Why Does NOBODY WANT TOM PIDCOCK? Cycling Transfers 2025

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@rulifaller8474 Ай бұрын

Because he wants to do whatever he wants on whatever bike he wants, and he wants a lot of money for it. But he is just not good enough on the road to justify all that, and the road is what brings in the money. Additionally, him and his coach appear to rate him at the same level as MVDP and WVA, with no evidence to back that up.

@snjiraini Ай бұрын

The comparison is based on his skill set. Cyclocross, mountain bike and one day races. Ineos need to stop turning him into something he is not. Nobody becomes great by focusing on their weaknesses. He needs a team that lets him focus on his strengths. Pinarello even designed their first mountain bike for him, and he won. Focus on MTB and be a legend like Nino, otherwise be a mediocre world tour rider.

@fanda6122 Ай бұрын

@@snjiraini he is a liege/stage hunter type rider capable of winning monuments semi classics and gt stages maybe become the real champion du monde the gc ship has sailed and he should hang up the mtb he is definitely not mediocre just needs to recalibrate he will be 26 this coming year

@mickrogers2572 Ай бұрын

The sooner ineos and Pidcock realise that he's not a GC rider but a classics rider the better , with the new management if what you read is correct 😂 each rider is being allocated various races/ duties hopefully Pidcock will be given the classics duties

@skorpion3993 Ай бұрын

I’ll tell you why, it’s because Tom Pidcock doesn’t do anything for any team, he only does stuff for himself and as a road rider and that’s the last thing a team manager wants. He’s incredibly talented but he can’t TT well and is lacking the final 5% that GC contenders have in climbs, and whilst a good one day racer he still falls short in that department to the likes of MVDP, WVA, Pogacar, Evenepoel and Pedersen. Not only that he’s one of the highest paid riders in the peloton and known to be difficult to manage, apparently wanting to call a lot of the shots at INEOS and his refusal to ride for other teammates most of the time. When you factor in all of these things together it’s much easier to see why most teams wouldn’t want him, alongside him wanting to ride in 3 different cycling disciplines throughout the year. This all being said I do believe Redbull BORA Hansgrohe would be the best fit for him as he’d pretty much be their go to one day and stage racer. I also believe with a lot of their team leaving, Decathlon AG2R could be a potential move.

@MikeAG333 Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that. It obviously says far more about you than it does about Pidcock. It shows that you are the sort of person who thinks they can judge people's motivations despite having no direct contact or knowledge.

@skorpion3993 Ай бұрын

@@MikeAG333 What I said is exactly the same things a lot of other people with and without connections are saying which are either facts made known about and what I’ve seen and heard. I could very easily be proven wrong in what I’m saying, same as we all do.

@swissbiggy Ай бұрын

I can only agree wholeheartedly. Tom Pidcock earns over three and a half million pounds a year and he doesn't perform enough to justify such a salary. Too much time is spent on his hobby of mountain biking, which means that despite his talent he has now been overtaken by riders who focus entirely on what they are paid for. Winning a Grand Tour, or even getting a podium in it, is not within his capabilities because he is really far short of riders such as Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Evenepoel etc., etc., etc. (and even his own teammates Rodriguez and Arensman) in both the time trial and as a pure climber .... This is of course no disgrace, but then you have to make your high salary come true in another way... For Pidcock this would mean that he would have to focus entirely on the classics, which would mean that he would no longer have the freedom to waste time on mountain biking.... I understand that he thinks mountain biking is great, after all it is also a great sport... But just like cyclo-cross, mountain biking is a marginal sport, a sport that hardly gets any attention worldwide.... That is why he cannot expect any employer to be prepared to pay him the same as Ineos does. After all, an employer doesn't pay you millions a year to do your hobby, but to win road races.... Tom is not prepared to give this up, and there you have the answer as to why few other teams have any interest in Tom Pidcock.... After all, there are many other riders who can do exactly the same as Tom Pidcock, and they are cheaper and are available the entire season...

@ricardorusso1462 Ай бұрын

@@MikeAG333only thing your comment says is that you’re a Tom Pidcok shill and that you are ready to justify all the controversy and drama that this rider has created around him in exchange for a road palmares that is only average at best and woefully insufficient for a rider with his salary. The guy has 5 professional road wins, enough said.

@MikeAG333 Ай бұрын

@@skorpion3993 Clearly you can't tell the difference between facts and opinions. That's not surprising, as your English is so poor that I have to believe it isn't your first language. You can't therefore be expected to know the meanings of words.

@jfg2000utube Ай бұрын

My opinion of Pidcock changed a lot after I watched the Netflix series, dunno if that's how they wanted to portray him, but it did seem like a very difficult character, that sometimes would not follow team orders or ride for others. He probably wants to go to a team where he can be the outright leader, everyone working for him, still for all that cash he earns now. A lot of teams will see that as a problem... bringing in someone that will upset the ranks, and maybe still not win much... very risky. Plus, as I write this, it's been confirmed by Ineos that he's leaving...

@arnoldhau1 Ай бұрын

I think Redbull Bora Hansgrohe would be the best choice, but the question is if he should actually even focus on beeing a grand tour racer or rather on classics which seems more fitting. Perhaps he is a bit more MvdP than Pogacar or Vingegaard?

@jamesporter5630 Ай бұрын

"I can do that." Yeah, Tom you probably can but you can't do ALL OF THAT. At some point you have to decide what kind of racer you want to be and focus on that discipline. The rider that's beating Tom Pidcock in July is Tom Pidcock in December.

@francisyuweh706 Ай бұрын

nice to see u back guys! hope for ineos to bounce back

@stickmenkissarmy6907 Ай бұрын

Pidcock is a very good racer , i think you would make a one day classic racer, much better than GC he just doesn't seem to have the mental stamina. To work with the press In the character, it takes, you need a total package for that, and he just doesn't have it.. If you look at all the greats they all have one thing in common. They were all great with the press, and all were great leaders with their team. And they could overcome anything. He does not have any of that.

@ewanwelsh4339 Ай бұрын

Pro cycling is a business. And sponsors want value for money. Sadly Pidcock as a brand, has been devalued,over the past 12 months. The price of a asset is .“ The present price of future value “ Pidcock will, bring wins . But at what cost? That’s what sponsors will be looking at. Coupled with a over inflated price, compared to his contemporaries who have outperformed him. When is current deal ends his agent will not be able to get anything like as much, even if he preforms.

@nickpilgrim1966 Ай бұрын

He could win the road WC and have that mtb, cross, road triple plus 3-4 monuments. Is that enough for a big road team contract? Cant see a grand tour podium. But if hes focused maybe. Any team will need to sit him down and thrash out some commitments from him.

@andrewc662 Ай бұрын

One thing I noticed on Geraint Thomas' podcast, his name was rarely ever mentioned.

@DeborahH78Deborahh78 Ай бұрын

Tom Pidcock is not a team player and he’s no where near as good as he thinks he is outside MTB. Ego … all about his own, no humbleness in this guy. He’s full of himself in a team environment and no one needs that. He’s definitely not a GC racer, no heart for the tough. He has a natural talent for mtb but doesn’t want to do the hard work for the road. In summary he’s too much hard work….not worth the salary and no one is interested. Respect goes both ways

@Gufolicious Ай бұрын

And who are you?

@Cycleplayer117 Ай бұрын

Wow! Not a single person said any lies in this comment section 😅 just goes to show if we can see it, then of course pro teams can. As a fellow Brit, I just want to see a tour win 🏆 not MTB 🤨 I don’t have anything against MBT, just saying

@RobinRandell-e6w Ай бұрын

His win on the Alp showed his credentials. But he needs to focus now on grand tours

@kcvfr400 Ай бұрын

He wants to be part time, in a sport that requires a huge team effort for a season. He needs to pick his version of cycling and stick to it. doesn't help that peoplr have talked him up too much and he has been overpaid the value of his road results because of that. He naturally wants the peleton salary, which is vastly higher than MTB or cross.

@michaelbergfeld8751 Ай бұрын

I think Pidcock is a very good rider, one of the best. But there is indeed a Tom Fitcock problem.

@ejw4300 Ай бұрын

A theory. How can a guy so so strong in one day races and short tours be off the pace in grand tours? He is built perfectly for GT's as well, being slight and strong. A not discussed answer is that maybe he is not micro doping like the others, thus compromising his ability to recover day after day. Note: i understand that the main focus of dopers these days is micro dosing, which accelerates recovery needed for strong GT performance. Micro dosing is almost impossible to get caught doing as the amounts are too small to show up and there are no material changes in blood markers (i.e. topped back up to normal level) If this is true, it would explain why he wants to focus on one day events, e.g. mtb, cross and road classics.

@robbyrogersberg1520 Ай бұрын

He wants GC salary, he thinks he's as good as the top few riders, when he's just a 1 day racer

@_powerrranger Ай бұрын

That isn't as good as Mvdp

@ChrisSpriggs-rj2ys Ай бұрын

Fantastic rider but he needs to graft out a solid grand tour result

@robbyrogersberg1520 Ай бұрын

What other teams are going to put up with how he's going about things at Ineos?, he obviously considers himself more talented than he really is

@johnmcdonald736 Ай бұрын

An extremely expensive contract for a rider who doesn't win anything.... Can't think why teams wouldn't want him

@mattfearuk Ай бұрын

yeah he doesnt win at all does he, he didn't win strade bianchi, amstel gold (twice tbh) or Brabantse Pijl or the world mtb, cyclo cross and olympic mtb twice, not to mention youngest rider to win on alpe duez lol

@johnmcdonald736 Ай бұрын

@ half the things you just listed aren’t road races. So Strade and Amstel in the last 2 years? Wow, well worth a top 10 contract in cycling

@mattfearuk Ай бұрын

@@johnmcdonald736 he admits his road performances haven't been up to scratch, very likely as a result of not focusing on road 100%. He's stated directly that will be changing, I hope and expect the next couple of road seasons will see some bigger and better results. For some reason people seem to be personally offended by his salary and attitude, I imagine in no small part because of the overly dramatic largely bullshit netflix series.

@johnmcdonald736 Ай бұрын

@@mattfearuk That he’s massively overpaid is not his fault at all. Him and his agency have done amazing to get the contract they did. The fault there is squarely on the Ineos management. But the question is, why don’t other teams want him…. Well the answer is that because he’s paid like someone who will consistently podium grand tours, whereas in reality he’s won 3 races the last 2 years

@mattfearuk Ай бұрын

@@johnmcdonald736 who gives a shit if he's 'overpaid', I don't. He will eventually prove how good he is, not every rider progresses at the same rate, G didn't win his first tdf until he was 32, Pidcock is currently 25, has plenty of time to podium a grand tour imo and if he doesn't his salary will eventually nosedive, end of.

@manfrommontreal Ай бұрын

Pidcock wants his whole entourage with him, that's why Visma LAB turned him down.

@StrangeJoe Ай бұрын

The biggest mistake of Visma ever

@Desmond17 Ай бұрын

I really hope he moves. Ineos are in deep need of a reboot and Pidcock is in deep need of a reality check. Sure he's good, but he's nowhere near as good as his ego thinks he is. Plus, on every single interview, he seems to come out as entitled and bothered to even answer questions. Take a page out of Pogi book, be more likeable. Or at least, stop acting like everything should be handed to you...

@dennismwallentin296 Ай бұрын

Ask Steve Cummings what makes him dislike TP.

@VancouverHeartHealth Ай бұрын

I am not a poker player, but pidcock seems a suited ace 5.

@kayhayes5114 Ай бұрын

How do you know it’s the off season ? Nothing else to talk about but shite 🤣🤣🤣

@autorelight Ай бұрын

Funny..... they just announced the split. Seems like there's plenty to talk about.

@daveansell2418 Ай бұрын

Have you guys spoken to him?

@adrianhibberd9342 Ай бұрын

I want him to start another year

@DeborahH78Deborahh78 Ай бұрын

Finally it’s done…. 🎉🎉🎉. Now everyone can move on. He’s just not a road cyclist.

@89volvowithlazers 27 күн бұрын

Pidcock is the epitomy of biking as a solo endeavor tom just dont get team nevr did not in his style. Q36 signed a name not a difference maker. He dont win on the road he dont work for the team

@handsfeellikegloves Ай бұрын

I wonder how much better the rest of the Ineos team will do when they rid themselves of Pidcock. Bad vibes are not good for performances of other riders.

@philipsimmonds1103 Ай бұрын

No 'I' in Team..

@89volvowithlazers 27 күн бұрын

Ineos is confused and need to rebuild and they should have loved Carapas more

@89volvowithlazers 27 күн бұрын

Bora preaches team explains why they are not in sync, he dont fit teams

@NielsDeBoeck Ай бұрын

INEOS Grenadiers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@The_Lox Ай бұрын

He doesn’t drink beer or coffee.

@DeborahH78Deborahh78 Ай бұрын

@DDai-qd8uk Ай бұрын

I heard he has his own non-ineos support staff that he has and brings along that's exclusively for him creating a little pidcock island inside of ineos. And fair enough, I don't blame him.

@pornthipmitchell5410 Ай бұрын

All these nobodies discussing someone they’ve never met, get a life and try and achieve something yourselves

@TheLuxardens Ай бұрын

By your comment, you show you know sweet fa about pro cycling 👍

@robertallardice8119 Ай бұрын

@@DDai-qd8uk I don’t understand why Ineos would allow that!

@DDai-qd8uk Ай бұрын

@@robertallardice8119that rings true for a lot of ineos' operations

@19EightySixINC Ай бұрын

its because he has a terrible attitude. he's a great rider but sometimes i think he thinks he's Pogacar or at Pogacar level and he's just not. you're good but you're not the best when it comes to road racing

@onge1981 Ай бұрын

Easy...coz he won't commit to the Road bike. He won't be able to give up the MTB

@StopTheRot Ай бұрын

Because the Pid part of his name is unnecessary.

@martinobyrne9129 Ай бұрын

Pidcock is super talented, but unfortunately talent only takes you so far. He also thinks he’s better than he is.

@johnevans6399 Ай бұрын

Maybe he needs to grow up and stop playing with 1 hour kiddy stuff. Basically Pogi has done for him.

@petembb Ай бұрын

TP wont win any grand tour, and likely not to win WC. He doesnt ride for a team and others, and no one is gonna step up to help him when it matters. National teams are not payed so the GB riders are not gonna go all out for him. He lacks diciplin, endurance and fankly talent for the GC. If you strip away his MTB titles he really doesnt have much to show for it, compared to the other riders that crossed over. He is behind MVDP and VWA in every statistics that matters.