Why Did This 44 watt Amp Cost $600? 1990 Autotek 9050 BTS

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@bugman72 10 ай бұрын

I still have my 9050BTS from my days of competing in USAC as a Team Savard member. Also have an Autotek 333, a 66 and a 99 as well as both a 7005 and 7006 EQs. LOVED the Autotek stuff.

@TerpDaDerp 10 ай бұрын

I love savard! I have 4 of the HiQ 10s and they take all sorts of abuse. Such fantastic products hands down.

@jasonbear681 10 ай бұрын

The BTS amps will always be my favorite..had a 7600,2 7100s and a 7050 in my competition car in the early 90s

@troyrexroth5378 10 ай бұрын

I had 4 7050 bts xx amps , ran them at 1 ohm 4dvc 12 orions', 2 15 dvc orions, show winner 200 watt class 147db + perfect score sound quality on the meter!

@josephroberts6027 10 ай бұрын

As a dealer and shop manager, I remember when my rep came in one day and tossed this little brick looking thing on my desk with 4ga power wires sticking out of it. Said it was a game changer in the amp world, and I needed to get him a box with a pair of MTX blue thunder 10's in it. It was rated at 18 watts per channel. I naturally laughed at him. MAN did I regret that!! That damn little 18 x18 amp beat the pure crap out of those woofers!! The game was on from that point. Our first order with them was 20k and that was a lot back then. SOLD an absolute TON of it, along with Clarion radios and speakers for the front end!

@norrisfreeman7903 10 ай бұрын

I had a 7100BTS and 7300BTS in a 1983 Mercury Grand Marquis. The 7300 was pushing 4 MTX RT2 15's in an isobaric BP4 enclosure.

@jamms992 10 ай бұрын

I loved my 7300Bts pushing two Orion xtr tens

@89G 10 ай бұрын

My cheater favs were Zapco's. But that was a walk down memory lane! I still run an Orion in my Mustang.

@eddiewaring1654 10 ай бұрын

I live here in modesto. I have a nice collection of my zapcos from the 90s

@89G 10 ай бұрын

@@eddiewaring1654 they are fantastic amps. I'm jealous. I burned up my last Zapco about a year ago. It was only a Z100, but it really brought the juice.

@MrBetaTube 10 ай бұрын

Never played with Zapco high curret amps.....I still have 6 of the Z220's. A buch of Eqs, and custom plates. Fun fact: When Zapco wanted to go the really high power route. I let them borrow one of my Power 650's. They broke it.... Rockford fixed it for free.

@89G 10 ай бұрын

@@MrBetaTube that's a story to cherish! A huge part of car audio history. That is really cool!

@MrBetaTube 10 ай бұрын

@@89G More fun facts: Zapco Z50 amplifier had the rear channels wired backwards for the first production run. Alpine copied the amp design with the defects. Employees hated the PEQ ( zapboard ) they had to machine all the rectangular holes for the sliders by hand. Plus they would make the cables for the EQ at home for extra money. Speaking about the PEQ. When ever you sent any zapco products in for repair. They always fixed/replaced anything broken. So. When I sent one customers PEQ in for a connector plug repair ( connectors are made by a British company called Viking ) I told them not to replace the sliders, as the customer preferred them to be broken off....it is much easier to use. Zapco ignored my request, and replaced them. When I showed the customer, he ran his palm over the EQ, and gave me a handful of broken knobs with white caps on them.

@cpufrost 10 ай бұрын

Very solid design. Great damping and woofer control.

@HifiVega 10 ай бұрын

These were the epitome of high end back in the day! 44 watts for $600 doe 😮😮

@jermainephillips5179 10 ай бұрын

I still haveca couple of these autotek BTS amps in my collection.great amps

@hankshobbies 10 ай бұрын

Awesome video as always…..love the old school stuff

@nunyabizznizz7326 10 ай бұрын

one of my favorite channels!

@undernature2799 10 ай бұрын

Those. 25 ohm stable amps were the heat for competition's. Very nice amp Ty sir for sharing much appreciated 🤞

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@maestro0428 10 ай бұрын

I had two Orion 225hcca amps in my rig in the 90s. They were the best of the best.

@MrTestertester 4 ай бұрын

I remember they had bumper stickers that said "Why have punch when you can have Champagne". I still have my Punch 45,Alpine 7292s with 6 disc cd changer and several Fultron amps. Wish I would have kept my US Amps and Autotek amps.

@Moddwerx3Dtech 10 ай бұрын

i still have my Autotek 7030 and 7150 and i also have two 7300 models. i was a huge fan in the competition circuit back in the early 90s. Very nice amplifiers for the money

@misterhat5823 10 ай бұрын

I'd call the US Amps VLX-400 the king of cheater amps.

@timbarney53 10 ай бұрын

Great video. love seeing what these old amps can do. would love to see you dyno some even more rare brands , perhaps Nxs made by Audio Art , Power 1000 supposedly made by PPI , Audio Gods made by Hollywood and i think there has gotta be some other people that would like to see some Hollywood Sound Labs. Keep up the good work , Thanks

@silentbuccaneer4569 9 ай бұрын

I remember I started to build my audio system back in 1995 with a Rockford Fosgate Punch 60 to run my mids and highs and a Punch 100 to run my subs. It wasnt my first system but it was the first system to be built by professional installers. I was happy with it but I caught the bug for loudness. I went back to the installers and asked for it to be louder and cleaner. So I gave them permission to turn my truck in to whatever they wanted. I went out to sea and they began their work. They ended up putting a pair of USD Waveguide As under the dash( they actually ripped the lower half of my dash out and made brackets and perforated steal.mesh covered in matching grey speaker cloth. They put a pair of 6.5 Diamond Audio in the kick panels, a pair of Diamond Audio Mid-Woofers in a custom enclosure in the doors and 4 - 12 inch IMPP Pioneer subs ported through the bed. At that tike I had the Sony CD player that was copper coated, with a 10 disc CD changer in the dash in front of the passenger. I had all Audio Control processors. ESP2, Epicenter, 4XS and a pair of EQTs. For the amps, I was running a Punch 60 to the waveguides, a Punch 100 to the 6.5s, another Punch 100 to the 8s and two Power 50Ms bridged to the 4 - 12s. I remember looking at one of the Punch 100 test papers and max output was 461 watts. I dont remember what the others were but being rated at 50×2 into 4 ohms and coming out with that kind of power. I miss the green Dodge Dakota. It was rated at 360 watts, so it kept me below 500 in competitions but it was pushing almost 3,000 watts. Back then, like today, they didnt make anything for the Dakota for after market. So I had my alternator rebuilt to push out 400 amps. With that alternator and an extra battery with a battery isolator, my truck was never starved for power.

@warpedhifi1 10 ай бұрын

WOW, first time I seen a 9050 BTS!

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

It was the first time I’d seen one in person also 👌

@oldguyBMX 10 ай бұрын

I have a old 90s white AUTOTECH street machine 800WATT. It's really heavy and it was a beast back in the day i was pushing 4 kicker solo basic 12s in my Tahoe. Any idea what it really pushes? TIA

@ganeshnarayan5505 10 ай бұрын

Dam i love these older amp test Thanks big D.

@RVecc 10 ай бұрын

oohh yyeeeaaahhh... that's the amp... had one of these driving 2 RF Series 1 15" 4ohm subs isobarically mounted and ran parallel for a 2 ohm load. Sounded great IMO. It wasn't as loud as the same box being driven by the O.G. Hifonics Hercules, but I "had plans" for the 9050...

@marcdich 10 ай бұрын

Hey, you mentioned Savard I was recently down in the area where Savard makes their speakers down in Baton Rouge, but when I was down there, I had noticed they moved their factory. I don’t know where it went to, but it was not in the usual location where it was last time I seen it back in the early 1990s so after watching your video I was glad to hear that they’re still around and they’re still making stuff I assume they were but next time I go down there I’m gonna have to find out where the rat because man Savard made a lot of good stuff even back in the 90 they made some home stereo speakers that were technically in my book Quality because they really used a lot of good drivers so and some of that stuff is out there used and still brings pretty good money for what they are cause they built very good speaker cabinets with good components. I think their compound cabinets were built built out of the birch or pine or some good quality wood they just weren’t plywood, they definitely weren’t particleboard. Anyway thanks for the video I keep up on you I watch you all the time.

@dirtyd2099 10 ай бұрын

Those autotech amps were so underrated that it was criminal. I had the 7100. I miss that amp so much.

@samwayne5765 10 ай бұрын

Just curious your opinion, is it worth it to run some vintage equipment in a modern setup for the nostalgia or no? I got some old school Rockford gems that I’d honestly like to put to use

@envisionelectronics 10 ай бұрын

The difference in the amps was the transformer and an adjustment to the VA limiter. That’s it. A premium for a special color.

@msh6865 10 ай бұрын

Marketing ftw

@drozcompany4132 9 ай бұрын

And a lower manufacturer rated power which is all IASCA cared about.

@bradleythompson7609 10 ай бұрын

Still have my Autotek Mean Machine 222 tucked in the closet. Kinda scared to hook it up considering it's still factory, never been into. Had a 99 pushing 4 Fosgate Series 1 15s back in the day. Maybe I'll get brave one day and run the 222 again.

@richarddillon2632 10 ай бұрын

I had 6 of these and they were pretty good, I remember guys saying that I was hiding some big Amplifiers in my speaker box for it to be as loud as it was and in one competition the judges pulled a few of my subs out looking for more amps but I wasn't hiding anything

@jesuszazueta9499 7 ай бұрын

I had the older gray version 7100 I believe, on two 12” Lanzar boy oh boy did it SLAM!!!!!

@yougod7253 10 ай бұрын

Those were the Days. 😮😮

@tedtan6449 7 ай бұрын

Still using 90's stuff today...

@bigdogbrodavepresents6178 10 ай бұрын

Mr FOSGATE's Patented Tone Control aka 12db Treble and 18db Bass setup became free game. One of the early adopters of THAT technology. Writing on the wall for ol RF... I remember these amps stealing market share... What a time it was. BDBD/2024

@Warg666 10 ай бұрын

At 11:30 in I see something strange, right above the pots there is R105 but it is jumped to R26 & R26 is jumped to R105 An am I seeing things, but does the resistor by the heatsink to the left look a lil burned? It has Chip M9006 right below it.

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

I no longer have the amp so I can’t check it unfortunately

@TejasAutoSalonJasonW 10 ай бұрын

I ROCKED A PAIR OF THOSE IN MY 97 4RUNNER! Loved em. Should never have sold that truck. They powered my OG MB Quart components. Nothing like the stuff they have now.

@michaelr1624 10 ай бұрын

I had autotek amp in the mid 90’s, it was by far the best one I had.

@mattfranklin3622 10 ай бұрын

Your speaking for American markets! Here in the U.K. Phoenix gold and Rockford fosgate were the daddies!

@randybehill8136 10 ай бұрын

Classic BadAss Video Mr D...😎

@lassediscovers1813 10 ай бұрын

Have you tried the Juice Audio brand?

@gilbertw5370 10 ай бұрын

In 1987 I ran 2 punch 45s and there were several in my class running the 425 HCCA and I know that was the best cheater amp of the day. Luckily my system allowed one 45 to power the front stage or 6 15s with the flip of a switch while the other were using deck power on the front stage and I killed on SQ and installation

@bondovwvw 10 ай бұрын

My 7300 bts was stolen a long time ago. I almost caught the guy. I was devastated. I ran the 44 watt amp in a accord with 2 15s , 2 mids and 2 tweeters all off the 44 watt amp.

@OnealEddie 10 ай бұрын

I have the exact amp! I'm still using it on 6x9's and highs!

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

Oh wow I haven’t seen many of these over the years

@josephrankin5434 10 ай бұрын

what about the old lanzar optidrive 50C

@James-sir 10 ай бұрын

What was the 13,500 dollar phoenix gold amp from 90? 1min 41 sec in

@julesbruchez-theartofgrapp9646 10 ай бұрын

Friend of mine had a 4 channel Autotek pushing 4 Kicker 12s. Insane

@wijibo6772 10 ай бұрын

I used to have a Profile pa2120. I'd love to know what power it actually did. I think it was rated at like 120 watts.

@99Duds 10 ай бұрын

Even tho the true sound does not come though you can compare other demos you have done with the same speakers to get an idea of how it sounds different from other amps.

@BLAxWOLF-i 10 ай бұрын

What's that's choking air noise coming out of port or sub Box

@only126db 10 ай бұрын

I have always wondered why testing isnt done at 13.4-13.6 and all old school amps at 12.5 when alternators back in the day were low amp.

@marksmusicobsession 10 ай бұрын

Linear Power still the best vintage IMO

@ThatPatriot 10 ай бұрын

I was always a fan of the Zed HiFonics amps, Zeus, Boltar, Gemini, never had the Olympus

@rayshaffers1488 10 ай бұрын

Had 7050xx on 2 JL 10s and 7030 on the highs😊

@jandjhotwheels 10 ай бұрын

Have you done any testing on the old school Thor or Zues amps from the 90's? In the bay area they were one of the strongest amps on the market.

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

Zeus VII here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/javGl6tpfpenmtE Boltar VII here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKuTlYtvjqqKi8U Odin VIII here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZjZYWCIjparh8k

@jandjhotwheels 10 ай бұрын

@wal2 Thanks bro! I'll check them out. Just finished watching the battle between the Orion and the Hifonics Isis video...close match up 😃👍👍🤙

@palletking2106 10 ай бұрын

What about the silverado series?

@svtnick5412 10 ай бұрын

What I don’t understand is if it rated for 22 watts at 12 volts but you test at 14 volts and get more wouldn’t that mean you’re just getting exactly what they are rated for? If you tested them at 12 volts they’d probably test out at rated??

@7279Hunter 10 ай бұрын

I have an autotek stealth xs550.2 would you like to test it?

@ChicagoMillingCo. 10 ай бұрын

Cheater amps today are the ones that say 4,000,000 watts but can only do 12.

@matthewstorm5188 10 ай бұрын

You had no shortage of those back then, either. Think Pyramid, Evergreen, Rockwood, Kenford, etc.

@tomb9566 3 ай бұрын

@@matthewstorm5188he tested a rockwood that did rated. My father had a shop in the 90s until he retired in 05, but when my system got stolen and I was mad that I lost my Kenwood 4042 baby eq, he goes in give me a rockwood clone, mind you it didn't change colors but it had something the Kenwood didn't, a auxiliary input. When he gave it to me he said Kenwood is shit. I wish I knew back then what I know now because he had 12 us amp surfboards on the wall and I thought they were bulky trash.

@jimmycraze9826 2 ай бұрын

I ran the 7100 autotek to my 12 in Cerwin Vegas back in 1991. In my S-10 blazer and it slammed them .

@wal2 2 ай бұрын

I have a 7100 also and tested it years ago. See the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y57df6NmotyIabM

@shanen921 10 ай бұрын

It seems for the money Orion or MTX would be better for competition. I know the Orion puts out around 400 watts into a 1ohm.

@msh6865 10 ай бұрын

From the days of loud car audio. Not one note burp machines.

@cemyalcin3062 10 ай бұрын

I wish you showed the output transistors too

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

I’m not a fan of prying off these spring clips

@alejandroaguilar9038 10 ай бұрын

QUESTION! WHAT WOULD HPPEN IF YOU REMOVED THE REGULATOR ON SOME OF THESE AMPS AND FED THEM MORE VOLTS ?!?!?!

@JasonWW2000 10 ай бұрын

There is no regulator to remove. The entire power supply half of the amp is based on a regulated style of power supply.

@shawnk4517 10 ай бұрын

So minty, so pretty!

@russelllopez4171 10 ай бұрын

I disliked the Rockford 50x2 and 50.2 for the comments you made near the end regarding the cost for an amplifier that catered to the rules and not the customer. When the rules changed, the amplifiers became obsolete. I would rather have a customer buy a 100.2 or 200.2 I have a pair of 50m’s. I have😮 strapped them and run a fixed impedance of 1.33 ohms and I estimate power was somewhere around 800-900 for quick bursts of 1 sec. I had the dd-1+ on it, but no official readout. And also as high of voltage as I could go without triggering protection. I like the 50m’s and 50.1’s just because together they could almost do about 10 times the power under the right circumstances. I remember the MTX one doing great numbers as well, but I also remember MTX having build quality issues. Still. All good memories nonetheless.

@matthewstorm5188 10 ай бұрын

Looks like, for the price, the Punch 45 was ultimately a FAR better deal if you never planned to drop below 2Ω stereo/4Ω mono. For that matter, $600 would have gotten you a Punch 150, which would have blown this amp out of the water with money to spare. Of course, you couldn’t compete in the same power class with that amp. But for the average kid who just wanted a car that BUMPED, the Punch 150 was a FAR better choice. This all certainly explains why the Fosgate amps sold FAR better.

@bayramoglumurathan925 10 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@paulgarcia6257 10 ай бұрын

Don’t forget ole mmats d100-300hc…

@hadbl12 10 ай бұрын

Yes, very good amps from back in the day

@quevicular 10 ай бұрын

I had one of these amps and I didnt know it had a 1ohm stereo rating?!

@robertgriffin742 10 ай бұрын

I had a BTS 7100 & I still have a BTS 222 with a switch under it if anyone out there knows about the real power it puts out

@drozcompany4132 9 ай бұрын

These kids today braggin on their multi-kilowatt setups have no idea what you could do with "only" 44 Watts with efficient speakers and dedication. It was WAY more flex to blow someone's ears out with under fifty Watts than 2 kW.

@richeygoldberg8549 10 ай бұрын

Because it was a bad ass amp.

@hizsunhisatake6156 10 ай бұрын

I'd take the PG MPS 2240 over the Orion

@BigEvil2005 10 ай бұрын

Made in the USA! WOW The good old days

@mullinperformanceaudio5902 10 ай бұрын

If you weren't cheating, you wasn't trying hard enough.

@74midwestbass74 10 ай бұрын

Nice

@defaultdriftco00 10 ай бұрын

When I was a young teen, going to all the local stereo shops was a hobby. Checking out all the cool new stuff, World HiFi was the shop, carried Autotek. Compared with Orion and the Rockford Fosgate, I always thought the autotek’s looked cheaper because of the bass and treble knobs and the molex connections. Never saw anyone running them at the local competitions, either.

@jesusrocha9856 10 ай бұрын

Not worth the price now. I'd rather get a 5k tara amp for fraction of the price. We have it easy these days.

@crisnmaryfam7344 10 ай бұрын

Molex was a fire hazard from the moment it came about. Never should have used them. Car audio or Desktop pc's alike.

@tomb9566 3 ай бұрын

It's a shame what maxxsonic has done to autotek

@stereomojo 10 ай бұрын

Wow, what a terrible deal. I thought it would do more than that.

@wal2 10 ай бұрын

We paid big back in the day