Why Do Some Creators Defend Reaction Videos?

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A response to Necrit's video 'Are Reactions Harming Channels', which largely exists as a defense of Asmongold's content farm • Are Reactions Harming ...
As a content creator in the vast digital realm of KZbin, I've always been intrigued by the dynamics between original content and reaction videos. These reaction pieces have sparked debates across online communities, questioning the fairness and ethics of this practice. In my latest video, I delve into this complex topic, examining the intricate relationship between creators who invest time and effort into producing original content and reactors who leverage this content for their own channels.
This exploration isn't just about pointing fingers or taking sides. It's an in-depth analysis of how reaction content affects the digital ecosystem. I scrutinize the work and risk involved in content creation versus the seemingly effortless task of reacting. But more than that, I question the broader impact: Does this dynamic truly harm the creators, or is there a hidden benefit in the increased exposure? My video aims to shed light on these nuances, offering a perspective rooted in experience and observation.
Join me as I dissect the arguments, compare the efforts of creators and reactors, and assess the overall influence of reaction content on the KZbin community. Whether you're a fellow content creator, an avid KZbin viewer, or simply curious about the behind-the-scenes of digital content production, this video will provide valuable insights and spark further discussion on a topic that continues to shape our online world.
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00:00 Intro
00:53 Slot Machines Analogy
02:50 The Reaction Content Scheme
03:48 What Are Reactors?
07:16 Complaints Towards Reaction Content
10:12 Judging The Impact On The Creator Ecosystem
15:41 Assuming Reactions Only Hurt The Original Work
20:46 Overlooking Other Ways Original Video Is Harmed
23:33 Phenomenon Tested For Isn't Relevant In This Context
25:00 Testing Method Used Here Makes No Sense
25:49 Analysis Conclusions Lack Proper Data Support
42:14 The Trickle-Down Argument
43:57 Conclusion
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[@DarkViperAU]

This is a reupload of a response video that released a few months ago with two minor changes. It was released during that weird downturn for KZbin in Feburary so got overshadowed. As the channel is doing better now, I have decided to re-release it with a better Thumbnail as the last one had the lowest clickthrough of any of the episodes in the series.

[@Correct_Hamster]

Ok

[@dammitcarl1082]

Please do so. It’s a great video and an important topic. Would be a shame not to.

[@kuzeyrl]

ok

[@BeeIzebub.]

You definitely should. Necrit is, at best, misinforming people. At worst? Disinforming them. It's important to call out such things, especially if nobody else will.

[@StefanConstantinDumitrache]

I actually meant to ask you what you think of the Jubilee drama. They make videos to which a lot of "creators" react, and Jubilee said in the past they mostly have no issues with it even if the reactions are monetized, but recently they started throwing strikes with no warning, causing some "creators" to worry their channels will be deleted. Aba & Preach responded to precisely because of this.

[@ryanduffy2152]

In the words of my boy Carl, Ah shit, here we go again.

[@UI-dusk]

Me?

[@gamnirthe3rd]

Yessir!

[@Awsomepablo]

@@UI-duskALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN, CJ!

[@defalt_2797]

Asmongold reaction country, I haven't been representing the viper for five years, but reactors don't give a sh**. *Gets attacked by a cougar*

[@ShadowWolffi]

​@@UI-duskwow how funny..

[@amazingspidermew]

React content is 100% what people think of when people say “get a real job” to content creators since they’re so prevalent and are the “gateway” into getting some people into online content only for them to realize later that there’s *actual* content out there to enjoy.

[@rottenpotato4733]

It's like doing carpool to save money, but having to change the path you usually take so you can drop the passenger home, but the passenger doesn't give you any money for gas. You still had to drive, you spent more fuel and took longer to get home. Yeah, the total amount spent on gas was lower, but it wasn't to your benefit, it only dropped because you got a freeloader.

[@fivepandas1]

@@rottenpotato4733and you're blocking everyone else in traffic

[@WUTANGCLAN705]

It's true. React content is not creative. They often don't add anything. But when people look at channels like "CartierFamily" and see a few million views, when the only content added is "oh shit, yeah, wow, oh my" and they get 100,000 to a million in revenue, it continues.

[@rottenpotato4733]

@@WUTANGCLAN705 If so, I could go to where you work, comment on everything you do and then get a part of your paycheck. It would be justified because I'm "adding content" by saying braindead stuff and looking like a chump.

[@Gamfluent]

Removing ASMONGOLD XQC and others are more of a active disadvantage than a advantage, there’s so many small YT creators that have benefitted from a larger creator like Penguinz0 to boost relevancy, no one loses viewers or subscribers, the fact is people are watching them for their reactions they could care less about the KZbinr, watch anybody else aside from sensitive snake and you’ll see facts not ramblings of a lunatic

[@667dpb]

IIrc it was the original upload of this video that got a friend of mine from spending 90% of her KZbin time on Asmongold’s channel to none.

[@Johnyisme]

That’s a really good change.

[@dairiskuznecovs7233]

does autismbald do anything except react content? 99% of clips ive ever seen is him watching someones video while raid/dungeon is being done by other people

[@kingtiger3390]

Is your friend a sheep by any chance, because that seems like someone that can't form their own opinion on literally anything.

[@ryanduffy2152]

So it's a problem when someone loses views of reaction content. But it's okay because Matt doesn't like them?

[@cairox1509]

​@@ryanduffy2152huh?

[@trentonmyer1742]

I think Legal Eagle and Dr. Mike's vids would probably be the best example of what a reaction video should be without exploiting the entirety of the content. 10-15 second snippets (Or however long it takes to give full context for the scene so that what he's about to say makes sense) then dives into the details about his thoughts on the process, enriching the snippet with knowledge and helping us understand it before going onto the next one. Also the ones where those who created the content shown in the videos (Video game developers reacting to insanely fast speedruns, for example) is probably the best way for the entirety of the content to be shown without it being exploitative, as cutting out a portion of the video in post may leave out context for something that happens later, considering video games and speedruns, if the speedrunner is talking and is setting up his plan earlier in the video for what he's doing. As for why people watch reaction vids that aren't the above examples? Honestly? Maybe the back and forth of watching a video with someone and discussing about it (Reminds me of Moistcritikal's streams where he watched police chases or Forged in Fire when he talked to the chat about whatever about what was happening), along with the reactor in question asking all of the questions before then getting more responses in the comments answering his questions, in addition to recommendations to watch something else. The back and forth between commentor and reactor may be the biggest reason. Addition: If we are to remove or have KZbin set up a bot to take down reaction videos, then that could have a dangerous knock on effect. Try Not To (Insert thing here) vids would get knocked out immediately, despite the fact that the videos have been around for many, many years and people who make the comps, whether for laughs, scares, or otherwise don't appear have a problem with it (As far as I am aware of). I sadly also think that if reaction videos were to be banned or have guidelines to be legal then unfortunately big companies who want to crush any measure of criticism with their product (HBO MAX is the first I can think of, as they had a fraudulent copyright claim on The Little Platoon's dissection of Velma within 24hrs release of part 1 because of how harsh he was, even though he was FULLY within his right to show the content to give context to his words as a part of Fair Use) will have another way to do so, claiming the video is a reaction video, especially if the review is quick enough and KZbin will be forced to go along with it, much like any fraudulent copyright claim, lest they be threatened with legal action by denying or pumping the brakes on it to ensure the validity of said claim. Could I be thinking too much about how petty companies are and how stupid KZbin could be about the rules? Maybe, but then again I've seen enough to make me think that it would get exploited somehow.

[@maxxximum_productions]

There's also the fact that they're actually in a position to add something instead of just being a random someone.

[@UltraProchy]

KZbin could create a system that would give creators the control over allowing reaction content made on their video. It could be just an overlay of the reaction over the original video that you can choose and turn on. Video revenue could be split based on how many views the reactors actually bring through their channel. If there was a well done researched reaction done, the creator might choose to reward more. There is so much youtube could do to improve the situation but why do it when it rains money.

[@TheBorzoi]

Those examples you've given aren't reaction videos, they're commentary videos. People need to make that distinction. They add a significant amount information and content not present in the original due to their commentary. Reaction videos add almost nothing.

[@hotelzeta24]

​@@maxxximum_productionsNope, I don't like that argument, doctors can possibly be a lazy reactor or lie.

[@hotelzeta24]

​@@TheBorzoiExcept they REACT, so it's still react content.

[@hughwilliam4039]

Massive respect to Darkviper, and his stance on reaction content, its always refreshing to see a big channel stand up against blatant bs

[@the_babbleboom]

and yet he is comfortable with AI because he got his benefit out of it it's the exact same process as react content, but he and his fanboys don't want to see that. interesting how when it's easy to become part of the exploiters makes you blind to what you're doing - when you don't really have a spine.

[@cereal_the_man7830]

@@the_babbleboomblah blah blahhity blah

[@hughwilliam4039]

@@the_babbleboom im not a devout viewer of Matts, what was the ai situation?

[@JonstoneMCF]

@@the_babbleboom you can't compare AI to reaction content... him using AI doesn't directly harm anyone. what are u smoking?

[@fretfultrout2788]

@@hughwilliam4039like how most streamers use a generic text to speech program to read off donations or meme type messages he had that but with a couple gta VAs but he’s quit using them.

[@stephenelder3162]

Bro put on a shirt thats how you know its serious

[@rottenpotato4733]

That's considered a tuxedo for him

[@jessa9230]

😂😂😂

[@user-zi7ky8jj5u]

a: They are reactors. b:They have friends that are reactors

[@ultimatechad8738]

I have a friend that used to watch xQc almost religiously, any time he went live my friend would abandon what he was doing or who he was talking to previously just to go watch xQc. Recently I asked him about it and why he's so keen on watching xQc so much and he straight up told me "well usually it's boring but a few times during the stream he'll laugh". I obviously pointed out to him just how dumb that sounds and that he's spending literal hours watching somebody do barely anything, if anything at all. Thankfully now that he's in art school he's actually just watching original creators that don't waste his time and actually give him enjoyment from watching them

[@Norger56]

Your friend went from rags to riches

[@dathunderman4]

I think ppl start to build basically a parasocial attachment to streamers and they feel like when they’re watching react content, they actually watching it WITH them, as opposed to just watching the streamer. I don’t think this justifies react content at all, but just wanted to give an explanation to why some ppl would watch something that appears to be boring to any outsider.

[@Norger56]

@@dathunderman4 other people use it because they like the content the reactor watches

[@Rodrigo-lm1dk]

bizarre how xqc is a overrated creator

[@ultimatechad8738]

@@Rodrigo-lm1dk it's not that he's overrated, he's simply so popular people expect him to do more as a creator than just sit in his room most days and watch videos only

[@Mr.Slam87327]

XQC is so cringe and greedy, doing what he does just for money. Nobody sees how scummy and evil Reactards really are. How could anyone defend this practice and is accepted by KZbin?

[@ryanduffy2152]

I'm struggling to understand this. Does what he does just for money? I'm sorry isn't that the entire point of KZbin? Or even the world. I ain't defending him. But it's his job to make money on the platforms. The same way it is Matt's job. Neither do this for free. Matt also recently took a sponsor for money. Are you mad about that aswell?

[@Mr.Slam87327]

@ryanduffy2152 If you struggle to understand after watching this video, that's your problem that you have such a debilitating learning disability. You're a member to DarkViperAU and somehow React channels being scummy and evil is somehow beyond your understanding???

[@slyseal2091]

@@ryanduffy2152 I don't think he played ~10k hours of GTAV on his own so he could make money from youtube. Being able to do so is a nice bonus, but you can't earnestly think the money motive overwrites any interest in your chosen artform.

[@ryanduffy2152]

@@slyseal2091 you could play 10k hours of GTAV or play 5k hours of World of Warcraft. Sit at a desk or work at McDonalds .A job is a job. Ironically his most recent sponsorship was in fact GTA.

[@Mr.Slam87327]

@@ryanduffy2152 Tell me you condone content theft for react content without saying so. You must mentally struggle with a lot if you have a hard time processing why reactards are evil.

[@arthurdent5357]

Everytime I accidentally watch a reaction video, the algorhythm wont stop bothering me with reaction videos for weeks. It's not even least resistance, it's an active fight against the algorhythm that never stops.

[@CIavis]

That’s the coolest way I’ve ever seen someone spell algorithm. Seriously not even commenting to correct, I just would’ve never thought of spelling it that way.

[@hamiwiremu7154]

@@CIavis frfr cant even correct it, its an improvement on the word agaryhme

[@MenluiK]

So if I go buy, say, a Stephen King book and make comments in the margins like "Huh, this is cool!" and "Wow, I can't believe Cujo did that!" I can resell it as my own?

[@earth-chan9577]

Yes

[@phillnyetheplaylistguy3759]

Nah them book people would peg your bungus if you did that.

[@rottenpotato4733]

Yes, but you have to put a photo of you doing a fake expression on the cover and write something beneath the title like "WAIT, THEY DID WHAT???"

[@Okusar]

You can, because it's a singular copy of a book that you legally purchased. It's a fungible item. Now, if you were to instead make a few thousand photocopies of said marked up book and try to sell _those..._

[@yungjiggamayne2262]

Yes. I regularly buy used books, and i enjoy sarcastic remarks in the margins. Most people do.

[@gamermj223]

There have been times where people have won slots then the owners say, it's broken you didn't really win 2.5 million

[@Sten05]

The house always wins

[@jakegalea767]

I work at an iGaming company (online gambling), and this literally happened to us once. Someone won a large amount of money, and the company said, 'Actually, no, you didn't.' and took the money back with no compensation.

[@kaitek666]

​@@jakegalea767shame on you, get a fair job...

[@ZuluZizo]

www.youtube.com/@gamermj223 The chances of the slot maching malfunctioning is rare... about as rare as winning, allegedly.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@ZuluZizo Ye, but if I remember correctly there also had been a case where allegedly the firmware was broken, telling the winner that it actually would've landed on a small prize while then continuing to take away only that specific slot machine (not all the other ones that ran and/or had been updated to the exact same firmware) for "maintenance". Not to mention that it's oddly weird that the specific winner in that case wanted to sue them for it, but opted not to do so a few days later all of a sudden. Those kind of things make you realize that (depending on the country and where you go to play your slots) there's something more sinister than "the house always wins" going on - and I'm not only talking about the lack of empathy it takes to want to host slot machines either way, we're talking about millions here that can be used to silence multiple people that potentially could start major investigations in certain establishments - millions that you can take away from people who won at a net win, not even the millions that they already made through people who lost. From a standpoint towards reaction content its absolutely irrelevant (unless we learn about cases where reactors actually paid people to threaten actual creators) apart of the fact that the view distribution coming from it is very loosely related to how slots themselves work.

[@thatguyfrominvincible]

I got excited thinking this was a new video but it's the necrit one sadge, will watch anyways

[@tianamaycry]

As much as I'm sure this type of content is more difficult for you to make, I really appreciate it a lot. Your observations and the way that you convey your points tend to resonate with me. I think it is clear that you're very thoughtful. I like the fact that I don't just know you for GTA content.

[@Matman651]

Its so weird. You literally see comments on reaction videos explicitly saying “I waited for you to react to watch this”

[@Jb-ve9vc]

Remember when a bunch of people got shut down for streaming anime? I'm just saying they do understand, the willfull ignorance is what annoys me. They don't stream spiderman movies, the fallout show or whatever, you, I and they know why.

[@Norger56]

People will do whatever they can to make money as long as it’s legal

[@reilandeubank]

What you say at the very end I feel is one of the most damning and blatant arguments you could put in someone's face. If they TRULY believe reaction content is good for... anyone, ask them to imagine youtube with no reactors, and then add the reactors in. There are the same number of viewers with the same amount of time to watch content. So, if the reactors get ANY VIEWS AT ALL, it follows that those views must necessarily have been taken from someone making original content. I feel that this is something you should touch on much more, as I think it is the most concise possible way to describe your position.

[@tillwill3232]

Ok but its not like the amount of viewers and the amount of time they spend on watching content is a fixed value no? A lot of people have a lot of time, its not like they will always spend all of that time watching content and that the time they watch content is always the same.

[@reilandeubank]

@@tillwill3232 that doesn’t matter though. Watch time may not be constant day to day or whatever, but we have no reason to assume that if there were ZERO reactors, people would magically spend more time on the platform.

[@tillwill3232]

@@reilandeubank well my point was just that u tried to say that when theres no reactors and then you add reactors they are definitely stealing the content producers viewers, which in my opinion can only be said like this if the watch time of all viewers would be a fixed value. But maybe the viewers just spend additional time on youtube, for any different reason possible. Because I dont think watch time is fixed value, it depends on many things. People have a lot more time they could spend on youtube, but doesnt mean they need to spend all of it on youtube and that they spend the same amount each time. But ok doesnt matter, i dont love this reaction culture either. I enjoy watching movie/series reactions from time to time, but people doing nothing else than reacting to other peoples videos I dont find amazing either.

[@reilandeubank]

@@tillwill3232 it seems like we agree but are misunderstanding eachother. I am not saying that watch time is fixed. It is of course always changing, and people have other things they could be doing. However, in the event that someone has 30 minutes to watch KZbin, they may watch a reaction video, but if there were no reactors they would likely still be spending that 30 minutes on KZbin, but instead they’d be presented with original content.

[@AussieBleuu]

No guys you don't understand. When I was reacting to that video of 9/11 and ate chicky noodle soup while my audience spammed "L + ratio" in chat it was only out of love for the victims

[@playpositiv]

I really like how you are still spreading awareness about this, see almost no one else doing this

[@BarthWarth]

Again slick editing and the slot machine anaolgy is good, but I havent heard Nicirt come up since I was recomended his a while before you originally made this video and I havent seen or heard of him since l.

[@DragoonMaster117]

Don't ever stay silent, I know it's a huge burden to bear but the world needs more leveled minds like yourself. Today you might not see the effect you have but years from now people will remember those who drew the line in the sand for everyone else to stand with

[@watema3381]

I love these longer essay-esc videos

[@douglaslopes5913]

These videos are always a treat. The editing too is top notch

[@nuthinnew3881]

Im British and I watch an American couple watch old British tv shows that aired decades ago. I find it amusing when they are trying to figure out our slang or an accent and have come to like them for their personalities and wholesomeness. It is totally just them watching a show one episode at a time and not adding anything to it. The tv show is in a small box at the bottom of the screen and the react cam is fullscreen. I agree with what you say about people who just reupload brand new youtube videos made by teams of people that only get paid by youtube ads. It's totally scummy behaviour. I was just wondering what your opinion is of a Brit watching 2 Americans watch and try to understand our comedy from shows that are decades old.

[@john2300]

I think he's said at some point that he has no problem with people reacting to certain things in certain scenarios, like a song that you can listen to over and over again, or news, i think that would call into this. You've already seen the show, it's old, it wasn't produced by a youtuber with the hopes of it making profits, it already aired and made its money decades ago. The show creators aren't being harmed, but they still have the grounds to copyright strike it, and we couldn't really blame them for that, but i don't see why they would

[@yeetman8831]

@@john2300 thats the same thing reactors say though. It's still not okay at all lol, just because you enjoy watching something. The way it's made can still be shitty. I can find a person watching a bunch of funny moments funny. But it's still really lazy, not creating anything new, and not fair use.

[@john2300]

@@yeetman8831 Yeah like i said if the original show creators found out and wanted to strike it, they could, and we couldn't be mad at that. But i doubt they care.

[@nuthinnew3881]

@@yeetman8831 thats true but it's nowhere near as harmful as uploading a new viral youtube video if the show stopped filming 20 years ago. I forgot to mention some episodes have scenes with music which get edited out, and although that is an acknowledgement to what they are doing, like I say there is little harm.

[@yeetman8831]

@@nuthinnew3881 It does set a president that just sitting on you're ass and watching videos. Then throwing them at the internet. Is a good way to make money/grow etc. Which is argueably harmfull. I don't know what show you're talking about, Even if it's like 60 years old. Now you dont have a reason to seek it out since you watched the entire thing there, Even if you wouldn't have any ways. A reactor reacting to a 2 year old youtube video still takes impressions away from actual creators. And adds absoloutly nothing to it. So it's far more harmfull than it is good in any way.

[@theodordalene438]

Its wierd how everyone was against reacting content back in like 2016 because of jinx reload an the fine brothers. Now most ppl are okay with it wich sucks

[@kookthekid8338]

It’s the type of reaction content. Pewdiepie does it, penguinz does it, everyone has always done it. Dark viper is just brain dead and thinks every reaction is equal when it isn’t. XQC reacting to something from a different room is very different to someone tripling the length of a video with opinions. Also darkviper abuses to copy right system to hide the fact he says slurs or when he gets insulted. He’s pathetic and weak and won’t even stand by what he used to say openly.

[@Unknown_Genius]

Well, people also had been against micro transactions (especially in paid games) around 2008-2012, look at how they're incorporated nowadays in gaming without most people caring about it. You just continue to do it, at some point people don't care anymore. Even worse, they come back either way, just think about the complaining people did each time facebook got hacked and their data leaked in the early 2010s, pretty much everyone came back a week later using it at double the rate each time. Loads of the stuff is covered in double morals either way, I don't even want to know how many people that had been against mtx spend hundreds in it while complaining that it should go and won't work. Same for react content, I'd not be surprised if plenty who had been against it watched it regardless.

[@theodordalene438]

@@Unknown_Genius yea youre making a good point here , but me personally have something against micro transactions as well, since i grew up in a time where if you bought the game you own all content to it. I hate the idea of spending money i a game i already bought

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@theodordalene438 Yup, it makes sense in some cases (e.g. MMOs) to have some form of keeping the servers running. I've long adapted to how it is now and double check if a game is sold as a product or if its licensed and I own nothing (which already dictates if I even would pay anything above 10€ for it) and if it's sold I wait for a huge discount and make up for it by stocking up to the full price by buying a bit in the mtx store if I end up enjoying the game (sometimes even more depending on how much I like it and played it), if it's licensed on the other hand I only stock up to the full price if I really, really enjoyed playing it up to the point that I got multiple hundreds of hours out of it and did at least 2 playthroughs already - so an absolute rare scenario with how long some games are. Given the discounts they make nowadays and how quickly they often happen I honestly think that they even consider making their games free 2 play (so mtx as a means of earning money) but they still know that they can milk that sweet 60-70€ release price out of die hard fans in addition, so they won't do it.

[@BlueDragonKnight77]

Hey I remember that Necrit video, even made a comment on how there was much more to the problem and that anyone interested should just check out your videos on the matter. Keep fighting the good fight

[@benjaminwilson9193]

I wonder if there is a way to update TOS such that you can create a reaction video, but it needs to somehow imbed the original, such that both the algorithm, ad revenue, and so forth are split between the original video and the reaction. Something that recognizes that everyone watching the reaction video is also watching the original.

[@Januaryof28]

Good idea

[@AnacondaHL]

This is all technically feasible, and we know so because it is what the music industry does with KZbin. What is lacking is a political and profit motive for KZbin to institute policies like this.

[@Smileyreal]

revenue should not be split evenly between the reactor and reactee as the person who actually made the video still put in 90% of the effort. Hell, you'd have to hold me at gunpoint before i'd even accept the idea that the reactor deserves a cut.

[@GipsyDanger8934]

I watched so much reaction content without even thinking of the harm it does, when DV started speaking on it a few years ago, I immediately stopped, and now if I see an interesting video someone reacts too, I just go and watch the original video.

[@AnacondaHL]

this is the way!

[@Marcomanexists]

Same, along with commentary channels. I realized I don’t actually care about the content, I just wanted something to play in the background while I did something else.

[@Mmr_mn]

The words, creator and reactor is the perfect way to describe this. Creator, is uniquely made, reactor is using the original word but shuffling it around the bit (both words use the same letters)

[@masterchief9609]

I heard that you might be interested in getting started on covering the controversy surrounding channel known as DanCo. I used to watch some of his content when I was in high school, but I quit because it seemed like he didn’t have anything to contribute beyond what was already said. Seeing as we all allegedly found out why, I would absolutely love it if you covered this topic in-depth.

[@theclownofclowns]

I'm not into GTA at all but I subbed to you way back when you made the last reaction video so I could be right here right now

[@faepx3527]

Your determination to fight the onslaught of people who are convinced that hosting watch parties is good for the original content creator and for KZbin as a whole is admirable. I don't know how you have so much patience to say the same thing over and over again and be antagonized for being right. I know I would've given up on this ages ago if I was in your position.

[@tumypok1011]

Since it's a reupload of the original that i missed Did the nectorine-guy listened or was it the usual defence protocol?

[@tsaker7389]

I really loved the editing on this vid matto

[@Vyalkuran]

I consider reaction content good as long as the person who reacts is related to the topic of their reaction generally in a more professional manner. For example, let's pick a lawyer who watches some documentary of a serial killer. I consider that he is entitled to uploading a reaction video because his content is transformative. He can provide insight most people can't on such a topic. Now pick that same video and show it to xQc. He will just say "ohhh shit that's crazyyyy maaan whaaaaaat", eat and sometimes leave the chair mid reaction. That type of reaction content is definitely not ok. Now, what about more generic content like asmongold's? Well, his main knowledge lies in gaming, and MMORPGs to be more specific. Yes, his opinion brings a valuable perspective on such matters, but if he reacts to some League of Legends content, a game which he never, if barely, played before, then that content is neutral at best. The point is, as long as the reactor is knowledgeable to a more in-depth degree, reaction content is okay. What I consider toxic though even more than reaction videos are sponsorships of products and services they don't fully understand themselves. Last week I saw a reputable tech youtube channel advertise some sort or programming school. For the average viewer, this might even sound like a great opportunity to learn programming. However, the youtuber had no prior knowledge of programming and is unable to accurately assess whether that programming school is actually good or some cheap overpriced scam (which of course, it is). Should you not advertise some VPN just because you don't know how VPNs work? Actually you shouldn't. How can "you", a "insert type of youtuber here" recommend SomeVPN just because "you can watch netflix content from other countries" like come on.

[@AnacondaHL]

that is called commentary, and is content creation. To help with the cause, try to stop using the term React to describe the legitimate use of the content.

[@tnb_jew]

Slot machine IS a great way to make money as long as you are the owner.

[@AnacondaHL]

and now we can hopefully understand why KZbin has zero motivation to stop any of this, especially without any political pushback to actually enforce real Fair Use laws.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@AnacondaHL Well, why precisely would youtube stop it either way? The whole point of the platform always had been that anyone can upload whatever they want unless it's gore, sexual or against any other laws - monetization obviously comes with its own fault, but monetization never had been the idea of the platform to begin with - it only came over time to pay for all the costs hosting videos generates at a benefit for those uploading. The only thing you can blame them for is not paying attention to what some of the creators are doing - then again, I don't really know to what extend given that they need to go out with a profit as well to keep it running and therefor can't hire thousands of people just to manually review every video. No matter how you put it, all of the complaining about youtube ends in the same area either way, it's either too expensive to do proper checks next to overly highly restrictive automatic measures that get bypassed to some degree regardless or legal by law.

[@caelnhonig69420]

4:07 5:25 Legitimately good way to do a reaction. You show some of a video then react in a thought out way that's not a half assed "oh, Cool" with no thoughts. A reaction video is like a sentence recap of a book you read and calling it a book report.

[@AnacondaHL]

start calling this type of reaction "commentary content" or something else. It's time to start separating the terminology so that React Reuploaders can no longer use these legitimacy shields for justification of their garbage.

[@exilemage2024]

i miss these videos! i subbed for this! you inspired me to start my channel.. i need more inspiration for raage.

[@tomdcamp]

What are those cloth things on your arms?

[@notrealkhris]

someone tell the Disney guy that Matto is moving up in the world. He finally, thanks to our support, can afford sleeves.

[@WUTANGCLAN705]

Those are armpit protectors. They also help showing the lack of muscle.

[@littleone970]

I can't believe you have to explain yourself on this topic still. Every video is extremely well explained, yet there are still people that don't understand (never watched). Hope everyone is doing well

[@Deceit-hx7ey]

I think it's not that they don't understand, it's that they don't want to accept that it's just wrong.

[@littleone970]

Watched this for the second time in full now whoops! Not sad

[@potatosordfighter666]

It would be cool if someone could make an addon/extension for chrome and firefox that could filter reacts in recommendations, so that when you get recommended a react video it replaces it with the original video instead. I don't know anything about coding, but if it could be done that would be the best addon ever.

[@ghxst1999]

Crazy how much better I got debating and statics from watching matto go on about react content

[@triemond9961]

I'm rewatching this mainly for boosting this in the algorithm as I have already seen this...

[@hoodieddespair]

Same.

[@Vito-jr9wl]

Vast majority of reaction Videos are not enhancing the Material in any significant way and are therefore redundant. But I have seen some interesting examples of informative reaction content, for example Video Game Developers reaction to speedruns of their Games or communication experts to political debates. So usualy If the reactor itself is an expert in the field of the content they are reacting to.

[@RandomBoi-nd5zf]

I think those kinds of reactions are good, they add some interesting thoughts, processes and are generally informative that expands beyond the video they're reacting to. Infinitely better than those that only goes " 😮 😐 🪑🙀 😂 🤬 😐 "

[@valdemartomlinson]

I will agree they are far better then some guy or gal just watching whatever is in front of them at the time, but even then reaction videos as are most commenly seen (Watching the hole with no editing) is still bad, its bloated and overly uses another person content, even if you belive that everything commented on in the video was great i still belive you would agree editing for the sake of getting rid of dead air time would make it better.

[@dirty_mac]

Matto has addressed this, where if the content is one you contributed towards, like if you made the game or if you're part of the game's speedrunning community (helped developed strats and so on) you can react to it since you put in effort to make it possible

[@JonstoneMCF]

@@RandomBoi-nd5zf it doesn't make it cause less harm tho

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@JonstoneMCF It literally does. That's the point. WHEN A VIDEO IS TRANSFORMATIVE AND ADDS CONTENT WITHOUT DETRACTING FROM THE SOURCE, NO HARM IS DONE. How is this so goddamn hard to understand?

[@lechoro5229]

I want to add anectodal proof countering the argument "people watch reactors for the reactor, not the topic". Fun fact: youtube will recommend reactions about the topics YOU LIKE, I like to listen to videos of crime cases, lolcows and commentary channels, so youtube once recommended me a reaction to a video critique to a controversial youtuber so I watched it. Days later, youtube recommended to me the original video, but I felt great resistance over watching it because I said to myself "I already watched it on x reactor's video". Clearly my experience is not unique, so I lived in first person the damage reaction content causes

[@ethanlollie]

16:15 i feel like im in a gran turismo lobby the music is so good 😂

[@DivyanshBalchandani]

I'd say don't re-release it. These people aren't worth the effort Matt. I know you hate misinformation and misrepresentation of you or your work floating about, but you'll be playing whack-a-mole for the rest of your life unless you stop on your own accord. I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do.

[@SparedHawk]

Appeal to futility fallacy

[@DivyanshBalchandani]

@@SparedHawk Well, he was asking whether he should release it or not and I said my piece. It's his channel after all, he can do what he likes.

[@Wnuzel]

@@SparedHawkDebate bro fails to engage in a conversation

[@DumbArse]

I watched every other video in the series but never even seen this in my feed :) Happy that he reuploaded so I can see it and I'm sure many more are in the same shoe

[@EasyBakedTroy1365]

@@SparedHawkbro recently watched The Paint Explainer’s Fallacies video

[@anteshell]

I was wondering that this sounds familiar..... and it's a re-upload. Did not want to watch it again, but nevertheless left it playing while doing other things because it's a great video and deserves the sacrifice of my bandwidth for the algorithm gods. More over, deserves to be watched as many people as possible.

[@TheSmmp1]

Hey Matto, do you have an opinion in regard to games as a service? Have you seen Accursed farms campain? I think you should check that topic, you must have at least an interesting opinion about it

[@JollyRanchersGrandma]

My recommendations throughout the pandemic got enamored with reaction content. So glad I was able to recognize a year and a bit ago that I should be better, I don't think I've seen a reaction video in ages

[@LazerBeam69]

man finally the old youtube UI is back

[@kcscustom9759]

Nice work Matto! Doing gods work here. I’ve watched every one of your videos on this subject and I gotta say this one is probably one of the best to explain the subject to those who know nothing about it. And hence will likely be the video I now share with folks that need this kind of education. Because even though I completely understand the harm of reaction content I can’t explain it nearly as well as you have here.

[@queefyg490]

I'm only a third of the way into the video and I agree with you. This guy seems to care more about how an individual is effected rather than the entire system. You could add this to the slot machine analogy by adding a method to improve your personal odds at the expense to others, which is pretty much equivalent to fishing for reactors to find your videos in the video market.

[@Papa_Klaw]

Ahhh yes, the human centipede oh content. Gotta love it. I think the only time react content makes sense is if it's an indepth critique on another video/person, because then you are adding a substantial amount of work on your end to debunk or point out flaws in those videos/people. A good example of this is this exact video here by DarkviperAU.

[@airdel8380]

Just curious what happened to the video you put out of the channel calling you a “professional victim”

[@FumoCore6FiresofReiuji]

Believe he mentioned this near the end of the lastest Rambles

[@BritishPoetic]

He replied to it in comments and he said he’s not responding to any random people anymore and would only bother to if they had 150k views+

[@ryanduffy2152]

@@BritishPoetic hopefully that isn't true, doesn't exactly make him sound the best. Your opinion is not worthy to me unless you have over 150k+ views

[@airdel8380]

@@FumoCore6FiresofReiuji I watched the rambles, I heard him talking about personal safety for him and others, thank you for the info

[@BritishPoetic]

@@ryanduffy2152 he said respond. Not acknowledge. Obviously he’s not gonna reply to some guy with a low amount of views calling him out. Otherwise he would have hundreds of videos to make.

[@adamcummings20]

It's good to see you stick this battle out, your direct and honest attitude and action towards genuine problems, instead of tolerating then forgetting, is really refreshing. Seeing some anaemic streamer rotting behind a PC 12 hours a day rebroadcasting small channels' content sucks, and I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't gone on this tirade (tirade in a good way) ;) All the best

[@giga_gecko]

You need to add this video to your react playlist, i almost missed it

[@ItzMuff1n]

creators should strike content farms and take the money.

[@JoeTheLion26]

So does this mean you can finally wash the shirt?

[@ismaelsanchez2775]

Odd question but would the system change if they were a way for them to identify the original source and immediately give cash to the original source ( they watch 100% of mi video I get 100% of the profits or in the case of compilation videos split profit assuming there was a way to implement this idea I don’t think reactors would even exist even if they only got a cut of 10 % for the 10% of the screen there faces covered).

[@slash4660]

Its still lazy to react. It could take someone like lemino months and months of hard work, researching, writing, scripting, fact checking, animating, money, paying other to help with the video, time, etc. To make a single video whereas a reactor doesnt even put in a fraction of the time or effort to react to the video then reuploading it in its entirety.

[@Tridundancy]

Does anyone know where Matto got his shirt? I love it. Looks like the Aroura Borealis

[@SnugWugs137]

The audacity to reupload a video I didn't get to watch at the time. But, it is crazy to think that a creator whose content is getting stolen by a reaction channel is actively defending that channel. Major coping.

[@FranciscoFloresNyu]

Doesn't that creator have more context of it if he has been affected and his opinion have more weight that Matt's?

[@SnugWugs137]

@@FranciscoFloresNyu no.

[@lurkingintheforest]

I personally feel like this guy is doing this to get into reaction channels good graces. He admitted before he does certain things for reaction channels, I feel like he’s doing this to kiss their ass so they can think “he’s one of the good ones” and watch his vids more. I don’t mean to be presumptuous but this dude seems like the kind of person to kiss ass to get ahead over other people.

[@jessemartinez9158]

@@SnugWugs137 ya how dare someone make up their own mind. they should just let some random person who has no insight into their personal lives to tell them what is best for them instead!

[@SnugWugs137]

@@jessemartinez9158 literally yeah, I will. Bro is wrong, and as long as he continues to stay wrong, I will point it out and laugh at him.

[@jacobm9263]

I still hate that people dont understand this. I hate that you have to explain it over and over again. I wish i had your platform, as im still trying to explain all of this to people. People are brainwashed to think this is all okay

[@jayysenseii8345]

It isn’t u can’t concretely prove that reaction content is stealing views from the video. U don’t like reaction content so u don’t know how the mind of someone that likes reaction content works. We watch the reaction content not for the video per se but for said persons thoughts on the video. If your adding intriguing dialogue & thoughts I’m all for it but if you’re just sitting there saying “oh wow” “that’s crazy” every minute or so then your stealing & im against that. Hence why I don’t like reaction streamers like xqc or Hassan

[@jacobm9263]

@jayysenseii8345 but they don't have to re-upload the whole video to share their thoughts. There is nothing wrong with a response video, where you mention certain topics or show clips. It's kinda like what matto does.

[@ZuluZizo]

@@jayysenseii8345 They could just IRL stream at a movie theater and give their 'opinion' (which is always utter unicorn-shiz), since it is "fair use" to them lul

[@WUTANGCLAN705]

How is he a creator? He plays a game 180 million people have played. He has the same reaction everyone has. He doesn't create anything. If asmingold reacts to something someone else created, how is DVau any different from reacting to someone else.

[@joedav67]

@@WUTANGCLAN705so when I transcribe someone's words, I'm just reacting to what they are saying?

[@OfficiallySweaty]

I clicked on a video today and it had a good thumbnail and a good title. It was something about Diddy. I was like ohh this is about to be a deep dive into something I heard about but don’t know about. It was a reaction video and a minute in the “creator” said like 10 words over a video. 😭

[@AndersHass]

I wonder if the segment about Asmondgold’s old content got changed a bit. I remember commenting on the old video that he has gameplay videos on his react channel, lol.

[@Fayaaz_zz]

SLOTS ARE RIGGED My apologies for coming an hour late

[@Unknown_Genius]

They're not, your chances to win are just so unlikely that trying it already is a dumb idea. Same with lootboxes in games, where some people somehow think that an item with a 1% drop chance will magically drop when they open box number 100. And those got better odds than slots because it's a 1 in 100 Chance usually (so you're somewhat likely to get it when opening 100 boxes, with almost certainty at around 250 boxes, which still isn't a guarantee), on most slots you're playing with 1 in 5000 chances, some even go into 1 to millions while some rare ones got you covered with "only" in the 1 in 1000 range - or in other words: If you ever opened lootboxes in games that give you higher chances (e.g. 5% for the best item) you already know how screwed you are when playing slots. They solely work because people think that they potentially could earn big - blinking lights and noises (which also come on small wins) do the rest for addictive behavior, which ironically enough is the reason why almost every shooter nowadays presents you with level up animations and points for kills/objectives/supporting on the screen. Funnily enough the reason for having unlimited levels nowadays is the same - people literally got bored of games when they reached max level 15 years ago because they didn't get any more level ups (and therefor reward), which should tell you a lot about the majority of players. To make it even more funny: It's precisely how battlepasses work, people not only willingly pay to work for something they spend money on, they also need that reason to play the game, so devs essentially earn money by giving players tasks they have to complete and blinking lights for skins they'd have sold for the same price otherwise, while being able to make other mtx like additional skins more expensive for even more cash. Think about it for a second, because that's how a single casino game (and its tricks) has affected the entire gaming industry at the end of the day to keep players motivated and play the game (more importantly: spend more money on it) which otherwise wouldn't even enjoy playing the game and possibly would've even refunded the product after an hour.

[@Andy-mt9pl]

I think you're just preaching to the choir at this point. I don't think there's that many people that you haven't convinced yet about this topic. The people who still disagree will just never hear you out in the first place.

[@user-uv2cp1qd1j]

Try sorting by new on this video. There are people just being intentionally disagreeable sure, but a lot of people going "nuh uh reaction videos are good bc of X reason..."

[@chef_siege5367]

I think a great example of “proper” react content is wendigoon. He explicitly does not do videos on his main channel unless he can provide a transformative experience. However on a second channel, which people must seek out directly if they like him specifically he will often watch analog horror series. He can been as an expert in this space due to his experience, and knows to do things such as checking subtitles, replaying, and checking the description for other information. Even when the content is not transformative he is still providing the viewer with value, by making the experience more navigable

[@mordykey]

Here ist my Reaction to your Video: Regular watchers know your opinion about reaction-content. But if we take the title of your video, at least for me signal a "neutral" start into the topic. So i personally think the part "The Reaction Content Scheme" belongs further back. (But i guess not a lot people watch videos until the end) And the way you formulate certain thing (again thinking in relation to the title) could be more neutral (e.g. around 4:40 "steal anything moderately successful...", "prosperity trickles down...") I think comparison to gambling is fitting, but it is strange how you avoid saying that the house "always" wins. In my opinion it is fitting to your comparison between creators and reactor at 4:48. I'm assuming that min max view time would lead to basically no "need" for original content. The algorithm is supporting your viewing behavior. So it would support you in consuming the most possible amount of content. Since Reactor Content is "double" the content (original & reactor). You would only watch reactor content. Since if you watch e.g. Asmongold more often, you should also get more recommendation for similar content. And the need to identify yourself with a group of similar "opinions" (used loosely. Can be in relation with politics). Could lead/is leading to an algorithms driven one-sided information environment(s). (filter bubble) This Point was, in my opinion missing, in the part “What are Reactor”. Since you take Necrit's sentence at 4:09 and take just throw the opinion part out of the windows. I’m gonna stop here. Since I’m not an English native speaker and I realized my understanding of spoken/written English is much better that my ability to put my opinion in written form. So it took some time to write this. I hope that it was at least somewhat understandable. I probably have to speak/write much more in English. I took much to long to find the fitting words, so i could not spend the time to put my thought process into words.

[@jihadpromax3520]

Asmongold will not be spared by the revolution

[@Marcomanexists]

Before I watched your critiques on reaction videos I wasn’t even thinking about how they impact creators. Now that it’s been brought to my attention I make a conscious effort to avoid them at all costs. Drama channels too. You’ve really opened a lot of people’s eyes in regards to this subject. Good and noble work

[@kool56decsec53]

I understand and completely agree with most of your points, but I Never watched a single video from the algorithm without doing a ton of research into that creator or that Pacific video. I mostly stick to the same creators. And then if that creator leaves or stops making good content, then I find another creator that's doing the exact same or very similar to what I like about the first one 😊

[@wolowolo6179]

Recently I remembered Mr.Beast had a reaction channel. in the name of curiosity, I wanted to check it out to see how he does it. Honestly, he kinda got my respect. Most of his reactions are to videos specifically made and edited for him to react to. Biggest creator on the platform and probably one of the busiest guys to ever exist and he was making the most ethical reactions you can from the get go. A guy who seemingly dedicated his life to channel growth still took the time to curate and create his own content to react to. I mean, no one has ever accused him of being a lazy guy, but if he can do it everyone else can too.

[@foxtrotalphagolfgolfoskart3224]

On of the few yt creators with backbone and morals.

[@welheizel9682]

Shouldn't repost, like you always say, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't force him to drink" People who know it's bad but still do it simply don't care, people who don't care won't watch anything informative or be willing to stop watching reactors, i can see this video being as effective as linking the original react series on community posts. Reposting this would just harm the channel really

[@CIavis]

Finally, I can stop rewatching the older videos in this saga. I KNEW THE INTRO WAS TOO FAMILIAR :(

[@thedoomedrei]

Hell yeah new addition to the series (even though it's just a reupload)

[@JonahLaining]

What if we just mass report reaction channels?

[@1nchwonder290]

Great video can't stand reactors

[@Knerdd]

Please make a video about the Danco situation Matto, more light needs to be shed on this because the guy just keeps getting away with stealing content day in and day out. He's legitimately using Christianity as a means of deflection while completely denying all of his scumbaggy actions, it's just beyond pathetic at this point

[@187producedit]

i feel as if the light reflecting from above your face, rather than below it, would be a lot better visually, just a small thing i noticed, loved the video though! as usual you did an amazing job with your topics and rebuttals.

[@187producedit]

i see this is a reupload, ignore me haha, much love!

[@SpeckObstStream]

Me: I wonder what the weirdest hill to die on is DarkViper: Got you fam

[@digl_live]

Recently my video was reacted to for the first time in my "career" and it was very fun to watch that reaction. I asked the person to delete it and he quickly complied, but I now understand how content creators would find it fun to see someone react to their video. Like if that whole reaction was made specifically for me, it would be very cool to see. So if you don't think about the implications of that reaction competing with your original video or it's influence on the market, it's understandable why creators find it cool that people are reacting to their stuff.

[@Lt_Koro]

the reaction isnt competing with your original video. its competing with all of your videos.

[@digl_live]

@@Lt_Koro it competes directly with the original video, since it contains the entirety of it. And indirectly it competes with the entire market, not just my videos, which is why I said "it's influence on the market"

[@Lt_Koro]

@@digl_live oh yea for sure. my reading comprehension takes a bit of a break sometimes lol

[@limez_f1885]

15:44 NOT THE GRAN TURISMO 5 MUSIC 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CalvinMcMurray]

Literally the first reccomended video next to this is a react video of a fallout speedrun lmao

[@nicktyrin4401]

Get 'em Matto 💪💪💪

[@bruhmomento7425]

asmongold is youtuber colonialism

[@Marksman560]

Matt, I do wonder, if Asmon meant the sentences he said, the way you interpreted it. Maybe it was better to ask him about it. Nonetheless a great video. Hope Necrit learns a thing or two from it, hehe.

[@Yorick257]

16:00 Now that I think about it, his test DOES make sense and it's actually pretty good. The conclusions were bad, but the test does show us something interesting. The number of views on the reaction video is an **indicator** of how successful the original video was. It's like in games, where the health bar is proportional to the health points. But unlike other indicators (likes, shares, etc.), it's competing for the same resources

[@VulKus117]

Why defend them? “We’ve got to have… moneyyyy!”

[@BRIANNA_00]

A BIT SUSSY

[@aceaj2620]

5:11 I don’t know why that made me laugh so much. The perfect clip here

[@lieutenantkleeia]

What do you think of reactors who only react to movies and TV series? I kinda like them, feels like watching something with your friends.

[@Bonehead47]

at least make a new video man. you continue to make yourself look silly trying to spread awareness about an actual issue. to the extent of just reuploading an old video covering it which is in essence the same as react content cuz youre making money off already produced content. pretty silly.

[@yungjiggamayne2262]

Dude, if Turkey Tom calls you a schizoid, that should be enough proof that you are indeed a schizoid. That's like if einstein called you smart. You just take the expert's word

[@Chadric14]

Who?

[@bmz4]

people with PDs diagnosing others with PDs is the biggest meme in the PD demographic. I'm also cluster a, I would know.

[@yungjiggamayne2262]

@devmastere I feel like you not only missed the joke, but also came up with your own context for the sake of your argument. Turkey Tom is a delusional weirdo, so is this darkviper guy. Simple as

[@yungjiggamayne2262]

@devmastere I did, you're clearly unaware of DV's massive ongoing beef with EVERYONE. I'll say it clearer for you to understand it, my comment had literally nothing to do with the video. I just wanted to insult DarkViper

[@slash4660]

My favourite type of comment. Insulting someone's character so i dont have to address a single one of their arguments.

[@irtimid4217]

Creators producing their own stuff... , rich people stealing it and getting richer... , because of that creators get less money... , there should be only creators...| reminds me of something ✯☭ and I am completely for it! It's time for a revolution of youtube.

[@brianjordan9446]

What if you got a view for reach reactor's view and their "view" only counted as like 1/2 or 1/3 as far as monetization is concerned? A new category of content can be created for this, with a single check box and URL field added to an upload form, having uses signal that they are reacting to a video and to link the original content. Then it would be super easy to enforce a rule that any reaction content on the platform, in any form at all, must follow this system or be immediately banned and any earnings from it shall be either rescinded or held out of future earnings until balance is satisfied (and ideally, original content created is compensated with these withheld earnings). I think there's a way to do it that makes sense, and money, for both the content creator and the reactor.

[@brianjordan9446]

​@devmastere they DO have an incentive to do this, especially KZbin. Content creators will just leave for platforms that support them more, or go behind paywalls which is bad for everyone. It would be a nightmare for KZbin if this were to happen, for how large they are, they are not as profitable as people think. Losing their larger content creators over reaction content would be a massive blow and would likely see Google sell YT off. KZbin is not just a social network like Facebook or Twitter. This has a domino effect. Fleeing content creators mean less viewers of that original content. This also means less reactors, and those viewers go away too. The cycle will feed itself, spread to other verticals of content on YT, and would become very, very difficult to stop. Additionally, if YT were to start losing money like this, you'd see them start taking pretty dramatic steps to become profitable again ... and that likely involves paywalls, more ads, and more invasiveness like other platforms. There's way to do this where both sides earn what they're supposed to (creators more, reactors less but not nothing) and no one has to leave the platform due to inaction or all their content profits being siphoned off.

[@JasonMaloneStan]

Day 1054 of asking DarkviperAU to play GTA Chinatown Wars.

[@nessunolinux]

For someone who complains about react content so much, you sure spend a lot of your time reacting to other people's content.

[@joedav67]

Matt: "react content is when someone shows the entirety of someone else's work". Tell me when he's done that?

[@LivingbyHatred]

​@@joedav67dont bother these guys are sad anyway with their simple deconstructable arguments and pathetic childish insults.

[@fourtyseven47572]

If a video is 10 minutes long, and I watch the entire thing but my reaction is 1 hour, how is that not transformative? How much of the video you watch is irrelevant

[@joedav67]

⁠​⁠@@fourtyseven47572actually how much of the original work is included is one of the four factors to determine fair use. You didn't transform the content of the video, it's still the same video.

[@fourtyseven47572]

@@joedav67 You guys say this like its been cemented in law completely. Most of this stuff hasnt been tried and tested in court. If I watch an entire 10 minute video, and my reaction makes it 1 hour, that is obviously a transformation, and I guarantee a judge would agree, unless you have a court case saying otherwise. Theres no logical argument to say that wouldnt be transformative. Like you said thats ONE factor to fair use, its not the end all be all like you guys make it seem.