Why Do Bad Players Think They're Good?

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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:12 Tapin.gg
1:13 Being the best in your friend group
2:12 EVERYONE has good mechanics
3:29 Embarrassed to get criticism
5:56 I would've been the best IF
6:58 Bad players remember their successes, good players remember their failures
8:24 Working hard does not equal skill
10:24 WAY too much positive feedback

[@marrentm]

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[@Dimo-exe]

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[@cheese_2_drippy]

can you coach me because i dont have any money to be spending on the app

[@VileRuins]

Bro its a GAME a free game most people dont wanna pay money on a game its not serious most people play fortnite for fun i would much rather train everything than training on singular things i would watch my replays myself even though it might be hard i would be serious and just see my mistakes and get better at it

[@Dimo-exe]

@@VileRuins you're like 7

[@wildancooldude123]

@@Dimo-exebro imagine getting a coach for games like go outside or play a sport 💀

[@TheSignofJonah777]

From here on out we call marren the "fortnite doctor" because he always humbles our expectations and diagnoses us with skill issue. (respectfully)

[@zan9496]

genuinely not glazing, marren and zykomma and a few others have honestly started to change my perception on competitive concepts and mentality for a greater benefit.

[@eileen4873]

@@zan9496Zykoma’s a really good coach

[@tugsbilegsaikhan2431]

Honestly I’m ok with knowing I’m bad as hell

[@TheSignofJonah777]

@@tugsbilegsaikhan2431 fr I'm there with ya

[@Jordanthecool7]

Another issue is that many players get overly high ratings by people who either never played competitively, or don’t understand the game. So many casuals don’t understand the true difference between good and bad, so when they see someone doing even basic builds and piece control, they will rate them as much higher level at the game then they actually are.

[@FiToFN]

Watching your videos I've implemented all of the tips you give, I went from top 7k, 5k to now placing top 146th in a solo cash cup and other top 500 cash cup placements, you definitely know what you're saying :D

[@Frame2]

8:26 is so true, I have so many friends with up to 2000 hours, who hasn’t been improving since 2018 because they only play for fun, which I respect. It just shows that you really need to put in the work for improvement, I think creators like muselk and lazarbeam also falls in this category- drit bra video foresten, topp kvalitet 💪🏼

[@yvindeggeb2888]

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[@JuanplaysWH]

@marrentm these really helped, i myself dont have that of a beast pc or good ping, but i am still playing really well, i may have lag or FPS drops but i still play and look at my mistakes, i think i learned so far is, You dont need the BEST gear to become a pro, again thanks a lot for these videos.

[@RaduNerd]

This is really helpful for me, as I used to be REALLY good at creative, I quit 3~ years ago and started playing again recently. Now I'm trying to get past my bad habits from back then, the switch from thousands of hours on creative to js playing ranked is insane. I can beat unreals in 1v1s pg but I lose to diamonds in game

[@RIOTStyx]

I started in early chapter 4 and since OG season I've been tied with a real OG for best in my friend group. This proves that I'm a pretty fast learner but I think the reason that I advanced this fast is because I never got cocky and always knew that I could improve on so many things. I'm still looking for anything I can improve on. This guy's explanation of how to get good is spot on. Thanks!

[@immortily1673]

imagine not being og lmaoooo

[@RIOTStyx]

@@immortily1673 I was but I didn’t play enough to be considered a real player 😭

[@SUKUNA-E1DITING]

Me to but my og friend is the same skill level as me I really need someone in my friend group that is way better than me

[@E34Jimmy]

@@immortily1673 this is basically you admitting anyone lesser than you is worse 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@jacksonthompson6831]

Awesome video as always man, thanks! I’d love to see a video about how you could change your playstyle if you have good aim

[@mj_thorns]

Marren, u are doing so good content rn. maybe not that often but the videos are so good. Really keep up the good work.

[@Teeqz_24]

Thank you i'll definently try the tips later, also do you have any landspots where to land right now?

[@Offaj]

amazing video, i would love to see one about all the different skillsets and how to capitalize off them

[@CXTGod_Shinobi]

Thanks for another amazing video! Also I hate it when people think they are very good but they are not.

[@marrentm]

It's quite annoying... and so many people think so, haha. I feel like it's super important to be realistic if you wanna improve fast

[@yozah4830]

@@marrentmdo you have a valorant channel

[@rocksteadyjk9657]

First off, amazing work love the video. Secondly, keep in mind that this concept is taught not just for Fortnite but for literally anything that is technical. Example, someone who plays piano needs to focus on their weakness' and the same goes for a calligraphist. Its so valuable and makes life like a walk in the park as long as you are discipline in the process

[@TrentonLane-yv8gz]

i appreciated brodie i needed this tired of being average

[@Sariafn]

Is there any way you could make a video on unique playstyles/skills? That might be really helpful for players to discover opportunities that they are good at that they don't even know.

[@n30n_gamer77]

I used to have this same mindset playing as a kid back in 2017, I was really good at building cuz I practiced in save the world but from that I got ego and never really improved that much after that, wish I had a video like this back then

[@VecPrime]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who used to practice in stw😭 I used to use the husk / disk spinner thingy as a aim trainer

[@0xcpp912]

@@VecPrime haha thats what its for

[@TheSignofJonah777]

All the lil bro's got humbled today but I'm glad marren uploaded.

[@Kameron_]

what are your colourblind settings on the everyone has good mechanics bit?

[@Caplen-Subscribe]

Thank you so much for telling me I'm starting to watch my replays and write down my mistakes and then I'm gonna practice them you video helped me

[@polishpartygoer4982]

I feel like another reason why so many bad players think they’re good is because of how easy it is to go up the ranks

[@Terra_deander]

I notice it on players I Trained (not pro players just friends who got rather good at the game) when I 1vs1 them normally I will while fighting them point out mistakes, slip ups or anything that is just a dumb play. The friends I Played with took it good and improved on their weaknesses but most of the time when a random guy asks me to coach him a bit and I start listing his mistakes while fighting him most of them get either annoyed or get aggressive as if I'm just berating them even if I give them tips to counteract those mistakes they do in fighting

[@palerideryt1206]

What routine would you recommend if I wanted to become a better fighter?

[@Yoxyroz]

Lets go bro another w marrentm always tryna help us

[@marrentm]

my man

[@zen_axel]

To be honest i do need a better setup to be good my laptop crashes in battle royale ranked and zonewars any tips

[@Albert-rp6kt]

thanks for the tips

[@rocji2552]

preciate that borther ill keep the grind. love the upload feed you got going on. keep on brutha

[@mjwts]

i’m still on 60 fps saving up for a monitor soon & i’ve learned so much jus from using my brain and not excuses like “i’m only on 60 fps” in champion rn thanks always for your tips

[@miakhilhamza1873]

Thanks you for the tips

[@THESYRUPKIDD1]

No bad players who think they're good here, just a bunch of bad players who know they're bad.

[@PWRJoshua]

Having confidence is so important. If you’re scared of just playing arena, you shouldn’t be. Losing is natural and it happens to everyone. If you aren’t in the solo victory cup, you should basically be keying everyone because it’s good practice and as long as you learned something if you die, you’ve gained. And you are gonna die SO much more often if you don’t key like you are better then whoever you’re fighting which is why the best keyers have the biggest egos. (Think Peterbot, Vico, even Jeff)

[@yungnuggie3744]

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[@po1kx]

This advice is helping me get better. Losing is a part of the process and even the best players will lose at one point. It's about practicing and putting in the work that lets you get better.

[@RIOTStyx]

this is how i got highest rank in my friend group this is spot on

[@VecPrime]

Bushcampdad didn't help with that tbh he made campers even worse

[@fengshuimma9160]

Getting clapped is my method of improvement. I rewatch tape, or I play customs vs better players. White belt mentality. I’m still bad but the progress is visible. Don’t get pissed, it’s an opportunity.

[@VecPrime]

Bro💀 those first few words are just so wrong “ getting clapped” “I rewatch tapes”

[@slaydog5102]

​@@VecPrimehow young are you?

[@Rolkey]

@@slaydog5102idk man referring to losing as “getting clapped” is pretty immature..

[@saulnava5762]

Can you make a video on fighting with confidence thats something i genuinely sttuggle with and i choke many fights

[@Rezerv123]

Can u make a video or do you have tips i feel like im not getting any better i practice pgs bf and zw and key rankled every day i just feel like im not improving at all

[@turtles1x]

Hey merren i was gonna ask what do i do when the reason i die is because of me being nervouse in fights ive been playing for like 4years and i still get nervous in fights in solo ccs and it makes me die in fights?

[@pandaxx2932]

I jokingly say i'm the best at the game and stuff like that but that's just when playing with friends who aren't very good, when I practice or am playing with people better than me I know when to turn the fake jokey ego off to get better. Great video!

[@Droeffoe]

How do i get the resourses in the top left cornor.

[@Ghastify]

How do u stop tensing arm when nervous

[@loganmbl]

you are just the best tips creater

[@nuhamohamed3105]

I always try to not take 50/50s but I just do it subconsciously because I‘m confident about my Aim what can I do to fix it? There‘s also one more thing I always have max mats but I seem not to use it because I always go 50/50 by pushing the players (I know it‘s dumb I think I‘m a creative warrior) I wanna fix that as well

[@pokiirat]

whats the black skin u were using at the behhining fo the video i keep seeing ti so much

[@AliAbzdh]

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[@Boogie_man5000]

I love this guy hes so helpful I’ve actually improved all my skills and now I’ve made some earnings thank you so much please keep up the work and posting vids❤😁🤗

[@FlamingWraith47]

This was very helpful my only problem is I get bored doing this type of practice and I want video games to be fun.

[@Orioneuu]

But do you think 240fps 1440p or 360fps 1080p is better for competitive?

[@ozeneu_uvi]

I am literally playing on 250 ping most of the time during the day, and at nights i can play to 20-50 ping. When i play on 250 ping its literally annoying because you cant do anything anymore since the whole game glitches or sometimes you cant even move or shoot. I'm hoping next month to get better internet but thats it.

[@SweatNova]

Marrentm what advice can you give me for someone on 0-105 ping sometimes it’s 0 and I’m also on 60hz and 60fps,and a broken controller,some buttons don’t work so I switched the binds and abt the controller I’m getting a ps5 soon and also I have good aim and good piece control excellent 🎉builder but bad at Editing and mid awareness with good timing and I do not know how to make a pre planned strategy.

[@deathtrap2196]

Another w from marrentm💯💯

[@marrentm]

holy you are early! appreciate u deathtrap

[@wityx4360]

the reason i die very often is actually that something didn't react and some walls or cones never place in and some shots never come out even after the deley is gone

[@TheSignofJonah777]

The trick you did at 2:00 is next level... Jivan just learned how to do it.

[@arcashark389]

What did he do?

[@JaniEU]

maybe because kiduoo has 50k pr

[@TheSignofJonah777]

rotated the stair to block the peanut butter peek@@arcashark389

[@Musashi337]

When I was bad at the game I said that I was bad. When I got good, or atleast decent, I still said I am bad. Even at games I am good at (I am bad at fortnite) I usually just say I am bad. It's not a good way to think, but it stopped me from taking games too serious, I used to think I was the shit last year when I played fortnite, and whenever I lost, I got so unbelievably mad that I was having emotional breakdowns from losing, lasing out at my friends crying over a video game. Now I don't even feel happy when I win. I don't get mad like I did back then, but at the same time I don't feel as happy either.

[@damondmc1558]

what is your graphic setting tell me plz i would love to do same as you

[@ytconstruct]

6:15, I used to be placing in like top 10k in tourneys on my old xbox one but now i'm usually top 5-6k since I got a better console

[@yospixy]

A good way to implement quality over quanity is to start getting busy in your life. If all you do is play 8 hours a day you should start exercising, or working on a business and more. This will give you more discipline and will allow you to transfer these mental skills into fortnite competitive.

[@Isaacalvarez_2]

How many hz does your monitor run?

[@Geektech23]

I need help, ive been playing controller for 2 years on fortnite and ive reached a skill cap, my aim is really good but my mechas suck ive tried everything can you help me, and should i switch to kbm

[@SuperJG]

Really good video ❤

[@zckarz]

i suck alot and my friend keeps bringing me down saying im the worst in the friend group your vids help me since i am getting better

[@AYO_TFSideswipe]

So many of my friends play everyday grinding Ranked and reaching up to Elite (which is average) when they're not even above average. They are not improving by doing this. My actual good Fortnite friend barely plays Ranked and plays Battle Royale because he said "I'm not ready for Ranked". The good ones don't have high ego

[@Trilix1x]

a way i can tell if someone is bad is if they sit in zw 12 hours a day just to go double back height sit atleast 5 layers above u and spray u till ur out of matts. like bro i do a zw to warm up and these kids take it like its world cup. i run at them to improve my fighting and i wind up just chasing them to max height

[@moveli3906]

If i play 2vs1 maps will i get better with my aim and mechanics in one gamemode? i mean like one bullet 2 rabbits

[@Flixy911]

Hey marrentm!! Thanks for another banger

[@marrentm]

Hey Noxy! Appreciate you a lot brother

[@Flixy911]

@@marrentm oh yeah!!

[@thehook9099]

Hey, what should I do if I’m playing on 30 fps or lower, I really struggle and I can’t get a better console or pc for a while, I’m just getting worse it feels like and I try to improve and do as much as I can to get better but I just can’t.

[@Taxman123]

If ur not kid u could save for a cheap Xbox like on fb market

[@Icyfnbrtt]

Your videos are so good❤😊

[@archeus114]

I play with 60hz at 90/100 fps on a laptop and a lot of time during end game i start go down with fps like 60fps and i have like a lot of delay to place build and about my keyboard (it's the laptop keyboard) it sometimes stop working and I am like afk. Do you think i should buy a pc and a keyboard?

[@SoundHelper-zp1yd]

Yeah buy a pc and if you only have an 60 hz Monitor than play on only 60 fps

[@archeus114]

@@SoundHelper-zp1yd Ok thanks

[@op_playerrrr]

Bro my whole squad is in unreal this and last season and I’m like 2nd so idk what to improve

[@voltzfnbr]

but how do i know what weaknesses i have? how am i supposed to do my own playstyle if i dont even know what im bad or good at? Marren please reply and tell me how to find out what my weaknesses and strenghts are so i can do my own playstyle!!!

[@martonattilakiss6013]

I just wanna ask that what is the most effective way to fight players with better ping than you??

[@cxngo8124]

The worst one is when someone gives them a tip and they respond saying "You're worse than me, I don't take tips from bad players"

[@LegendPlays.]

I feel like 1v1s is a massive way too improve & too look at what uu do & see the weaknesses that uu need to work on. Recently, been trying/thinking off getting better for awareness wise & I feel like it helps, been thinking/looking at w things that gets me killed & try too avoid doing that in the next fights that I take. The mind is something you really don’t want too go too waste, putting it too great use it’s very helpfull. I’m not the greatest player as I still need too work on mainly high ground retakes & better awareness but I do aim too become a pro one day.❤️ Thank Youu for this video!

[@LegendPlays.]

@@RD_Forex Not really, most times I know what I’m doing, I just need to work more on my awareness.

[@nuhamohamed3105]

@@LegendPlays.Play martoz turtle box fight it helped me a lot and I defenitly saw improvement after 2-3 days

[@modernsxm7172]

You arent going to be using highground retakes in pubs because thats a waste of mats but if you only play creative then yeah i guess

[@rinnnnnnn.]

wrong build fights are common in game@@modernsxm7172

[@toxicw3989]

ok but what do i do if i have 3fps on lowest setting + tweaks

[@Si1entfn]

I play on a ps4 and 80 ping should I just quit

[@TreeTop73]

I am probably a middle grounds player, I know I can improve, but no matter how much I practice or look at my games, I feel halted, Ill try to take the tips from this video and put it into a document where every day I'll grind for 2-3 hours a day and take rest's every other weekend to prevent burnout

[@Papalbug]

I’m not good at Fortnite because I play bot lobbies with my friends and we are laughing and having legendary conversations the entire night

[@TR-Bolt]

I stopped playing tournaments because I'm playing on 160-180 ping. I always did get a very good placing, but it isn't enough to quil.

[@krisskross9994]

No but realistically, I could probably quad edit and piece anyone if I was playing 1080p 60fps and not 620p 20fps, and I'm sure my aim would be drastically better, and I'd probably be able to see, and it would probably be far more enjoyable if I didn't have 90 ping. I think I could probably get away with blaming my dell Optiplex 790 as the reason I'm not the greatest Fortnite player of all time. A small hardware upgrades would be nice to say the least.

[@no1akolibedfan]

this motivated me to play fn more

[@1xastroo]

How can you find your strengths

[@Mr.SHS_fn]

5:05 Hi Marren! My laptop doesn’t got that much of storage so recording for me could make my laptop can run slower if I do it for long periods of time. But should i then instead try streaming on twitch?

[@fhenja]

I can't improve on this game anymore. If i had the genetics to get consistent button presses and having good switch mode selection momentum

[@MinibobRl]

I get what your saying about complaining about if I had this or that but I really can’t do anything in a fight when my game freezes and drops to 15 fps cause I’m on switch but I am saving for a pc

[@WhatASaaaaaaave]

Me personally i love getting tips on how to play

[@Hxhsjwjdocys]

I’m starting to loose motivation, I’m also noticing I’m tilting a lot more even at small things like messing up an edit in creative will completely ruin my mental image contemplating completely quitting playing video games. Maybe I just need a break for a while but I tried that, came back worse obviously then get ultra tilted then play bad every day

[@tucann7]

One of my issues is the lack of friends who take the game seriously, none of my friends care about competitive.

[@bobbobityboo]

do you have any tjps for finding a new friend group with good players?

[@beastx4780]

real shi all i know is shitters

[@AkitoOnBT]

People would constantly tell me I’m so good at Fortnite and it would annoy me at times because I truly know how good a lot of these players are. It just goes to show a lot of players haven’t fought good players yet.

[@JamesRelok]

Yeah. Many bad players will glaze anyone who is just slightly better than them.

[@sluka2867]

Is this a reupload? The part in 7:26 is so familiar like I've seen this before.

[@The_Robloxer.]

yk its easy to say it but to actually do it is such a challenge. Ive been playing since the start of the game and still cant manage to get actually good

[@JATDPLUS]

what do i do about 15 fps tho?

[@Apathyfr]

6:10 i totally get that but its hard to accept dying when facing 0 ping players while my lowest ping is 60 lol

[@Taxman123]

Yeah I used have horrible internet and I get u but it gets better if you start to play more passive but it's still sucked lol

[@Omega_FN]

another banger.

[@user-pt1be5zx8i]

Marren, could you do a video of the young prodigies of future fortnite or semi young? (like Moneymaker, Peterbot, etc.) Pls

[@dezznuts-jw8ke]

but i have a question so if your saying u want to be around better players a lot but then won't the good player soposed to play with better players so then huh

[@GuiltyGlock]

This is my second season playing ranked, I started playing Fortnite when OG season started I hit Elite then, now were in Chapter 5 season 1, I've put a lot of work into my edit and building skills, also switched from roller to MnK, I'm still Elite rank, but I'm stuck at 50% and have never gone above that percentage, I need to clarify that I play trios, one buddy is like me, he builds and edits, the other, doesn't care to build, let alone use any strategy, we've carried him to D3. I know some are gonna say he's the issue, but even if I duo or play solo I still can't get above 50%, I try everything, from piece control maps, to realistic 1v1 2v2, but I feel like something is missing. I've been solid at any competitive game I've played, csgo i was semi-pro and maintained Global Elite, Apex Legends I've always hit Masters or Predator, CoD Crimson or Iridescent, but Fortnite I can't get out of Elite, I feel like I deserve to hit Champion, but maybe not, I mean its only my second rankled Fortnite season since I left the game in season 5 when there wasn't even ranked, let alone chapters. Does anyone have any tips they can give me, and I mean nay tips, there are probably methods and skills that I haven't even thought about to improve on, anyways thanks if you read this fully.

[@JaniEU]

I havent watched the video yet but sometimes I feel like im the best in the world but then I go to play like 1v1s and some 10k pr person humbles me 💀I keep going in this loop like twice a year

[@user-wq9qh6yi3g]

Startds kbm in july 2023 and pkayed my first solo cup in chapter 4 s4 and qualified but now its alot harder to qual but ive gotten ever better placements my best place ment is 1400 in the solo victory cup

[@tankedeleche9448]

me viewing my self to improve be like: missed an edit(mechanics) did the edit but missed the shot and got counter pumped(aim) then got snipped from the back(awareness). LMAO

[@NagisPancakes]

For reference i have a 60 hertz monitor a membrane keyboard crusty mousepad no desk space i play on speakers and my laptop has an i3 10100f with 1gb integrated graphics. If anyone can say its the gears fault its me. I cant really improve if my screen freezes every single time someone walks into my screen or I start running.

[@user-mv8pg2pm9v]

me too, its rough

[@zakvr1]

I have 60hz and 60fps and have $200 in earnings so its not always about having the best parts its about the player and the mindset.

[@themumpkeys5259]

Sometimes actually do die because of my ping though like one time in box fights where I had 700 ping.

[@ramenguy2391]

Guys am i considered good or bad i have 7k pr not bad placements 1 Fncs finals and some semi finals i don't have earnings but i did qualed for duo cc 2 times last season