WHY CREATIVITY IS DEAD | Jacque fresco

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Love is bullsh*t Jacque fresco
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Arguments for:
love is bullshit
even living with a copy of yourself would be impossible
definition of creativity
people cannot think outside of their culture
originality is impossible
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[@ruairi7804]

Your cultural zone doesn't mean just your country, it includes the books you read, the internet, what you see on tv, the stories you hear, immigrants. A person who grows up in nazi Germany who has no outside influence other than nazi propaganda will become a nazi. There could be an entire alien society somewhere in the universe that thinks and acts completely different than we do but we can not think like them because it is outside of our cultural zone, just like how the rest of the world is outside the cultural zone of an eskimo. That's why the internet is so brilliant as it creates a global cultural zone and it knocks down the cultural walls between different countries and areas. Also check out Jacque Fresco's The Venus Project it is very interesting and thought provoking

[@apostolrobert5810]

Brian Kelly indeed it's impossible to think outside your own culture, but at the same time you define your culture by the choices you make . I don't believe that creativity is fake, you can find it in its purest way in abstract art , same goes for science most of the times we just experiment with the unknown to discover and create new things

[@nadeemshaikh7863]

Apostol Robert define 'fake'?

[@TommyAlberts]

What he is saying is we don't create anything it's already all there, combined with variables we explore and find inventive ways to use what is already in existence. Extremely subjective to cultural choices and social conditioning, how we perceive anything. Also, I believe he does this to get people to think for themselves. Like any forward thinker, opinions are not set in stone, it set with evidence. He saying he can't find any evidence of real creativity by actual definition.

[@nadeemshaikh7863]

Tommy Alberts what is the actual definition of 'creativity' then?

[@TommyAlberts]

Creativity is a phenomenon whereby something new and somehow valuable is formed. Fresco explained that already in this vid even.

[@samdeur]

after watching this and your previous post "HOW ABUNDANCE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD" i decided to subscribe .. love the way you approached the idea of perhaps total change of society embracing it shows me that your not limited to one view but keeping an open mind not surprising that your a well educated individual that is still developing himself my compliments. i'm a 40+ it nurd and doing the same going back to school later on this year hahaha...Greetings from The Netherlands ...keep up the good work and good luck with your studies.. ..i have to get back to mine.. also got certification exams in a couple of weeks..

[@JonasBjerg]

Im honoured! I'll do my best to live up to your subscription :D Good luck with the studies then! I hope to be able to do the same when I get to your level of experience :D Again thank you!

[@ruairi7804]

Search THE VENUS PROJECT on KZbin

[@zenithwong4725]

Jacque fresco man of practical man. what he point out has basic laws of understanding and world perseption that may be classed as world dynamics view that not bound by moral and judgemental bias. other perspective brings paradigm view and culture and locals brings new set of world rules. what we percieve as creative is just a fiction of human understanding. might bluntly say we steal from nature and slap our name on thing that we precieve as [creative] and [new invention]. really kind of sad for human.

[@bastiat6865]

He did not say it's impossible to think outside one's culture, he said we can't, that there's no way to do it. I think that is an observational proclamation. He is saying what *is*, currently. For his proclamation to be negated, we would have to look at what the limitations of culture *are* and then look at *how* cultural norms influence how we think. For example, a cultural norm in America, is that Osama Bin Laden was the architect of the action where two planes flew into the WTC in 2001. This cultural norm is ENFORCED. Anyone who questions that narrative is ridiculed and attacked. People who attempt to find an more encompasing set of facts outside that cultural norm of an argument are not necessarily thinking outside of the norm, they are fighting the norm, to validate a *different* norm as the standard narrative. So, we are still being constricted to the cultural paradigm. I don't even know what it would look like to be outside of that culturally restricted narrative....That the planes were actually manifestations of Quetzlcoatl and the towers were his enemies from the underground? Fundamentally, before we can successfully negate his observation, we MUST, catalog ALL of the characteristics that define cultural, and determine, in what circumstances have we gone outside the norm.

[@MISTRYVIRAL]

It does make sense. he didnt explain the invention of film to capture the inverted image and then print it. He didn't explain invention of electricity. What reference did thought process take use to accidentaly invent film and electricity.

[@fhhfhdfdhhdhhdfhdf138]

A flip-book is an interesting thing to look into to see where film came from. Electricity was discovered, use the internet to read about these things if ur interested

[@Iskender1]

Your thumbnail spells reason wrong. Might want to correct. Otherwise think your latest videos are very good. Your new thumbnail designs are good. Titles are catchy.

[@matjazonline]

hmm, you can think outside the box, but there's infinite number of box layers😜 For most things that are creative we probably don't think of all connections in conscious mind and maybe that's the first, most obvious box we are looking at. AI could some day help us track the connections. Interesting videos & good luck with exams🙌

[@YouAlwaysNeedFD]

Held og lykke med det hele, du burde se noget med Michael Tellinger. Jeg tror det ville interessere dig.

[@JonasBjerg]

Tusind tak! :) Det får jeg lige kigget på ;)

[@SnazzBot]

Just if this was true cultures would always stagnant.

[@JonasBjerg]

He is very pessimistic :P You might be right :D

[@TheBachelor916]

Wouldn't people have to be stagnate too for the culture to stagnate? I bet a case can be made for a variety of times when cultures have stagnated to a degree and especially in small cultures like the Norther Alaskan he made reference to but overall in the long term they should generally evolve.

[@JonasBjerg]

It an interesting point! I think you might be right :D Culture must move forward somehow :)

[@ruairi7804]

Jonas Bjerg Your cultural zone doesn't mean just your country, it includes the books you read, what you see on the internet, what you see on tv and the stories you hear. All of this is included in your environment and it shapes how you think. These are the things that help culture to evolve. No one can think outside of their environment. If you are never exposed to Christianity or Islam, you can never become a Christian or a Muslim. No one on earth speaks their own language. You can not think like an extraterrestrial alien as it is outside of your cultural zone and environment. Free will doesn't exist, it only appears to exist. A person doesn't even have free will over their thoughts. All your actions are the sum of your genetics, your environment and random events. Also check out Jacque Fresco's The Venus Project it is very interesting and thought provoking

[@ruairi7804]

Jonas Bjerg If everyone had the exact same environment, ideas and mindset and never let anything change them then society would stagnate. Conflicting ideas from different environments and different perspectives is what makes society grow, or become something worse as was the case with Nazi Germany and other countries in history

[@rwgamer]

3:48 Start of Jacque Fresco.

[@JonasBjerg]

I'm sorry if it was it too much of an intro :) Felt I had a lot to get off my chest :P

[@icjr2352]

Jacque will make you 'think always the beauty of the man 'wow 101 that's an omen in itself! Thanks Jacque FAYD!... may your fruit trees and trees of shade continued to grow and florish.

[@AlexGogan]

One of the great things of the about Internet is that it allows an open mind to be expanded. This also includes your cultural references. On the flip side if your closed minded then it only will reinforce the blinkered vision, especially with Google, Facebook AI's presenting data in your feed that you search for... Then that's all you will ever see.

[@JonasBjerg]

I like your approach! How do we expand our cultural sphere? By education ourselves with other cultures, either through the internet or through physical experiences with other cultures :D Brilliant!

[@AlexGogan]

I have been on the net now for years, since the start and I have seen the "community" evolve and morph to something different. At the beginning when we were chatting in IRC, PowWow and Web Chat there was the local identifiers, then this moved up to City/State identifiers then to Countries. Back then trolls were crushed, but since the advent of the "Social" revolution it has brought about a disjoint that is so fractured and the "tribalism of the brand" (Writing a lengthily piece on this at the moment) that to be honest from a social sense it is bringing about the dystopian nightmare that a lot of SciFi writers wrote about. This more than anything with the delivery of content that our Googles and Facebook masters think we like are only turning us into a global society with a myopic view. This could truly affect the cultural influences on humanity in a negative way. I am not a pessimistic person, I am one of those who would look up in the sky to see a nuclear bomb coming down and think that there will be a problem with the fuser unit. So I am hoping that the Powers that be will adjust their Machine Learning algorithms to inject some other types of content as this will allow over time a more balanced point of view. Don't get me wrong I know that the myopic view has been around before the Internet was mainstream but its only been amplified to the n'th degree with the advance of the net.

[@transientconduit]

I'm really, truly proud of you. You are a beautiful human being. Keep going! Please keep inspiring. Thank you so much for existing.

[@bernzeppi]

Actually it was Faraday who discovered induction. YT has a lot to answer for for giving Tesla credit when it it wasn’t due. Actually it kind of proves Tesla stole all his ‘ideas’ which he did, but not from his mum. He stole radio from Marconi, polyphase motor from Galileo Ferraris , digital algebra from Boole, claimed to have invented polyphase power which was already in use in Europe when he was flunking university... the list goes on.

[@therealKINDLE]

Jacque is still relevant in a world where everyone else seems to be a product of their culture. He is 100% correct, which is why it worries me so much. Because very few people like yourselves have gone out of their way to discover these things. Very sad what has happened to humanity. =(

[@kolea666666]

And now think about copyright, which is based not on the logic and origins of what we call creativity as Jacques correctly described, but on the satisfaction of human ignorance and the "protection" of the rights of the "creator" (author), which, in turn, is not even his fault because of the lack of information, they believe that they themselves invented everything and it came out of their heads. If you want to know my opinion, I think copyright is nonsense based on ignorance. I think that we look at the same thing differently and if you have the necessary skills, someone It doesn’t express it (for example in art) and sometimes this “angle” (looking at this thing of this person) we like and it’s great everyone has the potential, but to ascribe to himself the merits of such a big word as “creator” (who allegedly created something from nothing that is not true) means to manifest stupidity and ignorance.

[@Csanchez-sq1rh]

This is an amazing video, you are a great youtuber brother! I see you doing great things on this platform in these next few months!! Btw, I honestly think yoiur cultural reference/zone does play a big role on a persons actions, behavior, personality. It also has to do with the way you view life through the books you've read, the news you wish to see/hear, whether you focus on the good or the bad that is happening in the world. Just how he used the example of the eskimo, our environment does affect our perspective on life.

[@szym1]

Love the vidoes because they aggregate interesting content. Personal touch is nice but please don't make those videos about you. It is not why peaople are watching them. You have good taste and you save our time, that is your value proposition. 30% of personal stuff is more than enough. Great work!

[@stevenewsom3269]

So... determinism, yes? Anyway, creativity comes from the subconscious. That's why it's so hard to describe where it comes from.

[@MrSergeycapry]

Avoiding ordinary harmony to make comfort living till you die, new game of new useless toy's .Jacgue didn't have enough time to express.

[@waydeclarke5349]

Firstly thank you for taking the time to create this content, I wish you all the success in whatever you are trying to accomplish. I would have to agree with Mr. Fresco, I believe all ideas come for an inspiration and not from the barrenness of the mind, at least in my opinion. As far as culture goes we are now enabled in this era of technology to experience many cultures at once increasing inspiration, which will come with arguable negatives and positives.

[@JonasBjerg]

Well put! :D And thank you so much for watching and joining the conversation!

[@aliveluckygambit3507]

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[@Johnmatrixx81]

Hello =) I have one question for you. How can we prove without doubt, that there is no chance in the idea of that we can be the outcome of a "Terminator Judgement day" scenario, where our self, in fact are the machines evolved in a distant future ?

[@JonasBjerg]

Elon Musk actually talked a great deal about a similar concept. He concludes that we cannot prove that we dont live in a simulation :)

[@ZombieJohn]

Actual content starts about halfway thru vid :)

[@elbeejackson4124]

I " think" you're on to something. I'm down.

[@diedzful]

Keep going Brother. I like vlogumentary. Follow your dreams (L) knowledge is always the way to power and power can get you out of poverty

[@JonasBjerg]

Thanks champ! :D We need to have the important conversations, otherwise we wont learn and improve! :D

[@diedzful]

Jonas Bjerg you are right. I hope that Europe will have a good future. I give you my luck because you are openminded en you have power to vlog yourself. I hope maybe in the future we can meet because i will want you to give my wisdom in how my life will go. I wanna start a youngster amateur art club for the local youngster.

[@presenttruthfutureperfect]

I certainly believe I have thought outside my box. It took my life to implode first, but it triggered a totally new understanding of how the world/life evolves.

[@JonasBjerg]

Very interesting! And scary to hear about your lifeimplosion :/ Hope all is good now!

[@pauloemartins]

i think creative is an error process

[@JonasBjerg]

I very well might be! But I think thats part of the beauty :D

[@thomassutherland5188]

Jonas your success is eminent. Blogimentry works. Bloginomics another one. Creativity is moving past dead structure into living form. We discover the new by listening to the unknown. We can put 2and2 together to find our 4.

[@JonasBjerg]

Thank you so incredibly much for the humbling experience the last 24 hours have been! Let me know what you think about vlogumentary ! :D

[@AlexGogan]

Jonas Bjerg I like it, but have this feeling that I have seen it before, but then if it catches on because of this, then you own it >:~}

[@JonasBjerg]

I don't need to own it, I care more about the conversations they spark! :D

[@danielzinho12]

Jonas, Please give an example of you thinking outside of your culture/background? (you mentioned towards the end of this video that it is possible) Thanks!

[@dalnk]

Creativity is surely dead if i can start a channel with just one phone and using only kinemaster

[@JonasBjerg]

I think Einstein thought outside of his culture when he came up with relativity, I think newton thought outside of his culture when he thought of gravity and defined it. I realise they are extreme examples, but they kinda have to be, it's super hard not to only think in terms of your existing knowledge, experience or culture :)

[@zzz2628]

Not one person on the walkway was taller than you, how tall are you? :o

[@JonasBjerg]

Haha :'D Didn't even think about that! I'm about 187 (about 6.2 i think)

[@zzz2628]

I didn't notice it quite at first but then it just caught on. Haha! Well, your editing is awesome. This channel will blow up soon and I am on board with 'vlogumentary'. Make more of this and it'll surely become a thing. All the best, mate! :D

[@JonasBjerg]

Thank you so so much Anmol! :D

[@TheBachelor916]

Why no explanation as to why you think what you think? Why do you think Jacque didn't take that into consideration? Always glad to see someone promoting this man and would love to see more.

[@JonasBjerg]

That would have been a wonderful addition, yes :D I honestly think he cares a little bit too much about the attention it brings when he talk the way he does :)

[@TheBachelor916]

I'm not following what you mean, can you expand? It seems like youre saying that you think Jacque cares too much about the attention the way he talks brings, how accurate is that?

[@JonasBjerg]

Ahh sorry, replied a bit too quickly :) I think he likes to say extreme stuff, so in my opinion he puts it on a little thick :) (Sometimes!) I still think his logic is solid though !

[@TheBachelor916]

Jonas Bjerg I can understand that. He is very passionate in his desire to get across the info in a way ppl can understand it which can be easiest when using extremes as examples because it seems most ppl understand them. It would be nice to see more nuance afterwards to show variations which might be more relevant to his audience's reality. Thx for the reply.

[@JonasBjerg]

Very well put! :D

[@curiousgeorge555]

He's leaving out a factor. The unseen realm.

[@fhhfhdfdhhdhhdfhdf138]

you mean like inside a black hole?

[@brucejones1123]

Without trying to inflate your ego :-) Vlogamentary has been done. KZbinrs watch your vids for your ideas, your choices and your view of the world. You find interesting vids I'd never of seen. So how about Jonamentary. Do it, do it!! :-)

[@JonasBjerg]

Haha :P I will not be ballsy enough to put my own name in the damn thing :P But you are right there's a movie about youtube called vlogumentary :)

[@brucejones1123]

Hmmm, My last try! :-) We like your vids and you like discussion = Sociomentary?

[@JonasBjerg]

Uhh I'll have to think about that one :D