Why do we fight mid at level 1 and how do we abuse it?

Fighting Mid is something we all do without thinking these days so why do we fight mid?
Pros fight mid because they want to stay groupped and be in the middle of the map to prevent enemies from cheesing towers or to prevent enemies from hiding and trying to flank. Groupping also allows kills during enemy rotations.
Otherwise there are 3 things you should look for in fighting at level one.
1: Do you have quests with high value to complete early. Some quests can get a lot of stacks mid and those stacks can be the difference of the lane.
2: Does your team have an early combo like a hook that can lead to an early kill?
3: Does your team have a weak level one with maybe a varian? Or a strong level one with a tracer?
Taking those 3 things into consideration the value of simply soaking lanes is worth more than a couple kills. So If the enemies have more quests, more kill potential and/or a stronger level 1 you may just want to soak instead of fighting mid.
Also I talk a bit about The Art of War and Social Cognitive Theory.

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Came in for hots tips , stayed for ancient Chinese wisdom

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[@rock1710]

At this point is more like a tradition

[@ViolosD2I]

Traditioooooon!

[@NCMonefaith]

And we must honor tradition

[@mmelkilany]

To ask why we fight . is to ask why leaves fall

[@winterhear]

then you should learn english :) mmelkilany wrote it right ;)

[@sEaNoYeAh]

So we fight coz Newton invented gravity...

[@paule.2687]

because it's in their nature

[@Crewit]

"invented gravity" LUL must be american.

[@mikelamb2504]

@@sEaNoYeAh what a sentence

[@ProtonCannon]

Early game tips, first always say hi to your team to break the ice of silence and wake them up from their "routine game start" mindset, they could have had a bad loss in their last game and still be annoyed about it. Next tell, your team if you have go ta plan or ask if they have a plan even if you are just with randoms like "I'll go for this camp *ping camp* before obj event happens, need one to help out." This way you are not ordering them what to do so you are not bossing them and maybe hurting their ego, just tell them what to expect. If it is QM it is probably even more important for example "I'll take bot will Murky take top?" or "Watch out guys their team is really dive heavy play safe!" or "Watch out, this is a premade team so don't charge int them." Just so that their thinking does not get locked down into fighting with the other team for too long. We all know this weird feeling when we see the enemy suddenly dropping on health and the taste for blood fills our minds and we want that kill no matter what and even after we got the kill or the enemy got away we still get stuck in this bloodlusted mindset and loosing our grip on the macro game for a long time. I mean I know it is different for everyone but I can personally say I often fell into this trap but just calling out will help us stay on the top of things. Let us face it, most of us fight at level one in the midlane for the fun of it, I know I am. xD

[@Ascension1776]

High quality comment.

[@ArjanL1979]

Could not have said it better myself. Hear hear!

[@affinity3281]

Now i have to reread Art of War and apply all the principles to become rank 1.

[@Jebu911]

Interestingly you can apply a lot of Sun Tzu quotes to strategy games like mobas.

[@spacemonkeyentertainment6413]

Go mid when you have quests you want to complete... unless it's the Win 3 games quest, then don't ! ;-)

[@astral935]

lol ttrruueeeee

[@NanocDark99]

Thats a really good one :)

[@Shahorable]

Educational content we need more in HotS. Keep doing what you're doing, man!

[@roenen1]

Absolutely love your videos my man. You explain the things that actually matter towards becoming a better player. Keep up the great work

[@58isaac58]

I've just discovered your channel and I'm already loving it, my favorite hots channel nowdays. Keep it up, man!

[@nuggitz4011]

Really enjoyed this one a lot. Some of it I knew, but there was definitely a few points I hadn't thought about it. Love the psychology tie in as always and a little "art of war" is always awesome. Sun Tzu was way ahead of his time when it came to military tactics and psychological warfare.

[@marcklein4198]

Hots is the only Game I play constantly and ur Chanel gets me were others only present new heroes or play their matches. Thanks for that and go on with the good work. Greatings from Germany (reason for my shitty english)

[@vancruising]

Rehgar flip

[@Quicksilvir]

I remember when me and me brother started playing, we would spread among three lanes. Then enemy teams would stack mid and kill then, so we started stacking mid to avoid that. A bit different than your hypothesis but quite similar. We adopted a successful strategy to avoid being defeated by it. Looking forward to applying your tips in game

[@Sticle]

What strategy do you use to avoid being defeated?

[@wilkinru]

I like your hide in the bush strat and that sounds strong. I have been doing something similar with Sonya. I'll clear the wave as fast as possible and then move on the enemy side and where I expect the rotation to come from. Yes I'm just expecting 1 person to be walking up. I don't hide and try to spear them. I really just want to slow them down to allow my wave to crash into the wall. This seems to work every single game and it's a nice little +1 wave to start the match. I can even clear the mid wave before moving up. People are that slow to rotate.

[@shiaeliminator6484]

Some people take for ever to rotate, but I came from lol where rotations had to be fast, so I aply it in hots everytime.

[@maxi.the.1st343]

1. I like really how you speak. I am germany and its not always easy if people starts talking with "gamer language" + english. You really explain it in a way I really can understand. Thanks! 2. The way and examples you use is also good. Not to much of details or things around which could confuse. In other words, beginner have the chance to get what you want. and finally: 3. The questions you set at every point. It seems like a small thing but helps to request myself. The answer can be so easy. + the one or another extra strat you give away is really helpful. Keep up.

[@Jonas_Fox]

Been playing the game since beta. Still learning every day from this game. Not only about strategy, but people. Absolutely love your content brutha :gfistbump:

[@jellyorwhat3343]

Some tip to add about checking enemy team for quests. I usually pick first talent as late as possible to give enemy the least information. Apparently it's not necessarily overthinking. :)

[@ajp4220]

Found this late but great topic. Since I mainly play QM and HL with strangers, I use the mid fight to assess and sync up with my teammates in terms of positioning, etc. It can be a good preview for later team fights and gives you a chance to make adjustments for when it really matters.

[@richardadams8036]

I love these mid Fights, but damn some People are realy addicted to them. Even when i got Bot from the beginning and type in Chat "Dont go Mid, so we dont give Azmo and Kael Stacks" and pinging Retreat after they still go mid as 4. It ends with 2 Kills for the other Team and some nice Stacks for Azmo and Kael. Its super fun to start with lvl1 against lvl2 in the solo lane.

[@NotParadox]

Yeah my hope is enough people watch this and start doing it that eventually those who don't watch this learn from those who do watch this.

[@richardadams8036]

I realy like your approach of "One little Thing for each Video". The little things are so important and will help you climb in Ranks or getting better overall. I was stuck in high Plat for 3 Seasons and my biggest Problems were. Tunnelvision in Teamfights (i mostly play Tanks but i just went chasing someone insted of peeling). Not using the Minimap (i got caught so often by Rotatios). Playing too many different Heroes (i even picked someone like Tyrael when someone asked in Draft, even if i havent played him for Month). So i fixed all 3 Problems one after another, by train myself to use the Minmap every 20 Seconds in 10 Matches straight and repeat that the next Day. Now it feels normal to me and i facepalm everytime when someone get caught by an super obvious rotation (like me half a Year ago^^). I focused on 3 Main Tanks, which improved my Winrate on them and of course my Winrate overall. And by playing the Shit out of the ARAM Brawls i got much better in Teamfights and lost the Habbit to Tunnelvision. These "small" things helped me to climb from Plat1 to Master after 2 Seasons.

[@wyteboimagik]

Honestly, in situations like that, where 4 teammates make a decision different from your own, whether it be right/wrong, I've learned that just doing what your team wants to do can make a bad outcome less severe, or somehow turn into a favorable one.

[@christianrasmussen528]

Yeah, it really feels counterintuitive, but often it really is better to have 5 people doing it wrong than 4 people doing it wrong and 1 doing it right, because at least it'll mean you're able to help your team while they're doing silly stuff (and then you can always point it out afterwards if you think they'll listen ;)

[@yoannyo913]

I found people generally will respond well to 'aggressive' calls (fight/gank) and ignore 'passive' calls (lets soak/give objective). Makes me believe most people prefer to win the game solo rather than as a team.

[@jackadler7924]

nice video man! Keep up the good work!

[@patrickdavis1463]

Well done! I wish more players new the reason for doing things instead of following what they "think" they should be doing.

[@AmodeusR]

When I used to play HoTS everyone would go randomly to a route. When I came back to play a while ago I saw everyone going mid without understanding why, so I just started going mid as well xd This video helped me for sure to understand better it. Thanks :P

[@zrokeach1]

Awesome video! Would you consider uploading some of your full games??

[@Lovehandels]

One of the things I read is to ask which group has the most lockdown at level one and that has saved my team many a 5 man mid fail at the beginning of the match and has led to some good level one mid lane kills as well but the thing about quest is pretty important too so thank you very much for that advice!

[@bbdman11]

Loved the vid Keep up the good work

[@swimmerfish34]

Lol thinking about those people who say "gg" after one early game death. Usually end up winning anyway. Love your vids btw, keep it up!

[@Jonas_Fox]

Another effect of the opening fight is really testing your team. It's almost like a group job interview where we get to see who does what well. This opening mid fight can also act as a moral booster or deflater. I think this is more of a temporary effect though.

[@mauriciomercadoa.4944]

Awesome channel, good tips and great strategies

[@raynhornzxz]

thanks for these videos. im really learning alot about strategy.

[@TheIllio]

I think a lot of people do it because they simply enjoy playing the game against other players. A teamfight is always fun, even at lvl 1. So if you are not one of those people that want to be the very best, but simply enjoy the game, imo it's alright to fight at lvl 1 for one minion wave and then split up. Not everyone wants to play on a high level, as it takes a lot more concentration and can be really stressful. Anyone who wants to relax simply enjoys playing the game while trying to win without trying to play at his best. So if you are talking about hero league, then the question is a good one, but for quickmatch or unranked, I prefer to let people play whatever they want if they do it with a positive thought in mind.

[@footsteps2179]

Great video, subscribed!

[@thefigura]

There is a very important reason pros fight in the middle that was not covered by the video. I would say it is more important the other reason provide, although it is map dependant (and not a factor on this particular map). Pros Fight middle to be ahead in clearing waves on maps where you rotate with a 4 man group to clear waves (tomb of the spider queen is a good example). You fight middle to push the enemy team back to be able to clear the mid lane minions before your enemy so that you are ahead in the rotation. That means you will always be ahead on exp which means you have the advantage during objectives.

[@Robert-un3cf]

Came here to say this. Clearing first mid wave and possibly getting a kill leads to rotation advantage, big deal.

[@MaxCBPCenter]

Thank you. Great video. I would it be interested what you have to say to the topping of when to stop laining. I am under the impression that the pros almost always come to a point were the laining part of the came is just something you do quickly in between when you are near by anyway

[@LaurenWu]

Another great video! I'd like to know when you should fast clear a lane vs hiding in a bush to let the minions kill each other to prevent the enemy from getting soak. Also, what people mean by "freezing a lane" and when doing that is useful.

[@NotParadox]

Fast clear vs hiding is situational. How fast can the enemies rotate? Have they notices your team is missing people? I find if the enemies don't know you are not there, meaning 5 are still trying to fight, I hide. If my team is getting kills I know the enemies are going to rotate so I hard push so they lose. An easier way to see is if there is a fight going mid, you push hard, if it's just poking back and forth, hide. Freezing the lane means to let the enemy wave not reach your tower when pushing and instead tank it so it doesn't die to towers. Then when your wave reaches the frozen wave it will have to fight those then the new enemy wave keeping the entire wave on your side. This is beneficial for scary heroes like Garrosh who wants the enemies to get closer so you can throw. Freezing lane can zone the enemies out of experience pretty well with the right people.

[@timbrown6457]

Just hide in a bush the whole game and get that stealth xp

[@Jonas_Fox]

Freezing means getting your minions to pile up at one point in the battlefield. You can accomplish this by either killing the front three minions or by killing the back four minions. If you want to push, take out the back four only.

[@bbonkers6083]

On alot of maps like dragonshire or tomb, teams will make a 4 man that rotates through two lanes. Teams often fight as 5 so that they have the highest chance of clearing their minions faster, so that they can rotate faster. the team that is ahead on rotations controls the bushes/ mid area, so can clear more efficiently, and can use this pressure to get siege dmg or create space to cap mercs.

[@PollameWazzaaaay]

Starting middle in lower hero league rank: imho you want to go middle also to give your team a head start: if you get a kill your team will start already feel the winning mood while the other team might start blame each other since minute 0:30 ;)

[@PollameWazzaaaay]

Attitude (trolls, trowers, akfers, toxicity, know-it-all) is disastrous on lower ranks

[@WaitingForStorm]

but what if they get the first kill

[@ivangood7121]

I feel like this would be a great metal song "Why do we fight at level 1?"

[@swimmerfish34]

Ivan good album title, 'Mid Fight in the Dragon Shire'

[@tjwatts1207]

I was thinking about this today. I would like to see some kind of graphic showing Hero's power spikes and drop offs. Would be helpful to have a reference for drafting

[@deathmetaljohny]

art of war the best book to read for every situation in your hole life !!!

[@POOH_LY]

Oh thanks, I have been wondering this for a long time... I don't understand that, so I usually split and soak. I ping to warn my team every time that I am not there, but they still usually have a 4 vs 5 fight and end up loosing someone. Anyway, I am just a casual player.

[@everbard3071]

Weird, I had a game earlier today against a Medivh. I pinged retreat on mid lane and said, “Don’t let Medivh stack.” Yay me!

[@unclemongrel-setsailforfai6147]

Hey man - new 2 ur channel, and I already love it! U speak shortly about dooing a list of "Earlygame vs lategame" heroes - And I think it would be a great idea! Everybody is dooing the "new patch" and the common "tier list" for overall strenghts of the heroes, but no1 seems to be dooing the Early/lategame thingy...-U might be the first one on this one? Cheers!

[@bigmayhem9281]

A gamer who reads. Kudos! nice video

[@Judawi]

You get more xp from soaking unless they rotate before your minions die on their turrets right ?

[@theunderdog88]

i play main naz , most of the time i go mid for q and split up or down depending on map when minion waves are in the lanes if that makes sence .

[@cheers901]

a quick run over who has a strong lvl 1 would be cool

[@Dorkster81]

Derno if you’ll see this, do u play with fans? Stream?

[@nyghost9991]

great VIDEO

[@Jyeoi]

When theres no enemy laner, i choose to kill the wave super fast so my wave reaches the towers faster, dies faster, and the xp globes fade out before the enemy laner has time to arrive.

[@sylpheed17]

I do this to get a feel on how bad or good the enemy team is. Aside from quest and stuff of course.

[@briarbehr]

My thing is always be doing something to get Xp. Soak a lane. Soak a different lane, go back to your original lane, then camp if you’re able to. Rinse repeat. Show up for team fights and dominate with your higher level tiers.

[@RealGamingKnowledge]

The other reason to fight mid is to create some space. Mid minion wave comes faster, so by killing it u can get map control (break their rotation, bully etc.)

[@benallmon5613]

I love playing Zul and always go Bot or top right away, as soaking always seems more important. It never made sense why everyone went mid. I always guessed it was to try to get early picks. But xp from creeps is more important imo

[@barbolaf]

Make a video of how do nothing is good. Many people thinks objetives are not optional, and you should allways engage no mater if you are going 3v5

[@barbolaf]

PLZ :)

[@lordphill807]

Yeah I'd like to see a video like that too.

[@rodzeroher]

Yeah, some people dont get they can give up something in return of something else.

[@barbolaf]

They don't see the value in trade an objective for a fort :'(

[@arandombard1197]

Well its not about doing nothing, its about your opponents getting an objective vs your opponents getting an objective plus 3 kills.

[@antonbelyaev8295]

Hello there. I'm an offlaner main and when I play on bigger maps with comms I like splitting to a side lane at the start, wait for the enemy to show mid, clear the lane a.s.a.p. and then try to slow the rotation of the opposing offlaner. On Cursed you can do it with both side lanes, because they are equally far. Usually it works like a charm. Thanks for you videos, btw, you have a great growing channel both for beginners and more experienced players!

[@DeWillpower]

The reason why I liked this game immediatly is because of this. Coming from Gigantic and Paragon, unfortunatly both closed, I decided to try LoL and Smite and they are so boring to play(like why do they like to waste half-hours of their lives), but then I watched some hots pro plays and this was just "We don't care about who's forced to go mid, we don't care what the support has to do while the others do entarly diffrent things, we don't care about what a tank should do in the early game, just play the "LoL" late game during the entire game!". I'm so happy I found a MOBA equal to Gigantic and Paragon, and thanks to your videos now I know more about it

[@whiskey5106]

I'm glad i found this video.

[@Gkowi]

I found that the longer i played the game and the higher player level i was, the more i went mid. At low levels we would all split and cover our lanes. Now we ALWAYS go mid no matter what

[@BingBangPoe]

I've always seen going mid because of what you said of having easy access to both top and bottom lanes.

[@cagaulu]

Small info: Until level 4, a minion waves gives more xp than a hero kill. At 5 a hero gives slightly more, but is way more dangerous, risky and harder to do than just beeing in range of a minion wave than dies.

[@EtherPump]

Whenever i play sylvanas, i skip the mid fight and zerg down a tower. usually get to do 80% tower damage to killing one and do upward to 50% on the second tower before the enemy even goes bot.

[@Makr0ss]

I've seen people getting ganked up going alone for the observer towers at level 1 and whyyy

[@kittenburger_prime]

How about starting as 5 is the only way to ensure you won’t get ganked by another group of 5?

[@casualtommyst8415]

Thanks man, I'm a newbie wanting to learn, early fights confused me, you've just earned a new sub :)

[@godwishyoutube]

Because it's tradition!

[@plunderersparadise]

I used to fight midlane to see how act my teammates in teamfights. Later on i knew who to focus and whether i can leave my team 4 vs 5 to soak. But it was on bronze, now I just go mid, clear wave and then I go soak other lane

[@bnjrvr8770]

You do not truly brawl for the lvl 1 fight to get a kill UNLESS you have an early game comp or a pick off comp. The only 3 reasons why you should group for lvl 1 fight is rotationnal advantage, quest progression and the fact that as 5 you are a lot safer. Rotationnal advantage is particularly relevant on rotation maps where you roam as 4. Clearing the first wave faster than your opponent is incredibly significant as it will allow you to clear the second wave faster and come back to mid with a rotation advantage : you are already set in place when the ennemy comes back and can get either continue to stay ahead in rotation or get free poke on ennemy if they come slightly staggered. A rotation advantage translates in either merc camp control or ganking power which is very powerful. On map where you don't rotate as 4 because lanes are far apart, there is still absolutely no reason not to group up as your grouped up team will clear the first wave fast enough for your solo laners to catch back onto their lanes without losing a single minion worth of xp (even if the ennemy solo laners were in their lanes first, the fact that they wavecleared it will actually give you an edge in that solo lane as their minion wave will move forward making it so that your next minion wave will stop attacking theirs. Shifting the minion contact point towards your side of the lane). Now, it might happen that your team's early game is weaker than the ennemy or that they have a lot more waveclear than you. In that case, your solo laner should take position early on in their respective lane and NOT SHOW nor actively clear the lane (for the reason explained in the previous point). Your mid lane should play safe and catch up on soak safely as minion come to your towers ; if you have quest talents you will still be able to get a few quest stacks as the ennemy will be grouped up. TLDR: your video has basicly has all this point explained but I feel like you take too much time explaining it in details regarding those given comps.

[@Crewit]

A whole lot of ppl these day would rather spend more time watching a video explaining this than reading your novel bro.

[@defaultname9214]

There's a story about a great Chinese general who was legendary for setting up traps for his enemy. One day he was completely cornered, completely outnumbered and surrounded inside a fort. So he went up to the wall and started playing his mandolin on top of the tower as the enemy army advanced. The enemy, seeing him alone and seemingly vulnerable, turned around and fled. The legendary general escaped certain defeat by appearing weak, tricking his enemy into thinking he is strong, when actually he is weak. Woah.

[@dcgregorya5434]

Personally, if I ever feel like I'm going to be mechanically better than the enemy team I always go mid. Often I get picks. If I'm a solo laner that I don't really feel has kill potential I'm more likely to just go to my lane and hide in the bush. Sometimes I'll go for vision aggressively if I know my team only wins on pure kills (IE, I have Nova/Tracer/Valeera in a QM or something).

[@jokkepokke95]

I've played the game for almost two years now but I've never actually known why or why not to go mid. Most of the time I solo lane depending entirely on my pick, or I just auto default to mid when I have a decent level 1 like Alarak just because I know there's gonna be an early fight and I want in on it, simply for the sake of having fun. Never realized the early game is this important tho. Also, the only problem with 11:20 is that 3 out of 5 people have the mindset of "this guy is telling me what to do but he's not my boss so I won't listen to him", and they'll completely ignore you. At least that's my experience with MOBAs.

[@wilsont2377]

Don’t forget other reason is to spray until someone make mistake

[@1Lightblade]

Remember early beta HotS when everyone went separate lanes from the beginning, and specialists always went mid?

[@Aeroxima]

I go mid because I'm impatient and laning is boring and that's why I don't play LoL. Also because it's scary being on your own, and I usually play support anyways so I'm more effective there, especially on aoe healers like Brightwing or Lucio. (Although burst heals tend to be nice there too because somebody usually gets focused.)

[@ArthasHastingsMenethil]

iit's kinda hard for someone from SMITE cause I've played many SMITE game and if all rush Mid it's not a great idea, it's not that bad either cause in HOTS you pretty much have all abilities avaible (except Ultimate) easy to rush Mid in SMITE we have seperated Lane Duo is for Support and ADC(Tank and Hunter/Mage) Mid is.... moslty... for Mages(like Jaina, Kael'thas,...etc) Solo is for mainly Warrior type sometime can be some Assassin(Set,...etc) Jungle is those Camp(Siege Camp, Bruiser Camp...etc) is mainly for Assassin who will clear jungle to get some buff and their own EXP point from EXP camp and sometime can be for Warrior like Sun Wukong uhm... I'm wondering... can you do Video about Transistion from SMITE to HOTS ?

[@1Animeculture]

Also, midfights are a great idea to learn your opponent before the game.

[@KenZ0e]

Did an Ctrl+F on Chromie with no results so here goes, If the enemy have a Chromie, never go mid. You WILL get burned down faster than they will regardless of CC as mentioned in the video. You will also give her ample opportunity to do her quest/trait. So if there's a Chromie, start off by going lanes and force the travel time upon their team.

[@rockman22]

Because it's fun

[@winterhear]

What about the late game grouping ? someone should make video about it. I was told today by a bronze player that lvl 26-28 = grouping ... i almost facepalmed my keyboard ... please explain this as well (a tip for video if you alredy didn't ;) )

[@gtox11]

mid-lane lvl1 fight + thrall crash lightning = 3-5 easy stacks. love the lvl1 "fight".

[@ahmedbraham3327]

I just want to say that if im playing a lvl 1 Quest Hero I'll go mid or else im soaking. kills worth less than minions early.

[@adombovic]

Sun Tzu's lifelong aspiration has finally been fulfilled! Error in translation... He meant Video Game, not war

[@skolex3121]

When you say "red team" it's really confusing because in the talent overview the team colors are swapped.

[@medicmantra2838]

I'm just here to learn about rehgar flip Also. Heal Main LFG

[@BlueLightningSky]

What if you are against an Alarak and he doesn't take his level 1 talent before the brawl?

[@yargolocus4853]

just assume that he CAN take it. He also has innate stacking from kills so just always count him like he has a quest

[@jannieschluter9670]

Just a side note, Sun Tzu was a fictional general.

[@WaitingForStorm]

even if your team all went mid lane at the start only half of the games you played, you're most likely to learn to go mid lane simply because you play this game to fight (also because going mid lane for no reason doesn't seem to give you any noticeable disadvantage)

[@jonathanstudentkit]

the colours are messed up the blue team is red in the overview

[@Haughington]

The real highlight of this video is seeing how many fucking browser tabs are open at once

[@guardiangarasu]

I don't know about you guys. But my teams always fight mid lane at level 1 to give the enemy team several kills and 1-2 level lead.

[@JPagan-id8pf]

Fuckin Gem dude!!! Thanks again, instant like!

[@mileswebb5395]

Omfg its Zezima on the red team. RIP RS:(

[@Zepher48]

[@riskingeuphoria]

we go mid because its fun to fight and we don;t have to miss soak

[@janisir4529]

It's tradition.

[@Alcadeias90]

I go mid because I want my team to have more chances to live. Since everyone goes mid, if I don't, my team is doomed to a 4 v 5 because why would they ever play safe when at disadvantage

[@hiway19891]

Everyone go the mid lane even before quest talent was a thing, just saying.

[@deadman7096]

why people on bronze 5 go midlaine on lvl?

[@tomasbocek4889]

i love when i go solo lane and i already know, at least one teammate will die 4v5 on mid....

[@Tasfarel]

Thank you for your insight. I wish more people would be aware that soaking lane is much more important than taking useless fights. Just 2 days ago it happend that we lost the first objektive on battlefield of eternity. Boss went bottom lane. I as a spec stayed top for 2 reasons. First to soak XP (we where a level behind) and second to counter their zagara pushing top as well. I got flamed IMMIDIATLY that i´m a retarded idiot for not abandoning top and helping defend bottom

[@staysharp2453]

Yeah, it is happening a lot to me in quick match since lately i've been playing more focused in exp.

[@BlueLightningSky]

Do you believe in the theory that doing the mid brawl is the wrong choice for at least one team? Assuming quest stacking isn't a priority. One team should have a weaker early game or a weaker team fight and since there's really no reason to fight since there is no objective yet, the 5 man brawl seems pointless.

[@sarzootashoota351]

There is always one team that has an advantage. So yes, if you have an aba or they have a bunch of quests they need to hit you, just avoid them. I recently beat a Hanzo when I was playing Hanzo because he went mid and got three hits of his Q Quest on everyone else and he never ever hit me even once with his q because I just avoided him all game. Play smart.

[@bobedwards8896]

Every 1 who plays hots should watch this...