Why China's Spending $70bn to Move Water 2,700 Miles

[@desmondtan4812]

I always find it weird that people with a civilisation of few hundred years judging a civilisation of a few thousand years.

[@anyone1200]

I dont see how Usaas can interfere in China, They dont know enough but has a big mouth. Wait till Russia and China start the Artic Sea Route, just wait what usaas will say,

[@chongdi6140]

They are not judging more like disparaging which they are very good at ,

[@Albion80s]

How can these foreign "experts" miss out on the alleviation of perennial deadly flooding in the South by sending excessive water to the parched North? Are they just jealous? Go build infrastructures in your own country.

[@blcheah2672]

That wasn't a civilization of a few hundred years. It was a barbarism of a few hundred years.

[@jplow1008]

perhaps she should have equated & made a direct comparison between china’s domestic cost benefits of such programs against that of say, usa’s equivalent domestic efforts. that way, a more balanced view would emerge & set for a more meaningful dialogue.

[@紀風雲]

When you are unable to complete these great constructions, you can only try your best to uglify it so as not to show your incompetence!

[@mtm2906]

What you said is so true, they were bad mouth the 3 Gorges before the dam construction. Typical American BS.

[@terrainofthought]

well said.

[@limcheating1]

this isnt the first time China did this, China built the largest Canal in Human history 1500 years ago, for transportation and also, water, so if deceases could spread through the transfer of water, it already happened 1500 years ago

[@yuchuanxi]

The first canal Xuhe in China was constructed 2500 years ago.

[@raylawes8938]

Yes, the grand canal, still the longest man made waterway.

[@exploreandunravel5773]

Tofu Dreg POOHs nonsense , search Google its clear , The oldest known canals were irrigation canals, built in Mesopotamia c. 4000 BC, in what is now Iraq.

[@sumiatisukemi9160]

Not 1500, but as far as warring states period 2500 ago

[@luowen7019]

The electricity consumption of Chinese residents is US$0.08 per kilowatt hour. I am in Suzhou, China. My house is three floors, 380 square meters, and has all kinds of electrical appliances. The monthly electricity bill for a family of three is about US$30, and the water bill is about US$3.

[@kingwing3203]

我一年才用40块钱的水费，电费一个月50人民币

[@thamesshylock5626]

Yes, and the price hasn't changed for 30 years, it's the same price

[@憂鬱臺灣烏龜蕩鞦韆]

@@kingwing3203他家面积大

[@kingwing3203]

@@憂鬱臺灣烏龜蕩鞦韆 我家148平也不小呀

[@憂鬱臺灣烏龜蕩鞦韆]

@@kingwing3203 他不是说他家三楼吗

[@suanjiewtan8936]

China has done this since ancient time. China is looking long term where as Western is always think short term.

[@rickfeng4466]

I would not say always and group the whole west together. Like, after the bombardment of Copanhagen and the comple destruction of the Danish navy by the British in 1807, they planted 90,000 oak tree to rebuilt their navy. And 200 hundred years later in 2007 it was ready to use. That proves western country are capable of long term planning and now Danmark have the wood to rebuilt their navy.

[@exploreandunravel5773]

The oldest known canals were irrigation canals, built in Mesopotamia c. 4000 BC, in what is now Iraq.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

1 million people were ordered to move so that 500 million people in North Can get more access to water And reduce flooding in South .

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

If China were a democracy, development would definitely be hampered for 50 years.

[@DeniSaputta]

Imagine people demonstrate Rejecting development

[@wymmyw8744]

@@DeniSaputta relocation in china means they already have a new neighborhood ready to be occupied.. and most of the time, it's an upgrade compared to their old houses.. connected to the main road, easier access complete with public facilities.. and people don't own land privately in china.. land belongs to the government, the government grant land to people for a period of time.. so that would speed up everything.. no bs, no land disputes, no bs bureaucracy, no bs claims..

[@Johnnydoenyc]

For the greater good. 99.9999999% of Chinese understand this.

[@sunnywu2464]

​@DeniSaputta Do you know they are highly compensated, with a house and a large sum of money for each family? Most of them are satisfied and don't have to work for the rest of their life.

[@ganboonmeng5370]

That is why ..China is progressing ..and the West only talk ... The central plain..of China ..flood every year...they bring the water up North also ease floodind..😅

[@yuanjing2621]

Frostpunk raises my blood pressure

[@jamesl.o.h.6000]

The west not only talks but they spew many lies and propaganda about china.

[@flytolight]

Chinese government take care People's lives instead of Democracy as always.

[@紀風雲]

For a better life, it is not yet time to talk about democracy...

[@peterg0]

There is no democracy on this planet,all are fake!And democracy means low efficiency as well...

[@tigading2177]

The west is all about "dog and pony" show, their regimes are mainly about "feeling" good, not actually about "doing" any good.

[@kingwing3203]

中国有民主，民主集中制。

[@peterg0]

@@kingwing3203 所有管理系統,民主只是其中一環.西方只用民主這一環天天說故事,卻對人民咆哮視而不見!中國制度不是完美,但在過去三十年,已做出比西方好最少一倍至十倍!當然中國制度依然有很多改進空間...

[@goodmoringful]

Well if you care about the Chinese then you have no worry about them. How the hell would you know about the feelings of millions of Chinese.

[@sunnywu2464]

They are highly compensated.

[@joshanderson7358]

Well said. 👏👏👏

[@maquinadesoldarautomatizac9013]

Please treat knowledge scientifically， next time Include Taiwan in your China map, because Taiwan is a province of China. If you go to the united nations website, you will know this.

[@wei3720]

謝謝老外，我是台灣人，我們跟中國只是內戰的兩個勢力，並不是兩個國家，瘋狂的統一國家是中國文化的一部分，早在2000年前行程

[@terrainofthought]

agreed

[@marcelo55869]

They do propaganda. They cannot disobey their masters.

[@andychong5984]

Why so much negative content? This is not balanced, so biased against the project

[@zhaokwong5544]

A day western media doesn't trash China is another day wasted.

[@lancewood1410]

dipping their fingers into the USD1.6bil piggybank to demonize China.

[@igvtec]

This is exactly, what needs to happen in Australian. To drought proof it, There is plenty of water up north.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

Will the master allow the Australian to thrive ?

[@David_Lloyd-Jones]

OMG, you propose to take the last bit of dryness away from the Ozzies?

[@MetaView7]

This is exactly, what needs to happen in the US. To drought proof it, There is plenty of water but their laws prevent the transfer of water between states.

[@ganboonmeng5370]

Instead Australia is spending USD380 billion for Submarine ..which may..be delivered..in 50 years time..😢😂

[@George-k6o9t]

Back in 1938, an Australian Civil Engineer who was responsible for the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Sir John Bradfield, had already worked out a water mitigation system that would diversify the flood waters up north in Queensland down south to drought proof the farming bread basket of the country. Known as The Bradfield Scheme, it was rejected for the usual short sightedness politicians are well-known for - they thought that it was technically not feasible and "too difficult" (yet, the Chinese built their Grand Canal 1500 years earlier with nothing but hand shovels and picks and it remains the longest water mitigation canal in the world today - using primitive equipment), environmental impact uncertainties (as though politicians really care whenever there's some project where they stand to get immediate political gain), and the high costs involved ( but has billions of funds available as always, for armaments like a silly nuclear powered submarine and wars). So, we have The Bradfield Scheme which would have reduced the annual floodings up north and alleviate the droughts in the dry seasons and yet, a nation building proposal was rejected and criticised on the flimsiest of wishy-washy grounds. Without such a scheme, every year, we lose billions from flood damage and crop failures - surely a lesson in "save a penny, lose a pound" - and still continues to be the status quo today. Meanwhile, the politicians are again looking at a proposal of a high speed train between the major Eastern coastal cities - a project that is guaranteed to lose money rather than constructing a water mitigation system that would have immense benefits to the country and save lives (from floods). One really wonders in which way are our political leaders heads screwed on?

[@FrankLeeYing]

They said the same thing about the high-speed railway network and now it’s considered an engineering marvel. They were completely stumped when China built “ghost cities” then stupefied when the city was given a purpose and populated. Simply we’re only seeing a small part of the plan. When it comes to infrastructure, I’d be betting on red.

[@yzy8638]

Ghost city is bs, ofc nothing is perfect, there odd to have failed project But shanghai pudong district was called a ghost city, so thats the weight of such word

[@pbworld7858]

China doing something to help the country and its people. 'but at what cost?'

[@sc-to4uf]

What is the cost of doing nothing?

[@MetaView7]

the cost is on the west. ;-)

[@PhoonBucgeneMY]

Of course the cost of the people freedom. 😂 BBC logic

[@watchitontube]

At what cost you say? It is better than spending 200billions in a war in Ukraine. My respect for the Chinese government. I do not use such words as the authoritarian regime or the dictator Xi. In fact none of the leaders outside the West ever used such words on China. Notice that?

[@FrankLeeYing]

At the cost of not failing its people

[@jimlopez5992]

price of water is very very low? why does she think it needs to be higher?

[@tigading2177]

Because people of the west, are so used to being ripped off by their own regimes and corporations, it is normal for them to pay very high taxes, and prices of ordinary goods and services. They call it "freedom taxes and prices". LMAO!

[@yzy8638]

You know... Capitalism

[@wsmithe2209]

Chinese don't have problem about moving water in their country, the complains come from the people living outside China.

[@tigading2177]

Because in the west, they couldn't do it, too expensive apparently but they have trillions for wars, coups, death, destruction and jan no side.

[@yzy8638]

The entirety of the 3 major river, yellow, pearl and yangtze are all within china, who can complain about that

[@willengel2458]

Chairman Mao said, "If our adversary bitched about what we are doing. then we must be doing the right thing."

[@QuietJugung]

Trust western media to find negativities.

[@blcheah2672]

It's not Western media if it cannot produce propaganda to criticize others.

[@sumyamchi]

Terrible take on China's North-South Water Diversion project which has arguably been one of the most successful large infrastructure projects in the world. Especially the nonsense about satisfying more politically important regions in the north of China at the expense of the south of China??? China's most water scarce, highest population, highest population density provinces are in the north. This analysis is obviously politically biased and likely part of the out of control environment movement.

[@blcheah2672]

They don't even understand that the South is not suffering when it gives up water. The South needs to give up water, because they get excessive rainfall and it needs to be drained asap or else there are floods. Even now, despite decades of hard work, it still often floods in Southern cities. At most the damage has been decreased greatly.

[@bryanlee3337]

This project is massive and can bring more benefits to the north, otherwise, desert keeps growing and growing, and sand storm will relentlessly blows to beijing and other major cities.

[@roro-v3z]

biased video, more than 70 percentage of video is negative content

[@tigading2177]

This is already very good propaganda, most USnUK led prop is 100% negative!

[@kingwing3203]

这样他们就能从美国国会分到16亿美金的一部分

[@gorto1127]

Instead of criticizing China's $70 billion investment in moving water 2,700 miles, perhaps we should consider the U.S. spending, which often prioritizes military actions over improving daily lives. Investing in infrastructure and resources could bring more benefits to people rather than provoking conflict in other countries.

[@UzumakiNaruto_]

While US military spending is excessive, its their armed forces that are helping to keep relative peace and stability in the world. 'The price of liberty is eternal vigilance' and that's what the US military is providing around the globe even if a number of their decisions and actions don't work out the way they want it to.

[@DeniSaputta]

You should also provide the farmer's point of view. about the projects. Just like in south California

[@lancewood1410]

Because they can.

[@AIYOLEH]

i doubt she ever visit China.

[@ck1416]

For an 'engineering' channel video, this videos talks nothing of the engineering of this project at all.

[@humblehouse]

For the 'controversial' Western route (your words), your own map shows that it would be drawing water from the Yangzte River (which is entirely within China). So, I am unsure why you suddenly mention the Mekong and Brahmaputra Rivers. Besides, under international law, China has its rights to the waters of these 2 rivers (as do all those countries downstream which also have their own dams and irrigation projects). The water diversion goes BOTH ways - in some sections, there will be water being diverted from the north to the south (in order to ensure minimum ecological disruption) rivers and water systems to ensure overall balance. So, don't worry too much about the Chinese - after all, China is the only major ancient civilisation which has unbroken history and still surviving (and thriving) in 2024 while the Roman Empire (the last major Western empire) has collapsed more than 1,500 years ago with no comparable replacement till today.

[@Victorchaint]

First of all, that is not your business. Secondly, china is constructing within its own territory. Thirdly, why are you so curious about someone's business?

[@raycuizon8226]

Those water also go downstream to Vietnam and Cambodia. Now their rivers are drying up.

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese is planning to divert Tibetan water from Jarlung TSANGPO to Xin Jiang Yarim desert 🏝️🏝️

[@celine_2084]

why the whole video is being skeptical about this project?? at least being balanced? why would chinese government spent all these efforts for no good? do you think they are stupid enough to not realize those problem when conducting such a huge project? i am sick of "big bad china" narrative.

[@AndrewLyu-fu8wm]

Funny is it that some westerners always think they know better than the Chinese themselves about how things should be!😅

[@blcheah2672]

Westerners always know better than non Westerners. At least, that is their ideology.

[@jacintochua6885]

Souhtern China usually gets more rain and the northern part is usually drier . In order to 0rovide more wster for irrigation and other needs, a msjor water d8versiin project wss needed. The minry spent wss worth it .

[@ppang2689]

Biased arguments. Time wasted here.

[@Voxabonable]

For people incapable of reading Chinese, they'll always say information is not transparent.

[@DannyYeo-kk4km]

Comparing the economic development on these both these 2 countries ' America n China '..the Chinese are so hardworking, working relentlessly..eg..turning waste land eg..desert into agriculture land n improving telecommunications n transport system eg . hi speed train ..the basic needs for mankind. Whereas, America is spending their budget on advancing technology eg..arsenal n space research...lacking some basic needs for their own people.

[@DannyYeo-kk4km]

The sour relationship between these 2 big nations is like comparing the sour relationship between 2 working colleagues..one is quite hardworking n the other is the laid back type...seeking excitement n thrills..eg..war...thrilling to see people got hurt from bombings..

[@kenric1460]

Another western media hit piece.... "But at what cost"😅

[@tomsunuwar6940]

great china ever great in the world🎉🎉

[@1965sarrata]

Brasil did and China also did the same water transfer. What is America waiting to do the same for Las Vegas ?

[@winsonip4447]

It appears that their arguments are in conflict. One expert suggests that China should cultivate crops in the South, while another contends that the relocation project is controversial. Consequently, their conclusion implies that farmers in the North should stop growing crops and depend on the South, which also leaves hundred millions of people in the South to face annual flooding.

[@kamwaichan8048]

All projects have pro' & con' in the long term the project might be useful to China and it might be controversial to others. The Chinese government would surely do their calculations considering the amount of money it will cost in the long term, plus maintenance. Time will tell, as history will carry on 👏👏👏👏👏🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[@Felipe-n3j]

To irrigate the vast dry land in the west….of China.

[@wenling3487]

Whenever you listen to these people talking, you may think they probably have better vision than those who actually runs China. Always reminds of what former Singapore foreign minister talked about Americans, “Americans don’t like Chinese, Americans don’t like Muslims; but some how Americans are in deep love with Chinese Muslims.” lol 😂

[@amimi-ricky]

There's no harm in listening to different opinions, just don't be swayed by them

[@wenling3487]

@ I finished the vid. We Chinese generally train in dialectics: every thing comes with positive consequences and negative consequences, the question is which side outweighs other side. This grand water diversion project is the exactly the very sample for this kind of thinking.

[@maf-k]

Where's the engineering part ?

[@kevinlaw6191]

The projects have been running since 10 years

[@chengjared101]

4:06 The third country shown on animation is Laos, not Cambodia. Though the Mekong River is also flowing through some parts of Cambodia.

[@sittvatthanatham5890]

And they also mislabeled Bangladesh and eastern part of India as Southeast Asian region.

[@basque888]

I clicked because this is an engineering channel and am genuinely interested in such a huge engineering project. But yet you have another "China Expert" from a Washington think-tank, who's academia expertise is International Foreign Relations. She's all too predictable. Down vote from me. 👎

[@leealex3320]

5:52, that is in the south China sea where has nothing to do with your topic about moving water project in China, 5:59 too.

[@jamesmatheson9624]

They are supposed to make artificial mountains and have ice form on top of the mountains to get fresh water when they take this water for one region to another they are depleating freshwater sources and eventually both of the freshwater sources are going to disappear

[@soonpohtay4794]

Another NED sponsored

[@ConradSNIPER]

By increasing water catchment volume, water quantity required can only be provided by rainfall accumulation progressively.

[@WeThErOcKsTaRs]

20% and 1/6 are off by about 3

[@andrewchin2626]

It seems that Thailand gets too much water than is needed as flooding is quite often.

[@gokberkie]

Awesome!!

[@exploreandunravel5773]

The oldest known canals were irrigation canals, built in Mesopotamia c. 4000 BC, in what is now Iraq.

[@bingliu-china]

古代用人工挖掘大运河，现在用机器盾构机，方面多了

[@bob_frazier]

Of course the US should do this too.

[@raycuizon8226]

The Us already did this with the Colorado River. it did a lot of environmental damage downstream all the way to Mexico.

[@impossible5500]

mega project like great wall

[@dunkinpossum]

China as they say is still a developing country so it'll take China sometime to solve all the issues highlighted by the western speaker. Think that credit has to be given to the chinese for doing something rather then just ANNOUNCEMENTS and endless consultations of whether such a project is environmentally and economically feasible. We shall all see for ourselves in the next decade what the results are but one thing is for sure China will have a built water diversion system (much like the HSR), whilst others continue commenting

[@ken-ub5dz]

we should do this, Mississippi river to California. all that water flows in the gulf.

[@panyaboonc5621]

The high speed railway from LA to SF only about 500 miles if I am not wrong has already been more than 10 years since stated and there is still no sign of completion. If the US starts to build what China is doing diverting water from Mississippi to California. How long do you think it will be completed? I don't think anyone born in California today can live long enough to have a chance to use the water.

[@jesse89625]

@@panyaboonc5621 China can help

[@MetaView7]

They need to do this in the Midwest as well. The drought of the past few years has crippled many farmers. Some have to cull their cattle herds. Some have to cut back on their crops. They can do it if they allocate just 1% of their military budget to this project.

[@tonyc5384]

Don't be so ambitious diverting water to California, it will take more than a century for that to happen. Refill the Texas underground water table first.

[@anzac08]

!!! China has NO dams on the "Mekong River" (澜沧江 (Láncāng Jiāng).... not a single one-!! FYI

[@khaldrogo4460]

Can china block of the indus to india and divert it all to China and Pakistan

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

@@khaldrogo4460 brahmaputra not Indus. You are in the wrong river

[@George-k6o9t]

Have a look at a world map and atlas showing the river systems along the elevation routes involved in all the countries involved and then, come back with your suggestions.

[@yzy8638]

Indus river flow within pakistan

[@yongqi1907]

那么在印度下的雨会形成一个新的河流

[@haridasification]

Why is it not China building desalination plants

[@George-k6o9t]

Desals have their own inherent problems such as being extremely power hungry, and incur high costs in constructing and running them as well as causing environmental impact where marine life are endangered. Desalination plants also collect massive amount of waste that has to be disposed of and it is not something easily accomplished. Have a look online for the information on why desalination plants are not a panacea except for constant drought endangered and stricken countries that have severe problems in getting fresh drinking water. Getting natural fresh water through a water mitigation and irrigation and diversification system is always best than artificially means to create drinkable water.

[@edbardoe2195]

Infrastructure projects prop up the economy and provide wide ranging graft opportunities for the CCP. In the world of government planned economy’s, a win win!

[@kenoding118]

这就是你的称号－－有趣的工程。你的胡说的确有趣。

[@tianxu6611]

Every year investment is over 1 trillion RMB, equal to $140bn USD.

[@chanbengfoo342]

Chinese yuan goes to development And education American dollars goes to war and drugs

[@kundeleczek1]

Jako to się mówi w Polsce, mają rozmach.

[@EliyasKhan-q9y]

❤👍

[@init_yeah]

Planned economy will always fai

[@foodparadise5792]

yea, like the U-azz

[@MetaView7]

LOL if GM and Chrysler did not accept bailout money, they will fail too.

[@suanjiewtan8936]

@@MetaView7m They already starting to fail.

[@okwatever3582]

Just do it. That's their mindset. It's a double edge sword. they're effective at getting massive projects done with little opposition. the downside? they don't care as much until it is too late. like environment issues and livelihood of a small minority of the population and just relocate them. simply put, good for grand scheme of achieving a goal, bad at the small details like taking consideration of locals when they plan the project.

[@araara4746]

If that is true, of course you will be happy, but why do you speak as if you are worried about the lives of Chinese people?

[@linphilip6389]

every grand project will experience something like that. picky on this point is non sense.

[@Abcd1234-q4v]

Even the three gorges dam, there's a lot of negative talks from people green with envy. Now the three gorges dam project is a resounding success. There're many other water diversion programs to divert water to the thirsty north. After years of diligent efforts, we see it's bearing fruit, a green belt protecting China's farmlands from being swallowed up desertification. Now it's the reverse, more desert lands are being turned into verdant forests and fertile farmlands. Also less sand storms in northern provinces, including the capital city Beijing. Northern China is huge but dry and suffering from desertification for many centuries. Now with modern technology and careful planning, even these dry thirsty north and northwest China could be slowly transformed into productive farmlands, benefiting hundreds of millions of people.

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

@@okwatever3582 This is because 80% of Chinese government officials are engineers .So they like engineering solutions . Not only did they build on time . And 1/2 cheaper than in Europe .Thanks to politicians also engineers.

[@Johnnydoenyc]

So millions of engineers and scientists (who also run the govt) simply didn’t think of something that you thought of?

[@OM-PeaceE]

China occupied Tibet, Killed Million Tibetan for Water, & Natural Resources.. Tibet is Asia water Tower, where most of River Starts. 😢

[@Harmony99Harmony]

Are you okay ??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@kingwing3203]

被洗脑的麻瓜

[@yzy8638]

Before such "occupy", dhala lama sit in peoples hall at beijing Only after realizing he can no longer live like a king in tibet where children's bone are made in to music instruments to entertain him annually, he exile himself with dollar Though he still enjoy su king little boy's tongue in democratic human right bharat. LOL