Why Darth Vader Saw the Double Bladed Lightsaber as PURE WEAKNESS

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

In the first Darth Bane novel it is specifically told by his mentor Khasim (blademaster), that the double blade is inferior compared to a single blade, because you can only attack with one blade at a time in 1vs1. He further explains that two single blades trumps other forms if you are strong enough in your hands. Darth Bane resorts to his force abilities to win the duel.

[@VanTesla]

I don't know why KZbin algorithm shadow banned my first reply... I was just adding context that Darth Bane had no knowledge of his masters dual wielding form. So he decided to focus on using his advantage in the force rather than pure saber combat.

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

@VanTesla exactly - when khasim changed to two individual sabers Bane changed to using the force.

[@zilari3662]

Yet Darth Bane lost to his apprentice who used a double bladed lightsaber

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

@@zilari3662 only red book 1

[@an-animal-lover]

​@@zilari3662context matters. He dominated her in lightsaber combat. It was only when she used her Sith Sorcery, something Bane had no skill in, that she won the fight

[@izenai3122]

"I studied under Dooku" < "Dooku schooled me fr"

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

He really chose a more flowery way to describe Dooku's assbeatings 😂

[@robertagu5533]

Interesting way to say Dooku kicked his ass 9 times outta 10. Just like Dooku used the phrase "certain point of view..." Instead of just admitting he WAS lying there

[@laoman888]

I love how the Sith just all hate on each other the whole time 😂

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Absolutely! 😁😁🤣🤣😭😭

[@GGBlaster]

Gotta put others down to lift yourself up 😂 (don’t do that btw)

[@MosEisleyCantinaStories]

That's why sith r weak. Dark siders are always stronger

[@MosEisleyCantinaStories]

And no sith and dark side are NOT one in the same

[@mercury13]

Reminds me of the political left

[@Nedzilla345]

This intro is basically every Sith's view of their combat skills.

[@SilkyJohnson625]

I love that he takes the same mindset as his greatest lightsaber opponent. Dooku was nearly the best for a reason. Dooku's problem was he was too rigid and Vader learns from that too.

[@RomanVasquez-lf4tb]

Personally I feel if dooku somehow stayed alive for another 20 years somehow in exile away from the main story, he’d be as strong as Jedi leia solo in the EU was. (Not if she reached her full potential tho)

[@sniperarcher7630]

I have been star wars fan since the movies and Clone Wars series and back then i was a kid. It was always so much fun to watch star wars series and movies and it still is as long as it's not something like acolyte series. Or anywhere to close to it

[@RomanVasquez-lf4tb]

@ honestly I can agree I’m a 20/yo but was raised on 80/90s era Star Wars and honestly speaking, Disney Star Wars isn’t worse quality of writing than Lucas they should’ve made a new universe fully instead of a soft reboot. It’s strange that they didn’t and now they’re forced too write with heavy outside influence which makes the quality suck for a lot of fans, the same thing happened with books like crystal star/revan novels and the even fans didn’t like the prequels for 10 years after a generation was raised on it essentially. All these things I’ve listed have many differences in Star Wars media as how they were made and ownership but they do share one connection and that’s the fact that whoever wrote them were trying to pander for money. Instead of just writing Star Wars getting rich

[@an-animal-lover]

​@@RomanVasquez-lf4tbI don't understand. When you say "forced to write with heavy outside influence" what do you mean?

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Dooku's style wasn't rigid. It is the style that suited him as a nobleman, and it reflected his philosophy.

[@Ravenfanatic5]

If only it were possible to see Vader test his theory out on Exar Kun

[@jawndough7807]

He would’ve gotten slaughtered lol

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Exar kun defeated a version of luke Skywalker who was more skilled duelist and more powerful in the force than vader

[@GGBlaster]

⁠@@jawndough7807I don’t know, Vader is pretty unfazed by almost everything. If Exar can’t catch him off guard, Vader will more than likely win.

[@Lego_Bro2]

@@GGBlasterbro, even if Vader is preparing Exar is still too fast compared to Vader, y’all are actually overestimating Vader’s abilities

[@ghostface4404]

@@GGBlaster Kun has never lost in a 1 on 1 dual. Vader? lol, no.

[@Darth_Cornpop]

"Finally, something on which we can both agree..." -Count Dooku, probably

[@UnexpectedWonder]

You know it! 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

[@shadowbeast2276]

Most likely

[@dreadrath]

Yep. Pretty much. The only other opinion I can think of that Anakin even remotely aligned with Dooku on (Jedi Anakin and Jedi Dooku not full dark side Sith Dooku and Anakin) was the idea that the jedi needed to branch out and start helping people in the outer rim and worlds outside of the republic, but even there they had totally different ideas of how to go about it. But when it comes to lightsaber combat, Vader and Dooku are very much on the same wave length.

[@JustinMinckley]

Dooku would laugh because of how Vader has lost half his body

[@bunkydoes8048]

Grievous : Oh, I see how it is 😢

[@phatphox79]

You know what the best part of a Doubled-bladed lightsaber? You don't always need to have the other blade emitted.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

A 3rd person who done research for this matter. Well Done!

[@josephalonzo1059]

That mindset is truly a Sith mentality, especially when you think about how an opponent(s) would react when you ignite the second blade and it catches them offguard

[@ThePOSM]

& have the saber staff be detachable :p

[@travisnell6849]

@@josephalonzo1059 That's one part of the acolyte that I liked. Just randomly having the second shortsaber to surprise with.

[@lugo5678]

Vader was categorically incapable of using a double blade and rather than admitting that his physical disability barred him from using that weapon he buried himself in his ego and pretended he was above it.

[@danielsuarez3198]

Was about to write something similar, and even when he was whole, he still mediocre at it.

[@BenAri18]

"True sith don't need lightsabers" - Darth Sidious, Palpatine taught Vader to use his saber only to mock jedi but his true mastery like his master Sidious was in using the force in a superior way to other jedi and sith

[@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk]

I don't know where this comes from, but it's pure nonsense. The double bladed lightsaber takes way more skill to use. To call skill a weakness is just dumb.

[@lugo5678]

@@BenAri18 Vader never learned that lesson; and Sidious lost most of the saber fights we see him in.

[@SinfulSquirrel]

Nothing but truth spoken 👏

[@aster4jaden]

The first time Anakin and Dooku could probably agree on.

[@teodoraustin3505]

"Twice the pride, double the fall"

[@hitmixhyepock9405]

As he got both hands cut off...and then his head.

[@nafizulsanko]

Can it be pride if it's true. Also vader knows people like luke or palpatine who are more powerful then him. It's not pride it's facts

[@SilasSmith-u2z]

Freaking awesome video Stupendous always love these Vader videos and happy Friday and hope you have a great rest of your day

[@timobrien7382]

You're killing it Stupes!!! Great video man, always love these introspectives of characters!!! I love the idea of Dooku, being an unofficial master/teacher to Anakin/Vader, which makes sense considering all the duels they had.

[@kingshadow8782]

Happy Friday everyone!

[@Kris-ym2zr]

That was a pretty cool and eye opening video, many thanks. I love the nuances in how he thought compared to others

[@kaidorade1317]

He learned on geanosis that a true warrior needs only a single blade

[@herbalyzoltan409]

And a single hand...

[@hitmixhyepock9405]

Whom was then killed with 2 blades

[@pullo5518]

Excellent video, as always.

[@sirtriston8882]

The image at 0:17 is hilarious. The duel saber character could lean backwards keeping his head and shoulders away from the saber lock. Then using his left arm thrust forward with the opposite end of the blade. Duel sabers do have an advantage. 1st block 2nd reposition body is a more favorable stance 3rd use the other end to slice opponent in half.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

You also have to take into account the weapons weaknesses which are still major issue when against a single bladed user who has 3!!!! saber form techniques into a single combat form. Don't get me wrong double bladed sabers do offer a second blade which would and does help but you also need to know that when you have both blades ignited and as stated in video you have to perform wide swings compared to single bladed sabers and yes you can have 1 blade ignited on the duelbladed saber but then you will then rely on a tatic that is frowned upon by both jedi and sith alike which is igniting the second blade in mid combat so in end you are weak in vaders eyes because you are no longer relying on your skill.

[@mung01re]

You’d think he’d be cooler about it. It’s not like he has anything left to accidentally chop off.

[@peterga3658]

i would like longer videos . use them to sleep/work/gym . Happy new year everyone

[@Gor85]

This is great description! Vader's analysis of lightsaber combat is perfect. Nothing to add. Perfectly said. Dooku taught him a lot,as Anakin. See you in next holocron

[@theloneeaglegaming5565]

Exar Kun would disagree.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

Have you actually done research to see if exar has trained in 1 or more saber styles before saying exar will basically win?

[@jcaesar19871]

@@GriffenSpadeIsBack Vader ain't taking on Exar Kun.

[@jordanglasper1064]

This is the first video I’ve seen from you in a very long time that covers the simplicity the beauty the strength the power and the skill set as well as the explanation and dominance of Lightsaber combat prowess and discipline of Darth Vader.

[@Andrew-zu7yn]

Exar kun: killed the chancellor and his master in the same day and WALKED out of there. Vader: Stops the evil chancellor from getting killed, then cries about. Goes up against his Master and loose the majority of his limbs and his wife. Vader just being salty.

[@patrickramos9251]

Deceit is a skill that requires another. Deceit is useless in solo minecraft, and solo anything. It is useless in conquering oneself.

[@kyleray8504]

Did not expect to see something here that made me philosophize. Bastard! It’s the weekend! You made me think! Thank you ❤

[@LaMortesAbyss]

Vader in a nutshell.

[@YourSpaceMyFace]

Love this channel and community, lots of disagreements and debates yet done with grace and humour, love you all may the force be wil y'all, light or dark.

[@GregWhipple]

This is a perfect illustration of why Anakin fell. He was always narrow-minded and arrogant. He knew better than you. Even his approach to Jedi training was heavily "Yeah, yeah... Just show me the technique so I can make it better." People like to lay Vader's existence on Obi-Wan because he upheld the oath he swore to Qui-Gon. Yoda was right to blame himself. When he saw that he could not prevent Anakin being trained, he let a BRAND NEW Master train him. Yoda should have assigned him a more experienced mentor, and had Obi-Wan assist. But that would fly in the face of the ridiculous Jedi notion that attachments are bad, so we'll just let this poor guy who just lost his own Master torture himself for decades over a failing that wasn't even his! I swear... these friggin' Jedi.

[@JustinMinckley]

this the response i was waiting on

[@OriginalMomo]

Vader never trained under Dooku, he killed Dooku as Anakin.

[@tabbylion2079]

I was wondering if he was talking about another character for the whole video

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

you didnt hear properly even though "dooku wasnt his master anakin still learned much from dooku in both fights with him" as stated in the video and much more.

[@dreadrath]

Vader meant it in a more abstract sense. There's an old saying that goes something like "We learn as much if not more from our enemies than we do our mentors." I'm probably botching the wording, dunno where the sayings from either, but it holds true here since Anakin learned a lot from facing Dooku and even mastered the lightsaber in a bid to surpass him and get payback for Dooku cutting off his hand.

[@HeavyCrown316]

I knew I wasn't crazy. I was like when did this happen?

[@michaelwelch4475]

Except that Dooku was defeated by Anakin before turning Sith, so could not be tutored by him. Wow, how could you miss that detail

[@Psych1_-]

An example of why Vader wasn't able to overthrow Sidious. Sidious was the master of deception, and manipulation. He had almost all the Jedi wiped out without needing a lightsaber. Vader was a warrior at heart, not the type to do what was necessary to destroy Sidious.

[@LunchboxMinistries]

"A man who could defeat any challenge, not through reliance on trick, skill, or tools, but through sheer skill."

[@Keller5327LV]

...was what? Finish the thought.

[@LunchboxMinistries]

@Keller5327LV that is one of the many descriptions for Vader quoted directly from the video

[@hitmixhyepock9405]

As he uses the force......which is a tool, trick and skill ......

[@Keller5327LV]

@@LunchboxMinistries got it.

[@carlosgarza400]

These quotes and make the videos, both the content and title, more fascinating

[@GGBlaster]

It takes some serious durasteel guts to speak ill of Exar Kun 😉

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

More guts than you.

[@Randomthew]

what lightsaber type would you use Wave?

[@LaMortesAbyss]

Didn't one of these videos suggest that Dooku also thought prosthetic limbs to be weak?

[@mikeharvey9184]

And yet, if I remember correctly, he only fought Ashoka to a draw…

[@andreicc201]

Dooku would be proud of Vader picking up his ideology

[@recompostion]

Didn’t Sideous think he was above using his light sabers? He hid his last one in a statue like someone with credit issues putting their card in a cup of water in the freezer.

[@treiwilson9445]

So he's saying Exar Kun is foolish?

[@DeathScepter]

yes

[@RAWDEAL064]

Basically. I think he's trying to rationalise his own shortcoming by hiding behind his ego

[@BenAri18]

If you read the legends lore you'd know Kun is indeed a very rash and prideful fighter who goes into all his fights without a plan, his a great duelist but he is indeed foolish

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

​@@DeathScepter no

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

​@@BenAri18exar kun defeated a version of luke Skywalker in a lightsaber duel which was more powerful and skilled than vader

[@JeffreyPruden]

I find Vader's view to be rigid to a certain degree. It's not as deep as Dooku's, but there's still short sight. Whatever the weapon and how it's used all depends on the individual and thier preference. There is no singular way to winning in a battle since there's always changes that occur during conflict. Adapting is a key component along with absorbing what is useful and discarding what is useless

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

Using tricks that ARE NOT SKILL OF SAID WEAPON IS WEAKNESS.

[@JeffreyPruden]

@GriffenSpadeIsBack Weapons and tricks are each separate strengths that can be used in conjunction with each other by the user. NOT USING ALL THAT IS IN YOUR INVENTORY IS WEAKNESS

[@mavraszunwoody2527]

There was Ezra Bridgers blaster-saber that while a single saber gave the wielder a far superior range over the staff saber. And also more tricky to the opponent because in a saber lock just need to twist the handle a little bit and theres a blaster aimed at the face.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

Vader will most likely call it as a sign of weakness because at that point you are no longer relying on your mastery of the saber/saber combat and only the blaster. In short if vader came across a jedi let alone a force sensitive who had such saber vader would ultimately win and you also have to take into account of when ezra had the weapon he was still a padawan and not a jedi knight/master yet and if i remember correctly the lightsaber got destroyed i just dont remember how.

[@mavraszunwoody2527]

@@GriffenSpadeIsBack But thats the thing Vader had Decades of time to perfect his form where as someone like Ezra was flying by the seat of his pants, and in that situation you used anything and everything to, if not win, at least survive. And it got destroyed at the temple on Malechor where Ezra first met Maul. I think Vader was the one who destroyed it.

[@Red-jr9qm]

I find this mindset interesting for Vader because, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how well the other dualists were if they are dead. If a cheap trick here or an unfair advantage there causes your opponent to fall, did it matter how much better at one fighting style they were?

[@LaMortesAbyss]

I think we're going to the Sith academy. I couldn't agree more.

[@an-animal-lover]

"Honor is for the living. Dead is dead"-Darth Bane

[@Trylen]

Makes me think about how Darth Bane looked at sabers

[@asdfg1346on]

I would really like it if you would make videos about more obscure lore and stories on star wars, like the comics that are not mainstream and that we the average fans don't have the time to read but would definitely listen to them.

[@JustinMinckley]

Oh my god, imagine this war of words if Kun and Vader ever met and then fought. Exar would prove so much wrong with this and then kick his ass from my p.o.v.

[@jshadnot]

What book is he reading from in the beginning?

[@josephprendergast771]

Can you explain if Luke Skywalker had any views on different lightsaber builds like double blade, curved and pikes?

[@TheUnnamed147]

Then what about Starkiller??

[@herbalyzoltan409]

He was never meant to be Vader's superior, and his potential was underestimated. I guess he was taught with two lightsabers because it was more practical and it made fights easier for Starkiller.

[@robertagu5533]

Whom ALSO REPEATEDLY kicked Vader's ass in EU... Yeah, Exar would mop the floor with Vader's cyborg ass an Vader on back his mind has to KNOW that... Being just mad cuz he no longer can move like Starkiller an others can. Exar ISN'T known to have EVER lost a dual. .only 1 person just matched him to a draw. Anakin MIGHT'VE been able to handle himself but there's way more to a fight then what Vader favors. An guys like Exar, Maul an Revan, etc know that. Think Vader probably forgot that for awhile

[@NicholasWeaver-e3b]

A single blade is a balanced approach to combat, but to say a dual bladed saber is weaker, isn’t necessary true. With a single blade, you can thrust at your opponent in a rapier like style. But the single blade means that you can only spin the saber so fast. A dual bladed saber can spin twice as fast easily, and where you do need to use wide sweeping strokes, the dual bladed saber can deal with hordes of enemies without much difficulty. It’s ultimately up to the user to determine which stance is better for them. If they prefer the traditional approach, if they have a weakness that requires compensation, or if they simply want to be different, these all need to be considered to determine which stance is best for them.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

Single blade is not balance type especially considering it still outbeats duelsabers. Have yet to see any sith or jedi use single blades sabers as rapiers so its clear to me you didnt do research before commenting let along watch the films(fk disney ones) let alone play any starwars game. Not a single time did they use single bladed saber as a rapier. Only sith/jedi who did was and i quote Dooku and only Dooku for the fact of how he has made his hilt for his saber which is curved.

[@NicholasWeaver-e3b]

Incorrect Griffen! I’ve watched all of the movies, most of the shows (clone wars included) and have played several Star Wars games! Dooku used his saber like a rapier, and so did Cal Kestis, an order 66 survivor. And in the Jedi Survivor (the very same game where Cal used his saber like a rapier) the single blades stance is referred to as a perfectly balanced stance, suitable for all situations. Calling me out on a few small mistakes is one thing, but I never comment about anything unless I’ve done a lot of research on the subject. I assure you, I’m not some idiot…

[@azrael5185]

Vader wasn’t even granted the rank of Jedi Master 😂

[@0predaking0]

Vader roasted Sidious, Maul, Savage, and all of those who use double bladed or where user of Jarkai

[@abstraction6212]

**Exar Kun knocks** Wats gud

[@Ravenfanatic5]

​@abstraction6212 Exar: "I heard you were talking trash about me. This is coming from a walking torso. Let's test that theory of yours, Vader." Lightsaber ignites Vader: "😳O snap."

[@abstraction6212]

@@Ravenfanatic5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXLHeY2qd8Shb6ssi=4cqwtvgx5gYB5ciB

[@AbramHarper]

@@Ravenfanatic5He does not want the smoke with Exar.

[@BenAri18]

​@@AbramHarper Vader is much more powerful than Kun lmao, u old republic fans love to overpower those characters despite lucas stating vader and palpatine to be the most powerful sith

[@Antonio-t6v3d]

I'd have to say that Jar'Kai is my favorite style because I am semi-ambidextrous.

[@jasonbrooks7310]

Vader's simplicity came from Obi-wan.

[@fatesend8637]

I believe each has its merits. The single blade style gives you a tighter defense and a free hand to control the force. You can also hold it with two hands for power strikes. Switching between one and two handed grips on the single saber is pretty good. Dual wielding styles seems to rely more on slashing and less on extraneous force abilities. The double bladed saber seems to be a more offensive oriented combination that gives a bit of both. You get more blade real estate while potentially allowing a free hand for the force attacks. But the double saber in Exar Kun's hands could be a double or single blade. Kun had a more versatile style and blade than we see from most double blade saber wielders. Honestly, I think Kun mops the floor with Vader unless plot armor changes something.

[@joshpollack4104]

Would you be willing to do a video on your thoughts of Vader with a Sith war blade?

[@DevinSmith-q5m]

I would like to know vaders thoughts on the cross guard saber

[@psycake1310]

I find it amusing that each Sith will just tear into each other, about how 'inferior' their predecessors were. Darth Vader focuses on a single bladed lightsaber, instead of using a double-bladed saber or even dual wielding.. Largely because of the shortcomings Anakin experienced with while encountering Count Dooku for the first time. Despite wielding two lightsabers against Darth Tyrannus, Dooku was able to slip through and bypass Anakin's excessive defenses, and through sheer skill and precision of Form 2 Makashi, was easily able to dismantle one of them. Dooku then claimed Anakin's right arm as well, not through trickery, but an act of blade mastery. It really comes to show how Darth Vader refined himself and his combat approach after each major defeat he endured.

[@mikael557]

Exar Kun: "Hold my resolve"

[@JacobBrennenstuhl]

What you never hear about Jar'kai and dual wielding is a jedi wielding an off-hand saber for reasons akin to a parrying dagger, to allow for better counterattacks. Better yet, imagine parrying with a cortosis-coated parrying dagger.

[@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi]

One man's sound fighting style is another man's gimmick; think about it.

[@felixortiz257]

Bro is just mad because he can't use Djem So Ataru anymore like he used to and he doesn't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

[@GriffenSpadeIsBack]

Even so he has more skill over you despite the situation and he learned to adapt with his new body and has incorporated 2 additional saber styles into his form for how vader fights.

[@TherealKRG-d7p]

Imo Anakin’s main problem was that he was too narrow minded in on how his instructors tried to teach him. Instead of learning more knowledge on the force he would focus on lightsaber combat. His lack of force is why he and Obi Wan stalemated in their force push despite Anakin’s raw strength in the force. My point is Anakin was an expert duelist due to him being arrogant and closed minded is what eventually led to his downfall and never reaching his full potential (As well as Dooku) Honestly who can blame them 🤷‍♂️

[@theghosteplayers7590]

Would also like to point out the the inquisitors used double bladed + spinning lightsabers who just so happened to be under the command of Darth Vader

[@stevenceja4706]

Vader hated the Inqusitors, so giving them double bladed lightsabers was probably his way of mocking them.

[@SollieWalker1906]

🙄Neither Count Dooku nor Lord Vader ever faced off against Exar Kun in battle. 😏 Because he would have washed and folded both of them.

[@lotusinn3]

Exar Kun says hello 😅.

[@mikael557]

Vader has no room to talk honestly. He was deficient in many other avenues, and if it wasn't for his son, he'd be an epic fail.

[@robertstrong6798]

If he is of the opinion of dooku on light sabre combat, he must really hate Asokas duel wielding technique ? Yet he is the one who trained her

[@sydneyg2235]

Can you make a video on exar kun when thousands of jedis tried to use sever force on him and the ritual he was trying to do

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Over 4000 jedi formed a wall of light and they didn't possessed the power to destroy him only seal him

[@SUPER_MECHA_M155]

Darth vader says this. One master lighsaber form is better then 2 Jedi lightsaber forms

[@C.R.Cole331]

Vader decided he was cool enough already

[@joliver81]

Moving one blade toy ward your opponent means your moving one blade toward yourself. Having the added risk of concerning oneself with what to do and what not to do puts the combatant at risk. One glancing blow or misstep and you’re just as likely to remove your own head as having someone else remove it for you.😂

[@Zyemeth0]

"Vader hated these because he saw them as spectacle meant to intimidate and overwhelm instead of precision and skill" "Vader would sometimes handicap himself to show off" so... a show of spectacle?

[@starkillerab1582]

3:51 who’s that Jedi Vader engages in that picture?

[@kevin-2.1]

I would agree with Vader’s theory.

[@johnwebb4499]

Darth Maul actually faught better with one blade than two.

[@ThoraxetheImpaile100]

What do you think his thoughts would be on the cross guard saber?

[@camaronpotts4214]

You have to be really good to be effective with a twinblade. Which is why vader is right when he says they're unnecessarily complex. Twinblades are cool, but really impractical

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Vader only believed they were unnecessarily complex because he lacked both the strength and dexterity that was needed to properly wield them. In fact, i believe that good argument can be made that the more advanced wielders of double bladed lightsabers were more talented than anyone who only used 1 since it is more difficult to master. It is especially noteworthy that Exar NEVER lost a duel with this weapon while Vader lost multiple duels using 1 blade.

[@camaronpotts4214]

@decepticonxhunter4850 I agree. They aren't impractical because they require more strength or dexterity, though vader probably did lack the dexterity. They're impractical because they limit range of motion and are poorly weighted. Exar's lightsabre was particularly bad in this regard because the handle was so small so it would've been horribly weighted. Not saying he was bad, just made a bad choice of weapon. If anything, I think that makes Exar Kun even more impressive because not only did he win every fight, but he did it while using a really poorly designed weapon. Ultimately though, it's star wars. It's all good fun and rule of cool will always win and, silly as they may be, twinblades are very cool

[@LadyAndreaRose1701]

Good soldiers watch early, like, subscribe and share

[@nategraham6946]

Jar Kai is not a form 6 variant. It is not the same thing that Djem So is to Shien in form 5, or Vaapad is to Juyo in form 7. Jar Kai simply benefits from the versatility mindset that form 6 emphasizes.

[@ScubbaSteve3000]

What about 2 sabers in each hand like Starkiller?

[@Rickybobby427xyz]

Idk some saber staff users did well. Like zannahs ability to use the saber staff to defend easier.

[@everythingsalright1121]

tell that to cal kestis

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

The problem with it is that no one could wield a saber like exar's. It was a single handed grip for a reason.

[@maceblasy6471]

He's only salty because he can't handle the double blade.

[@RomanVasquez-lf4tb]

A consistent pattern of flaws I’m noticing in the war torned force users no matter Jedi or Sith… Is the fact that the ones who become doubting of others ability whether they be conquerors or heroes, it always bites them in the ass when a Star Wars warrior Doesn’t believe they can be caught off guard. Characters like Yoda who represent the apex of the light doubted anakins potential by being too rigged in his training, that undid all the lights ideals. While the characters like Tulak hord who was a being of darkness yet noble and honorable unlike his fellow Sith, still couldn’t acquire his conceptual goal of a Sith race empire lasting without him, even though tulak hord and was a successful warrior/conqueror his goal ultimately failed since it the force didn’t let his people stay united and strong. Further more characters like qui gon and traya were right and only failed due to a lack of power rather than actions like other characters of Jedi/Sith origin.

[@javis999]

You only need one blade. Too many times in canon has the hilt been severed. I guess cal's is acceptable.

[@nategraham6946]

I admit, as you were reading the quote at the beginning, I thought it came from Dooku.

[@an-animal-lover]

Where does it come from?

[@DarthCrow]

While I agree that being able to face any situation with only one blade does prove one is superior in lightsaber combat. That being said, I prefer the double-bladed version, the kind that can also be split in two. That way you are trained in multiple forms, single, dual and double. And yes, that brings up the issue: jack of all trades, master of none. But I think the unpredictability helps in that situation.

[@TheLordofHarem]

Exar Kun Disagrees!!! 😂😂😂

[@IgnisNatus]

He also hated Darth Maul because he kill his "father" qui-gon

[@AlexanderSmolen-p9t]

Malgus showed satele shan the weakness of double bladed lightsaber

[@AbramHarper]

@@AlexanderSmolen-p9t And that always bothered me. I never understood why saberstaff users didn’t make their weapons out of a lightsaber resistant material, especially when the options existed.

[@an-animal-lover]

Where does the exerpt come from?

[@an-animal-lover]

At the start

[@Drag7on]

Miyamoto Musashi would look at Vader crossed eyed. Vader's fighting style Arrogant. Yes, the mind is the weapon. You never focus on signal weapon. You use them all, its a tool bag. Spears or pikes are the kings of melee combat, basically point and click.

[@jarvisjackson5455]

They might not be better but there fun!!!!

[@pt5728]

There’s so much looking down upon in Star Wars😂

[@westesch7833]

Did Vader ever have thoughts about ancient Sith swords? The actual darkside imbued blades of the Sith...

[@alexandervelez4581]

Who would win in a duel exar kun vs Darth Vader both also are the best fighters of their time

[@alexandervelez4581]

And who has the better form

[@VanTesla]

Dooku, Sidious, and Vader are some of the best duelist in Star Wars. I find Vader criticism of Exar kinda funny as he admits he has integrated some of his teachings if minor. I find Vader kinda harsh on Exar Kun, given that Exar creations and innovations actually changed combat going forward. Vader doesn't particularly have that as he benefits from the past Sith masters. Exar Kun was a Form 6 and 7 master. While Vader is a master of Form 5 and later form 2 due to his fights with Dooku. Too me, Vader, just really wasn't great at jar'kai and didn't really care for Form 6 given his past history. Be it his personal failings like against Dooku in his first bought or seeing the Battle Master in his time Cin Drallig who was the at time master of Form 6. Exar Kun never was beaten in single combat before or after he created the Double Bladed lightsaber, if I recall. This was after the said mystery of not knowing how to deal with the new type of lightsaber as well. So I view Vaders' own view on the saber and forms overly critical and biased given his past failings and interactions with them.

[@silverpc4611]

exception, the Dark Saber.

[@an-animal-lover]

What's the exception?