Why Does Epic HATE Controller Players?

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[@justinplayz1603]

ASSIE I LOVE U CNA I GET A HI

[@ip8103]

Get your bread son

[@ghsghshghs]

That looks like the biggest scam link

[@Dountwrap1]

What’s the green guy in the background called

[@iamateacup7849]

Bro putting a sponsor on someone else’s video is really scammy. Sponsors are fine for your work, but your just taking their work and putting your own sponsor + ads.

[@BenFoilHat]

One time while my son was using my account, he turned aim assist off for some reason. I get on without knowing this and thought I was developing adult onset autism.

[@dexxfa7274]

You must not use long sticks or control freaks

[@kedwyd6535]

🫵💀

[@wmurphy9558]

Regular Xbox controller

[@ruslanotarov9727]

😂😂😂

[@ottosantiagolassus]

​@@wmurphy9558 what does the console have to do with anything. it's the fact that aiming with a little stick is DS, regardless of the console

[@damewhin]

Not gone lie I skipped that sponsor so damn fast

[@stephonriley7491]

w aussie but facts 😂😂😂

[@Deerfield5]

What sponsor

[@MagicDinoH]

frr

[@MagicDinoH]

@@Deerfield5bro did u watch the vid

[@Deerfield5]

@@MagicDinoH yea I did that's just my opinion about what pros whine/bitch about shit

[@kylerlincoln2982]

Now here in chapter 5 season 4, Aim Assist is now almost non-existent.

[@Wogwomp]

Fr tho, I have good setting so my aim is decent but aim assist is so bad bro

[@kylerlincoln2982]

@@Wogwomp I think the poor aim assist is a bug with the chapter 5 weapons in general. I use a classic AR and aim assist works just fine.

[@philon4515]

Bulletdrop destroys Controller players, on Range you have no aimassist my duo is a controller player and he cant even aim good on distances

[@davidjorquera4192]

That just means he isn't that great at aiming tbh

[@bryce56]

You said you werent sure but its so obvious kbm players have a mechanical advantage, especially in a boxfight scenario. Thats not even a question

[@ignacio91]

Yh but with practice most controller players could win or be close to the lvl of kbm in boxfights, take for example reet who plays on expo so his mechanics arent the fastest but hes really precise and has good aim to the point he won against peter in zonewars and in boxfight (not sure abt this one would have to check it)

[@easymoneysicilian2442]

Yeah he lost me with that one lol its a blatant advantage

[@QthaKID]

@@ignacio91😂You guys keep sayin Reet like every controller player is as good as Reet, there’s a reason he’s a pro. The average KBM player has much larger advantage than an average controller player during box fighting or building. Being able to aim-shoot-and insta reset your wall in less than a second is something all KBM players can do but not the average controller player.

[@grafton425]

@@ignacio91what’s expo

[@timmysfittness903]

The only advantage Kbm used to have was scroll wheel reset but now with auto confirm reset it’s not even an advantage.

[@nonexistent4045]

bro ts not even fair anymore

[@Nickname4614ッ]

frl

[@Felxy1x]

Switch to kbm then

[@-rug-8853]

@@Felxy1xwhy would someone who is good asl on controller switch to kbm💀

[@Nickname4614ッ]

@@-rug-8853 no wrd i ain't tryna restart

[@ZenaimK3N]

​@@Felxy1x ain't no decent controller player tryna completely re-learn the game

[@OwenGilbert-s1b]

Double movement, scroll wheel reset, no shadows the gave PC a huge leg up,

[@easymoneysicilian2442]

Yeah when kbam got double movement it was gg’s lol. But that scroll wheel reset has always been broken from the beginning

[@J7A]

Word, scroll wheel reset with double movement is just way too much. Average keyboard players literally moving like Sway.

[@fish_R_stinky69]

You can play on PC with a controller.

[@45JS]

Just give us something for long range. Close range is bad but it’s playable. Trying to hit shots with a scope from range is awful on the sticks.

[@malontheblock]

If KBM is so much better or the game's advanced too much that controllers can't keep up than why don't they buff them? It makes no sense either KBM is superior so what they do to controller doesn't matter or it's not. Both of these things cannot be true at the same time.

[@Ffdddfddf-]

Kbm is just superior

[@malontheblock]

@@Ffdddfddf- I agree, but if it's so obviously true then that doesn't change anything I said.

[@PsyfadZ10]

Controller has a MASSIVE advantage. The best players in the world don't like to cheat, though, so they don't like playing with perfect aim bot on controller.

[@cruelchains]

​@@PsyfadZ10In zero build​, but in build nah Kbm has macro builds Double movement, scroll wheel reset, no shadows, low graphics (allows them to see players through tall grass or bush)​ PC has hacks as well

[@cruelchains]

​@@PsyfadZ10a lot of pros don't seem to care when they use an exploit and a lot of them use some if not all I just said and more.

[@uah66]

bro has a sponsor on a reaction video no way

[@backupfaith23]

I like how kbm said controller movement is cheating and then they even got controller movement from complaining about it so much

[@Comedykingdom69420]

Aim assist don't do nothin any more

[@numbas123]

For real like I do beam sometimes but I don't a lot

[@PsyfadZ10]

It's literally perfect aim bot hahahaha.

[@vfamily4396]

@@PsyfadZ10 u dont even have a controller lol

[@PsyfadZ10]

@@vfamily4396 yeah I don’t cheat in video games lmfao?

[@GimmeMinisBro]

​@@PsyfadZ10how is a controller cheating

[@riot_rot]

3:25 I’m a controller player since season 1 and I agree this aim assist was insane! Using the L2 spam was disgusting until it got patched!

[@galoaxy]

If you had high fps it was good but if you didn’t it wasn’t too good tbh

[@geogadget1]

Guess not as disgusting compared to today’s DMA and Zen users 😂 We went from Battle Royale to Cheaters Royale

[@jamesflanagan1509]

dont matter even if they gave controller players that ability to L2 spam it would not matter cause pc players can just spam builds and camps

[@dapancakebot5160]

@@jamesflanagan1509 we don't spam build and camp💀

[@HowThatHappen]

With aim assist being so garbage this season it's pretty rough. The longer range fine precision needed is basically the controller's weakness. Add in little to no aim assist with some guns this season and it's tough to hit shots. Not impossible but it can be a struggle.

[@PsyfadZ10]

Aim "assist" is literally perfect aim bot.

[@Novax52]

​@@PsyfadZ10so you must be playing on controller then, right? If it's such a huge advantage.

[@PsyfadZ10]

@@Novax52 I don't cheat in video games because I'm White.

[@leafkefn3774]

It should be a struggle right.. idk why you expect to just kill ppl bcz you have a left and right finger

[@user-jh5xe6rh9d]

​@@PsyfadZ10wdym "because I'm white" also it ain't aimbot

[@Notdogexgaming7225]

Ngl i wont swtich kbm i like controller tbh

[@FlintTheDad]

Skipped through that sponsor section of the video so fast my head was spinning

[@relentless_fps]

The biggest issues for Controller competing fairly against KBM are Long Range tags, not having enough buttons for optimal binds, switch mode & cycling weapons kills us in close combat box/build fights because you are switching back & forth between build mode & combat mode, a lot of times if you’re trying to take a wall or piece control you lose because you have to break the wall & then switch to build mode to place your builds. KBM doesn’t have to, they just have to hit the button that coincides with the build pieces & place with mouse as well as being able to select any weapon in their inventory instantly. The other major issue currently is the fact that KBM can chase down & out build controller players because they can full sprint build, we’re not able to sprint build on controller because of switch mode & every time you try to sprint when in build mode it will stop your sprint as soon as you try placing any build pieces. In my opinion they should change this so on controller you are able to freely build & edit at full sprint like you can on KBM which gives them a major advantage in build fights, it’s very easy for them to take height or reach ahead & piece you because they are able to move faster & sprint jump while building & editing

[@GimmeMinisBro]

Nobody is able to full sprint while ramp rushing, kbm players place the ramp, switch mode to sprint, then cancel the sprint with another switch mode, place rmap, repeat

[@relentless_fps]

@@GimmeMinisBro KBM doesn’t use switch mode between builds & combat. It just brings a build piece out as soon as you hit a build bound key, same with weapons. So in a way they can sprint build because they can bind sprint to any key to keep engaging it after placing tiles. It’s extremely hard to do on a controller since we have to switch mode, with limited buttons. I was just suggesting that they should across the board implement a full sprint build mechanic for everyone so when you switch mode while sprinting it doesn’t stop your sprint & you’re able to build at that speed until you’re out of stamina

[@kevinrotsaert6292]

​@@relentless_fpsthey should make it a double tap to keep the sprint active

[@1zoro553]

Recently I have switched to kbm and I have become 3x times better, but man I feel frustrated for grinding realistics on controller for 4 years straight, I wish i could be better just playing on kbm all that time😢

[@th3_ne0__]

I’ve tried playing on keyboard and mouse for the entirety of chapter 4 and chapter 5 season 1. I never improved a single bit so I just ended up going back to controller.

[@ENVIXITY-BOXED-U]

I really hate that the Aug doesn’t have aim assist but the striker does

[@GimmeMinisBro]

The aug already had minimal recoil anyway, adding AA would be overkill

[@ENVIXITY-BOXED-U]

@@GimmeMinisBro maybe but I enjoy using the striker more anyway I barely had any recoil

[@Maniiscool92]

@@GimmeMinisBromaybe using ur whole arm just to aim a dot on ur screen is overkill,like dude yall thinking AA is aimbot but its not,i played on kbm once even tho i sucked at it aiming on it was kinda easier💀 yall just want a thing to blame

[@60pingsnowyy]

The boxfighting part is true most teir 2 controllers player and under can’t full box fight a kbm player they mostly rat around builds for a opening

[@eliotftn]

I don’t agree with you, you can keep up in boxfighting as a controller player but you it is harder and you have to improve you mechs so much and practise a lot, which people don’t do because it used to not be necessary to fight (it is now if you play controller on PC). It is not really necessary on console because the aim assist is powerful on it. I hope you will understand my message well English isn’t my first language

[@Ffdddfddf-]

@@eliotftnnah bro, on pc you can still have better aim than controller because u can flick and better mechs with scroll wheel reset. Also aim assist is the same on console and pc. There is a reason u can only name like 4 tier 1 pros that are on controller

[@imdurk6698]

I am very good at box fights on controller and I can confirm number 3 is 100 percent correct I get shit on if I go up against a decent kbm and most of them just sit behind their Dorito edits or do a million edits and it’s impossible to keep up

[@Kyle-fr7ts]

Then you're not very good at box fights.

[@Clikyn]

Honestly just bring back hitscan weapons and buff long range aim assist and trust me your gonna get more controller players qualing for tourneys

[@imdurk6698]

Bro hitscan weapons are soo good but now with this bullshit it’s impossible to hit a shot from 70m away it’s actually shit I don’t even carry an ar anymore

[@jamesflanagan1509]

i dont carry an Ar or a. shotgun better off with 2 smgs anymore all players gonna do is spam u and hide in car all day

[@realcinnamongold]

@@jamesflanagan1509nobody hides in cars lol they only exist for movement

[@user-jh5xe6rh9d]

​@realcinnamongold not true

[@otlrobbie]

can’t stand aussie on controller, he just can’t comprehend it, key board is broken simple, it’s a totally different game, like except that 😂

[@Zawwtf]

I just hate how sometimes the aim assist feels strong then sometimes and feels weak or it don’t even work like it really just throws off your consistency badly

[@sedi]

Whoa gonna tell controller players that the hitboxes on kbm got buffed so everyone has free aim now on kbm. Rip a skill gap

[@Deerfield5]

Its not that epic hates controller players its because of all the pros that whine/bitch about everything i want them to buff aim assist again because im a controller player and bullet drop is absolute garbage i can hit my shots still but snipers shouldnt have bullet drop at 50 meters my aim was golden in chapter 4 but after that chapter my builds got better but my aim didnt

[@fish_R_stinky69]

We need bullet drop for ZB.

[@chillfacenoob]

3:45 BRO I PLAY ON SWTICH I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS THAT BAD WHAT 😭

[@LxquidVFX]

It's not like that anymore, they fixed it ages ago.

[@SuperDominicS]

​@@LxquidVFXhe may have meant back then, but yeah

[@Pellz]

I also think we need to stop calling controllers with two paddles on the back "pro controllers" that should be the standard because how important good movement is. Making everyone switch to claw to compete is not realistic

[@SavageNotZen]

love these types of videos,,, W VID!!

[@Abdel-ny8ft]

Bro put a sponsor in a react video... This is beyond insane 🤨

[@Viki13]

To be fair EU just has a lot less controller players like there are way less good controller players one can name on EU than in NA

[@ImpossibleXGamer]

T3ney.

[@Viki13]

@@ImpossibleXGamer yes very few EU controller players historically

[@just_levlup]

Epic loves controller players and makes the game easier for them. Controller players hit harder and are given priority in terms of optimization and help from the game itself

[@jeffb6276]

Now i can link people to this when they ask how comp players ruined fn. Should have scrapped it all at the end of chapter 2 so we didnt have to deal with being PC fodder for the last 2+ years

[@Ex3sfnbr]

Because they cador for whiny keyboard player who have there whole arm they can covax and they have scroll wheel reset

[@CRAJAJA]

I agree with every point the guy made ,they have let controller players too exposed ,with all the freaking binds there are and they can’t even give us decimal points to tune in our sens like mnk has. We want decimal Points, I am so tired of playing 40 % or 41% let me go to 40.1 or 40.5 epic, just like mnk im not asking for anything more just let us customize, that is not difficult at all and i guarantee you controller players would be so thankfull as they can really adjust how the game feels to them.

[@movimikey]

LAST SEASON HAD A PLAGUE OF AIMBOT HACKING CONTROLLER PLAYERS. The zero build tournaments were totally hacked and ruined. Epic would rather disable the aim assist than have 100,000 cheaters on the servers during cash cup. That's it.... stop cheating and you will get your controller aim back

[@ezell704]

Bruh aim bot legit has absolutely NOTHINGS to do with aim assist you absolute simpleton 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Hooded_Kenny]

"Aim assist" now is total sh*t basically non-existing so we're now back to square one, if you play on kbm you dominate and controller player maybe better than before but the aiming is total crap compared to kbm and on top of that add the cheaters, so yeah GREAT JOB epic games!

[@leafkefn3774]

Good 😊

[@Leo69IQ]

But you need to know that Unkown Armey was useing a Zen

[@CactusBetter2]

He wasn’t lol

[@rynOCE]

do you know basic English?

[@xzx_lag2974]

No he wasnt that is the biggest myth ever.

[@Leo69IQ]

@@rynOCE im from Germany but i cant speak perfekt English.

[@Leo69IQ]

@@xzx_lag2974 bro he said on Stream: here the Zen isnt even on. But he was useing it the Intire Time

[@andrewpershouse3608]

About time someone did a vid on this i just want to play console players. Or console only mode

[@th3_ne0__]

I’m pretty sure you can turn off cross platform, not too sure if it’ll work if you’re using controller on pc.

[@TraffitiOnFortnite]

Dude not using controller in chapter 2 season 2 was a crime. You were doing it wrong if you played kbm

[@selder03]

Because your OP aim bot makes most controller players depend on it. And don't give me that " mouse makes you flip, and having better movement. " BS

[@Gainsforlife]

Until Epic makes their own controllers, i doubt they will ever put much effort into controller binds and narrowing the gap with kbm.

[@PsyfadZ10]

There's aim bot on controller that plays the game for you.

[@n3kuzya]

​@@PsyfadZ10 epic limited aim assist so much it practically doesn't even exist anymore lmao. I mean I don't want THAT aim assist back, but at least having something for the new dropshot mechanic would be nice: it practically killed the whole point of aim assist itself.

[@PsyfadZ10]

@@n3kuzya its the exact same aim bot as apex legends and warzone lmfao. you poor people are so delusional. get a job so you can aim with your hands and your brain instead of having a program play the game for you

[@Novax52]

@@PsyfadZ10 so you make over 120k a year like me, right?

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

As a keyboard and mouse player if you’re losing to a controller player then you just aren’t as good has you think you are, simple as that

[@BBGOnYT]

9:01 that is chapter 4 season 1

[@Joeyr8]

Yes

[@Jayzzy2020]

i started playing in season 7, i didn't abuse L2 and i was playing on switch, all of my friends know me for having an almost perfect aim. (my principal language is not english so i did my best)

[@fish_R_stinky69]

Aim assist.

[@Conclaps]

And now aim assist is just gone for pc

[@ssolarradesongodfree7716]

Aim assist being non-existent improved my aim because of the fact that we have use projectile weapons

[@男の神]

I’ve started to switch to kbm because I like to learn something new and a challenge unlike some people here 👀

[@Bloef_yt]

We need a game reboot

[@411_Crazy]

9:47 I entirely agree, I play controller on a 140fps monitor and near 0 ping, but one of my friends plays on a monitor caped at 120, and gets around 10-15 ping and he constantly can box me just because box fighting is so much easier on keyboard and mouse, even though I free build better than he does its just box fighting

[@Kyle-fr7ts]

You're making excuses.

[@411_Crazy]

@@Kyle-fr7ts I don’t even play controller anymore this is just what all my friends say who do and I always find it funny

[@Kyle-fr7ts]

@@411_Crazy 🤷‍♂️ making the comment in the first place suggests you think your experience is because you're on controller.

[@rabbitgoats]

the head movments bro

[@IzzyYoutube]

We all talk about kbm and controller but we forget mobile

[@sicoys2736]

AIM assets is like non existent anymore on pc I noticed getting on after awhile not playing but on console it’s like 10x better I played on my friends Xbox and I could actually hit some shots long range without aim assist it’s not even worth playing anymore on controller

[@leafkefn3774]

Look.. the console still has the OP aim assist for The little kiddo’s but controller on pc u need to be talented.. guess what you are not talented

[@damewhin]

LT/L2 spam with the original heavy assult rifle.....👀..😂

[@leafkefn3774]

So funny how back then all y controller shtters was defending Aa claiming it wasnt OP… right yiu guys are so good and so fast w the edits its hard to keep up w controller players as 2000$kbm player 😅

[@DoorTechnicianRick]

Don't hear mouse/keyboard players crying about not having aim assist 😂

[@sentreven5826]

bro point 3 is 1000% percent true😭

[@Maniiscool92]

the aim assist on the newer ars is non existent like i checked for aim assist on the new aug and i felt almost no aimassist this is literally the only reason i carry the scar over the aug cuz the scar still has decent aim assist.they should srsly atleast buff aim assist by 20% on the aug and combat ars because rn they r unusable

[@BruhhhJoseph]

i never knew about L2 spam or LT spam i used to play the game for fun everyday when i got home from school till night without knowing L2/LT Spam on controller , wish i knew what it was back then lmao

[@JustinMentionedIt]

Tbf there’s no way to make things completely fair no matter how they twist it

[@lightskinned_edits]

It isn't unfair, it's just an inferior input

[@danlouie352]

If you talking about comp. Yes. If you talk about regular player. That's totally B.S. It's literally 95% controller now.

[@SSharks99]

As a switch player i beg they buff aim assist. Is 30 fps not enough pain? Give us something pls epic 🙏

[@is0man1]

it's not kvm. kvm stands for keyboard video and mouse and is used to control multiple computers with one mouse and keyboard.

[@papi_chris4643]

I play controller and i can tell it got way harder but you get used to it and get better

[@1TZBREEZY]

Now we have non exist aim assist due to these complaints lol

[@1TZBREEZY]

P.s unknown got caught wit a Cronus

[@CrossedandClipped]

Cuz joystick movement is gawdly (in zb)

[@pandax7323]

What was nickmercs doing bro threw one good pump and started slurping wtf 😂

[@Nisowyd]

Mfs were so ass back then 😂😂

[@Chasepthemc]

You know who they hate more? Console players 😂

[@zigakos2055]

As a controller player who plays on controller 95% of the time, Im better at box fighting on pc.

[@tripszn4337]

You mean on kbm?

[@ExZy_kontseks]

@@tripszn4337yh ppl always say platform instead of input its confusing

[@terrelldavidson101]

you mean kbm

[@connor-2797]

You’re missing the point , kbm players have a better advantage over you mechanically

[@ezell704]

@@connor-2797 that’s what he just said Connor.

[@ChirpoGuy]

You just stole another video. The original video is 9:49, yours is 11:44. you literally added nothing of value.

[@vertachi8066]

Thank god I switched early

[@geogadget1]

Title should’ve been “Why does Epic Love DMA and Zen cheaters?”

[@Maniiscool92]

Bro even kbm players can use soft aim to cheat and be unnoticed

[@geogadget1]

I completely 1000% agree with you. Most of these cheater are on KBM. Not just controller players. It’s freaking ridiculous and it makes the game unplayable. It’s not fun. Your only chance of survival is to have the cheaters wipe themselves out.

[@appolishaze749]

Next video title why does epic hate south African players 🤔 because damn 4 plus years no servers is wild

[@ethanpatrick789]

Pretty simple, they want to make it as competitive and equal as possible. Could be a 20 second video

[@NisusGG]

That Arab video was great.

[@Camion.]

Point 3 is completely valid because controller player dont have enough binds to do everything at once. Buying paddles is too expensive for most players and playing claw is the hardest thing ever

[@terrelldavidson101]

i learned claw in a week

[@QthaKID]

@@terrelldavidson101Want a cookie?

[@terrelldavidson101]

@@QthaKID yes claw is easy

[@prince-bm4xt]

@@terrelldavidson101I’d rather not have arthritis later on

[@terrelldavidson101]

@@prince-bm4xt thats not at all how it works only if you do claw wrong will finger pain happen

[@thecelestialstarship]

Just turn on gyro aim lol, it's literally mouse aiming but on controller You can be WAY more precise when you aren't limited to stick-only

[@dead-oe3bn]

10:42 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@0dd_Ow3nFN]

10:38 why does mero look hella zesty💀

[@shiruetto3534]

Yes, controller players are the minority in the competitive scene. It's more impressive knowing that the majority of Fortnite players play on controlller.

[@WillFuI]

Do any og controller players remember pre editing the cone int la ramp for faster ramp wall rushes

[@jwe88lc]

What ever happened to upshall?

[@johnmcmahan5672]

very informative

[@nicknick_nick]

Stop complaining yall have atleast 100 exclusives and free aimbot.

[@saeedonps592]

I don’t want to get a pc because I play worse on pc than ps5😊

[@ChestnutOnTop]

Bro t3ny just got back to back 2nd places just like the previous controller goat of eu wolfies

[@ceotriston5771]

real ones know its a reupload

[@6luar]

conntroller is so bad now but i only got a pc like a couple months ago and before that i played console , conntroller on an ipad i coudnt play kbm

[@Jaz_on120fps]

Will the goat reply?

[@NisusGG]

controller players crying about "no aim assist" its not hard to aim. If anything this is the best time to be on controller with all the settings. Is it disadvantages to kbm yeah. you dont need aim assist.

[@Devon_spoon21]

Aussie Vakayk got denied

[@exodus_r2]

i still personally play on combat pro and i'm not doing bad!

[@AbeAndTucker]

This is my excuse for being bad

[@Danny-zw7sw]

Cheaters kind of forced their hand. It’s been out of control and people don’t even know. The low key aim assist cheaters that are hard to detect are so prevalent these days, it’s sad and hard for Epic to combat.

[@PsyfadZ10]

There's no difference between actual cheating and aim "assist."

[@cheese_2_drippy]

I play on kbm but I like to play a little bit of controller sometimes and I’m alright mechanically but I have really bad aim 😭

[@L3G10Npl]

Good good it's shooter use damn mouse and keyboard

[@ElvisElly]

Am a controller player but I still shit on kbm player

[@Skrywex]

Bruh aim asist should be buffed

[@PsyfadZ10]

Perfect, flawless aim bot that plays for you and makes it so you have no recoil or flinch should be buffed? That's crazy.

[@prince-bm4xt]

@@PsyfadZ10u must be sped. There’s literally little to no aim assist on controller now a days.

[@PsyfadZ10]

@@prince-bm4xt lol you're so poor you have to play on controller. i wonder why you feel this way. maybe if you weren't so poor, your iq would be higher and you could hit shots with perfect aim bot. sorry perfect aim bot isnt enough for you.

[@Schinzo__]

If you’re on pc losing to a controller player you’re just bad