Why Did The Germans Destroy Their Own Fleet After WW1? | Sinking the German Battle Fleet | Timeline

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@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I was paid a visit to the Orkney Islands and, in our favourite pub, they sold Scapa Beer. Scapa Beer's advertising slogan at the time was "Goes down faster than the German Fleet".
@richardkeilig4062
@richardkeilig4062 9 ай бұрын
Great program.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 Жыл бұрын
In short, the German fleet was "not deployed" immediately in 1914 for the very simple reason that it had already failed to achieve sufficient strength in capital ships to oppose the RN at all, i.a.w. the tenets of Tirpitz "Risk Theory." Britain had, in fact, already 'won' the pre-war Anglo-German naval arms race. The High Seas Fleet was consequently obliged to seek repeatedly, via one stratagem after another, to isolate and ambush only a portion of the British Grand Fleet in hope of being able to reduce Germany's overall numerical disadvantage to a point where a subsequent general engagement could be sought.
@murrayscott9546
@murrayscott9546 Жыл бұрын
Great post ! Thanks to all involved.
@danmar007
@danmar007 Жыл бұрын
Another great example of how war is insane.
@murrayscott9546
@murrayscott9546 Жыл бұрын
That last cruise must have been sad and laced with bitterness.
@model101t800
@model101t800 7 ай бұрын
It is completely mind blowing that in the years that followed the British salvaged the fleet and sold the steel to Germany, who then built ships and U-boats from it, the U-47 is perhaps the greatest irony, a U-boat built from remains of the battle of Jutland which sank a Battle of Jutland veteran, the Royal Oak
@kryts27
@kryts27 Жыл бұрын
By scuttling the Grand Fleet of the Kaisherlich Marine, the Germans harmed least their principal opponent; the British Royal Navy. As the ownership of the vessels of the Grand Fleet were being squabbled over in Versailles, giving several German dreadnoughts to the French, Italians or Americans was not in the interest of the Royal Navy. So by scuttling their ships, the German sailors got the Royal Navy, more or less, off the hook.
@JuliusC1973
@JuliusC1973 Жыл бұрын
A waste of great ships. If The Kaiser wasn't willing to lose them in bettle against The Allies, why build them in the first place? The very existence of such a large Fleet is what drove The United Kingdom to see Alliances with France, Russia and Japan in the first place. Maybe World War I never takes place or is a much smaller conflict and millions fewer are killed or wounded.
@tenin982000
@tenin982000 Жыл бұрын
the german fleet was no match for the british. they had way more then them
@JuliusC1973
@JuliusC1973 Жыл бұрын
@@tenin982000 As they showed at The Battle of Jutland, The German Navy could fight The Royal Navy, not as a whole but groups of ships could engage the Royal Navy. The German Navy could have done a lot more during World War I than they did. The U-Boat Arm, The Submarine Service carried the war against The British far more than The Surface Fleet did.
@SennaAugustus
@SennaAugustus Жыл бұрын
@@JuliusC1973 Jutland showed that the Surface Fleet could do nothing against the Grand Fleet. They could sink more ships, so what? Ships can be replaced, the blockade was never lifted, Britain still ruled the waves, and the only time the Germans considered coming out again was the Death Sortie.
@viciousoptimist3542
@viciousoptimist3542 5 ай бұрын
Interesting inclusion of footage of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff @51:40 - another tragic vessel.
@fluffygutts2240
@fluffygutts2240 6 ай бұрын
Artefacts from the fleet are on display at the Scapa Flow museum. Pop by and say hello, I'll pop the kettle on!
@lynnwood7205
@lynnwood7205 Жыл бұрын
Both the British and the French Empires were financially exhausted. It was only the collapse of the German monarchy before the Armistice was signed that allowed Britain and France to pose as victors.
@cameronmaden6268
@cameronmaden6268 Жыл бұрын
So was the German empire they just printed currency and confiscated and decirculated gold to hide the fact
@chrisparnham
@chrisparnham Жыл бұрын
Germany, Russia and the Austro-Hungarians were even more financially exhausted they were also losing the war and facing a revolution or had had one. Before the end, the Austro-Hungarian Empire collapsed and surrendered when the Italians refused to stop advancing. This followed the collapse of Bulgaria and was followed by the Ottoman Empire capitulation. Germany's high command informed their government that the military situation facing Germany was hopeless the Kaiser abdicated and fled. Germany surrendered. Nobody had to pose as victors Britain and France were victorious and carved up most of the remains between themselves. It was a terrible and pointless war costing millions of lives and enormous amounts of money. That was reason enough that a lot of politicians and most of their people thought a war on this scale could never happen again and we all know how that unfortunately turned out.
@xCeLProDucTionZz
@xCeLProDucTionZz 10 ай бұрын
Either way Germany was doomed to fail when Britain entered the war eventually Germany would if starved ran out of gas or oil war with Britain in 1914 was suicidal for any country
@kryts27
@kryts27 Жыл бұрын
Germany was not in a good geostratigic position in WW1, after the British Empire declared war on her as a result of the invasion of neutral Belgium (this was tactically to fulfill the Schlieffen Plan; an attempt to knock France out of the war early). As we know the Schlieffen Plan failed and then trench warfare ensued on land. At sea, Germany's geostrategic position was even worse as she was bottled up in the Baltic Sea and could not freely sail the North Sea because Britain was there. At that time, Britain was the largest sea power in the world. Somehow the Kaiser's political think tanks missed this geostrategic impasse risk by firstly building up a modern dreadnought navy (clearly to challenge the British and in the "prestige" of being a growing colonial power, particularly in Africa and in East Asia) and by declaring war against Russia and France in support of the ailing Austria-Hungarian Empire. The British may have remained usefully neutral in a general European war, had the Kaiser's powerful navy had not been there.
@baraahhamdi8533
@baraahhamdi8533 Жыл бұрын
i can't blame german for being furious and raging WW2
@katherinecollins4685
@katherinecollins4685 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 Жыл бұрын
One could consider the battleship fleets of Britain and Germany as being 'too big to fail.'
@DanH-u3f
@DanH-u3f Жыл бұрын
It was a matter of pride and so they don't become target practice for the Brits.
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense!!!
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography of the WW-1 ships sinking. Dive crew investigation of WW-1 sunk ships. Special thanks to guest speakers separating facts from fiction.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Жыл бұрын
14:40 For Germany, it could be expressed as a victory for a smaller navy to maneuver a large navy to do so little during the war. Sure, there were battles. Same with the British. To both, their fleets were a force in being. An earlier less potent Mutual Assured Distruction.
@landsea7332
@landsea7332 Жыл бұрын
For legitimate scholars who study the topic , Jutland is considered a tactical victory for the German Fleet , but as the naval blockaid of Germany continued , its considered a strategic victory for the Royal Navy . .
@jamesross1799
@jamesross1799 Жыл бұрын
To destroy them and prevent us the british using them id have thought.
@clvrswine
@clvrswine Жыл бұрын
Lame. Please use capitals, and basic language rules when commenting. "id" of thought is just lazy and "us" can mean the United States. Lazy.
@mgrzx3367
@mgrzx3367 5 ай бұрын
2:16 Nice use of the SMS Szent István sinking in the Strait of Otranto near the Adriatic Sea. The newspaper headline says The Grand Scuttle. It's an Austro-Hungarian ship sunk in 1918. Not very historical to the German Fleet. Public domain should shun you. Keep up the "good" work.
@Scott-jf1nh
@Scott-jf1nh Жыл бұрын
It was the special design of the Diesel engines. That was the secret
@WhatWhy42
@WhatWhy42 Жыл бұрын
That's why they sunk their ships?... I thought all ships were diesel back then.. ⛽
@jeffbybee5207
@jeffbybee5207 Жыл бұрын
Diesels were not very large or completely refined yet from destroyers on up most ships were steam turbine with only some of the oldest still have triple expansion steam engines
@russelltatum262
@russelltatum262 Жыл бұрын
Kaiser 's ghost fleet.
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Жыл бұрын
Deep down under into King 👑 Neptune land 🐙🐙
@robynw6307
@robynw6307 Жыл бұрын
At least as POWs, the german crews would have been fed. This clearly wasn't happening when they were on board ship if they had to trade for food. People in glass houses.......
@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx
@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx Жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they could raise the ships and create a museum of them
@tenin982000
@tenin982000 Жыл бұрын
that would be a terrible idea. ecosystems claimed them not to mention the damage of rust.
@moomixgaming9986
@moomixgaming9986 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this guy really took his toys and went home.
@frankh.5378
@frankh.5378 Жыл бұрын
Is the question rhetorical? Isn't it obvious that losers of the war has to disband or decommission their military?
@danrooc
@danrooc Жыл бұрын
Not really. It all depends on the agreed peace terms. E.g. France didn't surredender her fleet to Prussia in 1871.
@SennaAugustus
@SennaAugustus Жыл бұрын
No, the most common practice was to not waste perfectly good ships, and distribute them to other countries like Britain, France, Italy, Japan, and the US in this case.
@danrooc
@danrooc Жыл бұрын
@@SennaAugustus Except for 1918 against Germany, what other case makes "common" such practice?
@dominicdmello7531
@dominicdmello7531 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a British victory in either war. It was the entry of the Americans with their industrial might and numbers that won both wars. And I'm not American.
@stanpolchinski8956
@stanpolchinski8956 Жыл бұрын
waste of my time. spoken german in tiny type on my hand held cell are not readable - legible. garbage!
@europa3962
@europa3962 11 ай бұрын
I'm German American and you are half coreect. Americans entered into the battle in April of 1918. They were on the field less than 7 months when Germany settled for the armistice. It was German exhaustion and the blockade by the German people that decided the war. America had little impact from a military perspective and more from an industrial capacity.
@xCeLProDucTionZz
@xCeLProDucTionZz 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much every historian agreeds Britain navy was too superior for any country to block a navy blockade America joining the war just speed things up people don’t realise just how overwhelming powerful the Royal Navy was during ww1 its home fleet alone was bigger then the entire German navy and all of her fleets was bigger then Germany and American navy combined this is why hilter intentionally avoided a war with uk as it knew it was a war it could not win proven by Britain joining the war millions starving in Germany same for world war 2 America just speeding things ups sovients alone would of beaten hilter
@paulgraystone4919
@paulgraystone4919 Жыл бұрын
are not some of the metal of those ships, is a store of rare metal created when the background radiation level was much lower than todays metals or the near future! ( in the 70s I lived an worked in Orphir and isle of Flotta )
@clvrswine
@clvrswine Жыл бұрын
*If you are asking a question, use a question mark! Yes, English matters. Don't comment if you can't make sense.
@paulgraystone4919
@paulgraystone4919 Жыл бұрын
@@clvrswine if u dont understand my info, u should go an find a second brain cell for ur self!
@dougvarley3303
@dougvarley3303 Жыл бұрын
Annoying background music!
@teridacktaljones4553
@teridacktaljones4553 Жыл бұрын
🐼
@botanicagravez
@botanicagravez Жыл бұрын
Wow
@ChrisP3000x
@ChrisP3000x Жыл бұрын
It's takes an hour to tell me why? Cut to the chase.
@adamdudley8736
@adamdudley8736 Жыл бұрын
You can just skip forward.. or you can sit back and learn something
@tenin982000
@tenin982000 Жыл бұрын
so impatient and forget how videos work or you can simply google it lol
@ChrisP3000x
@ChrisP3000x Жыл бұрын
@@adamdudley8736 It's called a life.
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Жыл бұрын
Keeps the episode more suspenseful.
@WestSideGorilla1980
@WestSideGorilla1980 Жыл бұрын
Rage quit
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын
What an ultra tyranny committed by the British against the surrounded German Empire Navy.what an ultra glory practiced by Germany naval crews....
@cantbyou3086
@cantbyou3086 Жыл бұрын
Lazy editor, voice over translators, dyslexia is real.
@lavernejones1973
@lavernejones1973 Жыл бұрын
Jesus is Alive he loved I saw you heard a loud voice that you couldn't see get white look up to heaven God bless
@Floody77
@Floody77 Жыл бұрын
Wtf are you talking about ????!!!!
@kobushauman3310
@kobushauman3310 Жыл бұрын
Jesus is the Messiah the Lord God and His Holy Ghost 🙌🏿✝️🧎🏽
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Жыл бұрын
I has a guy named Jesus who cuts my grass. Same guy ya think ???
@robertspray7472
@robertspray7472 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidM2002same guy that works on my car? Good dude.
@willboudreau1187
@willboudreau1187 Жыл бұрын
Lack of English translator, down arrow, skip and move on.
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