Why Choose an Older Motorcycle?

One of the machines in my garage is a 2001 Kawasaki W650 motorcycle. A "modern" classic based on the style of standard motorcycles of the 1960s and 1970s. I call it my "vintage" motorcycle because it reminds me of those machines I was attracted to as a kid watching Steve McQueen riding in "The Great Escape" and Michael Parks in "Then Came Bronson."
There's a special magic in the right choice. In this video I talk about the requirements I have for a "vintage" motorcycle. #kawasaki #vintagemotorbike #w650

[@dereksmith5019]

I agree with you in all respects . I choose a '65 AJS 350 single , which i enjoy riding around town on nice days . At age 78 i won't be touring any more , but a couple of hours in the sunshine keeps it alive for me . Thanks for posting this .

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I had to look up the AJS. What a beautiful motorcycle. I understand the way a couple hours riding can make a person feel alive. At least those of us who can accept that we can do a longer tour. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on old bikes and riding. I appreciate them.

[@evdallas123]

I've been riding the same motorcycle since 1994 a Honda PC800 it's never let me down

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Well cared for machines can go for a long, long time. That particular Honda intrigues me. Have only seen one on the road once but pretty cool.

[@zluca05]

Steve, I’m really enjoying your videos. With your calm manner it’s easy to listen to all the different bike topics you cover. I agree with the old bike mentality as I ride a 2005 Bonneville that, like your Kawasaki, doesn’t have the modern “announces” of some of the newer bikes. I’ll look forward to your next story, thanks.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words about the videos I make. I appreciate them. There's just something relaxing about riding a good, older motorcycle...

[@alexwilsonpottery3733]

I have a 1997 Buell S3, which is relatively simple to work on, however despite living in the capital of Iowa, with a major Hardley dealership in town and another 30 miles away, getting the simplest of parts for it has always been like that scene in ‘Oh Brother Where Art Thou’, where George Clooney was told it would take two weeks to get a tin of ‘Dapper Dan’. You would think a clutch-cable would be something that wouldn’t need to be special-ordered. Unbelievably, it’s actually faster to get parts from the Netherlands! I LOVE the smell of two-strokes by the way.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

So far I've not had any issues getting parts for any of my machines when I'm doing the ordering. Some dealers though seem to have trouble. I'm not sure if they hold orders until they meet some quantity threshold or they only use certain suppliers but it can be frustrating. I remember waiting for three weeks for a part at a dealer that I could get overnight. Maybe they don't have a way to pay for something out of a certain network. Who knows. Maybe it's all a way the Universe has to teach me patience!

[@johnhawden4118]

Agreed, but..Im riding a 72 Triumph Bonneville most days, it makes me smile, if it needs parts (so far none needed) I can get them next day, Im in the UK.. For long trips in Europe I ride a 2002 BMW.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

We're fortunate that we can ride and maintain older machines with parts nearly always a matter of overnight shipping. Lots for which to be grateful. Ride safe!

[@captainjim605]

Another good video, Steve. I remember being a kid in the 60s and going into the local Yamaha/Harley Davidson dealer... and there it was: a Harley Davidson Sportster, with that gorgeous script "Sportster" on the tank. Of course, as a 14 year old, I couldn't afford a new anything. I wound up with a clapped out Honda 150 Dream, but I never gave up on that bike I saw in the tiny Yamaha/HD shop. I got my first new motorcycle, a Sportster 1000 in 1979. It was when I first felt I had "made it." ;-). A bunch of motorcycles and scooters since that time. Some passions don't go away over time. Keep riding!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Those early memories are strongly etched in my mind. I salivated over many motorcycles and while I had money to buy one my parents were dead set against motorcycles. So I begged and borrowed machines from friends and relatives so I could pretty much ride all the time. And as far as I know, they never knew of my two-wheeled antics. I loved the Sportster look. Never have owned a Harley but I did get to ride one for awhile. You can see a young me on that Harley here: scooterinthesticks.com/2016/02/beginning-rider/

[@goldilocks913]

Loved my first Harley sportster even though it blew up 😂

[@johnnymoore7480]

Amen Brother! I’m 67 years young. Got no first bike at 14, a Honda Dream. I’ve owned lots of bikes over the years. Would have kept them all if I had room for them. My daily bike as of the last two years has been a 600 Suzuki Bandit 600 S. Love a four cylinder. It’s a very dependable bike. Thanks for Your videos. Keep the shinily side Up…

[@debbiemilka2251]

Talk about sitting in a motel room. Three years ago while we were travling across country we had to sit put in Oklahoma City for four days while the local Honda dealer worked on our car. Iwould think it would be blast to go across the country on a bike like yours and justdo the two laners as much as possible in the spring time or October. Your Kawasaki motor has such a soothing sound.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

There's a certain road romance to spending time somewhere waiting while traveling. The introduction of the unexpected and unknown. And not a welcome event for anyone unable to accept the uncontrolled chaos in life. I'm grateful to have moved beyond trying to control everything in life. I can have a schedule, but I'm willing to abandon it if necessary. Not sure I'll ever be able to make that cross-country ride now. Life has moved me in a different direction. But I can dream... The W650 has a soothing sound. Not too soft, not too loud. Just right for me!

[@spurgear4]

I have a 2002 BMW, it's my new motorbike. Most of mine are form the 70s and go back to the mid 50s. I find the late 70s bikes fit me best, they still have the look of a real motorbike but are well designed and reliable. I just picked up a 78 BMW R 80 and once again I'm in love.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've always liked the appearance of the old BMW R bikes but liked the K bikes more and acquired a 1992 K75C. It was fun to ride and rock solid but it departed to make some room in my riding life for the Himalayan. But the W650 really does satisfy my desire for a motorcycle that looks like the ones I came to love back in the late 1960s. Plus it is far more reliable than bikes of that vintage. Good luck with your "new" 2002 BMW. I assume it's the R 1150 RS on your channel. That's a nice motorcycle.

[@garywebb7481]

😮Awesome video Steve. I have a Honda 1994 750 Magna and love it. It is always great to ride. 53,000 smiles on the clock. I also own a 2014 Honda CTX1300A for the long rides. At 76 they will probably be my last. I just love the sound and power of the V4s. I’m in Ohio and both bikes have been on the Dragon. I’d much rather be on a back road than roaring down the freeway at 80 mph.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words about the video. Glad you found some value in it. Your two Hondas are impressive machines. The Magna would have definitely caught my eye had I crossed paths with one. Especially in bright yellow. The CTX would have been heavier than I prefer though. But it would be a great long distance tourer. And lighter than a Goldwing! I hope I’m still riding as long as you have. Keep going! And thanks for sharing your experiences. I appreciate it.

[@darylhill9400]

Your bike sounds like a jewel. I’m sure it’s wonderfully crafted

[@ScooterintheSticks]

It's a fine machine. I am grateful to have it.

[@darylhill9400]

@@ScooterintheSticks being grateful is nice! Good luck to you

[@SYNCROORG]

Wonderful video. I too am a vintage rider with a vintage bike, and i'm also in PA (SE). I have a 1982 BMW R65 - a 650 cc opposed twin. It looks and rides like a brand new bike and has less than 20,000 miles on it. I bought it 5 years ago for $3,800 from a retired Dr. in CA. I bought the exact same bike as a young man in 1981 after i had given up racing motocross. I rode that thing everywhere, including cross-country twice. But this one i have now, i just ride it on the twisty PA back roads i am blessed to be surrounded by. It's all i need and all i want, and i'm very pleased with it and to still be riding. I have no desire whatsoever for a newer machine. - Steve

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words about the video and for sharing your experiences with motorcycles. Riding old motorcycles has a special charm that not everyone can appreciate. Especially those focused on the ultimate examples of performance. But here in Pennsylvania we have plenty of twisty back roads to melt into on some really relaxed rides. I took a look at your channel and was delighted to see the Synchro Westies content. My neighbor has an early 80s version with a diesel engine that I find myself salivating over. Back in 1970 I took my PA drivers test in our brand new Volkswagen Campmobile. I loved it and still think that someday I may own one. The prices keep climbing though so my Toyota Sienna may be as close as I get!

[@vesparama]

I hear you loud and clear and agree.There's a charm and character and one could even say a soul in those old bikes. Just like an old Gretsch or Gibson guitar. They were designed with passion and practicality. They become your best friend very quickly.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I agree completely with your thoughts. Certain things just feel right. The W650 is one of them for me.

[@vesparama]

@@ScooterintheSticks Good to hear. May it continue to bring you happiness.

[@Bob-xc2us]

Good day Scooter. I don't really consider the W650 to be a vintage motorcycle but I own a 1968 Norton Commando. I also own a 2022 W800. Aside from the fuel injection and antilock brakes it is essentially the same as your W650. European safety and emissions standards have forced these modernizations and Kawasaki have done an admirable job of preserving the riding experience. They have kept the bike as simple as possible given the regulatory requirements they face. Thanks for sharing these inciteful videos. Very enjoyable and relaxing to watch. As a 70 year old rider I share a lot of your perceptions, opinions and observations about motorcycles and motorcycling in general. Getting out on any W series motorcycle is a peaceful and tranquil experience that most riders don't understand. Those of us that do understand realize what they are missing out on. PS: That bike of yours can easily to 100,000 trouble free miles with proper maintenance. Everything is so overbuilt and under stressed. Cheers, Bob in Ottawa, Canada

[@CefaCat]

Very well said Sir

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I realized too late that my own definition of "vintage" might differ from others. A lot of words turn up for old machines, things like antique, classic, modern classic, and vintage. As regular viewers of my channel know, I don't get too involved in the mechanics and technology of scooters and motorcycles and tend to focus more on the experience of riding them. It's why I look for things that are ready to go and need no modification to enjoy or use. You're right about the W650 being peaceful and tranquil to ride. The only time I feel it gets excited is when you get over 5000 RPMs. The engine really screams without a sixth gear. But I'm a slow and lazy rider and seldom get to that point. Thanks for your comments and the suggestion that the bike will easily reach 100K miles. That's nice to know!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

He did a thorough job describing the W series bikes.

[@Bob-xc2us]

@@ScooterintheSticks The W650 does rev a little higher than the W800 as it has a larger rear sprocket (39 teeth vs 37 on the 800). Fifth gear on the W bikes is actually a 15% overdrive. All a 6th gear would do is put the gear ratio spacing closer together and the W bikes don't nedd that due to their broad torque curve. My W800 really comes alive between 4000 and 6000rpm and all vibrations disappear. Your bike may sound likes it's really revving but it is not. The Ws don't really need to run at those rpms but they will willingly do it if you are in a bit of a hurry. Enjoy your time with that gorgeous piece of machinery. It does have a soul in my opinion.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@Bob-xc2us Each ride on the W650 is a joy.

[@richardahola692]

I ride old and new bikes. Newest is a 2011 Honda Tornado 250. Carbureted, no electronics and simple. Too small for long distances. Mostly ride a 1987 GL1200 that had 100,000 miles on it. Base model that doesn't even have a radio. I am planning on removing the fairing because it is way too hot in the summer. When I want old I ride my buddy's 1967 Bonneville. The old Bonneville is a blast to ride but I don't think I could ride it very far. Ee have been talking about riding from NY to Ohio for the AMA Vintage Days. I would like to ride the old Triumph but I doubt my body would hold up.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The W650 looks a lot like those old Bonnevilles but without the problems that affects reliability. I hope you find yourself at the AMA Vintage Days on the old Triumph. But I understand the limitations of the body as I get older. Who would have thought...

[@gregjablunovsky841]

I'm also a "mature" guy in PA. Last year, I bought a Kawasaki KLR 650 from 1998. I'm enjoying the accessibility of the mechanicals and have been able to do basic maintenance, ease of trouble-shooting, and reliability after 3,000 of my miles. Parts are easy to find, and affordable. My longest day has been 220 miles, visiting my daughter at Penn State. I enjoyed the insights you shared.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've always liked the KLR and considered one some years ago. And for sure they are reliable, easy to work on, and have a huge backing of parts and accessories. A great bike to visit Penn State even though the University makes it tough to park a motorcycle.

[@kelvinjolley6264]

Hi I'm from UK,i purchased a Kawasaki w650 brand new in 2005 ,the last year they sold them here, fantastic bike still got it totally reliable 28200 miles at the moment glad you are enjoying yours,i will not sell it.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for sharing your W650 experience. I don't see myself selling mine until I can't ride it anymore. Hopefully that's still some years off...

[@timjones3423]

My 2001 R1100r BMW that I put 95k on never let me down, and when I sold it, it was as strong as the day I purchased it new. Love your bike new ride.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for sharing your experience. A solid motorcycle stays solid as long as it is cared for.

[@debbiemilka2251]

P.S. You have a great bike Steve. The openess of the riders view ofthe road is exciting. I envy youand that W650. Way cool.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

It is a fine motorcycle. Proves itself perfect for me and my riding landscape every time I take it out.

[@egalitarianvegan8806]

Very nice video. Loved the pleasant ride through the country. Something they used to teach in engineering was the KISS rule. Keep it simple stupid. With complexity comes fragility and fragility leads to unreliability. Modern motorcycles seem less reliable. At least the ones my friends own. Often they are in the shops for months waiting on parts and computer updates. My 05 Sportster 883 has been one of the most reliable trouble free bikes I have ever owned. It is just a basic bike. With just basic maintenance it is always ready to roll. On a day ride or cross state adventure it has run trouble free. I get teased by my friends for still riding my old Sportster. Still they all have begrudgingly had to admit she has been more reliable than their modern bikes with all their modes and computer gadgetry. Simplicity is the way to go.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words about the video. I appreciate them. I'm grateful to live in such a lovely part of Pennsylvania. Plenty of quiet roads. And lots of beautiful scenery. And an ample supply of places to stop to eat. Modern cars and motorcycles are frightening to look at. The technology and electronics are overwhelming sometimes and like you say a nightmare to deal with when they fail. But I suppose our culture, at least the majority anyway, is driven by a desire for the latest and greatest stuff. Me -- I'm content to ride along in something simple.

[@jessbailey6718]

That road….great voice over on a fantastic bike too.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@patrickbodine1300]

No payments. I can fix it myself. Parts are plentiful. Minimal electronics. Very little plastic, if any. Fun factor. Uniqueness.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yes sir. All those things.

[@iggyzorro2406]

I remember when the W650 came out - it was considered a retro look bike. Thankfully, Kawi kept it going with the W800; and others carried on as well: Royal Enfield, Triumph, HD sportster and others because IMHO that's what a motorcycle looks like. p.s. - those roads are beautiful rides like That Bloke On The Motorbike. Very Zen. thanks

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm glad there are still retro bikes around. They definitely are a good fit for me. Can't beat those country roads!

[@gmoac]

Yes, i feel the same way, i dont like too much electronics..

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yep!

[@KrakensGarageandAdventures]

Another excellent video, Steve. You mailed it with the W650. Vintage appeal, with stone cold reliability. You hit a homeowner when you found that bike. Your channel continues to blossom.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you Eric. Before I bought it I remember you telling me it was a great motorcycle and shouldn't pass it up. I was convinced I wanted it after just a mile or so on the bike but knew I sometimes leap forward without thinking. You helped clear things for me.

[@donhamm8740]

Excellent thoughts Steve, as always. Yes, something older we are drawn to from those pleasant memories from our youth. My first obsession was a Harley Topper my neighbors son had stored in his garage when I was about 10 or 12. Spent quite a bit of time just staring at it through a window and fantasizing. Theses days I’ve gotten close to those days riding my Vespa Sei Giorni.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

As I get older it's funny what memories become clearer and stronger. Those early obsessions certainly fall into that category. I was hoping to get a ride in today on my GTS. Circumstance intervened...

[@jamesschneider3828]

If you think you need antilock brakes and traction control you should maybe slow down a little. You will enjoy the ride much better without having to worry about those things.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Two of my five machines in the garage have antilock brakes. As far as I know they've never activated. Antilock isn't a must have for me.

[@petev.9357]

Great video! I'm in PA around Millersburg. I have a 92 Honda 750 Nighthawk. After a few newer bikes, Yamaha FJ-09, that look like something from Transformers, I went back to simplicity, vintage, and traditional also.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Before I had any motorcycles the 750 Nighthawk was bright in my imagination. Affordable and bombproof in my mind. And it looks far better than a lot of the newer bikes. Synching four carbs doesn't sound simple though to me but I guess it's something to learn. I've ridden through Millersburg a few times. I've crossed on the ferry in a car but every time I've been there with a motorcycle or scooter the ferry wasn't running. Is it still in business?

[@Dave-from-Mercer-Island-WA-USA]

I’ve owned a 2000 W650, a ’08 Bonniville T100 and now a ’20 W800. The Hinckley Triumphs are great bikes, but I prefer the Kawis. Pity they don’t get the love they deserve in this country.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The W650 is a fine motorcycle but I suspect the majority of riders, like auto drivers, garner reliability issues when something isn't new. The W650 is rare here. I've never seen another in the wild. I've seen several W800s.

[@davericketts9101]

Hi Steve. As you know, I have a 2001 W650, in burgundy and cream and I love riding and owning it, for all the same reasons you have outlined in this video. Good to see you riding it and look forward to any future rides on this bike. Take care and enjoy these lovely rides. Best wishes from across The Pond. Dave

[@ScooterintheSticks]

We're lucky men having a W650 in our lives. I hope both of us can ride them into our sunset!

[@davericketts9101]

@@ScooterintheSticks Amen to that.

[@GunCollector007]

Wonderful video

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for your kind words about the video. I appreciate you taking time to comment.

[@gixxer750r3]

Aesthetics and Simplicity also applies to older cars. Pre 1970 cars were easy to work on and great looking. Their mostly annual design changes and many option choices make every one of them unique. I have a 1967 BSA and nothing ever goes wrong that I can’t fix in a couple of hours.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Now and then I think about what car I might want when I have to give up riding. That there must be something out there that would stimulate similar excitement. So far I don't have a long list. A Jeep Wrangler of some sort has long fascinated me. And old Land Rovers and Land Cruisers. The latter two would be far to expensive though... There was a time when I would have been willing to wrench on my machines. But that time has come and gone.

[@gixxer750r3]

@@ScooterintheSticks In my opinion, while those old AWD cars sound "sexy", they are unsafe and uncomfortable. Believe it or not there are still 60's and 70's cars out there with really low mileage that can be had for much less than you would pay for a new Corolla. But stay with the four-doors because they are much cheaper than the coupes and convertibles. Still stylish and fun, though.

[@charlesedenfield8947]

@@ScooterintheSticks Mazda Miata is a potential replacement vehicle.

[@chuckkelley5894]

Pure Art! I, too, have older bikes because I like them better. I like quick. Not interested in the top end. I have everything from a moded 250 dual sport to a 200 + HP Diavel. I love them all; each has particular use and/or draw. When it's just between you and your bike, amazing experiences are common place.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

It is a handsome motorcycle. And the more I ride it the more I appreciate its simplicity. Like you the top end isn't important. But the look and feel is. For all my machines. Riding is the important art. And the more I practice, the brighter life becomes.

[@trickster11300]

Great video Steve. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts. I happen to agree with your views and opinions. Thanks again.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for watching! And for the kind words.

[@sportsmancraft1]

Been riding my ST1100 for 34 years now.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Nice. Honda makes durable machines. I bet you’ve built some fine memories on it!

[@charlesedenfield8947]

Glad you caught yourself on the term ´´vintagé’. But I think you have it right now. The bike you have is a modern motorcycle that intentionally replicates the old bike characteristics. Even though I’ve owned 50+ MCs, mostly because of a racing dirt bike fetish, the one I enjoy the most now that I’m in my eighties is my ´59 AJS 650 British restoration. I ride it the same way you do the Kawasaki in this video. There is a slightly different process however at the beginning of the ride😂. First I press the right hand petcock to the on position. Give the monobloc carb float bowl a couple of depressions to dump some fuel in the manifold, pull the magneto advance lever and inch or so to retard the ignition, pull the clutch lever in and kick once to free the clutch plates, return the kick lever to the top and with one or two kicks start the engine, return the ignition lever to full advance and THEN press the right side shift lever UP to engage first gear and now ………….motor away. Now, that’s a vintage experience. It’s an experience that involves not simply motoring but participation in the process in an enormously satisfying way. BTW, I do get your preference of having much of the look and feel of old bike riding whilst being comforted by the knowledge that the systems in play are modern and reliable. My enjoyment of servicing my bikes enables me to feel a freedom to do so with a truly primitive old bike. I also ride a Royal Enfield Interceptor for those occasions where I’m travelling some distance. Very much enjoyed this video. Thanks

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're correct in identifying my goals -- "the look and feel of old bike riding whilst being comforted by the knowledge that the systems in play are modern and reliable. " There's a line somewhere though in regard to simplicity. I want to press the starter and go. I'll put up with the choke but not much more. I have no joy tinkering or servicing machines anymore. But motorcyclists are a large and diverse group and our varied interests are what makes us fun to talk with. Thanks for sharing the description of starting. your '59 AJS. I'm happy to read it. Wouldn't want to do it! ;)

[@charlesedenfield8947]

@@ScooterintheSticks Completely understand. I liken it to tuning an old finely crafted guitar or violin. There is a certain satisfaction in the process of doing so and it is a requirement for older high quality hand made musical instruments. But, as you point our, there are many musicians who just want to pick it up a play the music. In the end, it's the music that is the goal as riding is the goal of many of we who enjoy motorcycles. Thanks for responding.

[@georgew1751]

Excellent perspective on riding vintage motorcycles. If I can't trust it to get me there and back I see no reason to own it---but that is just me.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I spoke with the Kawasaki tech who owned if from new and that I bought it from -- she told me she would not hesitate to ride it any distance. Even with almost 50K miles on it now. So perhaps I can ride it much farther than I think.

[@philipcooper8297]

In 2010, I bought 1987 Honda XBR 500 on clubman spoked wheels (499cc air cooled single cylinder), that I still own and ride today. Very reliable, amazing range (great MPG + 20L fuel tank) and powerful enough (32.8 kW, 42.7 Nm) to keep up with the traffic with very low maintenance cost. All the consumable parts are still available today. XBRs are also quite rare these days and I do like to own something special, if you know what I mean.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've never seen an XBR500 in the wild. Kind of looks like a smaller Nighthawk 750. Honda makes some great machines. Reliable and easy to find parts and service. Keep that '87 XBR500 going. Looks like a fine motorcycle.

[@philipcooper8297]

@@ScooterintheSticks Also have a look at GB 500. That's the ''fancy'' version of the XBR, but those are even rarer and people ask silly money for GBs these days.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@philipcooper8297 That GB 500 is a beautiful bike. Cafe style one I looked at online was amazing. I've never seen one in life but I'll keep my eyes open now!

[@TechnoJonny]

Hi, Interesting video, I agree 100% about riding older motorbikes, I rode my 1988 Honda cd250u to work today, No rider modes, No TFT dash, No unnecessary electronics (To potentially go wrong), It hasn't even got a petrol gauge!, I bought it 3 years ago, I've had to spend around £800-£900 pounds on it, Mainly fixing the Bodges done by previous owners, But money well spent in my opinion.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

A real “naked” bike! I forgot about no gas gauge. I just set the trip odometer to zero and fill up at 100 miles.

[@b.nichols3255]

I ride an old motorcycle because if it goes wrong I can fix it. I don't need a computer or a box full of electronic circuit boards.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Definitely an advantage.

[@knutarvidhansen3300]

Thank you Kawasaki for making a troublefree vintage bike that England never was close to produce even after 60 years of struggling (since Bonneville 65 which is a model for the W)

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm not a moto-historian or an expert in old motorcycles. But I can say that the W650 is a fine machine in my opinion. It's fun to ride and it does everything I ask of it. But each of us is unique in our desires, needs, and expectations. I just try to make sure I'm being honest about mine and not allow myself to be unduly influenced by marketing or expectations of others. And so far my W650 has been trouble free. That's always a plus!

[@Peerbabakpk]

Great video sir, it’s so relaxing can’t tell, don’t wanted to finish. I would like to add some more, if any one wants to know why we an older age people still wants to ride ? he or she should try lessor electronics bikes, they will give you the answer why ? real companionship you only get in lessor complicated machine that’s why we fall in love with lessor electronics bikes. no ABS, no electronically controlled suspension, now I saw electronically controlled main stand oh my God where motorcycle companies are taking to our new generation. Old is gold love it

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're right about the overwhelming amount of technology on new motorcycles. I suppose it can fine tune riding but I like the choices I have to make and the skill I have to bring to the ride. You and I are in the dying minority though I fear.

[@debbiemilka2251]

Steve, Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I heartily agree. In retrospect the only things I could have done better was to drainall the oil out of it and put a cap on the exhaust tip. Should I have purded the brake lines ? I dunno. I am the one andonly owner since new. I bought it from Matt Capri in Lomita from his South Bay Triumph dealership. It'sbeen garaged continuously and never stored outdoors. Yesterday I moved it out of the far corner of the garage and cleaned it up after I pumped up the tires and then I lifted it up on a rear wheel Pit Bull. A place of prominence between the two cars. I found an independent in town that Triumph recommended. I explained it's condition to them and they sid bring it in at my earliest conveince. Next week when I get the new battery things will be exciting. This will be it for now and I'll write back if all goes well as I expect it should. Do you know anything about aftermarket mufflers that are lighter than stock ? Cheers ! Steve.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Sounds like you have a plan and are moving forward in a good direction with your motorcycle. I bet the shop will be able to bring it into a fine riding condition. As is with most things, money is one of the essential tools. I have no experience with aftermarket mufflers of any kind for any machine. I always leave everything stock. And so far, everything I've owned sounds great as is!

[@sleethmitchell]

a motorcycle is kind of a horse, isn't it? the first motorcycle i personally put on the road was a 40s indian scout. it went fast enough for me to enjoy the process without feeling an ever present fear of death. i bought it when old bikes were the only bikes i could afford. it cost $150 and a bit of elbow grease. not a lot, either. always preferred choppers (the ones NOW called, bobbers) ... i was a hippie and LIKED feeling like an outsider; never had enough friends to ride with a club.a few years ago, my sporty was stolen and not returned for a few years. as a result, i lost my feeling of comfort. i'm parting with my two bikes; trying to find a nice place for them. liked your video.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Well, horseback riding is three times more dangerous than riding a motorcycle. But then risk is always able to be managed to some degree. Statistics can give an incomplete picture.... Part of my risk management is riding scooters and motorcycles that are most comfortable at a leisurely pace. I've never been interested in speed or power so that helps. I've never ridden a chopper or bobber. They look neat. Parting with your bikes. I hope something fun comes next.

[@Skedawg88]

For me it is more about the ride than the bike. I own three rides, all BMW the newest is a 2001.Cheaper and unless collectible the prices are easier on the wallet. Design peaked in the 60's in my opinion. Good vid. I recall when your modern retro bike came out and it was well received harkening back to the 60's.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The ride is of high importance to me as well. But I have to say the wrong bike will spoil the ride for me. And so will the design. Perhaps a shallow embrace of riding on my part...

[@Team-fabulous]

Lovely video and the W650 is a fantastic little machine but I do question your definition of an old or vintage motorcycle... However keep the videos coming.🏁🏁🏁🏁

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yeah, I dropped the ball on “vintage” for sure. Didn’t realize it until the video was done. That’s why I titled it “0ld.” The downside of narrating while I ride with no plan or script!🙈 The W650 is a fine modern classic motorcycle. And in Pennsylvania it’s old enough now for a Classic plate. I just want to ride it as much as possible!

[@Team-fabulous]

@@ScooterintheSticks you're doing a great job. Iv a 56 Royal Enfield 500 Bullet plus a new 350 meteor. I road raced for thirty years and now quite happy to fart about at 50 mph... Fart fart fart🏁👍🏁

[@Jerry-ff3ry]

When I was growing 650cc was big

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@Jerry-ff3ry I remember thinking my friend's 350 Honda was a big bike.

[@kostyafedot551]

In Belgium they have old timer type of vehicle registration. Something for weekend rides. My relatives told me it could be stretch pass week-ends use .

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I could get a Classic license plate for my W650. No annual inspections required. But there are limitations on when you can ride and how much you can ride.

[@alvindavenport5657]

I had a W650 in about 2004. It was the very attractive blue and chrome model. It was a 2 year old leftover that the dealer sold me for $4300. That was a good deal at the time. I didn’t keep it very long as I was in a phase of trading bikes very often. When you speak of vintage bikes, I suppose we all have different ideas of what is vintage. I normally consider a bike with points in the ignition as vintage. My 1983 Honda has electronic ignition, so despite its age, I consider it an older modern bike. On the other hand, a Harley Sportster I sold a while back was a 2001, and it rode and felt vintage. It’s all a matter of perspective.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I didn't really think much about the meaning of "vintage" until I have finished editing the video. I've found various definitions of the term, enough to feel comfortable that we can each self-define the meaning of vintage. My 1992 BMW K75 was more modern than my 2001 W650!

[@LordFrito]

Im 24 and I absolutely love old bikes. I got myself an 82 honda

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're in a minority of young riders I fear. But those old bikes are pretty cool if you take the time to appreciate them.

[@jerryhatley5004]

I’m completely with you as I ride my ‘95 Honda VT1100 Shadow or work on the ‘66 Honda S90 I’m restoring…it’s a very “zen” thing…

[@ScooterintheSticks]

There was a Honda S90 at our local Moto Hang last night. A cool bike. I used to find a "zen" feeling working on scooters long ago. But I've lost it. Hopefully the day will come again when I can do something like you are.

[@blrmotorcyclesinc.]

The one of most beautiful looking engines W650/W800. 👌

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Rockinbiker1946]

I'm 77 and I agree. The simpler the better. I have been riding since I was 20 and can't keep track of the number of cycles I've had from 70cc to 1150ccs. Many air head and oil head BMWs but they have, as with other brands, gone too far with the electronic wizardry add ons. I have considered the Kawasaki W800 as some are starting to pop up on the used classifieds.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The W800 motorcycle looks nice though I have to say I prefer the more bare bones W650. All of my machines are pretty simple in design and construction. The older I get the more value I see in simplicity. And not just with motorcycles!

[@Rockinbiker1946]

@@ScooterintheSticks I searched Cycle Trader nationwide for a W650 and found only 2 for sale in Alabama, 800 miles from me.

[@brucehelppie6119]

i consider a 2001 bike to be rather modern. i just bought a 2006 sportster 1200 that feels like a brand new bike. i like the classic looking bikes, too. the w650 is a good looking bike. i wanted mechanical simplicity too.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yeah, I wasn't accurate calling my W650 a vintage bike. It's old but as you say a modern classic. I love the way it looks and handles. Perfect for the way I ride.

[@oscartravis5740]

I love mine and it's thanks to your videos I was alerted to their existence and it made me search one out! I've done all kinds of maintenance and upgrades thanks, as you say, to their simplicity, things I would never have had the confidence to undertake on a more modern bike. My only real bugbear is having to take the tank off to access the spark plugs, but that's a piffling gripe compared with the pleasure I get from it, and looks wise, I feel like I'm dating the best looking girl in the town 😄

[@ScooterintheSticks]

That is awesome! I wish I still had the drive and energy to wrench on my machines. The last year or so has introduced me to a lack of energy that I can only point to my advancing years to explain. And yes, the W650 is the best looking girl in town!!!

[@Bob-xc2us]

Try changing spark plugs on Yamaha YZF R6 or any other sport bike and you will love doing them on your W.

[@Bob-xc2us]

@@ScooterintheSticks Hey Scooter: plus one on the lack of energy as years advance. My doctors have me on a blood pressure medication that slows the heart rate and lowers the energy levels even further. Getting older sucks in many ways but it is probably better than the alternative of not getting older. (RIP)

[@TheCoopdway]

"....pain and suffering...." The joke between my Vintage friends (emphasis on upper case V) that in their dotage and large collections of machines old and very old, "Everyone needs at least one machine that doesn't NEED them". Your W650 patiently waits for its turn in your riding rotation.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm hoping to avoid any unnecessary suffering! The W650 has been sidelined as I'm riding the Himalayan a lot more now. But it will get its turn again.

[@RicardoValdes-r6w]

Easy simple but great review and show casing of your Kawasaki. If many or at least a handful of motorcyclist such as yourself and me would appreciate the logic of riding bikes as you well mentioned that are vintage bikes 20 years or older and also present their format in a simple without hype platform then much can be further appreciated. This new generation in the so called high tech fast pace and money hungry world have lost much through keeping things easy simple and in a spirit of goodness that cries out for righteousness because there is unfortunately much personal pride and also much more malice without the realization that by a mindful excellent design we were created for greatness but to remain humble and grateful. I am grateful to the Lord in Jesus Christ each moment of the day and I am grateful for you presenting such nice easy going video. God bless you Sir. Ricardo Valdes in Florida..

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on old motorcycles, technology, and simplicity. The world is certainly changing on all those fronts. I'm never sure if the increase in complexity and technology in vehicles is a result of the demands of buyers, or the manufacturers trying to increase their profits. May the Lord bless you and keep you this day.

[@capthook8066]

Great video Steve. Still enjoying my 2010 GTS 300. Did want to let you know I bought a new 2024 Yamaha Xmax scooter. Nice machine. Has some modern safety features and ament. Still breaking it in so no high speeds yet.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Nice! I'll be interested to hear how the two scoots compare. I've heard only good things about the XMAX.

[@dennyf01]

As I write this, I'm on my way home to North Carolina from a trip to Bangor Maine on a 24 year old Honda VFR800. Some bikes are just timeless,

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Very cool! Is it red or yellow??

[@dennyf01]

@@ScooterintheSticks Yellow. I feel seen. Mostly.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@dennyf01 My Himalayan is green camo…🙈

[@debbiemilka2251]

Hi Steve, I just bychance had the good fortune to spot this video entry fro your channel today and I would like to ask you a relevant question regarding "vintage" motorcycles. I have a 1999 Triumph Sprint ST that I am trying to get out of storage at my home and onto the street again. Almost 5 years ago I had it upgraded at a well known motorsports shop. I broughtit home and haven't ridden it since then. It onlyhas 31,000 miles on it. Never crashed. I talked to Triumph of Las Vegas yesterday and they don't want to touch it as it is over ten years old. I want a shop to go through it completely and replace whatever is not mechanically sound. Does this sound feasible to you ? I figure to get new tires and a chain. Check the cylinders for corrosion and if that passes muster change oil and filter with some oil added to the top of each piston and allowed to soak on down and hand turn the crank. Check brake lines , pads aand replace brake fluid. A new battery and I would think it should work out. What do you think of my plan ?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Sounds like a good plan to me. I’m not sure if they need to open up the engine to check the cylinders. But everything else sounds like a good plan. You may have to find an independent mechanic to do the work. More and more dealer shops don’t want to work on the old bikes. In part because their technicians aren’t familiar with them, and in part because parts can become a problem. Good luck with your adventure.

[@newlife155]

Steve, do you have any tips on riding on the tar snakes, I notice a lot on your roads and it could help us newer drivers. Thanks

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I have found zero issues with tar snakes. Probably because I don't ride aggressively. And around here they are often hard even in hot weather so the "slippery tar" effect is minimal.

[@ArtLifeThings]

That's a good looking bike.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Definitely a handsome machine.

[@dermotleeson1348]

Hi Steve it's big D from the UK bud .hope I find you well, love your channel and your vlogs. Question, what was the longest trip you have done on a bike? Secondly are you planning any road trips for the future? Cheers

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The longest ride I've made in a day was on my Vespa GTS 250 and added 350 miles to the clock. I did a two day camping ride the was about 450 miles total. Because of life circumstances almost all my rides take place in one day. I have no plans for any two-wheeled road trips in the future. It would be nice but just not possible.

[@22fret]

Why? Because old bikes are awesome. They have style instead of looking like angry insects and the usually have overly comlicated electronic gizmos. I have just bought a 1984 BMW K100 basic. I just love the old flying bricks. They are incredibly reliable and very easy to maintain. It's already my 4th K model. I started with a K75 from 1992 12 years ago, rode a 1983 K100 for more than 6 years and now the "new" one. In the meantime i also had a K100RS 16V, but I didn't like it too much. The 1994 PD06 Transalp however was a great Motorcycle, that I enjoyed very much, therefore I used that one for 3 years. When I sold it, I was searching for something comparable which I found in the Ténéré 700 2 years ago. My only new bike, but I bought it, because it is so old fashioned in a way. Almost no electronics, a clutch cable, an accelerator cable. The switches on the handlebar look like they did 30 years ago. That's what I wanted for my long haul trips. Almost 35.000 kms in just 2 years and 4 months, that says something about this machine, indeed...

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I understand completely. I had a 1992 K75C which I sold to get the Himalayan. Now I wish I would have kept it. It was a fine motorcycle. Angry insects. With plastic.

[@22fret]

@@ScooterintheSticks Well, they are still relatively cheap, so you might consider getting another K75... 😁 Cheers from Germany...

[@bensatterwhite5694]

Angry insects is a good analogy of the modern motorcycle styling.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@bensatterwhite5694 Sure is.

[@jamshedsethna3428]

Great bike. Very refined. Same HP as W800 !!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

And you get to fiddle around with the choke when starting!

[@BobKramer51]

No problem with reliability on an older bike. I have toured many thousands of miles on bikes over 40 years old. Do a thorough job of reconditioning the electrical systems, especially the ignition, there is no reason it should not be as reliable as a new bike.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for sharing the advice. I’ll heed it for sure.

[@cerealtiller]

My Ride is a 1986 Honda 1200 Goldwing Interstate it is smooth and Powerful it has AirSuspension which gives a good ride. it has only done 100 thousand Miles... it does not have ABS or Traction control I will never part with it. Your Kawasaki is an eminently sensible Bike.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I understand your thoughts completely.

[@alfred-vz8ti]

price matters, and old [but good] can be attractive. a lot of modern bikes are styled like spaceships, or grossly over-weight so they can be over-priced as well. a 750cc beemer boxer is the ultimate 'far and fast machime', for my money, and theire is a case for a 350cc honda twin, as well.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm not wild about the modern spaceship bikes. The only modern ones I like are the classic styled Triumphs. I could see a Bonneville or a Scrambler in my life for looks only. But like you say, they're heavy and pricey. The 350cc Honda twin is a fine motorcycle!

[@Scooterdude01]

W650 is jewelry, great value

[@ScooterintheSticks]

It sure is! Mine glitters in the garage!

[@bernibeckmann9753]

Good vibe, good scenery. Where is this?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Central Pennsylvania. Penns Valley. Between Centre Hall and Millheim mostly.

[@bernibeckmann9753]

@@ScooterintheSticks Thanks! I'm in Ontario Canada. I've been told I need to ride in Pennsylvania. They were right.

[@theodavies8754]

The W650 was a good choice,if properly maintained should cover 100k+ miles. As a clockmaker I get to see machines that are 150+ years old. I have a '99 Harley low rider and still think of it as new. Electric start and electronic ignition make getting old easier. My first Harley in "88,a 4 speed sportster. Got a '95 low rider because the tank range wasn't working out. Find the nicest example of the bike that does it for you,pay over the odds for it if that's what it takes.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've never crossed paths with a clockmaker. That a craft that has to be rare these days in a disposable world. I'm amazed though at the craftsmanship that still exists for everything from clocks and watches to shoes and motorcycles. I envy those with such skills. I hope my W650 rides on without issue. It will be going in to the shop soon for some routine maintenance and the Pennsylvania State Inspection required each year. I am glad to have this W650.

[@twloughlin]

The Triumph 400 still lives in my memory as the bike my aunt let me ride when I was 16 and no one was looking. I wonder....

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Maybe you'll run across one some day...

[@spindelnett6315]

It's interesting that my local bike servicing and sales place, is run by two guys who both ride the Kawasaki W650. They sell all marques of 2nd hand bikes yet they swear by this model. Got me thinking.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Until the Kawasaki mechanic that was doing a PA State Inspection of my Himalayan told me she was selling her W650 I had no idea what they were. She showed me a couple pictures on her phone and I knew immediately I loved the way it looked. A few days later she brought it in for me to test ride and I was hooked and forked over the cash.

[@johnfountain8588]

I am around your age and have had bikes since I was 12 I too like a basic no frills bike but I also want reliability and fuel injection - so I opted for a 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 cc It’s about as basic as you can get in a bike and if bought used as I did with 2000 miles on it in my opinion is the way to go Glad to see you out and about on your kawi Ride safe

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I briefly considered the Interceptor but the W650 came along before I had a chance to ride one. Seems an outstanding motorcycle for all the reasons I prefer.

[@ceesklumper]

Anything from around 2000 is modern. Electronic ignition, fuel injection, ECU control etc. I had a 1976 Yamaha XS650, now that's 'older'.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

My 2001 is "modern" though it has carbs and a kick starter. It looks like a 68 Triumph. It's my good old bike!

[@newlife155]

So just bought the Royal Enfield Bullet 350. In my opinion I could say that your comments regarding your trophy could seamlessly apply to mine. ENJOY.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Those classic style cruisers are just fun to ride. Have fun with your Bullet!

[@Scooterdude01]

Oh yeah, I hear you brother. I have a 05 shadow 750 06 reflex 250 07 helix 250. Total investment. 4800.00

[@ScooterintheSticks]

There is definitely an economy to buying used vehicles. The precipitous drop in value when you leave the showroom along with the freight and setup charges are already gone...

[@georgebatson5705]

😊

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Sure is fun to ride that W650!

[@Mike-vw7ct]

The background noise is hard to hear through.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Sorry about that. I keep experimenting bit still not satisfied with the audio. The road and exhaust sound still is too loud for the voice. The downside of narrating while riding.

[@Richard-pe4cx]

i get as much pleasure from my newish T120 CLEANING AND POLISHING AS RIDING THERE I SAID IT

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I really wish I got some kind of satisfaction from cleaning and polishing the scooters and motorcycles. I never have but I keep trying. It would be nice to have that for cold and rainy days.

[@royblackburn1163]

New car's and bikes have depreciation and warranties that are not worth the paper they are written on.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've wasted a lot of money over the decades on new cars. I was one of those sad servants of debt who believed if I could make the car payment I could afford the loan. Eventually I realized I wasn't wealthy enough to take the depreciation hit let alone the interest rates on a new car. I'm grateful to have eventually seen the light and now only pay cash for vehicles and generally buy good used ones that have already depreciated the big front end hit. Marketing made it tough though telling me I work hard, I "deserve" a new car. Insanity. No wonder Americans are in so much debt...

[@bazxl57]

Vintage 20 years old? I have 2 Triumphs over 50 years old there classed as Classic no where near vintage

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yeah, I tossed that term around without thinking much about the legal or formal classifications. That's why I titled the video about "old" motorcycles. I think I probably conflated the vintage appearance with vintage bikes...

[@MichaelBall-uu5lg]

Not that old Steve really though you were going older 50s 60s

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yeah, I wasn't clear or accurate about age and vintage...

[@zluca05]

….annoyances

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I find more and more annoyances with technology on motorcycles and scooters. I have to just accept things change I guess.

[@jeremykeller211]

Old motorcycle = no electronics=no rider impairment. Electronics = weaker riders.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Well, I don't think any motorcycle, old or new, will solve the problem of lack of skill or plain old bad behavior.

[@ceesklumper]

I'll take ABS, solid brakes, sharp suspension any day over a sloppy, poorly braking and lugging bike any day. I prefer to live, not get wiped out.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@ceesklumper I certainly appreciate good brakes and decent suspension. Comfort and safety are easier with them. ABS isn't important though two of my bikes came with it. And in terms of power I have a wide range from 9 horsepower to 50 horsepower. They require an intelligent approach to the ride with each. I don't expect the machine to save me from bad choices, inadequate skills, or other vehicles. All that said though, I have tried machines that are entirely lacking in various respects that my abilities can make up for or I just don't care to do that. The key for me is where to draw the line. ABS brakes enough? Or six modes for every variance in road surface needed too? Or do I need to enroll in training somewhere instead? Lots of choices...