Why Did the Clovis People Mysteriously Vanish?

[@earlyhumans0]

What do you think happened to the Clovis people?

[@T.J-and-Soul]

They didn't go anywhere. They either adapted or new cultures blended in with them.

[@DakotaRubio-z4t]

They drank themselves to oblivion

[@brucesmith8285]

War, famine, plague. History repeats this pattern over and over.

[@AgathaR-v5y]

Noah's Flood. This explains the "black mats" in Texas, The sediments in Delmarva, the frozen Mammoths in a lot of places. It happened 2100 before Christ but C14 dates place it at 12,800 to11,600 Cal BP. Seven Bison and Seven Camels got off the arc and 2 of the bison came back to America across Beringia, look at the Genetic bison profile. A remnant of the "Clovis People came back to America after the flood, thus the genetic bottleneck, and the end of fluted points!

[@brucesmith8285]

@user-gw2bi9xr7e I would only disagree with this cuz of the technology level. The pre flood people had access to metallurgy and iron making. I would guess they were here before the migration from Asia. But before the flood us stretching it unless they were the builders of the zigarats and structures found throughout the americas

[@charlesjmouse]

A well-presented video, thanks ...although scattered with some out-of-date taking points: While there is currently insufficient data to make fully definitive statements at this time what can be reasonably said is as follows: -The first people in the Americas arrived at the very least 20-30k ago. That date may be far older but unambiguous evidence is currently lacking. -There is absolutely no evidence those people contributed genetically to today's 'indigenous' populations. ie: They were replaced by later 'invaders'. -Those 'invaders' seem to have been the Clovis people, arriving 11-14k ago. They in turn contributed somewhat to today's 'indigenous' populations. -'Clovis' or relatives seem to mostly arise from a population isolated in what was once Beringia. In turn arriving from East Asia. -20-14k ago? Currently debated evidence. Maybe other pre-Clovis groups arrived, maybe nobody else post 20-30k ago. -Before the 30-20k arrivals..? Currently anybody's guess, but not unreasonable. There may have been 'pre-Sapiens' people 120k ago. (iffy) -No, it doesn't look like the Solutrean hypothesis holds any water at this point - the first 'Europeans' arrived in semi-historical times. Modern South America would seem to be primarily populated by decedents from North America, then later Europe + Africa. -However there is seeming evidence of populations arriving from the Pacific very much earlier, along with earlier migrations from the North. Of course much of the above is subject to scientific re-evaluation in the light of new evidence as it crops up - that is the scientific method. In short. Both North and South America have seen waves of human populations arriving and then being (largely) replaced by those following for possibly well over 100k years. Certainly for the last 20-30k years, long before Clovis the presumed major ancestors of 'indigenous' North Americans. The current inhabitants of the Americas are no more than the latest groups to arrive and displace those who went before, going back a very long time. As Australian aboriginal peoples might say "Arguing over who owns the land is like fleas arguing over who owns the dog."

[@timsheridan3987]

Very well said and as more discoveries are made and more evidence presented the current theories will change

[@HowardArnold-be9ly]

Think again on the Solutrean thing. I’ll bet if solutrean was South African few would be batting an eyelid. The idea is recent just like that of Clovis. Man hasn’t been here 120,000+ years, or there’d be a lot more evidence. I doubt my comment gets seen. I’ll be surprised if the algorithm allows it.

[@frogmtndoc]

YDB impact took out the Clovis people and the majority of megamammals found in North America at the time. The environmental catastrophe that followed lasted centuries.

[@stevegarcia3731]

Good comment. In time we may know. Not now. There is a small group of scientists who dispute the YDB impact, but the skeptics' work is sloppy. Yet the majority of academia accepts the skeptics' work as better than the CRG's massive quantity of forensic-type lab work at the microscopic scale. That majority of academia is wrong.

[@jermsmason2082]

About a 10 minute drive from where I live in upstate New York, there's ancient ruins of stone buildings. The native americans in this area say the structures were already there when they came into the area, and was beyong their skill to make even when Europeans arrived. and unfortunately, no one has bothered to try to figure out who made them. Wonder if it could have been a part of the clovis culture.

[@bc2578]

Also ignored is the pre-Clovis tools found here which are only found in one other area---Europe.

[@GayaGreen]

Is it hard 4 you... too make a few pictures... of this findes? And send this too me? And porhaps also a map whit coordinates? So that i can try too see this whit Google Earth. I live in Sweden so it is a few meters and an ocean us two. Tanks. G. Dick from Sweden.

[@NOLIMITSchicos]

Where It Is this Place you mentioned?

[@jermsmason2082]

@@NOLIMITSchicos bluff point in penn yan, new york

[@alphonsenormand9552]

Regarding the Clovis culture - as I understand it, there is some debate as to the origins of the Clovis culture, as it has been proposed that they may have been an off- shoot of the Solutrean culture from France, circa 17,000 B.C., due to the close resemblance of both cultures' tool kits ! It has been posited (with considerable heated debate) that the Solutreans may have crossed the Atlantic in small, primitive boats, following (and possibly camping/hunting/fishing from) the southern edge of the ice sheet !

[@ThomasSmith-os4zc]

There was a catastrophe. The Ainu are a remnant population of the Solutrean or Clovis people.

[@nelsonumana9547]

No one vanished,Native Americans have been migrating and mating with each other for thousands of years✌

[@HowardArnold-be9ly]

That by which they are identified. Mating and migrating is a large part of what Mankind does. Clovis was obviously strengthened and enriched by diverse populations. Sound familiar?🤣

[@tracynorris5012]

Thank you, exactly right ❤

[@bc2578]

They also often hunted each other to extinction, making them vanish.

[@MyBizGuide8]

​@@bc2578Where'd you come up with that?

[@roscoeshepard]

Clovis were supposed to come from Siberia. There has never been found any Clovis projectiles in Siberia. They find Clovis projectiles in Spain and France that date back to about 30000 years.

[@marksmith8928]

Amazing how the paleo indians in the thumbnail lost their ability to grow beards in such an anthropogenically short amount of time. 😊

[@ravenalbj]

Clovis people were the best hunters; The quality of their spear points prove it. They lived in the valleys where the best hunting was, and when the Ice Age ended suddenly, the immense flooding got them extinct the very way so may animals got extinct at that time.

[@davidstone7416]

It seems possible that that tool technology/design changed and the people didn’t disappear- only that particular style of tool.

[@stevegarcia3731]

Clovis is not a culture. Clovis is a technology. No affirmed Clovis human remains have ever been found. See my other comment. The points and caches have been found 85% east of the Mississippi River, NOT out west. But never humans remains with them. Clovis dated finds ended at 12,800 years ago. That was exactly the time of the Younger Dryas. And for over 1,000 years NO REMAINS OF ANY HUMANS OF ANY CULTURE have been found in the Americas. Something happened. The humans in America were wiped out, and OTHERS arrived to replace them. IOW, there were (at least) TWO influxes of humans in America before the start of the Holocene at ~10,000 years ago. That point was ALSO the time when the mammoths disappeared. Mammoths and Clovis disappeared at the same time. And so did more than 30 other large mammals in N America. And over 200 large mammals around the world. And the arkies are pretty much completely in the dark as to what happened. Literally, your guess is as good as theirs.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

There were mastodon bones with animals carved on them found in Florida. They suggest that people were in Florida when those animals were alive, and they were supposed to be extinct before people got to that part of the world. What happened to the "Clovis" people? Their descendants are still here. The curious thing to me is that they changed the way they made their tools. Why?

[@JJ-fq4nl]

They assimilated with other people adopting life styles & tools. There was a drastic change to N. America landscape when those glaciers completely collapsed. People were already in N. America when ice sheets were present (there was 2 with a narrow corridor). The glaciers also dictate climate conditions.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

@@JJ-fq4nl I agree that they assimilated. I'm curious about why they changed the style of their points and tools. The kind with little protrusions on the back look like they'd be easier to attach to an arrow or spear, and the attachment should be stronger I would think. Those long thin points they made are beautiful pieces of work. Is it possible that they changed the type of points when they started using bows and arrows? My understanding is that the first Native Americans didn't use bows and arrows, just atlatles. Maybe when bows came along they started making points for longer distance?

[@35ABSTRACT]

Where’d they go?? Where’d your great grandparents go! Most of their descendants are/were herded into reservations and live there yet. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.

[@hungry07580]

Nonsense many are here in Mexico

[@13gladius28]

Maybe bc they killed off all their favorite prey anmals

[@mysticx0]

MAYBE...the first large scale NA culture. not even close to the first NA people.

[@chriscodrington5464]

before politics????? think about how absurd that is

[@byrons1339]

I attended Fresno State Univ. and there was a city adjacent to Fresno called Clovis. I always wondered if it was name for this group of people.

[@bc2578]

No, the people were named after the town of Clovis, New Mexico, as the archeologists that made the discovery there wanted to go to the nearest town to get a beer after digging all day and that town was Clovis, so the name was attached to the people/culture.

[@Me2Lancer]

Thanks for sharing these insights into the mysterious Clovis People. I hope to learn more as information is developed.

[@luketracey3269]

Actually we live in Nova Scotia. Can prove it too .

[@AnthonyLoflin-nq8wo]

An impact or or atmospheric explosion probably did this. Bits of the Canadian Shield have been found at the Topper site in SC and the channel islands off the CA coast. The dating of this material corresponds exactly to the disappearance of the Clovis people, Wooly Mammoths and Sabertooth Tigers. Something to think about....

[@davidletasi3322]

They never disappeared. Their lithic projectile point technology changed. Archeologists determine traditions by technology markers, not genetic longevity. Once they discontinue, making traditional Clovis point Archeologists consider them a different culture. As game availability changed from specie extinction, this could have driven change in projectile type morphology. Certainly, they were different generations but genetically related. In fact, two different artifact styles in context may even lead some archeologists to believe that two distinct "people" co habited the same habitat. It's just as likely there was one population using more than one technology varient. Recently, even Clovis points are now believed by some archeologists to have been used as knives rather than spear points. In several Clovis sites, occasionally found bone and ivory needle or pins could have easily been used to tip spears rather than flint projectiles. Using bone or ivory virtually unlimited access as they were primarily a hunting tradition. This would conserve limited lithic resources that they seem to select for color and quality.

[@GregJ-c1b]

This is the equivalent to a junior high book report when the lazy kid didn’t read the book or do the assignment but had to stand in front of the class and act like he did. The “facts” are not so much wrong as just randomly made up to sound like they know what they’re talking about. Pretty much nothing in here is accurate or close to correct. I would honestly not be surprised if it actually was a lazy eighth grader who did this video. Where do you start? To pick a couple, no, the points found at Clovis were not made of the bones of prehistoric animal. Their stone points that were used to kill the animals. And Fin del Mundo does mean the end of the world because it’s a site in Tierra Del Fuego at the tip of South America, not Sonora, which is in Mexico. And for one scene of migrating, Clovis people, they show Indians on horseback. Horses came to N America with the Spanish well after 1500. So please apply the same degree of laughable skepticism to the nonsense factoids about what happened to the closest people, etc. etc. do yourself a favor any when watching this and read a little or watch a little from an actual archaeologist or historian and wipe this nonsense out of your

[@chedhess345]

They went with Noah flood .

[@123Goldhunter11]

If we weren't ruled by psychopaths, we'd be pointing our missiles at space rocks instead of each other.

[@kvppvk]

European Fallow Deer, the ones in your film, with white spots, would not have occurred in the Americas at that time.

[@saber4250]

The clovis people are mixed into native American/ mexican DNA.

[@curly__3]

We won't last as long as the clovis...not even close. So who was more advanced?

[@johnking6252]

Look around you, they're everywhere? 🌎✌️🌍

[@garyking9908]

They evolved into the clovis hitch people

[@scottjohnson9225]

I’m going to vanish. I figure a few years left.

[@jeniferjordan35]

Gathering was far more the earliest way of life not hunting.

[@lutheruler7487]

O god WM back lying and erasing history again

[@sciencegremlin8307]

Stock footage and text to speech. Yuck.

[@stevoplex]

They were Stomped by Gomphotheres!

[@hereswhatmyseeingeyedogsez7745]

This word "indigenous" is too overused. As far as humanity is concerned, the word "indigenous" is an extremely unwelcome one. Nobody will ever know precisely who---race or human species----was the first on either North American or South American continents. The white man was the first to step foot on the moon over 50 years ago. Just because the "White Man" was the first to step foot on the moon, does not make the "White Race" the owners of the moon, let alone indigenous to it.

[@Sinnedone7]

so thats the original land of oros.

[@AgathaR-v5y]

Disappearance of Mastodon and Mammoth don't cause a decrease in the quality of stone tools when giant Bison are still running around.

[@babusastry]

Too many generalities. Most statements uttered and video scenes can apply to do many ancient cultures. Very disappointed.

[@timothymills3864]

Thanks for the insightful information on white sands. Kinda throughs a gear into the works don’t it.😅

[@flipflopski2951]

AI generated crap...

[@Cattrez]

How you going to tell the Iroquois are history of ancient times your numbers off way off

[@Pypnlr4ug]

The assumption here is that Clovis folks kept to themselves, forsaking all others.

[@andyg.162]

before humans there were cows in North America ???????????????????????????????????????????????? odd starting video !!!

[@cpt.blainesmotie6068]

What is BCE?

[@RCSVirginia]

Question: Why Did the Clovis People Mysteriously Vanish? Answer: They hunted all the American megafauna to extinction, and there was no longer a need for their Clovis hunting technology.

[@BrambleWood]

just cultural development, the same can be seen in europe

[@jackiefialkowski2892]

Is it possible they integrated with native Americans and also breeding together? When did the first Native Americans arrive in North America or anywhere else on the planet?

[@JamesWalters-s3u]

Find lots of different points in Oklahoma, an tools that match really ancient hand axes

[@anndriggers6660]

They are native Americans.

[@elainemunro4621]

There was no Clovis culture! Those artifacts were the result of widespread trading by numerous native groups who learned to make them in the same manner. Duh.

[@BrianShaneRushton]

But they've literally found a skeleton of a clovis child and sequenced its genome

[@JMTrucking1417]

I thought thts wht you were going to tell us !

[@airborneranger-ret]

Liked and subbed

[@michaelschott5590]

Nova

[@deepwood4]

You forgot to mention that they were Caucasian.

[@henriklykkejensen8225]

They stayed on the continent of America. And they evolved into present day Native Americans!!! You will never say or claim. That the first people in Europe disappeared. You know they evolved into today's Europeans!

[@UseByDate-Expired]

Hilarious video. I knew at the very beginning when he said "supposed eclipse", to get my tin foil hat and popcorn.

[@stevegarcia3731]

This narration with its speaking down to the viewer, is pretty insulting and shame on this production. Also, this tells us that the Anzick kid found in Montana was Clovis. The Anzick kid IS the only so-called Clovis human remains - BUT IT IS NOT CLOVIS. Arkies have lowered their standards on approval of this skeleton as Clovis. Why? Because they only call it Clovis because it was found kind of close to a Clovis cache of points and tools. AJD THEY HAVE WANTED TO FIND CLOVIS PEOPLE THEMSELVES FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS AND STILL HAVE NONE. The kid was found close to, the tools, but the connection with the tools WAS NEVER even close to being established with any certainty at all. I have in my possession documents written and signed by the actual finders and the first arkie connected with this find. And they all say that non-archaeologists dug up the body and removed it before any arkie could determine its provenance. In every other case I have ever heard of in decades, such a desecration would SPECIFICALLY be determined to not be provable. So the Anzick kid, carbon dated to 12,600 years ago (200 years after the Clovis period), WAS NOT CLOVIS BY ANY ARCHAEOLOGICAL STANDARDS. SHAME ON THIS PRODUCTION. SHAME ON ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO KEEP CLAIMING THE ANZICK KID WAS CLOVIS.

[@michaeldavidson1909]

This narrator (sythetic?) sounds like he 's speaking to a 5th grade class.

[@georgegonzalez1996]

The Clovis “people” were not a homogeneous group. They simply shared a technology (the Clovis point) and that’s what they had in common with each other. Today we can be termed as the “cellphone people” because that’s the technology we share with a large percentage of the world. But the people didn’t go anywhere, the technology changed.

[@ronison5020]

Clovis people did not "vanish", their tools changed when the megafauna were wiped out. It's like saying that Europeans vanished because they switched from using horses to using motor vehicles.

[@oscargranda5385]

Hubo un cambio en la tecnología de casa.....no desaparecieron......cambiaron su tecnología por el cambio de presas para cazar

[@kungfu2toe]

What did the last 2 clovises say? EAT ME

[@joshua-nf3rx]

I’m half Clovis, on my moms side.

[@Insultingtruth]

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