-term, which will likely be hidden and downplayed. I've been talking about this since the late 1990s, and I'm glad someone else is finally covering it in a very public manner. China's hidden military budget has been suggested by many for years, but any kind of open and public comprehensive analysis really hasn't been done or taken seriously to any great degree.

[@zealotce]

兄弟，我只能说有时候你去看中国官方的报道比较好。在信息茧房里是看不到真实的内容的。虽然PLA践行保密就是保打赢的行事方法，但是6000亿美元（占GDP超过 5%）那是只有战争狂才会做的事情，如果我国真这么干了，我建议大家最好祈祷这一定不是真的。