Why does God allow Evil? | Problem of Evil Refuted

Today we'll cover the Problem of Evil, and using Sacred Scripture and St Thomas Aquinas, we will show why God allows evil to occur.
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Cajetan: Commentary on Prima Pars, Question 22
Garrigou-Lagrange - Commentary on Prima Pars and his Treatise on Providence
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[@GeneveMec]

@SanctusTheology Young Man, Aquinas, Garrigou Lagrange, Cajetan, Augustine et al -- You were once in the seminary or have a degree in theology. As the former master of ceremonies for H.E. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre at Econe (1979-1984) I'm here to tell you that you could not have done a better job. Oremus pro invicem.

[@cabbagereviews8513]

I like Brian Davies’ answer which is that God is not a moral agent with some obligation to actively stop evil. Now he can’t do evil cuz he’s all good but his all good nature doesn’t entail that he must stop evil to be good

[@cuong091087]

It was me when my first child was stillborn. I was ready to given up on Him, picking up the Bible just to put it away. The book flipped from my fingers, and open at that very passage, Job 38. It still took me days to know that I have to return to Him.

[@randnew1]

It's because we sin. God's perfectly just

[@truecatholic1]

God can not formally approve of evil, but He is capable of bringing a greater good out of evil. It is the abuse of free will of humans and demons which cause problems.

[@truthboom]

The greater good is evil for the countless who died before us, Enduring Suffering and Evil. The afterlife is just a copy of the countless fallen, not the original one.

[@TheAngelicDoctor]

Free will theodicy doesn’t work in Thomism.

[@truecatholic1]

@TheAngelicDoctor I don't know what you are talking about about, but I think that St. Thomas would agree with me. It is CERTAIN that God can't sin, and good can come out of evil.

[@TheAngelicDoctor]

​@truecatholic1 kinda dissapointed in everyone who liked ur comment. Don't know why you're putting words in my mouth either. I never said that God can sin and ngl I'm lowkey offended that ur insinuating that I would hold that position, even if, to you, I am anonymous, given how grave that would be. Also, I didn't say good can't come from evil. Nothing you said in anyway responds to my original comment. Thomas does *not* use a free-will theodicy to account for why things are the way they are. This is because he knows that human free will is actuated and moved by God "strongly and sweetly" such that he moves us as a primary cause : secondary cause. It would therefore not make sense, because the primary cause, God, moves his creatures towards determinate effects even whilst maintaining the free mode of human willing. This is not at all to say that God sins or is the cause of sin qua moral. But God does cause sin qua being. That is to say, he gives the act of sin its being, itsofar as it may be said to exist. It therefore just doesn't make sense to say that the reason things are the way they are is *simply* because of human free-will: because it is principally God who moves all men to their final end (whether they reach it or not). There is no such thing as a wholly self determining freedom of will such that it is ontologically disconnected from God as first mover. And, unless God delegates a certain perfection to his rational creatures that they may operate in accordance with right reason, they will necessarily fail given that they have no being as of themselves or goodness as of themselves, but are rather defectible by nature. This is why we pray for grace: that God may govern our actions and direct us, interiorly, suaviter et fortiter, to our final end with Him.

[@johan_liebert2385]

@@TheAngelicDoctori agree with all that you said but it’s kinda obvious that the people in the comment section are talking about the moral aspect, not its ontology.

[@gabrielortiz3811]

For me it also took the realization that we all chose to be evil but we still exists. If we still exists then we have a chance to chose to do good with God's help of course.

[@NajmiNames]

There is no problem of evil. It’s a loaded question to begin with

[@truecatholic1]

It is something of a mystery, but it isn't a reason for disbelief. So long as intelligent beings are capable of sin and suffering is a part of life there will be some evil.

[@jussim.konttinen4981]

​@@truecatholic1 Goodness doesn't exist without consciousness. In the perfect world, we would be seaweed.

[@truecatholic1]

@@jussim.konttinen4981 Goodness is congruent with existence in a certain sense. Evil is a defect. With regards to life, goodness is a matter of suitability.

[@uverpro3598]

@@jussim.konttinen4981Yes.

[@alessandrolorello7078]

I suggest everyone to read a little book by Jacques Maritain entitled "God and the permission of evil". It helps understand this topic a little bit better.

[@cristopheridlc]

I believe that evil is, in some way, a necessity to occur because of free will. Free will is a greater good than a world where there is no evil, because it allows us to love freely and genuinely. A world without the possibility of evil would imply a world without free will. The capacity to choose freely, including the risk of choosing wrongly, is a greater good than the absence of free will.

[@existential_o]

This video exclusively responds to a certain kind of evil-moral evils (3:00). However, it’s been recognized that there’s another kind of evil, which originates in nature itself (e.g. natural disasters, evolutionary suffering, etc.) These evils can be called natural evils, or evils that exist independent of any moral action. If one’s response is only the free will defense, then one leaves all natural evils simply unaccounted for.

[@SanctusTheology]

@existential_o Saving this for a soon to be video.

[@SantiagoAaronGarcia]

Very true. Natural evils were sometimes attributed to fallen angels like Satan (an example is the book of Job). Alvin Plantinga, and many others, expanded the "free-will defense" in order to account for all types of evil, including natural disasters. That is not the view that I hold. I just wanted to make clear that corruption in nature can be due to angelic (fallen) or human free-will. Natural disasters or horrendous types of evil may be explained by other kinds of causes. In any case, the existence of evil poses a problem to each and every worldview.

[@existential_o]

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[@tsukasa67]

Natural evils are actually way easier to explain than moral evils. When Adam and Eve sinned, they didn't just break their relationship between themselves and God, they broke their relationship with the whole of creation. Had they never sinned, we know exactly what things would look like with regard to natural evils. The lion would lay down with the lamb. We would be able to sit in the middle of raging wildfires without a single head on our hairs being singed. We would walk on water and calm storms and praise the Lord for his goodness and power all the while. Natural evils quite simple don't exist, especially in the way we conceive of them and experience them now, in a world where the fall never occurs.

[@The_Practical_Daydreamer]

Tragedy is not evil, though. There is a major difference between an old woman falling off a ladder, and an old woman being shoved off a ladder. Christianity's moral teachings mean followers will not produce evil, and faith means we can produce good in the middle of tragedy.

[@CatholicDraft]

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[@deblobvis264]

God punnishes evil and they call Him evil. God tolerates evil and they call Him not omnipotent. God prohibits evil and they call Him a tyrant

[@HunnysPlaylists]

In other words, "why does God let me do these things" doesn't sound anywhere near as self-aggrandizing. Which is why they play word games!

[@axxel9626]

Short answer: God allows evil cause it's part of His plan. Taken from Romans 9.

[@CoreyJason]

omnia in bonum

[@Jb11245]

Honestly, if such horrors were “part of his plan”, I would want nothing to do with it. Christ saves us from this pointless evil and suffering, which was not intended to be part of the natural world. Imagine having to justify to a 25 year old mother why her breast cancer was a part of God’s plan. A much better response is that it was not; and now in the new creation “there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor any more pain, for the former things have past away..”

[@axxel9626]

@@Jb11245 sorry but, who are you? God said it pretty clearly in the Bible, that He does whatever He pleases (Psalms 115:3). He works all things for good for those who are His elects (Romans 8:28). If it's part of God's plan for a woman to get breast cancer, let it be so.

[@midnightclad7101]

Wait for the atheists who didn't watch the video say "you never refuted it 😂"

[@Jakov-or7fp]

I don't see those types of comments....ever.

[@midnightclad7101]

@tshepangmohale173 I have seen that response quite often (on atheist comment sections)

[@WangenzzeApologetics]

You never refuted it

[@dmam412]

You have no evidence!

[@HunnysPlaylists]

@Jakov-or7fp happens over every Christian video since the start.

[@NoSalvationWithoutPenance-m6m]

We must distinguish the existence of evil from the possibility of the existence of evil. The former arises from man's free will, while the latter is permitted by God as a necessary condition for free will to exist. I love your channel!!

[@VladTepesh409]

Psalm 34:21 _Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate._ Proverbs 16:4 _The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil._ 1 John 3:12 _Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous._

[@dynamic9016]

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[@HunnysPlaylists]

Also, evil is not a thing, therefore there is not a problem of evil because the absense is not Natural and is caused by created things. Therefore it implicates the questioner in a way they do not want to be exposed. That's why they sneer about it.

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[@VeritasonTheology]

I like this video because instead of spurging philosophical nonsense you used sacred scripture, well done

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[@elsenor3252]

isn't this problem also called the " Epicurian paradox " ?

[@mcfloridaman2192]

this is a good explanation, my only question would be how I should respond to an atheist who says this contradicts the Bible as said in romans 12:22 "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" it seems that God doesn't support the use of evil to achieve a greater good in this passage. How would you refute this claim, because there has to be a smart theological reason that I am just too stupid to have figured out yet lol

[@johan_liebert2385]

I think that there is some unnamed law of the universe that represents Gods will so that everything is made to be Good but if evil were to come, God’s automatic response is the bring the best of it. This is different from greater good theology because he isn’t doing something bad to justify a great end rather, he is taking what is bad and remedying it or making it “better” so to speak. That’s how I think of it

[@mcfloridaman2192]

@ but considering that our Lord is all powerful, why allow it in the first place? Ultimately it’s some greater reason that I will never completely understand like the Holy Trinity, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have some grasp on it.

[@johan_liebert2385]

@ why allow evil? Logically speaking there is no possible world where there are free creatures that don’t eventually choose evil at some point. If God stops all evil then all sentient creatures would disappear. We would be robots that can’t choose anything for themselves

[@mcfloridaman2192]

@ God is all powerful though, and when we go to heaven we will still be sentient and free of sin. God's angels are also sentient, but free of sin too... the ones who didn't rebel or sit indifferently when Satan revolted

[@NysJohnson]

I was patiently waiting for what Thomas Aquinas will say on it. ✝️

[@waceyseufer7083]

The best answer I've found regarding questions like why God allows this or that, or why do bad things happen to good people, or why me, God, why me... is "IT'S ONLY AN ANNOYANCE." This life is temporary. This pain is temporary. Yes, bad things are gonna happen, but once you get to Heaven, you'll understand that all that pain, no matter how much you're in right now, is nothing compared to what's in store for us in eternity. And it's hard for us to imagine, ESPECIALLY now and in this world... But it too will pass. It hurts now, but it'll be worth it. I know this is NOT the answer that most of you were expecting. But from my 34.99999 years of life, that's the best I can come up with. PS: I think I got this story from a Saint, but can't remember which one said it (the "It's only an annoyance" thing). If ANYONE can tell me who it was or where to look, that'd be amazing! Thank you for the video and God Bless.

[@gabrielkarlsson417]

your videos have gotten me intressed in Theology (st Thomas Aquinas, st Augustine) I am currently thinking about taking some theology coureses to start with, and maybe in the future i will look into a vocation as a priest or a deacon

[@Shockz161]

Name of song starting at 3:00

[@IamFrog21]

Job is my favorite book in the Bible

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[@lga_]

A world where evil exists and is overcome by good, is a more perfect world than one where evil never existed. Good is exalted by fulfilling its ultimate purpose: to destroy evil. And it seems that this is a more perfect world than a world where evil never existed.

[@Ozcarz505]

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[@HunnysPlaylists]

The Prophet Job Teaches in many words what St Paul did in one sentence: "A man who has God and nothing, has the same as a man who has God and everything.

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[@angelocicognini6174]

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[@Jb11245]

Can you really refute such a problem in a 6 minute video? I could for instance point to Ivan’s objection to this argument in the Brother’s Karamazov (evil done to innocent children). So no it is not “refuted”.

[@RzApologistt]

Absence of good

[@zanguzao]

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[@RzApologistt]

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[@RzApologistt]

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[@zanguzao]

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[@befast1973-g2f]

God creates evil.

[@dabidibup]

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[@snugglyduck6534]

Well stated. In its simplicity, Evil is Live reverse - it's a choice: Life/Death - Creation/Destruction. It's more complicated on a manifest/myth level, the "dream" danger, but that is for our Lord to share in wisdom with someone: Proverbs 9.

[@HunnysPlaylists]

In other words, God has no obligation to make these questioners look good. this sets them right off.

[@LightoZtriker]

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[@JohnsonSmith-p5d]

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[@HunnysPlaylists]

pain and humiliation proves one is not God.

[@Jb11245]

I can think of one exception!

[@aliceinwonderland4395]

This isn't really the best refutation against this argument, to be honest. The simple reality of Christianity is that God permits evil because he permits humanity, his own creation that is in his own image (mind and intellect), to exist in a state of pure free will, agency/autonomy and understanding of morality. If we're to be creations in the image of God then we must be able to commit both good and evil actions, otherwise there is a huge contradiction, and to accommodate for this the universe must be in a state of being that naturally allows for good and evil actions to be commitable, otherwise again there is a huge contradiction.

[@williamgreenfield9991]

God doesn't "allow" evil, he IS evil.

[@CoreyJason]

You’re screwed then, mate.

[@truthboom]

@@CoreyJason not yet, Almighty God had infinite more chance to exist than Evil God. Almighty God is Existence/Reality itself. It had nothing in common to the God in religion

[@tracemcgoatly8571]

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[@truthboom]

@ Your refutation is 3x worse than what you described

[@midnightclad7101]

Heretic detected, opinion rejected