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Why do so many people play this riff wrong?

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Paul Davids

Paul Davids

Күн бұрын

In this video I am showing why many people play this riff wrong.
Thanks to the peeps of the KZbin clips I was showing, it's not meant to bash, but to learn other viewers why this happens to so many guitar players! And of course to teach you how to avoid this stuff from happening :)
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@PaulDavids
@PaulDavids 6 жыл бұрын
Oh and by the way, I've been there too. I totally played Master of Puppets wrong back in the days until I really listened to the song again! Any songs you discovered you've been playing wrong the entire time?
@sleepymarauder4178
@sleepymarauder4178 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Davids redbud tree from mark knopfler. Missed a part from the solo. Listening to the song and doing research really helps. Great vid as always!
@TUKMAK
@TUKMAK 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Davids all of them.. literally every song I learn I just try to imitate it as best I can
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
Ziggy Stardust...I was jumping into a D chord in the verse ("...the Spiders from Mars..." and corresponding spots throughout) instead of playing the single note line that Mick Ronson used to punctuate that moment. It took many years of playing it incorrectly before I finally did some homework and learned the proper part...now if I try to play it the way I used to, it drives me bonkers!
@christopherhinton9493
@christopherhinton9493 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t Fear The Reaper. I used to play the third broken chord as F C F G but I now think it should be F C D G.
@exarom1670
@exarom1670 6 жыл бұрын
Many people play 'around the world' by the the chili peppers wrong.
@beeeennnnnnn
@beeeennnnnnn 6 жыл бұрын
He censored his accidental middle finger I'm dying 😂
@jaspernolan3780
@jaspernolan3780 6 жыл бұрын
youtubes hard these days man
@elmo451
@elmo451 6 жыл бұрын
4:29😂😂😂 coz he's holding the guitar pick with his index and thumb finger that's why he used his mid finger for pointing😂
@lamuseiktamer8735
@lamuseiktamer8735 5 жыл бұрын
Not YT man... your country ^^ In France we don't have this kind of problem ... yet
@thatoneguy-pm8cn
@thatoneguy-pm8cn 5 жыл бұрын
Iktamer it’s a problem on KZbin not just a country
@NopeVS
@NopeVS 5 жыл бұрын
And I came to the comment section just to see who was the first champion to make this comment !! Brilliant 😂
@lopocaldeiramarques4831
@lopocaldeiramarques4831 6 жыл бұрын
I don´t even play the guitar, why am I watching this at 3am on a monday
@itsallgood5314
@itsallgood5314 6 жыл бұрын
Francisco Caldeira Marques this would describe my life rn but it’s Thursday night
@williamthomas5780
@williamthomas5780 6 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever.
@FranciscoGarcia-pf3ot
@FranciscoGarcia-pf3ot 6 жыл бұрын
Same hahaha
@bearpitrock
@bearpitrock 6 жыл бұрын
I play guitar but I, too am watching at 3am on a Monday. 🤣
@goncalobessa5915
@goncalobessa5915 6 жыл бұрын
because theres a think called marketing and you are beeing influenced by it, ask youtube for more details
@0prahTV
@0prahTV 6 жыл бұрын
this man has a beard, therefore I trust him
@ryanwilliams4223
@ryanwilliams4223 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you think my name is Beardy ?
@jmbwithcats
@jmbwithcats 6 жыл бұрын
Do you listen to Red Bar Radio? That was such an RBR thing to say.
@juanpotz
@juanpotz 5 жыл бұрын
You can also tell by his hairstyle he's good.
@Capillus
@Capillus 5 жыл бұрын
That's something Peter Griffin would say
@ComaAlpha
@ComaAlpha 5 жыл бұрын
His beard makes me want to punch him even more than I already want to.
@quarter_moon_and_a_guitar
@quarter_moon_and_a_guitar 6 жыл бұрын
Did you ever consider that Kings of Leon may be playing it wrong and everyone else is right?
@tilmanstamm3987
@tilmanstamm3987 6 жыл бұрын
You made my day😂
@user-lq6xl8di9m
@user-lq6xl8di9m 6 жыл бұрын
It may be one of those situations where the producer got lucky. He was so sick of take after take and they couldn't get it right so fuck it - if you don't hit it on the 100th take then this is the song. walah hit song.
@POVShotgun
@POVShotgun 6 жыл бұрын
Lollll I was just thinking that oh my god
@NerdGlassGamingPA
@NerdGlassGamingPA 5 жыл бұрын
Wow ... mind = blown
@kyerogers7838
@kyerogers7838 5 жыл бұрын
Kings of leon are never wrong
@thecampfire4877
@thecampfire4877 6 жыл бұрын
As a musician, I've heard so many covers of this song, and was never really sure why they sounded funny. This is a great video
@mjallenuk
@mjallenuk 6 жыл бұрын
4:28 ... I return your salute sir with tone knobs on! 😁
@brianwarner308
@brianwarner308 6 жыл бұрын
i know a girl named Anna Crusis….i tried to pick her up
@oqsy
@oqsy 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to retweet this.
@fernandogonzalez5770
@fernandogonzalez5770 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Warner were you at a bar
@scumbag1731
@scumbag1731 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Warner You couldn't pick up a pencil
@prachand.not.prachanda
@prachand.not.prachanda 6 жыл бұрын
But it was only solo you get to play
@andreidavidmatiut5559
@andreidavidmatiut5559 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Warner marilyn manson
@kanealson5200
@kanealson5200 6 жыл бұрын
I start counting the one about an hour before I start playing the song and then I come in around the 6,216th beat. Hey but that's just me.
@TheZippy170
@TheZippy170 6 жыл бұрын
ha ha, yeah thats me aswell, been playing 20 yrs and ime still shite haha , and i play the same shite riffs over and over again, and never learn fuck all new. powerchords and barre chords if ime not too stoned. haha see ya
@eamonsefton5953
@eamonsefton5953 6 жыл бұрын
THAAAAANK YOU SO MUCH! I've wanted to point this out forever. In highschool my band played this song and we did it correctly, because we listened to the song. It would drive me CRAZY hearing other bands do it wrong.
@gorbashin
@gorbashin 6 жыл бұрын
We covered this song for the hot second I was in a band. The first practice was hell because I knew something was off and it took a full half hour before I got it to sound right...and you just illustrated why. Glad to know that even if the mind doesn't know the term, that the ears still hear the truth.
@coopercarter
@coopercarter 6 жыл бұрын
Throw "All Along the Watchtower" and "Panama" in with this for songs everyone starts with the wrong rhythm.
@vadlasletta
@vadlasletta 6 жыл бұрын
Cooper Carter agree!
@connor-bj6ku
@connor-bj6ku 6 жыл бұрын
In fairness, "All Along the Watchtower" is a Dylan song so the rhythm is open to a bit of interpretation
@coopercarter
@coopercarter 6 жыл бұрын
I'm obviously referring to the Hendrix version, but lol at the Dylan comment. Too true 🤣🤣
@TurtleRocker12
@TurtleRocker12 6 жыл бұрын
The Metallibanger Of Mordor it was Dylan's song. Hendrix covered it and made it completely different
@connor-bj6ku
@connor-bj6ku 6 жыл бұрын
The Metallibanger Of Mordor Haha, good joke
@PianoVampire
@PianoVampire 6 жыл бұрын
It's not really anyone's fault they are hearing it wrong, as there is a definite stress on the second note of the intro (possibly accidental), not the third note, so your brain is thrown from the start - thanks so much for the video !
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR 6 жыл бұрын
Very well explained!
@dennisboxem
@dennisboxem 2 жыл бұрын
Played this song probably 250+ times as a drummer. And yes, its been interesting. Especially as there's an open hihat on the 'and' of 4 where the drums come in. Which could be used to fix the feel if the guitarist has the beat inverted. But it has also been known to cause widespread panic because the guitarist realises at that point he has the pulse all wrong and then goes to try and fix it :P
@ACrustyHippie
@ACrustyHippie 6 жыл бұрын
This man's beard is incredible.
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 6 жыл бұрын
He is to beards what Johnny Thunders is to long hair.
@eduxmalvido7908
@eduxmalvido7908 6 жыл бұрын
He looks an sounds just like Obi-Wan Kenobi
@jaydenjenkins6696
@jaydenjenkins6696 6 жыл бұрын
Is clean
@ohyeahyeah4205
@ohyeahyeah4205 6 жыл бұрын
Ha 69 likes
@ACrustyHippie
@ACrustyHippie 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm familiar with the dead skin, but all that other stuff is really intense. LOL, you've got a whole other universe on the underside of your chin.
@enzorum2560
@enzorum2560 6 жыл бұрын
4:28 😂😂😂 the finger
@tkplg21
@tkplg21 6 жыл бұрын
HAAHAHA lol
@Diegoromero2006
@Diegoromero2006 6 жыл бұрын
I've only been playing the guitar since october last year but i can really appreciate videos like these that arent meant to criticize but to teach. Theres a Difference between people that just play and musicians just like "there are pilots and there are Aviators". Great job
@TheOneWhoSimps
@TheOneWhoSimps 5 жыл бұрын
You played sweet child O mine on the wrong pickup position.
@XIxR3DEEM3RxIX
@XIxR3DEEM3RxIX 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and the smell of the room wasn't correct too.
@TheOneWhoSimps
@TheOneWhoSimps 5 жыл бұрын
@@XIxR3DEEM3RxIX XD
@j_freed
@j_freed 5 жыл бұрын
How can you play the riff without cocaine and prostitutes.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when you pointed to the guy in the first or second video and said “He knows it’s wrong”
@luh8389
@luh8389 3 жыл бұрын
That feeling... "Omg... Please, play it the right way at least once, guys". 😭
@AlexMS02
@AlexMS02 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I played that song with my band and we had that exact problem
@PaulDavids
@PaulDavids 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I mean! We've all been there ;)
@AlexMS02
@AlexMS02 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Davids Thanks man!, maybe we could try to play it again and see what happen :)
@465marko
@465marko 6 жыл бұрын
Even if you guys just realised it wasn't right, you were probably more switched on than most people (in my honest opinion!!).
@PianoVampire
@PianoVampire 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing this up - it always confused me ! Same with the beginning to Drive My Car
@richeywcassel
@richeywcassel 6 жыл бұрын
|1+2+3+4+|REST-0-16-0-14 Is how I play it and imho I think sounds groovier and is easier to drum to, but it is in fact as you say on the 4.
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 6 жыл бұрын
I think of the riff as if it was a ska type rhythm and it makes sense then.
@biscuitking7059
@biscuitking7059 3 жыл бұрын
Man if wasn't for people as helpful and useful as you we'd all get stuck thanks so much for this lesson it really did help me
@LeftHandedGuitarist
@LeftHandedGuitarist 6 жыл бұрын
The problem when the band comes in is usually the drummer being off. I've worked with a couple who got this song right and it was always glorious! Other times it's up to the rest of us to shift the riff and match to what the drummer is laying down. I agree that if you don't do that then that's never going to sound good.
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
LeftHandedGuitarist Ah, the joys of playing with a drummer that has difficulty counting off the beginning of a song that isn't a straight "1, 2, 3, 4..."! Feeling your pain brother lol!
@ShootNeutrality
@ShootNeutrality 6 жыл бұрын
Try working with a singer that can't keep time. Sympathy for the Devil becomes interesting.
@joricklania8627
@joricklania8627 6 жыл бұрын
If the drummer is off, don't keep playing. If you keep playing on an off beat, can't it only get worse?
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
Shoot Neutrality omg, you've been cursed with the worst curse there is for a musician...bandmates that can't even count to FOUR! lol!
@ShootNeutrality
@ShootNeutrality 6 жыл бұрын
He can count to four just fine, he just starts the count in the wrong place.
@azmainmomen9010
@azmainmomen9010 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul can you make a video which sorta showcases the kind of music style Mateus Asato has?
@paulolsen6870
@paulolsen6870 6 жыл бұрын
Azmain Momen it's called noodling.
@veeralmanekdrums
@veeralmanekdrums 6 жыл бұрын
I mean technically it's probably the drummer that's wrong...
@PaulDavids
@PaulDavids 6 жыл бұрын
Well, maybe it's their faults too, but definitely not only.
@PaulDavids
@PaulDavids 6 жыл бұрын
Because all play it wrong in the 2nd verse too.
@veeralmanekdrums
@veeralmanekdrums 6 жыл бұрын
Its a great video. Without watching it as a drummer, I would definitely come in on the wrong beat and probably keep adjusting to the wrong beat even if the guitarist tried to correct it!
@MrTruthAddict
@MrTruthAddict 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if the guitar player wasn't shitty he would have stopped playing and told him to start over. I play guitar and drums so I pay attention to these things, but so many people do shit like this all the time. I've quit a lot of bands over stuff like this, because a lot of guitar players have huge egos and they don't want someone else correcting them. Ridiculous
@joemclocklin8651
@joemclocklin8651 6 жыл бұрын
Technically he's the one with the most difficult job. Take a lazy riff and make it decent. Also this band sucks hard elk balls.
@BTsMusicChannel
@BTsMusicChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I am with you on the "who cares if it is exactly note-for-note, but you have to make it rock" attitude. And when it comes to making something rock, the pitches are 99.9% of the time not as important as playing them in time. I also agree that too many people rely on tabs. How do I know? Because they ask me to make them for stuff that I've performed on my channel. During the 80s, when I was first learning guitar, we didn't have tabs or the internet. Back then, guitarists used their ears and didn't get caught up in note-for-note as much as making it work musically. Your point about looking at performances on KZbin is spot on! If a guitarist wants to learn a song, first try my ear and get as far as you can. When you get stuck (or if you want to check your work), go look at a live clip. I sometimes take a look at other solutions to the musical problem by looking at a tab or another person's performance, but I don't go there first and I don't trust them implicitly. Tabs have become the enemy of the people. Good video -- and you don't come off as a snob. (I was afraid you would after I saw the title.)
@vincentgirard-reydet2447
@vincentgirard-reydet2447 6 жыл бұрын
mind = blown! This seems so obvious once you've shed the light on it... it happens in a LOT of songs with accentuated notes. Thanks for taking the time to explain it slowly!
@NathanLaValley
@NathanLaValley 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that noticed that he blurred out his own accidental middle finger? 4:28
@farout666
@farout666 6 жыл бұрын
TheMusicVlogger because demonitisation
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hearyoume9004
@hearyoume9004 6 жыл бұрын
cuz he realized he was accidentally doing a middle finger (?
@hearyoume9004
@hearyoume9004 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dahleen probably he did that joking and censored it just to have fun or something, who knows
@hearyoume9004
@hearyoume9004 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dahleen I do hope that too
@icenic_wolf
@icenic_wolf 6 жыл бұрын
As a life-long drummer who's now learning guitar, THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one who noticed this, and it's been driving me CRAZY.
@icenic_wolf
@icenic_wolf 6 жыл бұрын
Also often-butchered: Enter Sandman... Kills me when the riff is started on 1.
@releaseden3rgy895
@releaseden3rgy895 6 жыл бұрын
Trent Michael yeah even in interviews Caleb says he hates that he even wrote this song, especially since it was their top hit. Still a very catchy and fun riff to play!
@sebradfield
@sebradfield 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a lot older - a bass player who started playing in the '60s. Two of these that always affected me in different ways were both Beatles songs. 1. I Want To Hold Your Hand: The intro starts on an off beat, and I've never been able to listen to it and get it right in my head. If I play it it's easy, because I can count it out, knowing when the singing starts. and it matches the middle section of the song, but if I'm listening to the recording it always throws me. 2. She's A Woman: The guitar walks down on the off beat and always plays the two and four beats. After the walk down the bass comes in on the one and three counts, making a fairly standard old-school rock 'n' roll beat. The problem came with one guitarist who always got thrown out of synch when I came in. In this case it was easy for me, but he just couldn't get it right to save his life. As soon as I'd come in he would stop and complain. I'm betting that every single one of us has at least one of those little oddities that was easy for the guy who created it but drives the rest of us crazy.
@NewYorkSong1
@NewYorkSong1 6 жыл бұрын
50 Frickn years Pro player and I STILL cant play that frickn opening to Hold Your Hand right! Good God!
@danjolliffe6769
@danjolliffe6769 6 жыл бұрын
Foo Fighters - Times Like These. The time signature change in the hook to 7/4. Seen so many bands mess it up. Another video idea for you
@joshperry9468
@joshperry9468 13 күн бұрын
I'm playing this in a cover set and our drummer was haaating me playing it wrong. This helped so much, thanks Paul!
@hobbesismycat
@hobbesismycat 6 жыл бұрын
@Paul Davids, what sort of jacket is that? I really like it!
@TheClagga96
@TheClagga96 6 жыл бұрын
Is it me or did I think this vid would be for Smoke on the Water? as that is a riff that soo many ppl get wrong lol
@royalcat10
@royalcat10 6 жыл бұрын
Well I don't think a lot of people get Smoke on the Water 'wrong' per se. Just different than how it's originally played. Usually they play it in a different key, or in the same key but using different fret positions. Neither of these are wrong, just different.
@carlkolthoff5402
@carlkolthoff5402 6 жыл бұрын
royalcat10 Anyone playing that riff using powerchords and a pick is pretty far from what Ritchie did in the original. (Hint: Try fingerpicking fours instead.)
@royalcat10
@royalcat10 6 жыл бұрын
A fourth chord is just an upside down powerchord. (So a Power Chord would look A-E, a Fourth looks like E-A) So as I said, just using different fret positions. The same overall chord that the person hears whether it's played as a fourth or a power chord (5th chord) is the exact same. It just gives a bit of a different 'flavor' depending on which you use. Neither are 'wrong' they are just different ways to play the same thing. It's true that that isn't the way Ritchie played it in the original, but that doesn't mean that they are playing the wrong notes, or rather the wrong intervals if the person plays it in a different key.
@hansolo989
@hansolo989 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it would be paranoid
@RabbiRan
@RabbiRan 6 жыл бұрын
The Clagga Your lol ruined the joke
@kevinnashiscool1
@kevinnashiscool1 6 жыл бұрын
“Ana cruises” hello new band name.
@butterstik9236
@butterstik9236 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like a name for a pub. “Hey have you been to anacrusis?” No. What is it? “A pickup bar.” Oh... ok.
@kevincollier4546
@kevincollier4546 5 жыл бұрын
@@butterstik9236 This comment is not getting the respect it deserves
@zuma5278255424
@zuma5278255424 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this got an explanation! As a drummee I could never figure out what people were doing wrong, but I knew I've heard it wrong once or twice. Good to know I'm not going crazy
@lucapipino
@lucapipino 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the song, but watching how you explain this is just mesmerizing. Loved it!
@milab9384
@milab9384 6 жыл бұрын
But in the end, it's not the guitar player who makes the mistake but the drummer, who is joining at the wrong time, is it? Please correct me if i'm wrong
@Klassenfeind
@Klassenfeind 6 жыл бұрын
Mila B Absolutely.
@DavidvdGulik
@DavidvdGulik 6 жыл бұрын
Both, a lot of guitarists make the mistake of changing how they play it the moment the band joins in
@TheMutantMindframe
@TheMutantMindframe 6 жыл бұрын
its everyone involved if nobody is internalizing the count correctly
@cscfpv6221
@cscfpv6221 6 жыл бұрын
Until the riff changes and the guitarist changes at the wrong time because they are taking the queue from the drummer. It is both, playing together, that are messing up. They are creating a scenario together where they both play it incorrectly.
@markfox6871
@markfox6871 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was done intentionally. Starting on the wrong beat is ear catching like tuning to E flat instead of E major. When you hear this it will grab your attention because it sounds different and that makes it difficult to ignore. You know you head something but not sure what it was. It’s only takes a second and it’s done. Now your mind is trying to figure out what just happened and You are drawn in. It’s a subtle accent designed to encourage a reflex from the listener. I use techniques like this and several others all the time when writing music. Another example is changing the time signature of a song from 4/4 to a 3/4 and then back a 4/4. The band tool changes time signatures quite well in several of there songs. It takes some planning and skill to make it work but if done right is very effective and hard to notice. We instinctively want to start on beat and stay on beat. starting at the bottom of the count is hard even when you are aware of it. He even started at the top of the count by accident at one point in the video and called out his own mistake. So I say the band did this on purpose. It’s hard to do that by accident and a drummer that is half decent would start on the wrong count unless they mean too.
@jacksonpayne3477
@jacksonpayne3477 6 жыл бұрын
That les Paul is sexy
@BTsMusicChannel
@BTsMusicChannel 6 жыл бұрын
You should maybe try to talk to it and get its number? Or are you too shy?
@MadaraUchiha-sp3jh
@MadaraUchiha-sp3jh 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, I think he's too shy to do that.
@AbsoluteAbsurd
@AbsoluteAbsurd 6 жыл бұрын
x’D true
@vecernicek2
@vecernicek2 6 жыл бұрын
It has a very tight plug, too
@j_freed
@j_freed 5 жыл бұрын
And that flame is on fire…
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer 6 жыл бұрын
So to be precise it is not the guitarist who plays it wrong, it is the job of the band to enter on the write note. ;)
@j_freed
@j_freed 5 жыл бұрын
Except if the guitarist is still wrong on the beat, they will compensate incorrectly again... to the way they hear it in their head.
@marekburag
@marekburag 5 жыл бұрын
yup and then wait for the second verse
@shawnparlour8562
@shawnparlour8562 4 жыл бұрын
This is a drummer issue, surely.
@silveradoLG
@silveradoLG 6 жыл бұрын
Good points. I also listened to the band play it, and it helps to know the drum beat behind it. It helps to make sense of the offbeat music pattern. I think anyways.
@jeffmaxwell7041
@jeffmaxwell7041 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great instruction on pickup sections. It's always been a difficult thing to explain to students and listeners alike. Thanks for making this easy to understand and communicate to others!
@martinsa4573
@martinsa4573 6 жыл бұрын
the verse guitar riff in Around the world by RHCP is another one that is so simple, yet i still do not understand it to this day.
@chromaticswing9199
@chromaticswing9199 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, that’s been bothering me forever! I’m a bassist, and I naturally want to sync with the guitar so badly. The guitar has a 16th note syncopation, moved just before the strong beat. If you need help feeling it, take a metronome and count “1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & *a*” On the a of 4, clap or tap or whatever. Repeat until you can keep the quarter note pulse in your head while accenting the a of 4. Hope this helps!
@SixStringflyboy
@SixStringflyboy 6 жыл бұрын
191 people have never heard of pick-up notes...
@spivvo
@spivvo 6 жыл бұрын
On a similar theme.... the opening of “rock and roll” by Led Zep
@KingBlonde
@KingBlonde 6 жыл бұрын
For sure
@ziiofswe
@ziiofswe 6 жыл бұрын
As a drummer: Fuck that intro. As a drummer who found a good tutorial a couple of years ago and figured it out: It's stupidly easy to play right once you know how.
@ThiscouldbeaName
@ThiscouldbeaName 6 жыл бұрын
uhm i dont get it whats with that riff? its super easy to play
@ziiofswe
@ziiofswe 6 жыл бұрын
Riff? I'm talking about the drums. Lots of people "don't get it". They improvise and manage to play it anyways, because it isn't that advanced... but lots of drummers think it's a bit weird, doesn't quite make sense.
@ThiscouldbeaName
@ThiscouldbeaName 6 жыл бұрын
ziiofswe Yeah, i know you meant the drums. I was rather talking to Paul Grice but i get what you're saying
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 6 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to count all the songs i've played wrong...the problem was lack of patience and inexperience...now i take my time and really dive deep into the nuances...you can always learn something from every song you master...great vid...love your stuff...rock on my brother!!!
@martinlicht1969
@martinlicht1969 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks..if you dont start in the pocket, things go haywire..A majority of my problems covering a tune are due to overlooking the pick up bar to the music. This is why I like having the real published music to learn it right. I appreciate the lessons you and others give always indicating how to count the rhythm.
@christopher0310
@christopher0310 6 жыл бұрын
THIS! This reminds me of that joke Fred Armisen made in "StandUp for Drummers" Guitar player plays intro. Drummer comes in... No no no no no. Its on the AND of FOUR. See 1, 2, 3, 4....
@CargoShorts7
@CargoShorts7 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul what are your biggest tips for improving your timing and understanding of how to play on the proper beats. For me, I play based on feel much more and have trouble thinking about the timing and beats at the same time. This is a huge draw back when I get together to jam with my mates. Any suggestions? Thanks!
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Willy, it sounds like you should become friends with a metronome...a solid rhythmic foundation is not only nice to have, it's critical if you plan on playing with other people! I'm sure Paul will be able to expand on this in much more detail, he's at least a thousand times the instructor than I am...best of luck with your musical journey!
@REDEEMERWOLF
@REDEEMERWOLF 6 жыл бұрын
Metronome
@soundofBeers
@soundofBeers 6 жыл бұрын
Agreeing with the metronome answers and keep practising slowly!
@carljohnson4691
@carljohnson4691 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, metronome. That should be your first accessory after a tuner.
@leftfieldcrush5952
@leftfieldcrush5952 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with the metronome suggestions, but something I found helped a lot when I started out was getting a really basic guitar book that took me through the theory of rhythm along with scales and chords and whatnot. It’s been my experience that learning the “dots” and counting gives you a better understanding of how music works. It seems like a backwards step at first, but the benefits quickly show...and it doesn’t take away your feel for the music but rather enhances it. Can’t hurt to try (?) :-)
@SnowTheJamMan
@SnowTheJamMan 6 жыл бұрын
You sound like Varg
@user-ct1ns6zw4z
@user-ct1ns6zw4z 6 жыл бұрын
Stop playing the riff wrong.
@turcitox
@turcitox 6 жыл бұрын
Let's find out
@ReanimatorsMutilations
@ReanimatorsMutilations 6 жыл бұрын
HaliniSnow sounds nothint like him
@MrAgustinach
@MrAgustinach 6 жыл бұрын
Are you writing this from Lost's Island Ben? Lol
@lebocharp
@lebocharp 6 жыл бұрын
"So what's happening?" "LETS FIND OUT"
@ironicallyscreaming
@ironicallyscreaming 6 жыл бұрын
i really like this guy. he seems like the kind of teacher to be patient and understanding even with a complete beginner
@Londonjefsomething
@Londonjefsomething 4 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha! The middle finger blur! So perfect. This has always been the most G rated guitar channel on youtube.
@rogeriosartori555
@rogeriosartori555 6 жыл бұрын
That's cool although I never played this riff because I don't even know what song is that
@webseiter
@webseiter 6 жыл бұрын
You missed Sex on Fire by Kings of Leon all trough the past 10 years!? I did not know this was possible KZbin land. I mean, that song - the whole album - was a massive hit worldwide and for good reason.
@Jebrysalus
@Jebrysalus 6 жыл бұрын
I'm on the same boat. Have no clue what song that is.
@caiobustamante7736
@caiobustamante7736 6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Langer I am Brazzilian, so is Rogerio, and... Well... I Guess it wasn't a really great hit here
@AnomieTrain
@AnomieTrain 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've never heard this song. I think the only song I've ever heard from Kings of Leon was Molly's Chambers and that was because--I think it was in an Apple commercial? It just shows you how out of the loop I am.
@danielsgrunge
@danielsgrunge 6 жыл бұрын
Don't mind listening to it Search for Come Around Sundown, it's an awesome album
@JazzGuitarScrapbook
@JazzGuitarScrapbook 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a guitarist. If it's not on the beat I don't understand it.
@joricklania8627
@joricklania8627 6 жыл бұрын
Jazz Guitar Scrapbook become a drummer. You'll figure out afterbeat notes and pickup notes quickly.
@nibbles324
@nibbles324 6 жыл бұрын
I've played by myself for 25 years. My timing sucks because it's not an issue. Still sound ok though
@kingadalou
@kingadalou 6 жыл бұрын
Jazz Guitar Scrapbook listen to tool. It'll make sense
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 6 жыл бұрын
25 years is a long time. The musical narrative is fairly well set by that point.
@HrSamstag
@HrSamstag 6 жыл бұрын
nibbles324 I'm a drummer, since 35+ years now. As soon as i would see that you care that less for timing i would quit rehearsing with you immediately.
@oudaram1
@oudaram1 6 жыл бұрын
We could mention that these upside down intro riffs, created to surprise the listener when the beat comes in, are rarely something you can feel, so they can only be played by people by denying their natural musical instincts. But, you become a better musician and they are a lot of fun.
@cia1328
@cia1328 6 жыл бұрын
oudaram1 but if you are used to playing harder music like Progressive music that's always changing from natural to compound and odd time signatures, this is rudimentary. Not to mention the subtleties that the percussion adds with ghost notes
@465marko
@465marko 6 жыл бұрын
+terran236 YOU'RE a ghost note.
@nnnnnnnnnick5557
@nnnnnnnnnick5557 6 жыл бұрын
Like the ocean by led.
@oudaram1
@oudaram1 6 жыл бұрын
like a bubble under the rubble
@jaqen-huzzah
@jaqen-huzzah 6 жыл бұрын
Except they're not created to surprise the listener. They're created because the musician is hearing non-existent beats in his head before he starts playing, and is too familiar with their own song to realise that no-one else can hear what's going on in his head. But yeah, figuring this stuff out is good practice.
@TwoCablesOCN
@TwoCablesOCN 6 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon this video, I have never heard this song in my entire life (hey, I'm 39, I live under a rock, etc.), I'm just a drummer, but I 'Liked' this video before I finished watching it because this is the kind of stuff that KZbin needs much more of. Thank you for doing this, Paul! I thoroughly enjoyed this entire video. In defense of anyone who makes this mistake with *any* song, it is all in how you are hearing and interpreting the rhythm. I have been playing and making music on my drums for about 25 years (since the summer of '93), and I still make this mistake with songs on occasion. It just happens. I don't know how to describe *why* it happens though. Again, I think it's just all in how you are hearing and interpreting the rhythm. Even though I have 25 years of experience playing and making music as a drummer, I didn't hear what was wrong until you explained it. And, just as you demonstrated, it's still easy to hear the rhythm incorrectly. I have a recent example. I am helping out a local cover band. They do a couple of songs that they start off with *guitar only* in a reggae-style: I'm Yours by Jason Mraz, and The Tide is High by Blondie. Now, when they do their guitar-only intro, they are playing the correct notes, but it is very easy to hear and feel their beat incorrectly. That is, instead of hearing the guitar strumming as being on the up beats (which would be the correct way to hear and interpret it), I sometimes hear them only on the downbeats because of the way they're playing it. So, I have to force myself to say "*and* 1, *and* 2, *and* 3" etc. along to the guitar part with my "and" matching each accented guitar strum so that I'm not playing on the wrong beats when it's time for me to start playing! So, the song Sex on Fire isn't the only song that has downbeats that can be easy to incorrectly hear and interpret when all you're hearing is the guitar, regardless if you're the one playing the guitar or if it's someone else (like a band mate). If you're in a band and it's clear to you that you're the only one who knows where the 1st beat of the measure is due to having a guitar part that makes it easy to incorrectly hear where the 1st beat of the measure is, it's your job to stop and take the time to patiently teach your band mates where it is, explaining that yes, it's very easy to hear it wrong.
@BrainiacFingers
@BrainiacFingers 6 жыл бұрын
This is why the drummer should always count off the song even if the drums don't enter until later. That way everyone knows where 'one' is. It's really that simple.
@AirsoftAddicted
@AirsoftAddicted 6 жыл бұрын
What a nice upload... you are very positive and it's a pleasure to learn from someone like you. All best, keep up a good work.
@GodnezZz1337
@GodnezZz1337 6 жыл бұрын
Did you just flip me off? 😱😱
@Cowglow
@Cowglow 6 жыл бұрын
Gojko Nezic i saw that too.
@iwashere368
@iwashere368 6 жыл бұрын
😂
@adrianbruton4689
@adrianbruton4689 6 жыл бұрын
It's now been fuzzed out. Haha
@quailstudios
@quailstudios 6 жыл бұрын
Go checkout Eric Clapton and you will see that sometimes guitarists have that hand position when we play. Apparently you flip people off from time to time and that is why you can see this symbol so readily. For guitarists, we don’t see that as a rude symbol when holding a guitar. :)
@christophersmith8850
@christophersmith8850 6 жыл бұрын
Saw that too! Why the block out now
@musik350
@musik350 6 жыл бұрын
What happens to his hand at 4:27??
@lanethomas2549
@lanethomas2549 6 жыл бұрын
He accidentally flipped us off so he had to blur it out
@gabrielaugustus
@gabrielaugustus 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please make this title more vague?
@jelijansen
@jelijansen 3 жыл бұрын
Hallo Paul, just want to let you know, that you’re by far the best online teacher I ‘ve ever experienced on KZbin. Not only is there lots of underlaying musical information, you’ re accurate and it all fits in place after watching your videos. Top! Thank you so much. Greetz Jeli Jansen, Zutphen
@deathbykitty1954
@deathbykitty1954 6 жыл бұрын
We play this song at every show. And every time it trips us up a little. The funny thing is that no one seems to notice. They love it regardlessly.
@ThorneyedWT
@ThorneyedWT 6 жыл бұрын
Did you say "horcruxes" are the problem?
@danwally4754
@danwally4754 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist. This guy is wrong, and I will show you why. Click here
@DimitrisFatisisMusic
@DimitrisFatisisMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Very well said! Tabs are nice when you begin playing the guitar, but when you start hearing the song you can get the most out of it! And you ‘re practicing your ear too! It’s a whole new level and it feels great! Keep the good job , Paul! 🤘🏻🎸🙏🏻 P.S I hope the Les Paul is alright! 👍☺️
@ericksonnuyda1542
@ericksonnuyda1542 5 жыл бұрын
Aside from all the quality of insights i am learning from you man, i like all the jackets you're wearing. Keep teaching.
@endertev
@endertev 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a drummer who plays guitar and man, you have to see everyone's faces when I try to explain to the guitarists what they're doing wrong, they can't even notice there's anything wrong 😂
@tomcordellmusic
@tomcordellmusic 6 жыл бұрын
knowing KOL they just fucked up the intro in the studio and left the extra beat in there
@LAZARO373
@LAZARO373 5 жыл бұрын
Ewan Mcgregor is a guitar youtuber now ?
@rockonileva
@rockonileva 6 жыл бұрын
OMG Is Sweet child o' mine really played without the pinky !? I'm trying now, but I'm so used to use it that the riff becomes weird to play... i'll keep the pinky AHAHHA
@royalcat10
@royalcat10 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Slash tends to just not use his pinky a whole lot. Probably due to the size of his hands maybe, but not sure. I first started playing that riff using my pinky but then I switched to just 3 fingers because I found that my fingers were just way too close together to play it comfortably. And this was before I even knew about Slash not using his pinky. Not really a big deal either way though.
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
Just because Slash neglected to use all of the digits on his left hand while playing that riff doesn't mean we have to purposely limit ourselves and follow suit!
@rockonileva
@rockonileva 6 жыл бұрын
yep.. that's the logic I'm using here ;)
@Sauzeisawesome
@Sauzeisawesome 6 жыл бұрын
I've never used my pinky playing that riff
@erskinepatton9637
@erskinepatton9637 6 жыл бұрын
I also first learned the Sweet Child o Mine riff using my pinkie. Shortly after, I simply noticed that Slash doesn't use his pinkie in the video. So I copied him and now I play it without.
@chloeacoustic9273
@chloeacoustic9273 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally about to learn this riff with my band, and wondered what was going on with this riff. Glad I watched this video before getting into bad habits myself! Cheers ears!
@waitin4winter
@waitin4winter 2 жыл бұрын
Riffs that start on the “4-AND” really confuse people. I’ve witnessed the same with the intro to the Eagles Take it Easy.
@stevens5541
@stevens5541 6 жыл бұрын
Learning music is harder than an alien language....wish I could understand and play a guitar
@thedominator4796
@thedominator4796 6 жыл бұрын
lone wrecche that scar face reference made me chuckle
@lucasclavijo803
@lucasclavijo803 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it?
@stevens5541
@stevens5541 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Clavijo ...yes...it just baffles me and it's to hard
@Calilou52
@Calilou52 6 жыл бұрын
Steven S You can do it man, i was the same way when i first picked up a guitar. I couldn't understand how people made these insane beautiful sounds with strings but i didn't let that stop me. 5 years later and i'm not the greatest, but i can write my own songs that i really enjoy which is what playing an instrument is all about. Just don't get caught up in wanting to be the best and just develop your playing style.
@Aaron-zh4kj
@Aaron-zh4kj 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing is stopping you but YOU! the internet has all you need (just filter through information, because all good AND bad information is on the internet unfortunately). But don't make "arriving" or "becoming amazing" your goal. Make getting better than you are right now everytime you pick up the instrument your goal. If the heart is there, which it sounds like it is, I imagine you have some natural inclination. But very important, practice and hustle is more important. Steve Vai once said that he was never a natural at guitar. What made him become as good as he is was learning to love practicing. Another famous quote, can't remember the individual (he wasn't a guitarist), is "talent is overrated. Hustle and hard work is the real stuff." Take that and never make excuses. I believe in you! That's why I took the time to type all this!
@jonathantylerjackson
@jonathantylerjackson 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. this is cool and all.. but where did you get that jacket..?
@phillipt6345
@phillipt6345 6 жыл бұрын
Deep in the closet with his sexuality.
@jonathantylerjackson
@jonathantylerjackson 6 жыл бұрын
nice dude
@jiros00
@jiros00 6 жыл бұрын
Almost everyone plays house of the rising sun (The Animals version) incorrectly.
@Pannemat
@Pannemat 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what could go wrong with that one?
@mackhomie6
@mackhomie6 6 жыл бұрын
Uhh, really
@flarkey
@flarkey 6 жыл бұрын
What an amazingly pedantic video - and I loved it! Must mean that I'm a pedantic guitar geek too! Thanks
@prestonbarr2358
@prestonbarr2358 2 жыл бұрын
I am a musician. At home and some parties only. I'm not a master guitarist. I'm not even that great. My rhythm and timing get wonky sometimes. I understand how this confuses so many people. But this is one riff that I can ONLY hear the third guitar note falling on the down beat. Any other way feels so wrong, and all the videos you showed at first were painful to hear, lol. I love your videos. Technical and informative, trying your best to give us the real truths and actualities while explaining them in a way someone less versed in the subjects might still be able to follow. Kudos.
@KingBlonde
@KingBlonde 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get how people can seriously hate this song, it was like the last rock/alternative song I've heard on the radio that wasn't completely bland and uninspired. Not saying it's fantastic, but nothing warrants the crap it gets.
@alienalibi2382
@alienalibi2382 6 жыл бұрын
R A T C H E T that's funny because it was boring and tedious for me,, like an imagine dragons song
@KingBlonde
@KingBlonde 6 жыл бұрын
Oh imagine dragons suuucks, but objectively there's nothing wrong with either band.
@Joum92
@Joum92 6 жыл бұрын
the anacrusis is actually a dotted quaver followed by a semiquaver
@danielbindel7537
@danielbindel7537 6 жыл бұрын
Radiohead - Bodysnatchers Pixies - Bone Machine
@alienalibi2382
@alienalibi2382 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bindel better than KOL and much more fun to play witj
@danielbindel7537
@danielbindel7537 6 жыл бұрын
also Kanye West - Runaway
@granthambeard
@granthambeard 6 жыл бұрын
Bone machine! Yes!
@danielbindel7537
@danielbindel7537 6 жыл бұрын
thought of another one: Nine Inch Nails - Survivalism
@wedgesalad3163
@wedgesalad3163 6 жыл бұрын
Queens of the Stone Age - If I Had a Tail
@dooleyfan
@dooleyfan 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent post. I never could figure the opening count for this song. Another tricky one (although a bit more obscure) is Blow at High Dough by Tragically Hip.
@grsdrm33
@grsdrm33 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Where people go wrong is that the song STARTS on the "4" as heard on the album. Most people assume that first note is "1". So many songs like this that the actual first note/s is/are the pickup. What REALLY messes people up are when the pickups are 16th's. Drummer's fall into this trap too. All the time...
@NidraxGaming
@NidraxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Sooo, Ewan McGregor after finishing being Obi-Wan became a guitar player 🤔
@sidneynascimento4470
@sidneynascimento4470 6 жыл бұрын
only for me that the title is in Portuguese?
@canalrps
@canalrps 5 жыл бұрын
p mim tbm man kkkkkkk
@davidmohr1920
@davidmohr1920 6 жыл бұрын
Timing man without it you are screwed :-)
@SleightlyPersonal
@SleightlyPersonal 6 жыл бұрын
I only watch your videos every once in a while (for no particular reason). I subscribe because every time I do watch, I enjoy it. You are always so calm and constructive, and I think every guitar enthusiast should hear what you have to say. So thank you for being a positive, constructive influence on guitarists and aspiring guitar players.
@timhanson8556
@timhanson8556 6 жыл бұрын
brother you are one great monster player !!! i always dig your corrections and very clear teaching style.. thank you for your time to make us better players.
@deepanshusingal9207
@deepanshusingal9207 6 жыл бұрын
You re magical. I am lucky i find you..☺️
@dezionlion
@dezionlion 6 жыл бұрын
like a unicorn? maybe yall can color together! that guitar sounds great. too bad all the songs you play on it are gay
@dezionlion
@dezionlion 6 жыл бұрын
+Mark Seymour fuck off Mark wasn't talking to you
@LeoSilva-sn3zo
@LeoSilva-sn3zo 6 жыл бұрын
You are the man !!!!!
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 6 жыл бұрын
HEY AIN'T THAT THE DOS EQUIS GUY ?
@raw5742
@raw5742 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen a lot of performers avoid playing songs in their original key and chords if they are sharp or flat ones and just smack on a capo. or just hope it works in the standard major minor chords .
@TheAgentAssassin
@TheAgentAssassin 6 жыл бұрын
I used to play highway star wrong. I used to play the first note open strings . I never used Barre chords to play it though like in the movie school of Rock which drove me nuts.
@tathagatgaurav1046
@tathagatgaurav1046 6 жыл бұрын
4:28.... When you see it XD
@richardstone5096
@richardstone5096 6 жыл бұрын
Hey all
@celticfury7328
@celticfury7328 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard!
@luizhenriquevs3036
@luizhenriquevs3036 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Stone,Hello!
@jl1269
@jl1269 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Stone Hey you
@desmondoliver5436
@desmondoliver5436 6 жыл бұрын
Out there in the cold...
@kionihernandez356
@kionihernandez356 6 жыл бұрын
Sitting in the internet cafe all alone
@carlalmonte4454
@carlalmonte4454 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao was just jamming this song in the car
@BTsMusicChannel
@BTsMusicChannel 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you might add is picking pattern. When you play Bluegrass, you always down pick on the beat and up pick the "ands." If you start this riff with an up pick, you will know it is an "and." I learned this idea when I studied double bass and my teacher showed me to upbow a pickup note, more often than not. When I learned to play Bluegrass guitar and the kind of picking required I quickly learned that there were very few exceptions to that rule. Rock has other kinds of picking (sweeps, rakes, and straight punk downpicking) but if you are doing alternate picking, consider that way of doing it. You can sometime break the rule and reverse it if the string crossings present a difficult problem, but you should be conscious of the pick direction.
@joshuadawson6719
@joshuadawson6719 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. Only started reading music recently and still have to mouth the numbers as I play to keep track.
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