Why Do We Love The Jupiter?

[@Bomfunker91]

I feel for Inner Sphere troops who were sent up against Clan garrison troops in the early post-invasion years, only to find that the Clans' "not worth regular frontline use" forces were still made up of monsters like the Jupiter, Incubus and Conjurer.

[@BazztheBazz]

One of my buddies has a Jupiter 3 that he terrorizes our gaming group with. 4 years since we all started gaming together, nobody has managed to bring the stravag thing down.

[@h0shidont35]

Holy cow, that thing is a demon!

[@justincase9282]

Sounds like you have a lack of Marauder IIC.

[@bthsr7113]

@@justincase9282 Personally, I'd recommend a Hellstar as an apex predator of mechs

[@Geeko170]

@@bthsr7113 both were tired and failed.

[@andyeaton1736]

It always amuses me that Clanners look down on second line mechs even when they are loaded to the gills with quality components. “Oh sure my mech doesn’t have Omni pods but it’s still a 100 ton monster with a versatile weapons load out.”

[@MechanicalFrog]

Yeh it's a bit silly.

[@bthsr7113]

Would they still be clanners if they weren't at least a little silly in their ways? Besides, there are precedents in real life of chasing the most sophisticated and showy tech even if the improvements aren't all they're cracked up to be.

[@andyeaton1736]

@@bthsr7113 I’m now picturing Clan Mechwarriors fighting duels to pilot the newest Timber Wolf model that now has cup holders.

[@jaredragland4707]

​@@andyeaton1736Cleaning a coffee ring off the right tactical display for the umpteenth time wears on morale, while you wait for the second reload of the afternoon

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Honestly I prefer NON-omnimechs, especially in campaign games where I can refit the engine as salvage allows, or need dictates. Something Omni's just can not do, without bending or breaking the rules. Give me a C or a IIC any day over the Omni. I still think the Omnimech was designed as a rapid refit prototyping platform, that was never meant to put into mass production with 'pod' space.

[@memph1ston]

The Jupiter is one of the cooler Dark Age mechs! I remember pulling one and then scrambling to make a Dragon's Fury army specifically for it.

[@EdmondHiggins]

Bummer about the video performance metrics you shared at the beginning. The dark age has some of the coolest mechs in the whole setting: Xanthos , Dola, Jupiter, Anzu, Mjolnir and Lament off the top of my very old head. Click-Tech never 'clicked' with me, but not every MechWarrior that remembers the Reagan administration has such a narrow view of the Dark Age mechs. This is crazy but I want people to learn about ALL the crazy BattleTech units. I hope you cover more of the mechs that people never gave a chance.

[@PaganPilot]

And if your Star gets hungry, its gotta huge waffle iron on the back! -some Clan Sea Fox probably

[@michaelmoolick9419]

I am now convinced every mech needs a built in niche cooking apparatus.

[@bthsr7113]

@@michaelmoolick9419 I mean, British tanks have had boiling vessels standard since after WWII, and we know there's more than enough waste heat to cook up an entire cow worth of beef cuts after a prolonged battle in a lot of mech designs.... so it should be possible.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

@@bthsr7113 Your basic brain bucket also served as your cooking 'pot' until the US military went to the K-Pot, which ironically was not flame proof unlike the formerly steel helmets were so it could not be used to cook in. As every veteran will tell you an army marches on it's stomach, so cooking was a requirement not a luxury for any effective fighting force. Feed an army nothing but MRE's 7 days a week for a few weeks and the only thing those soldiers will be fighting is their leadership, and constipation.

[@bthsr7113]

@@Dang_Near_Fed_Up I imagine that clan MRE's are a bit less disruptive to the system and clanners have less experience with food that's worth being indulgent for. Show them some quality cooking in a POW camp, an I imagine they'll start seeing things differently.

[@chrissegee]

The 3 sounds like it would make a fabulous mech fir a Circle of Equals Trial

[@jameskizer9980]

The initial weapons load out really reminds me of the Mauler.

[@nurgle333]

Maybe that's why I liked it so much as soon as I saw it! Mauler is my favorite

[@bthsr7113]

Same. 4 long range autocannons, 2 far reaching directed energy systems, and 2 sizable shoulder LRM pods.

[@jameskizer9980]

@@bthsr7113 Yup a support mech that can anti-air to fire support.

[@nurgle333]

Dude this battlemech looks AWESOME, this is right up my alley! I'm kind of tired endless 3025 crap tbh

[@MechanicalFrog]

I am going to continue to dabble in the newer designs. Heck or high water.

[@nurgle333]

@@MechanicalFrog hell yeah dude

[@mikegould6590]

Feel free to do all the Dark Age units. As much grief as this period gets, we wouldn't have great units like the Jupiter, Jade Hawk, Gyrfalcon and all those Frankenmech industrials without it.

[@MechanicalFrog]

There are some really cool Dark Age mechs that need the limelight.

[@nurgle333]

+1

[@Geeko170]

A player in my local group swears by this, and having had used it, I also fully swear by this monster of a brick. It took a full lance of fire, twice! and didn’t care. I have seen this look at mediums and they fall apart. I have yet to see anything stand up to this and survive, except for luck. It is the Clan Atlas, that only gets scarier the longer you look at it. Oh crap! Even got a Bannson’s Raiders quote!

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

Bannson's Raiders had two great assault mechs that was Jack "One Eyed Jack" Ferrell in his Jupiter and Jacob Bannson himself in his Cygnus lmao love you bro!

[@bthsr7113]

There are a few mechs that could be considered the "clan Atlas"

[@KillerOrca]

I don't have a grudge against the Dark Age like some people do. Oddly enough, I feel annoyed with myself for not getting into the series when it was right in front of me; I remember the Clix, I had a bunch I bought used and then lost somehow. So much cool stuff I could have been doing...ah well. Cant change the past. I SWEAR I had a Jupiter in one of the Clix boxes I got. It, a Tundra Wolf and a Mad Cat were the three "big mechs" that I liked out of the 40 something boxes I found and my mom bought for me.

[@theintern2960]

"Jade Falcon" is never the Clan I would have thought of seeing this clunky-looking beast, but then again, their Turkina, Bane, and other Assault designs always seemed a bit awkward, like they suddenly have no idea what to do with all that extra weight. This coming from a Clan that somehow packs 6+ guns on their Light and Medium 'Mechs.

[@bthsr7113]

They also built the Bane, which is quite the beefy brick, aside from the early prime art. Edit: Just now saw that you did mention the Bane.

[@WolfHreda]

I can't wait to catch up on the Dark Age stuff. I got the whole Humble Bundle.

[@YalelingOz]

I really quite like most of the Dark Age mech designs. And I'm fully aware that's because they had the advantage of a back and forth between actual designers, the writers, and the guys who were going to manufacturer the miniature, and when all are happy the design is locked in. That's a more time consuming and expensive process, but the mechs that come out of it look so much better for it. And thanks for doing this why do we love. I didn't know anything about the Jupiter beforehand.

[@gammaknight2215]

Lol. It looks like someone said "Do you think it has enough missiles?" "Naaaah. Add 100 more."

[@gammaknight2215]

It's all the nubs

[@BoisegangGaming]

I had no idea this thing even existed. Always fun to see more unknown mechs. Its also one of those things where I already know enough about the iconic mechs, seeing the less-known mechs is far more interesting.

[@scytheseven9173]

I quite like the MF variant! Thanks for the video, it was really good

[@MechanicalFrog]

Glad to hear it!

[@joelaugustin6407]

The Jupiter was the first mech Mini I remember seeing, the same friend who introduced my older brother to hero clix also had a dark age collection and I thought the Jupiter he had looked awesome. That was my first exposure to battletech.

[@feliorserapheel6539]

I am positivley supprised that you made a video on this Mech, because I jsut recently watched a Video from Big-Red-40TECH on the comming Box Sets for Battletech. The Jupiter was in one of the Jade Falcon Boxes, and once I looked up the Mech on Sarna I was really exited because it looks really cool and has quite a lot of Firepower. Thanks for making this video. It is amazing as allways and I hope it still does well, even though this is not a 3025 Mech

[@MechanicalFrog]

I'm definitely looking forward to those JF boxes. There's some real talent there.

[@Spartaner251]

it looked somewhat cool back in the dark age days i guess... its strange to see a clan mech with fully articulated hands, even more so in the assault class.

[@bthsr7113]

It's so you can pick up a personal vehicle of an unruly labor cast and shake them. Or maybe even a train car full of them.

[@lexington476]

7:35 look at how much has been taken out of the we're in commonwealth. How do they have the resources to maintain resistance against the Clans at that point? They've lost so much territory.

[@bthsr7113]

There are rumors that the Commonwealth was going to die.

[@ophiuchus3252]

Finally... I don't care what Red says..this mech is majestic.

[@fullmetalgamers1276]

What has red said about it?

[@ophiuchus3252]

@@fullmetalgamers1276 He is not a fan of the way it looks haha.

[@h0shidont35]

​@@ophiuchus3252it does look like someone bonked it a little with the ugly stick

[@Blade40688]

I think the original Jupiter sounds alright, but I'd replace the ERPPCs with ERLLs and use the weight saved to feed the UAC5s some more ammo. and possibly strip a heatsink for another ton of LRM ammo. It's still a very impressive alpha, but now has some endurance to keep it up. The lack of jumpjets and slower speed shouldn't be a huge problem as it is a secondline garrison mech so it should be fighting defensively for the most part

[@ryvius555]

I remember the Jupiter from my very first Battletech novel ever, A Call to Arms (which I think is actually a pretty good read for the reportedly controversial Dark Age). I think Raul Ortega is a pretty likable and relatable character as well. Great vid, as usual! First time commenting, but just wanted to throw a couple of Mech suggestions: The Hellstar, which I think is a terrifying a near perfect mech for what its designed to do, and has a pretty interesting orgin as a collaboration between Clan Wolf in Exile and Clan Hell's Horses. Other mechs I'd be thrilled to see you tackle would be the Pack Hunter, Starslayer, and Warwolf. Keep up the good work!

[@MechanicalFrog]

We'll definitely have to hit a few of those this year.

[@readwatchlisten2863]

I like that you are taking a crack at later-era stuff. I'm a 3025 guy myself, but we need more post-3075 content out there. Not a mech I would run but nice to see some others get through the spotlight for a bit.

[@andrewwalli1123]

A MF mech with no plasma rifles or jump jets daring today arn’t we?

[@MechanicalFrog]

Have to keep you guessing.

[@nurgle333]

Same reaction here "no jump jets? Interesting"

[@ursulcx299]

What a goofy looking lil guy. The crown design is really distinctive, makes me think of the Huron Warrior

[@the_warpwny]

Hell yeah! The Jupiter is one of my favorite Dark Age mechs. The Jupiter, Crimson Hawk, Jade Hawk and every Jade Falcon totem mech bring the good feels! Thanks for covering them!

[@jamesbeard5513]

The Jupiter was probably one of the best mechs from the Dark Ages HeroClix game (More so than the Wolf's Tundra Wolf or Sea Fox's Mad Cat Mk. IV/Savage Wolf). Simple and direct. Also, when I look at the legs, it reminds me of the Hellbringer, Summoner, and Thunderbolt IIC. Makes me think the scientist just upsized the structure of those standard designs as a thought project and then use the order to bring it to reality.

[@MechanicalFrog]

One tough cookie.

[@jasonfarley9025]

Oooh, I like the one with the 400 engine! Always like a 400 in a 100 ton Mech

[@bthsr7113]

Usually a bit rich for my blood.

[@jasonfarley9025]

@@bthsr7113 if you play with c-bills then you should never field any 'mechs ever So I tend to simply ignore that as a concept

[@Sethry406]

Thanks for this one Frog. Im one of the old folks who hasn't had a chance to play tt since TRO 3055 so vids like these are all new stuff to me as I only know the broadest strokes of the lore from the FedCom war forward. It looks like quite a few folks picked up that giant Humble Bundle recently though and it includes a ton of the later books - hopefully that will help get some eyeballs onto the newer stuff!

[@sterner626]

Thank you for your constant hard work covering battletech MF, and a special thank you for covering my 100 ton CJF love. You rock!

[@MechanicalFrog]

Wow, Thank you so much for the support. It was a pleasure getting to know the Jupiter.

[@charlesballiet7074]

there is really nothing like this mech its very unique and honestly one of my favorit dark age designs

[@MechanicalFrog]

It has a charming function over form to it.

[@nurgle333]

I want this in MW5 so bad haha

[@TehSquare]

I love the Jupiter because I had the action figure they made of it as a kid

[@covahredro8370]

This mech reminds me of Exo-Squad, it might be because many mech design were used in that show. Edited: made a correction, where I accidently said Exo Force instead of Exo Squad.

[@bthsr7113]

You mean toylline right? Because Exo-Force was the lego line focused on mechs fighting over a split mountain... and then an ancient city in a jungle.

[@covahredro8370]

@@bthsr7113 Opps I meant Exo Squad, not Force

[@nurgle333]

Exo-Squad was so freaking cool

[@bthsr7113]

@@covahredro8370 I'm not familiar with that one.

[@anselmoffrisia2930]

This was good. I hope the fans allow you to make more Dark Age mechs since I know so little about all of them.

[@wraith7989]

I enjoyed Clicky-tech. I also enjoyed Battletech, MechWarrior RPG and all the video games. They were all just different flavors of my beloved Battletech.

[@DrPhd]

The Jupiter is great! Such a workhorse of a 'mech. It's on the slow side, especially for a Dark Age era Jade Falcon 'mech. However, it's the embodiment of Falcon tenacity with it's ability to tank hits and hit back even harder.

[@Primearch-GG]

Ngl, the Jupiter's CT looks like a handheld vacum cleaner you use to clean your car back in the 90's.

[@tenchraven]

So you're saying it looks like it is supposed to suck? :P

[@Primearch-GG]

@@tenchraven you said it, not me!

[@MechanicalFrog]

It looks like it has a long snoot.

[@DonaldWWitt]

@@MechanicalFrog What's with those... Forks? On the sides of the snoot? Some of the models you showed had them sticking out like they were an auxiliary pair of arms!

[@bthsr7113]

@@DonaldWWitt That's what they are, per the "Fine Manipulators" quirk.

[@randyslater199]

Ahh the "MFUPITER" what is not to love a florescent bright neon frog green signaling the death coming upon the unlucky foe. It's look kinda reminds me of the Space suits shown in the movie Fifth Element ( which were cool to me at least)

[@MechanicalFrog]

I really shouldn't be trusted with a 100 ton mech.

[@Ironclockwork]

Setting aside my opinions on the 'Mech's aesthetics, this is a good look into a part of Battletech lore that is not covered as often as its more popular timeline sections. Thank you for your time and thanks to the contributor for the suggestion in giving the opportunity for additional learning.

[@jollyjohnthepirate3168]

Jupiter is the Roman name of the Greek god Zeus. We already have one of those. I'm going to neeed to speak to the Battletech manager. Sincerly, Battletech Karen

[@MechanicalFrog]

You're going to have to talk to Samantha in HR.

[@bthsr7113]

Be advised that Samantha is an elemental demoted to Labor caste and would cut off a foot for a chance to have even a minor trial of Grievance.

[@dantejones1480]

65 kph on 100 tons. That alone is enough to scare even grizzled MechWarriors. And it clobbers you with LRMs and LPLs? Nope, no matter how many C-Bills you give me. Nope.

[@MechanicalFrog]

It just wants a hug.

[@DanTheKendoMan]

I purchased a magazine, InQuest, back in the early 2000's, and one article was about the MWDA tournament they had. 7-8 year old me saw the 6th place mech, Jupiter, and fell in love. Had no idea it was related to BATTLETECH for years. I have recently been incensed back into the franchise because of MW5 and HBS BATTLETECH, and how much I've missed it. Still my favorite mech

[@lukedudley5030]

Another fun watch....I'm one of those that has seen its sheet but never used it as i am too old to fight in the dark age being a clan invasion veteran lol...seems like it can hit like a truck if you're willing to have a cooked pilot :-)

[@drragoon83]

One of my favorites from the Dark Age. It's a Jupiter IV.

[@Rave_n_ight]

Oh this brings me back I actually own the Diecast toy of the Jupiter and it still decorates a self in my room

[@edgardosanchez521]

Ah, the Jupiter, my favorite Dark Age mech! My Jade Falcon forces love it! I love all of its variants. One thing of note on the Jupiter 4 is that while it seems to have lost firepower, it actually has lost little by having superior heat dissipation, so while its Alpha Strike is slightly diminished, its effective firepower per turn is still as fearsome as any other while being faster.

[@krashkow]

As a fan of the Dark Age (We exist!) I'm happy to see the Jupiter getting some love.

[@fabianmaryanowski2252]

I dont play tabletop so often mechs are completly new to me. That mech is already an amazing look, luv it❤

[@strcmdrbookwyrm]

OK, I'm going to have to try the Jupiter at some point. It seems all around average, which is a accomplishment for a clan designed mech. It also suits my preferred fighting style of mid-to-long range, but won't flinch if something runs up and gets into it's face. Because I like mech building, I decided to take a stab at a mixed-tech, one-off Jupiter. It started as a standard Jupiter, but was salvaged by a IS unit and had components gradually replaced as they were damaged. It keeps the LRM 15s and one PPC, as well as the same engine, structure, and armor. The first major change is that the 4 UAC 5s where switched out for a Rotary Autocannon 5 in each arm. The two RACs can easily but a similar amount of fire downrange, with another two bonus shots and the ability to clear any jams. The eight tons freed up by switching to the RACs is given to two extra tons of ammo and three jump jets. Finally, the destroyed Clan ER PPC has been replaced by a Snub-Nose PPC. It's a bit eclectic, but should largely function the same as the standard Jupiter. It'll certainly be a bit quirky with the IS tech, but that's kinda the point.

[@georgehillyer7959]

…”the timeline ends at some arbitrary point coinciding with when they gave the game a break in the late 90’s or early 2000’s…” OMG this is so true! I am getting back into the game after a 20 year absence and have to reminded that the world has continued after operation Bulldog. Good one.

[@thil2894]

I did not know that this mech existed for that, thank you. It's still no Orion.

[@vykryl65]

One of my favorite clickytech mechs. My play group did a lot of 600 point lance battles. My Dragon's Fury army for these contests was usually ×3 Forestery Mech Mod and a Jupiter. I think i have all the varients from Wizkids. Been a long time since i my MW-DA toys were got out to play

[@aaronbosen6743]

The thing I like most about the Jupiter mech is that it's a big brick that is slow for a clan mech ludicrously optimized for long range, not an actual omnimech despite being exactly what you'd want omnipods in given it's stock all or nothing long range armanents and inexplicably has the fine manipulators modifier despite most models of it literally having no visible manipulators and no real advantage for it having them given it's role. It's basically an inner sphere mech trying and failing to cosplay as a clan one, complete with nonsensical special rule modifier that's really not applicable to any situation you'll actually run into and that is funny to me.

[@bthsr7113]

The prime is like a meaner Mauler. With hands. And even more severe ammo issues. Yeah, I've got a soft spot for this beast already. Even if I would probably tweak it for endurance.

[@MechanicalFrog]

There's a functional charm in it.

[@bthsr7113]

@@MechanicalFrog It's also got some delightful quirks for utility and flavor.

[@robrib2682]

You know I didn't know this thing existed before but I'm very glad that it does because it proves that clan pockets may be deep, but eventually they do start to run dry (even if all that means is you use the industry standard instead of cutting edge)

[@meining-mech4378]

I remember pulling one of these from a MW:DA booster pack long ago. I recall saying something like “what the hell is this” when I first saw it. It has an overall cool appearance, though the missile boxes as shoulders make me wonder how both missile and arm mechanisms operate in such a cramped manner. Never tried one on the tabletop, but I think if I had my pick, either the standard or the Jupiter-3 would be my choices. I do look forward to seeing the artists tackle this one.

[@bthsr7113]

Haven't heard of this one before, but it looks big, bold, and heavily armed!

[@MechanicalFrog]

Large and in charge.

[@Alizardwithdaftideas]

Saw the tweet about this video and was excited to learn about it because damn it looks cool.

[@MechanicalFrog]

Hope you enjoyed the vid.

[@Alizardwithdaftideas]

@@MechanicalFrog I did, thanks.

[@SeismicWolf]

Never expected to see a Clix Mech in a video

[@bthsr7113]

There's some good ones out there.

[@duncanmackenzie7795]

The few times I remember running into this thing it was an interesting machine. The autocannons did unpleasant things to the engine of my mech with a piercing shot.

[@xyonblade]

challenge accepted! I'm going to watch all your "why do we love" videos! Since I have no timeline/period bias per say myself.

[@MechanicalFrog]

I sure won't dissuade you from that plan.

[@xyonblade]

@@MechanicalFrog I have been enjoying your videos quite a bit and I fully intend to continue doing so! hehe

[@kierdalemodels]

I love this brute. Looks hard, is hard. And hits hard! My son wants one for his Goliath Scorpions so we’ll see what’s available when I’ve cleared my model backlog…IWM or if a CGL plastic is out by then. A really cool mech. Thanks for the vid, MechFrog!

[@MechanicalFrog]

Right on!

[@matthewpena3932]

I came to see this because it was not a 3025 junker bug mech. I want to learn more about mechs coming to plastic in a future.

[@MechanicalFrog]

That's the plan.

[@nichweidman7858]

Yeah, I'm one of those guys who feels the timeline ended with the resolution of the Civil War, but I've been trying really hard to catch up on the last 25 years. After this video, I think I REALLY need a Jupiter 3.

[@MechanicalFrog]

It's a solid one.

[@josabar8561]

more non 3025 mechs please.

[@MechanicalFrog]

More in the works.

[@fullmetalgamers1276]

The jupiter 3 is 100 tons of hatred. It is my primary choice for my hundred ton problem solver and it has never let me down. It might take a minute to get to optimal range but when it gets there it takes care of business.

[@Arnuld15Governator]

I'd like to hear a breakdown of the Supernova since my friend has been interested about the clan equivalent of the King Crab recently.

[@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285]

The Jupiter is just such a good goon mech that you can't help but love it.

[@MechanicalFrog]

It has a utilitarian charm.

[@marsar1775]

I dont have much to say, other than this mech is odd with its arm placement. is there room for the internals? its not the only mech with this issue to be sure. Also, maybe Jack was owed a pretty large favor by someone high up in the jade falcons? covered up an... indiscretion, or helped em out in a bar brawl maybe. Im no clan expert but i imagine the jade falcons would be otherwise hesitant to supply a brigand with an assault mech

[@kyubimage9526]

Going straight from "Literally Who?" to "Hell yeah give me the warhammer, archer, and rifleman chimera" real quick

[@Versudan]

Made an analogue of the Jupiter in modded MW5 and gave it a whirl. It was actually surprisingly decent, even in it's unmodified base configuration. As a sniper though, that huge, central and prominent cockpit canopy is a massive design flaw that screams "shoot me right here for a free kill" and probably the only thing I don't like about the mech as a whole.

[@lexington476]

Another competent video Frog, 4 out of 5 and a thumbs up 👍.

[@MechanicalFrog]

Thanks 👍

[@nurgle333]

Love this channel

[@Zippercdrr]

I am here to learn more about the stompy bois

[@MechanicalFrog]

And I hope you did. And that you enjoyed the video.

[@nurgle333]

Same

[@battlespace13]

The Jupiter is what the Mauler wanted to be.

[@nurgle333]

Doesn't have the cool looks

[@haileysaint5443]

I actually think I have a clix of this one. Your MF version is probably my favorite of the ones you covered. Though I'm also more partial to my Jupiter ISM, lol. Though a mixed tech variant, most of it remains Clantech. The "mixed" part comes from its use of IS triple strength myomer and a plasma rifle with 2 tons of ammo in each side torso. Backing up those are a pair of improved heavy large lasers - in each arm. It also features a larger XL engine, for a 4(5)/6(8)/0 movement. Unfortunately, according to Mech Factory, it costs nearly 33 million c-bills. It also generates 92 heat if you alpha strike, and its DHS only dissipate 40 of that.

[@FrozenThrog]

I have yet to delve into anything post-clan invasion. Not due to aversion, but rather a lack of time. I'm pretty new to Battletech, and there is a fair amount of it. Solid mech though. Would not mind fielding one at all.

[@madcat3525]

Great video! Looking forward to more videos!

[@MechanicalFrog]

More to come!

[@androssthered1157]

Dark Age stuff wasn't all bad. Look at this sexy mech and awesome Frog covering it.

[@catherinenyxsera]

The problem of course with some wanting to ignore that the Dark Age happened is that many of us Battletech fans were introduced during or post Dark Age. Myself, I was introduced via the MW:DA minis game. I still have fond memories of it. It was also immediately clear from the dossiers and such that came with units though that this was part of a larger universe, so I looked into that. And I immediately picked up every TRO and Field Manual and other Battletech texts I could find. I also got the Mechwarrior ttrpg books. And Mechwarrior 4 video game. I was all in on this IP, and this is all while I was stationed in South Korea. Have of course stuck with it these past 20+ years. I still have all my MW:DA minis. My initial faction was Dragon's Fury, and they had a 'hero mech' (to borrow the MWO term) for the Jupiter as well. I generally prefer lighter/faster mechs, but the Jupiter was definitely a fascinating machine in application and appearance. I only used it in larger point games, but it was a terror for opposition in those occasions.

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

I've got all the LE and Unique Jupiters. One Eyed Jack is a zombie who refuses to die. DF is fun with you guessed it the DI Schmitt Tank Drop, and Overlord is fun for shutting down Planetary Condition cards.

[@catherinenyxsera]

Definitely. So many DI Schmitts. :)

[@catherinenyxsera]

I stuck to my factions of choice for my collecting. With the exception of the Crimson Hawk. I do not like it on paper, and it is a Blood Spirit design (bleh :D ), but I just love the look of it and I collected every mini of it that appeared. Just a rainbow of mostly not red birds. :D

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

@@catherinenyxsera I got lucky the other day and scored 2 DI Schmitt for 5 bucks! The DF Crimson Hawk...was definitely a filler piece but it did look cool with the flamer arms.

[@Based_Lord_Humongous]

I now collect every ClickyTech I can get my hands on.

[@lexington476]

I had never heard of the Jupiter. So is there a corresponding Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune mechs?

[@MechanicalFrog]

Seems an opportunity.

[@tehpw7574]

9:13 I've seen that pic before (probably because I own a book with that image in it) but this the first time that I see something different: Did the Jade Turkey's clone Conan O'Brian (post Tonight show)?

[@MechanicalFrog]

Possible.

[@jasonfarley9025]

That MF variant is brutal!

[@kaisiegfried425]

I love the Jupiter since i read "Der Kampf beginnt!!" or in English a call to Arms. First Book With Raul Ortega and if i remember correctly the Steel Wolfes. Also my first Batteltech/Mechwarrior Book i ever read. Solid 7 out of ten PPC hits.

[@gregmichaud7314]

An awesome mech to have in your hanger bay

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

This is a new mech on me, but not one I think I will be using. At least not the factory configurations. 1 ton of ammo for the LRM's is a bad joke, and 4 UAC 5's or a pair of UAC 10's is just too much dependence upon ammo intensive weaponry for me, and then there is the jamming issue as well. The MF configuration has potential I think, and I may give it a try. As always nice work on the video Frog, keep them coming.

[@MechanicalFrog]

Thank you!

[@nathanwheeler2047]

@mechfrog Thank you I actually like this mech and the Tundra Wolf

[@JustinPivinski-cm2rh]

Mw dark age got me started with tabletop games. I have fond memories of this mech. And I have the one eyed jack mini still. I wouldn't mind more dark age mechs even though I know alot of the Fandom doesn't like the dark age.

[@MechanicalFrog]

I'm glad to see it has some fans.

[@Nikotheos]

That’s a big boy. Never seen this before, thanks!

[@trickkit385]

The Jupiter is nearly unique in having both endo and a 300XL, so actually fitting that much firepower into limited crits gives it a pretty interesting character. The UAC-5s actually become...efficient.

[@MechanicalFrog]

Absolutely. The first build I had in mind for the MF variant ended up with 15 tons left over... "Oh... well that won't work..."

[@trickkit385]

@MechanicalFrog I had to get super in the weeds on it for a Mech of the Week article like a decade ago and, yeah, it's not a small problem. The Jupiter 2 even cheats by dropping the hands.

[@screenmonkey]

Really what killed Battletech Dark Age for me was how random the clickytech packs were the was one the name change for the novels, and the time jump. Had the setting did a gradual journey with the time line, ie, closed out the Civil War with Clicktech, and moved into the Kerfluffle and let the Republic of the Sphere breathe so we could care about it, would have softend the irritation. FASA shuttering their doors at the turn of the century did not help at all, especially with them being as huge as they were.

[@MLCrisis1790]

All right, fine, I'll keep an open mind. But I won't be happy about it!

[@MechanicalFrog]

Well then. :P

[@larslaufer301]

About MWDA. Setting was interesting to me, I played the game and had some fun matches. Also I disliked the click system. What killed it for me was the bad balance and constent changes to the point that you had to check if everyone was on the same page, rule and balance wise, beforre starting a game or else things could get confusing. As for the unit designs. They range from "pretty cool" to "we don't talk about it". Best thing for me was the better handling of infantry, battlearmor and most of all tanks. Tanks in normal BT are so badly done that I always suggest that you get 2 for the BV or half the BV. PS: Please do more MWDA. Also I played it, I hardly know much about the units in depth beside the few I played.

[@captaingeneralconch]

The 4th wall break callout

[@MechanicalFrog]

Feeling seen?

[@Psychohistorian42]

Its always nice to see the obscure stuff. Although judging by the comments this thing has been wrecking face for a while now.

[@MechanicalFrog]

It seems to have more fans than I expected.

[@Brigand231]

Yeah, in my book OEJ gets full credit for making the Jupiter cool.

[@sebastiang.5032]

I'm always staying brave & bold with you, Mr. Mechfrog. The Jupiter was also new to me, so I'm happy to leave this video with more knowledge of BT than before. 🐺✌️

[@strategoslevel3456]

How could you not mention Verena Wolf , Alarics girlfriend who was cooked in her Jupiters Cockpit by Anastasia Kerensky

[@MechanicalFrog]

Spite, I suppose.

[@strategoslevel3456]

@@MechanicalFrog lol