Why do 89 percent F&O traders lose money ?? | SEBI Report | Vivek Bajaj

After reading the recent report by SEBI on the Analysis of Profit and Loss of Individual traders dealing in the Equity F&O Segment, I, Vivek Bajaj, thought of giving my view on this and how one should be careful. To download and read the PDF by SEBI, tap - bit.ly/3Dk0g6A
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[@VivekBajaj]

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[@tusharpotdar5762]

I wish not to be a part of 11% but want to be one, who improve those 11% to 11.1% and take it towards 25%

[@rahuljaat5489]

Sir ek hi baat kahuga kisi bhi kaam ko sikne ke liye 10000 + hour lagte hai Aapke he chenal per suna tha Aap se he seka 5 lack ka loos bhi hua 2019 to oct 2022 tak per mughe pura bisbaas he ki jo chahiye tha bo system mil gaya not setup aur sayed because abhi 4 month he hue hai me ek kisaan ji ha ek gaab ka ladka market me profetebal ho Gaya lekin ek sahi intension sahi return of persent ke saat You and megna mem my hero

[@dakshaydesai]

mentorship program sell karne video banaya .. very good .. mentorship program main 89% profitable traders ? if yes fir to TV biwi sab jagah wohi highlight hoga .. if not ur also another person who sells their paid versions .. coz 10k ya 10 lac ka course karke trading nhi sikh sakte real live trades sath main dilwake hotahai 10000 ka trade lene b jigra lagtahai woh confidence dena padtahai .. anyways here this ad shows ur only promoting .. u can claim how many % of ur mentorship prog successful .. then twitter etc will ask for data and they will judge u .. baki even on tv panelists every1 knows their accuracy is more than 89% wrong which is why this data is 89% on loosing side

[@drchoudhary687]

Sir aap in 11% professional profitable traders ki qualities pe ek video bana doge to bahut help ho jaegi boss

[@RohitKumarMeena869]

Success rate in FNO trading is 10%... success rate in government competitive exam is less than 0.5%

[@thomasshelby2506]

That 10% has folks with experience of more than 5 years minimum. But in competitive exams it's a fair fight

[@lokesh9322]

10% are option sellers. You need minimum 5 lacks for profitable option selling trades. With risk management you can easily earn 1% profit every week.

[@ordinaryplayer0729]

11% profitable ka average profit 3400 rupee h bhai

[@BASUNDHARA2016]

Per government job ke liye koi VIKHARI nhi hota hai

[@Skumarr1798]

When I started learning about market all guys used to say only 5% retailers make money in the market 95% loose. So I think KZbin helps more 5% traders 😄

[@BENGALBULLS59]

Wrong 6 % logo na 2022 profit banaya hai . Mai na report padi hai

[@scienceoftrading18]

scientifically made report by SEBI....a much needed initiative to introspect ourselves .....and scientifically explained with trading philosophy by you senior......😀 will tell you one thing....I am among those 11% with a lot of hard work and discipline. I have to maintain same mindset always without fear, greed and biasness......toughest job of life is maintaining easy and calm mindset

[@greeksanalysis5637]

Usse bhi zyada log courses and software me paise barbad karte h but thank you for providing such a valuable content in face to face series ☺️

[@susilreddy6928]

Your concern towards losing traders is highly appreciable....Thank You..

[@jackdammon4320]

Really enlightening report. Thanks for the summary Sir. I hope people will avoid FNO. I hope the regulator takes more interest in safeguarding retailers.

[@CrossHair001]

Bhai chup Beth na 😂 i am in 0.001% if PPL will loose then only we will earn na

[@jayeshvachhani487]

सर आपके द्वारा बहुत बढ़िया सीखने को मिलता है आपसे हर बार नई नई बातें जानने को मिलती है आप एक श्रेष्ठ टीचर हे मैं भी आप ही की तरह एक फिर बनना चाहता हूं लेकिन काम की व्यस्तता में सीखने का समय ही नहीं मिलता आपका बहुत-बहुत धन्यवाद

[@ashimboruah8699]

He is the most genuine and most humble person in this community ❤

[@vilaspatil5116]

God bless 🙏you sir... Aapke face 2 face series se bahot learning mili hai...

[@SanjayVarshney1987]

I am happy ye sun kr ki 89% person fail matlab ki ab log option trading ko samjhne lge hai kuki sir mene ab 95% suna tha kuchh to percentage km hua So sir I am happy ye isi tarah km hota jayega àap jese buddijivi free online learning provide karenge Thanks and regards

[@bulltrader_90]

Dada great insights. You are doing amazing awareness session for the retail traders who are immature and take random trading decisions.

[@sidhantsinghi]

Today, I wish to share a small point regarding the standalone FNO performance report released by SEBI. The analysis is interesting but has absolutely no value if viewed on a standalone basis. Fno segment has to be looked at in conjunction with the cash segment especially now when physical delivery is made compulsory. Fno segment is like an insurance segment where protection can be bought to mitigate loss in underlying asset This can be best explained with the following example. Consider a share trading at 110 . 9 traders( who had bought the stock at an average price of 88 )buy a put option at strike price 100 for Rs.1.5. 1 trader sold all those puts and gained a premium. The stock rallied to 120. The buyers liquidated their holdings at massive profit. Here, WIN-WIN situations got created and every participant won together. However, according to the Sebi report,in this scenario 9 out of 10 traders lost money!!! This is not at all true. The reality is every market participant gained a huge profit.The Sebi report failed to capture this beautiful synergy created by Fno hedges.

[@shegokarakshay3481]

Big Fan and bahot kuch sikha hai apke Videos se sir!!!!!! Ye jo 89% tha usko ham log, 11% profitable business samjhte hai sir, pahle success ratio 1% tha ab 11% which is higher than any gov exam

[@engineerinmedical2183]

I am the person to like and comment on this video, I quit trading and working on my basics and knowledge, thanks for all your valuable video sir

[@onlybanknifty585]

Mean you leave tottaly or learning?

[@engineerinmedical2183]

@@onlybanknifty585 totally lost but will come back

[@onlybanknifty585]

@@engineerinmedical2183 you learn right 🤔

[@onlybanknifty585]

One more positive sign I find this series that 11% traders earn how because they have excellece not of accuracy. 89% loss because of hero zero or hope trading. Only My thoughts just

[@onlybanknifty585]

I blow my account 3 times then practicing 2022 non stop now play with only one lot...

[@devanshparihar2143]

After making loss for 6 months (Jul22-Dec22), Jan23 is my first profit month (fingers crossed as 2 trading days are still left). I think I landed into profit because I became option seller from option buyer. Options are very very very risky but I think option selling is less risky that option buying. I am hoping when SEBI pull this report for 2023 then I will be in those 11% figure but still fingers crossed :)

[@hiteshsuthar5810]

How much capital u using for option selling. I Mean what percentage earning in option selling

[@devanshparihar2143]

@@hiteshsuthar5810 currently using 12-13 lakh and earns between 5K-9K profit daily. This comes around 0.5% return. I am planning to increase my capital more but only after July23 once I earn profit of 0.5% every month till June23.

[@yogeshymg9276]

@@devanshparihar2143 which strategy ur using bro.

[@devanshparihar2143]

@@yogeshymg9276 I am using 4-5 strategies but the most simple one is, sell the strike of (Monday high + 300 points) for Thursday expiry on Nifty. for example Monday high is 18000 so I sell 18300 CE for Thursday expiry.

[@yogeshymg9276]

@@devanshparihar2143 thanks bro i will try this. Currently im doing strangle on expiry day only

[@deepakmore8842]

Relevant content at the very right time. You are very genuine one. What say. May God bless you. 🙌

[@NikhilChachra]

I think SEBI should cover a larger data sample of traders and the 11% will further drop to 5% or so. Most retailers are conceptually weak despite so much free training material that is available. They just want quick money making schemes and fall prey to market predators. That is the reason of this low success rate.

[@nirmal886]

All those you tubers claiming 1cr profit are fake?

[@rameshsuthar7143]

Sir ji option trading ko close kyu nai kerta sebi

[@todaystopic9800]

Chances for govt job is less than 1% 😃 fr bhi ghar walo ko lgta h market me jada Risk h

[@RahulYadav-cp9zp]

Excuse me I'm 18 year old and I'm in market since 2years and I do trading actively

[@Ashwinbhawar]

Sirji Thank you for sharing knowledge. Aap 11% me ho ya 89% me

[@Shubham-ph9du]

Thanks for the honest opinion and highlighting data point in public domain.

[@ishany100]

Thanks sir 🙏🏻you work very hard for retail investors 😊

[@s1mplycomplex936]

And that is why Trading is like a business. What's The Startup Success Rate? As we have seen, 90% of startups fail, which means the startup success rate is around 10%.

[@abhijeetbanerji9735]

What an amazing content!! The way you present your thought and analysis is commendable. I also love the trader talks where so many great strategies are discussed and explained Way to go Vivek Sir

[@rarerabbit28]

11% traders trade on price 89% trade on many things

[@prakashmistry2036]

सर, मेने 2 साल पहले ट्रेडिंग चालू किया था, और 3 बार में स्टार्ट और ड्रॉप कर चुका हु, हर बार मेने ऑप्शन ट्रेडिंग में मेने मुनाफा ही किया है। 1 टाइम में 10 हजार से 70 हजार किया फिर 70 में से 30 हजार गावा दिया। दूसरी बार 7 हजार का 28 हजार किया फिर 28 हजार में से 13 हजार गावा दिया। फिर 1 साल का ड्रॉप हुआ बीमारी के कारण। अब फिर से मार्केट आया हु। इस बार 5 हजार से 11 हजार हुआ फिर 11 में से 3 हजार गावा दिया। अब फिर मेने एक फाइनल ड्रॉप लिया ही मार्केट को समझने के लिए। मेने आपके लर्न 2 ट्रेड से अभी सिख रहा हु। बहुत अच्छी वीडियो ही सर। मुझे 9 टू 6 वाले जॉब से निकल के मार्केट में करियर बनाना है। और फुल टाइम ट्रेडर बनना है।

[@tejasshirule9755]

Investing daddy search karo KZbin pe

[@prakashmistry2036]

@@tejasshirule9755 भाई वाह कोई पढ़ाई नहीं दी जाती, वहा सिर्फ और सिर्फ दिखावा किया जाता है। और मुझे मार्केट को सीखना है। न की उसमे डूब जाना है।

[@tejasshirule9755]

Me pichle ek saal se juda huva hu. Unki theories work Kari h lekin patience chahiye

[@tradetea9432]

I believe it's positive report earlier only 1% wining this game but now it's 11%.

[@tecee1697]

Nope 9 percentage of those are jobber or scallpers who gives out more than 50 percent of profit to gov and brokerage

[@vasudevkutumbakam108]

Thanks kishna for your kindness i am also in the part of 11% last 2.5yr

[@ruchilovelovi]

Again wake up call from a kind true person for us excellent ☀️👌

[@patelnirmala8217]

Thank you sir me abtak loss hi Kiya hai aap video dekhake muje lag rahe ke muje market me bareme pehle sikhaungi

[@goodtime6065]

Thank u so much Vivek for this valuable information

[@puneetjuyal1605]

11 percent success rate is brilliant better then most of the businesses

[@amulpandya]

“During the gold rush its a good time to be in the pick and shovel business” So, those people who are not able to make money in trading, start giving tips, start sub-brokerage business, start KZbin channels, sell trainings.

[@vinodarora8495]

Actually Sir Main culprits r two. One Brokerage and second one STT. even i earned in day it finishes in thease two . The day of loss is always a big one i.e loss and Brokerage STT

[@rkd2526]

You are a selfless teacher for retail investors. God bless you❤

[@msbagale1796]

is video se ek hi sik milti hai sir system ko follow karo frame tayar karke thank you vivek sir maine bhi 2.5 sal mai 5 lac khoya hai ab jake 2 % market pata chala hai is market mai bane rahene ka ek hi tarika hai apna system banana aur use follow karna

[@rss544]

Same m bhi 3 year m 5 lakh gye

[@akbarhussain_798]

Risk hai to ISHQ hai🔥🔥

[@munnajoshi7751]

I'm in 11%..... Hre krishna 🙏

[@bhaudxb]

अगर सेबी और गवर्मेंट अपना टेक्स और फीस निकाल दे तो यही फिगर 11% से 50% पहुंच जाएगा

[@das.abhisek]

India mein 50% ke upar stock market mein log corona ke baad join hua hai Uske baad leverages khatam hone ke baad sab kuch month phele hi sab F&O mein entry kiya hai Ab kuch time tho lagega Sikhne aur earn karne mein

[@raviphm9399]

Vo 11% logon ka equipment news channel aur aap jaise log ho sir ji

[@himendrakumar25]

I am part of TMP program I have done TMP it was amazing experience , I am sure it's best program by elm in India.

[@CH3T4Nb]

90/100 option me hai, agar Esme option hedge wale 5% hoge . Enko nikal de To 95% option buyer hoge pakka loss wale.

[@supriyadevidutta]

Why SEBI is bothering about investors losses, it is their responsibility to learn. Example you can ruin your life misusing social media, do Govt control social media ? SEBI should be a regulator aligning to global standards , don’t try to be our grand father

[@Shoolpani]

Beautifully explained, I like your videos as you are honest in approach and also you do understand the pains of others. God bless!!

[@priyanshupatel1959]

The last line of this video was great and true.

[@abhishelke123]

89%??? not even 1 % f&o traders are actually profitable, I haven't met a single trader who boast about profitability and ready to show even monthly ROI.

[@prashantgurav4911]

Dear Abhijeet...it is not like that nobody makes profit...i know a person(he is not youtuber or influencer) who is profitable on 15 days out of 22 days and i can vouch for it as i have seen his pnl. What is imp that nobody can earn humongous amount of money every day. If u keep low targets and not become greedy then u can also turn profitable.

[@abhishelke123]

@@prashantgurav4911 See that's my point, it was not even you, some friend of yours

[@prashantgurav4911]

@@abhishelke123 i replied to the point that nobody is ready to show PNL....u need to find ur trading buddy dear friend....i have found mine....and have started trading for last 3 months but whereas this friend of mine he does it full time for past 3 years. It is great experience if u trade in group or with some experienced partner.

[@greeksanalysis5637]

Sir please add one thing only youtubers are responsible for these losses kadwa h but sahi h

[@TechnologyWala]

One Word Eye Opening

[@gauravlath19]

Prop traders all over India are much more than 50k-1lakh. There could be around anywhere btw 10-15 lakh Prop traders all over India. Kolkata alone which is a huge hub of Prop traders might be having more than 50k Prop traders. Mumbai ofcourse, Ahmedabad, Alang (another Prop trading hub in Gujarat), Rajkot etc. Now thanks to availability of Leased lines & High-speed Broadband even in Tier 1,2 cities Prop trading has also become viable for the past 7-8 years. Indore/Bhopal, Agra as many know also emerged as new trading hubs though many scam trading & scam Trading calls operating from these cities as we know have created havoc.

[@bhaktikulkarni2005]

Thank U for sharing this document with Us... otherwise it would have gone un-noticed for sure !!

[@BalvinderSingh-ne5hv]

Wealth is not getting destroyed, it's just changing hands..

[@hemantpatilpune6460]

Great analysis by a genuine and experienced person 🙏👌👌👌

[@shaktikushwaha2419]

Super se v uppar wala advise.

[@shivammani3432]

Sir prop wale aisi kon si holy grail jante hain jisse unhe loss nhi hota hai. Please make a video on this topic.

[@akashbharti4104]

Waise Vivek sir 10 se 11% pe aa gaye ... Profit krne wale still it very low

[@jaydayalupadhayay8721]

सर डर नहीं है हकीकत है धन्यवाद सर इसमें इसमें सर खुद को सेट कब मान सकते हैं

[@sam2303]

vivek sir🙏 wonderful. please post more statistical data frim nse and rbi related to markets. your mba education willl be very helpful 🙏🙏. stay safe n take care 👍👍

[@Nifty1976]

In weekly option buying theta or rent paid is major source of loss apart from transaction costs.On an average for one lot nifty weekly option theta cost Rs300 to Rs 600 per day. So if you are having position in weekly option buying even 150 days a year. Then you are paying just at least Rs 45k per year as rent apart from the transaction costs. Can u run a shop profitably with a capital of 2 lakhs where you pay at least 50k as rent per year?

[@herrysingh8224]

We used to listend that only 5% traders make money so the report is positive because the number increases to 11%. Probability increases……….

[@archergrc5362]

Thank you sir for explaining report and also sharing your views.

[@ProvidingPlanet]

God bless you sir for helping us to become sensible trader and learn and stand individually in the market right way and successful way 🙏🏼

[@chetanhegde6319]

Instead of regulating retail traders, SEBI should focus on regulating brokerage charges for option trading. They are essentially extorting money from retail traders. For instance, when a small trader with limited capital engages in hedged trading, the cost can be as high as 100 rupees per trade. This cost could potentially constitute more than 25% of the overall profit or loss of the trade, even for the smallest trades. Moreover, option trading should be restricted to high net worth traders.

[@FIN-BUSS]

Put buy karlu Monday ko??

[@dhrubajdas]

People has moved to Options since Margins in Cash has been drastically reduced.

[@inayatkarediya2985]

🔥 *OVOBEL FOOD LTD 🐣🐓🐓🐓 (FMCG)* 💥 *Promoters holding 69.25* *Public holding 30.75* *Equity 10500000* *Book value 33* *Price 270* *Face value 10* *Eps 18.70 💥 (Last three months Eps 11.68)* 💥 *Ceps 19.49* *PE 14.84* *PB 5.12* *ROE 56.72*

[@tecee1697]

F and o is designed to protect your portfolio from volatility and not for gambling

[@shubhambhusare6865]

They have said that top 5% of profit makers ( around 0.55% of total) account for 75% of all profits, that comes to around 22lakh/individual . They have not given this directly you have to reverse calculate it😉

[@basantahlawat5499]

And top 1% comes 76 lac per individual. I wonder what 0.1% would be

[@rajnish007]

Paisa Risk Management se Banta hai... Strategies aur Set up ek Process hai.. Control your Risk..

[@yogeshshinde2111]

Thanks vivek sir for analyzing report which is eye opener of enthusiastic traders those regularly burning there capital with very short knowledge of market and these trader wants to become wealthy in a very small period .So it's only in favour of broker's so we have to think 100 times before trading without deep knowledge of market and without discipline

[@ujjwalsamanta0101]

Sir , u r amazing. I thik exchange do the stoploss was mandatory for any single trade then retailer has alive for long survive.

[@Sonusingh22445]

This video so motivated me to continue the trading journey

[@ayra4873]

For active traders ( numbers in crores) 44748(loss)- 7557(profit)-12529(tc)(28%)= 24662 Where is this 24662 crore gone?

[@rahulkarmakar1643]

Institutions ke pas

[@ayra4873]

@@rahulkarmakar1643 1 why they not mentioned here 2. Means 55% money of retailers goes to institutions 3. 28% to brokers 4. Only 16% returned to retailers 5. Can you give me one of the name of such institution who earn from trading.

[@sonu77552]

30% govt

[@snagare7878]

Excellent coverage on reality 👍

[@MarketsLive]

I’m in the 11% but I’m trading in multiple asset class , including equity, real estate , metals, and currency. There are many more asset classes, but for now this only … profit is quite more than that avg shown 😅

[@udayrane8088]

thanks for sharing your genuine and real picture of trading

[@santudastrader6613]

mujhe malum tha 5% only winner but aj pata chala 11% winner ,,...wow ..double motivate ho gaya

[@ramji_ki_katha]

Credit of this loss goes to Telegram Channels providing tips in daily option trading and they are charging too per month. Also the people trading Beginners particularly are trading without any setup.

[@prathapnomula]

Why SEBI not reported on Adani 😁😁😁😁🙏🥺😀😄😄😄😀🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@anuragrawat5172]

thank you for video. please make a detail video on what are the major reasons for failure of most people.

[@Jk-po8gj]

Thank u sir for giving motivation👍👍👍

[@akshaytank4149]

what a information, chalo koi to hai jo ye bate bta rha he.

[@rakeshroshan3236]

Voice is not clear Sir in your videos, plz chk mic🙏

[@mihircoins]

Simply clear cut message.

[@rupeshtated8657]

i will be in 11 percent soon......and i prey for all will b in 11 percent......

[@nirmal886]

How can all be in 11 %?

[@IndicThoughts8]

Out of 89% 85% Male are lessers. 🤝👍

[@raze867]

if everyone comes to 11% club, then wait for another destruction to happen. People should stop educating and saving the retailers, market works because of retailers losses. Retailers are meant to do losses. If one wants to be profitable, then he/she has to walk this journey alone. Don't expect anyone to help you because the real daddy of the markets don't want retailers to become smart. Truth is 90% has to loss, so that 10% can make money, in those 10% - 5-8% are daddy who control the markets - operator, institution, prop firm. 1-2% are just small retailers who managed to survive this matrix. Trading is psychological trap, the more people will fall for this, more liquidity, more profit for daddy. And remember SEBI don't care of retailer's losses. SEBI is just a babydoll for daddies of the markets.

[@Mr.Ghibli777]

Weekly expiry ho ya monthly Trade lene pe loss toh utna hi hoga sir

[@vividlearner7427]

Hi sir, could you pls explain where did the remaining 35k crore go? I beg to differ that 91% of retail investors are that stupid, new traders are educated youth they are following the trading setup principles and indicators and yet they fail? I have personally witnessed stock prices taking very random turns which are hard to explain logically.. So, how come prop traders as you mentioned have that edge! 35k profit out of total 44k loss made is about 80% of the money in hands of non retail investors using the same indicators and chart setup that many retail investors follow. Could we have some data as to what percentage of money invested in fno was from retail Indian investors and how much of it was from prop traders?

[@chinnaswamyj622]

After covid we are all 89% trying to learn trading sir

[@adityasharma9162]

Your company is a pro desk company?

[@yourssanjeev2007]

FnO is a zero sum game, if the majority will lose then only we can make good profit

[@SantoshKumari-vs2jf]

Thanks Vivekji. One que: who are prop traders

[@prasannapandit8091]

Very true sir.

[@tyaggh]

And what about those youtubers who are making lacks of rs in single trade on KZbin. I guess they are the main reason now people are thinking making money in stock market is so easy.all are fake using graphic designing to show fake profit and selling there courses to the people.

[@enggraghu]

Profit data is for 3 year or per year?

[@ganeshmalavath9830]

Margin hatake sebhi kudh loss percentage badayaaa