Why Darth Nihilus is WAY Weaker Than You Realize - Star Wars Explained

[@Liquorice_Monster]

I think what's always made Nihilus so captivating is that he's not even really a person, he's kind of just a...thing. He hasn't even got a body under his mask and robes, he's this facless, voiceless, insatiable thing that cannot be reasoned with or bargained with.

[@VincentJaconski]

He's a soul embodied by the Darkside, no physical form under the robes, just a dark shadow, kinda like Sauron, in " LOTR "

[@GodisGod777]

The fact that Nihilus is basically Sith Galactus alone can be exploited as a weakness under the right circumstances.

[@aliastheabnormal]

So KoToR could have been avoided if the Fantastic four showed up?

[@chancemeyers8502]

​@aliastheabnormal Reed Richards is a Genius lol

[@Force_user57]

Trained force sensitives can shield themselves from force drain or cut him of from the Force.These jedi secrets were lost when Exar Kun raided Ossus which is why no one could go against Nihilus 'He only had the chance of circumstance during his time.

[@benanderson3784]

Try him with Starkiller or Vader

[@vic5015]

Or Unicron from Transformers.

[@carlborneke8641]

Kreia herself summed up the nature of his power. “It rules him, not the other way around.”

[@troylawson1902]

Exactly

[@Palemagpie]

It's weird Kreia wasn't all in on him honestly. I mean she wanted to kill the force right? Like as a concept. Suck it dry, or damage it to the existent that it would never recover? Welp, the garbage shredder shaped hole in the force seems like a pretty good bet for that. You wouldn't even need him to do anything. Dump him on a barren rock in space. Eventually his hunger would consume him and put a pretty permanent dent into the force.

[@jemiahpenzien3668]

@@Palemagpie She also wanted someone who could truly reject the force Nihilus was dominated by it.

[@tarotreadingsbysteven8545]

​@@Palemagpiethe important thing to note is she wanted to destroy the force because she saw it as responsible for the woes of the galaxy. Letting Nihilist run unrestrained would kill the force sure, but also everything else along with it so at that point what would be the point

[@BourneFreeATL]

This dude is terrifyingly powerful. The way video says that without saying it is peculiar work.

[@toxicgracie3772]

@@BourneFreeATL The scary part is that only a wound in the force can stop "him". And as he consumes more, "he" becomes more powerful. If it weren't for the Jedi Exile... What would've happened to the universe???

[@austinkersey2445]

​@@toxicgracie3772 No, he can be stopped by beings other than Wounds in the Force. The idea that he can only be defeated by other Wounds was never stated in the games or in any associated media. Meetra was more of a direct counter to Nihilus, and was powerful enough with Visas to actually kill him. There are plenty of characters who can beat Nihilus that aren't Wounds. Anakin, Dooku, Palpatine, Krayt, Caedus, Kyle Katarn, and Luke to name a few. His Force Drain isn't some unbeatable trump card, but it is unique. The best ways to get around it are to either be a Wound yourself (in the case of Meetra) or be more powerful. You can also find a defense against Force Drain on the level of Nihilus' like Anakin and Dooku did. There just wasn't anybody more powerful than Nihilus at the time because the KOTOR era Sith are generally weaker than some of their predecessors (namely the Ancient Sith like Naga Sadow, who the director of KOTOR 2 outright stated was more powerful than Nihilus) and their successors (the Rule of Two). The Sith Triumvirate, Revan, and Malak are the exception to the rule for their era. Even then Revan and Malak are the only two who are considered all-time hall-of-famers as far as power and skill goes.

[@Force_user57]

The reason only a wound in the force could do it is because the secret of how to shield yourself from force drain or cut of someone from the force was lost when Exar Kun destroyed Ossus otherwise the average jedi master or Knight would have ratioed Nihilus.Nihilus is so overrated because most people are casual fans and don't know the lore.Most are simply too lazy to read the novels,comics or simply play the games.

[@Force_user57]

Naga Sadow wasnt more powerful than the rule of two sith,Darth Bane is stated to have surpassed all the ancient dark lords.The main reason they seem more powerful is because the Dark side was stronger in bygone eras.If any rule of two sith time traveled to the Naga Sadow era,they would wipe the floor with everyone simply because there was more dark side energy in the Galaxy.That is why rule of two sith have lacked the talent for sith sorcery.

[@toxicgracie3772]

@@austinkersey2445 ohhhh ok thank you for the information! From what I've seen and heard (and I even beat KOTOR 2) I always thought only a wound in the force could stop him. But now that I remember, didn't Visas cut her tie with the Force whilst Nihilus was trying to drain her? And that weakened Nihilus? Or am I remembering that boss battle wrong? Because that would also be an option, albeit a last resort one. And also, how easy is it to even cut the force off??? I can't imagine that's something one could do willy nilly. Not even sure how Visas did it but I haven't played KOTOR 2 in a while

[@cybzer0560]

Nihilus is the character in a RPG that has medium combat skills, but MAX intimidation.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

This is hands down the best and most accurate description of him I've seen

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Each playthrough I did in KOTOR 2, I took him out pretty quickly. It was disappointing to me because I had such high expectations for him

[@neusyns]

Idk bro. If u have an attack that can drop someone who is literally staying alive because of their pain... That's tuff

[@BD-Helldroid]

and investing all his damage perks into his Drain ability to make it as potent as possible

[@dimitri8954]

@@neusynsthat’s Darth Scion

[@Benkinjo9419]

I will never be able to not watch videos about Darth Nihilus. Everytime i see that mask on the screen my thumb gets force pulled.

[@bekindrewind15]

What has always made Nihilus scary was never his strength. It's always been his endless hunger that even after his death continues to haunt the galaxy.

[@robertstrong6798]

He might be a one shot pony but he eliminates 99.9% of the field with that one trick !

[@BlairsVaultOfStarsAndDreams]

Who's to say that he wouldn't have eventually learned how to feed off ambient force energy, if Nihilus had continued to exist? There's some speculation that he just didn't know how to do it, not that he *couldn't* do it at all. It's also entirely possible that was part of what his former apprentice/servant VM was holding back, was the knowledge of how to feed off of ambient force energy.

[@BD-Helldroid]

i feel for him to learn that, he would need a pull to the light, as the ambient force would need a more delicate touch to get, one that the dark side can never give

[@justcallmesomething8089]

"some speculation" is an interesting way to say some shit you made up.

[@ether2275]

​@@BD-Helldroid Valkorion says otherwise

[@ether2275]

​@@justcallmesomething8089Speculation is the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. That is exactly what the comment was.

[@GGBlaster]

His greatest strength was also his greatest weakness. Palpatine: It’s ironic.

[@TheFukkles]

I think Kreia did this on purpose with both of her Sith apprentices; she intentionally built weaknesses into their training so as to be able to cast them aside when they were no longer useful to her goals. Nihilus's hunger was destined to consume him, and Sion's will was easily dominated by Kreia's whispers and deceits.

[@michaelkarimian7538]

Wow! Very well argued. I enjoy Darth Nihilus as a villain however this video has made me see him in a different light. For a future video could you do one like this on other Sith? Vitiate I believe has been extremely exaggerated (I want to stress that he is a force to be reckoned with however allot of his feats were accomplished with rituals and sacrifices, not his own power). Maybe you could have a video on Sith that are more powerful than we realize? Thank you very much for this video, it does make you think. Cheers! 😇😇😇😇😇

[@ZeldaSam1]

I find it EXTREMELY baffling to say the least that Vitiate is on the level of Abaloth!!!

[@michaelkarimian7538]

@@ZeldaSam1 Personally while powerful I don’t believe Vitiate is that strong.

[@ryanmoore7098]

Final answer: Ultimately, the Force balances itself.

[@doublevideos5424]

Good job!😄 I LOVE more Stupendous Wave Darth Nihilus content. It's always entertaining!

[@TheStupendousWave]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@Echo99k]

Nilhilus was a slave to his own power

[@ryanharte5400]

The best Star Wars channel on KZbin!

[@TheStupendousWave]

I’m glad you think so!

[@ryanharte5400]

@@TheStupendousWave it’s true! This channel has the most facts about the EU. I watch all your videos.

[@K.J.Richard]

​@@TheStupendousWave If you have the time, i would love to see a video about the gods from the Supernatural enounter book, i found all these stories fascinating despite being not canon.

[@TheStupendousWave]

Noted!

[@dunnie416]

Do you have a Vader Vs Yoda vid? 🤔

[@dedionware7526]

13:28 And let’s not forget the fact that Vitiate did exactly what Nihilus does on Ziost. 12:18 The way Nihilus’s planet consuming power is described is exactly how Vitiate’s consuming of Ziost was depicted in SWTOR

[@jarmoliebrand2005]

I always saw Nihilus as being strong, but with one insanely strong ability. But barring his life draining capabilities, he doesn’t stack up to the other greatest force wielders in history.

[@saveritas731]

Thanks for this analysis! Question: Which Jedi are actually able to resist Nihilus' Force Drain? Meetra Surik specifically was immune because of her shared nature as a Wound in the Force. I was under the impression that the more powerful the Jedi, the more beneficial they are to Nihilus as a meal. Are specific powerhouses like Yoda able to resist through raw strength in the Light Side? I've never seen anything that suggests this, but if you guys know, I'd love to see this explored in a video.

[@ether2275]

There is an ability to resist force drain, however it really depends on the skill of the user, their power in the force and of course the force drain practitioner. Force drain can range from an ability that requires one to touch their target, to a ranged power and later to a mass death field. However, Nihilus is an extreme case when it comes to force drain. It's the most extreme version of force drain imaginable, able to drain an entire planet's surface without the use of any rituals or tricks. He does it with his raw power alone. It is debatable if a powerful force user like Yoda could fully resist it. But it is possible for Yoda to be able to hold out long enough to be able to defeat Nihilus before he drains too much force from him. It all depends on his state too cause if Nihilus is at his peak, it'll be much harder to defeat him than how he was when he faced the Exile and Visas on the Ravager.

[@djnavarro3212]

I just see Darth Nihilus as the lord of hunger and as the most scariest Sith Lord in all of the Sith that came before and after. Mainly because he’s more ghostly. He’s one of the reasons why I’m scared of the dark. Because when I was younger, I saw videos and pictures of him on KZbin

[@Force_user57]

What is bro crying about 😭😭😭 Bro definatly ain't even Gen Z,probably born After 2010.

[@djnavarro3212]

I was born in 2004

[@Barkosa]

​@@djnavarro3212No way, you're 20, and still scared of the dark over Darth nihilus

[@THEnelsonbruhs]

@@Force_user57dude what? Why are you grilling him

[@djnavarro3212]

Actually I’m turning 20 next month. And everyone is afraid of the dark when your turning into a young adult

[@1TakoyakiStore]

He's just a darkside golem powered by hunger.

[@user-zu7fr8qm8r]

Nihilus is the Wall. Impossible to beat unless you can crack or stip his horrific drain. He is still very dangerous unless you are a top ten or top twenty list tier Jedi or Sith. So powerful but far from ALL powerful.

[@Force_user57]

Another casual fan detected.Them casual fans really be making their own franchise.Nihilus is the most overrated sith of all time

[@user-zu7fr8qm8r]

@@Force_user57 Either you stop his drain survive his drain or die. How many force users do you think could do the first outright? In any encounter without prior knowledge. Maybe the Ancient Sith Lords. Maybe Yoda, or Luke, or Anakin, or Sidious, Maybe Vader for a different reason. (Force Wound). Valkorian. And Revan who is responsible for him and thus forewarned. Most would simply die. Some few others might effect an escape and learn how to defeat him. Those few examples might manifest a power to sever his drain and defeat him outright. Might. He is powerful in that drain after all. 😉🤣

[@robertagu5533]

An he doesn't need to be all powerful. That WMD on a literal Galactic scale level Force Drain is ALL he really needs. There's no need to have extreme fighting ability when even the MOST LETHAL an powerful enemies ever in the Lore can't get anywhere near you an just approaching could be risking a relatively quick an easy death. With it taking everything they got just to fight it off an retreat

[@ether2275]

​@@Force_user57 Not really. I'd say he's pretty accurately rated overall. He's a unique concept and only lost under the right conditions. Even the strongest of force users would have trouble with a being like him. Some with extensive knowledge and understanding of the force, like Darth Sidious or Yoda, might be able to resist his power for enough time to take him down.

[@FeedMeSalt]

1. He grow over time in an environment with no equal or counters. 2. This is like the "why dont they just use the force and turn the other guys lightsaber off" argument. Unless your power is beyond measuring compared to the opponent you cant manipulate their energy/body. The saber becomes apart of the body. Basically if he were around during any other notable time period he would never have gotten to the point/power level to threaten 99.999%

[@davidforehand2761]

Thank you for clarifying and helping me correct my perception of him! this is an awesome video!

[@zoebrennan799]

It’s too bad you guys had to retail all these stories, but I still watch all your videos. Sometimes I see new stories I do like the six month Star Wars binge and then wait a year and then come back.

[@SwordofSlade]

Great video. I don’t think it so much exposed Nihlus as being weaker than we felt, maybe just rightfully exposed his codependency on the hunger itself to grant him it. Well done!

[@Unpopular_Duality.]

I loved this format that you took with this video. I would love to see this style further explored and expanded with several other fan favorites so Star Wars fans may understand that their favorite characters do certainly have flaws and weaknesses to their abilities, feats, and power. How about sidious, vader, or anakin next, or luke or mace and yoda as well.

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

The point about obi-wan is so true, you have a amazing way of explainging things.

[@animusora]

I agree man! Nihilius is awesome but only because of Force Drain. Take it away he goes down quick

[@TheAustinTalbert]

Bro literally spoke and killed people tf are you talking about?

[@animusora]

@@TheAustinTalbert Nihilus did not need to learn any other type of combat because it was unnecessary, it’s also his downfall. Not to mention he would eventually cease to exist once he hate himself. He was damned if he do and damned if he don’t.

[@0110-y5v]

Not true. He is powerful even without force drain, the strongest of the Sith Triumvirate in fact. Even with a full party Meetra barely managed to pull off a win. Only managing a victory by exploiting Visas's force bond with him. Dude was massively weakened yet still held off two Jedi and Canderous simultaneously, as opposed to Sion and Kreia, who both went down to the Exile 1v1.

[@danielhamilton351]

Nihilius still had red force lighting besides the powerful force drain. He had other abilities.

[@TheAustinTalbert]

@@animusora this is like saying galactus isn’t powerful because he’s always hungry. You don’t need to practice any skills when the planet the Jedi’s are walking on starts being eating. He also has telepathy and red lightning… oh no he can’t use a lightsaber like Vader can… but he can literally eat him alive.

[@VengeanceN7]

Stupendous Wave, what would happen if Darth Nihilus were to come into contact with Abeloth?

[@lucabestea6844]

Now that'd be a thing to behold.

[@Unclejona]

Unlimited Power

[@K.J.Richard]

Abeloth would destroy him lol😂 She scale above Sith who are way more powerful than Nihilus

[@VengeanceN7]

@@K.J.Richard Yes Abeloth is more powerful than most, but what I want to understand is what would be the result if the embodiment of chaos in the Force came into contact with WHAT Nihilus is, a hungry wound in the force that drains life, if I'm understanding Nihilus correctly. Would Abeloth absorb them if she found she could, and what if any new effect or characteristics emerge in Abeloth? what effect it would have on the Force itself?

[@BD-Helldroid]

now that would be an interesting interaction, The Endless Hunger Nihilus, vs the ever young and knowledgeable Mother. if Abeloth wasnt prepared for Nihilus, he'd win, as he'd drain her dry and accumulate all the power she had (they are both wounds to the Force itself, so it would be a very epic battle)

[@jockpackage1770]

Yeah the ship is a massive feet, it would be something he'd have to sustain constantly so imagine his power if he wasn't shackled to it in space. Being able to hold something like that together perpetually, passively, and also fight at the level he did is insanity. Especially him being the only reason the ship had a dam hyper drive. Also yeah let's add stasis, plague, and cutting people off from the Force on top of that. Red lightning is the realm of the dark god of Mordis and a few other Sith here and there. Saying Palpatine learned to match it with normal lightning is feat, for sure, but him lacking it meant his connection to the dark side was weaker. This is to be expected because Palpatine is not a literal wound in The Force but just a corporeal being. Oh so some depictions show Nihilus using the technique Starkiller is famous for, that's cool. Since it's lightning that is under the control of the user, it could branch out and arc towards the enemy mid clash to damage them directly. If his mask is comparable in power, as a cursed object, to a tool of one of the ancient Sith. The ancient Sith who Traya compares Sith of that time to children when measured against the old masters. If Nihilus' influence after his death is like one of those ancient Sith, that proves his power. A planet being turned into a bunch of smaller rocks and dust or one big lifeless rock. Those aren't that different. Unless the worlds could recover from nothing naturally. No Valcorean had to use a ritual but he did not have the same cost and it was a worse result so he was stronger. This doesn't really mean Nihilus was weak at all, just that there are few stronger than him. For valcorean it was just a spell, to Nihilus it was a curse that was part of him and that he could not escape. What defeated him was his student betraying him and using their bond against him.

[@lucabestea6844]

Imo Nihilus can either be beaten by someone who is a wound just like him, or someone with the intelligence and capacity to find a way to counter his Drain(Vitiate, Anakin, Revan...)

[@benanderson3784]

He's my second favorite next to sion

[@K.J.Richard]

He can be defeated by anyone who scale above the ancient Sith, the devs of the game did say Vader could beat Nihilus if encounter would take place, Traya also said that Nihilus never surpassed the ancient Sith lords who came before him, which would place a lot of Sith more powerful than him, including Revan or Exar Kun who did surpassed the ancient Sith

[@owlofdreams8091]

Nihilus still remains my favourite Sith, I never really had any misconceptions about his powers, he's essentially a force Vampire, and while he had his vulnerabilities he remains the most terrifying sith in my opinion. Other Sith wanted power and to hold dominion over others, Under Sidious, though most suffered, many prospered as a result of the Empires influence, there was still a life for you to have in some capacity, which is a low bar, but consider the alternative. With Nihilus there would be no empire, no civilization, no army, no one, he wanted nothing more than to feed, He represented the end of life ITSELF, imagine what he could have become if his power and reach continued to grow, if he'd never been slain, if he'd been allowed to roam free, leaving dead worlds and maybe even stars in his wake. You could argue that other sith represent a much greater threat at full power, luke, Anakin, Star killer, but I don't think we ever saw what Nihilus could be at the peak of his power, if it had any true limits beyond his capacity to feed, his mask and robes are still out there, it's entirely possible the wrong person could decide to try them on and he'd be free to consume all over again.

[@MisterDanger01]

what fascinates me is the short time period he amassed such huge power, his reign lasted what, 5 years? and Kreia said that he was already on the verge to surpass the ancient sith lords in power and was reaching the point where no one could stop him. BTW, wasnt he also supposed to have red force lightning? only 1 of 3 sith to master it? his power scaling was crazy, and i wouldnt consider him a sith anyway since he didnt gave a crap about sith or jedi, but yeah his powerscaling was crazy, his robe and lightsabre were taken to a dark side nexus on korriban and burried there in a tomb, aswell as his holocron, yet his mask was lost, it was found on a smugglers ship then if im not wrong taken to tatooine where a sith accolyte named zane sensed it, she killed the smugglers took the mask and from there all traces are lost.

[@kaidorade1317]

He’s like Android 20-21. He needs to absorb power to gain extra power.

[@tylerp1128]

So I’m hearing max potential Nihilus is busted and solo’s the galaxy, but lore Nihilus is high difficulty but not impossible to beat when he’s snacky

[@K.J.Richard]

The devs of the game did say Vader could beat Nihilus if encounter would take place, Traya also said that Nihilus never surpassed the ancient Sith lords who came before him, which would place a lot of Sith more powerful than him, including Revan who did surpassed the ancient Sith

[@TheXiphaus]

The principle of Nihilus' existence reminds me of Malek from LOK. Both powerful but ultimately nothing but slaves. Nalek to the circle and Nihilus to himself. I don't understand how either of them could have been truly defeated purely due to their natures... Nihilus is still out there, like a broken T'lann Imass. Let us hope no one puts him together again...

[@captainbladej52gaming]

Nihilus ultimately became a one trick pony and if he couldn't drain someone/something he was up the creek. I agree reinforcing his ship is impressive but I would argue this is just a reversed form of shatterpoint to a degree. Where as someone like Windu might use a shatterpoint to break down a foe, Nihilus found the shatterpoint and plugged the hole so to speak and reinforced it. Either that or an advanced battle mediation. Nihilus also had potent force lightning, though he was far from the most impressive with the ability. Sideous created literal wormholes in Legends with it and tore apart entire fleets. Where I say Nihilus became a one trick pony is because of his drain ability. Nihiulus is top of the list with regards to force drain. I don't count Vitiate's drain because he was assisted by a ritual to do what he did. Vitiate draining Nathema was still a highly impressive feat, but not native to him on its own. However like the video said he came to rely on it too much. For those familiar with UFC I liken it to Ronda Rousey who was also extremely overspecialized. If she could get her opponents on the ground she could usually get the win. However the first time she came up against someone like Holly Holm that could keep her at a distance she folded HARD because she had no backup plans and only generic moves to work with. For Nihilus he was the same way in that he grew to rely too much on his drain. His lightning could be countered by a force user decently proficient in tutaminis or redirecting abilities so that wasn't a guarantee. Saber skills wise, he was mid tier at best with the blade. Not complete trash with the blade, but certainly not an impressive duelist either, simply mid.

[@brianpark3395]

This may sound like a silly or dumb question but who is stronger or powerful or dangerous Nihlus orAboloth sorry if I misspelled their names wrong

[@TheStupendousWave]

Abeloth is a lot more powerful than Nihilus, Luke Skywalker is the most powerful non-entity force wielder in Star Wars and Abeloth was said to be 12 TIMES his power.

[@brianpark3395]

@@TheStupendousWave cool thank you for replying I honestly didn’t know that and I always wondered also big fan of your channels and your content

[@Lego-Joe-1]

Make a video with the archivist of putting Revan on trial.

[@RobertoFrankenstien]

The only reason Metra Surik was able to win was because they were also a wound in the force. They didnt "resist"Nihilus's force drain, he couldnt use it on them. You can't drain the force from a wound in the force Visas Marr holding back some of his power only made it easier for Metra Surik to beat him. No one else could have because no one else is a wound in the force

[@K.J.Richard]

Missconception, you can drain Nihilus, you don't need to be a wound in the force to do that. The devs of the game did say Vader could beat Nihilus if encounter would take place, Traya also said that Nihilus never surpassed the ancient Sith lords who came before him, which would place a lot of Sith more powerful than him, including Revan who did surpassed the ancient Sith. Sith like Vitiate could drain his force energy in a blink of an eye

[@alexhulea2735]

Nihilus existed at the same time as Vitiate, but could not find him. Let this sink in. We were told in Kotor 2 that Nihilus can sense concentrations of force wielders from a great distance. Yet he can't sense Drommund Kaas and all the force wielders on it. Vititate and his Sith Empire were out there doing their thing, and Nihilus could not find him. Why? No bloody idea. But he should have been able to.

[@andreicc201]

Vitiate may have died before the rise of Darth Nihilus or he clouds his dark side aura from Nihilus as he KNOWS damn well Vitiate can NEVER truly kill an entity like Nihilus without being a force wound himself

[@alexhulea2735]

@@andreicc201 the old republic MMO is set 300 years after both KoToR games. The story of the Hero of Tython, that ends with the death of Vititate's host body is in that era. Vitiate has been alive since Naga Sadow and his ilk started the Great Hyperspace War. He moved the Sith Empire to Drommund Kaas around the time the hyperspace war ended. And his ritual to become so powerful happened about a century before Revan was even born. So, in theory, he was definitely alive and findable when Nihilus was derping around the republic.

[@exile6688]

Lore wise he's weaker than Naga Sadow. For more info check out Evenova 95's KOTOR Sith Ranking video, you will not be disapointed

[@NeroLucife666]

There’s a few Force Sensitives that should be able to resist him. Anakin/Vader was able to resist some from of drain. Sidious in legends to my knowledge know basically every Dark Force ability and even created some. Anyone who could even resist Force Drain, is going to dog walk the sh!t outta Nihilus. Sidious, Caedus, Krayt, Plagueis and Revan are the most accomplished Sith/Dark Siders. They would steamroll Nihilus.

[@MisterDanger01]

Since you're in a 'what if' scenario. Nihilus reign didnt even last for 10 years, and he was already matching the ancient sith in power, and thats a fact, Kreia says it in the game. Now, al those sith you mentioned reigned for more than 10 years didnt they? and were 100s of years old or at least didnt die after 10 years or so (Revan was 300 years old lol). 'What if' Nihilus wasnt stopped in his tracks and existed for 100 years non stop consuming life. He would shit on any single one of those you mentioned. He would become a god like entity. Thats why Kreia was so desperate to stop him, she knew his power would grow beyond anything capable to stop him.

[@JeremiahWiebe]

The way it talked about star killer, and his second book and how his anger if he let it out would destroy the ship he was in and how he destroyed the that planet destroyer thingy I feel like he would be able to withstand this guys force telekinesis

[@LegendOfEpona]

@12:38 I believe you might have confused it with the miraluka world... the people of Cathar were already dead killed by the Mandalorians. Visas Marr is a Miraluka

[@K.J.Richard]

Finally, someone who understand, this Sith is the most overrated Sith lord of the EU. Darth Traya clearly said in KOTOR 2 that Nihilus despite being the most powerful Sith of the Triumvirate, never surpassed the ancient Sith lords who came before him. Which would place Revan, Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd and Naga Sadow above him.

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

Yeah SethTheProgrammer did a great video on ranking the main Sith Lords of the EU and with help from his friend Crisis who does most of the Star Wars research they explained this but to be fair while his combat power is very low that doesn’t mean he loses to all the sith above him cuz of his force drain if they can’t resist it they die and the level of threat his drain was said to be able to end the Republic by Mace Wendu if Anakin didn’t learn how to resist it, and ofc he would eventually drain all life and energy in the Galaxy if not stopped.

[@K.J.Richard]

​@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Revan and Malak are stated to have surpassed all the Sith who came before them (beside maybee Marka Ragnos since he was unknown by the Jedi)

[@K.J.Richard]

​​​​@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 You are the one who don't know how to scale lol. Feats are of no value against statements. Reborn Revan > Malak > Revan > Exar Kun > Freedon Nadd > Naga Sadow > Nihilus. Go watch the ranking made by EvanNova95

[@K.J.Richard]

​@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls EvanNova95 made a great video of a ranking of KOTOR era Sith lords, you should take a look

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

@@K.J.Richard I’ve heard good things about him from friends like he did a good job gathering feats for Star Wars the main issue with his planet level feats video is not all of them are planet level and without calcs for said feats it is hard to know for sure iirc. But sure I’ll check it out

[@kevin-2.1]

Interesting video, like it’s natural that an ambitious person would seek after they’re desires. So likewise an ambitious sith would go after power but Darth Nhilus does it to survive.

[@jamesbeattie8800]

Nihilus is extremely powerful but a burst caster/sustain mage in style. He has what's similar to a magic vampire sustain mage build, meaning that his power returns a portion of the force energy used to use it, maybe a good 95% of the full cast energy but never 100% or he wouldn't be hungry any more. He also absorbs other force powers with the same rate. A sustain style that will keep him in the fight for a time but the more he uses his energy in burst the weaker his sustain and longevity. He will burn out very fast as a result if he can't drain and that's what will destroy him. He may at peak be able to scour entire plants worth of life but that unsustainable and will quickly exhast his resources but at his peak... nothing is going to match him. Overall this video gives a terrifying credit to his full power. But He's rarely ever at full potential unless he just finished draining something of its force enriched life energy.

[@metaltera86]

Great video good points. Would love to see what vitiate thought of him

[@westongarner-qo2ez]

50th like!👍 Awesome video!🤘 Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘

[@Rencol666]

Good thing he did not have access to snickers

[@TheMightOfGeburah]

He’s a Phantom Menace Darth Maul victim, it was said that the likes of Maul is the proof that the Sith returned and became stronger than ever.

[@toxicgracie3772]

True. And Maul's potential was pretty insane

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

​@@toxicgracie3772 A potential that sadly, never lasted long enough to come to full fruition.

[@Eric6761]

​@@frenzalrhomb6919had he been trained as a true apprentice Dooku would pale in comparison

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@Eric6761 From what I can gather, this was for some reason, a deliberate plan on the part of Palpatine. I'm not at all sure why he "under trained" Maul, or why he didn't want to make the attempt to train him properly. Perhaps his time was eaten up with "keeping up appearances" as the humble "Senator from Naboo," perhaps he even feared Maul. I don't know, for sure.

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@Eric6761 But I don't think that he would ever have outclassed The Count as either a Swordsman or a Force user. Dooku was far to wise an opponent to be beaten by the likes of Maul. Maul was certainly a beast, but Dooku was a true craftsman.

[@someonlinedouche6992]

You need to make a video on his counter part now: meetra Surik. What made her different from Darth Nihilus. Arguably as a wound herself. She could resist Nihilus's Force Drain. And its said she herself fed on the lifeforce of those she killed as she "reclaimed" her connection to the Force.

[@Cross_Corp64]

Most of the time, Overpowered characters need to have some lore to their skills and abilities and they need a weakness to make it a fair game. And Darth Nihilus is one of those examples that was done well, now he’s one of my favorite Sith Lords

[@TheRealWGW]

I think this was quite a fair assessment of nihilus like it’s really interseting to know that if he can’t feed he becomes weak n there fire can be defeated until now I thought only the mortis gods or Anakin or even valcorian (excuse the spelling ) would only be able to defeat him

[@thephenomenalphantom8372]

Bro drained a planet! He the one!

[@michaelhviper]

I find him more frightening than the Deathstar. When the Deathstar would completely obliterate a planet Nihilus would leave it intact with cities and towns left intact but desolate. Entire ghost towns dotting the planet, and also that his hunger is insationable. Even all of the Star Wars galaxy wouldn't satisfy his appetite.

[@S_5_55]

People severely underestimate Nihilus’ physical combat skills. It took a Mandalore, Revan’s top general who was also a wound in the force, and his own apprentice who was interrupting a force bond with him in the middle of the fight to beat him. It took every advantage of the good guys to beat this dude, who was also starving. He’s insanely powerful, force wise and physical combat wise.

[@iAmScope2]

Darth Nihilus Vs Revan? I'd watch a movie of that

[@toxicgracie3772]

You again. Where's the Xbox 720?! 😡🤬

[@iAmScope2]

@@toxicgracie3772 It's coming out tomorrow

[@toxicgracie3772]

@@iAmScope2 😂😂

[@iAmScope2]

@@toxicgracie3772 Bro. You have toxic in your name? Do you want to continue this?

[@toxicgracie3772]

@@iAmScope2 No 🥺

[@venkelos6996]

I don't know; I've never personally heard anyone assume he could PHYSICALLY destroy worlds, but the trick is, he doesn't need to, as he can drain them dry of life, and when he does so, he can hold his ship together, negate damage it might suffer, and even pitch it through hyperspace. He could also sense at huge distances, and conceal his presence, despite just radiating the Dark Side. I don't honestly remember if people like the Jedi even felt it when he ended Katarr; if they had a Kenobi moment of dread, or if the Force didn't ripple, before he ate it, and they just had to find out the mundane way? He's certainly not the most powerful, and he definitely had flaws that people can exploit; they may not even need to be specific individuals, like with Vitiate, but he was unquestionably mighty, and without planned, prepared responses, I don't think most people were beating him. If anyone knew the inner workings of even just layers of his power, Traya would, and she was also incredibly knowledgeable in esoteric Force fields, and even she felt only someone like Meetra, with specific support, was likely to defeat him. I'm also inclined, when I discuss him with people, to claim that his personal senses are actually atrophied. He can sense the Force of worlds, but I tend to believe that one or two individuals, in his proximity, would actually be practically invisible; the scale of his senses is an order of magnitude greater, and so the energy of a person might just be beneath his notice. When I used him in RPG, this was an element they could use to fight him, as his "spread out" senses wouldn't waste his time noticing a few regular people, and unless they attacked him, forcing him to focus on his immediate surroundings, or use the Force, and attract his hunger, they were practically invisible to him. That's me, though, using creative license with a character I was particularly fond of, like Star Wars' own Galactus.

[@scottyhehehe5367]

We need a movie about Nihilus!

[@benanderson3784]

Agree

[@Tyler-k2o]

Full potential Darth Vader had red lighting too.

[@raymondmartinez1263]

As far as Star Wars lore goes, I’d say you’re the most knowledgeable on KZbin.. Lucas film should hire you as a consultant/editor , The acolyte probably wouldn’t have turned out as such hot garbage had you been there lol

[@JeremiahWiebe]

I was just thinking how a child of theirs would be pretty bad ass

[@dangerdwarf7887]

This honestly just re enforces the fact that Nihilus is my favorite Sith honestly. The dark side always takes a toll on the user in some way. And with his, it REALLY took from him. His story just kind of seems more tragic the more I think about it. Poor guy basically just got stuck with the dark side because of the mass shadow generator. He had no choice in it

[@mikothornelius8557]

Nice, thx!

[@terrenceseidman2587]

Nihilus is a ghost with the ability to get you without being near by force drain so I still think he’s pretty capable.

[@crazymulatto8981]

I've always been more of a Darth Plaugueis guy honestly

[@K.J.Richard]

I also preffer a Sith with a personality and real goals lol

[@dach829]

Nihilus is like storm, gohan and ice man or kitty pride. great potential but never truly realized

[@tatemcilwain1775]

He sounds like a lovely guy

[@andrefigueredo34]

Nihilius is a snowball atop the highest mountain, as a wound he was created and destroyed under very specific conditions, meetra was his kryptonite, if we take her out of the picture and consider that new force sensitives are born every year and that he could possibly have found the missing sith empire then he would be the galaxy armageddon.

[@jacobdarling1524]

Can you imagine Nihilus if he managed to successfully consume someone like Sidious or Valkorion?

[@caitsidhe4560]

Well its hard to consider weak when if he rolls nat1 on attack he accidentally noms up planet instead of target xD

[@ianwilson1302]

"IT'S OVER 8000!!!!"

[@Asoeee]

I honestly don't understand why you have less subs than Star Wars Theory who is simply uninteresting and talks about nonsense while you make interesting films that are good to listen to.. and he talks about things that don't interest me much and he is constantly so sad and depressed xD

[@jwinnfield9192]

The way I look at Nihilus is that he is a wound, a rip in the force. To visualise that in simple terms, imagine a large ocean of water held in a large bowl above a void. The bowl cracks and the water quickly acts to increase the size of the crack as the water forces its way through in an unstoppable torrent. Nihilus is the crack. The crack cannot be sealed off until all the water (available life force) is drained completely. Now, the kicker is, if all the life force is drained through this wound in the force, there is nobody surviving to seal the wound. Not only is there nobody around to seal the wound, there is nobody around to tell the tale of just how horrifyingly terrible he really is. That means that however powerful legend says he is, the legends can never know if they even do his might justice. I believe it is impossible to destroy a wound in the force, and that surviving as an entity following the loss of his mortal body, Nihilus has the hunger due to his nature as an open wound. Not because he depends upon feeding an insatiable hunger to continue to exist. He can feed, or not feed, it doesn’t affect his vast power in the dark, he simply feeds if there is feeding to be had.

[@ericjohnson5990]

“Power, do you think so? You would be wrong. There is no strength in the hunger he possesses, and the will behind it is a primal thing. And it rules him, not the other way around. It has its own will, its own instincts. Do not think of his power as one your warships. It is terrible, but it is still a subtle thing.” - Darth Traya

[@TheMule566]

Suggestion: Could you do a Holocron about the Muntuur stones? There isn’t much about them in wookiepedia and there are only about 3 videos in all of KZbin in which they are merely or vaguely mentioned. But there isn’t a proper video pertaining them. I think a Holocron about them could lead to interesting things

[@killing_joke_5294]

There’s also the fact that Nihilus can’t really do anything to a Jedi with force block This is why when during the Empire era and someone was possessed by the mast of Nihilus causing his resurrection he got absolutely dog washed by Vader

[@jasminecox9587]

Imagine if dooku gave grievous the mask of darth nihilus bestowing force sensitivity to him turning the general into a real threat in the process that slipped out of the control of sidious?

[@dawsonoo7]

Nihilus is effectively a sith vampire-wraith which gives maximum horror factor, but if you throw enough garlic at him he'll melt. Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion is above all a master manipulator, like Sidious, or Bane. Add to that his insane ability to cheat death multiple times and all the knowledge he had gathered over centuries makes him way more dangerous than Nihilus.

[@m3tr0id86]

Arguably Darth Nihilus is simultaneously one of the most powerful and weakest Sith Lord of all time. As soon as Darth Nihilus stops feeding the need to feed becomes greater.

[@emzonik8851]

A small correction: the colour of Force Lightning doesn't determine its power. At least not in Legends.

[@JeremiahWiebe]

He was pretty awesome. I would’ve liked it if he had spent some more time with his love interest though maybe they could’ve figured out a way to be together.

[@glennconnell6785]

Star killer could bet him when he gets angry

[@samuelrobles3737]

Nihilus is my #2 favorite sith lord being beaten out by Maul with Vader as #3. But Nihilus is like Death from Supernatural. He is a titan but not because of ungodly power, although his power is tremendous, rather he is finite. He is the exception that proves the rule. He is an eventuality. When you face nihilus alone, you know death has come and there is no way to avoid his hold on your soul. He shows no mercy for he doesn't have any but he is not wrathful. He just is. A force of nature.

[@adam-di7rk]

I thought bout this before but might the darksaber be an item that unlocks force sensitivity?

[@itbeme_bobbybsopinion9637]

Imho, Yoda should've encountered a Sith Wraith resembling Darth Nihilus, in the Clone Wars series.

[@t3floz]

Is there any info on what palpatine thinks of nihilus

[@JeremiahWiebe]

I also think Darth Revan could’ve done the same

[@tommymccann2640]

Is there any way for normal jedi to block force drain?

[@skiffy8121]

i always veiwed him similarly to those anime characters that get a busted ass ability that just solos a ton of the verse but if you can counter that theyre basically useless, like if you gave a genin sasuke unlimited amaterasu without nerfing it, or any of those crappy isekais where its all the gifted power's doing and the mc is literally a blank slate going wherever the plot takes them. (except decently written)

[@johnmaurer8596]

Dude is vulnerable to force shrinkage, lol

[@Vales55]

"But BUT Muh Force DRAIN! Nihilus is the strogestest most bestest Sith Lord EVAR and is totally invisible. He would low diff the entire universe he's so cool...!" -Nihilus glazers

[@K.J.Richard]

😂

[@machspeed8153]

He sounds like a nuke. If you can get close enough at the right time to dismantle safely. He doesn't have to be seen to explode, just close enough.

[@Husk85118]

16:44 first time hearing him use hood language

[@alexmathews3374]

I'm very curious could Darth Nihilus consum Aboleth? Would he be unstoppable if he consumed her?

[@SvenskSork]

I just love Nihilus, hes like a darkside ghost ^^ .. Agree hes far far from the strongest sith with so many weaknesses, I guess there was no turning back from these once he became the form he was. Still a very interesting character and one I would love to se a NON PG 7 movie about- In other words he would be at hes best if hes in an adult Starwars because we know hes terrifying and horrific ;D

[@JeremiahWiebe]

I think that is what he did in the end. I think the last thing he did as a Sith lord is eat an entire planet the way it did except without the thingies.

[@Z1yx4]

Basically he’s a glass cannon