Why Did Evenepoel Pace Primoz Roglic on Sierra Nevada? Vuelta a España 2022 Stage 15

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[@endautrestermes]

Man, the quality of those highlights are insane. Feels like a prime time national broadcast, but better. Thanks for the amazing work.

[@helvettefaensatan]

Prime time is not for cyclists. We need to hide on the internet like this.

[@endautrestermes]

@@helvettefaensatan in a way it's a good thing

[@nicholasloduca6668]

The only reason I can think of for Roglic not trying to go with Mas and Lopez or attack earlier is because he couldn't. I feel like Roglic is the rider that when he feels good, he always in front and on the front foot attacking. When he doesn't feel good, he sits in the wheels. He's not like a Carapaz or someone who bluffs when he sits in the wheels. Maybe if he did that more, it might help him but he's a true racer and gotta respect that. All in all, fifteen seconds loss of Remco I think was pretty close to best case scenario for him on this stage.

[@robertdevries2045]

i think roglic knew how the 2 spanjards wouldn't play together, so he had to pace those 2 up the mountain. when he was really good he could have used those 2 while they were like 3 seconds in front all the time

[@goemon4]

@@robertdevries2045 no roglic just didnt feel good. Man was in his limit, not in a good way

[@polkadotjersey4884]

IMO he didnt feel confident enough to go completely on his own. So he let RE pace not to lose Mas and Rog only decided for a couple of mins efford. Probably worried he goes with Mas he is efficiently chased by RE.

[@manuel7102]

Watching Roglic when he was with Remco and O'Connor I was under the impression he was pretty cooked as well: I think he was able to distance Remco only because he was a little bit less cooked than him and he saved more energies

[@skippypicasso]

yeah, Roglic didn’t have enough recovery time after his Tour crash and it has hurt him this Vuelta. I’m impressed he’s doing as well as he is to be honest.

[@famousatmidnight15]

Remco is incredibly smart rider. Pacing when alone rather than get caught up in the stop / start riding ensured no one got too much time.

[@chicklechives]

"This is the base of a 1 hour climb" It's easy to forget how brutal this is.

[@xx765]

Remco has finally learnt to ride smartly. He would not win any important GC if he rides like himself in Hammer Series Limburg 2019. But that one was truly spectacular.

[@ethanfoy4264]

a stage not as exciting as i expected. smart ride from remco not going hard on either of the two past stages not following moves and not letting himself crack. this vuelta will come down to remco’s week three form, and with no TT to be his saving grace perhaps Mas might be his biggest rival, he’s been in better form than i think most people expected

[@Fyr35555]

Mas needs a last hurrah from Valverde to help him to victory imo. El bala launching an attack on stage 20 for Mas to drop everyone :D

[@dudel39]

Great performance by Mas. People were saying he was gonna suffer on the high altitude climb. In the end he beat all the gc riders.

[@wbrant6274]

Once again, amazing commentary. I really look forward to this every day. And I’m really liking this tour, Tours France was a great battle but this is a real nailbiter

[@danshort10]

Idk watching JV drop pogi on the col du granon and then the hautacam was so entertaining this year and watching WVA just completely show out made every stage really fun to watch. There is still potential for some final week dramatics

[@epincion]

Looks like Ineos made a great investment in Thymen Arensman

[@tubbytoast2]

Remco riding like a someone with a 10 year pro career , keep the pace super tempo and if your rivals attack in the last few kms.. doesn't matter plenty of time up the your sleeve ,,save engine for another day!?!

[@2tlance]

Exactly! To me it was the smartest move of the day when Remco just let Roglic do his thing and not counter it at the expense of losing only a few seconds, but while gaining a day of perhaps fresher legs strategically before a rest day. Not one but two days of cooling out a bit for Remco just before the last week of racing. Dude has been racing like he's been doing it for decades. What a show he's putting on!

[@peterderidder2655]

Remco looked back to see if there where teammates comming back. Today we saw a FANTASTIC race ! Roglic and mas didnt do what they had to do. Remco was riding his own tempo up to the climb and lost only 15 seconds against roglic who haved forrced himself again .... We have a lot of nice discoveries this vuelta with jay vine and the young 19 year old racer. Nice for the future !!!

[@mrloop1530]

I was asking myself the same question, and kind of expected an attempt at an explanation in this clip. Anyways; as always the quality of the recap is in category H. The only possible answers to the question, I came up with, was: 1. Evenepoel was keeping Mas in range. 2. Evenepoel was discouraging Roglic from attacking.

[@sean7098]

Pretty sure both are true. He prefers tempo rather than stop start so he should keep the pace constant

[@mrloop1530]

@@sean7098 Yup, me too.

[@RubenTheCartographer]

Commented yesterday that Arensman would show up sometime soon .. but I was slightly suprised it was so soon

[@S2Sturges]

Spot on analysis of the stage...! The Saturday stage will be the decider I reckon, Primoz just keep chipping away, if he gets only a minute down, I can expect him to ride himself inside out..A wonderful tactical battle sharing up...

[@funkydisciple]

Love your analysis of the stage. The only place I come to for that content.

[@jesusredondo513]

Ayuso last km sprinting abilities are crazy. It is like Almeida but with sprinting skills

[@XavierHipolito]

Almeida has that sprinting too

[@svencornelis7932]

Super strong finish from Ayuso. Bit weird why he couldn't follow from the beginning

[@XavierHipolito]

@@svencornelis7932 positioning

[@stafgruglnioe5122]

did you notice how many times remco is looking down at his power meter? I think it's smart to just pace yourself the max output possible, to not follow attacks resulting in power peaks and decreasing efficiency

[@willross5108]

Awesome breakdown, RE is all like, I’m just ride to the finish, you should take my wheel!

[@bitminerbob6731]

Well done to Vine for defending the Poka dot jersey!!

[@JJ-wq5ey]

Ótima esplanação das metas e objetivos das equipes... Ótimo comentarista!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@miguelpereira9859]

Ayuso and Almeida did well they were putting pressure on C. Rodriguez and eventually made him crack, M. Soler should have definitely dropped back to help them way before that

[@MangoJasssss]

I just wonder how much Soler has left in the legs. Been in multiple breakaways, had a miserable TDF…

[@XavierHipolito]

Agree!

[@faosa73]

@@MangoJasssss well he should have enough to stop as soon as he was passed and help some

[@rhyswilliams695]

Stoked to see Remco in red, but even after the ITT, I knew his real challenge would be in week 3. I hope he can hang on!

[@Misterterrence]

Remco told after the race that he was keeping a tight tempo to ensure there weren´t to muc changes of tempo wich suits him less

[@FlAsHX40]

Love your vids, they are the best !

[@iminc5498]

Almeida having the time of his life just playing PCM. That dude is strong enough to be up there, but just be doing his own thing 😂

[@joaopinto4535]

He definitly not on his best shape in this Vuelta but the man sure can come up from the back in the climbs! He does get caught out of position some times but he comes back almost everytime xD

[@tbcfc]

I swear say Harper’s been good for Jumbo in every video😭 Love it

[@stefanjoeres7149]

Not in the Basque country stages

[@RubenTheCartographer]

@@stefanjoeres7149 Nah he grew into the Vuelta, which he also has mentioned

[@outtatrex]

As a Dutchman, I have seen enough... Thymen Arensman is the new Tom Dumoulin.

[@outtatrex]

Roglic

[@jelleducheyne]

He's a better climber than Dumoulin.

[@svencornelis7932]

The only thing Remco could've done better was perhaps following Mas. If we see that the time gap at the end was just 36 seconds and Mas had some help from Lopez, De La Cruz ,... But still 1:30 in front, so at the moment a perfect Vuelta for Remco

[@sean7098]

If he follows Mas, Roglic and O'Connor are in the wheel, Mas isn't going to pace him either, so he is having to start pacing again after closing Mas down and then maybe having to respond to more Mas attacks

[@paulsolon6229]

Remco smart today We wd expect that he is still hurting from crash. But loses only 15 Surprise to me. I thought pre race that Remco was not good enough to win. Now he looks too tough to lose.

[@pauljansen1137]

Remco did everything right at this climb...he knew he would lose more time....why not stay with Roglic and let everyone else go?

[@miguelpereira9859]

Yes staying with Roglic was the right move because after Más attacked the pressure was also on Rogla to chase

[@Draregkoeliekalie]

Rogla will not chase Mas. He wants to win, doesnt care about 2 or 3. So he will let Evenepoel chase.

[@miguelpereira9859]

@@Draregkoeliekalie Maybe

[@robertdevries2045]

imo he just made a mistake. i think mas is the better climber and mas has shown to have a good third week in him, he let both riders gain some time. he lost half his advantage on roglic in 2 days

[@AnttiBrax]

@@Draregkoeliekalie Yeah 28000€ says your claim is complete bollocks.

[@dirgsuite5546]

When Roglic went to the back after the attack at the foot of Sierra Nevada, Jumbo was trying to set a trap for Evenepoel. Jumbo hoped he would go solo and later run out of steam. But Quickstep was smart. Knowing that Roglic did not seem stronger than Evenepoel, they decided to keep one tempo that he could maintain till the top or till close to the top. It saved his Vuelta. The kid took all the right decisions and became a grant tour winner. Then he kept this form into the worlds.

[@philipparrock8147]

My question is, will Roglic and Jumbo Visma go all in to win La Vuelta? Maybe even cracking and losing ten minutes. Or do they play it safe, attacking for bonus seconds and 15 second gaps here and there and secure second? Probably losing the Vuelta by 60 seconds?

[@holymackenaw]

it feals a littel bit like a snails race between Remco, Rogla and Mas. (i am sorry for the comparison). Each one of them tries to survive and when they attack they have to be very careful not to overdo it because then they will crack themselves.

[@sergiodemichele6295]

Climbs with average gradient under 8% are most times disappointing

[@DerMef]

The Galibier is below 8% and still legendary. Sierra Nevada is a similar climb: long, high altitude but not extremely steep. It's just not the best for a stage finish. Unfortunately the Vuelta usually has stages that have either a good final climb or a long, high altitude climb, but not both in the same stage like the Tour de France.

[@nick1368]

Agree Col du Granon was extremely steep and it was epic

[@Fyr35555]

@@DerMef the north side of the Galibier is 17km at 7% and that includes a false flat so much of it is actually 8%+. Sierra Nevada on the other hand is 21km at 7% but the first 5km average about 11% so in reality most of the climb even while at altitude is only 5-6%. Which makes a massive difference. The south side of the Galibier is also less steep but at least is regularly over 7-8% in the last kms. But I definitely agree that in Spain its hard to find a combination of long high altitude climbs and good final ones. Actually ignore what I said about Sierra Nevada according to the Vuelta website its actually 7.9% average not 6.9% as I had thought. Anyway the gradient is definitely still not as hard in places, where its only 5-6% in the middle of the climb.

[@Slow.Smooth]

That’s usually where aero still kind of matters

[@ItsMinarmy]

The third week doesn't look easy at all, 17, 18, 19 & 20 will be fun

[@l.v.3952]

It’s not too difficult tho. Pretty easy to control probably

[@mmmbass6068]

@@l.v.3952 yeah but if teams think not too difficult, then those looking to take GC or top 10 try to create opportunities, which can lead to chaos etc and some interesting racing

[@larsvisscher0410]

Stage 17 10km at 5%, stage 18 13km at 5%, stage 19 9km at 5.3% 30km from the finish, stage 20 10.3km at 6.9% 8km from the finish. That are all climbs that are really suited to Evenepoel and were draft really matters so only with like mulltiple masive attacks and satalite riders that can provide draft on those 4% parts I don't see anyone gaining more than 20/30sec. So Roglic would have to do that on 3 stages to make up the difference. Evenepoel has this Vuelta almost in the bag.

[@elizabeth7862]

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[@timocuyvers1501]

because he likes a steady state tempo, intervals (=demarages) are not for him

[@mihailoilic6070]

Mas has very good chance to win La Vuelta.

[@henkoosterink8744]

🤣

[@peterers3]

Patrick you are Ruthlessly overqualified for a cycling commentator!

[@CoWulfse]

love the vids

[@patpat8727]

The answer is youthful exuberance. Maybe too much. But he did enough I think to be in the lead come stage 20. What happens then, only time travelers can know.

[@sean7098]

It actually made a lot of sense tactically

[@patpat8727]

@@sean7098 I disagree. Could have done the same thing from behind and been able to see what was going on in front of him. He gained nothing by pulling.

[@skippypicasso]

It’s time to scrap the Young Rider jersey and have an Old Guy jersey in the Grand Tours

[@savagepro9060]

Related news: Let's all remember, Ancient Rome started the Tour of Britain. Back then it was aptly called Itinere Britanniae!

[@ReVoltaire]

Iter Britanniae? (Itinere is the abl. case, sometimes used without a preposition to indicate separation from a place)

[@savagepro9060]

@@ReVoltaire Google translate, because I am Latin illiterate

[@faosa73]

Hard to understand UAE tactics. Soler already had a win but is still free to do whatever

[@miekaaahh]

Everyone watching roglic and evenepoel but without a tt coming up I think that mas is the most dangerous

[@adrianbuck8772]

Look at the stages left. Its something Remco and Quick Step can control outside of stage 20. And there he "just" has to follow Roglic and Mas.

[@jesusredondo513]

Hope he finds the strenght to attack again!

[@miekaaahh]

Stage 20 is a killer

[@fabiokrause10]

The upcoming stages suit him better. Maybe He can regain some time there. Stage 20 He just have to follow.

[@marcprins3841]

@@fabiokrause10 i think remco migth win stage 20 he better in those races he won LBL and SAN Sebastion 2 hard 1 day races but much gone depend on his team

[@claytonive3240]

Is the LR gcn+ discount code still a thing?

[@mochno1]

He paced, because he can. And, to make a friend eventually :)

[@drewcama2488]

An Other rest day already!

[@coopaloopmex]

I can only think if Remco was 100% on first week, decent on 2nd week (after the TT of course), why should we think he will be back to 100% on Week 3? I think Roglic is betting on being better in Week 3. If he can't beat Remco in Week 3, fine. But I'm putting my odds on Primoz and Enric. This could be a fireworks Week 3 of La Vuelta

[@patpat8727]

most of the stages up to stage 20 are pretty easy though. Stage 20 is definitely not.

[@de4ds1ghtcsgo94]

He's pacing with a plan. What i think is remco is pushing 95 percent max.

[@doctorSpoc]

For sure AG2R Citroën totally screwed up Jumbo-Visma’s plans with bizarrely intense pacing (and didn’t help themselves much either), but WHY did Jumbo send EVERYONE back from the break at most steep portion of the climb where they would be at their LEAST helpful instead of farther up the climb where they could be of help?? ..head shakingly bizarre.. why not stagger them..??

[@galenkehler]

Remco knows he's going to crack soon, so he's doing what he can to help Primoz before he goes home.

[@samwalschap791]

Before going into week 3, who do you think will win this year's Vuelta?

[@Rughead12319]

The Vuelta is a better race than the Tour de France..Never boring

[@elonif4125]

The Tour was epic this year though.

[@TopgunB]

Roglic mot in top form. No way Mas beats him or O Connor stays on his wheel when he is at his best.

[@jb6879]

losing 15 seconds isn't 'holding'. thats a loss.

[@ivanstrle346]

Remco is in great form. In top form. He is playing with other GC riders.

[@davorlj83]

Kaj je s tabo??

[@ivanstrle346]

@@davorlj83Komentiram. Ne odgovarjaj na moje komentarje.

[@davorlj83]

Če onaniraš.... še en zafrustriranec....

[@npa5825]

Poorly executed by Jumbo, not coreographed.Anyway I think Roglic didn't have much more than that, had he attacked harder in the steeper sections he would've crumbled.

[@robertdevries2045]

i think jumbo is tired right now. they aren't their best

[@larsvisscher0410]

It was a plan that fell trough because ag2r paced therefore the couldn't stay ahead for long enough. And Sam Omen just pulled way to hard this is more a personal mistake than the teams i think.

[@ktk0perry]

they're missing Kuss for these kind of stages

[@vetertee]

Remco has lost 45 seconds on Mas so this was not perfect at all. He is only looking at Roglic while Mas is taking the cheese from his sandwich and comes at 2 minutes. If he wouldn’t have paced, and rode more economically, he could have followed Mas.

[@inrising6658]

What’s Mas gonna do in week 3 at 2 minutes

[@vetertee]

@@inrising6658 attack early on Saturday

[@sean7098]

smh

[@dirgsuite5546]

Remco can handle Mas. In a grand tour the leader has to focus on the rider closest to him. Roglic.

[@BashWilliams]

You should know from watching him previously. Once his domestiques have done the work he likes to pace for himslef. Trying to set a tempo that will be hard to follow. He just isn't the strongest climber overall, and the loss of Julian has hurt the WHOLE team.

[@Al-vw8qt]

roglic shoulda pushed way earlier.

[@npa5825]

He couldn't, he knew it. He would have crumbled

[@Al-vw8qt]

@@npa5825 this is the vuelta and mountain stages are running out!

[@npa5825]

@@Al-vw8qt so what? If he has no legs he can't attack. He is doing what he can. If he attacked earlier he could've finished 5 minutes behind.

[@raskolnikov1242]

He was at he limit and knew he could do only a few minutes at that treshold. Thus, he kept that time for the finish.

[@Matt-io8cx]

this is the first time i am watching the vuelta so what is the "king" stage this year?

[@pascalaernoudt8870]

Remco return,be aware WC

[@hollandtobias4756]

Because MAs was running lol

[@CHRoOMAX]

Unfortunately there's no way Roglic is winning GC: Remco is just better. Now if Jonas Vingegaard drove it'd be a very easy job, but he's not.

[@mrpieface123]

Noice

[@yuriboykkaaa1337]

Roglic will win!

[@ONCEuponAtime999]

he is running out of mountains though

[@paulsolon6229]

It is beginning to look that Remco is too good to beat in this vuelta We will see

[@rickhammel7907]

“Easy 3rd week” ? Pretty sure Roglic is eyeing Th n Sat. Evenepoel is untested and has just one DNF for Grand Tour experience.

[@MDP1702]

The only option on thursday is an 80km raid and only if he can drop Remco at that point. I don't see it happening unless Remco cracks/has a really bad day. As for Saturday, he'll also need to go on the penultimate climb, and the stage overall doesn't really suite taking back a lot of time, unless you are just really dominant or someone again cracks completely.

[@andrasszabo1570]

Yes, the 3rd week is as easy as they come. There are 2 sprint stages, 2 hilly stages where it will be hard to gain any time, and the two mountain stages where there's not a single climb over 6%. Their PCS profile score is only 214 & 216. Compare this with the Giro, which had 4 significantly harder mountain stages and a 17 km ITT at the end. Or with the Tour, where there were 3 mountain stages, including 2 MTFs on Peyragoudes and Hautacam and a 41 km ITT. It's easy to see that the Vuelta's 3rd week is really "decaffeniated" compared to them, to quote Mas. Funny thing is, he didn't talk about this year's race but coined the phrase in 2020.

[@rickhammel7907]

My point was more about Remco not having done this before…everyone just assumes he can hold up for 3 wks

[@MDP1702]

@@rickhammel7907 We have neither the knowledge that he can hold up for 3 heavy weeks nor that he can't. One of the main questions people had was whether Remco could hold on for 3 weeks. The thing is that with the form he has shown the past 2 weeks and especially today, he'd have to absolutely crack in this very easy third week (for a GT) to lose 1:30. If this was a week like this TdF, it would be a completely different. We can say the same about Roglic, everyone assumes he can last for 3 weeks, despite a shitty preparation. Why? Because we have nothing to point to the contrary currently.

[@rickhammel7907]

@@MDP1702 well, my 30 years of racing just doesn’t agree with your odd assertion “we can say the same thing for Roglic”…multiple GT top 10 finishes and won the Vuelta last year. Remco is on Mapei,,,so his “medical support” may carry him 😁

[@linkapus]

Remco is doing tooo much , he will lose this vuelta but hope it makes him stronger and smarter .

[@fabiokrause10]

Its better when he makes a Tempo hes Confident with, then trying to follow Roglic and crack completly. He did the right Thing. The last week isnt that hard anymore. The climbs suit him better. He just have to follow know.

[@ElBayadKhalil]

remco lacks explosive power otherwise could have stayed with mas. It's weird because he is more muscular so one could expect that he is more explosive

[@LacyYTlive]

The crash definitely did some damage

[@nonwatcher]

does he? he outsprinted him on climby finish in the first week

[@collax2613]

@@nonwatcher He was just fresher than the other two when he did that.

[@sean7098]

@@nonwatcher 3 times he outsprinted him so far

[@sean7098]

He doesn’t lack explosive power - take LBL - but he conserves more energy by tapping out a rhythm I think

[@savagepro9060]

I beat Bicycle Man again