Why Does No One Care About The Climate Anymore? & 2024's Biggest Surprise

[@jezlawrence720]

I really love Rory's house. I mean yes, its bigger and nicer than anything I'll ever afford, but that's not what I mean. I just like that his place always looks like it is properly lived in. Things don't perfectly match. Books and lampshades aren't perfectly straight. There's sometimes a random knicknack left out, non-themed pictures on the wall... its just a really welcoming, human-looking place. Alastairs too, but he's much more obviously in his own space, whereas rory, despite probably having a dozen rooms to choose from, always looks like he's just nabbed the living room or kitchen for a bit.

[@xuyangxu]

I just wish Rory would stop grimacing so much during every single video

[@lauradunn1619]

sometimes wishes do come true

[@paultrussy]

Good observations 👍

[@danielo7985]

​@@xuyangxuDoesnt he suffer from migranes?

[@fredohara3693]

Rory Stewart is such a good bloke. A decent man.

[@DSTH323]

Have you read his interesting books? Full of eloquent passive-aggressive malice towards colleagues with books as retribution for their disagreeing with him. He poses as a "center-right" angelic bloke in the hopes of not being discovered. Despite the observation I enjoy listening. From time to time they break off into real insight.

[@Vasquez-t9k]

If you haven’t read ebook titled The Elite Society's Money Manifestation yet, you’re seriously missing out. It’s a total game changer

[@limeyjoe1632]

I don't think people put together climate change with the economic impact it will increasingly have. We are going to end up spending more and more money sorting out climate related issues, it's going to affect our economy hugely. By 2050 we will be spending a vast amount of money patching up the damage of increasing climate disasters.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

By 2050 Corp.Gov will have looted every 1c pfennig of your could-have-been-wonderful Boomer inheritance. CENTURY of hard labour gone, taken from you like stealing a bon-bon from a low-IQ Gretan. lPCC's June 2023 "Hottest Day on Record!" had buried in the report *"...climate model simulation..."* _It has been increasingly FAKE climate model simulations ever since._ al-Göre's eco-terrörists Carbon Cap & Trade Scheme (actual legal name) is *greenwashing dispensations to pollute!* ln'dia Climate Change© is demanding $1,4Tn ransom as 'climate reparations' (sic) *when lN'DIA'S top export is FOSSIL FUELS!*

[@totallybored5526]

Considering that energy companies generate billions in profit a year, shouldn’t they use that money to invest in green energy instead passing the costs onto us?

[@davegold]

Politicians don't put together the economic impact: they either are either against action due to cost or for action but ignoring costs. This goes back to failures 20 years ago not to invest massively in new technologies and design, giving cheaper solutions today.

[@eoingibb]

I think you are misunderstanding that people prioritise - and ultimately living affordability is a today issue whereas the climate is a tomorrow issue. Its that simple. Fix the cost of living crisis and people will have space to breath and think about tomorrow.

[@normanlazarus1836]

I agree but would also add that there’s a bunch of things that many people would prioritise ahead of climate (housing, immigration to name just 2). The problem is that there’ll always be more pressing priorities than something that will (or may) become an issue at some indeterminate time in the future.

[@alexkat8297]

If someones thinks that dealing with climate change now is too costly, they should ask themselves what's the ultimate price of the alternative

[@normanlazarus1836]

@ The problem (as far as I see it) is that no one knows the cost of dealing with climate change is. If you implement the demands of JSO then what are the costs of replacing all gas & oil furled domestic heating boilers & removing all fossil fuelled vehicles from the road, all of this is to be implemented by 2030? Once the costs of that have been calculated the question then becomes what effect on climate change will this have for a country who contributes less than 2% of global CO2 emissions?

[@tonyaustin3792]

The problem no one seems to grasp is that there’s a catastrophe getting so close…runaway climate change…. it’s like a bunch of folk standing on a seafront with elaborate plans for a protective barrier, arguing about the cost but not looking up a tsunami on the horizon.

[@TheStobb50]

One of my highlights of the year was finding this channel

[@MarkT-f1w]

Labour did very well on the back everyone wanting to get rid of the tories. Labour have been a disaster since then, which is a pity but undeniable.

[@somekindofhmm]

Commendable humility and maturity on Rory's part to talk about the ways that his public humiliation was good for him. Honestly am going to keep that in mind as I go about my life.

[@neilrmartin1984]

Or while you're tucking into the finest tuna steak in West London

[@ollywright]

It’s mercifully simple: wealth inequality has become extreme and continues to grow. Until that happens very large numbers of people will become increasingly angry and disenchanted with mainstream politics. Luigi Mangione is a symptom, there will be more.

[@greebj]

I wonder if Americans have yet realised that he used the 2nd amendment to target the actual tyranny present in their lives, instead of the "big" federal government that they pay taxes to in return for "socialism" like infrastructure and public healthcare that they always bang on about

[@matthewwelch973]

Can somebody tell Rory to stop reading all the negative comments on X. We all ger things wrong but i really enjoy his insight especially on international politics. Through this podcast i have learnt so much about politics around the world that i would never had known about if i followed the mainstream. Just hope 2025 is a much better year than 2024.

[@kimvernon9416]

He and everyone need to get off X. Now a hard right platform.

[@matthewwelch973]

@@kimvernon9416 yeah I came off that platform ages ago. It's just all so toxic and they deliberately promote content that's going to create an angry reaction

[@thomasullmann7447]

There's been the insinuation that our lifestyles won't need to change to deal with climate change. Tihs is pertinently false, especially with regards to transportation and food production/consumption. This sets us up for missed target after missed target, making the electorate feel helpless and escapist. We need to sell the story of a better, healthier lifestyle that makes us happier, as well as the planet. Stability is underrated.

[@DSTH323]

While Rory and company are jet-flying all over the earth...

[@Alistair-q4m]

People are not "moaning" guys, living standards are stagnating / falling, and inequality is exploding all over the world, particularly in the US, UK, Australia etc, you are both shielded from this due to your wealth and privileged standings, but not grasping this will limit your ability to understand events, such as Rory with the US election, as soon as I heard him talk about that on the election night, with zero mention of cost of living, I knew he had missed something. Love your work.

[@ruthmeb]

Like Trump gives a rat's arse about ordinary Americans beyond getting power.

[@grodesby3422]

@@ruthmebOr indeed any politician ever

[@Alistair-q4m]

@@ruthmeb Of course Trump doesn't care, I think hes horrendous, but my criticism was that Rory didn't seem to see the elephant in room which was cost of living, and that the narrative had successfully pinned the blame for inflation on the democrats... and that we shouldn't dismiss peoples grievances on that topic as "moaning"... (as Alastair appeared to)

[@macsmiffy2197]

I shall look forward to reading Who owns England. I live in Norfolk where it is still positively Feudal in many ways. I read that 30% of the land has been in the same families since 1066.

[@dudududuFthetories]

The irony of expressing sorrow about the matter of climate change and then going on to brag about your jet setting lifestyles.

[@gailfg2211]

Hypocrites.

[@ruthmeb]

@@gailfg2211 personal flying makes relatively little impact

[@Gumberculesus]

@@ruthmeb but personal driving and consumption makes massive impact for us peasants right? That's why we have to pay more or go without.

[@edfort5704]

@@Gumberculesus The concept of raising awareness about issues so that we all at least think about them and work to implement lifestyle changes to be more sustainable does not strike you as a possibility on their part? We can all use natural resources while at the same time being aware of their scarcity and side effects on nature and our own lives. That's what it takes to build a sustainable future. That and much more.

[@paullambert8183]

Personal meat eating also makes very little impact

[@richardhuckle5715]

Concentration of wealth is probably the main issue. Migration is mostly people from poorer countries moving to countries they believe will offer them a chance to create wealth for their families. Property prices inflated by investment buyers who buy multiple properties to rent out at high prices. As soon as any Government tries to tackle wealth inequalities with tax changes such as inheritance tax changes, all of the powerful interested parties then try to convince the voting population that the Government are acting against everyone's interests. And this Labour Government made a massive mistake with the Winter Fuel Allowance and by going too far with the employers NI rise, which will reduce employment and make economic growth more difficult to achieve.

[@dangin8811]

Housing crisis is a problem because of immigration.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

@@dangin8811 Dude. There are a quarter of a million residential properties in England which have been vacant for more than 6 months, and another 400,000 which are currently vacant. The roots of the housing crisis are really in the sell-off of social housing without replenshishment.

[@JZTechEngineering]

@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15tyou need to have some vacant houses so that people can actually move, and just because a house is vacant doesn't mean it's where people want to live or that it's safe to live there

[@tombblades]

It's not like people dont care about the climate. it's more of a case of the climate being a long-term issue. High taxes, high prices, immigration, healthcare, and the conflicts in the world all represent a day-to-day crisis that is more pressing a matter than the climate.

[@rinkydinkfretboard8737]

Feels about as likely to have a nuclear holocaust before CC bites as hard as that event would. So yep, amongst the rest of it…….in the list of urgent concerns of the average person it’s quite far back. Our leading politicians that care about the future (few and far between) lack leadership, and haven’t worked out well enough or explained To joe public how green policies will improve THEIR life. We all think it’s obvious but the “voter” needs to have it written on the side of a bus nowadays…….or…..news media needs to be un dumbed down…..(good luck with either). But tue real kicker that NO ONE Has addressed. Which is so obvious, that even how public can see it, is that emerging powers that care even less than us will make up for any improvement anyone else makes by using the headroom to grow their own economy and/or military power. With which in turn they will then use the increase in power to add even further to the problem. In short, it’s not solvable. Doesn’t mean we should be part of the problem, or that attempting to solve it won’t help or be of benefit to us. All of those things are true. But……..CC is happening, will happen, and is unstoppable. Our children or their children etc etc…..will have to face it. Period. Top 5 amongst reasons that I don’t have children. Not the only……but it’s up there. So btw when JSO blocks my street…..they should know……..if they have children they are exponentially more part of the problem than me. Hypocrites.

[@rinkydinkfretboard8737]

Not to mention, as you say actual conflict with totaly unconcerned powers currently in expansionist mode……the conquered lands will also add to the problem, so fighting those wars to oppose this is absolutely an environmental issue, long term. But that wouldn’t be the end of it. Never is.

[@annettekearney9798]

All the things you highlight are indirectly linked to climate like immigration, housing health.

[@rinkydinkfretboard8737]

@@annettekearney9798 it’s linked to those things as a medium to long term effect. Which I suspect was the OP’s point. Not that CC is not pressing. But taking war as an example, there are territories under armed occupation…..right now. Don’t know if you’ve ever been at war, but that pretty much takes precedence over EVERYTHING ELSE. hard to plan infrastructure improvements, much less environmental policy under such conditions.

[@mogznwaz]

And they ignore smaller more achievable goals - like reducing consumption, like lowering the population in places where it’s just adding to the numbers (4-8 billion in 50 years is insanity and no one in the political class addresses it - instead they seen to be intent on moving everyone into the West and turning them into more 1st world consumers), reducing the amount of pointless plastic tat being shipped around the world by China and costing peanuts therefore encouraging the consumption of more such tat.

[@adampascoe1084]

How can the climate be a priority when the cost of living is rising, and yet the green levy on on our energy bills - over £200 a year in the UK is going on paying subsidies to power stations like Drax who are getting billions of pounds to burn primary woodland. Why is the British tax payer paying for this? We can’t afford new cars, because they are ridiculously expensive, but the tax is being increased from April. We are not seeing any benefit for the costs that we are being forced to pay, the narrative is being distorted - and frankly we’ve had enough. the real polluters aren’t paying, the water companies are dumping record levels of pollutants into our rivers and now WE have to pay more due to their lack of investment and mismanagement. Enough is enough!

[@odi299]

Thank you, Alastair Campbell, for being so objective and balanced in this podcast episode. Your thoughtful insights and ability to present different perspectives make the discussion both engaging and enlightening. It’s always refreshing to hear such a fair and nuanced approach to important topics.

[@keirmitchell5560]

He is another loony lefty who thinks he is better than the majority.

[@user-ge3jk6fg1l]

What?

[@clario2178]

😂😂😂 drinking early

[@jasonsheath3294]

Climate change and by extension environmental principles have always largely been "luxury items" for the West and more broadly for affluent societies. This is well documented. And since almost everything that is required for wide spread systemic change are green policies that are not only more inconvenient but also more $$$ people are no longer supportive in a massive affordability crisis. Canadian here with farming background. Our ruling Liberals have implemented a "revenue neutral" [completely false] carbon tax here that people are fed up with because despite the gaslighting from government and activists - it has clearly massively hiked the cost of food production which obviously gets people angry. Farmers and ranchers and even greenhouse operators are being slammed by huge and stacked (on an input which goes to the next input + tax etc) cost increases in things like fertilizer, energy, transport costs which have caused them to either adapt and substantially raise prices if they can OR like many local greenhouse operators and farms - shut down - making us far more dependent on food shipped (at great carbon costs) from outside the country from areas that do not have carbon taxes. Farmers are affected by climate change and many of them are supportive of measures to deal with it. However, there are just NOT economical, feasible and effective options for them to transform their industry at such a rapid pace. So all the carbon tax does instead of driving them to "other low carbon options" as is the stated aim of the tax - is just hikes the cost of their inputs and products making many of them unable to compete especially in an affordability crisis like the one we are going through here. Added to that it makes us more food insecure as a nation AND does nothing to reduce overall global emissions. Food bank use in Canada has increased NINETY PERCENT in just the last 5 years. In a G7 country this is obscene. This is partly why the current leader Trudeau and his government are facing electoral wipeout and why he is so viscerally despised by voters at the moment while he jet sets around the globe and preens for the cameras as he virtue signals his green bona fides - while Canada is dealing with so many problems. In 40 years of watching politics I have never seen a leader both so clueless and so hated. People in Canada will be celebrating in the streets the day he leaves power.

[@normanlorrain]

All religions run their course.

[@Caerdan]

29:13 can somebody please tell me the name of the documentary filmmaker? I can't work out what Alastair is saying.

[@scarfacekvdm]

With AI moving ahead full steam, the wealth inequality will become even wider and unless governments start moving to an equitable basic income scheme, we will see lots of social upheaval, couple misinformation with that and the whole world will be unstable. If we tackle income inequality we will have the opportunity to tackle climate change.

[@MisterstereoOso]

Jeremy Paxman wrote a book years ago called “ Friends in high places” ( who really owns Britain) turned out the whole kingdom is owned by only 30 or so families, ……..

[@peteberrie]

Lovely to hear Alistair name "The Outrun" as his favourite film of 2024. Saoirse Ronan is indeed an amazing actor but this film is close to my heart because it was in part filmed right next door to where my family live in Orkney and where I hope to live one day soon. I'm really enjoying The Rest Is Politics (including Leading and USA) which I only discovered earlier this year. Keep it up guys.

[@jlpowell51]

It doesn't matter if people care about the climate or not, governments aren't in a position to effectively address the issue and also get re-elected. As a politician you can pick one or the other, guess which they ultimately pick? It is the same problem with the debt crisis in the US. It is going to take some significant austerity measures to deal with either of these issues and you can't run for re-election on austerity measures. ...and hey, let's not kid ourselves. Even if the West were perfect on the climate issue the rest of the world would find all that cheap oil laying around irresistible. Until some breakthroughs are made in energy production such that fossil fuels are no longer the most economical they will continue to be used regardless of damage to the environment.

[@ExiledGypsy]

Rory is clearly unaware of Australian reputation. Australia is a controlled oligarchy. But neither of you go anywhere except the 5 star hotels and TV. Go to Sydney and try to find a place to live on social security and see where you end up. Then stay there if you can stand it for six months and then come and tell us that Australia is wonderful.

[@MisterstereoOso]

Boys in a bubble…

[@WVislandia]

The videos showing the damage in western North Carolina in the US - as the videos of flooding in Spain - are heartbreaking. A recent video by the meteorology department in India highlighted that low-lying clouds seem to be fewer - and these are the clouds that shield and return Sun's rays from Earth. And the spokesperson on that video said, 'we don't fully understand the processes.' Governments have failed to fund research and now they just pretend 'nothing to do with me, mate' when people lose children, homes, belongings to heavy floods caused by unusually heavy rains. It seems that no one in governments wants to recognise - this isn't going to get any better by doing the same thing as in years past.

[@grahamcutting7363]

In terms of faithful reconstructions of destroyed buildings check out Cloth Hall in Ypres. The town was basically razed in WWI but is now a vibrant market-town.

[@Alistair-q4m]

thanks Rory and Alastair. Please, in 2025, dont let labour get away with their moronic "make brexit work" strategy, we have all given them a chance to do sensible things in government, but its clear so far that on the EU topic they will not do anything unless they are forced to, ie to win the next election. Please hold them to account.

[@AT-gr4qx]

People do care about the climate, they also care about sensible energy policy and not crippling the economy (and household budgets) in pursuit of a misleading interpretation of "net zero".

[@andybrice2711]

Yes. Precisely this. Our current environmental policy makes no sense. Reducing our own emissions to zero will have a negligible impact on global emissions. And offshoring our industry to China will be actively damaging to the environment. Whilst both will be be devastating to our economy.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

You do realise that investing in green technology would grow the economy, not just would it create new jobs and works programmes. The products can then be sold abroad making more money.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

​@@andybrice2711 lead by example and then we can sell the technology to the late comers and make lots and lost of money. Why is there is modern British mentality of following the pack never wanting to be a world leaders, never wanting to make money from opportunities right in front of us.

[@andybrice2711]

@@Alex-cw3rz Absolutely! Investing in green tech R&D is the approach we should be taking. But instead our current approach is mostly just to import lots of products and offshore our industry.

[@AT-gr4qx]

@Alex-cw3rz what "green" product do you think we can develop and manufacture at a price that would remain competitive with China? Also, none of the proponents in labour are even using this as an argument for pursuing net zero, they basically claim it is worth doing for it's own sake. Which the public seem to have seen through and realised it is for personal political/reputational gain of those that push it.

[@ruthmeb]

Additional shout out for Percival David collection. Stunning.

[@bthjf12003]

Does the Green party in France, UK, Germany still care About The Climate or are more interested in identity politics? Later listening to them ....

[@JohnJohnson-mt9yt]

They rebuild burnt buildings all the time and successfully without having to tell the world they’d done the greatest thing ever

[@ups1art]

You weren’t alone, Rory.. I’d never’ve had Trump down to win, either. (That said, I’ve come to seriously doubt my own judgment since the referendum)

[@user-ge3jk6fg1l]

Most of us with half a brain and a sense of what is wrong in the world knew Trump would win

[@damiantow]

I think the problem is projecting your own optimism and values onto others and expecting them to think the same way!

[@ups1art]

@@damiantow True enough.

[@andybrice2711]

I'd guess you probably have an imbalance in what opinion you're seeing. I try to hear a range of perspectives which broadly represent the population. And I think that made it clear that Trump had a good chance of winning.

[@DamianTow-s4h]

@@andybrice2711 Could be, but I have no reason to listen to right wing commentators as it would just make me angry 😉

[@seanfaherty]

Is this rhetorical or are you just too stunned to realize people are scrambling to meet basic needs ?

[@arcjones1991]

Thanks for the dedication to the content. It lovely to have balanced perspective and in-depth knowledge so readily available.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

We are in the de ath throws of Neoliberalism, the Conservatives have to ignore climate change as it proves the government has a very important purpose and that private companies have failed to self regulate.

[@greebj]

yeah but what worries me is what comes next, corporate sponsored fascist kleptocracy? as society degrades into a stagemanaged struggle between the acceptable poor who are tricked into believing they are wealthy, and the unacceptable poor who realise the truth that they are not and never will be

[@davegold]

Are you talking about the same Conservative government that generated 25% of UK energy from wind power using market based solutions?

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@davegold 1. were these set up by the tories 2. There is a big difference between the d eath throws and in 2010 when it was seen as secure, because even after the 2008 recession people hadn't turned against it. 3. Where did I say the market would not be included, also I don't think tax breaks and subsidies is really market based do you?

[@RaysTrack]

I second the recommendation for Patriot.

[@RCB2010]

Most of the comments on here are just repetitive bots agreeing with other bots. If the user name doesn’t give it away, the constant use of the ‘crying with laughter’ emoji in 2024 should be enough to alert one that the post is irrelevant.

[@totallybored5526]

😂

[@tommonk7651]

As an American, I don’t think I will ever get over the result of the 2024 election. Just a horrible result and a nightmare for our country and the world, though I did love your coverage….

[@gunagleizde57]

Odessa is not in Crimea

[@ruthmeb]

Yes it is. Hth.

[@gunagleizde57]

@ i think you’ll find this thing called map fascinating

[@drscopeify]

The fight against Climate Change reminds me of the famous Washington Naval Treaty - where the world's top Naval powers in 1922 a few years after WWI ended, agreed to limit the size of future war ships. However the nations began eyeing and spying each other due to fears of violating the treaty as it would lead to a substantial upper hand in a future Naval conflict. In 1936 the treaty was up for renewal as it was set to expire, Italy had began viewing Germany as it's primary ally and began violating the treaty multiple times, France had violated the treaty and Japan had demanded it's Navy was assured parity with Brittan and America which refused to agree to that so the treaty collapsed. As Climate Change agreements risk weakening growth, industry in countries who implement strong environmental policy and as such weaken their military by a reduction in industrial capacity - this will be a similar suspicion that other world powers will knowingly cheat or manipulate data to prevent them from weakening their industrial base to allow them to wage war with superiority on their side. Clearly that would be China, Russia, India, while the west would either self sacrifice their ability to wage war and industry or end the agreements. In the end Climate Change in my view, will be a game of mitigation.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

Japan's navy *had* parity with the the British and American Pacific fleets. The Japanese had no need to operate in the Atlantic or Indian oceans, areas in which both the RN and USN had a significant degree of interest.

[@FrancescoTonin-x4n]

These two guys are amazing!

[@tahiti1]

Not all incumbent parties did worse, in Mexico Morena increased share both in presidential and congressional vote, 57% and 77% of the vote!!

[@andreslinares6429]

Dune 2 is the film of the year. An extraordinary cautionary tale about messiahs

[@billshun3963]

” drill, baby drill.” What is wrong with that? America has the right to drill like any other country.

[@ruthmeb]

And a responsibility to the future. No rights without responsibilities.

[@billshun3963]

@ so let other countries do the DRILLING for America.

[@HaniaTauqeer-c2k]

Thx to Alistair’s recommendation a few weeks ago, I’ve been watching the Empress on Netflix. Phenomenal show, definitely better in German than English

[@douttadodge]

please no more Stephen Fry stories ..

[@annettekearney9798]

Have George monbiot on leading please.

[@JohnJohnson-mt9yt]

The tuna thing is £150 per head - totally not worth it, go to a sushi bar and pay £10 for as much as anyone with a brain would want to eat

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

The parties in Ireland have 200 years of failure, although the country is only 100 years old.

[@northoftheequator2094]

Lots of pundits get it wrong. Politics is not an exact science. Ask Aristotle. The only reason why Alastair gets things less wrong is because of his predilection to play safe.

[@LCliffhanger]

People dont care as much about Climate change because people are more engaged with short-term politics and the big polarising topics like woke/anti-woke, pro-choice/pro-life, peaceful/violent protests and demonstrations, Israel/Palestine, Immigration, hell even Ukraine falls in and out of popularity. So Climate is something people think is important but dont often care about or simply dont have the attention span for, compared to everything else, it's a very dull topic. Most people agree that it's an issue, it's deniers are easily dismissed, but it cant be fixed quickly and the only areas of debate how achievable the goals are, and how best to achieve them.

[@poplarboydavid]

When you two walk the talk, provide an audit of your uses, we’ll take you seriously 🤔

[@NigelPlant-vn8hu]

You say about climate change : in this podcast: why don’t you get on people involved in technology to slow down climate change and the work that they do ? & get people on to tell us the public how we can make a difference in our lives to slow climate change down ??(And explain the costs to us as consumers of energy& Consumption of every day stuff )maybe ??break down the political issues of climate change:Just ideas 💡 keep up the good work guys

[@andrewfielding2160]

Why does no one care about the climate anymore? Did they ever really care? It’s just a political football which is used to win a few votes here and there, No government is serious about the issue because of the costs involved. Plus, many "normal" people have bigger concerns and issues effecting their lives like jobs, Wages, Immigration, Housing, Roads, Rail, Cost of bills each month to name just a few. If politicians got out into the real world and spoke to people they would understand the country better but alas they won’t because most politicians today don't like hearing the truth and that is on all sides.

[@davidpearn5925]

The hard right delivered Britain from Gordon Brown to Liz Truss. Substance to trivia - with a sousant of Brexit thrown in.

[@SammyC27]

Rory seems to not be aware of the incredible racism in Australia

[@greebj]

Because unless you go to isolated parts of the country, or listen to the noisy lefties who gaslight on every single issue where legitimate concerns such as housing affordability leads to "racist" negative opinion of excessive migration, or a muddled and very poorly run 'yes' campaign for the "racist" 'no' vote in the Voice referendum. I will add that we are becoming a nation of ungrateful whingers, because while I broadly agree with Rory about what out country is doing right, negative sentiment here is growing to the point we are soon probably going to again vote in a corrupt Coalition federal government with a moron for a PM, as we did in 2013, for no better reason than we're not happy with the current Labor mob, and that the Coalition morons will absolutely and undoubtedly do a worse job at everything we are unhappy about, and continue the disgusting themes that could have us doing even better such as reducing property developer, construction, and mining & resources industry capture of politicians at all levels of politics that results in the plundering of our national resources for barely any benefit to the nation.

[@williampatton7476]

It's not that bad.

[@joesoy9185]

...or the high rents and house prices in the major cities.

[@ctrl-shift-run8681]

I don't think there's a need to be so defeatist about the climate. If enough people make some sensible changes, that they'd hardly notice anyway, we can make a big dent and reduce greenhouse gas emissions significantly.

[@johnfenn3188]

If God had intended us to eat raw fish he wouldn’t have given us Induction Hobs!

[@joesoy9185]

Was Alastair about to say that Notre-Dame was better/more impressive than St Paul's in London before the passage was deleted ? UTB !

[@SW-lw6mt]

The problem with climate is so dense and complex that it's very difficult for the average person to comprehend. Scientists having been ringing alarm bells for so long that there's fatigue surrounding the issue, we need to highlight solutions, things that ordinary people can do.

[@joannemead6609]

The things popping up on the screen are a distraction to the very intelligent conversation.

[@robinbennett3531]

sounds like you should try the podcast; no distracting visuals!

[@sandymilne224]

The concept of climate change is of course much lower because people realize that carbon ISN’T what the alarmists say it is. Pollution is the main issue and everyone knows needs to be addressed over time. Nobody can change climate, and carbon dioxide is good for the planet, not bad for the planet. Also, bankrupting the world and families in the name of a mission is childish.

[@jesseparker8878]

You're spouting propaganda erther you realise or not. well done.

[@sandymilne224]

@ : Truth is hard to accept, I know, but for years now people wake up and see the weather where they live is not much different than it was a decade ago. We all remember that the Greta’s and Al’s of this world tried to sell us a “The sky is falling” ideology, when in fact, they are leading the world into fascism, tyranny, societal collapse and moral bankruptcy. Nobody wants to be stepping over troughs of toxic chemicals, drink polluted water or have coal soot cover their back yard garden, but the climate zealots are not taking about that. They talk about changing the weather, they talk about carbon, when to this day, they fill the middle of a battery with either a carbon core, lead, light plastic materials made from oil. Concern for polluting the environment is a lot different than telling everyone we shouldn’t fly in planes because they burn petroleum products. Industry can create “Carbon capture technologies” that can adequately deal with your beef. It’s not governments that will solve the issue with threats, it’s industry that can solve the issues when the market asks for a solution. So stop being an impediment to the solution and start being positive about the world. One major volcanic eruption puts more pollutants into the atmosphere than 10 years of carbon monoxide from cars. It wasn’t the end of mankind. We adapt and keep being concerned about pollution, not tell people we can stop it from raining in London.

[@fburton8]

I understand housing affordability is a problem in Australia… so not all roses.

[@greebj]

our government has sat on its hands while property speculation and the resulting addiction to economic growth by growth in household indebtedness has become a problem so big and pervasive they literally cannot even begin to politically contemplate rescinding property tax breaks that underpin it like negative gearing. The longer it is delayed, the more catastrophic the crash will be

[@pabloj.gonzalez1813]

From Spain’s 2000s to our fellow Aussies, please do not get trap on mortgage debt or greedy unsustainable real estate business,… it will likely come to you when you least expect it.

[@trevorcarpenter6678]

The problem is targets. All climate targets were unachievable so "why bother". Evidence based persuasion will be much more successful.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

Berlin Cathedral was still in ruins in the 90s.

[@quantummotion]

It's very hard for people to care about the climate when carbon taxes are levied to make liquid fuels more expensive, but at the same time, the electricity supply has not been expanded to make electricity cheaper. It's hard to take the switch to electric vehicles seriously, when 3/4 of a battery factory consists of natural gas burners to dry the solvents to make the batteries which in turn, makes EVs have more carbon emissions out of the gate at purchase, than ice vehicles. It's hard to take politicians seriously about climate change, when no one is talking about ocean pollution, as phytoplankton and coral reefs absorb more carbon than the world's terrestrial forests. It's difficult to get behind climate change policies, when there is no effective battle plan to replace all of the petrochemical products from thread to fertilizer. The current climate change measures have been the most effective form of advertising against those measures. Indeed, much of the conspiracy theories saying that climate change is a hoax, because governments around the world have done nothing in regards to MITIGATION. What I keep telling the deniers is that our governments are simply too incompetent to be that good to pull off a hoax. It's incompetence that explains both the shoddy implementation and lack of action in certain key areas.

[@neildepoy7329]

After 60 years of climate change rhetoric and nothing happening makes one skeptical.

[@neilneil9089]

You're impressed by a clean Swiss lake but call the one responsible for cleaning up the East River a kook?

[@FRM101]

It's not incumbency. It's whomever is weak on immigration and borders.

[@PMMagro]

We can travel the globe in a few days now. Communicate worldwide almost anywhere (certainly from most places in the UK). Migration increases with ease of travelling and communicatiing globally increasing. It is just not happening people migrate less with growing total population and easier travelling. The question is only how to handle migration.

[@MP-mr8rj]

@@PMMagro Travel for say holiday or business is very different than letting the worst of one society and culture just randomly move to another country? What on earth are you talking about?

[@dmizzle73]

Its populists blaming immigration for economic problems.

[@andybrice2711]

​@@PMMagro Well yes. But we are still able to decide how many visas we issue, and to whom. It's simply absurd to issue visas faster than we can build homes. And to issue so many visas to dependents, and to people with no essential skills. And with asylum, it's absurd to prioritize people who arrive from France rather than people who are trapped in war-zones.

[@rorykeegan1895]

Chaps .... Enough with the Fuse rubbish, or at least dump it to the rear end of your pod.

[@jim-es8qk]

...because i prefer not to bankrupt myself.

[@kenpach1]

Australia doing well, socially, economically. The rest of the West doing bad. Look at the difference in immigration policies…

[@nicholaswilliamobrien2451]

Hey guys. Love your work. Can I make a suggestion that you do an episode with the team from POD SAVE AMERICA? It would be really good!!!!!💯🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@paullambert8183]

Why is Rory so focused on trump and not the complete and utter shambles of the democrat party. Listening to Rory still whine on is so pathetic, you are both deluded.

[@blakeelliott408]

Rory loves Australia but won't confront the real reasons why, low population and lots of resources and less reliant on state invention and taxation.

[@Absuk007]

25:25 just when I was starting to move on from every time Rory was wrong ...... Rory drops another bombshell........ he couldn't be more wrong about Australia.

[@englishtime5327]

Because, Ukraine, Gaza, Iran, Donald Trump, Putin, Keir Starmer are more newsworthy at the moment.

[@KenEugen]

The UK produces at most 1-2% of total global CO2 emissions. The fact that most British politicians don't realise this is pretty hilarious...

[@fburton8]

So, what is the percent cutoff below which countries are justified in doing nothing?

[@MasterIdiom]

It doesn't count if we just pay china to do our emitting for us. Any measure of our emissions must include offshored emissions

[@firstclassmaleuk]

Where was the device you are posting on made? Also the UK 1-2 percent emissions rise when it is per head of population.

[@Alistair-q4m]

why do you think it is hilarious? whats your point?

[@peterweston1356]

There is an answer but it’s not to be founds in partisan politics or economics. Imo most thoughtful folk know where the mission to develop a better relationship with nature starts and ends.

[@jpgpearson]

denying sandwiches are food....sounds like she is over trying to distance herself from her working class roots.

[@danmayberry1185]

She is a walking façade.

[@JohnJohnson-mt9yt]

‘On time in budget never heard of anywhere’ says arch-neoliberal Rory, as usual forgetting China exists

[@ruthmeb]

Barbican was built on a bombsite of flattened Victorian jerry building. Nothing of any value was lost. Fyi.

[@Manmadepack]

talk to gary stevenson

[@declanwalsh3216]

Hypocrisy. They fly all over the world and probably have huge houses or multiple homes

[@danmayberry1185]

Apologies to Rory - I wanted him to rejoin the fray when Tory leadership collapsed (on several occasions). He is morally and intellectually above it.

[@BanjoLuke1]

This is an excellent channel, but the endless waffle about Fuse and merchandise is tedious and slightly grinding.

[@woodoven]

Don’t pay any mind to the trolls Rory, don’t pay any mind at all.

[@mikestruthers9788]

Absolutely love the podcast, it's been a hell of a year and much appreciated your walking us through it all. My question - aside from the maniacal Trump machine and all the impacts that will generate globally, what are the other issues or events that you think will grab the attention or headlines in 2025? Sometimes I feel like apologising to my daughter - sorry love, we messed up..... Have a great one!

[@simony2801]

These two lecturing us all on climate change spend more time on aeroplanes than anyone, all I want to do and expect to do is be free to drive my car to my work everyday in winter.

[@MP-mr8rj]

It’s absolutely ridiculous I honestly laugh out loud when these 2 start talking about climate change!

[@kicorse]

Fair point. They are absolutely right about the importance of tackling climate change, but they don't act as if they believe it themselves. Individual carbon emissions are driven much more by personal wealth than professed views on the issue, unfortunately.

[@msdes82]

of course it's not their air miles they want to limit, it was absolutely vital they both jetted off to America for the recent election there and clearly it was vital Rory went to Afghanistan and Australia this year.

[@MP-mr8rj]

@ it’s absurd 😂 The lack of self awareness is staggering!

[@Mmabutcher]

I think the youth of today realise its too late and them recycling tin cans when trump is drill drill drill, seems a bit pointless.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

The us should have dealt with Israel by stopping funding.

[@fionaewen6231]

Not convinced Iran is a paper tiger.

[@Gumberculesus]

Because two incompetent generations weilding political power did things like the Iraq war and an immigration crisis and now we have too many other issues to deal with. Insane how bad you two were at your jobs.

[@Lululululee]

Except Mexico....the world is not 20 countries.

[@neilneil9089]

Lol, what minor event happened 4 years ago, and how did governments react? Freedom baby!

[@andybrice2711]

Yes. That seriously damaged my faith in the scientific establishment, and made me somewhat more skeptical of the prevailing view on climatology.

[@Sjb-on5xt]

I will never forget or forgive. Payback is a b***h for all those that took our freedoms.

[@jamj59]

If every mainstream person is saying the same thing - it’s probably wrong. Just like the 2022 flu

[@paulharrison5977]

People's main political interest seems to be immigrants but with climate change , we have just started the immigration deluge , when many countries will be made inhabitable . Rory , I do admire you but eating tuna is not at all sustainable , the levels in the sea are plummeting , 96% down in 2013 from pre industrial fishing in a report my film of the year rather be ashes than dust about Hong Kong and the post office

[@deragoth4250]

Hearing about the Chinese porcelain display at the museum I would hope they are on loan from China and/or private collectors as opposed to being stolen/looted goods.

[@johnwalsh4197]

This podcast is a perfect example of an echo chamber