Why Count Dooku Isn’t A True Sith! 😱

Why is Count Dooku not really a true Sith?
And don’t get me wrong!
Dooku is 100% a Sith but he had other plans that didn’t follow what a traditional Sith would have done!
See, Count Dooku decided to leave the Jedi Order cuz he thought they were losing their way as peacekeepers and cared more about politics.
So leaving that part of his life behind, Dooku was approached by Darth Sidious offering him a chance to become his apprentice in order to build a better galaxy!
This sounded great to Dooku cuz he only wanted to improve the galaxy!
And he saw that joining with Palpatine was the only path to what he says is make a, “Pure Civilisation.”
But of course, Sidious lied to Dooku and eventually sacrificed him like he was nothing!
But Dooku did have good intentions even if he did bad things along the way to try and reach his goal.
And he wasn’t as selfish as other Sith and didn’t have Sith eyes cuz he was motivated by philosophical and political goals rather than rage and conquest!

[@TonyFett66]

Count dooku was like the most based character in Star Wars.

[@jordanbarnhart8548]

Except for all the war crimes

[@scientistmilorad9735]

​@@jordanbarnhart8548 They make him more even based

[@InsaneAwesomeTony]

​@@scientistmilorad9735*cantina music stops*

[@InsaneAwesomeTony]

Count Dooku was also a human supremesist

[@kardona_3]

When he left the Order, yes. Afterwards… Not so much.

[@NineSeptims]

Slavery existed under jedi watch so he had a point.

[@scientistmilorad9735]

They are peacekeepers, not keepers of freedom

[@Highasamf]

@@scientistmilorad9735 well either way they completely failed at both

[@SithMenace]

Dooku literally supported slavery in the clone wars 💀

[@henocksherlock3340]

​@@SithMenacehe had an ally that happened to be slaver, he can't unfriend that easily because of how big the republic is

[@SithMenace]

@@henocksherlock3340 I'm talking about when he supported the slave queen in the clone wars, forgot which episode it was.

[@DarkSeraph95]

He also planned to double cross him as shown in attack of the clones

[@sausagethegodofcurry]

No. That wasn't the point of that scene. The point of that scene was that he was trying to manipulate obi-wan into joining the separatists by acting oblivious to their crimes. The scene is there to show that he's playing the exact same game as sidious.

[@Badblood226]

​@@sausagethegodofcurrynah dooku tried to break the rule of two multiple times in Canon most prominently with people like Savage opress asajj ventress And Quinlan Voss. In Legends he had a whole group of dark Jedi that followed him 🤣

[@johnhoran9840]

@@Badblood226 Obi-Wan was Qui-Gon's padawan, and Dooku would have loved to take him as his Sith apprentice. Part of him already thought of Obi-Wan as a grandson. You're right that Dooku hoped together they could eventually kill Sidious and take the galaxy.

[@corruptangel6793]

​@sausagethegodofcurry George himself confirmed that Dooku was trying to make Obi-Wan his apprintace. That scene was the prequel equivalent of Vader trying to recruit Luke in ESB

[@johnhoran9840]

@@corruptangel6793 Dooku didn't entirely share his master's views, but he knew he couldn't take him alone. Your take is an intriguing one.

[@brianjackson1541]

Darth maul did call this man a sith pretender

[@LawTzuTao]

And he was told by his master that he was replaced. The only reason Maul survived is because Sidious wanted Talsin. In that case, Maul was the pretender.

[@joshualawrence5253]

After all these years, this actually makes sense. Dooku was the most honorable in the Clone Wars. In his own reasons

[@musiqueaccount2344]

did we watch the same show

[@keionchua6777]

​@@musiqueaccount2344probably not hahahaha

[@tonynelligan1930]

true but we can say the same for hitler and stalin.

[@Gamerprice40]

Honestly Dooku has always been more concerned with political ideals than anything else. This is why Dooku would eventually fail as a Jedi and why he would’ve never been truly loyal to the ways of the Sith. His main concern has always been with political corruption and government across the galaxy, this is why he left the Jedi

[@GamesforCykits]

I feel like he’s kind of like starkiller in the sense that he isn’t truly evil just lead by the wrong people and used

[@Bumbulers_Bricks]

We can add General Grievous to that list as well, at least going with the legends version of him.

[@kacperaskawski3461]

​@@Bumbulers_Bricks in canon he is Pure evil, in Legends he is close, but still retained just enough honor and is motivated slightly by his tragedy, however still is extremly evil person.

[@LawTzuTao]

​@@kacperaskawski3461thank you. People ignore the atrocities he's responsible for. Not to mention, he also knew the Jedi would eventually be eliminated. So he also wanted them dead. He only didn't know his master would betray him.

[@151pyroblaze]

He left the order to leave politics to join the sith to deal with even more politics xD

[@Voidboi223]

He wanted politics wdym bro

[@hellstrom4209]

But Mundi called Dooku a political idealist before finding out he was a sith. Also, he was a Count. He just didn't agree with the politics of the Republic.

[@andresfurious8302]

⁠@@hellstrom4209not just the republic but also the Jedi he didn’t like how the Jedi where kneeling to the government all for what ?i think wealth and power who do you think maintained their Jedi ships they’re bills mace windus elecrum light saber ?

[@welcometothejungle3222]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@Adan11961]

Now i got to go listen to staind. Thanks

[@spiderjerusalem4009]

his motive has been to overthrow sidious ever since being his apprentice, also 20 years older than his master is

[@bradpaton3927]

He was a Dark Jedi, technically.

[@forbiddenmemez4786]

Dark jedi is really just an ambiguous term. though. I don't think anyone knows what it really means. Sometimes people just use it to refer to less powerful dark siders/ assassins trained under more powerful sith masters and other times a dark jedi is just a former jedi who turned to the dark side but don't adhere to sith philosophy. Considering Dooku did have formal apprenticeship under Sidious and adheres to sith philosophy as seen when he trains savage oppress, I would consider him a sith, albeit a more unconventional one.

[@WorgenGrrl]

"You wear the trappings of the Sith. You fight like the Sith. Yet these things can be imitated, however. You lack a vital quality found in all Sith. Sith have no fear. And I sense much in you." -- Count Dooku to Asajj Ventress

[@lewiszhou4056]

Count Dooku was fearless, but Ventress was probably more Sith in terms of motivation.

[@josku5]

Honestly that’s just wrong, since some sith do use fear as a means of power (for example Darth Thanatos in the old republic comics).

[@monsesh1316]

Sidius fears Vader.

[@MeanAndPristine]

@@josku5 just look at Maul, his fear of Sidious is what drives him but also what keeps him enslaved to the Dark Side

[@rickeyb8812]

BOY! That fight with a blinded Count Dooku against Ventress and the night sisters!

[@gobreen4391]

The road to hell is pathed with good intentions as the saying goes

[@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf]

U don’t need to comment just for the sake of commenting

[@toomberrebmoot9244]

Y’know who was also motivated by philosophical and political goals… Palpatine. Anyone who genuinely thinks Dooku wasn’t that evil have ironically fallen for the very persona he puts on throughout the Clone Wars era, also I’m pretty sure he had Sith eyes for brief flashes when torturing Savage. It just wasn’t in his best interest to flaunt them for intimidation, don’t want the Separatists thinking you’re a demon puppeting them😅.

[@spiderjerusalem4009]

He was just following old sith tradition. He just follows the road to overthrow sidious, so yeah not that bad

[@mariusconstantin6057]

Only when using the lightning since he had to give into anger to use it as well as the power of the DS

[@aidanvega9778]

Exactly my point! It seems he tricked people both in universe and in the Fandom

[@lacolem1]

Dooku is an complex character who deserved a lot more movie time

[@christophersanchez7731]

It’s relative The main maxim of the Sith is to pursue one’s passion Not all Sith are conquerors by motivation In Canon, Lord Momin was at heart an artist Despite all the havoc he done, at his core he’s an artist. Also while most Sith believe that the Force serves them. Momin believe in serving the Dark Side, not unlike how Jedi believe in serving the Force He followed his own passion, that motivated him to do all the horrible things he did to even after he died Dooku as Darth Tyranus is no different His passion was always to bring peace and order to the galaxy. And at least as a Jedi to serve the people of the Republic, as he believed Jedi were supposed to Dooku was both a Sith and a Jedi At his core, he never stopped believing in the Jedi’s goal to bring peace to the galaxy and serve the people He felt the Jedi lost their way and became pawns to a corrupt Republic that no longer deserves them Dooku became a Sith to fulfill his goal. To create an utopian autocratic Empire that would still the voices of corruption with its authority, as the flaw of democracy often gives voice to corruption He rather if Jedi led the galaxy, as their connection to the Force makes them enlightened and better equipped to lead If the Jedi can’t do it then the Sith would lead instead Besides ruling, Palpatine didn’t actually care for Dooku’s Utopia He didn’t care about the public good He wanted an Empire of sycophants that would worship and obey him for all eternity, and would use corrupt forces and nepotism to control his Empire Palpatine didn’t want to lead, he wanted everyone to follow Dooku wanted to lead and bring the greater good to the galaxy, and felt the Sith was the only path to achieve it Dooku didn’t have Sith eyes, because he controlled the Dark Side like a Jedi. He controlled his emotions, he rarely gives into rage. Because he’s in control, the Dark Side doesn’t really dominate him. He’s the closest thing in canon to a Grey Jedi or Sith. Kylo Ren didn’t have Sith eyes despite his emotional instability because he was between the Dark and Light and was torn apart by the conflict as reflected in his cracked saber. Unlike Dooku who was always in control of himself He died hoping that the Empire he helped build would bring Order to the galaxy which makes his fate tragic

[@lewiszhou4056]

In my opinion, Qui-Gon hadn't died on Naboo and he and Qui-Gon stayed together they could have changed the Jedi Order

[@rrgale55]

He died on his knees to the very corruption he set out to destroy. His last thoughts before Anakin ended him was his realization that Sidious had been playing him from day one. Ending with, "Treachery is the way of the Sith!!"

[@mathewkaiser7667]

"Why count dooku isn't a true sith. Now of course, he is a sith but-"

[@finalkutking3386]

And that’s why Dooku will always be the 🐐

[@Darknesss490]

This is one of most biggest misunderstanding in Star Wars. Dooku was just as selfish and evil as Maul. It is true that Dooku turned to the darkside because he saw it as a mean to a better society but he became corrupted by the darkside. In the times of the clone wars he lusted for power above all else and gained personal wealth from robbing systems. He was not better than any sith. As for the sith eyes I think he just hide it like Sidious did it. In clone wars we can see Dooku's sith eyes for a few times in moments when he intensively uses the darkside.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

Dooku cared not for wealth. The wealth and trappings of royalty were just for the benefit of wearing the mantle of Count and political leader. It is explained in Dooku: Jedi Lost that he actually doesn't care about riches.

[@aidanhelfrich4887]

As the old saying goes the pathway to hell is paved in good intentions

[@neverone986]

Dooku was how a Sith should be.

[@johncraftenworth7847]

like how Gandalf was Saruman, or how Saruman should have been...

[@212thbrickbattalion]

I never realized that he didn’t have Sith red eyes

[@istvantoth3775]

One of the coolest moments in Clone wars were, when Dooko had sith eyes a couple of times when he used force lighting

[@szybkizenek6292]

Dooku wasn t good character but not 100% bad. He was just weird but super cool

[@DeltaKi1o]

I feel like you could call him a gray sith

[@ItsHakuryu]

"The walk to hell is paved with good Intentions."

[@StefanWinchester]

Dooku was a fallen twisted jedi but ultimately he still had jedi decipline and saw his sith ways as a means to an end that he saw as noble. He didn't have the bloodlust and raw ambition indicative of true sith.

[@rrgale55]

Oh yes, he did!! BLOOD LUST: Geonosis, massacre of the Jedi in the Arena. The orders he gave to Greivous, Ventress, and other Separatist Leaders to commit Genocide. Assassination attempt on Jabba's son. AMBITION: Becoming the Apprentice to Darth Sidious. Becoming the Leader of the Separatists (CIS). And planning on killing Sidious once the Empire was created. You might argue that giving orders to underlings doesn't qualify as blood lust. In that regard, that would mean Sidious isn't a true Sith, considering he picked up the communicator and said, "Execute Order 66" having the clones do the actual killing. This was the Rule of Two Sith. Everything had to be done from the shadows with great cunning and great secrecy. Traits that both Sidious and Dooku performed brilliantly.

[@Swissswoosher]

He left for a good reason, and he was right in the end. But he got corrupted by the dark side’s power. Though he rarely fully tapped into it.

[@Ace2014Ace]

He also did NOT kill the person he cared about most, which is the final step to be considered a true sith.

[@mug9591]

6:36 “¿Homo Estás?”🤣🤣🤣

[@rxoopsie2600]

The thing is, Dooku was pretty much just misunderstood.

[@rrgale55]

Hmmmm...I wonder if we can apply that to Sidious or maybe even Hitler.

[@rxoopsie2600]

@rrgale55 dude wtf no wtaf did you just say...

[@rrgale55]

@@rxoopsie2600 Exactly!!

[@skywolfx76]

true, the old Republic was disgustingly corrupt long before the clonewars and Dooku knew it

[@Eric6761]

Btw he had sith eyes however he didn't had all time Because he wasn't entirely on the dark side like Maul or Sidious

[@user-qg2gy5lg4g]

You can make an argument that any Sith we see on screen aren't true Sith, but they still are.

[@WebCam-dj5kz]

He was like Thanos, only did the bad things to gain good things.

[@whitefox3189]

So Dooku is basically a Grey Jedi.

[@LawTzuTao]

1. Lord Tyrannus was a Sith. There's no argument. He received his name. If you officially receive your name as a Dark Lord, you are Sith. 2. He has Sith eyes throughout TCW.

[@amentogod]

perfectly said lol

[@jordanglasper1064]

Right. I understand he wants to give more information throughout the video. But the title is a huge misdirect. And it’ll lead the fan base those who don’t know definitely in the wrong direction.

[@bradleyward8013]

Whether you think Darth Vader is the best Sith or not. I honestly think Dooku had the best Sith name. TYRANUS!!! Like what a name that’s hardly spoken across the movies or animated series 😮 perfect name for someone that will spread tyranny

[@LawTzuTao]

@@bradleyward8013 I agree.

[@Texan8505]

Dooku wasn’t a bad guy, nor was he broken. He just had beliefs that the Republic was corrupt, and he was right

[@michaelsouslin891]

He was actually the smart one out of Maul, him, and Sidious. Sidious was too obsessed with power and control while Maul was too controlled by his anger from how he was raised and trained. Dooku was able to control his own emotions and become like an almost sith version of Qui-Gon. He showed a lot pf strength if you really think about it and realize that he joined Sidous for years and nvr became a full sith while Anakin did within days of betraying Mace as shown by his eyes on Mustafar after he kills the separatist leaders.

[@cloviscagle3795]

I believe dooku was following one of the most literally interpretation’s of the road to hell was paved with good intentions

[@matthewbooth9457]

He had his own agenda

[@arcticfox1108]

Of all Sith in Star Wars canon, I feel like Dooku had the most justified intentions of them all

[@AHSValor]

Tfw Dooku may have been the only Sith to use force lightening with a sense of benevolence and purpose in his heart instead of anger

[@briansransom]

Same could be said for Darth Vader. All he wanted was to control the outcomes of everything.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Well, Darth Vader brings up “Power to the Dark Side” throughout the Original Trilogy any Star Wars book, or comic, or game related to that trilogy. So I hardly call Vader not a true Sith when he basically is.

[@briansransom]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios yes that’s true. My point was that Anakin Skywalker was always trying to save everyone and control everything and he thought if he had enough power that he would be able to, and that’s what led him to the dark side. The emperor was different, he just wanted power for the sake of control, and he was pure evil. Darth Vader started out with altruistic intentions. I think it’s a real eye-opening concept about altruism.

[@Acheesecak]

Count Dooku was someone who embraced the dark side of the force but simply didn't let it consume him

[@wastrelperv]

What show/episode was that Ahsoka clip from? She looked very different there.

[@ye_clapped_6974]

Best character in SW hands down disagree all you want

[@johncraftenworth7847]

obi wan is the greatest military mastermind. wish he had been the one to duel palpatine and not yoda due to his unmatched saber skills, but I guess due to his limited force power he would have needed a 2 on 1 in such a situation

[@DarthPorg668]

Dooku was one of few truly good characters

[@EpicAdrian3D]

Dooku apologist has entered the chat

[@djstone9578]

Count Dooku may be the only sith who wasn't evil

[@magicmaqwa]

-leaves jedi order because they became to political -becomes a politician

[@scottb7539]

The road ro Hell is paved with good intentions.

[@extaslash7077]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

[@corruptangel6793]

Ends justifying the means is absolutely a traditional Sith aspect. Countless sith became Sith because of "good" intentions

[@tamaoyukimura4596]

There are more ways to be sith then jedi- Some random person

[@-CT-9904-]

Dooku as emperor would have made for a much safer galaxy

[@victoriathorne8252]

I love being the daughter of Count Dooku & Mother Gothel

[@BlueSniper-nv2tx]

He's one of my favorite characters. Dooku didn't hate the Jedi but the Republic. It would have been better for Dooku to just be a Dark Jedi and not affiliate himself with the Sith at all. He would have accomplished more had he not joined with Sidious.

[@johncraftenworth7847]

his force power is really strong. a great duelist but not as great as Obi Wan, who never lost a saber duel. had to take out obi wan with force power. this is why obi wan was wise to do a 2 on 1 teaming with Anakin.

[@GamingBot90]

He had sith eyes in the clones wars

[@zacharyknight3012]

In the sifodias episode he had red south eyes

[@zacharyknight3012]

I hate auto correct

[@GamingBot90]

@@zacharyknight3012 all good lol

[@TheCirclekeeper]

I feel like unlike most sith who draw from anger fear and hatred Dooku drew from pride. In the end in consumed him entirely sadly.

[@juriyjura6992]

When I watched the Clone Wars as a kid, I always supported the Confederacy, every episode I waited for CIS to win and every time I was sad when they lost. And so it has been for 6 seasons.

[@Triplebrc]

Also the stupid old goat was loyal to his master even to his own detriment, that alone makes him unqualified to be viewed as a sith.

[@semtexshawty]

Dooku was the biggest chad imo

[@rodenconsolacion1655]

What music do you use and really want to know?

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

It’s why I think Dooku was more of a Tragic Villain than a normal bad guy. He actually had reasons to stop the Republic, it’s just that like everyone in the Clone Wars, they were puppets so that a Dark Space Wizard could become the king of space.

[@hajde8128]

The Jedi had child soldiers. Ahsoka was only 14 and made her a commander in the clone wars. I really hate the way nobody in universe explicitly says how the Jedi are corrupt, instead they just dance around it making it seem like they're overreacting

[@DinoLoverGaming]

Dooku was an antivillain

[@moeglados5182]

If Count Dooku was a real sith then everybody should have called him with his sith name but nope both side light and sith called him dooku that shows he is not original sith he pretended to be sith because dooku was able to control his emotions that's why he never fall to the dark side he used sith as a shield to hide his plans and himself

[@corruptangel6793]

Sith control their emotions. The only difference between them and Jedi is jedi control their emotions to remain calm and make the right decisions, while Sith harness their emotions and use them as a weapon to fuel their power. Sidious did call Dooku by his Sith name. At every turn.

[@alecjackman2655]

The reason the Jedi didn’t call him by his Sith name was because they didn’t find out he was Darth Tyranus till the end of the war. Whenever Palpatine is in his Sidious’s persona he always refers to Dooku as Tyranus. The other separatist didn’t call him that because he had a public image to maintain where if the galaxy found out Dooku was a Sith his persona of reasonable noblemen would be ruined.

[@rrgale55]

"Good is a point of view, Anakin. Who says that a person who looks outward [Jedi] sees more than a person who looks inward [Sith]." -ROTS Novel

[@James-kv3ll]

Ayo wtf he mean by “pure”

[@jrw2electricboogaloo411]

Oh he is he's just not evil

[@VoidMaster99]

In my opinion he was more a Dark Jedi than a Sith

[@joshuashields8512]

Dooku didn’t have sith eyes I think he was a double agent

[@magnusaarsland9421]

A somwhat nobel darksider whit a lithside goal

[@matheuspereira-eu9fx]

The sith code talks about freedom,so not choosing to follow sith doctrine actually make you a good sith

[@PatrickWentzell-jd9gq]

what would happen if Dooku stayed on the coucil ? sooner or later I'm sure they might have picked up on the fact Dooku seen the council not helping the galaxy always but let's not forget politics has many flaws too .

[@Danielathan]

Count Dooku wasn't a true sith because he was never officially knighted, nor did he follow the path of the dark side.

[@user-rn2nk2eu5e]

That and he’s a dark jedi

[@quieness]

"Good intentions" is a very debatable statement lmao Lets just say he was less "selfserving" than a traditional sith xd

[@bloodoftheunicorns2621]

If we’re being honest how many Sith truly follow the Code of the Sith. The goal of the Sith code is to be forever free. Everything else is in service of that purpose. Count Dooku is the closest thing to a true Sith we see in live action.

[@bluepiretfox8330]

Then why does he have a red ligth saber then a purple one?

[@chocolatebar6785]

bleeding a crystal out doesn’t require you to be a sith as we see with kylo maybe if count dooku didn’t bleed his crystal then his crystal could’ve turned purple though its rare

[@brenscott5416]

Sith eyes have nothing to do with motivations of a person, they are related to how engulfed by the darkseid they are

[@reubenthenerd1815]

So among the sith, you wouldn't COUNT Dooku

[@enderjammer5035]

He may have started out trying to do the right thing when he first joined Sidious, but the dark side corrupts and eventually he did become tyrannical, like his sith name, Tyranus

[@cheftristone6414]

The road of atrocities is paved with "good intentions."

[@GeneralKenobiYouAreABold1]

Count Dooku is a very based character.

[@aliriad6392]

We all are sorry for you byllan skoll We was think you are evil

[@Kinessmata-Akkadian]

He did bad things, but Dooku was as definitely a more Anti-hero type. The road to Hell is often paved with good intentions after all.

[@isaacyoder4137]

People don't understand that the Sith are only one particular order of dark siders, just as the Jedi are only one order of light siders. The Sith way is not the only way to use the dark side. So no, Dooku was a dark sider who allied with Sith, but himself was not one. He didn't lust for power. However, had he been given more time alive and more success in his goals, the Sith way might've seduced him and turned him into the tyrant that Palpatine became.

[@sausagethegodofcurry]

Yes. But he still wanted the galaxy to be ruled under an empire that purged the galaxy of aliens and was more than willing to lie steal and kill to achieve it. I don't see how that's selfless in any way. The only difference is that he was more subtle and elegant when trying to trick people into thinking he was selfless. And for some reason, a lot of fans actually seem to fall for it despite the fact that both the movies and the clone wars, as well as a bunch of novels explicitly stating that his whole "I'm not as selfish as the other sith" shtick was an act.

[@philipmartin3411]

Except if was revealed in fhe bad batch that he was very much a sith and Terrible to his own world, and clone wars he definitely was full blown sith

[@user-vj8ym]

Becoming Luke and I wonder what’s it’s like being count dookoo trying to become god is like ?

[@dancooke8811]

No Dooku is a Dark Jedi Master

[@user-hc7in9pb7y]

Master the dark side

[@ckcsheridan736]

I love Dooku, one of best Lucasverse character

[@marekhajd]

to me Count Dooku was a true grey jedi🤗

[@user-rc7ps6im1x]

杜咕伯爵

[@chanman2746]

Dooku: Leaves Jedi order for losing their way and caring more about politics of war which was actually created by Palpatine aka Darth Sidious. Also Dooku: Joins Darth Sidious aka Palpatine to assist with creating and fighting in the war. 🤨🤨🤨 I just realized this…

[@JogoVR]

Maul and dooku are both so based

[@stacygames4684]

So he left the Jedi Order because they got too much on politics. And yet hes one of the steongest politicians in the galaxy

[@D_To_The_J]

Wasn't he racist though. His pure civilization meant only human like aliens should lead/be alive the rest were beneath them.