Why Do Gorillas Sell Comic Books?

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@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 2 жыл бұрын
I showed several old comics to the kids I used to work with. It was part of a comic creation class. The kids saw the chimps, monkeys, and gorillas and said, "Monkey!" Apparently, it works. No other animal attracted so many kids.
@primax5503
@primax5503 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I thought cats and dogs sell more than other animals lmaooo
@damianmonke3922
@damianmonke3922 2 жыл бұрын
Uh oh... MONKE?!
@jonathand.t.5051
@jonathand.t.5051 2 жыл бұрын
MONKE MONKE OOOHHHHHHHHH YES CHIMP OOH OHH In seriousness though monkeys are always good setup for comedic or absurd situations and I dont know why
@isaacargesmith8217
@isaacargesmith8217 2 жыл бұрын
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@TheCow-j1l
@TheCow-j1l 2 жыл бұрын
@@primax5503 I think cat and dog are like, too normal, apes are more unusual
@zulium
@zulium 2 жыл бұрын
"Wonder Woman teaching a gorilla to play baseball" is a sentence that can only exist in comics and I love it.
@nubworthycigars6682
@nubworthycigars6682 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.. this isn’t a comic tho?.. you’re endangering the space time continuum by taking a grade that can only be in comics and reproducing it in a different medium! Jokes aside it is a wondrous format for story telling! Cheers friend!
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 2 жыл бұрын
i bet that if i knew something about baseball there would be a joke i could make here about a real life team, but alas i don't..
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 2 жыл бұрын
And "Marvel doesn't actually have that many gorilla characters" seems like a sentence that can only exist in this show.
@dylanmahaffey8920
@dylanmahaffey8920 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, I could see this happening in the next Wonder Woman movie.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 2 жыл бұрын
Where is THIS baseball movie????
@DS-pe2zc
@DS-pe2zc 2 жыл бұрын
“Crisis on Infinite Earths” only sold because Solovar the sapient gorilla guest starred. Without Solovar, all the subsequent Crisis knockoffs were bombs. Just sayin’.
@gezeo750
@gezeo750 2 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense!
@gezin82
@gezin82 2 жыл бұрын
Gorillas are racist tropes, like King Kong stealing a white woman to have his way with her, per Hollywood. Like tropes of savage blacks in concrete jungle playing knockout game for sport, hunting nieve innocent whites and killing them with one punch 👊 Comics are just a different media pushing same stereotypes. The thumbnail says it all.
@PepeCoinMania
@PepeCoinMania 4 ай бұрын
😂
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings 2 жыл бұрын
"Titano tries to shave Jimmy Olsen with a helicopter." - DC Comics, ca. Silver Age
@nilus2k
@nilus2k 2 жыл бұрын
I love how crazy Grant Morrison got with Doom Patrol. It was also highly transgressive to the norms of the early 90s in an amazing way. Because the fact that a brain in a jar and a French speaking intelligent Gorilla were gay was the least “taboo”(again by early 90s comic book standards) part of their relationship.
@4-a-e
@4-a-e 2 жыл бұрын
According to Morrison everything with the lodestone, alien inter-galatic planetary war and the giant Zardos heads was written on drugs. Empire of chairs might be one of the best endings to a series in anything ever.
@exceedcharge1
@exceedcharge1 8 ай бұрын
I loved them in my adventures with superman
@LSZambie
@LSZambie 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the Giganta thing makes a lot of things click for me. Like how in the Justice League cartoon, Giganta had a thing for Grodd. Always found that odd but now it actually makes a bit of sense
@pious83
@pious83 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce Timm did love to throw in little subtle nods to the comics.
@RednekGamurz
@RednekGamurz 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot which episode it is, but they do explain that Grodd was the one who changed her to be human in that continuity.
@ViktorKruger99
@ViktorKruger99 2 жыл бұрын
@@RednekGamurz it's from justice league unlimited season 3 grodd tries to convince clayface to join the legion of doom and points out he can cure him because he transformed giganta from a gorilla to a regular human being
@gedeonnunes5626
@gedeonnunes5626 2 жыл бұрын
@@ViktorKruger99 you sure about that? I think it's before Unlimited, when she is first introduced in the two-parter where the League breaks appart. One of the male characters (maybe Shade?) hits on her or something, then Grodd either implies or straight up tells that she was a former gorilla
@theajshow
@theajshow 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, I can never unsee that now.
@andrewanastasovski1609
@andrewanastasovski1609 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you all the gorilla encounters I've had in my life. The worst are the ones who think they're people, but are actually just super-intelligent gorillas.
@DocReasonable
@DocReasonable 2 жыл бұрын
'Why Do Gorillas Sell Comic Books?' That's a heckuva way to talk about my LCS owner, but I can't disagree.
@hamzadawud
@hamzadawud 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno how I never noticed that this was a common thing, but good call, Chris. You could do a video on the trope of disembodied brains in comics too, there are so many instances of it.
@danmccoy82
@danmccoy82 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@pious83
@pious83 2 жыл бұрын
Only in comics can you survive as a brain in a jar.
@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight
@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight 2 жыл бұрын
Brainiape hits both these tropes.
@hamzadawud
@hamzadawud 2 жыл бұрын
@@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight Yeah, Chris mentioned him in the video. That's what made me think of it.
@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight
@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamzadawud when? I just watched it a second time and didn’t hear him mention Brainiape. He mentioned the trope of brain swap in ape stories. That’s all I saw.
@El_Keck
@El_Keck 2 жыл бұрын
At last, the return of the famed Gorilla Mask. That's what I call a Throwback.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 2 жыл бұрын
I have a gorilla mask and horse mask for Halloween.
@scottpickering2382
@scottpickering2382 2 жыл бұрын
Six Gun Gorilla is a forgotten public domain Wild West comic where the O’Neil (that’s the gorilla’s name) hunts down the Strawhan gang who shot the prospector who taught him how to use guns and raised him like a son. The Eponymous Ape has been popping up in popularity lately in the indie comics radar.
@lo1bo2
@lo1bo2 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't know, there was a Six Gun Gorilla 2013 6-issue mini from Boom. I bought it as it came out since it seemed so wacky and fun.
@nightmarehound
@nightmarehound 2 жыл бұрын
Looking into american comics as a kid, and seeing constantly gorillas, this really boggled me. It still does. Because though my experience is limited, I do not recall many italian/belgian/french/uk/japanese/etc comics where a big point of them would have been that there's an ape (maybe Cromartie High), while it's something that still seems to happen in american comics.
@WeyounSix
@WeyounSix 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit somebody else knows about cromartie high lmaoo
@maspesasmasperras5554
@maspesasmasperras5554 2 жыл бұрын
We love our gorillas
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 2 жыл бұрын
Tarzan was popular and raised by apes in the story how popular was he in Italy, France, Belgium and Japan?
@ginogatash4030
@ginogatash4030 2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrolito he's well known as any other fairy tale and similar characters are, but I don't know if I'd attribute all the gorillas in american comics to Tarzan, tho it's possible that there was maybe a movie adaptation that made everyone insert apes in other media, I dunno.
@medes5597
@medes5597 Жыл бұрын
UK strip "our sheriffs an ape", about an ape called Charlie who was the sheriff of a wild west town. Ran in Valiant and Hotspur. He invented lacrosse at one point. That's all I can think of off hand though.
@Udgrasil13
@Udgrasil13 2 жыл бұрын
I totally get it. Gorillas are awesome XD But my favorite has to be Mike from "Motor Girl" drawn and written by Terry Moore. If you want a comic about a female Veteran, who lives on a junkyard with a talking Gorilla, dealing with Aliens and PTSD, that is funny, clever and heartbreaking (and so beautiful), this is the comic for you. Afterwards, you will love Mike as much as I do. Promise.
@RarebitFiends
@RarebitFiends 2 жыл бұрын
Terry Moore is such a fantastic writer/artist. I can second the Motor Girl recommendation.
@equinox6690
@equinox6690 2 жыл бұрын
@@RarebitFiends I can third it
@joshuablaze9810
@joshuablaze9810 2 жыл бұрын
YES! I searched the comments hoping someone would mention this book. #1 must-read gorilla comic! It is such a good story.
@simonbarnett8668
@simonbarnett8668 2 жыл бұрын
I was a little surprised you didn't mention 'Angel and the Ape' from DC...although to be fair you really did pack a huge amount information into a short amount time, while entertaining at the same time.
@VivisPal
@VivisPal 2 жыл бұрын
I've really missed the "Oh, hi! You caught me..." openings, so it was great to see you pull it back out for this episode!
@julesjay747
@julesjay747 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously I’ve been asking This question for the past 6 years, like I’ve always wondered why there are so many gorilla characters in the comic industry, especially DC
@karabearcomics
@karabearcomics 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, there's also the things like Marvel Apes and JLApes. And of course there's the Golden Age characters, which are mainly one-off enemies, but you occasionally get characters like Six-Gun Gorilla, a protagonist gorilla who carries a revolver.
@richardrosenthal9552
@richardrosenthal9552 2 жыл бұрын
The Congorilla was the best use of a gorilla in a comic with Grodd coming second. They were fun to read about. As a kid fun was what I wanted and these two gorillas gave that.
@PaulSaether
@PaulSaether 5 ай бұрын
Remember how Congo Bill used to change places with that golden gorilla? Whilst Bill was off doing whatever he did in the super strong gorilla's body he would lock his own body (With the gorilla's mind) in a cave so no harm came to Bill's body. But if the gorilla shat itself Bill would have had one heck of a problem when they reverted back, eh?
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 2 жыл бұрын
The Fantastic Four battled the soviet super villain The red ghost with the power to become intangible and can pass through solid objects he had 3 super apes a gorilla with super strength, a orangutan with magnetic powers which can make guns and other metal objects float into the air, and a shape shifting baboon all of which were highly intelligent.
@simonagree4070
@simonagree4070 2 ай бұрын
Ape on!
@brandonmedina4471
@brandonmedina4471 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Julius Schwartz had a strict 1 gorilla cover per month rule. This was a limit not a requirement. Gorilla covers sold so well every DC title would have had one for every issue. Nothing but gorilla covers from DC, except Schwartz didn’t want to kill it with overexposure. Creative teams would beg him to give them the gorilla that month and he would refuse, only allowing it for whichever ever titles turn it was.
@markshulusky6680
@markshulusky6680 2 жыл бұрын
It's like how zombies are popular now. There was a similar gorilla craze in the early days of film: Bela Lugosi and Raymond Burr turned into them, endless movies featured gorillas as the (not much of a) surprise "villain" at the end.
@zakazany1945
@zakazany1945 2 жыл бұрын
Funny that after I remembered Marvel Apes, right after came to mind Marvel Zombies. Gorillas and zombies are both fascinating because they are similar to us, but at the same time it's clearly different, although by very different reasons
@saiberunato
@saiberunato 2 жыл бұрын
"DC went crazy with their gorilla covers." Darn, ya missed the perfect opportunity to say "DC went APE with their gorilla covers." 😆 Cool presentation BTW. Funny how we sometimes don't notice the obvious until it is pointed out to us.
@canislupus3655
@canislupus3655 2 жыл бұрын
He actually did take the shot at 1:43, lmao
@samslash9
@samslash9 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite things in comics history. The idea that gorillas being so prominant that there was a whole movement. Being a reader of DC you get so used to the idea of intellegent gorillas just existing, you forget how absurd it is.
@jimschleich8753
@jimschleich8753 2 жыл бұрын
"It's not rocket surgery!" Chris, I have to say, there's no greater joy than when someone who's creative work you appreciate can surprise you with an unexpected move to an even higher level of entertainment. I would say this line pleased me in a way similar to when Kurt Busiak revealed [SPOILER] that Hank Pym had anguished for years with the shame that he had used his own brain patterns to create Ultron. Well done sir!!
@knyght27
@knyght27 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I love this topic. I've always noticed how gorillas tend to be over-represented in pulp magazines and old comics and movies
@johnathancopson9328
@johnathancopson9328 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say they were going apeshit for Gorillas in the silver age(pelted with tomatoes).
@Butterball503
@Butterball503 2 жыл бұрын
I screamed when you said "It's not rocket surgery," Thought I was the only person who used that phrase. Also, I know it's not comics, but my favorite talking gorilla is King Gorilla from Venture Bros. "They wanted the Surreal Life, KG gave em the surreal life!"
@nickangelo116
@nickangelo116 2 жыл бұрын
I say rocket science or brain surgery.
@jamesduncan6729
@jamesduncan6729 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't scream. You at most passed some air through your nose.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 2 жыл бұрын
Tarzan was popular both in comics and movies and he was raised by an ape. They often had reruns of his movies mostly with Johnny Weissmuller and had a TV series Starring Ron Ely when I was a child.
@kid_eh
@kid_eh 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Nick Cardy fan. He got in on DC's silver and bronze monkey craze big time. Please consider a Cardy spotlight. He is an unsung comics hero. I wish the stories inside lived up to the fantastic covers...
@simonbarnett8668
@simonbarnett8668 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded Chris! Nick Cardy is an oft forgotten great of DC comics!
@genegreigh8913
@genegreigh8913 Жыл бұрын
Rightio! And pay especial attention to Nick's work on the Teen Titan's and most particularly Princess Ponytail!
@MadisonCarter
@MadisonCarter 2 жыл бұрын
There was an issue of DC's series SECRET ORIGINS, issue #40, that handled this trope. The cover for that issue featured a number of apes, dinosaurs, motorcycles, the color purple and a fire in the background - an interior essay discussed how in the "old days" all of these things were stuff editors wanted on covers because it sold better.
@brianshawkey2910
@brianshawkey2910 2 жыл бұрын
Congorilla was my favorite. Congo Bill switched bodies with the big golden gorilla! Great stuff! Thanks for posting!
@ElijahW2003
@ElijahW2003 2 жыл бұрын
...The Brain in a robot body asking Monsieur Mallah to kiss him wasn't something I was mentally prepared for.
@Steve_Vendetta
@Steve_Vendetta 2 жыл бұрын
. . . And of course, in the early 2000s, a small group of DC alumni helped establish *GORILLA COMICS* as a short-lived IMAGE imprint. It oversaw the publication of CRIMSON PLAGUE (George Perez), EMPIRE (Mark Waid & Barry Kitson), SECTION ZERO (Karl Kesel & Tom Grummet), and SHOCKROCKETS (Kurt Busiek & Stuart Immonen). It also demonstrated that you could free the creator from the Densely Congested "gorilla sanctuary," but not the gorilla from the creator's imagination. Or something like that. ;)
@nshaw2311
@nshaw2311 2 жыл бұрын
I always question whether the gorilla thing was a real trend, or just something the higher ups assumed was the common thread that increased sales. Then again, I do immediately watch any comic book video I see that's about gorillas.
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 2 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee mentioned a few times that DC would often copy things Marvel did, like for example if lots of Marvel covers had red backgrounds then all of a sudden DC covers would get red backgrounds, and he would even use this fact to mess with them sometimes. So it seems like Silver Age DC had no idea what they were doing, and none of the sources really suggest that there was more than one gorilla cover comic that sold, it just seems like that experiment with the parrot who gets food at totally random times, and then one time it coincidentally gets food while shaking its head, so now it can't stop shaking its head over and over.
@MrBallofa
@MrBallofa 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of 90s and early 2000s cartoon animators we're inspired by this Gorilla crazy with a lot of characters lol, Mojo Jojo is obvious but i swear there was like a few scenes in spongebob, deksters labs, and many others that feel referential to these comics lol
@Norvo82
@Norvo82 2 жыл бұрын
That opening will haunt my dreams for weeks to come... Excellent work.
@pious83
@pious83 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately Gorilla Grodd came to mind. Completely forgot about Monsieur Mallah though. That whole scene in Doom Patrol was so ..surreal and very Morrison. It's weird I remember watching the Justice League cartoon as a kid thinking Grodd and Ultra Humanite were the same character, due to that similarity.
@danyergert8122
@danyergert8122 2 жыл бұрын
"You think of speed's natural enemy: gorillas." lol
@phillipjohnson8903
@phillipjohnson8903 2 жыл бұрын
I never noticed how gorillas were a specific DC trope. Someone went through a "monkee is gud" phase
@josephsdsu1
@josephsdsu1 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention Alan Moore's Promethea and his Weeping Gorilla Comix, which combines the gorilla trope with the color purple, also a sales trigger.
@kennethjimenez5185
@kennethjimenez5185 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, how could you forget The Red Ghost’s gorilla?!?
@TitularHeroine
@TitularHeroine 2 жыл бұрын
Ape-X of the Squadron Supreme too.
@daviddalrymple2284
@daviddalrymple2284 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because the Red Ghost's gorilla was never on the cover of his early Fantastic Four appearances. But he did appear on the cover in some of his later appearances (like 1970s Invincible Iron-Man and 1980s Amazing Spider-Man).
@dlee827
@dlee827 2 жыл бұрын
The selfie-taking, drumming gorilla on issues #23 and #24 of Astro City vol#3 was a recent classic of the trope.
@RighteousBrother
@RighteousBrother 2 жыл бұрын
the greatest ape story of all time is, Monkey Business in the Charles Darwin Block, a Judge Dredd story and is well worth checking out!
@jakobstisen6366
@jakobstisen6366 2 жыл бұрын
The Ultra humanite from Justice League 2001 is one of my favorite Gorillas/Human I gess.
@kbar4462
@kbar4462 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO I can't overstate how much I enjoy your intros in every video
@justinsheppherd1806
@justinsheppherd1806 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely work, Chris. Really takes me back, and reminds me of why I was a DC kid all those years ago. So nice to see M. Mallah getting some recognition, and The Ultra-Humanite, who I hadn't thought about in decades.
@brianthomas2434
@brianthomas2434 2 жыл бұрын
The first time the Ultra Humanite changed bodies was in his LAST golden age appearance. He transferred his brain to a Hollywood actress....
@simonbarnett8668
@simonbarnett8668 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianthomas2434 He was in the All-star Squadron comic of the Eighties by Roy & Thomas, drawn by Rich Buckler and Jerry Ordway for a time and was one of my favourite books until they changed it because of Crisis, then relaunched as Young All-Stars. He appeared in many other JSA related books over the decades since, so no, Deloris Winters was not his final body-swap.
@brianthomas2434
@brianthomas2434 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonbarnett8668 you apparently didn't spot that I said last GOLDEN AGE appearance. UH probably had more appearances AFTER 1939 (the only times he showed up in the Golden Age; after 1940 Luthor served as Superman's go-to mad scientist). E. Nelson Bridwell, I believe, was the first to bring him back, still in the actress body in the seventies. Then Thomas (no relation!) in ASS, then the "Golden Age" miniseries and stuff I've forgotten or never knew about, as I stopped being a regular reader of comics in 1990.
@allantidgwell5624
@allantidgwell5624 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the great pulp character Six-gun Gorilla. Which had a small revival with Six-Gun Gorilla: Long Days of Vengeance, as well as a 6 issue run at BOOM! Studios This demonstrates a third common trope regarding apes; which has been seen through this video as well; teaching a normal gorilla to act like a human
@tonym.s7988
@tonym.s7988 2 жыл бұрын
Reading back at Martin Pasko's Superman run, a personal favorite of mine sue to his fleshing out of the Superman rogues gallery, particularly Metallo there was that odd chapter he tried to revive Titano. One of the mails he was sent said that Titano was better left forgotten. I disagree. He's a GIANT GORILLA WITH KRYPTONITE VISION, it's the closest thing we can get to Superman vs Kaijuu.
@markhutchins7808
@markhutchins7808 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, a couple friends of mine and I wrote in to Marvel Team Up to try to get them to use the Red Ghost and his Super Apes. We wanted Spider Man and apes
@leetri
@leetri 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is related to how in a lot of vintage sci-fi and horror movies the monster is someone wearing a gorilla suit.
@reprintranch
@reprintranch 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Apart from gorillas, there aren't many large, dangerous animals that can be portrayed halfway credibly by a man in a suit (mountain lion? crocodile? ostrich?) and there must be 1,001 old feature films, shorts and television episodes that involve a "gorilla at large."
@dcamaag709
@dcamaag709 2 жыл бұрын
What's the coolest species on Earth? Gorillaz Nuff said!
@bumbleguppy
@bumbleguppy Жыл бұрын
Oh! That reminds me! I forgot to turn off my evolution ray in the other room! Thanks, Chris!
@s.craigzahler8670
@s.craigzahler8670 2 жыл бұрын
DC should give hire you to collect these issues in a trade and write the intros. my guess is no small number of comictropes fans would buy it and spread the word. your humor is great and matched by your enthusiasm. keep it up!
@samu_menko4393
@samu_menko4393 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't stop thinking about more modern Marvel's Agents of Atlas's Gorilla-man and Hit-monkey. Well also the first gorilla in comics I have encountered was CY-gor...
@matheusemanueldossantos6759
@matheusemanueldossantos6759 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Brazil! 🇧🇷 We have a strong tradition of national comics, but we had a lot of influence from American hero comics, which, to this day, are one of the most popular genres around here. It's always a joy to discuss the follies of the Silver Age. What a beautiful channel! Congratulations!
@FemboyCatGaming
@FemboyCatGaming 2 жыл бұрын
There is also the all gorilla themed issue Swamp Thing Annual 3 which features tons of gorilla heroes and villains being mind controlled by grodd
@MariaVosa
@MariaVosa 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought this would be a Comic Tropes topic for a video - and I love it!
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 2 жыл бұрын
DC also did a fair amount of reprints in the 1970s, including DC Special #16, Super-Heroes Battle Super-Gorillas. It reprints gorilla stories against Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and The Flash.
@damianmonke3922
@damianmonke3922 2 жыл бұрын
As a primate myself this episode got me really hyped!
@TheDropOfTheDay
@TheDropOfTheDay 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how high quality your content is.
@professorskye
@professorskye 2 жыл бұрын
I literally started eating a Banana after this video started. Also, been collecting Grodd for awhile and was happy to snag the Nembo kid a few years ago.
@matthewjones6786
@matthewjones6786 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Marvel movies that got me looking at comics for the first time. Gotta say, I love this “anything goes” era!
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, green and purple? Your boots orange? Y'look like a villain...
@reprintranch
@reprintranch 2 жыл бұрын
The folks over at EC Comics, always happy to borrow ideas, published a story called "Gorilla My Dreams!" in The Haunt of Fear issue 17, cover-dated February 1953. In it, a surgeon transplants a man's brain into a gorilla's body, with tragic results. At Marvel, Rawhide Kid faced off against a gorilla known as "The Ape" in issue 39, cover-dated April 1964. Also, regarding the comment at 17:57 about the Marvel story "I Am the Gorilla-Man" from Tales to Astonish issue 28 (Feb. 1962 cover date), the phrase "one-off sci-fi story" made me chuckle because the Gorilla-Man was actually one of the few Marvel monsters that made a second appearance in those pre-hero days. :) In this case it was just two issues later with the imaginatively titled "Return of the Gorilla-Man" in TTA #30 (cover-dated April '62) -- coming back "by popular demand," or so the cover says. Both stories were reprinted in issue 5 of the Marvel giant-size monster book Fear, cover-dated November 1971, offering a relatively low-cost way to enjoy these Kirby/Ayers classics.
@keithpl5438
@keithpl5438 2 жыл бұрын
"...You think of speed's natural enemy -- the gorilla!"😂😂
@Ian64
@Ian64 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video you’ve made that i watched, and that intro is so impressive I already like your vids man keel it up 👍
@scottguerin5741
@scottguerin5741 2 жыл бұрын
I think I had that Strange Adventures with the lie detector cover when I was a kid. My grandfather stored a couple of stacks of my comics in a work storage place that he allowed a tenant that ran a thrift store to have access to. A lot of stuff ended up missing, including my comics. This crook ended up going to jail for molesting a little girl, so stealing comics was the least of his crimes.
@jessegartung294
@jessegartung294 2 жыл бұрын
You should talk about why writers like writing about evil Superman like villains
@kid_eh
@kid_eh 2 жыл бұрын
Disproportionate number of primates in comics when compared to number of wolverines.
@NatetheNerdy
@NatetheNerdy 2 жыл бұрын
My comic book guy loves Julius Schwartz, and once told me that he had a list of 7 things DC found could be put on a cover to make that book sell better. They were gorillas, fire, dinosaurs, motorcycles, a hero crying, the color purple, and a question being asked. This leads to my favorite comic cover ever, Secret Origins #40, which features all 7 and yet sold horribly.
@Kooljupiter
@Kooljupiter 3 ай бұрын
This is crazy!! You would think it would be dinosaurs.. or tigers!?
@ChannelOfTheWriter
@ChannelOfTheWriter 2 жыл бұрын
7:47 Oh, that's the Gorilla from Peacemaker.
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly.
@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115
@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! You really made a documentary!
@tonybaggett1984
@tonybaggett1984 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how you can keep coming up with such high quality content. Love seeing new videos each week just don’t know how you do it.
@grkpektis
@grkpektis 2 жыл бұрын
When this poped up in my YT feed I thought "eh i don't care about this subject but I'll watch it because this channel is great". I am really glad I watched this because this was hilarious i love this video
@andrewjefferson5097
@andrewjefferson5097 2 жыл бұрын
Gorilla Man has been a supporting character in the current volume of Avengers and the Agents of Atlas team he used to be on is a personal favorite of mine. Plus Hellboy has frequently fought cyborg nazi gorillas. They even appeared on the cover of a Hellboy comic in the first movie
@mikesary6468
@mikesary6468 2 жыл бұрын
You totally forgot the short-lived 60's DC comic Angel and the Ape!
@MrCeratix
@MrCeratix 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Benny gets his royalty check for that cameo
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
1:56 "Helped create" is a very VERY generous way of putting it.
@sca8217
@sca8217 2 жыл бұрын
It could probably be as simple as the fact that gorilla is the one animal that can be drawn in comics with anatomy and gestures not much different than a hunched over human, and still qualify as an animal. Most American comics artists shun drawing quadruped animals and birds due to lacking the enormous amount of study , observation and practice that it takes to draw these creatures. I don't see that kind of aversion to drawing animals in European, south american or Japanese comics. The only notable exception is Joe Kubert who drew some really amazing animals in his Tarzan series.
@tonymiles273
@tonymiles273 2 жыл бұрын
A great episode about a fun topic! It's clear you really enjoyed do this one!
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 2 жыл бұрын
This episode was very fun, and a nice return to analyzing tropes.
@paullewis69
@paullewis69 2 жыл бұрын
Great topic! Let’s not forget Ape X from Squadron Supreme Ltd series donned the cover of #6 & 9, although not predominantly.. Great job & love the off the beaten path topics! 👍🏼
@Olympics2048
@Olympics2048 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Was kinda hoping you’d touch on DC’s Angel and the Ape, though! Maybe next time
@DaveNoe1
@DaveNoe1 2 жыл бұрын
The Owl faces a gorilla in Crackajack Funnies #38.
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how popular characters like Detective Chimp and Hit Monkey were back in the day. It might even be the thinking behind the Wonder Twins' monkey pet thing.
@darriendastar3941
@darriendastar3941 2 жыл бұрын
As ever, that was superb. There's actually a hell of a lot of other cultural concepts that arise from this episode. I don't understand them, yet, but there was some kind of thing going on in the West generally that moved children's attention from gorillas in the '60s towards dinosaurs in the '80s. Sorry for appearing patronising, but you've *really* earned the 'tropes' aspects of the channel's name with this vid. You've identified a trope I've not understood before. And now I want to know why it exists! Man, you're a master of your craft. Thank you.
@Weasel_Patrol
@Weasel_Patrol 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if all those obscure gorillas became citizens of Gorilla City
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 2 жыл бұрын
I used to pull animal books off the store shelves my family and I would go to all the time as a kid, ESPECIALLY if it had a dinosaur, crocodile, lion, shark, or gorilla on the cover. I think we can all relate, perhaps it's just that as kids, we are naturally drawn to the more dangerous and "taboo" animals, as violence is a developing idea in our young minds, and it makes them more mysterious and fascinating to read and learn about. Our monkey brains may also use that as a learning experience to better prepare ourselves for a dangerous encounter with the animals in the future.
@shaunieinthewrasslin2877
@shaunieinthewrasslin2877 2 жыл бұрын
Sleeper episode, didn’t know what to expect but I really enjoyed this one, great job!!!
@OkMakuTree
@OkMakuTree 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic! I’ve been curious for a while why old school DC seemed to like slapping gorillas on comic covers so much.
@andersonic
@andersonic 2 жыл бұрын
I've wondered about that Jimmy Olsen forced marriage cover for ages. Thank you Chris for doing the research. Maybe I could have investigated but I didn't want to pry, mate.
@Flashshadow
@Flashshadow 2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, The Flash and Doom Patrol are my most read DC comics. 😆
@DrthVictor
@DrthVictor 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Four 13 is one of my favorite comics ever, featuring a gorilla, an orangutan, and a baboon as minions of the Red Ghost. But they don't appear (and aren't even mentioned) on the cover. Marvel missed an opportunity!
@DforDembol
@DforDembol 2 жыл бұрын
A very entertaining video. Gorillas are magnificent creatures. I think you may've missed Kamandi, which had a bunch of talking gorillas.
@paulcoyle3765
@paulcoyle3765 2 жыл бұрын
There was Gorr the golden gorilla who appeared in the Fantastic Four 171. Gorr was evolved from an ordinary gorilla by the High Evolutionary and sent to Earth to enlist the FF's help against Galactus, who was trying to eat Counter-Earth. Gorr's spaceship crashes and something in Earth's atmosphere causes him to increase to King Kong size and lose his intelligence. Which leads to a chase through New York and a battle with the FF. Great Kirby cover and interior art by a young George Pérez. This was during Roy Thomas's second run on the Fantastic Four in the mid-seventies, when I had just started reading comics. These are some of my favourite FF stories, along with the original Lee-Kirby masterpieces from the sixties.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful video! I really enjoyed it. Few things in life are perfect, but comic books with gorilla covers are about as close as we've ever come.
@zakazany1945
@zakazany1945 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel tried to catch up (although a bit late) with the Marvel Apes series, if that would even count. But, for sure apes catch my attention, as I love studying great apes
@hudsonclarkk
@hudsonclarkk 2 жыл бұрын
my boy rocking that TEDDY FRESH
@ChapMeifan
@ChapMeifan 2 жыл бұрын
I will admit that, as a kid, I bought any comic if it had a gorilla on the cover. Most were horrible (Brotherhood of the Spear being my least favorite) but I was into Planet of the Apes and King Kong and wanted my ape fix. The thing that still baffles me, though, is the connection between surf music and monsters. Most surf bands pay homage to Universal Monsters but I fail to see the connections.
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