Why did Muslims in Maharashtra vote for Uddhav’s Shiv Sena: move to secular Hindutva with INC-NCP

[@ThePrintIndia]

Exclusive content, privileges & more - Subscribe to ThePrint for special benefits: theprint.in/subscribe/

[@AbdelghaniRougaa]

🏦ENG🖕😁maney🖕🔥🖕🔥🤫💣le con roi🤴🇧🇪🇪🇺🚀🤫🦸‍♂️bachir abadi 🦸‍♀️🖕🖕😁🇺🇸🇬🇧Kat.....🛸🤦‍♂️Betcwin 🥇🏅🏆💳💰💴💶🚽👎👀🤒☝️potin🇳🇱🙏🎱🃏👻💣🚀💣🚀💣🇳🇱coure pénale internationale🇩🇪😅🖕👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[@AbdelghaniRougaa]

Putin🙋‍♂️👍👍🇨🇳no stop🇮🇱💡🤯👑😁😅😘🃏🎱👻🛸☝️👌🔥⛈🌋☄🌏🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🙏🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🚀💣🌍🇳🇱🧏‍♂️🇷🇺👌

[@Browndwarff]

We got secular hindutva before gta 6

[@bhuvan1993]

Best comment 😂😂😂

[@herambpatkar]

Hindutva is a political concept but Real Hinduism was always secular...there's no concept of kafir or non-believer in Hinduism...also real Hindus dont hate others just because of different beliefs...."Believe is us, convert, ours is the one true almighty or suffer in hell" thats an abrahamic concept not a Dharmic one.

[@shyambajekal8084]

What do you mean by gta6?🤔

[@shyambajekal8084]

​@@herambpatkarabsolutely 👍

[@sauron2000000]

@@herambpatkar Malech and Jobon

[@harshalshah8845]

Respectfully, muslims did not vote "for shivsena", they just voted against BJP and the against vote was better consolidated than ever before

[@TripleAAA787]

Muslims always voted against BJP

[@abhishekjiwankar1]

One important detail is missing here. Between 2004 and 2009 election, ShivSena itself got split into 2 factions. That is when Raj Thakare formed MNS. This was the more radical party for the Marathi Manus issues. Plus congress govt at that time, really made sure that Raj Thakare is able to grow. This meant that ShivSena's Marathi vote got split in two factions before 2009 elections. By 2014 elections, ShivSena further lost their Hindutva vote. This 1-2 punch put Sena really at a backfoot, by the time 2014 elections were over. During this time, ShivSena was really struggling to find its core voter base. In a way Modi-Shah really helped ShivSena by splitting it up. This helped generate a sympathy for Uddhav Thakare, which I believe was lacking to some extent before that.

[@priyankatripathi7100]

@@abhishekjiwankar1 NCP+Congress had 33.5% votes on 48 seats in 2019. If 3% NCP vote went to Ajit. It leaves around 31%. Pawar+Congress fought 27 seats and got 27.5% votes(6% less than last time). This means UBT got 10.5%(their own vote)+6%(Congress+NCP vote). This is why I am saying UBT is biggest loser in MH.

[@subramrami1274]

MNS SS split was not missed, but omitted in this entire conversation.

[@lazylad1726]

As they say on Mumbai streets, MNS is Cho#na Kam chillana zyada! It doesn't make any difference to the vote bank as the vote bank has consistently given MNS singular seats in elections. But you are right about the sympathy part.. uddhav did get sympathy from people especially liberal kinds.

[@surajbiradar9827]

After the blip of 2009 MNS has been reduced to a mere 1 MLA. It doesn't have a proper organization to make any difference.

[@daredevil30000]

Raj Thackeray is a fringe element. Apart from surname, he has nothing else to showcase. His party members indulge in hooliganism. He is just another source of entertainment for most Maharashtrians. Sharad Pawar had foolishly outsourced the job of election campaigning to MNS during 2019 Lok Sabha elections and paid the price. However, in the same year, during the Vidhan Sabha elections Sharad Pawar did not repeat the same mistake. On the other hand, Uddhav Thackeray’s Shiv Sena is a formidable political force in certain parts of Maharashtra and there are a good number of voters who are committed to it. Preliminary surveys indicate that MVA is ahead of Mahayuti by about 6-7% in terms of vote share. This difference is enough to sweep Maharashtra.

[@priyankatripathi7100]

Modi got 37% in 2024 votes same as in 2019. It's just when a multicolor system is transferred into into a bipolar system, the disproportionate increase in seats comes down. So 37.5% votes in 2019 gave bjp 55% seats while 37% votes in 2024 gave bjp 44% seats. Politics is getting consolidated around two poles that's why low seats with same vote share.

[@bloodwargaming3662]

Yeah basically the 63% massive opposition is more united

[@cloud-engineering]

Also voter turnout is different in the latter election compared to the former ...they lost 20% seats and that what matters ...if INDIA alliance remains it will increase vote share to 60%. BJP's 36% won't cut it ..

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

Wow. BJP got 1% less vote than 2019 and they fought more seats. Consider that too.

[@priyankatripathi7100]

@@subhxsish They are expanding in TN, Kerala & Punjab. It would be an interesting space to watch.

[@daredevil30000]

@@priyankatripathi7100 BJP got 0 in Punjab.

[@narendramurthy3816]

Shekar Gupta Ji . Calls muslim vote as secular. But hindutva vote as non secular

[@amd.amdamd]

@@narendramurthy3816 He never said secular votes or Hindutva votes. He said "secular parties" and "Hindutva parties". You may skim the video once again and check for yourselves whether he used those terms you're referring to.

[@Oksisterlol]

Kuchh bhi

[@shankares388]

@@amd.amdamd can you define what is secular & what is Hindutva? muslims voting against Hindutva is 'secular' isnt? Owaisi & his constituents voting for him is secular while anyone voting for BJP is Hindutva isnt? In India hypocrisy without shame is heights

[@amd.amdamd]

@@shankares388 Voting for Owaisi or AIMIM is Islamism, just like Hindutva. Voting for the INC/NCP is secularism. I hope I could clarify your doubt.

[@shyambajekal8084]

😂😂😂😂 Muslim vote secular? Ha ha ha ha!!

[@balrajseth6310]

How can you say the SECULAR VOTES same as MUSLIM Votes.

[@Tricolour1947]

Like Secular Votes of Hindus 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@shyambajekal8084]

@@balrajseth6310 because he has called Congress and the INDI alliance 'secular' and all the Muslim votes have gone to it against the BJP. So it's simple maths.

[@rajx7120]

BJP lost the chance to bring Uniform Civil Code in last 5 years. It could have created a pro-BJP liberal Muslim constituency, with more reforms like triple talaq. But weirdly, they decided, they want to go full on Muslim bashing to consolidate Hindu votes. I don't understand, how it was ever going to work. Now, even Naseeruddin Shah is saying, it is easy to blame Modi, but Muslims need reforms to uplift them.

[@rijzone]

Absolutely. Modi failed on UCC and Farm Laws.

[@saptarshisengupta8235]

Why do you want to uplift Muslims? Saala Bulla lover.

[@simpso0ns]

Dear brother . It's very heartening to see that you are very concerned about Muslim upliftment . Do you think Hindu upliftment should receive some attention from hindus as well . Muslims seem to be doing pretty well if you ask me , it's hindus who are in a bad shape socially , economically and educationally . They are backward , vote only on religious lines , their leaders are illiterates , social evils like dowry , bride burning , marital rape , female foeticide are rampant despite laws . Infant mortality rate is very high among hindus with a skewed sex ratio . Hindus follow criminal " God men " like gurmeet and asaram blindly. Please focus on poor hindus as well .

[@okeng71487]

@@rijzone UCC is a poll issue only for some UC Hindus who support it out of hate towards Muslims thinking that it will make life more difficult for them. Unfortunately, vast majority of the people in this country are too poor and too hungry to take time to campaign for things that will make life more difficult for others.

[@manjulashanmugasundaram706]

Yes I know a large number of muslims who want a Marriage Act and Succession Act similar to Special Marriage Act and Indian Succession Act or the Hindu Marriage Act and Hindu Succession Act.

[@sureshnair9427]

INC is actually a very religion/caste conscious based party - however it is smart enough to have this fact well masked and madquardes as a so called secular entity that's pure genius

[@rayzimmerman6740]

Now that you've said it - WE ALL ARE CONVINCED!! Don't bother underpinning your FAKE narrative with any proof. And the word you're desperately searching for is "Masquerades"...... Get an education, before you want to make "subliminal" political diatribes.😆

[@shyambajekal8084]

@@sureshnair9427 you're right. _They_ have been playing all the dirty communal and caste based politics all these years. Very well hidden though, as you say!!😕

[@jvbenjamin]

Putting an advertisement directly into the video is a violation of the contract between KZbin Premium Users and the channel.

[@Oksisterlol]

Finally someone said it

[@appu.sruthi]

Yes, i want to take it further l, complain? That too same stupid ad

[@DavisHarry-t4p]

Hindutva votes then why dont it be radical islamist votes or simply terrorist votes??

[@fawaaza.7743]

Because hindutva is a majoritarian movement and a small percentage of hindus following it can have a palpable affect the result (say 20% of it) whilst with 15% of the population being Muslim…even if you are a deranged hateful facebook uncle who believes half of all muslims are radical then too it is too insignificant

[@iansmith8275]

Exactly.

[@HeavenRacer422]

@@fawaaza.7743 hindutva is politicization of Hinduism. And it's important because all other religion exist in India on the day are politicized from their birth. Imams issuing fatwa to vote for a party is also comes under that. Now if I start counting the h@teful verses the day will over. So think twice before giving certificates

[@ChandranPrema123]

​@@HeavenRacer422wrong Hindutva is Hinduness this is a fact

[@saif9765]

Because this vote is not against Hindus. These votes are polled for parties which recieve more Hindu votes than bjp. While hindutva is simply anti-muslim voting. Without muslims Hindutva has no purpose, it will face an existential crisis without muslims.

[@gauravpatilg]

Please talk about Maharashtra Municipal Corporation elections. They are on hold from last 2-3 years

[@prateekmahapatra1789]

Chod de bhai , not 1 party in maharastra gives a shit about it .

[@dharinidevadiga1681]

Hindutva has been secular from time immemorial. That is the only reason why Hindus are secular. Uddhav has not become secular by joining hands with Congress and NCP. He has become pseudo secular like them.

[@sauron2000000]

Never heard Golwalker say such things😂😂😂😂

[@daredevil30000]

But your beloved Hindutva ideologues Golwalkar & Savarkar never said so.

[@TripleAAA787]

Bro didnt read Golwalkars "Bunch of Thoughts"😅😅😅. There he clearly mentions "Muslims, Christians and communists are enemies of the state"

[@rayzimmerman6740]

Really? That explains the 1948 assassination. Very secular indeed...

[@dharinidevadiga1681]

Hindutva is much more than RSS philosophers.I hope people are mature enough to understand this. Don't limit Hindutva by your biases please

[@eklavyavyom]

Secular Hindutva is same as vegetarian beef😂😂😂😂

[@gormint3997]

Vegan beef, vegan chicken actually exist. Some people in America eat vegan chicken (which is made of plants and some artificial flavors that tastes like chicken)

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

It can be like Soyabean chicken masala too.

[@arsalanmirza3411]

@@mg.f.9023 Interestingly, Adolf HITLER was a VEGETARIAN 🥗 😂🤣

[@PositivismAtItsBest]

True😂

[@PositivismAtItsBest]

@@arsalanmirza3411and he believed in h*ting Jews same as it’s in isl*mix holy book Q*ran - Yahudi being called worst creatures Anti-semitism from Hitler to Q*ran - it’s all the same

[@BsMurthyauthorspeak]

Sans the 'Print' spin, Mumbai's Muslims, as elsewhere in the country, had voted mainly to stop Modi's juggernaut, and nothing more and nothing less to it.

[@dukhi_aatma372]

After falling flat on their face during LS election, I don't understand why people are still in this speculation business 😂😂

[@lazylad1726]

Tere Paw Paw felt flat on his chamkila daivik face 😂

[@rayzimmerman6740]

Dukhi aatma indeed.... work on that my friend... and take care - Phone a friend - that is, if you have any.

[@jimmyantony4065]

Dear Shekar Gupta, let me remind you one thing, you never talks about Mamta Banergy’s dirty politics. She did a lot of harmful politics in Bengal like attack opposition political peoples. You are a typical left ideology journalist. And mind you the much talk about your neutral stands is just a mask, also your viewership is much weaker than other online media. Thank you.

[@lazylad1726]

There is only one form of politics in this country. And thats the dirty form! And Paw Paw leads everybody in the race! Jai Shri Ram 😂

[@rayzimmerman6740]

Then why are you here? Go and watch something else....

[@Sujay95]

Go watch your third class hindutva youtubers. Why are you barking here? And since when did Shekhar Gupta became leftist? He is a well-known soft hindutva journalist

[@nandakishorekomandur480]

Still waiting for cut the clutter on Tamilnadu liquor deaths.

[@shankares388]

wont since it is not 'secular'

[@shyambajekal8084]

He won't do that. DMK is part of the INDI alliance isn't it?😂😂😂

[@rajbaghel3507]

Tamilnadu dalit ab Brahmin ban chuke h isliye unke marne se liberal makkaro ko kya lena dena

[@kumarm5961]

Sekhar sir is a true secular

[@Dadasahab1234]

​@@kumarm5961That is why he would not speak about T.N. tragedy.

[@drsdhawale]

Muslims want to defeat BJP that too Narendra Modi particularly. They will vote to anyone who is against modi.

[@Tricolour1947]

And It's working 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dattatrayalimaye2756]

Is it? He is back for a third term though

[@ahsonkhan8223]

​@@dattatrayalimaye2756 every one knew bjp would win all we wanted was they dont get their own majority, and thats been done, now that bjp does not have the majority , they cant pass any controversial bills and amend constitution, our objective has been completed, you can see even the bhakts are not celebrating this victory because they clearly know bjp without majority cant move forward or impose their ideology on our diverse country, jai hind, jai sanvidhan

[@Bengal2923]

@@ahsonkhan8223 And BJP is protecting our Sanvidhan !!!!... By the way united muslim vote means secular vote but united hindu vote means communal vote ..right?

[@nagbalkur1365]

Can you explain what is the difference between NCP, Congress and SS Uddhav if they all have same votebank, same ideology ? My sense is that its floating vote bank and its unlikely to stick with Uddhav unless congress and NCP accept Uddhav as their leader, which they will not as it undermines their own position.

[@manjulashanmugasundaram706]

Marathi Asmita

[@pratham3507]

Uddhav is not the depiction of Marathi asmita.... Rather for me he is inverse of asmita... He is an opportunist.... And yes it is just the sympathy vote he is getting for now but it will fade away...

[@amd.amdamd]

I think they've already accepted Uddhav as their leader since 2019. In the Assembly elections 2024, they'll repeat it.

[@surajbiradar9827]

Is there any similarity between BJP, SS shinde faction and NCP ajit pawar faction? No. People have realized that it's not about ideology (it never was in the real sense) but about number games and power grab. It's just that when some party becomes cocky with power and disconnected from the ground, gets the wrath of the voters. And it's the same for everyone. Earlier it was congress and NCP, now it's BJP's time.

[@amd.amdamd]

@@surajbiradar9827 Well, if JDU and TDP, which are self-proclaimed secular parties, can come together with BJP, then, NCP (Ajit Pawar) can definitely Join hands with SHS (Eknath Shinde) and BJP. Not a big deal. The wave at this moment is against the BJP because they indulged in horse-trading MLAs from NCP and SHS to join them and people in MH didn't like that at all.

[@surendrabarsode8959]

Shekhar wasted some 20 minutes to come the point that everyone knows in Maharashtra anyway- that UB Sena got minority votes en bloc as what is viewed as strategic option, to defeat BJP by voting for anyone who is in the best position to defeat BJP!!! It was just anti BJP vote by minority and name sake Hindus!!! Further, one to one fight by INDI Alliance against NDA helped greatly in defeating NDA! 2. BJP should NOT take back UBT!!! That will be worst mistake it will do!!

[@rayzimmerman6740]

It will make, not do.. just thought I'd help in your pidgin English.

[@surendrabarsode8959]

@@rayzimmerman6740 Thanks!!! 👍

[@reach2prasanna]

Just a radical thought. How about BJP fields Nitin Gadkari as the CM candidate for Maharashtra?

[@Kaito028]

They will never do it.

[@rmzr4824]

they will have a chance actually, but first step is fadnavis needs to go, as does eknath shinde and especially ajit pawar. Reality is that whatever stupid uddhav rahul maybe, marathi people view these three politicans are ruining the state's once valued politcal stability. This is going to be tough for all of them to change, reality is that had they not split the two parties uddhav would have close to 5 yrs of anti incubency and the alliance would have been divided, bjp could have then had their chance but they didnt play long game and now they suffer

[@pratikkhobragade2870]

Gadkari is overrated

[@reach2prasanna]

@@pratikkhobragade2870 That’s bit of an exaggeration. Can you please tell why you think so?

[@reganjoans]

Don't worry, they may have to pitch guju modi there soon!!

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

Bal Thackeray, Moving from Maratha only to Hindutva, made the situation of Shiv Sena precarious vis a vis BJP. BJP being a bigger Hindutva party was always going to surpass Shiv Sena and that's what happened. Now, only time will tell how this "secular Hindutva" is going to work for Uddbhav Thakarey.

[@nitinpatel1039]

It will go away in flick of second the day congress move ahead of them and ask for more power, he will have no choice but return back to original hinduttva, only reason Muslims voting for him because he is in opposition to bjp, those Muslim can even vote dog if he is opposition to bjp, watch ubt vote share closely, their is huge dip maratha vote which is taken by shinde, who could have won more seat if bjp would have not given anything to that useless ajit pawar

[@SoulRocketMan]

@@nitinpatel1039you are deeply hurt and frustrated

[@nitinpatel1039]

@@SoulRocketMan hurt by whom these bunch of ubt cunts ashamed their own father legacy I remember those time Bala shaeb used to rip these mullahs apart and now their son and grandson fallen so low to indulge in appeasement

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

​@@nitinpatel1039Obviously, but by then Modi, Shah will not be der, by then BJP might be not a force that big, etc.

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

​@@nitinpatel1039Ajit Pawar fought only 4 seats, he won 1. If all 3 would have been fought by BJP or Shinde, still they would have got at max 3 more seats. Math is important. You know.

[@NasirKhan-fx8hq]

Muslims are the part of Indian population and must be inclusive to every party to be called nationalist.

[@arunhuddar]

BJP’s Hindutva does not differentiate the benefits of all programs by any religion. How is Uddhav’s hindutva different?

[@Vijayawada-p2x]

Muslim vote is Secular , Hindu vote is Communal : is it not the discourse from 1952y .

[@sauron2000000]

Not really.

[@sakshamrai1803]

SS UBT under Uddhav has moved from far right to centre right like that of his Grandpa and not his Dad. What I am laughing about is how Congressi Grandfather, may god rest his soul, would have been so shocked to see a Thackeray to be the most loyal Gandhi ally.

[@arunm6727]

Same the way how cow dungs are praising sardar Patel and subash Chandra bose both were against rss ideology

[@bilalbaig8586]

Bal Thackeray was very loyal Indira Gandhi. Shiv Sena never raised it voice against the Emergency.

[@PositivismAtItsBest]

We in Maharashtra know - Uddhav the 🐧 wasn’t even mla. Even he knows he fails as a politician- he was making his sons career in politics and by chance he became cm. Without Balasaheb this Pappu was and is directionless and brainless 😂

[@trthwrth]

Why I don't become a member of The Print though I like a journalism here?? Listen 29:15

[@aryandixit229]

There is no such thing as secular Hindutva. Uddhav Thackeray is not Hinduwadi anymore. He is just an opportunist with no ideology, similar to AAP.

[@navindol]

UBT had a strike rate of 42.85%. Shinde Sena’s strike rate was 43.75%. So Mr. Gupta…on what basis are you relaying this information that Maharashtra has recognized UBT Sena as the real Sena? It could be true in case of NCP but not so in case of Shiva Sena. I would love to hear your basis for this conclusion

[@munishchopra-evans4419]

exactly and actually Shinde's strike rate was better than UBT!

[@fawaaza.7743]

People who are reading this be warned: UBT contested 21 seats and won 9. Shinde sena contested just 15 and won 7. That’s why the strike rate is similar. The higher the number of seats contested (especially riskier ones) the lower the strike rate. This is a cherry-picked state prone to misrepresentation which is why the above commenters have brought them up to misguide you

[@navindol]

@@fawaaza.7743 Not sure who you mean by above users. This discussion is about Maharashtra and no body cherry picked (or pickled) anything.

[@navindol]

@@fawaaza.7743 also…in the 13 seats that UBT Sena and Shinde Sena had a direct fight it was 7-6 in favor or Shinde Sena.

[@nitinpatel1039]

@@navindol as his name suggest u know he is bro, we don't need more evidence how gullable these 15% can be 😂 they can vote for even party formed on the basis anti Muslim just because it is fighting election against modi

[@nagiandy1092]

Any cut the clutter on Hooch 😢

[@csomanathchakrapani7521]

A good reporter for indi group

[@santhi5134]

Muslims voted to defeat BJP. It doesn’t matter which party the opponents of the BJp candidate was

[@priyankatripathi7100]

Congress+NCP got 33.5% votes in 2019. The MVA now has got 43.5% votes. Ajit NCP got 3% votes, by this logic UBT brought only 11-12% or just half of shiv sena vote, the other half of 11-12% votes remained with Eknath Shinde. In fact BJP got 26.5% votes largely same as last time. So it is UBT who will be biggest loser in Maharashtra just wait for a few years

[@Kaito028]

Wrong, SSUBT got approximately 16-17% wherelse SS got 12%, which assume they are mostly BJP's vote.

[@rmzr4824]

nope, united shiv sena has around a 22 percent voteshare and bjp had around a 27 percent vote. the congress-ncp had 16 percent voteshares each, bjp and ncp-cong voters didnt abandon the parties. from shiv sena, 8 percent seemed to have been an anti congress hindutva votebank that shifted to bjp, 10 percent was a core thakeray family vote that stayed loyal to shiv sena as a party. and at most 4 percent was vote that came from either shinde or his mp/mla's presonal strenght.

[@bloodwargaming3662]

What are you smoking? Undivided ss and bjp had combined vote share of 51% in maharashtra in 2019. Bjp got 27.8% and shiv sena undivided got 23.50% now ss ubt got 16.5% vote share . Even though it contested 2 less seats 21 whereas Eknath shinde and ss got 12% vote share just . So big winner is ubt

[@pratikkhobragade2870]

@@bloodwargaming3662Uddhav got that vote share with a new symbol and not his original organisation. So it’s a huge win for Uddhav.

[@gormint3997]

Tripathi ji your maths is good but you would score zero in Political Science😂😂😂but maybe full points in "Entire Political Science"😂😂😂😂

[@ramnathpaip]

its anti BJP vote to MVA, nothing to do with Hindutva

[@ashishb]

it should be named as cut the opinion

[@arsalanmirza3411]

🤣😂

[@shyambajekal8084]

It should be 'Cause the Clutter!'

[@pichumanisankar2617]

Only power matters and not principles. Don’t be surprised tomorrow Shiv Sena becomes the new Congress, Udhav participating in Iftar parties😂

[@ChatGptIot]

Like Fasanvis wearing top and Modi visiting kabars 🤬🤬

[@banditonehundred]

BJP shot themselves in the foot. Breaking up the Shiv Sena and then taking Ajit Pawar into their party, didn’t sit well with the people. The biggest surprise to me was how BJP lost Vidarbha in a straight fight with Congress. Especially considering it’s a stronghold of Fadnavis, Gadkari and RSS

[@drunkenmonk2767]

When would the presstitudes like Shekhar stop misusing the term secular???

[@manjulashanmugasundaram706]

Shiv Sena has always been pro Marathi Manus. First they opposed South Indians. Next they opposed Muslims. Now they oppose Ambani Adani. I may not like their method of opposing.

[@simple-eastner]

12:38 This is true, Congress was pro-SHIVSENA and not just true in Maharashtra, also in Hyderabad. Hyderabad has a huge Marathi speaking population(Doolpet, Mangalhaat, GoshalMahal, Puranapul,..) ever since Nizam times i.e. 1800s still less than local Urdu or Telugu speakers. They started to vote BJP precursor Janata Party which once had 4 seats in united AP. In fact current BJP MLA RajaSingh is a native Marathi speaker, not Telugu. After new found success in Mumbai ShivSena tried to establish itself in Hyderabad with its street style politics. That triggered riots and congress which had sitting Marathi MPs for decades was soft on Sena. This lead to unexpected reaction i.e. rise of MIM, muslim stopped voting to Congress voted MIM, a party which hardly won few councilors and hardly won 1 independent MLA before. Then subsequent election MIM won 3 MLA and then pull off unthinkable i.e. Hyderabad MP seat.

[@shubhudabak]

Winds will turn again in Maharashtra. Shiv Sena Shinde will become the kingmaker for any Govt to form and this will dictate who legitimately commands Shiv Sena as a whole (combined). November will be the final battle of this war.

[@jayaprakashkg7473]

It shows that some vote intelligently and some foolishly and sg rightly said" secular" vote means muslim votes

[@pmm7268]

Regional nationalism is better than GeoFinancial vested interests that Rahul represents. That is much dangerous than colonialism, defeat in a war, or any big corruption. Mother of all corruption is being a tool in the hands of geo financial forces of exploitation. That will destroy the nation & its people. Rahul is a real treat to India. All his speeches are framed by geo-financial exploitative forces.

[@krishnakanth660]

Doing his best to make shiv sena a secular party which he has been doing right after bala thakery died.

[@uditpatwardhan]

Secular hindutva is far better than regular hindutva.

[@priyankatripathi7100]

NCP+Congress had 33.5% votes on 48 seats in 2019. If 3% NCP vote went to Ajit. It leaves around 31%. Pawar+Congress fought 27 seats and got 27.5% votes(6% less than last time). This means UBT got 10.5%(their own vote)+6%(Congress+NCP vote). This is why I am saying UBT is biggest loser in MH. BJP got 27.7% vote last last time which marginally came down to 26.3%. But UBT just managed to get half vote share of his party. So I would not be surprised if UBT & NCP(SP) ends up like BRS

[@rajendranathanmnair4122]

It was wrong on part of PM-HM- Fadnavis team to break up with SS the way they did for power politics forgetting Hindu cause. It is another fact that Udhav as CM was one of the worst CM may be due to the inorganic alliance he went for. Then breaking SS was a wrong move for BJP and bringing Ajith Pawar was the lowest point. In politics one always need an ideology which should never be power as BJP is doing now. People won't agree with that always because being chameleon for all seasons is never good politics and people never get influenced. Add to that how current elections were fought and candidates selected by BJP which angered BJP all over country. Continuing with SS was always the right call as anyhow SS was getting diminished naturally like other regional parties. But BJP this time by their in imaginative power politics damaged themselves and gave a big boost to all Regional parties and Congress unnecessarily harming our politics in the long run. It is sad sometimes Chanakya got many things bad since 2019 on the assumption that workers of party and people are blindly enamored by their vile. That bubble of invincibility is not good politics is shown to BJP by wise voters and workers and more importantly the middle class

[@SreedharBabu-vl7tn]

Super planting new word ,,New Hindutva” which you can’t use for Muslims and Christian’s 😮

[@umeshsidhaye1396]

People often compare the firebrand Hindutva of Late Shri Balasaheb Thackreay with that of Soft, inclusive Hindutva of Uddhav Thackeray.. And in the process, many of them tend to criticise or demean Uddhav Thackeray's leadership and style of functioning by saying that he has bowed down to the pressure and ideology of Congress , which has forced him to tone down his stance on Hindutva.. But one must remember that between late 80's and early 90's when the issue of Ram Mandir ( and thus the fiery Hindutva... ) was at its peak and today in year 2024, the situation has changed.. the context has changed.. the problems that people face have changed.. their priorities have changed... The miilions of young voters including the first time voters, have not seen or experienced the heated atmosphere that prevailed during the Babri masjid demolition ... Today, these voters are much more rational in their thinking... they are much more smarter owing to their 24*7 exposure to mainstream media and the social media.. They consider the problems of unemployment, inflation as their top priorities instead of digging up the history and getting into dogfights over the issues belonging to such history.. Therefore the inclusive politics from Uddhav Thackeray is a smart , tactical move which has resulted in getting him the support of not just the non- Hindu's , but also from different castes,groups within Hindu's, which were not so sure about supporting the Shiv sena all these years.. Honestly, I see little scope for the policy of 'divide and rule' to become the success mantra in Indian politics.. Going forward, the voters are unlikey to fall prey to the divisive tactics deployed on the basis of religion... And one must say that it is a healthy sign for our democracy.

[@KrishnaKumar-sr2nc]

First of all Mr Uddhav Thakre left NDA only CM post not offered to him and not on any other principled change in ideology as seems propagated by Shekhar. Next still in Maharashtra BJP has more vote bank than Shivsena and the Uddhav Sena since became a secular brand party it is bound to lose some of its core vote bank which will affect its bargaining power since it could not win without minority votes and such votes come to Uddhav Sena only because of its alliance with congress ncp and hence no more uddhav Sena could dominate the alliance. Also they may not in this election go to voters with Uddhav as CM face. Also in future Uddhav will lose the credibility on talking hindutva in any platform and even he may have to apologise for participating in babri masjid demolition. Also Uddhav need to keep silent on abusement about Savarkar and could not retaliate much to keep his secular identity intact. Uddhav will be in a precarious situation and congress will use this opportunity to take upper hand. Let us wait and see the developments.

[@kkuldip123]

In the assembly elections, when SS got SS 50-odd seats after contesting elections with BJP or without BJP, doesn't it show that SS was not gaining anything by staying with BJP? It was clear, SS was not getting the BJP votes in places where they were contesting while in coalition with BJP.

[@panimeda245]

A state and the people once patriot of the great Shivaji Maharaj now it is broken with pieces to scavengers.

[@okeng71487]

The Marathas themselves collaborated with the East India Company in the later years. Quite a lot of the stuff about Shivaji Maharaj is mythology created by Marathi regionalists and Hindutva ideologues. The Marathas were just another kingdom that existed in the sub-continent. They were not some proto-nationalists.

[@xcel5203]

Shiv sena is about superficial and consequently superfluous politics - signboards and renaming . Otherwise completely clueless about governance .

[@Koba1025]

Muslims in Maharashtra didn't vote for Uddhav , they voted for Rahul and Sharad. Shivsena got 1 less seat in one on one fight with Shinde.

[@Realme-uc3ey]

How UBT Shivsena is original shivsena of Hindu ruthay samrat if majority of its votes are comming from Muslim?

[@HeavenRacer422]

BJP, shiv sena, akali do politics on religion. What congress does? It's an is|amic party. A community do vote j1had for them. Mixing is|am with politics is ok. But mixing Hinduism is problematic. Wow.

[@gormint3997]

Congress is a secular party. People of all religion vote for Congress. People who are marginalized (SC, ST, OBC) vote for Congress. BJP tries to get vote only from Hindus and does division based on Hindu-Muslim. You will see BJP reduced below 200 in 2029 and below 100 in 2034. India is a secular country and people like being secular. Only 5-10% upper caste Hindus want to see Hindu nation. The rest want a secular nation and it will remain a secular nation

[@gormint3997]

Many people who voted for BJP in this election voted for them because of "development". Not religion. I think they didn't know that BJP never talked about development during this election. It was all religion

[@HeavenRacer422]

@@gormint3997 Congress is secular 1. It's alliance partner talks about eradication of sanatana dharma. 2. It's leader saying to fight against shakti mentioned in hinduism. 3. It opposes equal laws for all section aka uniform civil code. 4. It is the party who reversed shahbano case opposing alimony to divorced women 5. First grew extremts like Bhinderwala in Punjab and then attacked sikh's sacred temple follow by delhi 1984 incident. 6. Grew extremists like Yasin Malik who later became the reason behind kashmiri hindu exodus. 7. Térrorism doesn't have any religion but in 2010 they linked Hinduism with it whereas couldn't dare to do it with others..

[@HeavenRacer422]

@@gormint3997 congress giving representation to SC, ST, OBCs? Just for example. Telangana is a state with 80% OBC+SC+ST population. Congress has 60% upper caste ministers including the CM whose population is 10% of the state. Congress is an is|amist party. It's BJP who gave first OBC PM. First tribal president. Time will say India will remain secular Or not. Wait and watch. Current system is good with 0 political power to mus|ims. Including states like Telangana and HP where congress in power and in karnataka.

[@Drganguli]

Uddhav should focus on Marathi language aspects to form a counter to the BJP. That model has worked in Andhra and Bengal etc

[@ankushdoshi8947]

His father would have been ashamed by seeing all this mess what his son has done . The reason my he got so many votes is because Muslims will vote anyone against BJP. And his agenda is development??? What development did he do for 2.5 years?? This election Eknath shinde has a much better strike rate than uddhav. I want to see how uddhav can carry on with its own hindutva agenda. I seriously think raj thackery should have been the original to lead shiv sena. Not now but in the future uddhav and Aditya both will realize that they have left what the great balasaheb thackery did for Maharashtra and soon join with BJP

[@Tricolour1947]

Cry Sangi Cry. Uddhav is a Leader to Hindus and Muslims like Shivji 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@prakashraghunathan2685]

Thank you shekar sir bringing good episode.

[@nv9991]

A north star for Muslims under Darul-e-Harb circumstance is Darul-e-islam. Every move & partnership is made to keep North Star's interest paramount. Rest everything is tactical. Today whoever is most convenient to move half an inch closer to North Star (or on rare unfavorable days, like since 2014, to minimize movement away from North Star) is a tactically useful fool at that moment. That fool will get dumped when some other tactic has a higher probability of moving closer to the North Star. In India, the only group that has well well-defined single long-term "group agenda" is Muslims. All these verbal gyrations by Nehruvian Ashrafi Bhadrlok ecosystem about secularism, soft Hindutva, etc are just plain gas.

[@eliasmiranda9631]

Thirty lakh population ie minority votes speaking in Mumbai.Now 2024 Mumbai population 1.80 crore and 60 lakhs minorities makes a difference.

[@akshattiwary160]

I can’t help but notice SG’s (and DK’s) subtle left turn from centre after June, the 4th. I may be overanalysing, or may be not.

[@rajendradangi2585]

They were so from the start.... Don't you see their some of ridiculous articles which only come in on platform like the wire.

[@PositivismAtItsBest]

He is leftist and always was. They were hiding till Modi weakens. They were waiting for this.

[@Ninjashank]

9:52 - breaking away and going on to the non-Hindu side. How conveniently do you use the secular term 😂

[@madhup100]

Muslims call the shot in Mumbai. Be wary of #secular parties as Shekhar says Lol End of Uddhav Thakre

[@viveksinghmax]

Its not a secular vote but strategic vote..... When bjp weakened then they finish shivsena

[@sandeepkhalate9897]

Shekarji Don’t mistake Muslim vote for secular vote

[@mohitanand1844]

There is no such thing as hindutva .never was

[@HeavenRacer422]

Hindutva is the political Hinduism. It's important as all Abrahamic religions and sikhism are politicised. And BJP gets 40% + votes in most of the states. That's the ideological hindutva voters. Rest if BJP can add some swing voters they win or lose.

[@fawaaza.7743]

@@HeavenRacer422if you think all of the BJP votes are hindutva votes, you are mistaken badly. A lot vote for modi, or because of the congress’s non viability in the past decade. Only about half of that 40% is core hindutva

[@HeavenRacer422]

@@fawaaza.7743 assembly elections there are no modi factor. Still BJP scores 40%+ in most of the states. It's core of BJP. And most importantly if BJP grow to all states properly it would have 40% core national votes. On the other hand congress+ have less than 20% national votes. That's why sometimes their vote share goes near that..

[@iansmith8275]

Just like there's no such thing as moderate / secular / liberal Islam.

[@mohitanand1844]

​@@fawaaza.7743none .nobody is hindutva

[@shrirangs7152]

Where is assessment?

[@EldhoLikesIt]

It is Maha Vikas Aghadi, not Maharashtra Vikas Aghadi

[@abhi32789]

If there was a betrayal of mandate match between UBT and BJP, the score would be UBT 1(2019,Aligning with Congress-NCP)- BJP 3( 3 day government with Ajit Pawar, Breaking Shivsena, Taking Ajit Pawar in the government)

[@surendram9953]

Shekarji, what is your opinion about Mr, Kamala Hasan’s comments on Chennai hooch TRAGEDY

[@shankarsrivastava1812]

Because he has left the hard core hindutava politics which his father used to do.

[@AnalystTV]

SG have soft cornar to UBT

[@okeng71487]

A crushing defeat in the MH and Haryana Assembly elections will break the arrogance of the Sanghis and their IT Trolls.

[@gliss80]

And what are you a Congressi chamcha?😅😆

[@subramrami1274]

Don't know if I am correct. Sometimes the print journalist are trying to bring real sense of data, but SG sir trys to wheel them to say the way he believes it is right.

[@narasimhanla1474]

Uddhav is backstabber to his father clearly.

[@MrPmm1991]

This is false information Shivsena first joined hands with Sharad Pawar and then Sharad Pawar went to Modi to form a govt with BJP That's how Ajit Pawar and Fadanvis took oath But Sharad Pawar changed his mind and sena, NCP and congress formed the govt

[@rajharshful]

I think the analysis doesn't tell the truth as Muslims across India voted just to defeat BJP. So even if some tom dick and Harry align with Congress , they would get Muslim votes if he or she has a good chance of defeating BJP. This is simple conclusion as far as election result data is concerned.Moreover, the idea that shinde sena have performed poorly is wrong as they fought 15 seats and won 7 while udhav sena fought 21 and won 9 only inspite of Congress and ncp performing so well. This means the cadre votes was divided between both factions of sena. simple brute analysis

[@gobivetharatnam6923]

It is quite natural that SG is very excited after the Lok Sabha 2nd place. They still think they won. 😂 Let's see if the votes hold for the assembly.

[@rayzimmerman6740]

Haha ha!!! Wait.....what is that infernal, awful smell....Its a BHAKT!!!

[@InfoSoup]

Shekhar ji, please dont call parties indulging in appeasement politics "secular"

[@chrissingh4730]

Why isn’t the President be more active and deal with Mamta and Delhi. Is she scared of them?

[@Dadasahab1234]

If BJP fails to expose khata khat scheme .97 % votes of particular community votes will upset apple cart. 😅

[@shikamarunara295]

veg biryani is not biryani. Come on!

[@cta7444]

Simply uddhav and Aditya thacker look and speak more civil. That's it.

[@dattatrayalimaye2756]

same for Rahul Gandhi..but if you vote on looks and speech ..what does that tell you about your I Q ? Judging books by covers I see

[@cta7444]

@@dattatrayalimaye2756 let me try to come down to your IQ level and explain They are better than your poster boy chapri politicians.

[@cta7444]

​@@dattatrayalimaye2756 All 3 have degrees too. Only someone with no IQ would have missed this.

[@drajdew1664]

Mr Shekhar Gupta.. it is not as complicated as you make out to be. Muslims would vote for any part or coalition which can defeat BJP. It is as simple as this

[@PradeepSNair]

Only because SS was part of the INDIA bloc.. Why are you making a big deal of it...

[@waynedlima2226]

Also from the time bjp won at the centre they were better resourced than the Uddhav Sena

[@florineroche4702]

I am surprised u call Muslim votes as secular votes. OMG

[@pzende]

If Thackrey goes back to BJP , his politics is over for forever.

[@blastoff2moon429]

BJP is loosing both Haryana and Maharashtra in Vidhan Sabha elections 😂

[@HeavenRacer422]

It's not that easy. BJP+ is ahead of 125 seats in Maharashtra as per loksabha elections. Now they will have better plans, candidates and most importantly no over confidence.

[@fawaaza.7743]

@@HeavenRacer422there is no “as per lok sabha”. Vidhan sabha is a different game. No modi factor will save them here lmao

[@nitinpatel1039]

Bjp won assembly election in rajasthan in December than faced huge challenge in lok sabha, every election in India is different

[@iansmith8275]

Zara ruko, sabr karo ji

[@HeavenRacer422]

@@fawaaza.7743 modi factor hasn't worked in 2024 loksabha. Look at Rajasthan. BJP got 110 seats in assembly and got 107 in 2024 election. Do a proper analysis.

[@anooppandey4437]

Why not show what was there vote strength in worli n shwedi?

[@vijaym1906]

Guptaji.. In all these years of CTC, this is the rare one, where ur analysis is wrong. Ms. Mansi being Mumbai resident should have been very much aware of the fact that Uddhav has lost most of his traditional marathi vote bank. UT segment had contested 21 LS seats and they won only 9 srats with vote share of around 16%. Most of these votes belonged to Congress. In Sangli, Congress rebel won, while UT candidate was at third place. UT sena even lost all the konkan region seats from Thane to Sindhudurg, which once upon a time was Senas bastion. On the other hand, Shinde faction contested 15 and won 7 seats with vote share of around 13%, which is not far from Uddhav. Rather Shinde did better than even BJP. He later claimed that if he would had more seats if contested on more. Especially in Mumbai, BJP and Shinde candidates have lost mostly because of Muslim votes, which helped Uddhav, but all these are Congress votrs. It will be fun to watch assembly elections as cracks will get widen. Nana Patole has already been claiming for more seat share and even CM position. Uddhav should retrospect that why his alliance ie Congress and NCP had better success rate than him in LS elections..

[@strawhat9319]

Why uddhav shivsena is needed when congress and NCP is already there.

[@navindol]

UBT Sena feared becoming a junior partner to BJP and left the alliance. Going by their 2024 lok sabha performance you can be sure NCP-SP and Congress will make them the sub-junior partner in the MVA come assembly elections.

[@priyankatripathi7100]

100% that's likely going to happen. NCP+Congress had 33.5% votes on 48 seats in 2019. If 3% NCP vote went to Ajit. It leaves around 31%. Pawar+Congress fought 27 seats and got 27.5% votes(6% less than last time). This means UBT got 10.5%(their own vote)+6%(Congress+NCP vote). This is why I am saying UBT is biggest loser in MH.

[@itzmontupatel]

Note: Not judging anyone's voting choice as citizen of india muslim have right to vote however they choose But there is no secular hindutava and muslims didn't voted for secular hindutva they voted for UBT because he was viable opponent against BJP if seat sharing would make INC or NCP viable opponent against BJP muslims would vote for it, because muslims are afraid of BJP and whatever the reason might be for that I am not disscusing that here but is the fact

[@golamsarowar6]

I love Mr Shekhar Gupta, he is a soft GODI but a gentleman ...

[@pratikbhavsar241]

People dont get Maharashtra at all. Sena is first Marathi party then hindutva. RSS is from Maharashtra and nobody understands them better than we Marathis do. Who opposed them historically Ambedkar, Mahatma phule? . BJP thought PM would shift a project to Gujrat by one phone call and people won't react? They can dont need to teach us our religion they can teach to Gujjus and Northies

[@yogendersharma3481]

Congress will contest minimum 160 assembly seats in Maharashtra