Why Does SAMP/T Missile System Better Than Patriot Missile?

[@marcobiava8363]

Correction. Samp/T is a system developed by Italy and France.

[@didierpaya9069]

Il est bon de le souligner !

[@nils1539]

Yep, French radars, Italian missiles and the rest is a cooperation

[@ericknkili]

Correction: The Aster 30 missile doesn't have a range of 186 Miles. It's official range is around 120 Km and 150 KM for the Aster 30 Block I NT.

[@donkeymarco]

Aster offical range is "in excess of 120km" in some datasheet or "In excess of 100 km" in other ones, real range it is not a public data. Maximum speed: Mach 4.5 and altitude 20 km. That is what can be found in MBDA or Eurosam websites.

[@lexzie9568]

Pac3 cri can be loaded up to 16 (40miles speed around Mach 4 PAC 3 mse can be loaded up to 12(75miles speed mach 4.7) (My explanation will be based on aster 30 alone might be too lengthy to go deep) While the old PAC 2 is loaded 4 max(99miles speed mach 2.5) Aster 30 (range around 150kilometer speed mach 4.5 in few seconds) Sampt has 5 launcher and 8 missiles per launcher max While patriots has 5 to 8 launcher total of over 100 PAC 3 cri Please get your information from reliable sources

[@FXGreggan.]

Sweden should have bought SAMP/T instead of the Patriot, it's a shame..

[@thebobcat1964]

Your a fool, I'm not buying a system that's never been tested in combat only in theory.

[@rikardnorlen752]

I was also for the SAMP/T but its quite comparable systems even though difficult to compare :) Sweden have the GEM-T and PAC-3 MSE so its a good system. But should have got PAAC-4 to save some money! Also would be better with 360 radar. Guess it will do!

[@RR-us2kp]

​@@thebobcat1964 tested in combat? How many nuclear weapons have been tested in combat? And yet UK, France, Russia and China operate them. Even the US modern nukes have never been used in combat. People are still paying for them

[@thebobcat1964]

The Patriot is a air defense system not a nuclear system and it's been tested in combat.

[@RR-us2kp]

@@thebobcat1964 wow you're as dumb as they get right? Let's try another one then. How many F22s have been tested in combat? Apart from against balloons?

[@يوسفالرويلي-ي5م]

I hope you will make a comparison between David's Sling and the s-400

[@spidertube79]

The Samp-T was developed by France and Italy, not only France.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

You are way off on several point, like number of missile per launcher. It depends on the missiles that are on the launcher, this varies from 4 to 16. The Aster 30 is impressive, do you know the cost? BTW, Patriot has the choice of 3 radar types like phased-array. Also the number of engagements per command post is higher than 8 Patriot. You seem to be using old specs. BUT I love the variation and effectiveness of the SAMP/T! Great collaboration between France and Italy!

[@sailor67duilio27]

Eurosam is working on an Aster Block 2 missile designed to fly nearly four times as high at over 230,000 feet. This new hit-to-kill exo-atmospheric interceptor would be capable of smacking down hypersonic missiles and ballistic missiles traveling at seven times the speed of sound. The Block 2 would amount to a European version of THAAD, except with 360 degree instead of 120 degrees coverage. Notably, Block 2 is described as capable of intercepting “3000-kilometer range missiles,” which lies at the definitional intersection of a “medium-range” and “intermediate-range” ballistic missile. Notably, the collapse of the INF treaty has lifted the ban on Russian deployment of such weapons.

[@PpAirO5]

Sounds great. European and Scandinavian countries should support and buy more from each other, than bow for the U.S. We can do just as good, and/or even better.

[@sailor67duilio27]

@@PpAirO5 I profoundly agree to that. We need to survive Trump and Putin's lover boys in Europe. We also need to decide if we want a federation of states or a confederation. We are Europeans and we love our sovereignty and independence. This does not mean that we cannot make pragmatic and speedy decisions. To do this we need to lighten up the burden that we have loaded ourselves with. All these decisions need to be made quickly.

[@PpAirO5]

@@sailor67duilio27 .. Sounds about right. We shouldn't make ourselves dependable on The U.S., China or Russia (but still have relations, trade and such but in a lesser capacity) We should bet on several horses (our own herd) instead of going "all in" on 1-2 major horses.

[@JosephLeeWilkins]

What’s the reload difference buddy plus how far can they go on one tank of fuel 👍🫵🫶

[@waleedali9393]

By the way military tv thank you so much for this report and video you just returned to me personally some gorgeous memories 1998 exactly idex matra defence company which was french before it became the Italian mbda and also European Aeronautic Defence and Space EADS before it became Airbus defence

[@leosimon241]

MBDA is not italian, it has more French employees than any other countries and its siege is in France, as well as its CEO beeing French.

[@keng293]

@@leosimon241 There is "mbda france, ""mbda uk", "mbda italy" etc...

[@leosimon241]

@@keng293yeah I know but the guy previously daid that Matra Missiles became Italian which is totally false, it remained French

[@keng293]

@@leosimon241 I fully agree with you, that's what i meant : )

[@flyblu80]

there would be discussion. in the meantime, a cost analysis needs to be done. Now both systems have a big problem to cover 360 degrees you need more batteries I think. Which for example the s300s cover with 1 battery. All Soviet and Russian equipment is to be verified as real and undeclared accuracy, reliability and effectiveness, I am also referring to the s400s. Now I don't think that in the West they are not capable of making worse radars than the Soviet/Russian ones. In terms of missiles, the Franco-Italian system is very expensive. The advantage is that it seems that an architecture has been created that can be improved and updated, therefore developable over time, and it all depends on the funds of these two nations and the society mbda. if on average when we talk about a US product, we say that the budget is not a primary aspect, when we talk about European countries I would say yes.

[@bertnl530]

Another aspect overseen is the operators required to man a battery. I don't know the real figures, but all defense organisations have big trouble finding personal. Currently many organisations have more systems then they can exploit. And it doesn't matter what. Infantry, engineers, medics and also people who like to work on air defense systems. You need more crewmembers per system due to the fact that in wartime it needs to work 24/7. Operators need to be paid as long as the system will be in service. Most of the time that is 30 to 40 years or longer (with midlife updates) Then becomes manpower very important. One can buy billions of material, but if one can not find motivated and suited people to operate it, it is thrown away money. And more important, when it is really needed, it is the question if you have people to run the things on a 24/7 base.

[@talassaXXI]

What is the time of recharging?

[@ThanatosUA]

Conflict? This is war, 250000+ dead soldiers from both sides, this not "conflict"

[@rotarualexandrugh]

Some sourses are stating that the real number is about 1 million casualties from both sides. That is, the number of dead is much more

[@razanorjp2137]

The best YES because it's a last generation, French navy have used it in real condition and it was better than expected but cost is €€€€€€€€€€€

[@alphawane4877]

The ASTR system is the best in the world and we will know that with time. It is an excellent and super-fast desig

[@nodarzaldastanishvili8910]

SUPER.. ❤

[@damirmasic2666]

Možda bi trebali taipana isto .

[@heathwilliams9754]

It's amazing how outdated all of this information is. 90 people to operate? A Patriot battery isn't even authorized that many. And that includes all the supply, admin, maintenance, and command personnel. Patriot can only hold 4 missiles per launcher? That hasn't been the case for about 20 years now! The PAC3 interceptor enabled each launcher to hold 16. The PAC3-MSE is an even more capable interceptor, for which a single launcher can hold a combination of PAC3 and PAC3-MSE interceptors. This channel is way outdated on information! At this point, you should probably be comparing the SAMP-T to THAAD. Even THAAD has been around for more than a decade and I guarantee it's far more capable than SAMP-T. And it's proven in real world engagements.

[@lexzie9568]

this guy is just looking for viewers😤 completely wrong

[@lexzie9568]

This source is not too correct as aster 30 is a hit to kill missile with a lethality enhancer (15kg /30pounds warhead)just as the patriots

[@richie7425]

The patriot is likley better since the kenetic interception is much better against certain types of targets. thta was found during the gulf war. there all tradeoffs.

[@lexzie9568]

Aster30 has a range of around 120 miles this is wrong

[@rodgerbane3825]

You need someone to help with writing your headlines. The title of the video is incoherent. I take it English isn't the first language of whoever writes the headlines.

[@waleedali9393]

Qatar Egypt and us in Jordan 🇯🇴 and most of the Arabic and islamic countries using it

[@russdavis71]

Patriot is an awful system. I’ve talked to engineers who worked on its development and it’s got a horrible track record.

[@misonipeter4377]

It has a better kill ratio on air breathable vehicle

[@fqeagles21]

Maybe the PAC2 the new PAC-3 Is very good

[@divyanshverma2296]

@@fqeagles21 i dont think so. developmental trials of pac 3 showed horrible results.

[@fqeagles21]

@@divyanshverma2296 It was the opposite TBH, i'm talking about the PAC-3 With Hit to Kill missiles

[@lexzie9568]

Your judgement is based on PAC 2 The patriots now uses a newly built pac3mse and PAC 3cri with around 70miles and 40 miles respectively and new radars plus When the pac3 was used in Iraq wars it was actually an anti aircraft weapon modified to hit ballistic missile so these new ones are several times better than you think

[@watcher5729]

Smart seekers.way cheaper

[@leedex]

This video is like a S-400 review. A system that has never been battle tested, but superior according to the developers 😂

[@sailor67duilio27]

Well SAMPT is being battle tested right now. So hold your horses

[@Ezekiel903]

Ukraine has tested both, the patriot and Italian delivered Aster30, so it is battle tested, and not only in Ukraine, Ukraine want now more Aster30

[@shunichikinoe5081]

unfortunately just like the US France need Israel' approval which country are allowed to purchase these hardware

[@remistiegler5302]

What ? The SAMP-T has nothing to do with Israel, it is an industrial collaboration between France and Italy, the Aster 30 missiles being produced by the French-English company MBDA. Don't spread false statements

[@ecrins70]

Bullshit, France is not an Israeli dog like they US. Grow up

[@razanorjp2137]

But Patriot seems to be sufficient to stop the best hypersonic missiles, Aster is for stop ALIEN missiles

[@raidensergi2378]

The patriot systems that can do this Minimum has to be pac3+

[@raidensergi2378]

Patriot systems must be pac3+ to have possibilities to intercept them. In Europe majority of them has Pac2 or Pac2 +. Thats the problem.

[@williamslauren8933]

Patriot batteries in my eyes still remain superior to it's Europe counterparts and the trust they've got for it is why it's they first deployed none soviet air defence systems to play in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@tomc5803]

Somebody needs to learn how to talk!!!

[@bothornberg255]

Success in any combat?? French/Italian weapon systems ... blabla bla bla .. were are they? In Ukraine? NoNo just blA BLA BLA

[@pascalplantagenet4802]

and you know nothing about it and you say blah blah blah

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

Yea, but it's not a real-world battle tested like the patriot

[@xenomorphelv4265]

France has nuclear warheads that have not been battle tested, would you still think it's not dangerous ? The fact aster30 has not been battle tested doesn't mean the system isn't working, it just means France didn't have to use it...yet.

[@RR-us2kp]

​@@xenomorphelv4265 my point exactly

[@ad_astra468]

Well it's in Ukraine now, I am sure the UA will be happy to give data on how it fares on the battlefield to its supporters.

[@Erickpicapiedra]

They want to learn from real battle

[@lexzie9568]

Completely wrong 😤😤

[@ecrins70]

Yep the older patriot system has it's boss