Why did Churchill and De Gaulle invade Syria in 1941?

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2 жыл бұрын

Why did Charles De Gaulle and Winston Churchill decide to invade Syria and Lebanon (the Levant) in 1941? Let's find out!
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@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you all had a good Christmas! Due to time constraints, I wasn’t able to put the Patreon/SubscribeStar list in the video, so I apologize for that. Subtitles aren’t available yet, but I will put them in as soon as I can. Due to Christmas, the next Stalingrad video will not be out next week. I’m aiming to get it done for the week after (10th of January). I’m sorry for the delay.
@jeffbybee5207
@jeffbybee5207 2 жыл бұрын
No worry love you stuff and merry Christmas to you
@Infernal460
@Infernal460 2 жыл бұрын
Same to you. (Edit) Ps. Noticed the WW2 for dummies book, lol.
@abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713
@abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 2 жыл бұрын
Merry x-mas holidays and a happy new year TIK! Born in Switzerland, I am a 1/2 French 1/2 German speaker and have passed a good part of my life living amongst the French (might even have a passport somewhere in a box). I just wanted to give you some "insider advice" when it comes to talk about France, the Free French and their Relation to Vichy: It is very important to know that there is a very strong "filter" applied when you look at this through the lens of history written for and by English speaking nations. Unfortunately, this filter is "visible" in this very interesting video. I got aware of this phenomena the first time I saw a French made documentary about the liberation of Paris. At school in Switzerland, we have very much the US/British version of WWII when it comes to history. So, watching this French documentary, I was astonished to the point that I went checking if it was really about the same event! I don't say that the French have it all right and the Brits all wrong - as usual the truth is somewhere in between. Hearing a British Historian talking about the Free French makes me often think of this Churchill quote " History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." So, I think, the hole context of Charles de Gaulle, the Free French is a very interesting one and I would love to see more of it coming from you since you are not running after the usual suspects but want to get it the way it happened. However, if you want to cover it with the quality we are used to see from TIKhistory, I strongly suggest that you have a good look at French sources (there is a lot, but not so much translated) or ideally look for a cooperation with a French youtuber. Keep the good work going!
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 жыл бұрын
i bet lots of people will say "oil" and be wrong but is it really so?
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 2 жыл бұрын
this is one of your best videos. thank you and good work! I've read up about this campaign, despite that I learned some new things.
@lonjohnson5161
@lonjohnson5161 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the British wanted small wins in a French colony to convince the Americans to join the fight, given that less than 200 years earlier the Americans wanted small victories in British colonies to convince the French to join the fight.
@kieranh2005
@kieranh2005 2 жыл бұрын
Irony?
@danman101stefan
@danman101stefan 2 жыл бұрын
O
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a forgotten war, I reckon at least some people have heard of the Syria campaign, the Madagascar campaign on the other hand is completely forgotten. And the Vichy French there lasted for longer then France did against the Germans in 1940. Also Wavell, as a commander, must have been one of the most underrated and unnecessarily maligned commanders, considering he had 4 fronts to fight with never enough troops to properly fight one of them, plus Churchill breathing down his neck, who was probably worse then Mad Man Hitler when it came to meddling into military matters. Luckily for Wavell Iraq and Iran were relatively short campaigns that didn't sap his limited resources as much as Libya, Greece, East Africa and Syria did.
@faeembrugh
@faeembrugh 2 жыл бұрын
I once worked with a South African guy whose uncle fought in that campaign in the Pretoria Highlanders. As a Scot, I was curious if this was a unit made up of ex-pat Scots living in South Africa but - no! They were all Afrikaner troops who liked the idea of wearing the kilt as they thought it looked smart!
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone criticises Wavell at all really? His sacking is near universally seen as unjustified
@DoddyIshamel
@DoddyIshamel 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovablesnowman Well, it's the old Churchill wrote the history thing. Once Churchill died the rehabilitation of Wavell was pretty swift though.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
@@faeembrugh 🤣🤣🤣 Smart thinking on their behalf. Gotta look sharp after all. Also, your culture now belongs to the world now. Don't some Indian army units and the Jordanian army use bagpipes too?
@jasoncreamer5747
@jasoncreamer5747 2 жыл бұрын
@@faeembrugh Plenty of Afrikaaners with Scottish heritage, they are not all of Dutch decent. There's Dutch, German, Swiss, Scott and allot of French to.
@thefrenchareharlequins2743
@thefrenchareharlequins2743 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is, why does the British AI never invade Syria when Vichy uses it to capture the Suez all the blooming time?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Because we all know that Dentz was the REAL desert fox!
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 жыл бұрын
Free France has a focus for invading Syria.
@jswap1
@jswap1 2 жыл бұрын
Tik's videos often talk about different military unit sizes and I can never keep them straight. He inspired me to create a mnemonic to remember them; here it is: Some Poor Chap Baked Red Bricks During Christmas Afternoon Squad Platoon Company Battalion Regiment Brigade Division Corps Army A rule of thumb is that 3 of each smaller unit makes up the larger, so 3 squads to a platoon, etc. I hope this helps someone.
@NotRexButCaesar
@NotRexButCaesar 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great mnemonic.
@dernwine
@dernwine 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you are talking about the British Army, specifically the cavalry, in which case it's: Section, Troop, Squadron, Regiment, Brigade. Or the Artillery which is Section, Troop, Battery, Regiment, Regiment, Brigade (that's not a typo, there's two different Regiments). Or the British Infantry that goes: Section, Platoon, Company, Battalion, (sidebar about how the Regiment is an admin formation that can be bigger than a division), brigade. :)
@martinlaird4738
@martinlaird4738 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Army Group :)
@davidhauge5706
@davidhauge5706 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hazchemel
@hazchemel 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic :)
@thoughtfulpug1333
@thoughtfulpug1333 2 жыл бұрын
16:41 "I don't really want to get into French politics because it's stupid" Agreed.
@zxbzxbzxb1
@zxbzxbzxb1 2 жыл бұрын
True enough although British ones at this point in time are no better 🧐
@adamjaquay4279
@adamjaquay4279 2 жыл бұрын
@@zxbzxbzxb1 neither were American ones, the US was trying to extract itself from the Phillipines for decades but then suddenly sends much more assets to defend it and then before try to sit on the sidelines and sell weapons to everyone thinking we'll stay out of the war lol. Ahhh politicians lol!!
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when it involved DeGaulle.
@thelizardking3036
@thelizardking3036 2 жыл бұрын
Teacher: “in spring 1941, the Arabs were revolting.” Students: “that’s racist!” Teacher: “no I ment…. O, never mind.🤷‍♂️”
@stein5763
@stein5763 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather, a Syrian-Circassian, was born in Damascus during the invasion, really nice to see a video showing a part of my extended family’s history. Great work as always Tik.
@nebras__
@nebras__ 2 жыл бұрын
Yo R u Syrian too ?
@stein5763
@stein5763 2 жыл бұрын
@@nebras__ Yes :3
@perobusmaximus
@perobusmaximus 2 жыл бұрын
@@stein5763 those types of syrians with jesus-pics-like green eyes are from cyrcassian ascendence, or they are mixed?
@valta5063
@valta5063 2 жыл бұрын
4:15 Minor Mistake: Rashid Ali al-Gaylani was not the president but the prime minister of Iraq. Iraq was still a kingdom at this time. Great video still!
@davidhyams2769
@davidhyams2769 2 жыл бұрын
Another mistake - Port Said is pronounced Sayeed
@maude7420
@maude7420 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I do want a video about Vichy France now that I watched this video I heard it's a terrible mess of politics that is really difficult to accurately define
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I said it was "stupid" and didn't want to get into it... I guess I'll have to at some point
@stephenconroy5908
@stephenconroy5908 2 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained, it's a small but fascinating topic. I learnt about it from Colin Smith's "England's Last War Against France: Fighting Vichy 1940-42", and it's as you say, the need to secure resources, a general distrust of the French (the British distrusting the French? I am shocked, SHOCKED!), and to secure strategic depth if the Western Desert campaign was at risk. It might indeed seem fanciful now, the idea of a German invasion of Cyprus and then Lebanon/Syria, but at the time the Allies couldn't take that chance. Norway and France had already shown that conventional assumptions were the mother of all failures. Wavell was of course justified in his view too, and without realising it I have been quoting him to my line managers for about six months! Fun fact, it was during this invasion where future Israeli defence minister Moshe Dayan was wounded, leading to him wearing his trademark eye patch.
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 2 жыл бұрын
Which formation was he fighting for?
@denniseggert211
@denniseggert211 2 жыл бұрын
There is also the point of Turkey. No one knew if the turks wouldn´t side with the germans again as they still had very warm relations and turkey at least secured the german southern Flank during the invasion of the Soviet Union, helping to supply germans and their allied crimean tatars over the black sea in areas the germans had trouble to cover logistical. With the Turks help Cyprus/Lebanon/Syria would be within the Axis reach.
@danreed7889
@danreed7889 2 жыл бұрын
Its a good book
@guyh9992
@guyh9992 2 жыл бұрын
Richard James book "Australia's war with France" provides the Australian perspective. Churchill portrayed it as a walkover to gain Australian support. Vichy ensured large numbers of British and Australian casualties in revenge for Mers-el-Kabir, there was little media coverage and the 7th division called themselves the "silent seventh". British General Wilson treated them like undisciplined colonials and de Gaulle treated them with disdain even though they had just captured Beirut to enable his grand entry to the city. The 7th division had little time for the French after this having suffered 1400 casualties and de Gaulle's treatment. There was also Australian infighting with Blamey sidelining his rival Lavarack from the Greece campaign to this campaign with its lack of publicity. The Australians remained in Northern Syria after this as Blamey formed up his Australian Corps with the addition of the 6th and later 9th divisions.That was the reason why there was little Australian contribution to Operation Crusader. Ostensibly the reason was to defend from a German attack from the north through Turkey but also had a lot to do with the poor relationship between Blamey and British commanders.
@bernhardjordan9200
@bernhardjordan9200 2 жыл бұрын
16:43 " I don't want to get in french politics because it's stupid" No truer statement
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 2 жыл бұрын
I actually never knew about this campaign. Very interesting!
@agesflow6815
@agesflow6815 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, TIKHistory.
@hisdadjames4876
@hisdadjames4876 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, Lewis, and thanks for another year of thoughtful and thrilling content. You have a hugely influential impact on your audience, I’m sure. 👏👏👏
@eze8970
@eze8970 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks TIK, enjoyed that!
@johngraham3697
@johngraham3697 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant short analysis. Thank you.
@rwdyeriii
@rwdyeriii 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video TIK. I hope you had a great Christmas and have a wonderful New Year.
@martinMD
@martinMD 2 жыл бұрын
Another huge informative history lesson well done TIK
@davidhyams2769
@davidhyams2769 2 жыл бұрын
In May 1941, my Dad, who was in the RAMC, was posted to Alexandria to be the medical orderly on a troop train heading to Palestine with troops due to take part in this action. When he arrived at Alexandria, the Transport Officer was also waiting for medical personnel to take ship to Crete. This officer mistakenly believed that my Dad was destined for Crete, so Dad went to Crete instead. You don't argue with a senior officer! Dad was posted missing for several weeks due to this mix-up as he never arrived in Palestine where he was expected. He remained on board the ship in Suda Bay, subjected to daily bombings by Luftwaffe, but made it back safely to Egypt about a month later, when he presented himself back at the unit he had initially been detached from for his journey to Palestine.
@snuscaboose1942
@snuscaboose1942 2 жыл бұрын
Your Dad's story is illustrative. The military can be a machine, it's easiest to follow the prescribed routine, Army knows best, confine your creativity to the role you must perform in your team. Equally, decisions are made on the available information, your father seemed to fail to offer more accurate information due to a fear of offending superiors, that's dysfunctional in a chain of command, why was your Dad fearful of fulfilling his role, someone up the chain is not doing their job. The superior should be offered all available information, such as "Sir, the orders I was given, by so and so, are to accompany a troop train heading to Palestine". Then it's up to the superior in the chain of command to make a call. It's up to the superior officer to foster an environment where information can flow freely.
@davidhyams2769
@davidhyams2769 2 жыл бұрын
@@snuscaboose1942 You pose an interesting question. My Dad was known to be someone who always stood up for his rights and principles. He's no longer around to ask about this but he did record his memoirs, which I have just listened to again to refresh my memory. I cannot believe that he was sent to Alexandria without movement orders, specifying where he was to go and all other necessary details. But apparently, the Transport Officer didn't care about any of this. He insisted that Dad was a "volunteer" for Crete and threatened to charge him with disobeying a direct order to sign the "volunteer" form if he continued to argue. I cannot imagine that such a charge would have stood up, but Dad didn't want to take the risk. To make this whole situation worse, Dad's CO had given him what was supposed to be a cushy job, just taking the train to Jerusalem and having a couple of days R&R there before coming back to Egypt, not accompanying the troops to Syria.
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 2 жыл бұрын
Crete's beautiful, I'm glad he got to see it.
@davidhyams2769
@davidhyams2769 2 жыл бұрын
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music That is such a crass, insensitive statement. He never went ashore. He was on a ship in Suda Bay, being attacked by the Luftwaffe every day and having to care for the wounded soldiers being brought on board from the island. I've been to Crete myself and, yes, the island is beautiful and the people are so friendly. but I don't think my Dad had the chance to appreciate this.
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhyams2769 THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A JOKE.
@minxythemerciless
@minxythemerciless 2 жыл бұрын
Sort of interesting is that Syria ended up with a very large amount of German weapons after the war including tanks and the iconic Sturmgewehr 44. The tanks at least were used in the battles against Israel.
@BountyFlamor
@BountyFlamor 2 жыл бұрын
Those tanks were prizes from the Soviet Union after the war, though.
@christophersmith5691
@christophersmith5691 2 жыл бұрын
Yes those weapons were supplied by the USSR, often through Czechoslovakia. Israel obtained things the same way, though sometimes illicitly
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 2 жыл бұрын
some rebel groups in syria still use the stg 44 to this day.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 24 күн бұрын
Read somewhere years ago that Syria ended up with a quantity of Panzer IVs and used them after the War.
@bjarthernhovde1501
@bjarthernhovde1501 2 жыл бұрын
Another great one.
@davidrussell8689
@davidrussell8689 2 жыл бұрын
Superb quality . Thank you for explaining these “ back-waters “ in the conflict and I agree that the bottom line of strategic decisions are economic reasons. Well done .
@russellnixon9981
@russellnixon9981 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent historical content on a important and over looked subject. I always wondered what De Gaul was doing in Syria and now I know. Thank you for a concise explanation.
@paulbabcock2428
@paulbabcock2428 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. As always another great vid from TIK.
@scottlindsly
@scottlindsly 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's not hypocrisy nor a "war crime" as long as you win the war & control the narrative
@nicholasconder4703
@nicholasconder4703 2 жыл бұрын
And another reason why Churchill once said that the greatest cross he had to bear during the war was the Cross of Lorraine.
@RobertReg1
@RobertReg1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, thank you
@jayjayson9613
@jayjayson9613 2 жыл бұрын
18000 Australian troops?! Did they ever think to themselves "WTF are we doing here, in this part of the world?" Fascinating that the majority of the troops were Australians.
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine ANZACs thought that to themselves all the time in both wars
@ramozj6997
@ramozj6997 2 жыл бұрын
The Allies thought the French would not fight the Aussies due to ANZAC sacrifice for France during WW1.
@stevep4384
@stevep4384 2 жыл бұрын
It's hot there. -same reason as for Gallipoli in WW1.
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Жыл бұрын
The Australian cavalry are the ones that captured Damascus in WW1
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 24 күн бұрын
Very sadly, a lot of these troops were brought back to Singapore to resist Jap march southwards and ended up in Jap POW camps.
@billniederauer5599
@billniederauer5599 2 жыл бұрын
This website is a blessing.
@IndSovU
@IndSovU 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas! You do great work, so no worries about being behind on answering questions.
@user-bi6db6sr8j
@user-bi6db6sr8j 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy every video/ Keep it up! Really appreciate it
@evil1143
@evil1143 2 жыл бұрын
I know you're bummed about the viewer count on the bankwar series but don't give up on it, it's great content.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
How can you tell I'm bummed by it?
@evil1143
@evil1143 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TheImperatorKnight oooo I'm watching you... Sign 1: Sneer at 17:52 suggesting that the topic of economics that you've already covered is more important (and requires more attention/viewership) than the limited military perspective that this video provides. sign 2 : You going out of your way to say that you poured your heart and soul into it. sign 3: You recommended it as the next video to watch, worried that it'l be forgotten behind the weekly routine of fresh videos. sign 4: In your "How BIG was the Red Army in WW2?" video a commenter "george press" said "Man waited all week for a 9 minute video, lol. Love your channel keep up the good work" and you said "I know, but last week was an hour-long video and hardly anyone watched it :(" Greenwich time is around 3am where I'm from but I'd still get up then for another video in that series, I didn't realise how much more interesting banks are compared to tanks.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is, you're spot on!
@BalenCM
@BalenCM 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, as always, hope you have a great 2022
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good investment by the Germans of a few Me110s sent to Syria and the British pull out troops of North Africa, almost losing it...
@jj-qy6ty
@jj-qy6ty 2 жыл бұрын
thnx fot the festive video tik, merry xmas for us, jolly new year to you.
@corey8420
@corey8420 2 жыл бұрын
de Gaulle, did not have a military in 1941, really bugs me people talk about France as if there were a real resistance against the Germanys after 1940. Judging from all I have learned, a majority of France collaborated with Germany. The relevance of the "French Resistance", has been grossly over aggregated to clear the collective conscious of France.
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 2 жыл бұрын
France did not even have military in 1939. French resistance are mostly leftist. I doubt you learn anything. Vichy France are not even collaborating with Germany properly since all they did just doing infighting and more happy killing other French citizen and it went so bad that many of them flee the country and join SS when France liberated by allies.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 2 жыл бұрын
Yes de gaulle did have a military in 1941, that’s how they were able to occupy several French colonies including Syria. The Free French were a force going around the world turning colonies from Petain to De Gaulle, basically recapturing the empire first, while the motherland was occupied. De Gaulle and Free France had basically nothing to do with the mainland France until it was recaptured by the Americans
@kilometer561
@kilometer561 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video TIK. I was unaware of the Syrian campaign. Have a great New Year and I am looking forward to more of your excellence in 2022.
@jamesbeeching4341
@jamesbeeching4341 2 жыл бұрын
Good video TIK...Roald Dhal was involved in this campaign as a fighter pilot! Also when I visited Lebanon in tbe mid 90s I saw stele (carvings in rock faces) that commemorated Britains invasion in 1941.This was next to one carved out by Alexander the Great!!!!
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 2 жыл бұрын
Great video TIK
@sedargames8161
@sedargames8161 2 жыл бұрын
1:12 this map is incorrect as it presents Northern Dobrudja as a part of Romania when at this point due to the Treaty of Craiova, it would have been a part of Bulgaria
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Good spot! Thank you for pointing it out
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 2 жыл бұрын
Also Southern Bessarabia/Budjak would be part of the Soviet Union too
@Dhjaru
@Dhjaru 2 жыл бұрын
To me the map seems to be a 1936? Map because all border changes after that seem to be have less detail. and memel is also given to the soviets when it should have been in german hands.
@Sean-tv1qn
@Sean-tv1qn 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning your map used in the video: Cyprus was a British colony back then and should therefore be painted in the same colour as Britain.:)
@worldhistorys-md2rz
@worldhistorys-md2rz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 😎 and I hope u had a awesome Christmas tik
@CalebNorthNorman
@CalebNorthNorman 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@davidjhall5315
@davidjhall5315 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't now about that part of the war. Just goes to show there more to understand. Great show tik.
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
It’s more relevant to ask why Britain and France forced Israel onto Palestine after WW2. It was to ensure a western presence in the Levant.
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 2 жыл бұрын
Have a happy holiday tik.
@leonardoandresfacello3941
@leonardoandresfacello3941 2 жыл бұрын
Your chanel y very good. Please more videos with subtitles
@oldmanriver1955
@oldmanriver1955 2 жыл бұрын
My father was a infantry soldier with the Australian 2/33rd Battalion, 25th Brigade, 7th Division that led the Australian advance into Syria.
@bryangrote8781
@bryangrote8781 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this little known campaign. First video I’ve ever seen on it.🃏👍
@jaroslavpalecek4513
@jaroslavpalecek4513 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@onthatrockhewillbuildhisch1510
@onthatrockhewillbuildhisch1510 2 жыл бұрын
De Gaulle already had territory representing 'France Libre' in Chad, Equatorial Africa, Cameroons, and New Caledonia (and French India and Polynesia). He had small numbers of military forces in Britain, Somaliland-East Africa, Libya and Chad. Syria would ADD to 'France Libre'' - not be its first capital -(which was Brazzaville). Cheers!.
@BoqPrecision
@BoqPrecision 2 жыл бұрын
French Somaliland would later become: "Djibouti"
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoqPrecision yep but first it became the French Territory of the Afars and Issas, the two ethnic groups there, who later fought a civil war. Djibouti today hosts 8 foreign military bases (including both America and Communist China) but has not felt the payoff and is sadly one of the poorest countries in the world.
@BoqPrecision
@BoqPrecision 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLocalLt I'm an Issa. It's not an ethnic group but a Somali sub-clan part of the Dir tribe.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoqPrecision thank you sir for educating me. I find the history and culture of the horn of Africa to be very fascinating
@illjan
@illjan 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask how you create the maps for these videos? I really am interested in how you, and other history channels for that matter, always have maps for your videos, which are accurate to the situation, or even show change happen (looking at videos that show certain territory gain day by day or similar). I don't know if you have some tricks up your sleeve to make it easier, since I know you have a lot to do and can't imagine you would spent a boat load of effort into a single map for a single video
@robinstevenson6690
@robinstevenson6690 2 жыл бұрын
The campaign in Syria, Iraq, and Iran was one of the important turning points of WWII. It gave an important morale and personnel boost to the Free French forces and was a way stating clearly that France would be fighting back against the Axis from then on. It cleared up the Arab/Muslim threat to the British in the Middle East. It led to the establishment of a year-round transportation network for Lend-Lease deliveries to the Soviet Union.
@florinivan6907
@florinivan6907 2 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking Free France. Vichy France was at war with the Allies. Vichy France was just as much french as Free France. Actually it was more french than Free France since it fought against the english. What is more french than that? Like it or not but France was in a de facto civil war its just that the ones on the Allied side won and the losers were declared illegitimate. But they kind of weren't.
@mappingshaman5280
@mappingshaman5280 2 жыл бұрын
@@florinivan6907 well the free french were fighting the germans which is arguably equally as french as fighting the english.
@theFutureSoundWaves
@theFutureSoundWaves 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Syrian, it was pretty interesting to learn this part of history. It was kinda clouded by the other parts of modern Syrian history. Thank you for your work and happy new year!
@adamr5307
@adamr5307 2 жыл бұрын
Wdym former Syrian?
@louplibre9734
@louplibre9734 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamr5307 Maybe he fled Syria just like 20% of the population (can you imagine that , 20% Syrians abroad mainly in the middle east and particularly in Turkey , even white immigrés fleeing bolchevism weren't near this percentage at all)
@adamr5307
@adamr5307 2 жыл бұрын
@@louplibre9734 leaving your country doesn't change where you're from
@bobi6623
@bobi6623 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't saying anti jewish be better than saying anti semites since arent arabs semites as well?
@marcwiart5657
@marcwiart5657 2 жыл бұрын
That's stupid British politics but lets not ever admit that!
@lowtierwaifu3881
@lowtierwaifu3881 2 жыл бұрын
"Syria is such a beautiful country, it would be a shame not to send troops to vacation there." -British thought leaders
@omarkassas2760
@omarkassas2760 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm Syrian and never knew about this. Minor thing:arabs are not anti-semitec since we are a semitec people. Arabs back then were against a jewish state in palastine but they were not anti semitec.
@angryrushfan7725
@angryrushfan7725 2 жыл бұрын
True Syrian arabs are semitic, but overall they still hold less than favorable views on the Jews. There's a reason why the SS had so many arab volunteers, not to mention the German war criminals who sought asylum in Syria/Middle East.
@calumdeighton
@calumdeighton 2 жыл бұрын
It's the small fronts and wee conflicts that things seem to revolve around the most. Manpower and resources were being sapped out of Britain to deal with an Arab Problem. Will definitely need to re-go through this. But this reminds me a tad about Burma and how that side Front played some big bits in the Far East. And how Finland, kinda, dictated a fair bit of the USSR's resources alongside with dealing with the Germans. And the Japanese as well. It's the details in the side conflicts that seem to have the most significant impact on things yet to come.
@dalgoodman619
@dalgoodman619 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a gunner with the Australian 7th Division during this campaign.
@christophersmith5691
@christophersmith5691 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting story, well told.
@deanmurphy5735
@deanmurphy5735 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode TIK. My uncle took part in this campaign. You are right about the maps. He told me his company commander used a map he got out of the bible.
@SaulKopfenjager
@SaulKopfenjager 2 жыл бұрын
STICK TO BANKS! (or, stick it to the banks, but seriously it was a hard & costly fight in Syria in '41 for both sides, I have read it was a difficult, distasteful fight against friends in Australian records.)
@jefaus06
@jefaus06 2 жыл бұрын
The Interesting thing about the Australian 7th Division is that there was a media blackout about this campaign. They didn't want people knowing that they had attacked the French. That is how the 7th Division got the name "the Silent Seventh". They were instructed not to talk about this part of the Mediterranean Campaign. This blooding of the Division in Syria assisted them when they were sent to New Guinea to block the Japanese on their drive down the Kokoda Track.
@ajsimo2677
@ajsimo2677 2 жыл бұрын
It couldn't have been much of a media blackout because the campaign is reported in The Times newspapers of June & July 1941, and the fighting against Vichy French forces is specifically mentioned. British, Australian & Free French forces are referred to (but not the names of their units).
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't been aware of British involvement in Syria with respect to the French in 1945.
@LinhHLe
@LinhHLe 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on, This time for Indochina
@JackRSlim
@JackRSlim 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about French British relationship
@Hopeforhumans
@Hopeforhumans 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the great work. a small note "Port Said" is pronounced "Port Saeed" with a long e.
@timzales5344
@timzales5344 2 жыл бұрын
Compass Games has a board game called Forgotten Legions where you can play out the 1941 Syrian campaign. Interesting situation!
@TheTrollTeamNL
@TheTrollTeamNL 2 жыл бұрын
Which source is refering to the claim that syrians were antisemitic?? It would help me a lot
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
Next up: Why did Churchill and Stalin jointly invade Iran in 1941? I would guess exactly analogous logic.
@user-bi6db6sr8j
@user-bi6db6sr8j 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks)
@jeffreymalinowski4091
@jeffreymalinowski4091 2 жыл бұрын
Hey TIK- I’ve been watching your videos and on-and-off subscriber for about two years now (sometimes WW2 is just a little too heavy for my KZbin timeline). In all seriousness what kind of patreon subscription or donation would it take for you to do a couple videos related to WW2 in the pacific? Love your vids about the war in Europe and keep up the good work
@linnharamis1496
@linnharamis1496 2 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting discussion About a little known campaign at the beginning of World War II - thank you.👍
@COLINJELY
@COLINJELY 2 жыл бұрын
Sir Rhoden Cutler VC, AK, KCMG., KCVO, CBE former Governor of New South Wales, won his VC during the fighting on the Litani River.
@atankie71
@atankie71 11 ай бұрын
Israeli General Moshe Dyan lost his eye scouting for the Australian division.
@aaroncurley2377
@aaroncurley2377 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not 2 years behind; you were just letting suspense build for 2 years 😂 Love your videos!
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Holidays :D
@penguin6815
@penguin6815 2 жыл бұрын
Merry christmas and happy new year to all
@Kimballion
@Kimballion 2 жыл бұрын
Having played World Conquerer too many times.. I didn't know France Syria was THAT big
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 2 жыл бұрын
Screw that game and everything it stands for
@Kimballion
@Kimballion 2 жыл бұрын
@@samsonsoturian6013 why? I've had fun time playing the series
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kimballion understand it teaches virtually nothing about history.
@davidgifford8112
@davidgifford8112 2 жыл бұрын
Getting Britain to pull substantial troop numbers out of the Libyan front at the cost of a few aircraft sent to the Levant seems like a smart way to potentially fatally weaken the 8th Army. Even if Germany didn’t see a landing in Syria as being viable, it would have been worrying possibility for Churchill as this would have put the Gulf oil fields in jeopardy. As an aside my father was part of the 1945 re-conquest of Syria. In his words “We were sent to re-acquire Syria for the French” Interesting what the troops were told was the objective of the operation.
@darklysm8345
@darklysm8345 2 жыл бұрын
Germany invade Denmark and Norway for strategic reasons: wroooong baaad Uk invade Iran, Syria, Iceland for strategic reasons: gooood, nothing to see here
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 2 жыл бұрын
The only form of neutrality that is universally respected and will prevent you from being invaded is armed neutrality (looking at you, Switzerland)
@yochaiwyss3843
@yochaiwyss3843 2 жыл бұрын
Not justifying Iran (And not knowing enough of Iceland to speak of it) But keep in mind that Vichy France *was* a German Puppet. They did whatever the Germans told them to, up to and including giving away their own citizens. As TIK explained here, had the Germans not sent their troops, small as they may have been, the French in Syria would not have had to be invaded.
@boristhebarbarian
@boristhebarbarian 2 жыл бұрын
1 extra reason for the British invasion of the Levant; the oil pipelines from Kirkuk. 1 section ran via Transjordan to Haifa (fully under British control), the 2nd section ran via French Syria to Tripoli, Lebanon. The extra oil flowing from that pipeline helped the British later on in the North Africa campaign.
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 2 жыл бұрын
"It's the economy, stupid!"
@morewi
@morewi 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the east Africa campaign the Italians had invaded first and completely took over British Somalia
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and I covered that here kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZDbqmqIeNJoftE
@morewi
@morewi 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImperatorKnight thanks for the link
@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 2 жыл бұрын
Buds in, going to the gym listening. Training body and mind at the same time.
@nicholasconder4703
@nicholasconder4703 2 жыл бұрын
Pity you didn't have a chance to make more than a passing reference to the siege of Royal Air Force Station Habbaniya, which is what kicked off the invasion of Iraq in 1940.
@flying0possum
@flying0possum 2 жыл бұрын
The far left will start randomly saying that it's "too long"
@tamerlane3931
@tamerlane3931 2 жыл бұрын
my father witnessed these events as a young man he said that australian and senegalese troops were stationed in beirut, and the locals did not like it the lebanese patriots were hoping that Rommel would break out from africa and liberate them . some even named their newborns "rommel". lol i know 3 old men with the unlikely name always found that hilarious!
@oceanmadrosci3381
@oceanmadrosci3381 2 жыл бұрын
Will you make video about "Darlean Deal"?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 2 жыл бұрын
I will, but probably when I cover Operation Torch
@yuval0658
@yuval0658 2 жыл бұрын
Moshe dayan lost his eye during the 1941 syria campaign
@telx2010
@telx2010 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to answer once you realize, the world is a stage.
@user-gp5xc4tj4l
@user-gp5xc4tj4l 2 жыл бұрын
Hi tik can you make video about the business plot against fdr
@chalkboy8
@chalkboy8 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tik. Where can I get the Stalingrad map?
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 2 жыл бұрын
Also note the Syrian nationalists claimed all the land part of Ottoman Syria and then some. This included Transjordan, Palestine, and maybe Lebanon.
@overdose8329
@overdose8329 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely Lebanon as well. Lebanon never existed as an entity before the French invented it. Closest in time to Lebanon in a somewhat similar capacity were some crusader states and before that city states like Tyre and whatnot.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 2 жыл бұрын
@@overdose8329 there were autonomous warlords in the area with ambiguous relationships to Damascus. The Damascan Sultan would get angry if anyone said he wasn't in charge of Lebanon, but that means nothing
@dingusdean1905
@dingusdean1905 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual. One small thing I want to say is that the colour of Iraq is very similar to that of the UK, so some colour blind people might have trouble telling it apart. I hope that helps in future videos :D
@ALIKN1-1
@ALIKN1-1 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel heart broken when I think of the colour blind or blind people and who can't hear 😢😢
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 2 жыл бұрын
It's really cool to learn about the part of WW2 on how vichy french and free french maneuver with each others
@Ivsanval
@Ivsanval 2 жыл бұрын
The campaign that cost Moshe Dayan an eye.
@sigcola
@sigcola 2 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend, i have a request for you..why don't you do a work as the stalingrad battle, about all the IIWW? you will need 2 or 3 years, but it will be a fabolous thing-.. the series should be 1) Heeresgruppe Nord nach Leningrad 2) Heeresgruppe Mitte nech Moskwa 3) Heeresgruppe Sud nach Kiyv 4) Winter Sowietische counteroffensiv (1941-'42 near Moskwa) 5) Ladoga See Sowietische conuteroffensive (to open the supply weg to Leningrad) 6) Battle for Stalingrad (that alredy exist) 7) Battle of Kursk 8) Grosse Sowietische offensive in 1943-'44 9) Destruction of the Heeresgruppe Mitte (Offensive nach Orsha and Minsk) 10) The Kurland Poket (alredy exist) 11) The Last offensives 1944-'45 12) Battle for Berlin That's about the East Front, but we also have the Italian front, a really wonderfull front to speak about and, the west front with the americans.. ;) i hope you should like to do it.. i think you will have a lot of fun.. bye my friend
@davidlisovtsev6607
@davidlisovtsev6607 2 жыл бұрын
it was necessary because Dayan had to lose an eye to a French sniper so he'd a cool looking politician
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 2 жыл бұрын
Nixon: "I hear you have the best army in the world." Dayan: "I don't know, we only ever fought Arabs."
@Patrickseventyfour
@Patrickseventyfour 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to go into French politics because it's stupid" is my new favorite line.
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